mitnick-digest Friday, October 23 1998 Volume 01 : Number 182 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:26:43 EDT From: Sacrosantx@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] another display of justice in america Is this the case your thinking of? Two honors college students David Cash and Jeremy Strohmeyer. Both; were in vegas and were up late one night in a casino. Jeremy; saw a young girl (Sherrice Iverson) and leaded her into the men's bathroom. He then took the girl into a stall; (while David Cash was watching) where he raped and killed the 7 year old. David decided to leave, (not telling Jeremy to stop or anything). After a long time; Jeremy came out and they wen't gambling some more. They wen't back to their lives; and Jeremy even bragged about it because he thought he would get more woman. Anyways; David Cash was let go; because there was no "Good Samaritan" law. Jeremy I believe just got his trial. .. I'll get his trial info to relate to Kevin. (Bail hearing etc). Now David Cash goes to UC Berkely in Nuclear Physics I believe, and people are rallying' to and protesting to get him removed. (The 7 year old's mother included). The dean of the University has already said that they can't remove him because he didn't save the girl. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:47:02 -0400 From: RaZ Subject: Re: [mitnick] Takedown script jsz was the Israeli hacker that Mitnick (supposedly, i think) talked to through a Netcom computer Bachrach wrote: > >Kevin and jsz speculate that it looks as though Shim wrote his evil > >stealth > >virus code - not for big brother, but just "Because he can"... > > jsz=? Did they change depayne's name or something? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:37:34 -0400 From: che guevara Subject: Re: [mitnick] another display of justice in america there u go Sacrosantx@aol.com wrote: > Is this the case your thinking of? > > Two honors college students David Cash and Jeremy Strohmeyer. > > Both; were in vegas and were up late one night in a casino. Jeremy; saw a > young girl (Sherrice Iverson) and leaded her into the men's bathroom. He then > took the girl into a stall; (while David Cash was watching) where he raped and > killed the 7 year old. David decided to leave, (not telling Jeremy to stop or > anything). After a long time; Jeremy came out and they wen't gambling some > more. They wen't back to their lives; and Jeremy even bragged about it > because he thought he would get more woman. Anyways; David Cash was let go; > because there was no "Good Samaritan" > law. Jeremy I believe just got his trial. .. I'll get his trial info to > relate to Kevin. (Bail hearing etc). Now David Cash goes to UC Berkely in > Nuclear Physics I believe, and people are rallying' to and protesting to get > him removed. (The 7 year old's mother included). The dean of the University > has already said that they can't remove him because he didn't save the girl. - -- che guevara "I know you've come to kill me. Shoot, coward, you're only going to kill a man" [Che Guevara] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:07:07 EDT From: Phoenxknt@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] access In a message dated 98-10-20 19:12:12 EDT, you write: << can someone tell me that if i access my school's network from my home computer using either my assigned id or 'guest', would that be illegal? -- >> Depends, is the dialup considered Public or do they hide it....and if it's your account i doubt they'll care - -AM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:23:20 -0400 From: che guevara Subject: Re: [mitnick] access no..it's not dialup...i connect to my isp then port to the ip from there Phoenxknt@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 98-10-20 19:12:12 EDT, you write: > > << can someone tell me that if i access my school's network from my home > computer using either my assigned id or 'guest', would that be illegal? > -- >> > > Depends, is the dialup considered Public or do they hide it....and if it's > your account i doubt they'll care > > -AM - -- che guevara "I know you've come to kill me. Shoot, coward, you're only going to kill a man" [Che Guevara] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:29:29 EDT From: Phoenxknt@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] access I"m not sure, depends on what the do to secure the IP addrss from people In a message dated 98-10-21 18:27:43 EDT, you write: << no..it's not dialup...i connect to my isp then port to the ip from there Phoenxknt@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 98-10-20 19:12:12 EDT, you write: > > << can someone tell me that if i access my school's network from my home > computer using either my assigned id or 'guest', would that be illegal? > -- >> > > Depends, is the dialup considered Public or do they hide it....and if it's > your account i doubt they'll care > > -AM -- che guevara "I know you've come to kill me. Shoot, coward, you're only going to kill a man" [Che Guevara] >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:39:14 -0700 From: The Bri Man Subject: Re: [mitnick] access At 15:23 10/21/98 , you wrote: >no..it's not dialup...i connect to my isp then port to the ip from there > (snip) well, the main question is do you have permission from the admins, etc and what youre gonna do on it... if you were to ask the admin and explained why they would probably say its ok. if not, go ahead and do it illegally. latez, peace. *BRaiN KaNDy* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:31:08 -0400 From: che guevara Subject: Re: [mitnick] access kewl...i'll email her tonite The Bri Man wrote: > At 15:23 10/21/98 , you wrote: > >no..it's not dialup...i connect to my isp then port to the ip from there > > > (snip) > > well, the main question is do you have permission from the admins, etc and > what youre gonna do on it... > > if you were to ask the admin and explained why they would probably say its > ok. if not, go ahead and do it illegally. > > latez, peace. > > *BRaiN KaNDy* > > > > - -- che guevara "I know you've come to kill me. Shoot, coward, you're only going to kill a man" [Che Guevara] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:20:36 -0700 From: hugh field Subject: Re: [mitnick] access Or you could not mail the admin and if you are ever caught could then claim ignorence. If you ask the admin, they say no, and you do it anyway, then you are probably breaking some laws. ~hugh field (DarkJedi) che guevara wrote: > > kewl...i'll email her tonite > > The Bri Man wrote: > > > At 15:23 10/21/98 , you wrote: > > >no..it's not dialup...i connect to my isp then port to the ip from there > > > > > (snip) > > > > well, the main question is do you have permission from the admins, etc and > > what youre gonna do on it... > > > > if you were to ask the admin and explained why they would probably say its > > ok. if not, go ahead and do it illegally. > > > > latez, peace. > > > > *BRaiN KaNDy* > > > > > > > > > > -- > che guevara > > > > > "I know you've come to kill me. > Shoot, coward, you're only > going to kill a man" > [Che Guevara] - -- ********************************hugh field****************************** | redtide@serve.com | PGP public key @ www.serve.com/redtide/pgp.txt | ************************************************************************ | God: "If I were to tell you that there is an army of angels waiting | | in Heaven, and on the Day of Judgement they will be unleashed upon | | the world to slay all the unbelievers, what would your response be?" | | Response: "Pre-emptive nuclear strike." | ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:32:48 EDT From: Phoenxknt@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] access Computer Crime, hasn't EVERYONE claimed ignorance when accussed of it? heheh Later - -Absolute Matter In a message dated 98-10-21 20:24:47 EDT, you write: << Or you could not mail the admin and if you are ever caught could then claim ignorence. If you ask the admin, they say no, and you do it anyway, then you are probably breaking some laws. ~hugh field (DarkJedi) >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:48:24 -0500 From: "XxGaLxX" Subject: Re: [mitnick] access but if it's like at our school, its a kid from the school, and doesn't give a shit about what you do. - ---------- > From: hugh field > To: mitnick@2600.com > Subject: Re: [mitnick] access > Date: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 7:20 PM > > Or you could not mail the admin and if you are ever caught could then > claim ignorence. If you ask the admin, they say no, and you do it > anyway, then you are probably breaking some laws. > > ~hugh field (DarkJedi) > > che guevara wrote: > > > > kewl...i'll email her tonite > > > > The Bri Man wrote: > > > > > At 15:23 10/21/98 , you wrote: > > > >no..it's not dialup...i connect to my isp then port to the ip from there > > > > > > > (snip) > > > > > > well, the main question is do you have permission from the admins, etc and > > > what youre gonna do on it... > > > > > > if you were to ask the admin and explained why they would probably say its > > > ok. if not, go ahead and do it illegally. > > > > > > latez, peace. > > > > > > *BRaiN KaNDy* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > che guevara > > > > > > > > > > "I know you've come to kill me. > > Shoot, coward, you're only > > going to kill a man" > > [Che Guevara] > > -- > ********************************hugh field****************************** > | redtide@serve.com | PGP public key @ www.serve.com/redtide/pgp.txt | > ************************************************************************ > | God: "If I were to tell you that there is an army of angels waiting | > | in Heaven, and on the Day of Judgement they will be unleashed upon | > | the world to slay all the unbelievers, what would your response be?" | > | Response: "Pre-emptive nuclear strike." | > ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:20:21 -0700 From: The Bri Man Subject: Re: [mitnick] access At 18:48 10/21/98 , you wrote: >but if it's like at our school, its a kid from the school, and doesn't give >a shit about what you do. > (snip) well, that may be the case at the school where you attend(ed), but some schools have CRAZY security shit. For example, at my school, since I am somewhat computer genius and know more than others in the field of computers, and have so much info about the school, I am seen in the wrong light. They figure I am smart, have a laptop that I bring daily and have knowlege of their computers, i am automatically marked "HACKER!!!!". My friend was almost not let into my school because he was MY friend, and the school also marks my FRIENDS as HACKERS. Strange isnt it? Well, just proving a point that some schools are a bit more heavy about that shit than others. 1 last thing, I bought a hub just recently, because the number of network ports is minimal at school, and a 10-port hub would support me and my friends nicely. Well, the school thought the same thing, only in the WRONG LIGHT. They said "oh yeah, get your hub so that you and all your friends can collaborate in the same place while hacking the server." Oh, so much fuckin PARANOIA! Get a grip, fuckers!!!! aiight, i seem to be bitchin on now, better end this fast. Oh and by the way, I really think that this is NOT on topic, and should die soon. No offense che, just saying that it seems to be the only topic at this time. Um, by the way, lets open a thread or 2 about protests, stickers, flyers, stuff we can do, info on Takedown, the movie, and maybe even somthing about maybe 2600 or the meetings, because !hey! it ties in, KM-hacker, 2600, Hacker Mag. Good connection. aiight, no more blabbering. peace out. *BRaiN KaNDy* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 02:41:23 -0400 (EDT) From: ksandre Subject: Re: [mitnick] USA Report [Rights For All] - Amnesty InterNational On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Tim O'Neill wrote: > > Ever since I found out about this case, my first thought was: Where's > Amnesty in all of this? > That's just what I asked in their email option when I visited the site. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:46:05 -0400 From: che guevara Subject: [mitnick] that guy who was spoofing koolwip that guy that was spoofing koolwip is buggin me now. he is g00b3r on efnet i tried to /whois him but he already signed off this is what he told me: *g00b3r* you're gay. your faggotass is NOT welcome on the mitnick mailing list, fag. This is your ONLY warning. Unsubscribe now, or there will be some major spoofing, and it will be coming from your e-mail. Remember what I did to koolwip? He's not around anymore. I wonder why? hahahahahahaha. what shall i do? - -- che guevara "I know you've come to kill me. Shoot, coward, you're only going to kill a man" [Che Guevara] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:18:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Aaron D. Ball" Subject: Re: [mitnick] that guy who was spoofing koolwip On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, che guevara wrote: % what shall i do? If you're truly concerned about such an idiot, try using PGP to sign your messages. But I wouldn't worry about it -- "g00b3r" looks to be the sort of luser "hacker" that downloads a ready-made mail-forging program for his k-r@d Lose98 box and brags about it to his 3133+ friends, and his forgeries were primitive enough that a quick glance at the headers (never mind the content) of his messages gave them the lie. That piece of shit isn't even worth the effort of imbedding +++ATH0 in this message. And yes, I *am* intentionally trying to provoke the abovementioned waste of skin, if it happens to actually be on the list. Bring on the flames! (But privately, please.)(Not that saying that's going to make any difference.) - -- [Aaron D. Ball ]Fortune sez: "Sorry, fresh out of fortunes." perl -e'$_="GAT d>!s+:a19>?C++(++++)ULBS++(-)>++++P++++\$L+++E>+++W++(--)N++o+>+ +K++w---O-M+V--PS+++PE\@Y+PGP>+++t+5 X+R?>+tv--b+++DI++++D+G+++E>++++h*r?y+*";s; ;;;s;(\W)(\w);$1 $2;g;print"Just Another Perl Hacker and his Geek Code:\n$_\n";' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:17:51 -0500 From: "XxGaLxX" Subject: Re: [mitnick] that guy who was spoofing koolwip ignore him, who the fuck cares about some loser that has no life except to do lame spoofing to people he doesn't even know? gal - ---------- > From: che guevara > To: mitnick@2600.com > Subject: [mitnick] that guy who was spoofing koolwip > Date: Thursday, October 22, 1998 4:46 PM > > that guy that was spoofing koolwip is buggin me now. > he is g00b3r on efnet > i tried to /whois him but he already signed off > this is what he told me: > *g00b3r* you're gay. your faggotass is NOT welcome on the mitnick > mailing list, fag. This is your ONLY warning. Unsubscribe now, or there > will be some major spoofing, and it will be coming from your e-mail. > Remember what I did to koolwip? He's not around anymore. I wonder why? > hahahahahahaha. > > what shall i do? > -- > che guevara > > > > > "I know you've come to kill me. > Shoot, coward, you're only > going to kill a man" > [Che Guevara] > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:44:15 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:06:02 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:06:21 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:06:07 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:47:33 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:02:51 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:03:07 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:02:50 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:05:55 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:02:57 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:03:01 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:06:57 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:05:45 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:05:16 -0400 (EDT) From: owner-mitnick@2600.com Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:03:15 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:47:38 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:05:39 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:03:14 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:05:42 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:03:11 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:02:49 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:03:09 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:06:42 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:06:29 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:03:07 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:06:14 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:06:53 -0400 (EDT) From: koolwip spoofer Subject: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:50:02 EDT From: Phoenxknt@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next In a message dated 98-10-22 23:48:27 EDT, you write: << hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have working on my skill so better watch out!!!! >> Spoof me bastage, cuz even tho aol sucks, it DOES prosecute for just about anything.... in the words of JOSHUA "Would you like to play a game?" - -Absolute Matter ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:58:57 +0000 From: kerry Subject: [mitnick] mdc mail troubles Last week i sent kevin printouts of some pages from his site, a couple of harmless emails and a network magazine and some book reviews, and i just found out he got none of it -- they took everything out of the envelope and put a book about the new world order in it and gave it to him instead. Don't stop sending him stuff, just be aware they can keep it out of his hands or make him think you sent something else altogether if they want. If you've sent him stuff recently and you want to make sure he got it, email me and i'll ask if he ever got it. Pisses me off, altho i expected it. Everything else i've ever sent got thru. kerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:47:50 -0700 From: "Paul Hsieh" Subject: Re: [mitnick] that guy who was spoofing koolwip > that guy that was spoofing koolwip is buggin me now. > he is g00b3r on efnet > i tried to /whois him but he already signed off > this is what he told me: > *g00b3r* you're gay. your faggotass is NOT welcome on the mitnick > mailing list, fag. This is your ONLY warning. Unsubscribe now, or there > will be some major spoofing, and it will be coming from your e-mail. > Remember what I did to koolwip? He's not around anymore. I wonder why? > hahahahahahaha. You should take deep personal offense. After all, with his obvious deep knowledge and insight into your person the credibility of his comments will obviously cause you great loss of status. (His 3l33t handle only serves to bolster his case.) After a comment like this, you may find yourself beyond recovery. I mean people really are going to think of you as a faggotass. It'll probably be a label you are stuck with for the rest of your life. We will pray for you. - -- Paul Hsieh qed@pobox.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:13:08 -0400 (EDT) From: ksandre Subject: Re: [mitnick] mdc mail troubles On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, kerry wrote: > Last week i sent kevin printouts of some pages from his site, a couple > of harmless emails and a network magazine and some book reviews, and i > just found out he got none of it -- they took everything out of the WOW. I hope everyone documents these events and reports them to the ACLU and whatever official authorities exist. Is tampering with US Mail _not_ an offense for Prison Guards? (I know they have to _inspect_ it for contraband, but actually changing the content like that seems really amiss. Maybe it was just a mix-up and Kevin's things went to the person who was expecting a 'new world order' book? Just wishful thinking....) > envelope and put a book about the new world order in it and gave it to Just out of curiousity, what was the name of the book they gave him? > him instead. Don't stop sending him stuff, just be aware they can keep > it out of his hands or make him think you sent something else altogether > if they want. > > If you've sent him stuff recently and you want to make sure he got it, > email me and i'll ask if he ever got it. Pisses me off, altho i > expected it. Everything else i've ever sent got thru. Is this the first instance of this that Kevin has reported? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 06:33:37 -0400 From: che guevara Subject: Re: [mitnick] that guy who was spoofing koolwip - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 i mean i really don't care that that asshole thinks he's gonna spoof me cause i'll sign all my messages w/ my pgp key so u'll know that it's me the thing that scares me is that he got me on irc Paul Hsieh wrote: > that guy that was spoofing koolwip is buggin me now. > he is g00b3r on efnet > i tried to /whois him but he already signed off > this is what he told me: > *g00b3r* you're gay. your faggotass is NOT welcome on the mitnick > mailing list, fag. This is your ONLY warning. Unsubscribe now, or there > will be some major spoofing, and it will be coming from your e-mail. > Remember what I did to koolwip? He's not around anymore. I wonder why? > hahahahahahaha. You should take deep personal offense. After all, with his obvious deep knowledge and insight into your person the credibility of his comments will obviously cause you great loss of status. (His 3l33t handle only serves to bolster his case.) After a comment like this, you may find yourself beyond recovery. I mean people really are going to think of you as a faggotass. It'll probably be a label you are stuck with for the rest of your life. We will pray for you. -- Paul Hsieh qed@pobox.com - - -- che guevara "I know you've come to kill me. Shoot, coward, you're only going to kill a man" [Che Guevara] - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0 for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNjBbeHl9rs+kTRROEQLHRACg8i8kHl1QONNth1VOGjSKSMuLdFUAnjCi ywBdp+bur+kDL/BHPV3gMpgt =u0zn - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:25:57 -0500 (CDT) From: teo82@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next On 10/22/98 23:44:15 you wrote: > >hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am >going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have >working on my skill so better watch out!!!! > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ooh every one is soo scared. you should learn proper english before you even think of threatening people. Thomas E. O'Grady A.K.A. Crazed Dante Teo82@ix.netcom.com or Rascal14@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:16:29 -0400 From: gjones@raleigh.ibm.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next Last time I checked this was the Kevin Mitnick Mailing list, right? Not the who is spoofing who list. If I'm on the wrong one let me know. teo82@ix.netcom.com on 10-23-98 03:25:57 PM Please respond to mitnick@2600.com To: mitnick@2600.com cc: (bcc: Gregory Jones/NWSMEL) Subject: Re: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next On 10/22/98 23:44:15 you wrote: > >hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am >going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have >working on my skill so better watch out!!!! > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ooh every one is soo scared. you should learn proper english before you even think of threatening people. Thomas E. O'Grady A.K.A. Crazed Dante Teo82@ix.netcom.com or Rascal14@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 17:00:00 -0400 From: "Bachrach" Subject: Re: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next - -----Original Message----- From: teo82@ix.netcom.com To: mitnick@2600.com Date: Friday, October 23, 1998 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [mitnick] koolwip wuz first, you are next >On 10/22/98 23:44:15 you wrote: >> >>hello i am the person who spoofed koolwip next i am >>going to spoof any you who make me mad. and i have >>working on my skill so better watch out!!!! Ahahahahahaha! he's been *gasp* working on his skills! oh no! That gut has the "skills" of a three toed sloth on morphine. He couldn't forge a decent message the first time, and all he knows how to do is change the reply-to and from fields, which anyone can do simply by changing their prefrences. I'll bet he doesn't even know a single SMTP command to forge a decent message. Hell, I'll bet he doesn't even know what SMTP is. We all know how to spot forgeries. If one comes along, we'll simply trace it and report it to his ISP. Incidentally little AOLamers like this post to places like alt.2600 all the time trying to get someone else flamed. It never works and they just get insulted. Most of the time they also get tracked down and occasionally lose their accounts. I actually doubt that this guy is the one who forged the koolwhip posts, the attitude just isn't the same. (yes, I do hack by gut feeling, and recently I've been about 8 for 10..) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 17:15:48 -0400 From: kerry Subject: Re: [mitnick] mdc mail troubles Who knows; maybe they just wanted it to look like they mixed the mail up. As you know well by now, hackers don't have any rights and the usual federal laws don't protect them :) It's improbable that they would've just made a mistake like that. Everything was clearly marked; a lot of the stuff had his name on it. I'd be curious to know what kind of special things they have to watch out for in his mail. I don't think there's any doubt that there are special conditions for him that don't apply to the other prisoners. rOTTEN, did they put special restrictions on Poulsen's mail and stuff? To answer the other question, I think the book kevin was given was called the new world order; I don't know. I definitely didn't send it. This is the first instance of this that I know of, but then I don't know what other people may've sent him. At 05:13 AM 10/23/98 -0400, you wrote: >WOW. I hope everyone documents these events and reports them to the ACLU >and whatever official authorities exist. Is tampering with US Mail _not_ >an offense for Prison Guards? (I know they have to _inspect_ it for >contraband, but actually changing the content like that seems really >amiss. Maybe it was just a mix-up and Kevin's things went to the person >who was expecting a 'new world order' book? Just wishful thinking....) > > >> envelope and put a book about the new world order in it and gave it to > > >Just out of curiousity, what was the name of the book they gave him? > > >> him instead. Don't stop sending him stuff, just be aware they can keep >> it out of his hands or make him think you sent something else altogether >> if they want. >> >> If you've sent him stuff recently and you want to make sure he got it, >> email me and i'll ask if he ever got it. Pisses me off, altho i >> expected it. Everything else i've ever sent got thru. > > >Is this the first instance of this that Kevin has reported? > > > *********************************************************** FREE KEVIN bumperstickers http://www.mindspring.com/~jump0 *********************************************************** PO Box 17435 - Raleigh NC 27619 - email jump0@mindspring.com checks/money orders payable to "Free Kevin Publicity Fund" *********************************************************** Stickers are sold at cost plus postage - we make no profit from this effort - donations are split equally between Kevin's Defense Fund and the Free Kevin Publicity Fund. *********************************************************** F R E E K E V I N http://www.KevinMitnick.com ------------------------------ End of mitnick-digest V1 #182 *****************************