mitnick-digest Saturday, October 31 1998 Volume 01 : Number 188 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:39:52 -0600 From: Zach Miller Subject: Re: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin i agree and disagree. i dont think we should kill the thread, but steer it back on topic. DOCGGG had a pretty good idea. i have 2000 some flyers around my house that i can pass out when i take my little bro around. also although slipping a flyer into kids bags as they come to your house seems like a good idea, remember that parents are bound to get the wrong idea and wonder why you are telling their children about "dark evil computer hackers". just a thought. Chris wrote: > > So, Andy messed up a little. We must all try to move on past this and kill this > thread. If not we'd be just blatantly flaming like him. DOCGGG's good idea has > turned into a flame war. Kill the thread if you're going to flame anymore or > else use it to specify legalities or build from his idea. The best words to use > to sum this up would come from PCU, "Don't be that guy." > > Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 07:42:22 +0000 From: kerry Subject: [mitnick] old press release - govt admitted they were wrong With regard to the DOJ press release http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/cac/pr/cac70627.1.html, the government did admit it had been wrong about the supervised release violations Kevin had been charged with. See this article by Littman http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/cac/pr/cac70627.1.html. (also linked from http://www.kevinmitnick.com/news.html) Text of the article's below. - ---------------------------------- New twist: Feds recant on Mitnick's fugitive status By Jonathan Littman June 19, 1997 5:19 PM PDT ZDNN Back in 1994, a supposedly fleeing Kevin Mitnick told anyone who would listen he really wasn't a fugitive from justice. He claimed to be just a paranoid hacker who didn't want to stick around once his probation was up. As it turns out, he may have been telling me the truth. In a federal court in Los Angeles, the government admitted it had made a mistake in saying that Mitnick was on the lam. The admission may put an entirely different twist on the case. If Mitnick wasn't really a fugitive, a couple of probation violations mistakenly escalated into one the biggest manhunts in cyberspace. Petty offenses by Mitnick -- probably punishable by an extension of his probation -- spun into a nationwide cat-and-mouse game that drew a frenzy of media hype. Along the way, Mitnick, who may have been no more than a scofflaw, instead became the notorious criminal mastermind the authorities apparently wanted him to be. The change in the government's stance came to light last week during a routine pre-sentencing hearing before Federal Judge Mariana Pfaelzer. The U.S. Marshal the government had relied upon to claim that Mitnick fled before his three-year probation was finished on December 7, 1992, testified he never made any such statement. Minutes later, Mitnick's former probation officer, Frank Gulla admitted he wrongly stated that Mitnick was a fugitive. No longer able to prove Mitnick was a fugitive, the government instead claimed the hacker was tardy with his paperwork, failing to submit three monthly supervision reports. But Gulla testified that for 33 months, until September 1992, Mitnick "conscientiously" complied with the reporting requirements of his 36 months supervision. "When a person establishes kind of a track record on supervision, I don't necessarily hold it against them if they are late with a report," Gulla testified, "and in fairness to Mr. Mitnick, people are late with their reports..." The probation officer spoke with Mitnick in October and November without ever telling the hacker he was tardy in his reports, and even gave him permission on October 28, 1992 to travel to Las Vegas. Testimony demonstrated that the probation officer and the hacker spoke on October 5th, 6th, 9th, 21st, 28th, 30th and November 2nd. Phone records subpoenaed by Mitnick proved he called the officer as late as December 4th. Ironically, on December 7, 1992, the last day of his three-year probation, Mitnick met with his psychologist (the court had ordered that he seek counseling for his obsessive hacking), a fact attested to by the therapist in a declaration to the court. At the very time government alleged Mitnick was a dangerous fugitive, the world's "most wanted" computer hacker was following court orders, having his head checked with his shrink. Next Monday, Mitnick's attorney will ask Judge Pfaelzer to make a formal finding that Mitnick was not a fugitive. For Mitnick, last week's testimony made the question moot. The 14-month sentence he will receive for supervised release violations will be based solely on a secret warrant filed a month before his three-year probation expired -- but not served on him until his arrest more than two years later. Mitnick was charged with associating with a former accomplice and accessing the voice mail of Pac Bell security officials. Mitnick's alleged Pac Bell intrusions, a petty offense, fit the profile of an obsessive hacker. Mitnick told me several years ago that he was attempting to discover whether the government was putting him under phone surveillance, and operating a criminal undercover agent who went by the handle Agent Steal. Mitnick has claimed that Agent Steal attempted to entrap him while he was on probation, encouraging him to commit crimes. Despite the admission by the U.S. Marshal and Mitnick's former parole officer, federal prosecutors still contend that Mitnick eventually did become a fugitive. "We believe that Mr. Mitnick did, in fact, become a fugitive it is clear for two and half years," Assistant U.S. attorney Christopher Painter declared during the hearing. Until Mitnick's trial set for January, 1998, the public may not know for certain why the government escalated a routine probation case into a national manhunt. And it will also have to wait until then for answers to two other compelling questions: Did the government have clear evidence of specific crimes? Or did Mitnick's troubles stem from his attempt to protect himself by investigating the investigators? Jonathan Littman is the author of The Fugitive Game, online with Kevin Mitnick and The Watchman. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 07:59:43 +0000 From: kerry Subject: [mitnick] old press release - govt admitted they were wrong With regard to the DOJ press release http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/cac/pr/cac70627.1.html, the government did admit it had been wrong about the supervised release violations Kevin had been charged with. But, as this article by Littman says, "For Mitnick, last week's testimony made the question moot. The 14-month sentence he will receive for supervised release violations will be based solely on a secret warrant filed a month before his three-year probation expired -- but not served on him until his arrest more than two years later." See this article by Littman http://www5.zdnet.com/zdnn/content/zdnn/0619/zdnn0015.html (also linked from http://www.kevinmitnick.com/news.html) Text of the article's below. - ---------------------------------- New twist: Feds recant on Mitnick's fugitive status By Jonathan Littman June 19, 1997 5:19 PM PDT ZDNN Back in 1994, a supposedly fleeing Kevin Mitnick told anyone who would listen he really wasn't a fugitive from justice. He claimed to be just a paranoid hacker who didn't want to stick around once his probation was up. As it turns out, he may have been telling me the truth. In a federal court in Los Angeles, the government admitted it had made a mistake in saying that Mitnick was on the lam. The admission may put an entirely different twist on the case. If Mitnick wasn't really a fugitive, a couple of probation violations mistakenly escalated into one the biggest manhunts in cyberspace. Petty offenses by Mitnick -- probably punishable by an extension of his probation -- spun into a nationwide cat-and-mouse game that drew a frenzy of media hype. Along the way, Mitnick, who may have been no more than a scofflaw, instead became the notorious criminal mastermind the authorities apparently wanted him to be. The change in the government's stance came to light last week during a routine pre-sentencing hearing before Federal Judge Mariana Pfaelzer. The U.S. Marshal the government had relied upon to claim that Mitnick fled before his three-year probation was finished on December 7, 1992, testified he never made any such statement. Minutes later, Mitnick's former probation officer, Frank Gulla admitted he wrongly stated that Mitnick was a fugitive. No longer able to prove Mitnick was a fugitive, the government instead claimed the hacker was tardy with his paperwork, failing to submit three monthly supervision reports. But Gulla testified that for 33 months, until September 1992, Mitnick "conscientiously" complied with the reporting requirements of his 36 months supervision. "When a person establishes kind of a track record on supervision, I don't necessarily hold it against them if they are late with a report," Gulla testified, "and in fairness to Mr. Mitnick, people are late with their reports..." The probation officer spoke with Mitnick in October and November without ever telling the hacker he was tardy in his reports, and even gave him permission on October 28, 1992 to travel to Las Vegas. Testimony demonstrated that the probation officer and the hacker spoke on October 5th, 6th, 9th, 21st, 28th, 30th and November 2nd. Phone records subpoenaed by Mitnick proved he called the officer as late as December 4th. Ironically, on December 7, 1992, the last day of his three-year probation, Mitnick met with his psychologist (the court had ordered that he seek counseling for his obsessive hacking), a fact attested to by the therapist in a declaration to the court. At the very time government alleged Mitnick was a dangerous fugitive, the world's "most wanted" computer hacker was following court orders, having his head checked with his shrink. Next Monday, Mitnick's attorney will ask Judge Pfaelzer to make a formal finding that Mitnick was not a fugitive. For Mitnick, last week's testimony made the question moot. The 14-month sentence he will receive for supervised release violations will be based solely on a secret warrant filed a month before his three-year probation expired -- but not served on him until his arrest more than two years later. Mitnick was charged with associating with a former accomplice and accessing the voice mail of Pac Bell security officials. Mitnick's alleged Pac Bell intrusions, a petty offense, fit the profile of an obsessive hacker. Mitnick told me several years ago that he was attempting to discover whether the government was putting him under phone surveillance, and operating a criminal undercover agent who went by the handle Agent Steal. Mitnick has claimed that Agent Steal attempted to entrap him while he was on probation, encouraging him to commit crimes. Despite the admission by the U.S. Marshal and Mitnick's former parole officer, federal prosecutors still contend that Mitnick eventually did become a fugitive. "We believe that Mr. Mitnick did, in fact, become a fugitive it is clear for two and half years," Assistant U.S. attorney Christopher Painter declared during the hearing. Until Mitnick's trial set for January, 1998, the public may not know for certain why the government escalated a routine probation case into a national manhunt. And it will also have to wait until then for answers to two other compelling questions: Did the government have clear evidence of specific crimes? Or did Mitnick's troubles stem from his attempt to protect himself by investigating the investigators? Jonathan Littman is the author of The Fugitive Game, online with Kevin Mitnick and The Watchman. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:26:32 -0500 From: "Zachary Armstrong" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Tron. yeah he died, they say suicide, but they think its murder DoctorWhoCares wrote: > > Have you heard about Tron of the Chaos Computer Club, Germany? > > http://berlin.ccc.de/ > > http://www.antionline.com/ > > R.I.P. > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:29:49 -0500 From: "Zachary Armstrong" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin On cabbage night, im going on MY roof, aand spraying a nice big FREE KEVIN with shaving cream. If you dont advise, let me know but at least give me a good reason or 2. Its not like im going to do it to other people and destroy there property, i just destroy my own! Porkchop wrote: > > Looks on-topic to me. > I can't comment on the legal issues regarding mailboxes, but this hand-out > of flyers is a damn good idea. I'm not sure how well it would work for > 'old' people like me handing out to people who come to the door, though. > Adults would be more intrested in this than the avarage kid, and (at least > around here) adults do not accompany their kids (they travel in packs of a > dozen or more). > One more note on mailboxes: I haven't heard of a federal regulation > regarding it, but if you look up the BUSNESS line (no, that's _not_ 911 or > even 611 if that's in your area) of your local police department and ask > them? > satchel10 said it might piss people off, I don't think that would be the > case in my area. I'd suggest using your judgement, but if you are unsure, > stick to giving to people you meet at the door. > And cabbage night? Don't even think about it. > PkCp > > At 9:40 PM -0500 10/28/98, Andy Goodwin wrote: > >Does this look ON topic? > > > >Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:13:53 EST > >From: DOCGGG@aol.com > >Reply-To: mitnick@2600.com > >To: mitnick@2600.com > >Subject: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin > > > >okay. > >umm.. > >well...halloween is saturday > >and i have a suggestion... > >how about....when you go trick-or-treating :) > >that you hand out flyers to the people that answer the door....if the > >people > >aren't home.. > >put them in their mailboxes.. > >if you see others trick-or-treating...hand them out too > >if you give someone a paper at their door.. > >they will read it most likely....more likely than if you put them on a car > >window. > >okay... > > > >No it doesnt. I see no mention of Kevin Mitnick other than the mail > >headers. > > > >And thanks for the double email. > > > >_\|/_ Andy Goodwin (andyg@unf.net) ICQ: 176380 > > United Networking Foundation EFNet: PdM > > > >On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Chris wrote: > > > >> Of all of the off-topic emails, why would you flame this one? Isn't the > >>whole > >> point about getting the message out for Kevin. His idea *is* on topic. > >>The whole > >> bad idea was the mailboxes, but you could probably place it in their > >>newspapers > >> boxes. Don't flame worthy ideas. Andy, you contributed a one line > >>sentance about > >> being "out of school for a while", then about a big "sig line", and the > >>rest from > >> you are just saying to cut the spam, and IMHO I think you have been > >>contributing > >> to. Please stop being so judgemental towards others when you should see > >>what you > >> are doing. Please start letting others share their thoughts and views, > >>and feel > >> free to add your own. > >> > >> Chris > >> > >> Andy Goodwin wrote: > >> > >> > How hard is it to not post off-topic posts? > >> > > >> > jesus, most of you are like little kids that just want to be heard. > >> > > >> > This is getting very old. and I've been on this list for like 2 weeks. > >> > > >> > _\|/_ Andy Goodwin (andyg@unf.net) ICQ: > >>176380 > >> > United Networking Foundation EFNet: > >>PdM > >> > > >> > On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 DOCGGG@aol.com wrote: > >> > > >> > > okay. > >> > > umm.. > >> > > well...halloween is saturday > >> > > and i have a suggestion... > >> > > how about....when you go trick-or-treating :) > >> > > that you hand out flyers to the people that answer the door....if > >>the people > >> > > aren't home.. > >> > > put them in their mailboxes.. > >> > > if you see others trick-or-treating...hand them out too > >> > > if you give someone a paper at their door.. > >> > > they will read it most likely....more likely than if you put them on > >>a car > >> > > window. > >> > > okay... > >> > > just a suggestion > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > -------- > My mis-spelling ability knows no bounds, sorry. (umm, yaa, aie cn spel) > Creator: Techie Theatre Funnies OnStage! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:05:26 -0500 From: "zoltan" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Tron. That's a real shame. I hate to see someone with pure talent die like that. - -z - -----Original Message----- From: Zachary Armstrong To: mitnick@2600.com Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [mitnick] Tron. >yeah he died, they say suicide, but they think its murder > > > > >DoctorWhoCares wrote: >> >> Have you heard about Tron of the Chaos Computer Club, Germany? >> >> http://berlin.ccc.de/ >> >> http://www.antionline.com/ >> >> R.I.P. >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> DO YOU YAHOO!? >> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:52:53 +0000 From: ÅçìÐMêì§TéR Subject: Re: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin The Bri Man wrote: > > At 18:03 10/28/98 , you wrote: > >How hard is it to not post off-topic posts? > > > >jesus, most of you are like little kids that just want to be heard. > > > >This is getting very old. and I've been on this list for like 2 weeks. > > > >_\|/_ Andy Goodwin (andyg@unf.net) ICQ: 176380 > > United Networking Foundation EFNet: PdM > > > >On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 DOCGGG@aol.com wrote: > > > >> okay. > >> umm.. > >> well...halloween is saturday > >> and i have a suggestion... > >> how about....when you go trick-or-treating :) > >> that you hand out flyers to the people that answer the door....if the > people > >> aren't home.. > >> put them in their mailboxes.. > >> if you see others trick-or-treating...hand them out too > >> if you give someone a paper at their door.. > >> they will read it most likely....more likely than if you put them on a car > >> window. > >> okay... > >> just a suggestion > >> > >> > >> > > > why is this off-topic? it seems to be saying PASS OUT FLYERS. wow, how > off-topic! oh, and pass out FLYERS ABOUT KEVIN. how off-topic. if this > is not what you are refering to, but just using the subject as a general > scolding for off-topic'ness, then sorry for this harshness. > > *BRaiN KaNDy* > > > > does anyone know the url for the mitnick flyers, sorry couldnt find it ok www.kevinmitnick.com - -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% VISIT HACKERSWEB http://www.vol.com/~ameister WE HAVE THE LATEST IN HACKING TEXT FILES, AND HARD TO FIND TOOLZ... %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:24:00 -0500 From: Kenneth Lo Subject: [mitnick] Flyer site(AGAIN!) "ÅçìÐMêì§TéR" wrote: > does anyone know the url for the mitnick flyers, sorry couldnt find it > ok www.kevinmitnick.com > -- http://www.watch-tower.com/archive/archive.html - -- klops ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:37:21 PST From: "Homer J." Subject: [mitnick] stuff Hey, how do I get FREE KEV bumper stickers or T-shirts. The more people that see me wearing a shirt the better. It beats putting bumper stickers in the wrong place! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:11:48 EST From: DOCGGG@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin well, i'm sorry for the bad thing i started :( oh yeah, the aol address :( that too . but, i mean..don't put them in mailboxes..just hand them out. i see quite alot of people around where i live, so why not hand them out? thanks everyone who supports me. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 00:43:41 +0000 From: kerry Subject: [mitnick] mail question and finance info I just got this message, sent in to kevin's site -- does anyone know what "no package authorization on file" means and how that can be avoided? There is some good commentary here on the corporate financial situation too. - ------------------------------------------ I attempted to send a package to Kevin with paperback books and magazines at the address listed at this site and it was returned with a note saying the was "no package authorization on file" what is with that? Who can I send it to so that it gets to Kevin? I also included the SEC Regulations which plainly state that "material" losses must not only be accounted for in the financial statements, which can be creatively hidden, but losses such as those allegedly committed by Kevin must be discussed by Management in a specific section and describe how significant and the amount of income loss due to any "unusual or infrequent" events which Kevin's alleged activity would surely entail. What is considered "material" is whatever an average shareholder would want to know about in making his investment decision, which is somewhat vague. However, by looking at other items which have been included in this required section in every 10-k by each alleged company Kevin should have a good idea as to what dollar amount each company deems "material." However, I've been practicing in the area of securities law for over 8 years and will be willing to bet that none of the companies mention any losses due to any alleged conduct on the part of Kevin since they may have been out an insignifficant amount of money in plugging computer holes and having investigators, who investigate for them anyway, put more effort into tracking Kevin down put the company lost no income and no competitior or any other person or entity took customers away due to the use of the programs allegedly taken by Kevin. I could go on, but I think you know that the companies didn't loss millions of dollars each, did not report the loss of millions of dollars, since that would be a fraudulent representation and it would not be good for the stock price, and also, for the same reasons, they will not testify as to lossing millions since that will conflict with their filings and open them up to lawsuits. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:46:37 -0600 From: "poiSiNous" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin You did not start a bad thing at all. :) It is a great idea.... in fact, My sister and I decided to take it a step further and are handing flyers out at the mall when we take our kids trick-or-treating there as well. My mother is giving the flyers out to trick-or treaters that night, while I am out giving them to "trick-or-treat-ee's" ;) If any of you are in a band and such and pass out flyers in your area to promote the show... perhaps try doing what we did and devote one side to the show and the back side to Mitnick... after the barflys sober up, they just may read it. :) poiSiNous poiSiNous ICQ : 2359153 AIM : KiSSKiLL URL : http://members.xoom.com/poiSiNous/Lair.html e-mail : drklust@bellsouth.net - -----Original Message----- From: DOCGGG@aol.com To: mitnick@2600.com Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin >well, i'm sorry for the bad thing i started :( >oh yeah, the aol address :( that too . >but, i mean..don't put them in mailboxes..just hand them out. i see quite >alot of people around where i live, so why not hand them out? >thanks everyone who supports me. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:19:52 PST From: "TelePhreak ." Subject: Re: [mitnick] stuff well, the tee-shirts you can goto http://members.xoom.com/TelePhreak/merch.html and for bumper stickers, goto the mitnick website, www.kevinmitnick.com/home.html this might be the exact url for the stickers, i not sure though, www.kevinmitnick.com/stick.html - - - - - - - - ->Phone Rangers<- - - - - - - - - - - F -TelePhreak R Email: AcidHak@Hotmail.com E mIRC: TelePhrk E ICQ: 10886438 K Aol Instant Messanger: TelePhrk 0 E NPA: 908 (NJ) V http://phonerangers.home.ml.org/ I - - - - - - - - ->Phone Rangers<- - - - - - - - - - - N ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 06:20:59 -0600 From: Zach Miller Subject: Re: [mitnick] mail question and finance info it might mean that the package did not come from the publisher, or something like that kerry wrote: > > I just got this message, sent in to kevin's site -- does anyone know > what "no package authorization on file" means and how that can be > avoided? > > There is some good commentary here on the corporate financial situation > too. > > ------------------------------------------ > I attempted to send a package to Kevin with paperback books and > magazines at the address listed at this site and it was returned with a > note saying the was "no package authorization on file" what is with > that? Who can I send it to so that it gets to Kevin? > > I also included the SEC Regulations which plainly state that "material" > losses must not only be accounted for in the financial statements, which > can be creatively hidden, but losses such as those allegedly committed > by Kevin must be discussed by Management in a specific section and > describe how significant and the amount of income loss due to any > "unusual or infrequent" events which Kevin's alleged activity would > surely entail. What is considered "material" is whatever an average > shareholder would want to know about in making his investment decision, > which is somewhat vague. However, by looking at other items which have > been included in this required section in every 10-k by each alleged > company Kevin should have a good idea as to what dollar amount each > company deems "material." > > However, I've been practicing in the area of securities law for over 8 > years and will be willing to bet that none of the companies mention any > losses due to any alleged conduct on the part of Kevin since they may > have been out an insignifficant amount of money in plugging computer > holes and having investigators, who investigate for them anyway, put > more effort into tracking Kevin down put the company lost no income and > no competitior or any other person or entity took customers away due to > the use of the programs allegedly taken by Kevin. > > I could go on, but I think you know that the companies didn't loss > millions of dollars each, did not report the loss of millions of > dollars, since that would be a fraudulent representation and it would > not be good for the stock price, and also, for the same reasons, they > will not testify as to lossing millions since that will conflict with > their filings and open them up to lawsuits. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:34:50 PST From: "TelePhreak ." Subject: [mitnick] AntiOnline Helpping Kevin i am not sure if anyone posted this yet, but i am happy we have a large organization like AntiOnline Helping support Kevin. And 2600 has been doing alot, now maybe this will help them do their jobs. AntiOnline's Coverage Of Donation Of Ad Space To Kevin Mitnick AntiOnline, internationally recognized as the world's premier source for information on hackers, crackers, and the underground culture, today announced that it will be donating $50,000us worth of ad impressions to the official Kevin Mitnick website. While AntiOnline has no official opinion as to the guilt or innocence of Kevin Mitnick (it is their belief that he deserves a fair and speedy trial like every other American , and that a panel of his peers should be the ones to determine his guilt or innocence), it does feel that his case will set several legal precedents, which may play a vast and wide reaching impact on the Internet and technology as a whole. The campaign, which will include both impressions that will run along with the site's primary advertisers on the top of each page, will also include a special side bar ad on the primary page. It is AntiOnline's belief that its users will be interested in the plight of Kevin Mitnick, and that the campaign will help to draw even more attention to an already high profile case. It is also AntiOnline's hope that the campaign will help to spark new and productive on-line discussions about the law as it relates to technology, as well as how hackers and crackers play a role in the advancement of computer security and technology as a whole. Along with its banner ad campaign, AntiOnline will also be posting the views of its users as they relate to Kevin Mitnick in its "Weekly MailBag", along with weekly articles from legal experts, hackers, military system administrators, and security professionals alike. AntiOnline is also calling on others in its field to follow suit, and donate space on their sites as well. The campaign is set to start on November 1, 1998. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:37:34 EST From: JediHamstr@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: [mitnick] Halloween is Saturday :) we can't forget kevin Listen, asshole, how is that off-topic? It has everything to do with Kevin. When we criticize someone for an off-topic post, we are criticizing them for writing something that has absolutely nothing to do with Kevin. For example, I can recall someone writing a letter requesting information on "how to hack." Now THAT is off topic. Handing out flyers to people who answer the door is very relevant to the idea of getting the word out. Get it? - -Jedi In a message dated 10/29/98 2:19:37 AM, andyg@unf.net writes: >How hard is it to not post off-topic posts? > >jesus, most of you are like little kids that just want to be heard. > >This is getting very old. and I've been on this list for like 2 weeks. > >_\|/_ Andy Goodwin (andyg@unf.net) ICQ: 176380 > United Networking Foundation EFNet: > PdM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:36:30 +0000 From: kerry Subject: [mitnick] Flyers http://www.kevinmitnick.com/flyer/ has a few html and ms word flyers you guys can use for halloween too. *********************************************************** F R E E K E V I N http://www.KevinMitnick.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:40:05 PST From: "Bob Crane" Subject: [mitnick] FLYERS I think that those in college should post some flyers up on bulletin boards. College campuses are loaded with bulletin board and advertising space. Go for it! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:03:53 -0500 From: gjones@raleigh.ibm.com Subject: [mitnick] Is your Kid a Hacker? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-zdnet_update@EMAIL.ZDLISTS.COM [mailto:owner-zdnet_update@EMAIL.ZDLISTS.COM] On Behalf Of ZDNet Update Sent: Monday, October 26, 1998 10:16 PM To: zdnet_update@EMAIL.ZDLISTS.COM Subject: ZDNet Update: Is your kid a hacker? **CORRECTION** Greetings from ZDNet! EDITOR'S NOTE: In the last issue of ZDNet, the author of our lead item -- the feature "Is your kid a hacker?" -- was incorrectly identified due to an editorial error. The author of the story is Kevin Poulsen. The corrected information on this story follows below. ZDNet regrets the error. _____Features_____________________________________ IS YOUR KID A HACKER? Is your teen hacking the Pentagon instead of doing homework? 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To subscribe to ZDNet Update, please e-mail: mailto:zdnet_update-on@lists.zdnet.com (You can leave the subject and body blank.) To change your address with ZDNet Update, go to http://www.zdnet.com/cc/lists/zdnet_update/chaddr.html For more FREE ZDNet e-mail newsletters, go to http://www.zdnet.com/cc/email.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:49:58 -0700 (MST) From: Andy Goodwin Subject: [mitnick] Apology. My bad. I didnt notice the flyer stuffs in the haloween stuff. Anyhow. Instead of blanketing your citys with fliers, why not start sending articles into the "letters to the editor" in your local newspapers? That would seem a quicker way of getting exposure to kevin mitnick. _\|/_ Andy Goodwin (andyg@unf.net) ICQ: 176380 United Networking Foundation EFNet: PdM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:27:16 -0600 From: "XxGaLxX" Subject: Re: [mitnick] FLYERS High Schools, local stores, libraries, and even churches have bulletin boards also so get a couple and post them up there also!! zoe FREE KEVIN http://www.kevinmitnick.com AIM: lXxGaLxXl ICQ: 21375284 - ---------- > From: Bob Crane > To: mitnick@2600.com > Subject: [mitnick] FLYERS > Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 9:40 PM > > I think that those in college should post some flyers up on bulletin > boards. College campuses are loaded with bulletin board and advertising > space. Go for it! > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 10:46:10 -0500 From: Arik Hesseldahl Subject: [mitnick] Today's New York Times On the front of today's New York Times is a story on some political activists working with the rebels in Mexico. I have not yet read the article yet, but wanted the list to know. Arik out. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:01:06 -0800 (PST) From: Support Services Subject: Re: [mitnick] Today's New York Times What does this have to do with Mitnick, you ignorant reporter asshole. On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 10:46:10 -0500, Arik Hesseldahl wrote: > On the front of today's New York Times is a story on some political > activists working with the rebels in Mexico. I have not yet read the > article yet, but wanted the list to know. > > Arik out. > ------------------------------ End of mitnick-digest V1 #188 *****************************