mitnick-digest Tuesday, December 1 1998 Volume 01 : Number 207 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:52:20 -0600 From: "poiSiN" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Chapters.... >> > Don't forget to refer to Roberts Rules of Order. >> is there an online version? > >I don't know. I would assume so, though it's something that one would go >out and buy normally. I happen to have at least 4 copies laying around if anyone needs them. >> > This grass-roots movement is a really good idea. What kind of topics will >> > be discussed at the Free Kevin meeting? >> how to help him, etc....we'll figure it out as we go along > >Well, it's probably better that you not have any clear-cut ideas on what >the club will be about...that way there's no limits to your creativity. I agree, limiting your creativity would be limiting awareness. > >> >How will you allocate time away from the 2600 meeting to discuss Kevin? >> different meeting times > >good idea. brilliant. >>possible very small ($20/year) and probably most will go to the defense fund > >I would hope that most would go to the defense fund. In fact, I would >hope that it ALL would go to the defense fund. But I can see that you'd >want to be reimbursed for costs incurred making duplicates of the by-laws >and the charter. I can make duplicates of the by-laws for free as my brother owns a printing company, therefore there is no reason why ALL of the money could not go to Kevin's fund > >And I'm still curious what the membership cards are going to look like. I think they should have a big FREE KEVIN on one side and the PGP key under it.... also, are there going to be any cute hats or hoods? > > > <..rOTTEN..> > > nobody move, nobody get hurt > > error187(1) critical failure >- - - - - > To do: 1) Update my "To do" list. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:13:04 -0800 (PST) From: rOTTEN Subject: Re: [mitnick] Chapters.... On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, poiSiN wrote: > I happen to have at least 4 copies laying around if anyone needs them. I would suggest then that each local Free Kevin chapter establish post office boxes so that benefactors such as poiSiN might forward pertinent information for the benefit of the club... e.g. Roberts Rules of Order. > >Well, it's probably better that you not have any clear-cut ideas on what > >the club will be about...that way there's no limits to your creativity. > > I agree, limiting your creativity would be limiting awareness. Awareness is the key. > I can make duplicates of the by-laws for free as my brother owns a printing > company, therefore there is no reason why ALL of the money could not go to > Kevin's fund There still is the postage issue. How can you ship the copies of the by-laws without postage? I might recommend coming up with a round number of by-laws that you'd want for each chapter of the grass-roots club, and then maybe poiSiN could do a little research on how much that would cost to ship. Some questions to consider: Would standard first-class shipment be okay? Would we prefer Priority Mail? Or would we want to go with a non-government carrier, such as FedEx or UPS? Then we could ask both potential and present members of the chapters to collect some money together for this cause. Residual moneys could be distributed to the Kevin Mitnick Fund, and any money left over from that could go to getting me to Nashville. > also, are there going to be any cute hats or hoods? I think a Free Kevin serape would be quite en vogue.. haha...but I jest. Sorry, wholly inappropriate. <..rOTTEN..> nobody move, nobody get hurt error187(1) critical failure - - - - - - To do: 1) Update my "To do" list. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:21:29 -0600 From: "poiSiN" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Chapters.... >I would suggest then that each local Free Kevin chapter establish post >office boxes so that benefactors such as poiSiN might forward pertinent >information for the benefit of the club... e.g. Roberts Rules of Order. That is a fantastic idea... perhaps whomever you appoint to be the secretary can keep the P.O Box key. >> I agree, limiting your creativity would be limiting awareness. > >Awareness is the key. Agreed again, rOTTEN. > >> I can make duplicates of the by-laws for free as my brother owns a printing >> company, therefore there is no reason why ALL of the money could not go to >> Kevin's fund > >There still is the postage issue. How can you ship the copies of the >by-laws without postage? I might recommend coming up with a round number >of by-laws that you'd want for each chapter of the grass-roots club, and >then maybe poiSiN could do a little research on how much that would cost >to ship. Some questions to consider: Would standard first-class >shipment be okay? Would we prefer Priority Mail? Or would we want to >go with a non-government carrier, such as FedEx or UPS? perhaps making it C.O.D, then the treasurer can keep track of any small amount of funds that need to go postage and paper costs... I think U.S mail is sufficiant...3rd class/bulk rate of course. > >Then we could ask both potential and present members of the chapters to >collect some money together for this cause. Residual moneys could be >distributed to the Kevin Mitnick Fund, and any money left over from that >could go to getting me to Nashville. And any mosey above what it take for rOTTEN to get to Nashville could go to me to by liquor for us in Nashville. > >> also, are there going to be any cute hats or hoods? > >I think a Free Kevin serape would be quite en vogue.. That is fabulous.... of course we need very fashionable hair designers as well > >haha...but I jest. haha.. as do i. > >Sorry, wholly inappropriate. Indeed, my apologies as well, just trying to throw in some ligt-heartedness...carry on :) ~poiSiNous "Leave me alone...I'm feeling rOTTEN" poiSiNous/Cattitude/SinKitty ICQ : 2359153 AIM : KiSSKiLL poiSiNous Lair : http://members.xoom.com/poiSiNous/Lair.html > > > <..rOTTEN..> > > nobody move, nobody get hurt > > error187(1) critical failure >- - - - - > To do: 1) Update my "To do" list. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:59:45 -0800 (PST) From: rOTTEN Subject: Re: [mitnick] Chapters.... On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, poiSiN wrote: > That is a fantastic idea... perhaps whomever you appoint to be the secretary > can keep the P.O Box key. secretary/postmaster? Killing two birds with one stone. > perhaps making it C.O.D, then the treasurer can keep track of any small > amount of funds that need to go postage and paper costs... I think U.S mail > is sufficiant...3rd class/bulk rate of course. provided that we're actually mailing in bulk. > And any mosey above what it take for rOTTEN to get to Nashville could go to > me to by liquor for us in Nashville. You're going to be in Nashville too? Cool. > >I think a Free Kevin serape would be quite en vogue.. > That is fabulous.... of course we need very fashionable hair designers as > well Look, I don't know who you think you are, but you don't have to make light of the situation. > Indeed, my apologies as well, just trying to throw in some > ligt-heartedness...carry on :) Oh...well, I guess that's okay then. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 06:14:51 +0000 From: kerry Subject: [mitnick] Back in court Wednesday Dec. 2 at 3:00 pm (PST) Kevin will be back in court for the hearing of the motions filed November 24. It'll be up to Judge Pfaelzer to decide whether the government's violations (detailed in those motions) will matter, or not. This is going to be a very important decision in the case... hopefully the govt's misbehavior will be recognized as such. http://www.kevinmitnick.com/news.html has links to the motions and related info. *********************************************************** FREE KEVIN bumperstickers http://www.mindspring.com/~jump0 *********************************************************** PO Box 17435 - Raleigh NC 27619 - email jump0@mindspring.com checks/money orders payable to "Free Kevin Publicity Fund" *********************************************************** Stickers are sold at cost plus postage - we make no profit from this effort - donations are split equally between Kevin's Defense Fund and the Free Kevin Publicity Fund. *********************************************************** F R E E K E V I N http://www.KevinMitnick.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 06:39:27 -0400 From: che guevara Subject: Re: [mitnick] Chapters.... the pgp key...i don't know..my pgp key 2048 bits (pretty long) but i do like your idea about the member cards...if anyone wishes to come up with a design...please make it into .jpg or Photoshop format and I'll see if I like it. I'm estimated about $10-15 of the dues will go to the defense fund. Telephreak & I are in the process of writing the Charter and Bylaws. I think he will post what we have so far soon. rOTTEN wrote: > Who's going to write the Free Kevin national charter? > Well, it's probably better that you not have any clear-cut ideas on what > the club will be about...that way there's no limits to your creativity. > > I would hope that most would go to the defense fund. In fact, I would > hope that it ALL would go to the defense fund. But I can see that you'd > want to be reimbursed for costs incurred making duplicates of the by-laws > and the charter. > > And I'm still curious what the membership cards are going to look like. > > You could have each person's PGP key on the back of it. > > <..rOTTEN..> - -- che guevara "I never think of the future - it comes soon enough." [albert einstein] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 06:43:52 -0400 From: che guevara Subject: Re: [mitnick] Chapters.... well...i haven't discussed this with telephreak yet...but I was thinking possibly putting the bylaws on a disk...much easier - -- che guevara "I never think of the future - it comes soon enough." [albert einstein] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 06:58:05 EST From: SkyFireZ@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] Takedown.com In a message dated 11/30/98 2:27:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, squatex@nettaxi.com writes: << My personal favorite is the telnet sessions of mitnick "hacking" >> Thats something I forgot to mention, the telnet sessions wouldn't connect.. Which sucked b/c that must have been pretty damn funny to watch.. AcidRayne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 07:01:12 EST From: SkyFireZ@aol.com Subject: [mitnick] "Computer Hacker on the Lam again" Computer Hacker on the Lam Again .c The Associated Press LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Computer hacker-turned-government informant Justin Petersen, who claims he helped put superhacker Kevin Mitnick in jail, is on the run himself. The flamboyant, long-haired, one-legged hacker known to computer outlaws as ``Agent Steal'' is accused of skipping out on his probation in September. Federal marshals have a warrant for his arrest. In a letter posted on his now-defunct Web site, Petersen claims to have found an unspecified job overseas, but is thinking about coming home to surrender. ``I am still considering simply turning myself in and getting it over with,'' he wrote. ``Regardless, if I happen to get apprehended, it will be of little concern to me.'' The letter appeared after the Daily News of Los Angeles left a message on his telephone answering machine, which simply notifies callers ``I'm gone, baby,'' the paper reported Monday. Petersen, 38, a native of Lincoln, Neb., was known to hang out at Sunset Strip clubs, he wore his hair rock-star long and made the rounds with attractive women, even after a motorcycle accident cost him his left leg below the knee. He said he's still living the good life. ``Alas, rest assured I am somewhere having fun with a nice-looking lady, enjoying the first freedom I have felt in some time,'' he wrote. He was on probation after pleading guilty in 1993 to federal crimes committed in California and Texas, including credit card fraud that involved stealing data from a credit information firm. He also admitted to helping other hackers rig a radio station promotion by seizing control of telephone lines so they could be the winning callers. However, under a plea agreement, he remained out of prison while helping the government in an ``undercover capacity,'' as one court document put it. Petersen claimed the FBI paid his rent and flew him to computer conferences to spy on other hackers. He also says he helped show Mitnick was committing offenses while on probation for previous computer crimes. Mitnick faces trial in Los Angeles in January. Mitnick is the only hacker to make the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list. He was arrested in 1995, accused of stealing 20,000 credit card numbers. Prosecutors say that Petersen got into Glendale-based Heller Financial Inc. computers and paid himself $150,000, phoning in two bomb threats to make sure wire transfer officers were away from their desks during his hacking sprees. Court records show that Petersen was accused this summer of violating four tenets of his release agreement, which ordered him to pay $40,000 and stay away from computers except at work. ``I had a personality conflict with my parole office and could not come to terms,'' he wrote in his Web site letter. His parole officer wanted him to take a full-time job to repay the $40,000, and ``for me that is physically impossible,'' he wrote, adding that he could face six to eight months in jail if he surrenders or is caught. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 07:46:50 -0600 From: Larry Subject: Re: [mitnick] Chapters.... AcidRayneWrote > And although the 2600 meetings do span across most of the US, it isn't > completely accessable to the general public. There are many places that are > without a 2600 meeting that is attended without a long trip... > Des Moines Iowa as an example, anyone in the area care to meet? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 06:06:09 PST From: "Kamikaze Kaze" Subject: [mitnick] to:owner-mitnick... well of course it`s illegal, hacking is. But still, think of it.the one important hacking rule is not to damage any systems, but what if we could go in to their computers put a "free kevin" sign so that it was shown as fast as they opened their computer or the internet. Anna. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 06:16:35 PST From: "Kamikaze Kaze" Subject: [mitnick] to:Che guevara... Hej, all of you guys and girls that read this, In the beginning i thoght you all were so angry that you`d do all these things that i write about.But now i realise that you take this much better then i do, you have much more experince. You must forgive me for wanting to rush forvard so fast, but i`m a beginner and all i think of now...well i don`t realise the tecnology they have because i live in sweden. People aren`t just as advanced here, if someone just gave me a secure "way of doing" i think i could hack into the polices computors and implant a free kevin image. But i doubt it very much. Thanks for you attention people. Anna. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 06:22:12 PST From: "Kamikaze Kaze" Subject: [mitnick] tO:Jackdarippa... well sure, there`s some guy that want to write a song about kevin, search for him. If you read this(the guy who want to make the song), contact Jackdarippa. Kamikazen. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 06:26:56 PST From: "Kamikaze Kaze" Subject: [mitnick] Crazy thoughts eh? Almost all of you guys probably thnik i`M crazy or stupid or something, but remember; Sometimes only the crazy one will win the game. Think of it. Kamikazen. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 06:36:44 PST From: "Kamikaze Kaze" Subject: [mitnick] Hacking the goverment computers...2 Who is big brother and little sister? Do you want me to crsh the goverments computorsystems? To everyone:I`m tiered of this shit with you coping my message, soon i will have 20 copys! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 06:45:48 PST From: "Kamikaze Kaze" Subject: [none] OK. YOU wrote that you wanted to do a song about kevin being in jail, aldought i should have realised that ether yiu diden`t write it or you were like drunk or something. I`ve got 3 guy that can play drums and guitarr if you weren`t drunk at the time, or if you just changed your mind. There is one more posibility of course, i might have been a mail from someone else. forgive my extremly bad spelling, i`m swedish. Kamikazen. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 06:54:17 PST From: "Kamikaze Kaze" Subject: [mitnick] to the Phenixguy... am I doing what to spite you? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 06:57:12 PST From: "Kamikaze Kaze" Subject: [mitnick] to the man of Phenix... ok, i just send on then... Kamikazen. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:13:16 -0400 From: patty@inch.com Subject: [mitnick] Re: It wasn't me >OK. > >YOU wrote that you wanted to do a song about kevin being in jail, >aldought i should have realised that ether yiu diden`t write it or you >were like drunk or something. >I`ve got 3 guy that can play drums and guitarr if you weren`t drunk at >the time, or if you just changed your mind. >There is one more posibility of course, i might have been a mail from >someone else. >forgive my extremly bad spelling, i`m swedish. >Kamikazen. > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "It Is Easier To Ask Forgiveness Than Permission" :) ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:22:02 +0100 From: Johan Hedberg Subject: Re: [mitnick] Hacking the goverment computers...2 >Who is big brother and little sister? >Do you want me to crsh the goverments computorsystems? >To everyone:I`m tiered of this shit with you coping my message, soon i >will have 20 copys! Sorry for this, all of you non-swedes, but the following lines contains some explicit lyrics in swedish. I just have to tell her to shut the f**k up and as a fellow swede I'm embarrased of the way she behaves. ____________________________ Vad är det här för dumheter? Precis som den här listan inte behöver. Vad är vi alla här för? För att framstå som wannabe-hackers? För att låta som om vi kunde ta kontroll över alla datorer genom att bara titta på dem? För att knäcka alla statliga servrar och skriva FreeKevin överallt på dem? Nej, nej, nej!!! Vi är här för att diskutera hur vi på lämpligast sätt kan underlätta för Kevin, få folk att förstå att han inte får en mänsklig behandling samt på lämplig sätt verka för en snabb rättegång. Och till vilken kategori sällar du dig? Om du nu är så ung så att du inte klarar engelskan så använd för sjutton ett lexikon! Det är tamejf*n ett stavfel i varenda mening!!! Hur framstår du i deras ögon och hur sjutton framstår vi svenskar? Tillåt mig ett citat: 'You must forgive me for wanting to rush forvard so fast, but i`m a beginner and all i think of now...well i don`t realise the tecnology they have because i live in sweden.' Lever vi i ett j*vla U-land!?!?! Vad är det du menar?!?! 'Almost all of you guys probably thnik i`M crazy or stupid or something, but remember; Sometimes only the crazy one will win the game. Think of it.' Och vad i h*lvete är det här? Hela den här listan är ju fullkomligt översvämmad av meningslösa mail och här kommer det en som inte kan samla sina tankar i mindre än 6 mail! Helt otroligt... ____________________________ So shut the FUCK up 'til you have something _really_ important to say! Sorry if it sounds like I'm pissed off, but I'm so tired of having a mailbox that every morning is filled with meaningless crap, not concerning KDM even the slightest. So please, this is to you all: Keep the crap of the list or all the work that Kerry and other do will be completely useless. Take care, Johan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 09:03:02 -0600 From: "poiSiN" Subject: Re: [mitnick] to the man of Phenix... Kamikaze... Congratulations!!! You just won a direct route to my trash bin. I doubt you are Swedish with a poor capacity for the English language. I have a sneaky suspicion you are just a dip shit. Cheers! ~poiSiNous "Leave me alone...I'm feeling rOTTEN" poiSiNous/Cattitude/SinKitty ICQ : 2359153 AIM : KiSSKiLL poiSiNous Lair : http://members.xoom.com/poiSiNous/Lair.html - -----Original Message----- From: Kamikaze Kaze To: mitnick@2600.com Date: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 9:13 AM Subject: [mitnick] to the man of Phenix... >ok, i just send on then... >Kamikazen. > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 12:03:59 -0500 From: Mick Szucs Subject: [mitnick] Miscellaneous stuff from Agent Squeal FYI - http://www.grayarea.com/compsec.htm couple of articles by Justin Petersen. Some other neat stuff as well. mick teotwawki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 12:57:27 -0500 From: Mick Szucs Subject: Re: [mitnick] Chapters... More IFY http://www.paranoia.com/~mthreat/ Thanks for your post. I hadn't heard anything about Minor Threat since I stopped playing with Toneloc something over six years ago. (Amazing program... hours of amusement) I didn't even know he was doing time. Here's a bunch of info about him and his sentence. Still in jail for another 459 days, 20 hours, 7 minutes, provided the clock is right. mick teotwawki Edith Crabtree wrote: > Minor Threat went to jail (I'm not sure whether he's still in), and no > one made a sound concerning his situation. For those of you who don't > know, Minor Threat coded the famous war dialer program ToneLoc. I > don't know what excatly he went to jail for, (something computer > related I believe, if not for programming ToneLoc). However, no one > said a word, (I think Emmanuel mentioned it once on Off The Hook, but > that's about it). He just went to jail. I quess the public outcry > movement is selective in it's battles. Or the individuals involved, > (those in or going to jail), are not all equal. It's funny how some > people who encourage those who are arrested, to hold out in jail or to > not cop a plea, aren't the ones sitting in jail or have ever been > arrested for that matter. Phiber Optik didn't cop a plea, he held out > like a real stand up guy. He also did the most time out of all the > MOD group. > > Be careful or you will get (be) used. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:27:13 -0800 (PST) From: rOTTEN Subject: Re: [mitnick] Miscellaneous stuff from Agent Squeal On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Mick Szucs wrote: > FYI - > > http://www.grayarea.com/compsec.htm > > couple of articles by Justin Petersen. Some other neat stuff as well. In addition to his MANY faults, Justin Petersen is a HORRIBLE writer. His style is for shit, his grammar and spelling are lackluster at best and basically he just wants to write like Poulsen. Ring, ring, ring everybody sing as justin swings from our ding-a-lings. <..rOTTEN..> nobody move, nobody get hurt error187(1) critical failure - - - - - - To do: 1) Update my "To do" list. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:37:46 -0800 (PST) From: rOTTEN Subject: Re: [mitnick] Chapters.... On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, che guevara wrote: > the pgp key...i don't know..my pgp key 2048 bits (pretty long) Yeah, that is pretty long...but when you've got so much to say and you're runnin' Free Kevin chapters and stuff like you, you gotta have the deep encryption. That way the feds don't know what you're up to. Although I would suggest that if you don't want people to know what you're up to, you may want to get rid of this stuff from your .sig file: > che guevara > > > > > but i do like your idea about the member cards... Totally man. You could get them laminated and everything...so they look like access badges for high security stuff... you know, like in the movies. Maybe even a fake thumb print or something. > if anyone wishes to > come up with a design...please make it into .jpg or Photoshop format and > I'll see if I like it. Well, as long as YOU like it, I guess that's all that matters. Hell I think I"ll design one...I hope my design pleases you. > I'm estimated about $10-15 of the dues will go to the defense fund. Hmm. that doesn't sound like a lot of money. What exactly is the other $5 per member being spent on? I'd need to see an expense sheet before forking over my $20. Unless that $5 goes to me for designing the membership cards. Or does the $5 go toward building the Honeycomb Hideout? > Telephreak & I are in the process of writing the > Charter and Bylaws. I think he will post what we have so far soon. Oh good. Hopefully you guys will be done with that before Kevin Mitnick is done serving his time. <..rOTTEN..> nobody move, nobody get hurt error187(1) critical failure - - - - - - To do: 1) Update my "To do" list. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 11:49:56 -0800 (PST) From: rOTTEN Subject: Re: [mitnick] Chapters.... This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. 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In a message dated 12/01/98 7:07:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, cguevara@mindless.com writes: << well...i haven't discussed this with telephreak yet...but I was thinking possibly putting the bylaws on a disk...much easier >> just get mail adress's and mail the bylaws, even easier ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:20:53 EST From: SkyFireZ@aol.com Subject: [mitnick] Re: In a message dated 12/1/98 10:04:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, kamikazen@hotmail.com writes: << There is one more posibility of course, i might have been a mail from someone else. >> Actually it was a post, but Im not the one who started the string... i just replied... Pardon me if I had seemed rude.. AcidRayne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:21:46 EST From: DINOMITE1@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] Chapters.... In a message dated 12/01/98 9:12:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, Larry@psicomputer.com writes: << AcidRayneWrote > And although the 2600 meetings do span across most of the US, it isn't > completely accessable to the general public. There are many places that are > without a 2600 meeting that is attended without a long trip... > Des Moines Iowa as an example, anyone in the area care to meet? >> if there isn't a meeting in your area, do what Larry here did, start your own. Go to the 2600 website (www.2600.com) and check out the rules for their meetings. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:24:09 EST From: SkyFireZ@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] Chapters.... In a message dated 11/30/98 7:24:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, jackr1pp@unixfreak.com writes: << How do you propose we find interested people in our cities or towns? I mean, if we're just gonna find friends of ours who we already know and do it, then what's the point..... >> If you only meet people that know the plight (excuse the term) of kevin Mitnick, that eliminates the point doesnt it?? Start small... a group of friends.. tell people about it, then when it gets a bit popular, then start the Kevin Mitnick chapter... Acid ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:24:23 EST From: DINOMITE1@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] Hacking the goverment computers...2 In a message dated 12/01/98 10:00:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, kamikazen@hotmail.com writes: << Who is big brother and little sister? Do you want me to crsh the goverments computorsystems? To everyone:I`m tiered of this shit with you coping my message, soon i will have 20 copys! >> I don't think that we want to hack the gov. comp. b/c, as someone previously stated, that would just be creating another prob. - -Rold Gold ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:26:04 EST From: SkyFireZ@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] Hacking the government computers... In a message dated 11/30/98 7:57:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, service@internetforall.com writes: << The main point that I was trying to make was that you don't solve a problem by creating another problem. I was using the murder of blacks as an example. >> I get your point.... just a bad example..no disrespect intended.. Acidrayne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:31:32 EST From: DINOMITE1@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] Chapters.... In a message dated 12/01/98 2:22:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, rotten@cyberverse.com writes: << > come up with a design...please make it into .jpg or Photoshop format and > I'll see if I like it. Well, as long as YOU like it, I guess that's all that matters. Hell I think I"ll design one...I hope my design pleases you. >> Lets have a design contest, everyone should submit their design as .jpg or somethin common like that and we can all vote on em - -- - -Rold Gold "The only thing that interferes with my education is my schooling" -A.E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:32:51 EST From: SkyFireZ@aol.com Subject: [mitnick] **off-topic**re: mails from kamikazen..(speaking of wasted space) No offence to Kamikazen of course.... (maybe) but didnt we just get over the fact of wasted space on the board?? And look at this..... ::sigh:: AcidRayne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:54:18 -0800 (PST) From: rOTTEN Subject: Re: [mitnick] "Computer Hacker on the Lam again" > The flamboyant, long-haired, one-legged hacker known to computer outlaws as > ``Agent Steal'' is accused of skipping out on his probation in September. > Federal marshals have a warrant for his arrest. How does a one-legged hacker leave town? With a hop, skip and a thump. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 15:59:17 -0400 From: che guevara Subject: Re: [mitnick] Hacking the goverment computers...2 big brother...from 1984 (but it from the link) Kamikaze Kaze wrote: > Who is big brother and little sister? - -- che guevara "I never think of the future - it comes soon enough." [albert einstein] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 16:13:35 -0400 From: che guevara Subject: Re: [mitnick] Chapters.... rOTTEN wrote: > Yeah, that is pretty long...but when you've got so much to say and you're > runnin' Free Kevin chapters and stuff like you, you gotta have the deep > encryption. That way the feds don't know what you're up to. Well, I shortened it to 512, but it's still too long to put on back of a card. > Well, as long as YOU like it, I guess that's all that matters. Hell I > think I"ll design one...I hope my design pleases you. i meant if it will look appropriate > Hmm. that doesn't sound like a lot of money. What exactly is the other > $5 per member being spent on? I'd need to see an expense sheet before > forking over my $20. well, $15 to defense & $5 to mail > Oh good. Hopefully you guys will be done with that before Kevin Mitnick > is done serving his time. we're almost done - -- che guevara "I never think of the future - it comes soon enough." [albert einstein] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 16:14:58 -0400 From: che guevara Subject: Re: [mitnick] Chapters.... i like that...i'll discuss using it w/ telephreak rOTTEN wrote: > > This is my special little gift for Che Guevara and TelePhreak > > True revolutionaries. - -- che guevara "I never think of the future - it comes soon enough." [albert einstein] ------------------------------ End of mitnick-digest V1 #207 *****************************