mitnick-digest Wednesday, October 28 1998 Volume 01 : Number 187 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:13:53 EST From: DOCGGG@aol.com Subject: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin okay. umm.. well...halloween is saturday and i have a suggestion... how about....when you go trick-or-treating :) that you hand out flyers to the people that answer the door....if the people aren't home.. put them in their mailboxes.. if you see others trick-or-treating...hand them out too if you give someone a paper at their door.. they will read it most likely....more likely than if you put them on a car window. okay... just a suggestion ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 07:36:15 -0600 From: Zach Miller Subject: Re: Unsubscribe by Dan Eisenberg (NON-[mitnick]) Dan Eisenberg wrote: > > unsubscribe let's take a brief look at the headers on your e-mail: Received: from phalse.2600.com [205.136.158.2] by mx02 via mtad (2.6) with ESMTP id 261cJbXMK0173M02; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:38:36 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by phalse.2600.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) id SAA12329 for mitnick-outgoing; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:10:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (m15.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.192]) by phalse.2600.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA12320; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:10:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from danafton@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DSPCLUW2; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:08:55 EST To: mitnick@2600.com, majordomo@2600.com, listserv@2600.com Message-ID: <19981028.071038.2079.3.danAFTON@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0 From: danafton@juno.com (Dan Eisenberg) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:08:55 EST Sender: owner-mitnick@2600.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mitnick@2600.com X-Comment: To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@2600.com from the address you're subscribed from, with the body "unsubscribe mitnick". X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 hold on there! what does that say? On the X-Comment: part. Why, I believe it tells you to send unsubscribe messages to majordomo@2600.com, not mitnick@2600.com. Why is this so difficult??? This is kind of directed to everybody. Don't send unsubscribe messages to the list!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:34:10 -0600 From: "poiSiNous" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Nashville Scene writer backs down! Right on. Thanks BadGirl :) poiSiNous ICQ : 2359153 AIM : KiSSKiLL URL : http://members.xoom.com/poiSiNous/Lair.html e-mail : drklust@bellsouth.net - -----Original Message----- From: BadGirlnLA@aol.com To: mitnick@2600.com Date: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 6:29 PM Subject: [mitnick] Nashville Scene writer backs down! >http://www.nashvillescene.com > >Nashville Scene >October 8, 1998 >By James Hanback, Jr. > >Bytes > >Hacked off > >Never let it be said that I won't eat crow. After my attack on hacking two >weeks ago, when I >reported the story of HFG (Hacking for Girlies) and their infiltration of the >New York Times Web >server, I received more than a few complaints from hackers and hacker- >empathizers. > >As several readers noted, I failed to point out that Kevin Mitnick, though >imprisoned for his alleged >crimes, has not received what amounts to a fair trial--one of the hacking >community's major >contentions. Mitnick reportedly broke into the home computer of one of the >world's leading >computer-security experts. The investigation and Mitnick's capture were >chronicled in the book >Takedown, which was cowritten by a New York Times writer and has been hotly >protested by many >hackers as a simple attempt to gain money and notoriety for its authors. A >film version of the book is >in the works. > >Mitnick has subsequently been imprisoned without trial for longer than many >rapists and murderers. >But everyone, including hackers, has a right to due process. > >Likewise, my August column about "Back Orifice," the program developed by Cult >of the Dead Cow, >used overly harsh terms to describe the hackers involved. Local hackers say >that Microsoft has not >taken seriously the threat that Back Orifice could pose to Windows security; >this negligence, they >suggest, simply proves that the company isn't interested in the safety of its >customers. > >Also, some people pointed out that the labeling of hackers as "cyber- >terrorists" was unfair. Certainly, >that wasn't a good descriptive term, if for no other reason than the fact that >hacking doesn't >necessarily amount to a terrorist act. A group of local hackers recently >informed me that they do not >break in and destroy other people's servers, but they do inform people of >possible security problems >when they encounter them. It is, they say, a community service. > >Speaking of hacking, a recent report at http://www.cnn.com/, claims people can >break into your >World Wide Web server through simple default CGI (Common Gateway Interface) >scripts that come >with the most popular Web server software. The recent hacking of the New York >Times site-- >http://www.nytimes.com/. -- prompted CNN to discuss the matter with experts in >computer security. >According to the report, those default CGI scripts should be deleted and >replaced with a >knowledgeable Webmaster's own, more secure scripts. > >Hackers are knowledgeable about the scripts that ship with common Web servers, >and have found >ways to get access to the server by feeding those scripts strings of long >commands and overflowing >their buffers. From there, they give themselves accounts on the victim servers >and launch a "rootkit" >to gain root access. > >Once they have root access, hackers are not limited in what they can do to >your Web server. The >best protection, the CNN expert said, is simply not to use the default CGI >scripts. Descriptions of the >buffer overflow technique can also be found at http://www.antionline.com/. > >To reach James, call him at 244-7989, ext. 272, or e-mail him at >james@nashscene.com. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 07:52:40 -0600 From: Zach Miller Subject: Re: [mitnick] The chinese human-right site hack... Kenneth Lo wrote: > I finally had a chance to read the site last night, that wasn't really > well done, in term of the protest... > > -- klops it doesn't appear to have been specifically done for Kevin at all. so you cant really say its not "well done" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:55:06 EST From: Sacrosantx@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin Reminder: Putting things in mailbox'es is illegal (in some places; if not all.. not sure). Otherwise decent idea. LucidPeace ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:57:39 -0500 From: John Vranesevich Subject: [mitnick] Banner Ads Greetings: If any artists out there would like to come up with some banner ads (the smaller k the better, no ads will be taken larger than 17k, animated is always better, must be in gif89 format, no .jpg please), feel free to do so and email them to jp@antionline.com We've already had our graphics guys for the new site come up with a half dozen, but the more different styles we're able to rotate, the better the click-through-rates will be. Below is our official press release for background info, in case you haven't already seen it: Yours In CyberSpace, John Vranesevich Founder, AntiOnline jp@antionline.com 724-728-6203 AntiOnline, internationally recognized as the world's premier source for information on hackers, crackers, and the underground culture, today announced that it will be donating $50,000us worth of ad impressions to the official Kevin Mitnick website. While AntiOnline has no official opinion as to the guilt or innocence of Kevin Mitnick (it is their belief that he deserves a fair and speedy trial like every other American, and that a panel of his peers should be the ones to determine his guilt or innocence), it does feel that his case will set several legal precedents, which may play a vast and wide reaching impact on the Internet and technology as a whole. The campaign, which will include both impressions that will run along with the site's primary advertisers on the top of each page, will also include a special side bar ad on the primary page. It is AntiOnline's belief that its users will be interested in the plight of Kevin Mitnick, and that the campaign will help to draw even more attention to an already high profile case. It is also AntiOnline's hope that the campaign will help to spark new and productive on-line discussions about the law as it relates to technology, as well as how hackers and crackers play a role in the advancement of computer security and technology as a whole. Along with its banner ad campaign, AntiOnline will also be posting the views of its users as they relate to Kevin Mitnick in its "Weekly MailBag", along with weekly articles from legal experts, hackers, military system administrators, and security professionals alike. AntiOnline is also calling on others in its field to follow suit, and donate space on their sites as well. The campaign is set to start on November 1, 1998. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:57:30 -0600 From: Hyprstatik Subject: [mitnick] need quotes... Hello all, I am writing a college paper on Kevin Mitnick's unfair pretrail jail term and I am looking for quotes from the "hacker community" or the hacking supporting community. (if I offend anyone please correct me as I know nothing about the inside) All I ask for is your thoughts, a name(it can be a nick or fake name but no profantiy please), a country(if outside the US), a state if inside the US. And a valid e-mail address that will not be published but I will use to contact you later. I plan to use this paper to support Kevin and help the cause so help me do justice to the "hackers" in the world please. hyprstatik acasha@ix.netcom.com - -- "Data has no conscience without truth, truth has no worth without lies." hyprstatik copyright 1997 "It's a small world and smells funny I'd buy another if I had the money." Sister's of Mercy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:03:58 -0700 (MST) From: Andy Goodwin Subject: Re: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin How hard is it to not post off-topic posts? jesus, most of you are like little kids that just want to be heard. This is getting very old. and I've been on this list for like 2 weeks. _\|/_ Andy Goodwin (andyg@unf.net) ICQ: 176380 United Networking Foundation EFNet: PdM On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 DOCGGG@aol.com wrote: > okay. > umm.. > well...halloween is saturday > and i have a suggestion... > how about....when you go trick-or-treating :) > that you hand out flyers to the people that answer the door....if the people > aren't home.. > put them in their mailboxes.. > if you see others trick-or-treating...hand them out too > if you give someone a paper at their door.. > they will read it most likely....more likely than if you put them on a car > window. > okay... > just a suggestion > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:21:29 -0800 From: The Bri Man Subject: Re: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin At 18:03 10/28/98 , you wrote: >How hard is it to not post off-topic posts? > >jesus, most of you are like little kids that just want to be heard. > >This is getting very old. and I've been on this list for like 2 weeks. > >_\|/_ Andy Goodwin (andyg@unf.net) ICQ: 176380 > United Networking Foundation EFNet: PdM > >On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 DOCGGG@aol.com wrote: > >> okay. >> umm.. >> well...halloween is saturday >> and i have a suggestion... >> how about....when you go trick-or-treating :) >> that you hand out flyers to the people that answer the door....if the people >> aren't home.. >> put them in their mailboxes.. >> if you see others trick-or-treating...hand them out too >> if you give someone a paper at their door.. >> they will read it most likely....more likely than if you put them on a car >> window. >> okay... >> just a suggestion >> >> >> > why is this off-topic? it seems to be saying PASS OUT FLYERS. wow, how off-topic! oh, and pass out FLYERS ABOUT KEVIN. how off-topic. if this is not what you are refering to, but just using the subject as a general scolding for off-topic'ness, then sorry for this harshness. *BRaiN KaNDy* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:26:30 EST From: DeviIa@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] An idea. In a message dated 98-10-28 13:51:55 EST, eric.remy@snet.net writes: > Have you people actually heard Howard Stern's show? He just doesn't > address serious issues like Kevin. It's not going to happen. If Kevin's > ordeal had something to do with lesbians, that would be a different story, > but spending time trying to get a mention on Howard Stern's show is a > waste of time which could be better spent. let people spend their precious time helping however they might see fit and it is, afterall, better than doing nothing at all.......and yew never know...... sticking up for her husband, ~~^v^~~ Diva Queen Debi ~~^v^~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:33:37 -0600 From: Alric Subject: Re: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin Hey, Andy. You either can't read or you weren't responding to the "post" regarding Halloween. Passing out flyers to increase the public's knowledge of the Kevin Mitnick case is not on-topic? I'll tell you what's getting old: people who are on the list for few days and start criticizing people with good ideas. Handing out flyers (along with good candy of course) is a great idea. Most of the trick-or-treaters will be younger children. However, this is not necessarily bad. When the parents go through the bags (checking for safety or maybe for a Payday), they'll see the flyer and be very inquisitive...."What's this odd flyer in my child's bag?" Don't put them in mailboxes...as said, it can be illegal and it pisses people off. DOCGGG@aol.com, other than that (and your aol address), your ideas seem great. Alrichter PWC At 07:03 PM 10/28/98 -0700, you wrote: >How hard is it to not post off-topic posts? > >jesus, most of you are like little kids that just want to be heard. > >This is getting very old. and I've been on this list for like 2 weeks. > >_\|/_ Andy Goodwin (andyg@unf.net) ICQ: 176380 > United Networking Foundation EFNet: PdM > >On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 DOCGGG@aol.com wrote: > >> okay. >> umm.. >> well...halloween is saturday >> and i have a suggestion... >> how about....when you go trick-or-treating :) >> that you hand out flyers to the people that answer the door....if the people >> aren't home.. >> put them in their mailboxes.. >> if you see others trick-or-treating...hand them out too >> if you give someone a paper at their door.. >> they will read it most likely....more likely than if you put them on a car >> window. >> okay... >> just a suggestion >> >> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:33:18 EST From: DeviIa@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] An idea. In a message dated 98-10-28 17:22:55 EST, oneill@alpha-design.com writes: > By the way, the originator of this topic was talking about calling into CNN, > not HOWARD. you dumb fu_ks... > > > -Zterm i thought this list was to discuss kevin mitnick and exchange ideas, not ridicule and call names.....which is what i've been seeing....why dont you all whip it out and see who's bigger? very, very, mature and worthwhile post.....NOT why didnt you leave out the "c"? for good taste? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:32:29 -0500 From: Chris Subject: Re: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin Of all of the off-topic emails, why would you flame this one? Isn't the whole point about getting the message out for Kevin. His idea *is* on topic. The whole bad idea was the mailboxes, but you could probably place it in their newspapers boxes. Don't flame worthy ideas. Andy, you contributed a one line sentance about being "out of school for a while", then about a big "sig line", and the rest from you are just saying to cut the spam, and IMHO I think you have been contributing to. Please stop being so judgemental towards others when you should see what you are doing. Please start letting others share their thoughts and views, and feel free to add your own. Chris Andy Goodwin wrote: > How hard is it to not post off-topic posts? > > jesus, most of you are like little kids that just want to be heard. > > This is getting very old. and I've been on this list for like 2 weeks. > > _\|/_ Andy Goodwin (andyg@unf.net) ICQ: 176380 > United Networking Foundation EFNet: PdM > > On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 DOCGGG@aol.com wrote: > > > okay. > > umm.. > > well...halloween is saturday > > and i have a suggestion... > > how about....when you go trick-or-treating :) > > that you hand out flyers to the people that answer the door....if the people > > aren't home.. > > put them in their mailboxes.. > > if you see others trick-or-treating...hand them out too > > if you give someone a paper at their door.. > > they will read it most likely....more likely than if you put them on a car > > window. > > okay... > > just a suggestion > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:40:39 -0700 (MST) From: Andy Goodwin Subject: Re: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin Does this look ON topic? Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:13:53 EST From: DOCGGG@aol.com Reply-To: mitnick@2600.com To: mitnick@2600.com Subject: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin okay. umm.. well...halloween is saturday and i have a suggestion... how about....when you go trick-or-treating :) that you hand out flyers to the people that answer the door....if the people aren't home.. put them in their mailboxes.. if you see others trick-or-treating...hand them out too if you give someone a paper at their door.. they will read it most likely....more likely than if you put them on a car window. okay... No it doesnt. I see no mention of Kevin Mitnick other than the mail headers. And thanks for the double email. _\|/_ Andy Goodwin (andyg@unf.net) ICQ: 176380 United Networking Foundation EFNet: PdM On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Chris wrote: > Of all of the off-topic emails, why would you flame this one? Isn't the whole > point about getting the message out for Kevin. His idea *is* on topic. The whole > bad idea was the mailboxes, but you could probably place it in their newspapers > boxes. Don't flame worthy ideas. Andy, you contributed a one line sentance about > being "out of school for a while", then about a big "sig line", and the rest from > you are just saying to cut the spam, and IMHO I think you have been contributing > to. Please stop being so judgemental towards others when you should see what you > are doing. Please start letting others share their thoughts and views, and feel > free to add your own. > > Chris > > Andy Goodwin wrote: > > > How hard is it to not post off-topic posts? > > > > jesus, most of you are like little kids that just want to be heard. > > > > This is getting very old. and I've been on this list for like 2 weeks. > > > > _\|/_ Andy Goodwin (andyg@unf.net) ICQ: 176380 > > United Networking Foundation EFNet: PdM > > > > On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 DOCGGG@aol.com wrote: > > > > > okay. > > > umm.. > > > well...halloween is saturday > > > and i have a suggestion... > > > how about....when you go trick-or-treating :) > > > that you hand out flyers to the people that answer the door....if the people > > > aren't home.. > > > put them in their mailboxes.. > > > if you see others trick-or-treating...hand them out too > > > if you give someone a paper at their door.. > > > they will read it most likely....more likely than if you put them on a car > > > window. > > > okay... > > > just a suggestion > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:29:36 -0600 From: "poiSiNous" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin How exactly was DOGGGGs post off-topic? he was talking about putting Mitnick Flyers in mailboxes and shit... perhaps you should use another big 2 weeks to get a clue. I will be taking my 2 1/2 year old trick or treating and handing out Mitnick flyers BECAUSE he gave me the idea....I would not have thought of it otherwise. poiSiNous ICQ : 2359153 AIM : KiSSKiLL URL : http://members.xoom.com/poiSiNous/Lair.html e-mail : drklust@bellsouth.net - -----Original Message----- From: Andy Goodwin To: mitnick@2600.com Date: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin >How hard is it to not post off-topic posts? > >jesus, most of you are like little kids that just want to be heard. > >This is getting very old. and I've been on this list for like 2 weeks. > >_\|/_ Andy Goodwin (andyg@unf.net) ICQ: 176380 > United Networking Foundation EFNet: PdM > >On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 DOCGGG@aol.com wrote: > >> okay. >> umm.. >> well...halloween is saturday >> and i have a suggestion... >> how about....when you go trick-or-treating :) >> that you hand out flyers to the people that answer the door....if the people >> aren't home.. >> put them in their mailboxes.. >> if you see others trick-or-treating...hand them out too >> if you give someone a paper at their door.. >> they will read it most likely....more likely than if you put them on a car >> window. >> okay... >> just a suggestion >> >> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 22:12:29 -0500 From: Porkchop Subject: Re: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin Looks on-topic to me. I can't comment on the legal issues regarding mailboxes, but this hand-out of flyers is a damn good idea. I'm not sure how well it would work for 'old' people like me handing out to people who come to the door, though. Adults would be more intrested in this than the avarage kid, and (at least around here) adults do not accompany their kids (they travel in packs of a dozen or more). One more note on mailboxes: I haven't heard of a federal regulation regarding it, but if you look up the BUSNESS line (no, that's _not_ 911 or even 611 if that's in your area) of your local police department and ask them? satchel10 said it might piss people off, I don't think that would be the case in my area. I'd suggest using your judgement, but if you are unsure, stick to giving to people you meet at the door. And cabbage night? Don't even think about it. PkCp At 9:40 PM -0500 10/28/98, Andy Goodwin wrote: >Does this look ON topic? > >Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:13:53 EST >From: DOCGGG@aol.com >Reply-To: mitnick@2600.com >To: mitnick@2600.com >Subject: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin > >okay. >umm.. >well...halloween is saturday >and i have a suggestion... >how about....when you go trick-or-treating :) >that you hand out flyers to the people that answer the door....if the >people >aren't home.. >put them in their mailboxes.. >if you see others trick-or-treating...hand them out too >if you give someone a paper at their door.. >they will read it most likely....more likely than if you put them on a car >window. >okay... > >No it doesnt. I see no mention of Kevin Mitnick other than the mail >headers. > >And thanks for the double email. > >_\|/_ Andy Goodwin (andyg@unf.net) ICQ: 176380 > United Networking Foundation EFNet: PdM > >On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Chris wrote: > >> Of all of the off-topic emails, why would you flame this one? Isn't the >>whole >> point about getting the message out for Kevin. His idea *is* on topic. >>The whole >> bad idea was the mailboxes, but you could probably place it in their >>newspapers >> boxes. Don't flame worthy ideas. Andy, you contributed a one line >>sentance about >> being "out of school for a while", then about a big "sig line", and the >>rest from >> you are just saying to cut the spam, and IMHO I think you have been >>contributing >> to. Please stop being so judgemental towards others when you should see >>what you >> are doing. Please start letting others share their thoughts and views, >>and feel >> free to add your own. >> >> Chris >> >> Andy Goodwin wrote: >> >> > How hard is it to not post off-topic posts? >> > >> > jesus, most of you are like little kids that just want to be heard. >> > >> > This is getting very old. and I've been on this list for like 2 weeks. >> > >> > _\|/_ Andy Goodwin (andyg@unf.net) ICQ: >>176380 >> > United Networking Foundation EFNet: >>PdM >> > >> > On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 DOCGGG@aol.com wrote: >> > >> > > okay. >> > > umm.. >> > > well...halloween is saturday >> > > and i have a suggestion... >> > > how about....when you go trick-or-treating :) >> > > that you hand out flyers to the people that answer the door....if >>the people >> > > aren't home.. >> > > put them in their mailboxes.. >> > > if you see others trick-or-treating...hand them out too >> > > if you give someone a paper at their door.. >> > > they will read it most likely....more likely than if you put them on >>a car >> > > window. >> > > okay... >> > > just a suggestion >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> - -------- My mis-spelling ability knows no bounds, sorry. (umm, yaa, aie cn spel) Creator: Techie Theatre Funnies OnStage! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:20:58 -0600 From: Zach Miller Subject: Re: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin ok I just had to say this: perhaps you did not quite understand what the post said but the post is ON-topic: SPREADING THE WORD ABOUT KEVIN Andy Goodwin wrote: > > How hard is it to not post off-topic posts? > > jesus, most of you are like little kids that just want to be heard. > > This is getting very old. and I've been on this list for like 2 weeks. > > _\|/_ Andy Goodwin (andyg@unf.net) ICQ: 176380 > United Networking Foundation EFNet: PdM > > On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 DOCGGG@aol.com wrote: > > > okay. > > umm.. > > well...halloween is saturday > > and i have a suggestion... > > how about....when you go trick-or-treating :) > > that you hand out flyers to the people that answer the door....if the people > > aren't home.. > > put them in their mailboxes.. > > if you see others trick-or-treating...hand them out too > > if you give someone a paper at their door.. > > they will read it most likely....more likely than if you put them on a car > > window. > > okay... > > just a suggestion > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:25:07 -0800 (PST) From: DoctorWhoCares Subject: [mitnick] Tron. Have you heard about Tron of the Chaos Computer Club, Germany? http://berlin.ccc.de/ http://www.antionline.com/ R.I.P. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:26:26 -0600 From: Zach Miller Subject: Re: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin good lord it's an understood that when he said flyers he was referring to Free Kevin flyers....get a clue Andy Goodwin wrote: > > Does this look ON topic? > > Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:13:53 EST > From: DOCGGG@aol.com > Reply-To: mitnick@2600.com > To: mitnick@2600.com > Subject: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin > > okay. > umm.. > well...halloween is saturday > and i have a suggestion... > how about....when you go trick-or-treating :) > that you hand out flyers to the people that answer the door....if the > people > aren't home.. > put them in their mailboxes.. > if you see others trick-or-treating...hand them out too > if you give someone a paper at their door.. > they will read it most likely....more likely than if you put them on a car > window. > okay... > > No it doesnt. I see no mention of Kevin Mitnick other than the mail > headers. > > And thanks for the double email. > > _\|/_ Andy Goodwin (andyg@unf.net) ICQ: 176380 > United Networking Foundation EFNet: PdM > > On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Chris wrote: > > > Of all of the off-topic emails, why would you flame this one? Isn't the whole > > point about getting the message out for Kevin. His idea *is* on topic. The whole > > bad idea was the mailboxes, but you could probably place it in their newspapers > > boxes. Don't flame worthy ideas. Andy, you contributed a one line sentance about > > being "out of school for a while", then about a big "sig line", and the rest from > > you are just saying to cut the spam, and IMHO I think you have been contributing > > to. Please stop being so judgemental towards others when you should see what you > > are doing. Please start letting others share their thoughts and views, and feel > > free to add your own. > > > > Chris > > > > Andy Goodwin wrote: > > > > > How hard is it to not post off-topic posts? > > > > > > jesus, most of you are like little kids that just want to be heard. > > > > > > This is getting very old. and I've been on this list for like 2 weeks. > > > > > > _\|/_ Andy Goodwin (andyg@unf.net) ICQ: 176380 > > > United Networking Foundation EFNet: PdM > > > > > > On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 DOCGGG@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > okay. > > > > umm.. > > > > well...halloween is saturday > > > > and i have a suggestion... > > > > how about....when you go trick-or-treating :) > > > > that you hand out flyers to the people that answer the door....if the people > > > > aren't home.. > > > > put them in their mailboxes.. > > > > if you see others trick-or-treating...hand them out too > > > > if you give someone a paper at their door.. > > > > they will read it most likely....more likely than if you put them on a car > > > > window. > > > > okay... > > > > just a suggestion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:42:45 -0600 From: Alric Subject: [mitnick] wow I don't think I've ever seen a group of people so worked-up about Halloween. To Andy: I suggest you just admit you were being stupid and move on. That's only way for you to get past this blunder. If you fight it, you're just going to look stupid and belligerent. Alric PWC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:46:16 +0000 From: data-digger Subject: Re: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin I usually keep my mouth shut, but...put two and two together. This is obviously a mailing list about Kevin Mitnick. I think you have some sort of logic and can thus, by reading the topic of the post and the fact that it says flyers (what the hell else would the flyers be about???????), that you can figure out that it *must* be on topic! d-d p.s. I don't believe that your post was directed towards Jesus. At 07:03 PM 10/28/98 -0700, you wrote: >How hard is it to not post off-topic posts? > >jesus, most of you are like little kids that just want to be heard. > >This is getting very old. and I've been on this list for like 2 weeks. > >_\|/_ Andy Goodwin (andyg@unf.net) ICQ: 176380 > United Networking Foundation EFNet: PdM > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:07:19 -0800 (PST) From: rOTTEN Subject: Re: [mitnick] An idea. (howard stern) On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Kenneth Lo wrote: > About the Howard Stern part, a while ago the list came up with that > suggestion and had various feedbacks. Ultimately it's "strike down"(?) > because most of the people thinks he targets different audiences(which I > disagree, as I listen to him everyday driving to work) and he won't take > the issue seriously. Methinks the only way that you're going to get Howard Stern to become HALFWAY serious about Mitnick, is to guilt him into it. First remind him that he is in LOVE with the internet for the ease of access of many different forms of pornography...something he adores. Then convince him that if it weren't for hackers, there would BE no internet. Then use the following quotation that I made up: "With the advent of any modern technology, mankind will find a way to make it increasingly smutty." - rOTTEN 9-98 Con him into believing that the only way that he can be ensured of high quality technological smut, well into his late years, is to support those who help establish the underground movement. Give him the km.com url. And please attribute the quote to me as it took me 17 hours and 2 million government dollars to come up with it. ho ho ho. <..rOTTEN..> nobody move, nobody get hurt error187(1) critical failure - - - - - - To do: 1) Update my "To do" list. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 22:33:15 -0600 From: "Joe Shambro" Subject: [mitnick] Rootshell Hacked This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_03D9_01BE02C2.F4449980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.rootshell.com/hacked_sites/www.rootshell.com/ evidently the attackers used some hole in sshd 1.2.26 .. which is = supposedly secure... I just do'nt know of any exploits for that, these = guys must've really known what they were doing. - -joe =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D Joe Shambro Technology Consultant DCS Technologies, LLC jshambro@apci.net "Before these crowded streets, here stood my dreaming tree.." -DJM - ------=_NextPart_000_03D9_01BE02C2.F4449980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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- ------=_NextPart_000_03D9_01BE02C2.F4449980-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:03:00 -0500 From: Chris Subject: Re: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin So, Andy messed up a little. We must all try to move on past this and kill this thread. If not we'd be just blatantly flaming like him. DOCGGG's good idea has turned into a flame war. Kill the thread if you're going to flame anymore or else use it to specify legalities or build from his idea. The best words to use to sum this up would come from PCU, "Don't be that guy." Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 22:53:26 -0600 From: "terge" Subject: Re: [mitnick] My close encounter with Visiting KM, only as a Cellmate... fucking shut up...no ones arguing the point anymore leave it rest already. terge - -----Original Message----- From: hugh field To: mitnick@2600.com Date: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [mitnick] My close encounter with Visiting KM, only as a Cellmate... >First: please don't start another AOL flame war. Some people like AOL >and that's fine. While I personally dislike the service for many reasons >that does not justify wasting space in people's mailboxes for your inane >drivel. >Second: Where exactly do you admin? I would love a job at a place where >my employers don't care about spelling. Regardless, if you would like to >effectively communicate any ideas you may have in between your anti-AOL >comments, you might want to obey the standard rules of spelling and >grammar. > >~hugh field (DarkJedi) > >Hardrock Llewynyth wrote: >> >> On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, zoltan wrote: >> >> > in response to that, let me tell ya somethin. you go be an admin. for 12 >> > hours, and program for another five. then tell me how well you spell, or >> > really care how you spell. >> >> dunno what languages and Operating Systems you use; but it has been my >> experience with C, Java, Unix, and DOS that if you can't or don't spell >> everything correctly, you are in for a world of hurt. >> >> Windows, otoh, you're in for a world of hurt regardless. >> >> > ps- at least i am not a lame ass AoL user. lamer >> >> hardrock, some of my best friends are AOLers... >> -- >> "I will not eat any animal that has ever been a cartoon character." >> --Dave Lister > >-- >********************************hugh field****************************** >| redtide@serve.com | PGP public key @ www.serve.com/redtide/pgp.txt | >************************************************************************ >| God: "If I were to tell you that there is an army of angels waiting | >| in Heaven, and on the Day of Judgement they will be unleashed upon | >| the world to slay all the unbelievers, what would your response be?" | >| Response: "Pre-emptive nuclear strike." | >************************************************************************ > ------------------------------ End of mitnick-digest V1 #187 *****************************