mitnick-digest Thursday, October 1 1998 Volume 01 : Number 170 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 04:56:39 EDT From: Sacrosantx@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] Finacial support Kevin The URL is a great idea. If we have a banner every penny does count. I'll go for that. I don't know what others oppinions are on it though. Shall we have the money sent directly to the KM collection, or shall I collect money then send? Also on the thing with Washington court protest..Is it possible to bring a live conference hooked up laptop maybe? Then we could have direct communication as LuvShark thought of.. Umm I guess thats kinda what LuvShark thought of maybe I'm loosing it here. Oh well both are good ideas in my oppinion. Sacrosant "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our mind." - - Bob Marley ____________________________________ "Do not fear us, we are only watching you." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:36:13 -0400 From: che guevara Subject: [mitnick] return-address stickers my dad got one of those neat return-address stickers today. he gets a bunch. it has like 12 on each side and in the middle it has tiny stickers. is there anyway someone could make free kevin ones and then send them out free first, with the stickers, then ask for a donation and they can make a donation and get more - -- - --++ che guevara ++-- - --++ cguevara@mindless.com ++-- - --++ http://cguevara.home.ml.org/ ++-- - --++ AOL IM Name: chejuana ++-- - --++ ICQ: 13619412 ++-- - --++ irc: cguevara (efnet) ++-- _________________________ - --++ HELP FREE KEVIN MITNICK ++-- - --++ http://www.kevinmitnick.com ++-- _________________________ - --++ "The important thing is never to stop questioning." ++-- - --++ -Albert Einstein ++-- _________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 04:20:22 -0700 From: "Luvshark" Subject: RE: [mitnick] Finacial support Kevin > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mitnick@2600.com [mailto:owner-mitnick@2600.com]On Behalf Of > Sacrosantx@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 1998 1:57 AM > To: mitnick@2600.com > Subject: Re: [mitnick] Finacial support Kevin > > > The URL is a great idea. If we have a banner every penny does > count. I'll > go for that. I don't know what others oppinions are on it > though. Shall we > have the money sent directly to the KM collection, or shall I > collect money > then send? > > Also on the thing with Washington court protest..Is it possible to bring a > live conference hooked up laptop maybe? Then we could have direct > communication as LuvShark thought of.. Umm I guess thats kinda > what LuvShark > thought of maybe I'm loosing it here. Oh well both are good ideas in my > oppinion. > > > Sacrosant > > "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our > mind." > - Bob Marley > > ____________________________________ > "Do not fear us, we are only watching you." > Well I do have a very competent laptop and a cellular modem , we could Use IRC ...I am very open to suggestions I have a freind with some digital camera gear , I can see what he can come up with. I would welcome any suggestions. I have never staged a protest. Where can I learn the legalities of Peaceful protest?? Anyone in our around Washington State please contact me if you wish to help. luvshark http://home1.gte.net/vthing/index.htm One Death is a tragedy , a million deaths is a statistic (Joseph Stalin) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:38:21 -0400 (EDT) From: ksandre Subject: RE: [mitnick] Finacial support Kevin On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Luvshark wrote: > suggestions. I have never staged a protest. Where can I learn the legalities > of Peaceful protest?? Anyone in our around Washington State please contact > me if you wish to help. > You should see if there's a local AFSC [American Friends Service Committee] Organization in your area because they would know all your local ordinances about peaceful protest. If there isn't one, try the AFSC WEB Stie for further information [, I think]. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:09:45 EDT From: JediHamstr@aol.com Subject: [mitnick] Re: Ad information? Hello, I know I haven't written in awhile, and I'm pretty sure that you haven't missed me all that much. Anyway, the following is the response that I received from writing 'Excite' regarding a "FREE KEVIN" ad banner. - -Jedi In a message dated 9/28/98 8:06:31 PM, network.support@excite.com writes: > >Hello there and thanks for writing in. > You can find all of the information you need for advertising on Excite > >by going to http://www.excite.com/Info/advertising.html From here > >you should be able to find what you're looking for. >Feel free to contact us again if you have further questions. Thank you > >for your patience and for choosing Excite. > >Best Regards, > >Josh Romano >Technical Support Engineer >Excite, Inc. > >======================================= >www.excite.com >www.webcrawler.com >www.mckinley.com >======================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:19:54 PDT From: "AnGeL oF DeAtH" Subject: Re: [mitnick] return-address stickers yo yo yo..i think thats a great idea but honestly i do not think it will work. AnGel oF DeATh
ICQ-->8369754 E-Mail-->hells_angels_666@hotmail.com FREE KEVIN >Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:36:13 -0400 >From: che guevara >To: mitnick@2600.com >Subject: [mitnick] return-address stickers >Reply-To: mitnick@2600.com > >my dad got one of those neat return-address stickers today. >he gets a bunch. >it has like 12 on each side and in the middle it has tiny stickers. >is there anyway someone could make free kevin ones and then send them >out free first, with the stickers, then ask for a donation and they can >make a donation and get more >-- >--++ che guevara ++-- >--++ cguevara@mindless.com ++-- >--++ http://cguevara.home.ml.org/ ++-- >--++ AOL IM Name: chejuana ++-- >--++ ICQ: 13619412 ++-- >--++ irc: cguevara (efnet) ++-- >_________________________ >--++ HELP FREE KEVIN MITNICK ++-- >--++ http://www.kevinmitnick.com ++-- >_________________________ >--++ "The important thing is never to stop questioning." ++-- >--++ -Albert Einstein ++-- >_________________________ > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:30:54 -0700 From: The Bri Man Subject: [mitnick] Advertisement in the Paper Hi all, I just got a job today going door-to-door giving a free copy of the paper, and trying to get sell's. And I was thinking of stuff i could do for the Free Kevin campaign, and i got a bright idea!!! I could slip a Free Kevin Flyer in the copies that I hand out, and then when people looked through, they would find a Kevin Flyer? I cant start doing that today, because i have no flyers, but tomorrow or thursday when i et some copies, should i do that? sounds like a good idea, now doesnt it? Ok, well latez all... *BRaiN KaNDy* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:21:23 -0400 From: kerry Subject: Re: [mitnick] Advertisement in the Paper There's a new flyer up on http://www.kevinmitnick.com/flyer in kevfly.zip. If anyone has a little spare time, an html version would be great. I'll get to it, but I don't know how soon, and I want everyone, not just windows people, to be able to use it. At 03:30 PM 9/29/98 -0700, you wrote: >Hi all, I just got a job today going door-to-door giving a free copy of >the paper, and trying to get sell's. > >And I was thinking of stuff i could do for the Free Kevin campaign, and i >got a bright idea!!! > >I could slip a Free Kevin Flyer in the copies that I hand out, and then >when people looked through, they would find a Kevin Flyer? > >I cant start doing that today, because i have no flyers, but tomorrow or >thursday when i et some copies, should i do that? sounds like a good idea, >now doesnt it? > >Ok, well latez all... > > > > *BRaiN KaNDy* > > > > > *********************************************************** FREE KEVIN bumperstickers http://www.mindspring.com/~jump0 *********************************************************** PO Box 17435 - Raleigh NC 27619 - email jump0@mindspring.com checks/money orders payable to "Free Kevin Publicity Fund" *********************************************************** Stickers are sold at cost plus postage - we make no profit from this effort - donations are split equally between Kevin's Defense Fund and the Free Kevin Publicity Fund. *********************************************************** F R E E K E V I N http://www.KevinMitnick.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:30:53 -0400 From: che guevara Subject: Re: [mitnick] Advertisement in the Paper it's a phat idea - -- <--!che guevara--!> [ http://www.kevinmitnick.com ] [ http://cguevara.home.ml.org ] [ irc: cguevara (efnet) ] [ aim: chejuana ] __________________________ "A cat will look down to a man. A dog will look up to a man. But a pig will look you straight in the eye and see his equal." -Sir Winston Churchill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:42:23 -0500 (CDT) From: teo82@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] Advertisement in the Paper Good Idea, but won't they fire you for that? On 09/29/98 15:30:54 you wrote: > >Hi all, I just got a job today going door-to-door giving a free copy of >the paper, and trying to get sell's. > >And I was thinking of stuff i could do for the Free Kevin campaign, and i >got a bright idea!!! > >I could slip a Free Kevin Flyer in the copies that I hand out, and then >when people looked through, they would find a Kevin Flyer? > >I cant start doing that today, because i have no flyers, but tomorrow or >thursday when i et some copies, should i do that? sounds like a good idea, >now doesnt it? > >Ok, well latez all... > > > > *BRaiN KaNDy* > > > > Thomas E. O'Grady A.K.A. Crazed Dante Teo82@ix.netcom.com or Rascal14@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:42:20 EDT From: RiotGrrl02@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] Advertisement in the Paper You might as well, I mean, nobody is going to complain about it to the newspaper, because its only a flyer, so you wont get in "trouble". And besides people need to know about Kevin, so why not get it out in the open? I say go for it. Riot Grrly In a message dated 9/29/1998 4:37:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, brainkandy@mindspring.com writes: << I could slip a Free Kevin Flyer in the copies that I hand out, and then when people looked through, they would find a Kevin Flyer? I cant start doing that today, because i have no flyers, but tomorrow or thursday when i et some copies, should i do that? sounds like a good idea, now doesnt it? >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:57:41 -0500 From: Zach Miller Subject: Re: [mitnick] Advertisement in the Paper careful now...most newspapers are gonna be pretty pissed if they find out about it, especially if anyone complains about the flyers. i got in trouble a while back putting flyers in the papers I delivered. The Bri Man wrote: > Hi all, I just got a job today going door-to-door giving a free copy of > the paper, and trying to get sell's. > > And I was thinking of stuff i could do for the Free Kevin campaign, and i > got a bright idea!!! > > I could slip a Free Kevin Flyer in the copies that I hand out, and then > when people looked through, they would find a Kevin Flyer? > > I cant start doing that today, because i have no flyers, but tomorrow or > thursday when i et some copies, should i do that? sounds like a good idea, > now doesnt it? > > Ok, well latez all... > > *BRaiN KaNDy* > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 21:06:19 -0400 From: che guevara Subject: Re: [mitnick] Advertisement in the Paper not if they don't find out teo82@ix.netcom.com wrote: > Good Idea, but won't they fire you for that? > > On 09/29/98 15:30:54 you wrote: > > > >Hi all, I just got a job today going door-to-door giving a free copy of > >the paper, and trying to get sell's. > > > >And I was thinking of stuff i could do for the Free Kevin campaign, and i > >got a bright idea!!! > > > >I could slip a Free Kevin Flyer in the copies that I hand out, and then > >when people looked through, they would find a Kevin Flyer? > > > >I cant start doing that today, because i have no flyers, but tomorrow or > >thursday when i et some copies, should i do that? sounds like a good idea, > >now doesnt it? > > > >Ok, well latez all... > > > > > > > > *BRaiN KaNDy* > > > > > > > > > > Thomas E. O'Grady A.K.A. Crazed Dante > > Teo82@ix.netcom.com or Rascal14@aol.com - -- <--!che guevara--!> [ http://www.kevinmitnick.com ] [ http://cguevara.home.ml.org ] [ irc: cguevara (efnet) ] [ aim: chejuana ] __________________________ "A cat will look down to a man. A dog will look up to a man. But a pig will look you straight in the eye and see his equal." -Sir Winston Churchill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:47:11 -0700 From: bonq Subject: [mitnick] Flyers in News Papers.. It sounds like Brain is not delivering papers that someone already paid for, but giving it away, for the NEws Paper, in hopes to get subscriptions. This most likely means that he will probably have to give them a free copy in person. I would just as well figure that whne yuo give them the NEws Paper, give them a copy of the KEvin Flyer, and ask them to please take a look at it when they have some spare time.. that way you have put it in thier hands, they accept it, and it is not in thier news paper. This way the news paper will most likely not get calls complaining about the flyer since it is not in the paper, and you will be getting the word out as well.. Just a few thoughts (not very well organized) - -bonq ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:16:12 -0500 From: Zach Miller Subject: Re: [mitnick] Advertisement in the Paper still, there's always *someone* out there who will complain about flyers in their newspaper... when I delivered papers, people complained to me about those Veteran's benefit flyer things, and those were *supposed* to be in there che guevara wrote: > not if they don't find out > > teo82@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > > Good Idea, but won't they fire you for that? > > > > On 09/29/98 15:30:54 you wrote: > > > > > >Hi all, I just got a job today going door-to-door giving a free copy of > > >the paper, and trying to get sell's. > > > > > >And I was thinking of stuff i could do for the Free Kevin campaign, and i > > >got a bright idea!!! > > > > > >I could slip a Free Kevin Flyer in the copies that I hand out, and then > > >when people looked through, they would find a Kevin Flyer? > > > > > >I cant start doing that today, because i have no flyers, but tomorrow or > > >thursday when i et some copies, should i do that? sounds like a good idea, > > >now doesnt it? > > > > > >Ok, well latez all... > > > > > > > > > > > > *BRaiN KaNDy* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thomas E. O'Grady A.K.A. Crazed Dante > > > > Teo82@ix.netcom.com or Rascal14@aol.com > > -- > <--!che guevara--!> > [ http://www.kevinmitnick.com ] > [ http://cguevara.home.ml.org ] > [ irc: cguevara (efnet) ] > [ aim: chejuana ] > __________________________ > "A cat will look down to a man. A dog will look up to a man. But a pig will > look you straight in the eye and > see his equal." > -Sir Winston Churchill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 21:21:26 -0700 From: The Bri Man Subject: Re: [mitnick] Advertisement in the Paper At 16:42 9/29/98 , you wrote: > > > >Good Idea, but won't they fire you for that? I dont believe so. It is a free copy, and is not really trying to make some big ol money-making scheme, so i dont know why it would be wrong! Latez. *BRaiN KaNDy* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:27:54 -0700 (PDT) From: rOTTEN Subject: Re: [mitnick] Advertisement in the Paper On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, The Bri Man wrote: > I dont believe so. It is a free copy, and is not really trying to make > some big ol money-making scheme, so i dont know why it would be wrong! > > Latez. > > > *BRaiN KaNDy* Ask your boss. See what s/he thinks. If you think it's not a good idea to ask your boss, you probably have your answer right there. <..rOTTEN..> nobody move, nobody get hurt error187(1) critical failure ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:46:03 -0400 From: kerry Subject: [mitnick] Gotti, Mitnick, bail... ??!! What do you guys think about this? Gotti will pay millions for his bail, but he actually managed to get a hearing. Something about this would look good on a flyer, i think. http://cnn.com/US/9809/16/gotti.bail/index.html - ------------------------------------- September 16, 1998 'Junior' Gotti to be released on bail pending trial WHITE PLAINS, New York (CNN) -- A federal judge ruled Wednesday that alleged mob heir John A. "Junior" Gotti can be released on bail pending his trial on racketeering charges. The final conditions of bail were to be set in a hearing before Magistrate Judge Mark Fox. Gotti's lawyer, Sarita Kedia, said she hoped her client would be released by early next week. According to prosecutors, the 34-year-old Gotti has helped run the Gambino crime family since his father, John J. Gotti, was imprisoned for life for murder and racketeering in 1992. The son has been in jail since January, when he and 39 other men were indicted on various charges related to organized crime. U.S. District Judge Barrington Parker had denied Gotti bail twice before, saying Gotti was a threat to the community. But on Wednesday, in a brief written order, he said proposed conditions of release satisfy the law. Kedia said "justice has been served" by Parker's ruling. "The government was unable to show the court that John A. Gotti presented a danger to the community" or "that he held any supervisory position in the alleged Gambino family," Kedia told CNN. She said the defense has offered to put up $10 million in bail and would agree to house arrest, electronic surveillance or almost any other restrictions on Gotti's movements. His sister, writer Victoria Gotti, offered to put up her $4 million Long Island mansion as part of the bail package. Gotti is scheduled for trial in January. His lawyers argued that it would be unfair to keep him in jail for a year without bringing him to trial, and that there was no evidence Gotti is a mob boss. Related stories: Crazy old man or Mafia kingpin? Jury gets Gigante case - July 23, 1997 Mob bosses took a beating last year - January 3, 1997 No bail for alleged crime boss - December 23, 1996 Latest Headlines Revised Middle East peace deal gets Arafat's OK Coining a phrase: Berlin Republic offers hope for a new Germany Malaysia's Anwar faces new charge as international criticism grows Georges makes a drenching exit Joint Chiefs chairman says abundance of good civilian jobs hurts military recruitment Tobacco on trial in Washington state U.S. court protects 'annoying' online speech Computers boost kids' test scores Get the latest sports scores from CNN/SI Get the latest stock quotes from CNNfn Today on CNN Related sites: Note: Pages will open in a new browser window John Gotti, Sr. Mafia Men The John Gotti Tribute Page External sites are not endorsed by CNN Interactive. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:38:40 GMT From: squatex@fdt.net (squatex ) Subject: Re: [mitnick] Advertisement in the Paper On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:42:20 EDT, you shot across phone lines and fiber optic cable worldwide at amazing speeds: >You might as well, I mean, nobody is going to complain about it to the >newspaper, because its only a flyer, so you wont get in "trouble". And >besides people need to know about Kevin, so why not get it out in the open? I >say go for it. > >Riot Grrly > >In a message dated 9/29/1998 4:37:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >brainkandy@mindspring.com writes: > ><< I could slip a Free Kevin Flyer in the copies that I hand out, and then > when people looked through, they would find a Kevin Flyer? > > I cant start doing that today, because i have no flyers, but tomorrow or > thursday when i et some copies, should i do that? sounds like a good idea, > now doesnt it? >> although it could get really expensive, hitting alot of paper machines might be a bit more effective. dc... squatex@fdt.net FREE KEVIN MITNICK NOW! - www.kevinmitnick.com - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNe2Lv3lr+Q3ACIOvEQLhFwCfSiB25qq+W98ZKA/KxwQxVUC+jZEAoIDF loxMewZoGjnIpCY+/SUqtbBi =ym4I - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:03:02 +0200 From: Hamburg Robbert <95100526@student.sem.hhs.nl> Subject: [mitnick] Financial support online HELP !!! HELP!! Since today you can help earn money for Kevin. The money will be donated in his defense fund. What do you have to do ?? Go to http://www.come.to/rhamburg there you find a link about Webcelerator (TOP OF THE PAGE). Click on that link and Kevin will receive $0.05 per click. Please click only once per visit if you do more then his account will be disabled and we have to start all over. Please help and visit this page every time you are on the web. For you a small thing to do but a GREAT help for kevin. Please tell all you friends to help so we can earn as much money as possible for kevin. Greetings, Robbert. BOOKMARK THIS PAGE FOR EVEN QUICKER ACCES. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:14:25 +0200 From: Hamburg Robbert <95100526@student.sem.hhs.nl> Subject: RE: [mitnick] Finacial UPDATE !!HELP !! NEW URL The URL I supplied you earlier appears not to be working. Try this URL http://www.geocities.com/area51/8495 and start clicking the top TEXTLINK about webcelerator. But please donnot click more then once each visit. Greetings robbert ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:39:27 GMT From: squatex@fdt.net (John Barleycorn) Subject: Re: [mitnick] Finacial UPDATE !!HELP !! NEW URL On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:14:25 +0200, you shot across phone lines and fiber optic cable worldwide at amazing speeds: >The URL I supplied you earlier appears not to be working. Try this URL >http://www.geocities.com/area51/8495 and start clicking the top >TEXTLINK about webcelerator. But please donnot click more then once >each visit. > >Greetings robbert > It seems to me, thers so many sites that offer add deals like this it wouldnt be hard to set up a page with 20 or more of these. Kudos to whoever originally thought of this. It's a really good way even ppl that normally cant (or wont) help out with kevins defense fund. dc.... squatex@fdt.net FREE KEVIN MITNICK NOW! - www.kevinmitnick.com - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNe2Lv3lr+Q3ACIOvEQLhFwCfSiB25qq+W98ZKA/KxwQxVUC+jZEAoIDF loxMewZoGjnIpCY+/SUqtbBi =ym4I - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:29:15 EDT From: Bobwil623@aol.com Subject: Re: this looks fake - [mitnick] Finacial UPDATE !!HELP !! NEW URL this guy wrote.... > From: <95100526@student.sem.hhs.nl> (Hamburg Robbert) > Sender: > Reply-to: > To: ('...') > The URL I supplied you earlier appears not to be > working. Try this URL > and start > clicking the top TEXTLINK about webcelerator. > But please donnot click more then once each > visit. > > Greetings robbert... well, i went to the link, clicked on the textlink about webcelerator, and got exactly where i thought i'd get -- to the webcelerator download site, without a damn word about kevin mitnik nor the legal issues faced by kevin in prison. if this isn't bullshit, then tell us why, "robbert".... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 17:02:46 +0200 From: Hamburg Robbert <95100526@student.sem.hhs.nl> Subject: [mitnick] Finacial UPDATE !!HELP !! NEW URL IT ISN"T FAKE - ---------- From: Hamburg Robbert Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 1998 5:01 PM To: 'Bobwil623@aol.com' Subject: RE: this looks fake - [mitnick] Finacial UPDATE !!HELP !! NEW URL Well every time you follow this link Kevin's account we be added with one visit hich means $0.05 and by the end of the month when he has reached enough visit he will receive a check. Thanks for your trust DUH. - ---------- From: Bobwil623@aol.com [SMTP:Bobwil623@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 1998 4:29 PM To: mitnick@2600.com Subject: Re: this looks fake - [mitnick] Finacial UPDATE !!HELP !! NEW URL this guy wrote.... > From: <95100526@student.sem.hhs.nl> (Hamburg Robbert) > Sender: > Reply-to: > To: ('...') > The URL I supplied you earlier appears not to be > working. Try this URL > and start > clicking the top TEXTLINK about webcelerator. > But please donnot click more then once each > visit. > > Greetings robbert... well, i went to the link, clicked on the textlink about webcelerator, and got exactly where i thought i'd get -- to the webcelerator download site, without a damn word about kevin mitnik nor the legal issues faced by kevin in prison. if this isn't bullshit, then tell us why, "robbert".... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:10:57 EDT From: Bobwil623@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] NEW URL IT ISN"T FAKE #2 95100526@student.sem.hhs.nl (Hamburg Robbert) wrote... > Well every time you follow this link Kevin's > account we be added with one visit hich means > $0.05 and by the end of the month when he has > reached enough visit he will receive a check. > Thanks for your trust DUH. hey, no need to get huffy. i followed the link, so i've already added my US$0.05.... if the description shown above is is true, then thanks for helping out. then again, it would help if there were text near the link, or on the destination page, that acknowledges the contribution to kevin's defense fund. scans of the cancelled checks made out to the kevnin mitnick defense fund (administered by kevin's grandmother!) and posted to your website would be the ultimate proof, of course.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:23:22 -0600 From: "Kevin Joubert" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Sentencing statistics - -----Original Message----- From: rOTTEN To: mitnick@2600.com Date: Sunday, September 27, 1998 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [mitnick] Sentencing statistics >When his trial is over, he'll have served about 4 years and will PROBABLY >get credit for time served...well, that would be the LOGICAL thing to do.. > >This means he'll more than likely be a free man when he's convicted. Being a conspiracy nut, I would say that it is conceivable that if Kevin is convicted, the judge will probably sentence Kevin with a sentence equal to his time served. That would shut down any controversy over "wrongful" imprisonment, or rob the credibility of such an argument anyway. At least, after-the-fact and in the eyes of John Q. Public. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:33:28 -0600 From: "Kevin Joubert" Subject: [mitnick] Mitnick Merchandise Email I set up an email address for any correspondence about the Mitnick Merchandise. mitnick_fund@hotmail.com Anyone ordering, please send me a note at that address. thanks, Kevin Joubert ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 19:00:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Screamer Subject: Re: [mitnick] Sentencing statistics On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Kevin Joubert wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: rOTTEN > To: mitnick@2600.com > Date: Sunday, September 27, 1998 9:11 PM > Subject: Re: [mitnick] Sentencing statistics > > > > > >When his trial is over, he'll have served about 4 years and will PROBABLY > >get credit for time served...well, that would be the LOGICAL thing to do.. > > > >This means he'll more than likely be a free man when he's convicted. > > there is no PROBABLY about it.. they will have to give credit for such. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:58:53 EDT From: WyRmXx@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] NEW URL IT ISN"T FAKE #2 In a message dated 9/30/98 11:47:01 AM US Eastern Standard Time, Bobwil623@aol.com writes: > hey, no need to get huffy. > > i followed the link, so i've already added my US$0.05.... > > if the description shown above is is true, then thanks for helping out. > then again, it would help if there were text near the link, or on the > destination page, that acknowledges the contribution to kevin's defense > fund. > > scans of the cancelled checks made out to the kevnin mitnick defense fund > (administered by kevin's grandmother!) and posted to your website would > be the ultimate proof, of course.... i dont think he would lie about something like that..especially with the small amount of $.05/click. even if it is a lie..i dont think its a big deal. it certainly gave the rest of us the idea to do the same. - -WyRm ------------------------------ Date: 30 Sep 98 14:08:54 Pacific Standard Time From: Gortex Subject: [mitnick] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --X-X-X-X-X-X--NeoPlanet-MIME-TEXTandHTML--X-X-X-X-X-X-X83072862-X-X Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" unsubscribe mitnick ________________________________ gortex@paranoid.org · www.paranoid.org - --X-X-X-X-X-X--NeoPlanet-MIME-TEXTandHTML--X-X-X-X-X-X-X83072862-X-X Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" unsubscribe mitnick

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gortex@paranoid.org · www.paranoid.org - --X-X-X-X-X-X--NeoPlanet-MIME-TEXTandHTML--X-X-X-X-X-X-X83072862-X-X-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:49:11 GMT From: squatex@fdt.net (John Barleycorn) Subject: Re: [mitnick] Sentencing statistics On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:23:22 -0600, you shot across phone lines and fiber optic cable worldwide at amazing speeds: > >-----Original Message----- >From: rOTTEN >To: mitnick@2600.com >Date: Sunday, September 27, 1998 9:11 PM >Subject: Re: [mitnick] Sentencing statistics > > > > >>When his trial is over, he'll have served about 4 years and will PROBABLY >>get credit for time served...well, that would be the LOGICAL thing to do.. >> >>This means he'll more than likely be a free man when he's convicted. > > >Being a conspiracy nut, I would say that it is conceivable that if Kevin is >convicted, the judge will probably sentence Kevin with a sentence equal to >his time served. That would shut down any controversy over "wrongful" >imprisonment, or rob the credibility of such an argument anyway. At least, >after-the-fact and in the eyes of John Q. Public. > > It really depends on how hard "The Man" wants to stick it to him. If hes convicted of all the charges against him ( which would be scarry as hell, given the outlandishness of some of those charges ) he could be looking at 7 - 9 years. If things keep going the way they have been for the last 3+ years, he will no doubt recieve the maximum penalty. The treatment hes recieved from the government already, combined with the fact that this is a "high profile" case that could potentially give the government a black eye if lost, have me wondering just how long this injustice will go on. Then again the feds may want this whole thing over with befor ppl actually get too upset. dc.... squatex@fdt.net FREE KEVIN MITNICK NOW! - www.kevinmitnick.com - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNe2Lv3lr+Q3ACIOvEQLhFwCfSiB25qq+W98ZKA/KxwQxVUC+jZEAoIDF loxMewZoGjnIpCY+/SUqtbBi =ym4I - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:56:32 -0400 From: Emmanuel Goldstein Subject: [mitnick] off the hook hey all, i want to thank everyone for keeping the flame going - kevin really appreciates your efforts as well. whether you're just putting up a sticker, telling your classmates, or spreading the word at supermarkets or malls, it's really having an effect. as a lot of you know, i've been real busy on the film project and getting the just completed fall issue out the door. we've managed to get a much revised web site up and running on both 2600 and the kevinmitnick site, complete with updated info and more features. for that, great thanks is due to kerry, macki, wicked, and of course, kiratoy for their tireless efforts. off the hook is totally caught up and, only a few minutes ago, we put the 1994 shows online. i strongly urge people to listen to these shows as they cover the period where co-host phiber optik was imprisoned as well as his eventual homecoming. while he was only there for around ten months, it seemed an eternity at the time and the parallels to what kevin has been going through really hit pretty hard at times. you can hear the shows by going to www.2600.com and make sure you have a realaudio plug-in on your browser if you want to listen to them live, otherwise download them and use a realaudio player. i should also point out that we finally grabbed control of www.freekevin.com. emmanuel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:09:42 -0700 From: "Paul Hsieh" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Sentencing statistics > > >When his trial is over, he'll have served about 4 years and will PROBABLY > > >get credit for time served...well, that would be the LOGICAL thing to do.. > > > > > >This means he'll more than likely be a free man when he's convicted. > > there is no PROBABLY about it.. they will have to give credit for such. Uhhh ... not to be a kill joy or anything, but it was my understanding that they were going to dick with Kevin. I.e., when he is found innocent in LA, he'll just be hauled off to North Carolina and await trial there. I remember hearing that somewhere, can anyone confirm or deny this recollection? - -- Paul Hsieh qed@pobox.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:22:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Burroughs Subject: Re: [mitnick] Sentencing statistics On 01-Oct-98 Paul Hsieh wrote: > Uhhh ... not to be a kill joy or anything, but it was my understanding that > they > were going to dick with Kevin. I.e., when he is found innocent in LA, he'll > just > be hauled off to North Carolina and await trial there. I remember hearing > that > somewhere, can anyone confirm or deny this recollection? As I understand it, Schindler has specifically threatened to prosecute Kevin in other jurisdictions. That may happen regardless of what the result in the upcoming federal trial is. There are no guarantees. It would certainly seem much more likely, though, if Kevin were to win. I don't think this would necessarily be in N.C., though. Rich - --- rich@p a r a n o i d.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 01:26:50 EDT From: FallOut4E@aol.com Subject: [mitnick] Tried in every state..... I also have heard that. Can anyone with law knowledge please tell me how this can happen? Isn't that like being tried for the same thing twice? The government I guess figures that Kevin broke the law in many states, so he can be tried in each state? Sounds like cruel and unusual punishment to me, even if he is found not-guilty of everything. Also how can Gotti Jr. of all people be granted bail, and Kevin can't even get a hearing? Apparently running a crime family is not quite as bad as stealing software. In a message dated 10/1/98 1:10:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, qed@mindspring.com writes: > Uhhh ... not to be a kill joy or anything, but it was my understanding that > they > were going to dick with Kevin. I.e., when he is found innocent in LA, he'll > just > be hauled off to North Carolina and await trial there. I remember hearing > that > somewhere, can anyone confirm or deny this recollection? > ------------------------------ End of mitnick-digest V1 #170 *****************************