mitnick-digest Sunday, October 18 1998 Volume 01 : Number 179 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:54:23 -0400 From: gjones@raleigh.ibm.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] Kevin's possible ban from computers - --0__=LjxyN8ovJkmgKPBBJOM8I3TwMayiDuzbjGD5oQw12LmZ1cwB21Y4HrrB Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's what I call pushing it to the limit. "Well you see you honor I never hacked that site, I had some one do it for me. All I did was instruct him on how." compex@earthling.net on 10-16-98 12:33:38 AM Please respond to mitnick@2600.com To: mitnick@2600.com cc: (bcc: Gregory Jones/NWSMEL) Subject: [mitnick] Kevin's possible ban from computers If Kevin should get banned from using computers for awhile, I wonder if he could still LOOK at a computer screen if he just didn't touch the keyboard or mouse. Poulsen can't use a computer but he can write something by hand and then let someone else type it for his web-zine thing he does. 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Just look at an elementary school playground for a good example of this behavior. Probably resulting from a need to be accepted by the digital community, but with no real knowledge in the area, she pokes childish phun. Pity her, if nothing else. You will phind that most web sites that are "anti" Kevin, are so out of ignorance or jealousy. Don't let it bother you, they'll loose interest eventually. In other news&went out with some fliers, taking the word to the people. Had some people who were interested, some that weren't, and some who thought I was just panhandling for money. Another thing, when Kevin is eventually released from prison, his release is meant to introduce him back into society with the ability to function as an average citizen. With a new user registering on-line every five seconds, and all the jobs he is qualified for being in the computer industry, how can anyone honestly believe that restricting him from using computers will let him function (normally) in society? Every library, school, etc, that I've been to lately has a computer in it. Everyone I know uses the Internet. Do bank robbers not get to use the banking system anymore? No. He's served his time. If he commits another crime, he'll go to jail again, for a longer time. I think restricting, him, or anyone from using a computer should be considered cruel and unusual punishment. I'm out. ANTBOY ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:41:33 -0400 From: Mike Blaguszewski Subject: Re: [mitnick] forwarded mail On 10/15/98 at 8:22 PM, Zach Miller wrote: > >FREE KEVIN MITNIK! This government that was based on FREEDOM and the ideal > >that people are INNOCENT /BEFORE/ proven GUILTY. Is this the United States > >or is this CHINA!? Your own Secret Service has held him for OVER 3 YEARS > >without a bail hearing or a trial. I suggest you read > >'www.kevinmitnik.com' ASAP. Perhaps then you might see how this country > >has fallen. > > At least spell his name right!! and last I heard the President's secret > service was not involved. Not in the Mitnick case, but the Secret Service does have a bad track record with dealing with hackers, especially regarding Bernie S. and the Pentagon City fiasco. See: - Secret Service in general - Bernie S. Mike Blaguszewski ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:52:27 +0000 From: "Tim O'Neill" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Public Oppinion (Off topic Preaching) > The fliers are a great help, but >there has to be some way of getting major attention to Kevin's case. We might be teens, but we still are U.S. citizens. You can order all the bumper stickers and flyers you want, and it won't do a fu.k. If you want to get something done about this, write to your fu.king congressman. That won't do much, but it'll do a hell of a lot more than kill trees. Also, I made banners for Fujistu a few months ago. So I know this marketing person up there. Mailed her saying it could be potentially bad PR for Fujistu to continue with the [inflated] charges. If you've got contacts-- especially with politicans-- use 'em. Connections make something. A little 15 yr. old sticking bumper stickers all over cars in a parking lot that he paid $100 to buy will just make WD-40 sell more. - -->-Zterm ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ \\\Free Kevin///www.freekevin.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:57:56 +0000 From: "Tim O'Neill" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Kevin's possible ban from computers >I believe that the proposed supervised release restrictions will include a >clause that he will not be able to use a computer through a second party. >That is, if he sat behind someone and said, "Okay, type in XYZ" that would >be a violation and he could get sent back. uh... if you use that logic... well, just think about it this way: what is a computer? If it wasn't defined in a statement, then that means he would have to be stuck in the middle of nowhere with no cultural connection... most commands someone does is via a logical processing system (processor), and is at least via a 2nd party. - -->-Zterm +++++It's your right. Fight for his. www.freekevin.com^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:54:57 -0500 From: "XxGaLxX" Subject: Re: [mitnick] a damn hoe! i think i had TOO much fun writing her a bitchy letter about how she needed to use spell check and what sites to go to to get her facts straight. - ---------- > From: John Barleycorn > To: mitnick@2600.com > Subject: Re: [mitnick] a damn hoe! > Date: Thursday, October 15, 1998 9:57 PM > > On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:35:07 -0700 (PDT), "§mökê" > shot across phone lines and fiber optic cable worldwide at amazing > speeds: > > >alright don't get me wrong I belive that everybody is alwed to have > >there own opion, but win I say this page that complitly lafed and made > >fun of kevin mitnick i was pissed. I thought that i would be kind enof > >to share my info.Her webpage is > >http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Haven/6334/ > >& email is > >kevin_nobody@hotmail.com > > HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!! > Unintelligent belligerent drivel! > Reading the page she sounds more like a pissed x girlfriend, than a > siteowner upset over her page being hacked! > > dc.... > squatex@fdt.net > > FREE KEVIN MITNICK NOW! - www.kevinmitnick.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:25:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Macki Subject: [mitnick] Anti-Kevin It's also important to recognize a joke when you see one, some seemingly anti-kevin sites are really just there as a parody.. Some of the 'Screw Kevin' sites are pretty damn funny. In any eent, they're not to be taken seriously, i wouldn't waste your time trying to change any minds in that area, i don't think most o fthem even believe what they're writting, they're just looking for a reaction. ON a side note about this thread, I bleive the restrictions on what he could talk and write about were proposed in the Prosecution's proposed evidence reviewing conditions. --Macki On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 Antboy23@aol.com wrote: > Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:22:40 EDT > From: Antboy23@aol.com > Reply-To: mitnick@2600.com > To: mitnick@2600.com > Subject: [mitnick] misc > > In reference to Sabrina (the anti Kevin web site), most people fear what they > do not understand, and that fear is often manifested as ridicule. Just look at > an elementary school playground for a good example of this behavior. Probably > resulting from a need to be accepted by the digital community, but with no > real knowledge in the area, she pokes childish phun. Pity her, if nothing > else. You will phind that most web sites that are "anti" Kevin, are so out of > ignorance or jealousy. Don't let it bother you, they'll loose interest > eventually. > > In other news&went out with some fliers, taking the word to the people. Had > some people who were interested, some that weren't, and some who thought I was > just panhandling for money. > > Another thing, when Kevin is eventually released from prison, his release is > meant to introduce him back into society with the ability to function as an > average citizen. With a new user registering on-line every five seconds, and > all the jobs he is qualified for being in the computer industry, how can > anyone honestly believe that restricting him from using computers will let him > function (normally) in society? Every library, school, etc, that I've been to > lately has a computer in it. Everyone I know uses the Internet. Do bank > robbers not get to use the banking system anymore? No. He's served his time. > If he commits another crime, he'll go to jail again, for a longer time. I > think restricting, him, or anyone from using a computer should be considered > cruel and unusual punishment. I'm out. > > ANTBOY > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:43:41 -0700 (PDT) From: rOTTEN Subject: Re: [mitnick] Kevin's possible ban from computers On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Tim O'Neill wrote: > >I believe that the proposed supervised release restrictions will include a > >clause that he will not be able to use a computer through a second party. > >That is, if he sat behind someone and said, "Okay, type in XYZ" that would > >be a violation and he could get sent back. > > uh... if you use that logic... well, just think about it this way: what is a > computer? If it wasn't defined in a statement, then that means he would have > to be stuck in the middle of nowhere with no cultural connection... most > commands someone does is via a logical processing system (processor), and is > at least via a 2nd party. If it can be assumed that you're griping about my comment, you're bitching at the wrong person. These are restrictions that have already been conjured. It's just a matter of implementing them. Naturally Mark Stein (who I believe is writing the release restrictions, and who is also Poulsen's P.O.) would have to define what constitutes a computer. Poulsen made a note of asking permission to use various things like an ATM, a calculator, a car that contains a computer system, etc. A McDonald's cash register was out of the question so were the cash registers at a video store. So in summary what I meant, is that he would probably not be able to use an internet liasion like yours truly to access the online world. This would make him what...one of the top 10 people who have been effectively banned from the internet? Poulsen, Minor Threat, the guy who "killed" that woman via the Social Security administration, a small handful of others that I might not be aware of, and then Mitnick. Then again, if you're not bitching at me, but rather the restrictions, my apologies. <..rOTTEN..> nobody move, nobody get hurt error187(1) critical failure - - - - - - To do: 1) Purchase soundtrack from 'Permanent Midnight' 2) Forge in the smithy of my soul the uncreated conscience of my race. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 03:32:08 GMT From: squatex@fdt.net (John Barleycorn) Subject: Re: [mitnick] Kevin's possible ban from computers On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:43:41 -0700 (PDT), rOTTEN shot across phone lines and fiber optic cable worldwide at amazing speeds: >On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Tim O'Neill wrote: > >> >I believe that the proposed supervised release restrictions will include a >> >clause that he will not be able to use a computer through a second party. >> >That is, if he sat behind someone and said, "Okay, type in XYZ" that would >> >be a violation and he could get sent back. >> >> uh... if you use that logic... well, just think about it this way: what is a >> computer? If it wasn't defined in a statement, then that means he would have >> to be stuck in the middle of nowhere with no cultural connection... most >> commands someone does is via a logical processing system (processor), and is >> at least via a 2nd party. > >If it can be assumed that you're griping about my comment, you're bitching >at the wrong person. These are restrictions that have already been >conjured. It's just a matter of implementing them. > >Naturally Mark Stein (who I believe is writing the release >restrictions, and who is also Poulsen's P.O.) would have to define >what constitutes a computer. Poulsen made a note of asking permission to >use various things like an ATM, a calculator, a car that contains a >computer system, etc. A McDonald's cash register was out of the question >so were the cash registers at a video store. > >So in summary what I meant, is that he would probably not be able to use >an internet liasion like yours truly to access the online world. > >This would make him what...one of the top 10 people who have been >effectively banned from the internet? Poulsen, Minor Threat, the guy who >"killed" that woman via the Social Security administration, a small >handful of others that I might not be aware of, and then Mitnick. > >Then again, if you're not bitching at me, but rather the restrictions, my >apologies. > Just thougth id add something here: Isnt it rather odd that Justin Peterson (Agent Steal) was not bound to any such release conditions? I mean, of all the ppl in the world I want him farther from a terminal than anyone. dc.... squatex@fdt.net FREE KEVIN MITNICK NOW! - www.kevinmitnick.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:01:41 -0500 From: "XxGaLxX" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Kevin's possible ban from computers > > Just thougth id add something here: > Isnt it rather odd that Justin Peterson (Agent Steal) was not bound to > any such release conditions? I mean, of all the ppl in the world I > want him farther from a terminal than anyone. > > > dc.... > squatex@fdt.net > > FREE KEVIN MITNICK NOW! - www.kevinmitnick.com > It's not really rather odd. He helped the Feds, so they helped him out a little. He got out with a slap on the ass, and KM got fucked over. gal ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:17:30 +0000 From: kerry Subject: [mitnick] Responses to release conditions (June 97) http://www.kevinmitnick.com/trans062797.html has just been added (responses to release conditions) http://www.kevinmitnick.com/trans062797.html#conditions - reiteration of conditions of supervised release i think this part is relevant to one of the current threads on the list - - THREE, THAT THE DEFENDANT SHALL NOT ACCESS COMPUTERS, COMPUTER NETWORKS OR OTHER FORMS OF WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS HIMSELF OR THROUGH THIRD PARTIES. http://www.kevinmitnick.com/trans062797.html#computer_defn MR. RANDOLPH: MAY I SUGGEST ONE -- IF THE COURT AGREES WITH THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS IN OUR DEFINITION OF A COMPUTER, WE WERE GOING TO URGE THE COURT TO EXCLUDE ELECTRONIC DEVICES OR SYSTEMS WHICH CONTAIN COMPUTER CONTROLLED OR MICRO-PROCESSOR FUNCTIONS SUCH AS AUTOMOBILES, APPLIANCES, FAX MACHINES, COPY MACHINES. THE COURT: I KNOW YOU, MR. RANDOLPH. YOU DID NOT THINK OF THAT YOURSELF; DID YOU? http://www.kevinmitnick.com/trans062797.html#danger Judicial impartiality: I BELIEVE THAT MR. MITNICK REPRESENTS A DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY. I BELIEVE THAT. http://www.kevinmitnick.com/trans062797.html#painter - the govt's response; they think the conditions are perfectly appropriate. http://www.kevinmitnick.com/trans062797.html#laptop - Randolph's response, on uncertainty of future interpretations of the conditions ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:13:16 EDT From: BadGirlnLA@aol.com Subject: [mitnick] How Come? Look what these hackers did! And look how little time they served compared to Mitnick. Mitnick's proposed supervised probation restrictions are due to an extremely biased judge who should be removed from the case, and vindictive prosecutors who are hell-bent on making a name for themselves at Mitnick's expense. Groups like the Electronic Frontier Foundation, Ralph Nader's "The Center for Study of Responsive Law", ACLU, and many other human right's organizations are negligent for not getting involved. http://www.wired.com/news/print_version/politics/story/14856.html Click here for Sharp Electronics Mobilon Willie Nelson "Teatro". On sale now! updated 7:00 p.m. 16.Oct.98.PDT Rogue Hackers Gallery by Daryl Lindsey 8:35pm 4.Sep.98.PDT The investigation into Kevin Mitnick's alleged hacking crimes is just one recent example of the FBI cranking up its computer crimes investigations. In the wake of recent Pentagon network break-ins, which forced the hand of the US Justice Department and defense advisers to do serious network security soul searching, the feds are intensifying their efforts to halt computer crime. The number of pending FBI investigations into computer intrusions in 1998 has grown to 480, a 133 percent increase over 1997. Despite the hurdles investigators face tracking bit bandits, the Federal Bureau of Investigation has taken down some of the country's most notorious. Here's a rundown of memorable convictions in the past decade: ROBERT TAPPAN MORRIS Convicted in 1990 Sentence: three years probation, community service, fine Robert Morris' worm virus wrought such havoc on the Internet when it was unfurled on 2 November 1988 that curators at the Boston Computer Museum keep a copy in its historical collection. Morris, a scrappy 24-year-old Cornell University grad student, cited two inspirations behind his mischievous keying: Shockwave Rider by John Brunner -- a book about a gearhead warrior who tries to overthrow a network-dependent government by infesting its autocratic information arteries with a program called a "worm" -- and his own computer research. Reproducing like mosquitoes on a bayou in summer, Morris' worm caused millions of dollars in damage at infected universities, NASA, the military, and other federal government agencies, and choked about 10 percent of Internet traffic. One of the first big trials held after the passage of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1986, Morris was convicted in 1990 and sentenced to three years probation and 400 hours of community service. He was also fined US$10,000, and suspended from Cornell. LEGION OF DOOM Convicted in 1990 Sentences: 14 to 21 months in prison "Basically, they wanted to own 'Ma Bell,'" said Assistant US Attorney Kent Alexander, describing the hacking ambitions of the Atlanta branch of Legion of Doom to a Newsday reporter. The group, taking its cue from the villains of the popular Superfriends cartoon, turned BellSouth into their own Hall of Doom, hacking and copying the telco's 911 network. BellSouth sniffed out the group in 1990 and turned them over to the FBI. The Legion was also known for marginally less nefarious hacks: breaking into phone company computers, seizing phone lines, and eavesdropping on phone conversations. Two Legion members were convicted of conspiracy and another for possession of illegal access devices and intent to defraud. Franklin Darden, 24, and Adam Grant, 22, both got 14-month prison sentences; Robert Riggs, 22, got 21 months. The network-menacing triumvirate were also forced to pay US$223,000 in restitution. KEVIN POULSEN Convicted in 1991 Sentence: four years in prison, three-year ban from computer use, fine Armed with the "Trash-80" his parents gave him, Dark Dante (Kevin Poulsen) was adept at trespassing ARPANET and other government and private networks. Still a teen when first caught in 1983, Poulsen was offered the typical post-hacker glam job as a security expert with hush-hush government-contractor SRI International in Menlo Park, California. Poulsen spent his evenings hacking and breaking into Pacific Bell's innermost nodes. Unlike most of his contemporaries, Poulsen was a bit of a cheater -- he was an ace at picking locks, and would break into phone company offices and steal gear and manuals that would provide guides to the network once he hacked it. He was charged with computer crimes, espionage (a charge later dropped), and telephone fraud in 1990, but taunted prosecutors with his hacking prowess and evaded arrest for 17 months. On the lam, Poulsen seized control of the phone lines at a Los Angeles radio station to win a convertible Porsche and trips to Hawaii. The feds extinguished Dark Dante's inferno in 1991. Poulsen was tried and convicted of computer crimes in relation to his new-found Porsche fetish and given the harshest hacker sentence ever: four years in prison, a US $58,000 fine, and a ban from using computers for three years after his release. MASTERS OF DECEPTION Convicted in 1992 Sentences: six months to one year in prison, community service, probation Operating out of Brooklyn and Queens in New York, the ethnically diverse Masters of Deception sought empowerment and street cred by hacking the networks of blue-chip corporations (including AT&T, Bank of America, and TRW) and the National Security Agency, using disarmingly primitive tools, like Commodore 64 computers. Five members of MOD were tried for computer intrusions and stealing confidential information from credit reports. Convicted in 1992, celebrated Phiber Optik (Mark Abene) was sentenced to one year in jail. Acid Phreak (Eli Ladopoulos) and Scorpion (Paul Stira), were given six-month sentences, community services, and probation. Corrupt (John Lee) was sent to prison for a year. Outlaw (Julio Fernandez) avoided jail time by cooperating with investigators. All were under 22 at the time of their indictment. New York city gave Phiber Optik a homecoming worthy of king when he got released from jail: fellow hackers feted him, and New York magazine named him one of the city's 100 smartest people. JUSTIN TANNER PETERSEN Convicted in 1995 Sentence: 3.5 years in prison, restricted use of computers for three years, fine Agent Steal, as the fast-car and bondage-loving scammer Justin Petersen was known in the hacker community, was arrested in 1993. He pleaded guilty to computer fraud charges for his efforts in rigging the same "Win a Porsche by Friday" radio contest as Kevin Poulsen, and digitally pickpocketing US$150,000 from a Glendale, California, financial services company. Petersen, then 32, agreed to rat on Poulsen and help prosecutors hunt other hackers in exchange for lenient treatment. He even helped agents bust Kevin Mitnick on a parole violation. But Petersen fled when the FBI caught him hacking again -- he was illegally tapping into banks while working with prosecutors. When he was finally convicted in 1995, he was sentenced to three-and-a-half years in prison, three years probation that allowed him to use computers only at work, and ordered to pay more than US$40,000 restitution. Petersen returned to jail this summer for parole violations. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:25:04 -0400 From: ScooB Subject: [mitnick] hack? http://blackwidow.saultc.on.ca/ i came across http://blackwidow.saultc.on.ca/ and at the VERY bottom is the phraze "And h3ll isn't it ab0ut tim3 t0 fr33 Kevin Mitnick?" this isn't a hack specifically for kevin or it would be at the top and most likely thats ALL that would be on there... well maybe someone cares... scoob [ip] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:30:21 EDT From: Phoenxknt@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] How Come? In a message dated 98-10-17 12:27:29 EDT, you write: << JUSTIN TANNER PETERSEN Convicted in 1995 Sentence: 3.5 years in prison, restricted use of computers for three years, fine Agent Steal, as the fast-car and bondage-loving scammer Justin Petersen was known in the hacker community, was arrested in 1993. He pleaded guilty to computer fraud charges for his efforts in rigging the same "Win a Porsche by Friday" radio contest as Kevin Poulsen, and digitally pickpocketing US$150,000 from a Glendale, California, financial services company. Petersen, then 32, agreed to rat on Poulsen and help prosecutors hunt other hackers in exchange for lenient treatment. He even helped agents bust Kevin Mitnick on a parole violation. But Petersen fled when the FBI caught him hacking again -- he was illegally tapping into banks while working with prosecutors. When he was finally convicted in 1995, he was sentenced to three-and-a-half years in prison, three years probation that allowed him to use computers only at work, and ordered to pay more than US$40,000 restitution. Petersen returned to jail this summer for parole violations. >> Don't you just hate this guy? Then he goes and says "I've never called myself a hacker" Dumb lil freak i tell you - -AM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:27:36 -0700 From: Caliban Tiresias Darklock Subject: Re: [mitnick] How Come? On 12:13 PM 10/17/98 -0400, I personally witnessed BadGirlnLA@aol.com jumping up to say: > >Look what these hackers did! And look how little time they served >compared to Mitnick. #ifdef DEVILS_ADVOCATE Computers were neither as ubiquitous nor as crucial in everyday society at the times of the listed offenses. Therefore, the magnitude of the crimes was significantly lower in comparison. #endif /* DEVILS_ADVOCATE */ By the same token, since computers *are* so much more ubiquitous and crucial, the restrictions placed on Kevin are significantly more binding and less acceptable than they would have been at the time of his arrest. >Groups like the >Electronic Frontier Foundation, Ralph Nader's "The Center for Study >of Responsive Law", ACLU, and many other human right's >organizations are negligent for not getting involved. Amen. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- As the fire burneth a wood, and the flame setteth the mountains on fire; So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm. - ---------------------------[ Psalms, 83:14-15 ]--------------------------- Caliban Tiresias Darklock | "Hell, you don't Darklock Communications | know me." FREE KEVIN MITNICK! | - Charles Manson - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- And remember, if you don't kiss Hank's ass he'll kick the shit out of you. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:41:14 EDT From: BackRowSka@aol.com Subject: [mitnick] Little Footer in Inc. Magazine about kevin I was eating my nice barbeque chicken when low and behold "There aren't a lot of folks out there with posters of ace hacker Kevin Mitnick on their cublicle walls". This appeared in the new issue of Inc. Technology magazine under the Bulletin Board section near the front of the magazine. If anyone wants to see the issue it has a big lowercase e on the front cover. The full text of the update is: Crimes And Misdemeanors Want Proof of the banality of evil? In a recent survey of American workers, 45% fessed up to one or more unethical actions relating to new technology. But based on their responses there aren't a lot of folks out there with posters of ace hacker Kevin Mitnick on their cublicle walls. Source:American Society of Charted Life Underwriters. It also has a little picture on the side of a typical robber, with the Batman mask. What They Are Doing Wrong Unethical Behavior Workers Admitting To It Creating a Potentially Dangerous 19% Situation by using new technology while driving Wrongly Blaming an error you made 14% on a technical glitch Using office equipment to do 13% personal shopping on the Internet Copying company software for 13% home use ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:04:56 -0400 From: "Tim O'Neill" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Little Footer in Inc. Magazine about kevin Mainstream writers suck when they try to enter the tech scene. They're lost, ignorrant, and don't have a fu.k of what they are talking about. They tried to somehow tie in "Boss, I don't have the report in today because the network was down" lies with humanitarian rights? People are stupid bastards, and there's nothing you or I can about it to change that. - ->-->-Ztrerm >I was eating my nice barbeque chicken when low and behold "There aren't a lot >of folks out there with posters of ace hacker Kevin Mitnick on their cublicle >walls". This appeared in the new issue of Inc. Technology magazine under the >Bulletin Board section near the front of the magazine. If anyone wants to see >the issue it has a big lowercase e on the front cover. The full text of the >update is: > >Crimes And Misdemeanors > >Want Proof of the banality of evil? In a recent survey of American workers, >45% fessed up to one or more unethical actions relating to new technology. But >based on their responses there aren't a lot of folks out there with posters of >ace hacker Kevin Mitnick on their cublicle walls. Source:American Society of >Charted Life Underwriters. > >It also has a little picture on the side of a typical robber, with the Batman >mask. >What They Are Doing Wrong >Unethical Behavior Workers Admitting To It > >Creating a Potentially Dangerous 19% >Situation by using new technology >while driving > >Wrongly Blaming an error you made 14% >on a technical glitch > >Using office equipment to do 13% >personal shopping on the Internet > >Copying company software for 13% >home use ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:13:07 -0600 From: "Kevin Joubert" Subject: [mitnick] Mitnick Merch. Order form This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BDFA1B.51D95320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is an amended copy of the order form on Telephreak's page: Kevin - -----Original Message----- From: ksandre To: mitnick@2600.com Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 5:15 AM Subject: Re: [mitnick] Mitnick Merchandise >Could you post again to this list a price list of _your_ Mitnick-Merch >that will actually have money donated to his Defense Fund? (Like an >text advertisement or something.) > > - ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BDFA1B.51D95320 Content-Type: text/plain; name="order.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="order.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mitnick Merchandise Order Form Items/Prices: 1. Short Sleeve T-Shirt - $15 2. Long Sleeve T-Shirt - $18 5. Ink Pens - $1.00/each-must order at least 5. 6. Pencils - $.50/each-must order at least 10. For more information on a specific item please goto http://phonerangers.home.ml.org in the 'Mitnick Merchandise' section. Item | Quantity | Prices Added Up - ------------------------|------------------|---------------------- 1.Short Sleeve T-Shirt | | - ------------------------|------------------|---------------------- 2. Long Sleeve T-Shirt | | - ------------------------|------------------|---------------------- 3. | | - ------------------------|------------------|---------------------- 4. | | - ------------------------|------------------|---------------------- 5. Ink Pens | | - ------------------------|------------------|---------------------- 6. Pencils | | - ------------------------|------------------|---------------------- 7. | | - ------------------------|------------------|---------------------- |Total Of All Items Ordered - | |-----------------------------|---------------------- All checks should be made out to KEVIN JOUBERT and sent to the following address: Kevin Mitnick Fund c/o Kevin Joubert 6120 Fescue Drive Colorado Springs, CO 80918 - -Thanks! - ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BDFA1B.51D95320-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 09:20:06 +0000 From: kerry Subject: [mitnick] Financial info update Any of you who have been helping check out the financial info for the "victim" companies involved in the Mitnick case (http://www.kevinmitnick.com/cory.html), this advice may help. A visitor to the page sent it in. Please go look thru some of these financial documents if you haven't; it would help a lot -- even if you know nothing about finance and stocks. Financial disclosure info (stock ownership etc.) has been requested for judiciaries involved in Kevin's case to ensure there are no conflicts of interest. But we still don't see how the alleged "losses" suffered by the companies got as incredibly high as $80 million. These companies didn't lose anything close to that, but we have to be able to show that it's a bullshit claim in order to do anything about it, and we don't have a lot of time to act. - --------------------------------------------------------------- The place you should find any information about any material losses by any of the claimed reporting companies is in Part II, Item 7 of the 10-K. Item 303(a)(3) of Regulation S-K requires the inclusion in a 10-K of a management discussion and analysis of any unusual or infrequent events which "materially" affected the amount of reported income from operations and the extent to which income was so affected. Any damages caused by Kevin Mitnick would clearly affect income from operations and would clearly be deemed "unusual" or "infrequent" so it should be discussed in this area of the report. However, the damages must be "material" before it is required to be reported. Regulation S-X defines "material" as any matter or $ amount "which an average prudent investor ought reasonably be informed." What is "material" will be different for each reporting company. However, it usually relates to the amount of net income earned. By reviewing the discussions of other matters these entities have listed as "material" in Item 7 will give you a good idea for what is "material" and any claims of damages in excess of the amount of other items which are discussed would either be false as far as the reporting company is concerned or mean the reporting company has violated the federal securities laws by making a false filing. - -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 10:01:44 -0400 (EDT) From: ksandre Subject: Re: [mitnick] Little Footer in Inc. Magazine about kevin On Sat, 17 Oct 1998, Tim O'Neill wrote: > Mainstream writers suck when they try to enter the tech scene. They're lost, > ignorrant, and don't have a fu.k of what they are talking about. > > They tried to somehow tie in "Boss, I don't have the report in today because > the network was down" lies with humanitarian rights? People are stupid > bastards, and there's nothing you or I can about it to change that. > Letters-To-The-Editor sometimes get printed. That helps bring more awareness (especially when the URLs get included). ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:15:20 -0400 From: "John" Subject: RE: [mitnick] Little Footer in Inc. Magazine about kevin Not to sound like a dick, but I need to unsubscribe this email from this list. (dont worry, i will subscribe another one.. just not this one :) ) Unfortunately, I cant find info on how to do it. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mitnick@2600.com [mailto:owner-mitnick@2600.com]On Behalf Of > ksandre > Sent: Sunday, October 18, 1998 10:02 AM > To: mitnick@2600.com > Subject: Re: [mitnick] Little Footer in Inc. Magazine about kevin > > > On Sat, 17 Oct 1998, Tim O'Neill wrote: > > Mainstream writers suck when they try to enter the tech scene. > They're lost, > > ignorrant, and don't have a fu.k of what they are talking about. > > > > They tried to somehow tie in "Boss, I don't have the report in > today because > > the network was down" lies with humanitarian rights? People are stupid > > bastards, and there's nothing you or I can about it to change that. > > > > Letters-To-The-Editor sometimes get printed. That helps bring more > awareness (especially when the URLs get included). > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1988 11:17:07 -0700 From: bliss Subject: [mitnick] unsubscribe unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 17:55:55 -0500 From: Zach Miller Subject: Re: [mitnick] Little Footer in Inc. Magazine about kevin Info was given in the verification message when you first subscribed, and its in the headers of every email on the list John wrote: > Not to sound like a dick, but I need to unsubscribe this email from this > list. (dont worry, i will subscribe another one.. just not this one :) ) > Unfortunately, I cant find info on how to do it. ------------------------------ End of mitnick-digest V1 #179 *****************************