mitnick-digest Tuesday, November 24 1998 Volume 01 : Number 200 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:44:34 -0400 From: che guevara Subject: Re: [mitnick] nice touch, justin... actually, it happened 2 me twice Bobwil623@aol.com wrote: > congrats on the involuntary "unsubscribe," justin -- "too-shay" as they > say in francais.... - -- che guevara "I know you've come to kill me. Shoot, coward, you're only going to kill a man" [Che Guevara] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:55:23 -0500 From: gjones@raleigh.ibm.com Subject: [mitnick] Slightly of topic This was fwded to me by a friend of mine who works for Sybari, turns out only 1/2 of it is true. - ---------------------- Forwarded by Gregory Jones/NWSMEL on 11-20-98 02:56 PM --------------------------- thomas_roughley@sybari.com on 11-20-98 02:55:32 PM To: Gregory Jones/NWSMEL cc: Subject: http://www.slashdot.org/articles/98/11/19/1029258.shtml ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:35:51 -0800 From: drch Subject: [none] unsubscribe mitnick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:33:32 -0500 From: "ArGus" Subject: [mitnick] 20/20 story This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE14C5.0A5F8EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable did anyone ever make a mpeg of the 20/20 story done a while ago?? - ---ArGus - ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE14C5.0A5F8EA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

did anyone ever make a mpeg of the = 20/20 story=20 done a while ago??

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- ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE14C5.0A5F8EA0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 14:22:45 EST From: XEquuleusX@aol.com Subject: [mitnick] Re: In a message dated 98-11-20 19:01:37 EST, you write: << unsubscribe mitnick >> you want to send that to majordomo@2600.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 11:30:09 PST From: "kenneth sooyna" Subject: [mitnick] stir up some trouble now that the list has quieted down some, i think i will shake it up and more than likely get harassed over it. to agent steal, justin peterson or what ever you call yourself, i forgive you for snitching on mitnick. i'm sure many of us would snitch if put under extreme pressure or under other circumstances. BUT, i don't forgive you for running away from your punishment. you say you did it because you were tired of the government's BS, well you know what? i think kevin mitnick is tired of the government's BS but he really can't do much about it can he? you say that kevin and the others aren't "man" enough to accept your apology. but it seems like you are the one running away and the others that aren't "man" enough are the ones that have stayed and have taken their punishment. yes, you snitched, you squealed, big deal i say. the problem is that you are running away from the problems caused by your betrayal. no i don't think you should be in kevin mitnick's place, i don't think kevin mitnick should be in kevin mitnick's place. you received your punishment and instead of being a "man" you left the country and said everyone but you wasn't a "man" even though they were the ones that took their punishment these are just my thoughts, please don't flame me on the list, flame me in person, if anyone has valid comments, then they can respond on the list. otherwise flame me, not the list. the thinker - - http://listen.to/duz icq:19173887 latest tinfoil release: november 14, 1998 tinfoil, the anti-saran wrap ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 11:39:29 PST From: "TelePhreak ." Subject: Re: [mitnick] stir up some trouble i agree with you on most parts. I agree when you say you understand that he snitched. I somewhat agree that he should be man enoff to face his punishment in some ways. But i dont agree when you said mitnick was....you seem to forget, that even though he is in jail right now, he still ran for a decent amount of time before that. You also have to think...if you were in either kevin's, or justin's place would you run too? personnally i would run for my life, no one should face jail when all they did was play with some computers. So before you say he isnt man enoff to face his punishment you have to think: would you be? - - - - - - - - ->Phone Rangers<- - - - - - - - - - - F -TelePhreak R Email: AcidHak@Hotmail.com E mIRC: TelePhrk E ICQ: 10886438 K Aol Instant Messanger: TelePhrk 0 E NPA: 908 (NJ) V http://phonerangers.home.ml.org/ I http://welcome.to/phonerangers N - - - - - - - - ->Phone Rangers<- - - - - - - - - - - ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 12:18:26 -0800 (PST) From: rOTTEN Subject: Re: [mitnick] Re: On Sat, 21 Nov 1998 XEquuleusX@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 98-11-20 19:01:37 EST, you write: > > << unsubscribe mitnick >> > you want to send that to majordomo@2600.com you want to send that in private email <..rOTTEN..> nobody move, nobody get hurt error187(1) critical failure - - - - - - To do: 1) Update my "To do" list. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 15:34:16 PST From: "kenneth sooyna" Subject: Re: [mitnick] stir up some trouble >From: "TelePhreak ." >punishment in some ways. But i dont agree when you said mitnick >was....you seem to forget, that even though he is in jail right now, he >still ran for a decent amount of time before that. You also have to my point is that kevin mitnick didn't leave the country and brag about it whereas peterson did. >think...if you were in either kevin's, or justin's place would you run >too? personnally i would run for my life, no one should face jail when >all they did was play with some computers. So before you say he isnt man >enoff to face his punishment you have to think: would you be? > personally, i would face any punishment given to me, no matter how unfair for reasons unrelated. the thinker - - http://listen.to/duz icq:19173887 home of tinfoil, the anti-saran wrap ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:41:19 EST From: Bobwil623@aol.com Subject: [mitnick] in re hastings law school does anyone on the list have access to the following journal: Hastings Comm/Ent Journal ? translated, i believe that means "Communications and Entertainment"... does anyone on the list have access to westlaw? tia.... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:22:03 -0500 From: Lauren Gelman Subject: Re: [mitnick] in re hastings law school If you give me a citation, I can send you the article. - -L At 07:41 PM 11/21/98 EST, you wrote: > >does anyone on the list have access to the following journal: > >Hastings Comm/Ent Journal ? translated, i believe that means >"Communications and Entertainment"... > >does anyone on the list have access to westlaw? > >tia.... > > /\ /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Association for Computing, + http://www.acm.org/usacm/ Office of U.S. Public Policy * +1 202 544 4859 (tel) 666 Pennsylvania Ave., SE Suite 302 B * +1 202 547 5482 (fax) Washington, DC 20003 USA + gelman@acm.org To subscribe to the ACM Washington Update, send e-mail to: listserv@acm.org with "subscribe WASHINGTON-UPDATE name" (no quotes) in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:57:27 EST From: Bobwil623@aol.com Subject: [mitnick] just in case you were thinking that all hope was lost... http://www.law.emory.edu/1circuit/feb97/96-1317.01a.html to read... > United States v. Czubinski 106 F.3d 1069, 1997 > U.S. App. LEXIS 3077 (1 Cir. Feb. 21, 1997) > > ***The Court of Appeals for the First Circuit > reversed the conviction, holding that Czubinski > had violated none of the laws charged in the > indictment because the government couldn't prove > that Czubinski had disclosed the fruits of his > snooping to anyone else.*** Absent proof of > disclosure or other use of information, > unauthorized browsing through taxpayers' files > was not itself a crime. For more info see also this legal commentary. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 22:12:16 EST From: Bobwil623@aol.com Subject: [mitnick] Re: in re hastings law school #2 gelman@acm.org (Lauren Gelman) wrote.... > If you give me a citation, I can send you the article. > > -L > > > At 07:41 PM 11/21/98 EST, you wrote: > > > >does anyone on the list have access to the following journal: > > > >Hastings Comm/Ent Journal ? translated, i believe that means > >"Communications and Entertainment"... > > > >does anyone on the list have access to westlaw? > > > >tia.... > > > >... here's the cite ("-ation", that is... ;-) 16 Hastings Comm/Ent. L.J. 681 (1994) 4 thanks for such a prompt reply... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 15:16:07 +1100 From: Grant Watson Subject: Re: [mitnick] stir up some trouble > personally, i would face any punishment given to me, no matter > how unfair for reasons unrelated. All I want to know is... why? - -- Grant Watson http://www.rpi.net.au/~gwatson E-Mail: gwatson@rpi.net.au ICQ #: 3138337 - -- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 23:32:20 EST From: JAKade@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] stir up some trouble In a message dated 11/21/98 2:52:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, acidhak@hotmail.com writes: > you seem to forget, that even though he is in jail right now, he > still ran for a decent amount of time before that. But he was free to! HIS PAROLE WAS OVER!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 08:31:08 PST From: "kenneth sooyna" Subject: Re: [mitnick] stir up some trouble >Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 15:16:07 +1100 >From: Grant Watson >> personally, i would face any punishment given to me, no matter >> how unfair for reasons unrelated. > >All I want to know is... why? > thats the kind of person i am, besides do you think that if kevin mitnick came right back to the government as soon as the said he was a fugitive that he would still be in prison? they have admitted that he was not a fugitive after all so if he came back to them when they first said he was, they would have nothing to use against him (ie. avoiding arrest, and all the other stuff he is being charged with now) and they certainly would not have held him as long as they have. the thinker - - http://listen.to/duz icq:19173887 tinfoil: the anti-saran wrap ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 09:53:38 -0800 From: Caliban Tiresias Darklock Subject: Re: [mitnick] stir up some trouble On 08:31 AM 11/22/98 -0800, I personally witnessed kenneth sooyna jumping up to say: > >do you think >that if kevin mitnick came right back to the government >as soon as the said he was a fugitive that he would still >be in prison? Turn yourself in, and they'll be nicer to you? Does anyone here really *believe* that? I don't think Kevin would have gotten a fair break even if he had turned himself in, confessed, and paid every dime of the reported "damages" to the companies involved. I think the government wants Kevin to become an example. And nothing will stop them. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- As the fire burneth a wood, and the flame setteth the mountains on fire; So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm. - ---------------------------[ Psalms, 83:14-15 ]--------------------------- Caliban Tiresias Darklock | "Hell, you don't Darklock Communications | know me." FREE KEVIN MITNICK! | - Charles Manson - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- And remember, if you don't kiss Hank's ass he'll kick the shit out of you. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 13:32:50 EST From: Bobwil623@aol.com Subject: [mitnick] Re: missing the point, imho... > ...besides do you think that if kevin mitnick > came right back to the government as soon as the > said he was a fugitive that he would still be in > prison... seems to me that this line of thought is missing the central point: the government had two *paid* undercover informants working simultaneously for months to entrap mr. mitnick. if the government sets its collective "mind" (i use the word loosely) to the task of arresting a citizen, they will do so, whether that's the "kind of person" one is, or not. remember: if i had the front page of the new york times, as well as the u.s. marshall's service, at my disposal, i'd have henry hyde dragged off in chains within 6 months for his role in looting the clyde savings bank (which just happens to be located in mr. hyde's home district). see, in part, http://www.michaelmoore.com/hyde.html for more info. (reference to the newtster has been dropped in the interest of remaining topical...) it's this writer's opinion that we cannot overemphasize the effect that markoff's personal attacks on mr. mitnick had (remember: 3 front page new york times stories), and we cannot overemphasize the role of the government in targeting mr. mitnick for arrest through the use of paid informants. see http://www.newdimensions.net/headlines/jl8.htm for a case about someone who tried to extort US$500K for trade secrets he had stolen from gillete (yes, the razor mfr), and a *sentence* that was approximately half as long as the time km has served in pre-trial "detention" (aka "doing the time upfront"; i.e., before conviction) see also http://www.newdimensions.net/headlines/j01.htm for information about someone attempting to break into military computers in the u.s. while working from a computer in argentina -- if kevin received his sentence, kevin's *probation* would have been 9 months *shorter* than the time km has already spent in pre-trial detention, and without a constitutionally-required bail hearing. and, last but certainly not least, see this article http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/14197.html by the list's very own arik hesseldahl for a description of "the usual punishment doled out to crackers" who have "demonstrated the vulnerability of US military computer networks" -- "They'll be barred from computers and the Internet...". what? they won't spend 4 years in federal prison, simply to *wait* for their trial? i'm shocked.... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 13:38:31 EST From: Bobwil623@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: [mitnick] stir up some trouble #2 > I don't think Kevin would have gotten a fair > break even if he had turned himself in, > confessed, and paid every dime of the reported > "damages" to the companies involved. I think the > government wants Kevin to become an example. And > nothing will stop them. agree with all save the last sentence. only the harsh glare of the spotlight of public discussion will stop the government from making an example of a individual whose computer skills are essentially out-of-date, and whose computer skills at the time of his arrest pale in comparison to the skills of people working to crack systems for profit, the majority of whom escape detection, imho. this list can contribute to making that spotlight extremely bright, but only to the extent we ramp up our efforts to engage the conventional corporate media in a discussion focused on the issues that the *people* see as important, rather than enabling the media to merely parrot the government line. on that note, does anyone have contact with der spiegel, in germany? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 15:43:04 -0800 (PST) From: Nate Subject: [mitnick] My Mitnick Page Hey guys! Remember me? I used to post alot but I've been busy lately, so untill now I've just been reading. Anyway, I thought I'd tell you that I finally have my homepage up & I have a "Free Kevin!" page in it so if any of you have time please go to my page, check it out, & e-mail me back & tell me what you think (personally, off-list, I mean). The URL is at the bottom of this message in my signature. Well, Later. Cooly, The Stainless Steel Rat ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Digital Dementia h/c/p By: The Stainless Steel Rat http://members.theglobe.com/StStRt/index.htm ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ******************************************************************************* FREE KEVIN MITNICK www.KevinMitnick.com ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 05:30:04 -0800 (PST) From: Joshua Subject: [mitnick] Movie will air tonight. Hello all: A brief note for all you incomniacs on the list. The 1983 moive 'Wargames' will air tonight (Tuesday morning) at 1:00 am ET (Eastern Time) (01:00 UTC) over TBS (Turner Broadcasting). Enjoy! Shall we play a game? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 06:10:52 PST From: "AnGeL oF DeAtH" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Movie will air tonight. the movie Wargames kicks ass but as long as Ted Turner is broadcasting it, well, let's put it this way, he will censor EVERYTHING and cut out the best parts in most movies he plays. I'm boycotting Turner, except for Monday nights. Gotta have my WCW... _______________________________________ | | |AnGel oF DeATh | |We all go sometime | |---------------------------------------| |ICQ-->8369754 | |E-Mail-->hells_angels_666@hotmail.com | |---------------------------------------| |FREE KEVIN | |_______________________________________| ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:18:58 -0600 From: Jaeger Subject: Re: [mitnick] Kevin still in Jail how about Monaco, Liechtenstein, Albania, Switzerland (some french), Jamaica, Belgium Jaeger > where else do they speak french as the prevailing language...? > > On an island in the Carbbiean and in parts of Africa. > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 23:38:30 EST From: Sacrosantx@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] aol room I find it odd; that all of a sudden aol's private chat room : Free kevin is errore'd so I can't enter it. Is this happeneing to others on aol? lucid. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 00:20:42 EST From: Sacrosantx@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] aol room Nevermind the chatroom thing. Just ignore it. Sorry. lucid ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 00:21:14 EST From: FallOut4E@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] aol room When I search member rooms, it comes up not found. Is this the error your finding? In a message dated 11/23/98 11:43:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, Sacrosantx@aol.com writes: > I find it odd; that all of a sudden aol's private chat room : Free kevin is > errore'd so I can't enter it. Is this happeneing to others on aol? > > > lucid. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 00:48:34 EST From: Sacrosantx@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] aol room Aaah; I meant Private Room. I'm not a member roomy. It was an error; but it would only occur on that room; but a while later; it did it to every room for me. Its probably my machine :( My computer sucks.. need a new one. lucid. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 22:05:47 PST From: ". ." Subject: [none] - -----Original Message----- From: owner-travel-advisories To: travel-advisories@stolaf.edu Date: Monday, November 23, 1998 11:33 PM Subject: NEW TRAVEL INFO -- French Polynesia >STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - French Polynesia > >============================================================ > >French Polynesia - Consular Information Sheet> November 19, 1998> >COUNTRY DESCRIPTION: French Polynesia is a French overseas >territory located in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. It is made up >of several groups of tropical islands, the largest and most >populated of which is Tahiti. French Polynesia's only international >airport is located on Tahiti. 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The U.S. Embassy in Suva, Fiji is located at 31 Loftus >Street, Suva, Fiji; telephone (679) 314-466; fax (679) 300-081.>>***** > >This replaces the Consular Information Sheet dated August 8, 1996, >to add a section on aviation safety oversight, and to update the >sections on entry requirements, medical facilities and other health >information. > >----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- - ----- >The "travel-advisories@stolaf.edu" mailing list is the official Internetand >BITNET distribution point for the U.S. State Department Travel Warnings and >Consular Information Sheets. To unsubscribe, send a message containing the >word "unsubscribe" to: travel-advisories-request@stolaf.edu> >Archives of past "travel-advisories" postings are available at the > URL: > >"http://www.stolaf.edu/network/travel-advisories.html" or via Gopher: >gopher.stolaf.edu, Internet Resources/US-State-Department-Travel-Advisories> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:30:46 EST From: EmpAllin@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] Movie will air tonight. In a message dated 98-11-23 09:14:21 EST, hells_angels_666@hotmail.com (AnGeL oF DeAtH) wrote: > the movie Wargames kicks ass but as long as Ted Turner is broadcasting > it, well, let's put it this way, he will censor EVERYTHING and cut out > the best parts in most movies he plays. I'm boycotting Turner, except > for Monday nights. Gotta have my WCW... Nothing like a deep, meaningful protest with exceptions. Free Kevin, unless he is going to hack my acct? Sorry....it's nothing personal. - -Allin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 05:23:27 PST From: "Scrawny Dog" Subject: [mitnick] Kevin's medical problems Does anyone know exactly what problems (stomach, heart) he is suffering from? Is he receiving medication? It would be pretty alarming if he had serious problems without getting any good help. /towie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:06:51 -0500 From: Esoteric Resources Incorporated Subject: Re: [mitnick] Kevin's medical problems At 05:23 AM 11/24/98 PST, you wrote: >Does anyone know exactly what problems (stomach, heart) he is suffering >from? > >Is he receiving medication? > >It would be pretty alarming if he had serious problems without getting >any good help. Most of the public outcry for Bernie S. came about when people found out he was beat up and not receiving proper attention/follow-up care/medication. If anyone has info, post it. If anyone knows who to call, post that, too! - ---pam ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:45:35 -0500 From: "D. Kall Loper" Subject: Re: Re: [mitnick] Kevin still in Jail >Look. All of your comments are truly valid. However, the courts have already >proven that they are not above trampling all over Kevin's constitutional >rights. If everyone played by the rules then I would agree with you. But >they through the rule book out the door... Kevin Mitnick is NOT going to get >a fair shake plain and simple. > It is the sad truth that the Supreme Court can refuse to hear a valid petition. They do not have to justify their decision and if they did it would probably say that Kevin's abuse is not relevant to any larger question of law. A while ago I gave the cite for a case wherein the Court responded to public pressure. If we could direct our efforts toward publicity and away from flames we might help Kevin. Thanks to Kerry for her work on Kevinmitnick.com. Thanks to those of you handing out fliers. Thanks all the members of the press who have caught on. Thanks to everyone at 2600 and OTH. Could we hear from others who have done something in the real world or via packet switched reality? It is not off topic and it may inspire someone else. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 16:55:23 -0400 From: che guevara Subject: [mitnick] what am i gonna do now? AOL bought netscape...need good mac browser, please help!!! - -- che guevara "I never think of the future - it comes soon enough." [albert einstein] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:27:05 -0800 (PST) From: Derek Balling Subject: Re: [mitnick] what am i gonna do now? Has the browser somehow changed since yesterday when it wasn't owned by AOL? > AOL bought netscape...need good mac browser, please help!!! ====================================================================== Derek J. Balling | "Bill Gates is a monocle and a white dredd@megacity.org | fluffy cat from being a villain in the http://www.megacity.org/ | next Bond film." - Dennis Miller ====================================================================== ------------------------------ End of mitnick-digest V1 #200 *****************************