mitnick-digest Thursday, October 15 1998 Volume 01 : Number 177 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 02:57:46 -0700 (PDT) From: rOTTEN Subject: Re: [mitnick] Another denial for kevin On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, kerry wrote: > We should compile a list of hackers who've been accused of/convicted for > worse crimes than those Kevin's accused of. Suggestions? The espionage charge against Poulsen was pretty bad. It carries a 15 year mandatory minimum. This is what put him on the run in the first place. <..rOTTEN..> nobody move, nobody get hurt error187(1) critical failure ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:19:56 EDT From: JediHamstr@aol.com Subject: [mitnick] Me on the radio..... I think I may have mentioned this before, i dont know how many of you actually read the letter..... About a week ago, I faxed into this psychic call-in show called Psychic Eye (perhaps some of you know of this show?) on WLIR FM 92.7. Anyway, I was getting kind of bored, so i went over to my computer and sent a fax. It asked the psychic a little question, and at the end of the fax, I put the tag "FREE KEVIN www.KevinMitnick.com" and much to my surprise, they read it on the air. They even told people to go to the web site. I'm sure that at least a few people went to the site, especially since the show hosts an internet chat and answers questions that people ask in the chat room. I've been trying very hard to get the word out. I really hope that this got some people interested. - -Jedi In a message dated 10/11/98 3:30:05 AM, emmanuel@2600.com writes: >if we all took the opportunity to spread the word like >this, making sure the facts we speak are correct, we can reach so >many more people. > >emmanuel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:16:07 -0400 From: Mike Blaguszewski Subject: Re: [mitnick] yet another idiotic story The story itself does not really suggest that anyone "hacked" the sites, but rather that they registered similar domains and linked them to a white supremacist page. The headline, which is I think what you are complaining about, is usually chosen by the paper running the story, not the Associated Press. Mike Blaguszewski On 10/11/98 at 2:19 AM, Emmanuel Goldstein wrote: > this just got sent in - i imagine it's appearing in papers around > the country. the following could have been done by *anyone* - why > they insist hackers are involved is beyond me. if this appears in > your local paper, *please* write a letter. > > emmanuel > > Hackers link papers' names to racist Web site > > By The Associated Press > > PHILADELPHIA -- Internet users attempting to access the Web sites of The > (Cleveland) Plain Dealer, The Philadelphia Inquirer, the Pittsburgh > Post-Gazette and at > least seven other newspapers with Web addresses similar to the papers' > names instead > found themselves linked to the Web site of a white supremacist group. > > Someone registered Internet addresses that included part or all of the > newspapers' > names, then linked those addresses to the "Stormfront" Internet site. > That site features the > words "White Pride World Wide" and includes racist articles and links > to other racist > sites. > > For example, The Philadelphia Inquirer is found at phillynews.com. > Someone trying to > find the newspaper site by typing "philadelphiainquirer. com" would > have gotten the racist > site. > > An upset reader alerted Philadelphia Online, the online site of The > Inquirer and > Philadelphia Daily News, to the problem on Wednesday. The company sent a > cease-and-desist letter to the registered owner of the address. > Philadelphia Online > general manager Fred Mann promised to take additional legal action if > that doesn't work. > > Other affected newspapers include the Chicago Sun-Times, San Jose > Mercury News, > Atlanta Constitution, San Francisco Examiner, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, > the Albuquerque > Tribune and the London Telegraph. > > Don Black, the owner of Stormfront, denied any involvement in the > incidents, but he said > he knows the California man who was. That man was not identified. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:27:57 -0400 From: Porkchop Subject: Re: [mitnick] yet another idiotic story God help us if they ever see www.whitehouse.com. PkCp At 2:16 PM -0400 10/11/98, Mike Blaguszewski wrote: >The story itself does not really suggest that anyone "hacked" the sites, but >rather that they registered similar domains and linked them to a white >supremacist page. The headline, which is I think what you are complaining >about, >is usually chosen by the paper running the story, not the Associated Press. > >Mike Blaguszewski > >On 10/11/98 at 2:19 AM, Emmanuel Goldstein wrote: > >> this just got sent in - i imagine it's appearing in papers around >> the country. the following could have been done by *anyone* - why >> they insist hackers are involved is beyond me. if this appears in >> your local paper, *please* write a letter. >> >> emmanuel >> >> Hackers link papers' names to racist Web site >> >> By The Associated Press >> >> PHILADELPHIA -- Internet users attempting to access the Web sites >>of The >> (Cleveland) Plain Dealer, The Philadelphia Inquirer, the Pittsburgh >> Post-Gazette and at >> least seven other newspapers with Web addresses similar to the papers' >> names instead >> found themselves linked to the Web site of a white supremacist group. >> >> Someone registered Internet addresses that included part or all of the >> newspapers' >> names, then linked those addresses to the "Stormfront" Internet site. >> That site features the >> words "White Pride World Wide" and includes racist articles and links >> to other racist >> sites. >> >> For example, The Philadelphia Inquirer is found at phillynews.com. >> Someone trying to >> find the newspaper site by typing "philadelphiainquirer. com" would >> have gotten the racist >> site. >> >> An upset reader alerted Philadelphia Online, the online site of The >> Inquirer and >> Philadelphia Daily News, to the problem on Wednesday. The company >>sent a >> cease-and-desist letter to the registered owner of the address. >> Philadelphia Online >> general manager Fred Mann promised to take additional legal action if >> that doesn't work. >> >> Other affected newspapers include the Chicago Sun-Times, San Jose >> Mercury News, >> Atlanta Constitution, San Francisco Examiner, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, >> the Albuquerque >> Tribune and the London Telegraph. >> >> Don Black, the owner of Stormfront, denied any involvement in the >> incidents, but he said >> he knows the California man who was. That man was not identified. >> - -------- My mis-spelling ability knows no bounds, sorry. (umm, yaa, aie cn spel) Creator: Techie Theatre Funnies OnStage! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:58:59 -0400 From: "Bachrach" Subject: [mitnick] a little inspiration (and a good book) I was just looking at the philly inquirer's homepage and I stumbled accross the first chapter of a book by Mike Godwin on freedom of speech. Goodwin last I heard was the legal counsel for the EFF, and I think he used to work for the ACLU. Anyway, I just want to quote something from his book: - --- Want proof that the Net has leveled the playing field? All you have to do is look at the Time/Rimm cyberporn scandal, detailed at length in this book. In that case, a few concerned individuals and I discovered that when you know how to use the Net, and have the truth on your side, it doesn't matter how much sheer media muscle the other guy has. It was a rough ride for all of us. But what we learned then about freedom of speech and the power of the Net turned out to be invaluable -- a source of renewed hope about free speech in an open society. - ---- Oh yeah, if you want to read the whole thing you can at http://books.phillynews.com/chapter/nonfict/godwin_mike.asp I just thought that this might be apropriate, considering that this is really what we're trying to do. I'm actually going to see if I can't work some part of it into a letter I'm going to write to them about KM. Also, I'll watch closely to see if they write about that thing emmanuel was talking about where those *cough* hackers *cough* decided to buy a few domains and make them white supremecy groups homepages. We all know that only hackers would be devious enough and wealthy enough to spend the $12 required to register a domain and put up something not related to the domain name. - ----------------------------------- | are you helping distributed.net to crack RC-5 64 encryption? you should be. | are you on distributed.net and on team #39, cracking for kevin? you should be. - ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:10:37 EDT From: Phoenxknt@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] Me on the radio..... In a message dated 98-10-11 11:23:57 EDT, you write: << Subj: [mitnick] Me on the radio..... Date: 98-10-11 11:23:57 EDT From: JediHamstr@aol.com Sender: owner-mitnick@2600.com Reply-to: mitnick@2600.com To: mitnick@2600.com I think I may have mentioned this before, i dont know how many of you actually read the letter..... About a week ago, I faxed into this psychic call-in show called Psychic Eye (perhaps some of you know of this show?) on WLIR FM 92.7. Anyway, I was getting kind of bored, so i went over to my computer and sent a fax. It asked the psychic a little question, and at the end of the fax, I put the tag "FREE KEVIN www.KevinMitnick.com" and much to my surprise, they read it on the air. They even told people to go to the web site. I'm sure that at least a few people went to the site, especially since the show hosts an internet chat and answers questions that people ask in the chat room. I've been trying very hard to get the word out. I really hope that this got some people interested. -Jedi >> Another thing to do is to call in to your local country radio station (unless youi know of another apropriate song) and ask to request "We Will Be Free" by Garth Brooks, and then say "Check out www.freekevin.com". I did it last week, and hope the word got out. - -Absolute Matter ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:50:34 EDT From: KurtMcCool@aol.com Subject: [mitnick] unsubscribe unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:37:10 +0000 From: codefreez Subject: [mitnick] "Internet Business" hacker article I don't know if this was mentioned before, but the October issue of Internet Business magazine has a cover story on "Ethical Hackers" and inside (page 53) they have face drawings and discriptions of some famous hackers. Kevin Mitnick is one of them, and it has some info on his past arrests, but says *nothing* about his current situation. It doesn't even mention he's still in prison. Phiber Optik is also mentioned on that page, with a description much more flattering than Kevin's. (not that Phiber deserves a bad one, but that they make Kevin look evil.) - -codefreez ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:40:52 -0400 From: "Zachary Armstrong" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Uh, me in the news The Bri Man wrote: > > Ok, i got into my local newspaper... > > well, a letter to the editor about the NYT hack, and some other shit 'bout > kevin... check it out at the following link: > > http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Underground/3587/FreeKevin/newspaper.gif > > by the way, my name is Brian Redfern. ok, latez. > > *BRaiN KaNDy* > > > > hey man, what paper was that in, and also, would you mind if i send that to my local paper, of course, written by you? FREE KEVIN ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:17:29 -0400 From: Arik Hesseldahl Subject: Re: [mitnick] "Internet Business" hacker article On a related note, Internet Business is one of the three Ziff Davis mags that got shut down last week. Arik out. >I don't know if this was mentioned before, but the October issue of >Internet Business magazine has a cover story on "Ethical Hackers" and >inside (page 53) they have face drawings and discriptions of some famous >hackers. Kevin Mitnick is one of them, and it has some info on his past >arrests, but says *nothing* about his current situation. It doesn't even >mention he's still in prison. > >Phiber Optik is also mentioned on that page, with a description much more >flattering than Kevin's. (not that Phiber deserves a bad one, but that they >make Kevin look evil.) > >-codefreez ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:49:55 -0400 From: Dave Robertson Subject: [mitnick] Independant Ink hack Independant Ink has just been hacked in Kevin's name. The site http://www.independentink.com/ currently displays the text "Sorry we are currently having security problems at the moment... Please allow us time to recover." and then the two large FREE KEVIN graphics linked to http://www.2600.com Currently Independant Ink still displays the hacked page, it is also reproduced at http://www.2600.com/hackedphiles/current/ink/ - -Dave Robertson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:32:29 -0400 From: "D. Kall Loper" Subject: [mitnick] Supreme does listen to the public ...The case was petitioned to the Supreme Court, which denied its review because of the belief that evidence was tampered with during the second testing. Prosecutors claimed that the defense had failed to send all of the evidence originally tested to the lab and that lab officials were blatantly asked to hide all unfavorable results. Supreme Court justices felt that political lobbyists against the death penalty might stoop low enough to tamper with evidence, even in a Supreme Court review. A large public outcry against the Supreme Court's decision to deny review was launched. Web sites formed for petitioning O'Dell's innocence led to public awareness as well as interest group support and the support of the Pope. Because of the public voice, the Supreme Court decided to grant full review to the Joseph O'Dell murder case. Site: www.gbiz.com/odell- DNA Proves Man's Innocence The context is irrelevant, but isn't this the kind of thing we are trying to do for Kevin? It works. - ----------------------------------------------- Diplomacy is the art of saying "nice doggy" until you can find a big rock. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:21:16 -0400 From: gjones@raleigh.ibm.com Subject: [mitnick] http://www.independentink.com/ You gotta Love the source code on that! To the operator of this web, sir you have a slight security problem that needs fixing I suggest u change you passwords immediately! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:37:40 -0500 From: "Joe Shambro" Subject: Re: [mitnick] http://www.independentink.com/ The fact that they used MS-Frontpage Express to write it shows a lot about the intelect of the person writing it. Actually, I consider that a real waste of someone's resources, and I belive that these people could have foudn a more positive way to instrument their message. - -Joe - -----Original Message----- From: gjones@raleigh.ibm.com To: mitnick@2600.com Date: Monday, October 12, 1998 4:15 PM Subject: [mitnick] http://www.independentink.com/ >You gotta Love the source code on that! > >To the operator of this web, sir you have a slight security problem that needs fixing I suggest u change you passwords >immediately! > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 02:21:57 GMT From: squatex@fdt.net (John Barleycorn) Subject: Re: [mitnick] Independant Ink hack On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:49:55 -0400, Dave Robertson shot across phone lines and fiber optic cable worldwide at amazing speeds: >Independant Ink has just been hacked in Kevin's name. > >The site http://www.independentink.com/ currently displays the text >"Sorry we are currently having security problems at the moment... >Please allow us time to recover." and then the two large FREE KEVIN >graphics linked to http://www.2600.com > >Currently Independant Ink still displays the hacked page, it is also >reproduced at http://www.2600.com/hackedphiles/current/ink/ > >-Dave Robertson well its like 10:30pm EST here and its STILL up. I was think ing i might miss this one. :P dc.... squatex@fdt.net FREE KEVIN MITNICK NOW! - www.kevinmitnick.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 23:56:10 EDT From: Antboy23@aol.com Subject: [mitnick] independentink In a message dated 10/12/98, 6:47:02 PM,Joe Shambro writes: %The fact that they used MS-Frontpage Express to write it shows a lot about %the intelect of the person writing it. yes, yes it does. it shows, without a doubt, that they spent more time hacking and less time formatting a hacked web page. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 00:32:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Ball Subject: Re: [mitnick] independentink On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 Antboy23@aol.com wrote: # In a message dated 10/12/98, 6:47:02 PM,Joe Shambro writes: # # %The fact that they used MS-Frontpage Express to write it shows a lot about # %the intelect of the person writing it. # # yes, yes it does. it shows, without a doubt, that they spent more time hacking # and less time formatting a hacked web page. Only a Nazi would start a software war on the Mitnick list. Don't you be a Nazi. - -- me O- Of course, using FrontPhage for web work means they probably used somebody else's cute Win95 exploit program with the point-and-click interface, and if *I* were going to hack a web page, I'd use clever elisp code to do all the work for me, because I use the One True Editor. But I'd *never* mention that on the list. Sieg heil! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:37:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Support Services Subject: Re: [mitnick] http://www.independentink.com/ Joe Shambro wrote: > The fact that they used MS-Frontpage Express to write it shows a lot > about the intelect of the person writing it. Well, perhaps they didn't have a moron like you around to recommend an aesthetically pleasing webpage editor. > Actually, I consider that a real waste of someone's resources, > and I belive that these people could have foudn a more positive > way to instrument their message. -Joe Positive according to who's definition of positive? How surprised would you be to discover that what's not positive to you might be positive to someone else? Grow out of your box. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:39:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Support Services Subject: Re: [mitnick] Uh, me in the news The Bri Man wrote: > Ok, i got into my local newspaper... > by the way, my name is Brian Redfern. ok, latez. > > *BRaiN KaNDy* You're soooo kewl, Brian! I want to have your baby. Stillborn, preferably. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:29:37 -0400 From: Kenneth Lo Subject: [mitnick]independentink after 24 hours... is still up with the "hack" page. I started to have a funning feeling that either the sysadmin there is on a pemenant vacation or it's a hoax just like the MS and whitehouse pages @ 2600 website. - -- klops ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:25:57 -0400 From: gjones@raleigh.ibm.com Subject: Re: [mitnick]independentink after 24 hours... I don't think its a Hoax page. But I do want to say this, I don't know who it was that said that they checked the source code for this page and said that the person who hacked it used front page express, and then went on to call him an asshole for using it. But what fucking difference does it make if he created a page using front page or if he wrote the html himself? what program he used to re-write the web page is irrelevant. The point is he did it!! klops@bigfoot.com on 10-13-98 03:29:37 PM Please respond to mitnick@2600.com To: mitnick@2600.com cc: (bcc: Gregory Jones/NWSMEL) Subject: [mitnick]independentink after 24 hours... is still up with the "hack" page. I started to have a funning feeling that either the sysadmin there is on a pemenant vacation or it's a hoax just like the MS and whitehouse pages @ 2600 website. - -- klops ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:58:02 PDT From: "AnGeL oF DeAtH" Subject: Re: [mitnick]independentink after 24 hours... when the point was brought up about FP Express I will have to agree that the maker should NOT use FPE for the same reason the page was hacked--security problems. That is why FP 98 came out such a short time after FPE. many problems were found with it. all this informations is just from what ive heard and read from things a while back so if im wrong please someone who knows what they are talkin about let me know. Thanks _______________________________________ | | |AnGel oF DeATh | |We all go sometime | |---------------------------------------| |ICQ-->8369754 | |E-Mail-->hells_angels_666@hotmail.com | |---------------------------------------| |FREE KEVIN | |_______________________________________| ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:35:06 -0400 From: Dan Sissman Subject: Re: [mitnick] Uh, me in the news Support Services wrote: > You're soooo kewl, Brian! I want to have your baby. > Stillborn, preferably. I don't get it. Are you ridiculing him for getting a pro-Mitnick letter printed in his local paper, or for mentioning it on the Kevin Mitnick mailing list? - -- Dan Sissman, amateur triviaphile Free Kevin Mitnick! http://www.albany.net/~dsissman http://www.kevinmitnick.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 01:56:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Support Services Subject: Re: [mitnick] Uh, me in the news On -0400, Dan Sissman wrote: > I don't get it. Are you ridiculing him for getting a pro-Mitnick > letter printed in his local paper, or for mentioning it on the > Kevin Mitnick mailing list? One or the other? What limited choices. How about reason #27: I am simply contributing to the overall noise on this list. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:54:19 +0200 From: Hamburg Robbert <95100526@student.sem.hhs.nl> Subject: [mitnick] [Mitnick] sponsor see the applet on the homepage Hi I have developped an JAVA APPLET in which I discribe what is going on with Kevin. And I do encourage people to click on the banner. Perhaps people will start believing my good intentions when they see this. http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8495 So visit and see for your self ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:33:20 -0400 (EDT) From: ksandre Subject: Re: [mitnick] Uh, me in the news On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Support Services wrote: > On -0400, Dan Sissman wrote: > > I don't get it. Are you ridiculing him for getting a pro-Mitnick > > letter printed in his local paper, or for mentioning it on the > > Kevin Mitnick mailing list? > > One or the other? What limited choices. How about reason #27: > I am simply contributing to the overall noise on this list. Awhile ago, it was requested here that people share their success (or other responses) to letters written to media, etc. about Kevin. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:54:04 EDT From: BadGirlnLA@aol.com Subject: [mitnick] Entertainment Weekly article HACK JOB Entertainment Weekly October 2, 1998 An upcoming film about alleged cyberfelon Kevin Mitnick enrages the digital underground--and spurs havoc at the New York Times site. by Zack Stentz It looks as though the Starr Report is no longer the raunchiest thing on the Web. Visitors who logged on to the New York Times website on Sept. 13 found that the Gray Lady's online counter- part had received a racy makeover, courtesy of a group of hackers calling themselves HFG--"Hacking for Girlies." HFG replaced the Times home page with nudie pictures, links to porn and anti-Scientology sites, and most notably, a rambling $creed blasting the Times and reporter John Markoff for its coverage of imprisoned hacker Kevin Mitnick. "DO YOU HAV3 NIGHTMAR3S ABOUT H3LPING IMPRISON K3VIN?" HFG asked Markoff, using stereotypically creative hacker spelling. "WHY NO ARTICL3S ON TH3 MOVI3 COMING OUT THAT FURTH3R DEMONIZ3S HIM?" For those joining this cyberspat in progress, the reference is to the Miramax coproduction "Takedown", due out in 1999. Based on the book of the same title by Markoff and computer-security expert Tsutomu Shimomura (cruelly referred to as "JAPBOY" on the hacked Times site), the film follows Shimomura's mid '90's pursuit of legendary hacker Mitnick and stars Russell Wong (The Joy Luck Club) and Skeet Ulrich (As Good as It Gets) as the cyberspace opponents. "This is going to be the most reality- based hacker film ever made," producer Brad Weston enthuses from the Wilmington, N.C., set. The Times hackers obviously beg to differ. So did the protesters who marched on Miramax's New York offices July 10 shouting, "Skeet's a scab!" and who continue to agitate against the film at such sites as http://www.kevinmitnick.com. Their gripe: The film unfairly condemns Mitnick, now sitting in an L.A. jail awaiting trial for alleged computer fraud and other charges. While ex-hacker and close Mitnick friend Alexis Kasperavicius dismisses the protesters as "14-year-old hackers with too much testosterone," he shares some of their concerns. Specifically, he and other Mitnick supporters claim drafts of the script they saw depicted Mitnick whistling codes into phones to make free pay-phone calls, hacking into secure government computers, and even attacking Shimomura with a trash-can lid in an alley-- offenses not even Mitnick's prosecutors accuse him of doing. "Kevin did break some laws, but he never crashed anyone's systems or used any software he found for personal profit," Kasperavicius says. "His main crime was curiosity, and the challenge of getting into these systems." Still, "Takedown's" producers say that despite Shimomura's presence on the set, they've gone out of their way to be evenhanded. "We've embraced Kevin's supporters and consulted with them," says Weston. "Some of them (including Kasperavicius) have even visited the set and become extras...and I think that they've seen that Kevin Mitnick is as fairly portrayed in the film as Shimomura." Mitnick himself is more preoccupied with his upcoming trial than with the prospect of being played by Skeet Ulrich, says Kasperavicius, "though he's really p---ed that he's being portrayed as this evil person." And what does Mitnick think of the hackers who are sabotaging websites and making threats in his name? "He has nothing to do with them, and wishes they'd stop, because it just makes him look worse." Still, Miramax honcho Harvey Weinstein might want to consider backing up his hard drive--just in case. Hotlink to The Web Guide at www.ew.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:23:31 -0400 From: "Zachary Armstrong" Subject: [mitnick] Finally makeing progress Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:32:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Drew Sullivan To: zach armstrong Subject: Re: Kevin Mitnick Zach, Thank you for your email on the Kevin Mitnick issue. I no longer work for the Associated Press or cover this kind of issue. I have, however, sent a number of emails to the AP's reporters who would cover this issue. I have strongly encouraged them to look at the treatment Mitnick has received. I don't know if they will write a story or what they would say but I do believe that we must always look at what might be violations of someone's rights. I wish I could be of more assistance. I will continue to encourage all reporters I know to cover the issue. - -drew +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Drew Sullivan | The Tennessean | www.reporter.org/~drew v(615)259-8277 | 1100 Broadway | d r e w @ n i c a r.o r g f(615)259-8093 | Nashville, TN 37202 | **********NOTE: PLEASE SEND ALL MAIL TO drew@nicar.org************ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:18:30 EDT From: JAKade@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] Finally makeing progress In a message dated 10/14/98 8:26:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, zarmstrong@emerson.k12.nj.us writes: > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:32:36 -0400 (EDT) > From: Drew Sullivan > To: zach armstrong > Subject: Re: Kevin Mitnick > > Zach, > > Thank you for your email on the Kevin Mitnick issue. I no longer work > for the Associated Press or cover this kind of issue. I have, however, > sent a number of emails to the AP's reporters who would cover this > issue. I have strongly encouraged them to look at the treatment Mitnick > has received. I don't know if they will write a story or what they would > say but I do believe that we must always look at what might be > violations of someone's rights. I wish I could be of more assistance. I > will continue to encourage all reporters I know to cover the issue. > -drew Sounds like a great guy. How'd you find him? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:17:27 EDT From: JAKade@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] Entertainment Weekly article What tripe. JUST ONCE I'd like to see a good, truthful, evenhanded article on hacking in a major magazine. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:28:33 EDT From: FallOut4E@aol.com Subject: [mitnick] What progress? What I don't get is why reporters haven't paid any attention at all to the treatment Mitnick is receiving. All they do is comment about how hackers and others are upset at Kevin's imprisonment, but seem afraid to say WHY we are upset about his imprisonment. There's no mention of the 4 years without a bail hearing, not being able to review the evidence, or the trumped up damages the government is claiming. I think they are all afraid to look "pro-hacker," and rather go with the flow. In a message dated 10/14/98 8:16:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, zarmstrong@emerson.k12.nj.us writes: > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:32:36 -0400 (EDT) > From: Drew Sullivan > To: zach armstrong > Subject: Re: Kevin Mitnick > > Zach, > > Thank you for your email on the Kevin Mitnick issue. I no longer work > for the Associated Press or cover this kind of issue. I have, however, > sent a number of emails to the AP's reporters who would cover this > issue. I have strongly encouraged them to look at the treatment Mitnick > has received. I don't know if they will write a story or what they would > say but I do believe that we must always look at what might be > violations of someone's rights. I wish I could be of more assistance. I > will continue to encourage all reporters I know to cover the issue. > -drew > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:59:01 -0400 From: ScooB Subject: Re: [mitnick]independentink after 24 hours... gjones you make a realistic point, if somone digs a hole who really cares what shovel he used... it could be quite simply he altered the originol file caring only about what whould show up in a browser, leaving the "useless" meta tags gjones@raleigh.ibm.com wrote: > I don't think its a Hoax page. But I do want to say this, I don't > know who it was that said that they checked the > source code for this page and said that the person who hacked it used > front page express, and then went on to call him > an asshole for using it. But what fucking difference does it make if > he created a page using front page or if he wrote > the html himself? what program he used to re-write the web page is > irrelevant. The point is he did it!! > > klops@bigfoot.com on 10-13-98 03:29:37 PM > > Please respond to mitnick@2600.com > > To: mitnick@2600.com > cc: (bcc: Gregory Jones/NWSMEL) > Subject: [mitnick]independentink after 24 hours... > > is still up with the "hack" page. > I started to have a funning feeling that either the sysadmin there is > on > a pemenant vacation or it's a hoax just like the MS and whitehouse > pages > @ 2600 website. > -- klops ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:03:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Support Services Subject: Re: [mitnick] Uh, me in the news On 9:3+1 (EDT), ksandre wrote: > > One or the other? What limited choices. How about reason #27: > > I am simply contributing to the overall noise on this list. > > Awhile ago, it was requested here that people share their success > (or other responses) to letters written to media, etc. about Kevin. The full moon shines on the highway like fresh lacquer on a bench. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:30:40 -0400 (EDT) From: ksandre Subject: Re: [mitnick] Uh, me in the news On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Support Services wrote: > The full moon shines on the highway like fresh lacquer on a bench. "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously." - Noam Chompsky - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:22:27 +0200 From: Hamburg Robbert <95100526@student.sem.hhs.nl> Subject: [mitnick] CHAT ABOUT MITNICK HERE !! Hi it's me again. I have devoloped something new. You can chat on my homepage about Kevin and all other sort of subject containing kevin. Please come and check it out. http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8495 It's really worth to pay a visit. Robbert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 06:45:56 -0400 From: che guevara Subject: Re: [mitnick] CHAT ABOUT MITNICK HERE !! i think most people like irc better...which reminds me: why is no one ever at #freekevin or #kevinmitnick on efnet? Hamburg Robbert wrote: > Hi it's me again. > > I have devoloped something new. You can chat on my homepage about > Kevin and all other sort of subject containing kevin. Please come and > check it out. > http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8495 > > It's really worth to pay a visit. > > Robbert - -- |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV | | will be fought with sticks and stones." | |----------------------------------------[ Albert Einstein ]---------------------------------------| |che guevara | I know you've | |che guevara's realm | come to kill me. | |FREE KEVIN! | Shoot, coward, you're | |aim: | only going to kill a | |irc (efnet): | man"-Che Guevara | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:05:16 -0400 From: gjones@raleigh.ibm.com Subject: Re: [mitnick]independentink after 24 hours... Thanks you my point exactly. The fact is he did it, who cares what program he used to do it with? What are they gonna do hack his hacked page? Scoo8@wave.home.com on 10-14-98 06:59:01 PM Please respond to mitnick@2600.com To: mitnick@2600.com cc: (bcc: Gregory Jones/NWSMEL) Subject: Re: [mitnick]independentink after 24 hours... gjones you make a realistic point, if somone digs a hole who really cares what shovel he used... it could be quite simply he altered the originol file caring only about what whould show up in a browser, leaving the "useless" meta tags gjones@raleigh.ibm.com wrote: > I don't think its a Hoax page. But I do want to say this, I don't > know who it was that said that they checked the > source code for this page and said that the person who hacked it used > front page express, and then went on to call him > an asshole for using it. But what fucking difference does it make if > he created a page using front page or if he wrote > the html himself? what program he used to re-write the web page is > irrelevant. The point is he did it!! > > klops@bigfoot.com on 10-13-98 03:29:37 PM > > Please respond to mitnick@2600.com > > To: mitnick@2600.com > cc: (bcc: Gregory Jones/NWSMEL) > Subject: [mitnick]independentink after 24 hours... > > is still up with the "hack" page. > I started to have a funning feeling that either the sysadmin there is > on > a pemenant vacation or it's a hoax just like the MS and whitehouse > pages > @ 2600 website. > -- klops ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:35:19 EDT From: JAKade@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] Uh, me in the news In a message dated 10/15/98 4:54:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ksandre@cyberportal.net writes: > > The full moon shines on the highway like fresh lacquer on a bench. > > "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously." - Noam Chompsky "Must the show go on? There must be some mistake... I didn't mean to let them take away my soul... Am I too old? Is it too late? Where has the feeling gone? And will I remember the song? The show must go on." - Must the Show Go On? - Pink Floyd - The Wall ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:20:00 -0400 From: "Zachary Armstrong" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Finally makeing progress JAKade@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/14/98 8:26:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > zarmstrong@emerson.k12.nj.us writes: > > > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:32:36 -0400 (EDT) > > From: Drew Sullivan > > To: zach armstrong > > Subject: Re: Kevin Mitnick > > > > Zach, > > > > Thank you for your email on the Kevin Mitnick issue. I no longer work > > for the Associated Press or cover this kind of issue. I have, however, > > sent a number of emails to the AP's reporters who would cover this > > issue. I have strongly encouraged them to look at the treatment Mitnick > > has received. I don't know if they will write a story or what they would > > say but I do believe that we must always look at what might be > > violations of someone's rights. I wish I could be of more assistance. I > > will continue to encourage all reporters I know to cover the issue. > > -drew > > Sounds like a great guy. How'd you find him? he was on the mitnick web page... one of the addesses of the "tell the Media or sumthing section FREE KEVIN ------------------------------ End of mitnick-digest V1 #177 *****************************