[00:02.620 --> 00:13.560]  I'm, in my lecture, going to be comparing the barbarians and the role they played in the Roman Empire to hackers in modern imperialist America.
[00:14.460 --> 00:22.800]  I don't have any projections, so if anyone wants to make funny little shadows on the wall, that's alright, to compliment my presentation.
[00:25.620 --> 00:32.840]  Alright, and just really wanted to say, it's kind of funny that my big brother actually looks exactly like this guy.
[00:33.860 --> 00:34.700]  Okay, I'm sorry.
[00:35.000 --> 00:36.640]  Okay, anyway, on with my presentation.
[00:36.900 --> 00:46.920]  Okay, well my whole thesis statement was that in the time of the Roman Empire, they controlled, you know, basically what was known as Western civilization at the time.
[00:47.860 --> 00:50.840]  The barbarians were the enemies to their society.
[00:51.960 --> 00:53.100]  They're savages.
[00:53.500 --> 00:56.860]  They lived on the outskirts of the whole society.
[00:57.180 --> 01:02.180]  You know, they were kind of revolting, terrible people that, you know, everyone hated so much.
[01:03.180 --> 01:25.940]  And today, the United States, in their own, you know, trying to make themselves the center of the civilization, you know, in making their own type of structured culture, they're now encountering a new enemy, which can actually be compared, which are the hackers,
[01:26.160 --> 01:26.940]  the hacker community.
[01:28.340 --> 01:40.700]  Before I can actually go into actually making this comparison, I just want to talk about history and the cyclical nature, or the possible cyclical nature of history.
[01:42.080 --> 01:56.500]  So, if I'm going to actually, excuse me, make comparisons of, you know, something that happened, you know, over a thousand years ago, and something that's happening today, that it is kind of important to take a look at history and time in general.
[01:56.500 --> 02:05.560]  Now, if you really take a... if you think about history, and you think of the nature of history, history moves with time, right?
[02:05.860 --> 02:09.180]  So, you know, without time, there is no history.
[02:09.320 --> 02:16.680]  The reason how us, as humans, can recognize anything historical is by, you know, looking back in time.
[02:16.920 --> 02:21.020]  So, history and time are running completely parallel with one another.
[02:22.100 --> 02:31.320]  In that sense, really, I mean, since time's continuous, time doesn't stop, you know, then how can history be cyclical?
[02:31.340 --> 02:37.960]  If it's parallel, if it never stops, if it continuously moves, how can we possibly say that history is a cyclical thing?
[02:38.040 --> 02:44.380]  I'm sure everyone's heard, you know, the expression, you know, history is doomed to repeat itself, or, you know, something of that ilk, you know.
[02:44.600 --> 02:47.760]  Okay, maybe you haven't heard it, but if you have, then you know what I'm saying.
[02:48.360 --> 02:54.240]  It's not too difficult to actually argue against that in the respect that history never really does stop.
[02:54.500 --> 02:57.260]  So, how can it loop back and actually repeat itself?
[02:59.940 --> 03:04.180]  But, if you really, you know, you take a look at history.
[03:04.460 --> 03:06.280]  Now, what is history?
[03:06.480 --> 03:13.200]  History is what we remember of generations past, of societies past.
[03:14.020 --> 03:20.320]  If we take a look at humans, where humans come from, I mean, no matter what...
[03:23.850 --> 03:26.970]  And over the last...
[03:30.940 --> 03:39.440]  We've, you know, adapted to our surroundings, and even gone so far to make our surroundings actually adapt to us.
[03:40.560 --> 03:46.660]  You know, in the beginning, when people were, you know, living in a state of nature, you know, we had to...
[03:46.660 --> 03:53.680]  Or, you know, the humanity had to actually, you know, conform, conform to nature, conform to your surroundings.
[03:57.140 --> 04:04.080]  Eventually, ultimately, people began, you know, banding together, creating societies, groups of people working together.
[04:04.940 --> 04:18.560]  And, you know, these groups, really, as we're going to see later, somewhat almost stopped the physical evolution of humanity as being adaptable towards nature.
[04:18.920 --> 04:21.140]  So, for example, we don't have to go out and hunt anymore.
[04:21.200 --> 04:23.060]  I don't have to go out and kill anybody.
[04:23.360 --> 04:27.000]  You know, the law will take care of that for me, you know, if I really need them to, you know.
[04:27.000 --> 04:37.340]  So, you know, in that sense, we've created these societies and these groups that help, you know, bring everybody together, govern everything.
[04:38.180 --> 04:57.800]  And even though they've somewhat stopped the physical evolution of, you know, the species, interestingly enough, by living inside the society and by conforming to the bounds that we've created, we're actually now evolving within the bounds of our society.
[04:57.800 --> 05:07.840]  And, you know, since we do that, as societies fall and collapse, history does, you know, tend to actually repeat itself.
[05:10.500 --> 05:24.160]  So, even though it is a complete continuum, and it actually never does stop, you can't deny the single nature of biology and of evolution and of, you know, all that good scientific stuff like that.
[05:25.180 --> 05:38.700]  And so, therefore, since, you know, even though history and society are running parallel to time, because they're ultimately based on natural principles, they do tend to cycle back.
[05:38.700 --> 05:44.100]  Or, at least, they definitely give the perception of cycling back and repeating themselves.
[05:45.080 --> 05:48.200]  And, you know, history does tend to repeat itself.
[05:55.400 --> 06:12.100]  Even though we're living in the society where people are actually, you know, working together, trying to diversify our talents to work as one whole, the nature of self-love, of, you know, love of the self.
[06:12.340 --> 06:18.680]  It comes back, you know, throughout the ages of, you know, in the Romantic period, you know, the love of the self.
[06:18.900 --> 06:24.620]  And, I mean, no one can really deny the fact that, ultimately, you know, everyone has a little bit of selfishness.
[06:24.760 --> 06:27.100]  I mean, you have to think of yourself at some point, right?
[06:27.440 --> 06:31.780]  I mean, you ultimately have to do things for yourself to survive.
[06:33.620 --> 06:39.880]  This tends to manifest itself more in some people than in others.
[06:42.340 --> 06:50.200]  You know, for example, someone who gets, you know, extremely selfish and greedy with any kind of control or power.
[06:50.340 --> 06:52.780]  They're going to want to get to the top, and they're going to want to stay there.
[06:52.860 --> 06:53.920]  They don't want anyone else up there.
[06:54.060 --> 06:58.120]  So, they're going to try and keep, you know, keep everyone else down underneath them.
[06:58.120 --> 07:10.220]  And in that respect, in a society where, you know, control is necessary to keep everyone within these bounds, to keep them from escaping into the state of nature and to keep them inside, you know, this...
[07:10.220 --> 07:10.720]  Sorry.
[07:11.000 --> 07:19.120]  Inside this, you know, world that we create to make us, you know, for whatever reasons, to make everyone safer or whatever.
[07:22.040 --> 07:26.120]  The self-love, you know, and love of the self needs...
[07:26.840 --> 07:30.020]  I mean, it needs to be discouraged at a larger level.
[07:30.260 --> 07:32.240]  You know, and people... I mean...
[07:32.800 --> 07:33.500]  Okay, look at me.
[07:33.540 --> 07:34.160]  I'm up here talking.
[07:34.360 --> 07:35.220]  Blah, blah, blah, right?
[07:35.440 --> 07:36.040]  I'm talking.
[07:36.200 --> 07:37.300]  You know, but...
[07:37.300 --> 07:39.160]  But I'm...
[07:39.160 --> 07:42.340]  You know, all the people here at this conference that come up here and talk...
[07:42.340 --> 07:45.360]  Well, maybe these are probably a lot of topics that are discouraged in general.
[07:45.360 --> 07:47.820]  You know, that people don't exactly...
[07:47.820 --> 07:52.720]  You know, or the powers that be don't exactly want a lot of these topics out there.
[07:53.860 --> 07:54.980]  And, um...
[07:54.980 --> 07:57.560]  You know, I mean, for their own obvious reasons.
[07:57.580 --> 08:02.880]  They need to oppress those types of desires to further their own.
[08:03.200 --> 08:04.160]  And, uh...
[08:04.160 --> 08:07.360]  In that respect, um...
[08:08.580 --> 08:09.140]  Right.
[08:09.380 --> 08:14.100]  Self-love is important, but, unfortunately, tends to be extremely denied.
[08:14.100 --> 08:16.820]  Now, if we take a look at the actual Roman Empire.
[08:17.060 --> 08:17.360]  Okay?
[08:17.980 --> 08:18.340]  Um...
[08:18.340 --> 08:20.360]  They had this extensive set of manners.
[08:20.500 --> 08:21.360]  What they called manners.
[08:21.560 --> 08:21.660]  You know?
[08:21.720 --> 08:22.740]  It's like, uh...
[08:22.740 --> 08:23.920]  Okay, I'm a Roman.
[08:24.380 --> 08:25.020]  You know...
[08:25.020 --> 08:25.680]  Uh...
[08:25.680 --> 08:27.720]  You know, I don't go out and do stuff.
[08:27.820 --> 08:28.620]  I don't get my hands dirty.
[08:28.620 --> 08:29.080]  I'm a Roman.
[08:29.340 --> 08:29.720]  You know?
[08:29.820 --> 08:30.480]  I'm a citizen.
[08:30.880 --> 08:31.100]  I...
[08:31.100 --> 08:32.560]  You know, I got the army to protect me.
[08:32.740 --> 08:35.460]  I got, you know, food whenever I want it from the granaries.
[08:35.580 --> 08:36.600]  I got all the corn I want.
[08:37.100 --> 08:38.060]  All this good stuff.
[08:40.000 --> 08:40.360]  Um...
[08:41.000 --> 08:41.360]  Uh...
[08:41.360 --> 08:46.360]  So, you know, they really ended up almost, um...
[08:47.160 --> 08:47.560]  Uh...
[08:47.960 --> 08:50.680]  You know, de-evolving in a way.
[08:50.960 --> 08:57.280]  The barbarians to the Roman people were perceived as extremely ugly, hideous creatures.
[08:57.620 --> 09:01.480]  Very rough-edged, horrible, mean, terrible people.
[09:01.480 --> 09:02.560]  And, um...
[09:03.000 --> 09:03.560]  You know, the reason...
[09:04.320 --> 09:05.300]  I mean, to...
[09:05.300 --> 09:17.420]  To actually portray them as such, as savages, or even as subhumans, like these destructive people that live on the fringes of society, of, you know, their perfect world.
[09:18.860 --> 09:19.340]  Um...
[09:19.340 --> 09:23.480]  You know, by criminalizing these people, you know, you're creating a...
[09:23.480 --> 09:28.740]  A negative pull for all the citizens to actually, you know, kind of revolt against.
[09:29.080 --> 09:35.720]  And shape themselves in respect to the opposite of what is negative for the society.
[09:35.940 --> 09:37.200]  Or negative for the culture.
[09:37.760 --> 09:38.480]  And, um...
[09:39.460 --> 09:42.300]  So, you know, the barbarians were, you know...
[09:42.300 --> 09:44.020]  Sure, at the time they were big and scary.
[09:44.020 --> 09:48.020]  But being portrayed as such, uh, really helped, um...
[09:48.820 --> 09:49.380]  Uh...
[09:49.380 --> 09:50.300]  Keep the...
[09:50.300 --> 09:54.700]  The masses under control by not wanting to be like these horrible people.
[09:55.260 --> 09:55.680]  Um...
[09:55.680 --> 09:58.060]  In today's culture, interesting, look...
[09:58.060 --> 10:02.400]  Look how the hackers portrayed, you know, throughout everything.
[10:02.640 --> 10:06.700]  I mean, you got like, you know, the skinny, nerdy kid with broken glasses.
[10:07.280 --> 10:08.540]  He's got his pants up to here.
[10:08.980 --> 10:10.960]  You know, not that good with the ladies.
[10:11.440 --> 10:12.180]  You know, he's really smart.
[10:12.180 --> 10:13.380]  Okay, give him that.
[10:13.380 --> 10:14.100]  You know, alright.
[10:14.260 --> 10:14.740]  Smart guy.
[10:14.860 --> 10:15.720]  Knows computers and stuff.
[10:15.880 --> 10:16.220]  But...
[10:17.640 --> 10:18.600]  You know...
[10:18.600 --> 10:21.060]  I don't know if I really want to be like that guy.
[10:21.320 --> 10:22.100]  No one really...
[10:22.100 --> 10:22.880]  Yeah...
[10:22.880 --> 10:23.740]  But, you know, sure.
[10:24.000 --> 10:24.660]  It's not...
[10:24.660 --> 10:25.800]  It's not all true.
[10:26.160 --> 10:27.600]  But it's how it's portrayed.
[10:28.140 --> 10:28.540]  Right?
[10:28.780 --> 10:34.260]  And so then you have the good citizens, or whatever, you know, seeing this negative image.
[10:34.540 --> 10:37.880]  And, you know, sure, sometimes it's funny, sometimes it's whatever.
[10:38.280 --> 10:42.080]  But, um, at the same time, it's that negative pull.
[10:42.080 --> 10:45.860]  The negative pull that, you know, people don't want to be like.
[10:46.040 --> 10:47.740]  You know, they don't feel comfortable in that respect.
[10:48.360 --> 11:07.580]  And, therefore, you know, by giving these negative images, um, you know, and it tries to keep that, you know, the self-identity of these people on the, you know, the fringes, maybe not accepting everything that they're fed by the leaders, you know, it keeps them in a negative light.
[11:07.820 --> 11:15.720]  It gives a, uh, you know, a base portrayal for other people to, you know, oppose themselves to.
[11:16.180 --> 11:26.100]  And, um, you know, just, I mean, overall, it, it may even play upon the consciousness of, of those people.
[11:26.220 --> 11:28.100]  By making them feel bad about themselves.
[11:28.480 --> 11:29.400]  Being, oh, well, you know.
[11:29.900 --> 11:32.000]  Some people may, you know, accept the image.
[11:32.500 --> 11:36.100]  Uh, I have broken glasses, but I don't accept the image.
[11:36.100 --> 11:42.580]  But, um, so, alright, well, let's actually take a look, you know, who, who were the barbarians?
[11:42.980 --> 11:44.240]  What are barbarians?
[11:44.360 --> 11:45.380]  What are barbarians, anyway?
[11:45.940 --> 12:00.600]  Um, the barbarians were, like I said, you know, they were from, well, if you take a look at the, the Western Roman Empire, you had, uh, the Germanic tribes of Northern Europe, right, the Goths, the Vandals, uh, ultimately were the ones that came down and were like,
[12:00.660 --> 12:02.000]  alright, Rome, bam, bam, bam.
[12:02.180 --> 12:09.700]  Take, psh, that was the, however, you know, um, a long time ago, the Roman Empire actually split up into two different empires.
[12:09.840 --> 12:14.720]  So, you had the Western Empire, which was based in Rome, you know, Italy, Europe, and stuff.
[12:14.840 --> 12:21.600]  Then you had the Eastern Empire, which was based in Constantinople, you know, based in Turkey, um, much of Asia.
[12:22.940 --> 12:28.460]  The European barbarians overthrew the Western Roman, uh, the Western Roman Empire first.
[12:28.740 --> 12:31.380]  Uh, long before the Eastern Empire was destroyed.
[12:32.220 --> 12:33.300]  You know, um...
[12:34.100 --> 12:49.420]  After a while, you know, the barbarians eventually, you know, couldn't take the control of the Romans anymore, which I'll touch more on in a minute, and eventually, ultimately, you know, killed a bunch of them, took over themselves.
[12:50.560 --> 12:58.120]  And eventually, the same thing happened a long time later, but in the Eastern Empire as well, based in Constantinople, based in Turkey.
[12:59.580 --> 13:18.300]  The Eastern Empire ended up staying in power much longer, and ultimately, actually, even went through and, you know, beat up a lot of the barbarians that had settled in Africa and Italy, and went through and took over most of their empire again, and ultimately were overthrown by the Asian barbarian tribes.
[13:18.300 --> 13:24.240]  So, those were the barbarians.
[13:24.400 --> 13:32.300]  They were from, you know, Asia, Northern Europe, basically people that were closer, you know, closer to nature.
[13:33.160 --> 13:38.100]  They valued their freedom more, and, you know, they didn't really appreciate the Roman control over them.
[13:39.340 --> 13:42.700]  And, ultimately, it played against the Romans.
[13:43.300 --> 13:46.280]  If we take a look at how, you know, control.
[13:46.560 --> 13:47.040]  Why?
[13:47.420 --> 13:48.960]  Why would the barbarians revolt?
[13:49.200 --> 13:50.160]  Why would they do this?
[13:50.340 --> 13:50.960]  What happened?
[13:51.140 --> 13:52.380]  What went wrong with the Romans?
[13:52.660 --> 14:01.140]  You know, they had this great civilization, they built roads everywhere, you know, they built cool buildings, and they had rocks and stones and all kinds of good stuff.
[14:01.140 --> 14:10.060]  But, um, uh, um, if you think about control, and controlling a people, right?
[14:10.440 --> 14:13.600]  Control in general, I mean, there's a whole bunch of different ways you can control people.
[14:13.820 --> 14:15.000]  Right now, you're all listening to me.
[14:15.640 --> 14:18.820]  But, uh, you know, I'm not telling you what to do, I'm not controlling you.
[14:19.100 --> 14:21.020]  I mean, it's the environment we're in.
[14:21.220 --> 14:25.920]  This environment we're in, you know, you're standing there listening to what people are telling you all day.
[14:26.040 --> 14:29.980]  Or, you know, you're just listening it, and then weighing it, and reasoning with it yourself.
[14:32.100 --> 14:35.500]  In the Roman Empire, they would control their people.
[14:35.680 --> 14:40.960]  You know, they'd go in with big organized armies and swords and bop people on the head and be like, all right, bam, we're taking you over.
[14:41.120 --> 14:48.700]  And you know, if you've got 20 guys with swords running into your house and you're eating dinner, you're like, ah, ah, all right, whatever, fine, dude, take my money, get out of here.
[14:48.940 --> 14:49.060]  What?
[14:49.440 --> 14:50.280]  You know, but they would stay.
[14:50.620 --> 14:54.300]  And eventually, you know, the people, I mean, they had to accept this.
[14:54.460 --> 14:56.420]  They had, basically, they had no choice.
[14:56.880 --> 15:00.920]  Because they were, you know, imposed upon with a physical control.
[15:01.100 --> 15:04.920]  And if they got out of line, all right, kill them, beat them up, chop them, whatever.
[15:05.040 --> 15:05.780]  Whatever it takes.
[15:07.020 --> 15:13.320]  That's probably the most obvious, you know, form of controlling anything.
[15:13.500 --> 15:15.340]  You know, physical force.
[15:16.260 --> 15:18.440]  I mean, it's so obvious and apparent, right?
[15:18.560 --> 15:24.020]  Like, if someone comes up to you and punches you in the face, then you, you know, your face hurts.
[15:24.360 --> 15:27.360]  You know, there's all your, all these people around being like, whoa, what?
[15:27.540 --> 15:28.720]  That guy just punched him in the face.
[15:28.920 --> 15:29.340]  You know?
[15:29.580 --> 15:33.040]  Or, you know, you can't deny that it happened.
[15:33.180 --> 15:36.340]  There's no way to actually say, all right, I didn't just get punched in the face.
[15:36.420 --> 15:39.080]  Because when you look in the mirror, you got a big black eye or something, broken nose or something.
[15:40.160 --> 15:47.040]  So something like that, I mean, it's not only completely obvious and blatant, but physical harm is not cool.
[15:47.200 --> 15:48.140]  I mean, no one likes it.
[15:48.440 --> 15:50.720]  Like, if I hurt myself, it hurts.
[15:51.120 --> 15:51.440]  Ouch.
[15:51.640 --> 15:52.520]  I don't want to get hurt.
[15:52.780 --> 15:56.440]  You know, I especially don't want someone else coming over and bopping me with a sword or something.
[15:56.960 --> 15:57.900]  Ah, what are you doing?
[15:58.420 --> 15:58.600]  You know?
[15:58.880 --> 16:01.960]  So ultimately, people resent this.
[16:02.300 --> 16:03.920]  Any type of physical control.
[16:04.380 --> 16:11.440]  I mean, and today, today, what's the easiest type of, of, of societies or leadership to revolt against?
[16:11.460 --> 16:19.760]  The people, you know, the leaders in countries that torture their people or do horrible things or, you know, genocides and massacres and all this stuff.
[16:19.840 --> 16:21.300]  You see that and you're like, whoa, massacre.
[16:21.520 --> 16:22.180]  You can't do that.
[16:22.220 --> 16:22.760]  That's not cool.
[16:23.400 --> 16:24.740]  Um, right.
[16:25.000 --> 16:25.720]  It's not cool.
[16:26.280 --> 16:37.660]  Ah, so, you know, if you think about it, um, if a leader is going to stay in control, right, and they want to be really, really smart about it, they know they can't just go beat you up.
[16:37.800 --> 16:41.820]  They know they can't just go pound on you and say, all right, you're going to listen to me now.
[16:42.040 --> 16:43.780]  Because, yeah, you might listen to them for a little while.
[16:44.000 --> 16:47.880]  But eventually, you know, hey, you might go to the gym and work out every day and then go beat them up.
[16:48.020 --> 16:51.320]  Or you might get all your friends together and be like, yo, we don't want to get beat up anymore and go beat them up.
[16:51.520 --> 16:54.980]  You know, which is ultimately what happened with the barbarians.
[16:55.060 --> 16:55.860]  They wanted their freedom.
[16:56.160 --> 17:00.640]  And when a bunch of, uh, you know, Roman people come in there and say, okay, you're going to speak Roman now.
[17:00.800 --> 17:02.080]  Okay, you're going to pay us taxes.
[17:02.520 --> 17:03.760]  Okay, you're going to do what we say.
[17:04.000 --> 17:07.300]  You know, after a while, they were like, what?
[17:07.600 --> 17:08.900]  We spoke German before.
[17:09.260 --> 17:10.700]  We didn't have any problems.
[17:10.940 --> 17:13.660]  We didn't have to pay all the taxes and stuff.
[17:14.040 --> 17:15.260]  Sorry, someone left their banner.
[17:15.260 --> 17:23.660]  So, you know, um, after a while, the resentment became so strong that the barbarians said, all right, that's it.
[17:23.780 --> 17:24.740]  We're not taking this anymore.
[17:25.080 --> 17:29.140]  And, uh, I mean, history.
[17:29.320 --> 17:31.580]  They went in and they kicked the Romans out.
[17:31.740 --> 17:32.700]  And they took over Italy.
[17:32.780 --> 17:33.480]  They took over Africa.
[17:33.700 --> 17:35.460]  And eventually, you know, the Huns attacked Asia.
[17:35.700 --> 17:44.800]  They got repelled, but all the other Asian tribes, but they kept attacking and attacking for years until finally the Turks came in and brought the Eastern Roman Empire down.
[17:44.800 --> 17:48.220]  And that, that was the end of, uh, that was the end of Rome.
[17:49.140 --> 17:54.520]  If we take a look at society today, the principles haven't changed.
[17:55.000 --> 17:59.680]  It's, you have to impose some type of method of control over people.
[18:00.140 --> 18:00.920]  Yeah, all right.
[18:00.920 --> 18:03.600]  Most people want to work together because we want to be comfortable.
[18:04.100 --> 18:06.540]  You know, it's nice having good stuff.
[18:06.800 --> 18:09.500]  Like, if you have, like, a hot tub or something.
[18:09.580 --> 18:10.240]  That's cool, man.
[18:10.300 --> 18:11.240]  I like having a hot tub.
[18:11.300 --> 18:12.960]  If I lived in the woods, I wouldn't have a hot tub, right?
[18:13.140 --> 18:14.680]  I'd get bitten by bugs all the time.
[18:15.040 --> 18:15.800]  Who wants that?
[18:15.860 --> 18:17.260]  I'd have to look for my own food.
[18:17.540 --> 18:19.380]  So convenient to go to the grocery store and buy whatever.
[18:19.740 --> 18:23.660]  You know, so, you know, the benefits of society and culture, they're great.
[18:23.660 --> 18:26.120]  You know, there's all kinds of good stuff that happens all the time.
[18:27.080 --> 18:33.220]  But, you know, there's always, you know, there's always, um, ulterior motives.
[18:33.360 --> 18:46.680]  I mean, people don't, you know, ultimately, probably, maybe, a lot of people go into politics, go into professional leadership roles, thinking, okay, you know, I'm, uh, I'm gonna do good.
[18:46.680 --> 18:49.200]  You know, I want to do right for the people.
[18:49.380 --> 18:50.300]  I want to do it right.
[18:50.540 --> 18:51.860]  You know, I, I feel bad.
[18:52.100 --> 18:55.100]  Okay, good example, like, okay, uh, taxes.
[18:55.240 --> 19:00.960]  The last big tax cut we had mostly affected rich, you know, or upper class, people that made a lot of money.
[19:01.440 --> 19:03.700]  So, okay, what about the people that don't make a lot of money?
[19:03.840 --> 19:07.620]  Like, if I looked at my own taxes, I, I didn't really get a tax cut.
[19:07.700 --> 19:09.020]  I didn't get any money back or anything like that.
[19:09.080 --> 19:13.540]  So I think, alright, you know, everyone's talking about this tax cut, I don't get it.
[19:13.620 --> 19:14.120]  You know what?
[19:14.460 --> 19:14.900]  That's it.
[19:14.900 --> 19:16.300]  I'm gonna speak for the people.
[19:16.460 --> 19:21.480]  I'm gonna get up there, and I'm gonna run for office, I'm gonna get an office, I'm gonna make things right for everybody.
[19:21.620 --> 19:26.780]  So then, you know, you get into office, then some guy comes up to you and he's like, alright, alright.
[19:27.580 --> 19:30.380]  Give you a million dollars if you sneak, sneak this into a bill or something.
[19:30.480 --> 19:33.120]  You're like, alright, no, no, you know.
[19:33.260 --> 19:37.720]  Then you go home and, like, you know, actually that million dollars sounds pretty good.
[19:37.820 --> 19:44.580]  And ultimately, even people that mean well may succumb to corruption or other facets of, you know, bad things.
[19:44.580 --> 19:59.280]  So, you know, I mean, and then you have the people who have ulterior motives that go into it in the first place, you know, into professional leadership, because we're at a point in our society where leaders are professional leaders.
[19:59.460 --> 20:00.560]  I mean, that's what they do for a living.
[20:00.800 --> 20:07.060]  You know, that's, you know, they don't go home and, you know, go to the office and, you know, hang out.
[20:07.140 --> 20:09.340]  Their friends are all politicians, too.
[20:09.420 --> 20:10.720]  They're leaders of the country.
[20:10.720 --> 20:16.480]  So, ultimately, you know, they become out of touch with the people they represent.
[20:16.660 --> 20:19.340]  Not in all cases, but in a lot of cases.
[20:20.680 --> 20:36.320]  So, if you actually take a look, I mean, so they have to think about how to keep their society under control, how to keep them all in one, you know, nice uniform unit where people aren't going to stand up and be like, hey, taxes, or hey, this, or hey,
[20:36.400 --> 20:36.620]  that.
[20:37.240 --> 20:39.760]  So, they have to, and they know they can't go beat you up.
[20:40.720 --> 20:51.180]  So, they have to think of some different type of control, some different way to actually keep people listening to them, and paying taxes, and, you know, keeping them in power and all this other good stuff.
[20:55.420 --> 20:59.040]  So, step in, sorry, got some ice.
[21:01.480 --> 21:01.980]  Ahem.
[21:05.060 --> 21:05.880]  Mind control.
[21:06.400 --> 21:07.460]  Information control.
[21:08.420 --> 21:16.060]  If you take a look at mind control, a good example of mind control, I don't know if we have any Scientologists here.
[21:16.420 --> 21:31.520]  But, Scientology, if you actually take a look at how it works, they use mind control, mind control tactics to convince people to, you know, sign up to their religion or their beliefs or whatever.
[21:31.960 --> 21:37.720]  And not, you know, Scientology is just, I mean, there's all kinds of different little sex and cults and stuff that use these tactics.
[21:37.720 --> 21:42.340]  If you break them down and look at them, they're actually extremely simple.
[21:42.960 --> 21:55.560]  I mean, you could just find someone who's maybe not that happy, bring them into a room, show them a bunch of movies, have everyone there be like, Oh, yeah, friend, you know, everything's great and happy here in this land, in our land.
[21:55.800 --> 21:56.520]  Everything's great.
[21:56.680 --> 21:59.640]  And they only feed you the information they want you to know.
[21:59.820 --> 22:05.580]  And ultimately, you base your decisions on the information that's given you.
[22:06.940 --> 22:09.480]  A good example is, you know,
[22:12.620 --> 22:14.780]  making decisions.
[22:15.220 --> 22:20.540]  You know, if, for example, you want to, you don't know what kind of computer to buy, right?
[22:20.700 --> 22:23.660]  And you go and you read these reviews on these two machines.
[22:23.660 --> 22:27.440]  And one has all glowing reviews and tells you all the great stuff about it and everything.
[22:27.540 --> 22:30.060]  And the other one tells you all bad stuff, all the negative stuff.
[22:30.340 --> 22:32.400]  Well, everything has a good and bad side.
[22:32.580 --> 22:40.300]  But if you only hear the good side of one thing, and you only hear the bad side of the other thing, of course, you're going to tend to favor the side that sounds good.
[22:40.580 --> 22:53.540]  So by controlling that type of information, by controlling all the, you know, stuff that you actually listen to and hear, you're going to base your decisions on what you perceive as fair judgment.
[22:54.480 --> 22:58.200]  But, it's really maybe not the entire story.
[22:59.320 --> 23:10.640]  So, if you take a look at something like that, in cults where they take you out to a nice retreat, and everyone is friendly and happy, and everything goes down this certain road.
[23:10.940 --> 23:17.880]  If we take a look at the American society, you grow up, and you see the news.
[23:18.100 --> 23:21.980]  And the news, for a half hour, they tell you everything that goes on in the world.
[23:22.900 --> 23:26.740]  A lot of people in the world, you really can't hear it all in half an hour.
[23:27.020 --> 23:29.540]  So, what kind of information are we getting out of that?
[23:29.760 --> 23:34.260]  We are getting the information that they want to tell you, for whatever reason.
[23:34.520 --> 23:39.780]  Be it marketing, commercial dollars, or maybe some other agenda, or whatever.
[23:40.620 --> 23:52.500]  But, by only hearing these parts of the story, or parts of the news, and reading newspapers, and only getting a part of the story, ultimately, the people, the citizens of the country, are led down a single path.
[23:52.720 --> 23:53.240]  You know?
[23:53.380 --> 23:56.080]  A single way of thinking.
[23:56.440 --> 24:07.740]  And all your decisions that you ultimately base, not just on world views, but ultimately these types of opinions, are going to permeate their way into your everyday decisions.
[24:10.280 --> 24:30.980]  For example, if you're constantly, you know, if your body adapts, or if your mind starts to adapt, you know, just as a body would adapt to some kind of physical stress or something like that, your mind ultimately is going to start to adapt to the directions that they're pointing you towards.
[24:31.660 --> 24:39.540]  And those decisions that you're going to make are going to affect, you know, your everyday life, family life, all this stuff.
[24:39.540 --> 24:44.420]  Because your mind is going to begin to adapt, you know, to that information that they give you.
[24:46.540 --> 24:57.420]  And just as in the Roman Empire, as the Romans were the Roman people, they didn't really have, you know, to worry about fighting, they didn't have to worry about fighting food or anything like that.
[24:58.680 --> 25:02.380]  You know, ultimately, their bodies became weak.
[25:02.520 --> 25:04.700]  And weak over generation after generation.
[25:05.020 --> 25:11.320]  And, you know, the physical principle of survival of the fittest is, you know, pretty much went away.
[25:12.400 --> 25:19.960]  And, you know, okay, whatever, that's not necessarily a bad thing, you know, as long as everyone's happy and everything's cool, that's cool.
[25:20.220 --> 25:29.540]  But because they imposed a physical control over people, when their people became weak, the physically strong were able to knock them down and completely take them out.
[25:30.200 --> 25:40.420]  So if you take a look at the control imposed today over people, you know, mind control, it's almost a subconscious... it is a subconscious control.
[25:40.680 --> 25:44.680]  You know, by... and if you take a step back and look at it, I mean, it's almost obvious.
[25:44.740 --> 25:46.100]  It's so easy to get away from.
[25:46.100 --> 26:03.620]  I mean, if you just take a look at the information, if you can just see all the information instead of just a little part of it, then you can make, you know, the decisions that are... would be more inclined to you to be fair than the decisions that the people giving you the information think are fair.
[26:05.260 --> 26:15.880]  And I mean, in that case, I would... it would be probably, you know, more apt to a more fair and balanced type of society that way.
[26:16.260 --> 26:19.540]  However, I mean, the people in power maybe don't want to take that risk.
[26:20.800 --> 26:22.440]  You know, there is a freedom of information.
[26:22.620 --> 26:24.220]  You can find this stuff.
[26:24.540 --> 26:28.820]  A good example is if you take the latest Michael Moore film, Fahrenheit 9-11.
[26:28.820 --> 26:33.040]  I saw that movie and I said, well, I already knew all this stuff.
[26:33.780 --> 26:38.500]  Because I, you know, I stay up on all the world news and I listen to alternative sources of news.
[26:38.680 --> 26:42.360]  But I know so many people that saw that movie, they came out and they were like, oh, what?
[26:42.500 --> 26:43.320]  I can't believe this.
[26:43.380 --> 26:44.180]  How did this happen?
[26:44.540 --> 26:46.840]  You know, and I'm like, huh, interesting.
[26:47.180 --> 26:47.940]  Well, that's cool.
[26:47.980 --> 26:49.780]  I'm going to be talking about the same thing in my presentation next week.
[26:52.220 --> 26:58.660]  But, you know, it's that exact control of information that the people in power, they give you the story they want you to know.
[26:59.380 --> 27:01.440]  And you don't end up getting the entire story.
[27:01.560 --> 27:07.780]  And just as the Romans evolved physically weak in a society where they didn't have to physically fight.
[27:08.200 --> 27:11.480]  You know, today we're living in a society where almost you don't have to think.
[27:11.880 --> 27:14.120]  You know, you come out of school, yeah, okay, here's the standard.
[27:14.240 --> 27:16.300]  You go to high school, you come out of high school, you go to college.
[27:16.520 --> 27:17.740]  You go to college, you get a job.
[27:17.920 --> 27:23.840]  You get a job and you get to make family and sit at home and watch TV all day and, you know, listen to what they tell you on the television.
[27:23.840 --> 27:28.660]  I know lots of people that tend to follow that track.
[27:28.980 --> 27:29.960]  All kinds of people.
[27:30.080 --> 27:34.900]  I look back at the people I went to high school with, and I take a look at them, and I'm like, what?
[27:35.440 --> 27:39.340]  How could they... And a lot of them consider themselves to be extremely successful.
[27:39.560 --> 27:41.880]  They get good jobs, make lots of money.
[27:42.120 --> 27:42.860]  Okay, cool.
[27:43.060 --> 27:44.940]  Money, everyone's happy with money.
[27:45.340 --> 27:49.640]  And they are totally happy than just sitting at home watching the boob tube all night.
[27:50.420 --> 27:54.460]  And they feel like, you know, they're free in that respect.
[27:56.160 --> 27:56.900]  Which, okay.
[27:57.120 --> 27:58.580]  I mean, if they're happy, cool.
[27:58.820 --> 28:05.940]  But at the same time, I mean, if you take a look at, you know, in the Roman Empire, you know, genius.
[28:06.480 --> 28:15.620]  If you look at genius, when a group of people get comfortable, and you don't, you know, it kind of almost dulls the mind.
[28:15.760 --> 28:16.800]  It dulls the spirit.
[28:17.100 --> 28:17.880]  It dulls the body.
[28:18.380 --> 28:25.600]  You don't have to actually come up with any kind of, you know, new revolutionary ideas.
[28:25.740 --> 28:27.900]  You don't have to worry about, how am I going to feed everybody?
[28:27.920 --> 28:29.100]  I'll come up with a great idea.
[28:29.200 --> 28:31.800]  I'm going to build this giant machine that makes corn and shuns it down.
[28:31.920 --> 28:34.020]  You know, you don't have to think about that stuff anymore.
[28:36.780 --> 29:01.120]  And, you know, in that respect, people ultimately, if this type of mind control in society continues, ultimately, I mean, just as the Romans physically degraded, American society is going to mentally degrade in the same exact way.
[29:02.040 --> 29:17.560]  Therefore, because of the, you know, implements of control, the instruments of control that are used, then you have, basically, a repeat of history, in a theoretical sense.
[29:17.560 --> 29:19.180]  Yeah, it's not the exact same thing.
[29:19.380 --> 29:20.920]  But in principle, it is.
[29:23.460 --> 29:30.700]  But then if you take, you take a look at, you know, people who, who, who do look at all the information.
[29:31.920 --> 29:42.500]  You know, people who can get into these information sources, who can manipulate it, who can actually mess with the system and, you know, kind of shake them up a little bit so they're not totally hands-on with everything.
[29:43.160 --> 29:48.720]  You know, these are the, these are the people that, just as the barbarians were scary to the Romans.
[29:48.880 --> 29:52.260]  I mean, these are the people that are scary to, you know, the Americans today.
[29:53.380 --> 29:59.740]  Okay, I'm an American, but, you know, I mean, these are the, the, the people on the outskirts.
[29:59.760 --> 30:06.500]  The people who, you know, the, the people in power don't want them so much, you know, involved in all this stuff.
[30:07.300 --> 30:14.780]  Just as actually when, you know, the Roman people became so weak that they no longer fought in their armies, where the armies even became weak.
[30:15.000 --> 30:18.960]  Where they would march all day and they'd be like, ah, this armor's too heavy.
[30:18.960 --> 30:20.540]  Do we have to wear it?
[30:20.820 --> 30:22.980]  And they were like, yeah, you're right, it is heavy.
[30:23.240 --> 30:23.740]  Take it off.
[30:24.040 --> 30:25.580]  Oh, man, these swords are heavy.
[30:26.100 --> 30:27.100]  We don't want them.
[30:27.300 --> 30:28.660]  So they had daggers instead.
[30:28.920 --> 30:32.200]  And so eventually the army degraded because they didn't have to fight.
[30:32.460 --> 30:35.680]  You know, so they became, just like the people, they became weak.
[30:35.680 --> 30:37.240]  So what did the Romans do?
[30:37.460 --> 30:40.840]  They hired the barbarians in their armies because the barbarians were still really strong.
[30:41.180 --> 30:43.180]  You know, mercenary armies and all this other stuff.
[30:44.180 --> 30:44.620]  Okay.
[30:45.280 --> 30:52.340]  Well, you know, if you're going to hire the people that don't like you and your army, you know, ultimately that wasn't so good for them either.
[30:53.180 --> 31:01.140]  But, I mean, ultimately, if you look at the phone companies, the phone companies, when, you know, all the phreakers came in and started messing with the phones, who did they hire?
[31:01.660 --> 31:02.420]  The phreakers.
[31:02.700 --> 31:04.960]  They hired them to make their security stronger.
[31:05.320 --> 31:13.040]  And today, when you look at security, a lot of security people, who do they hire when their networks are, you know, in danger or whatever?
[31:13.040 --> 31:14.680]  They look to hire hackers.
[31:15.780 --> 31:17.640]  It's almost the same exact principle.
[31:17.920 --> 31:19.980]  Like, it's almost like a mercenary army of people.
[31:20.260 --> 31:21.700]  They know the ins and outs of the system.
[31:21.780 --> 31:24.280]  They know how to bring it down, so who better to defend it, right?
[31:24.820 --> 31:31.720]  But it was ultimately the, you know, the barbarians that, you know, ended up staying back.
[31:32.180 --> 31:33.720]  You know, they weren't fully accepted.
[31:33.880 --> 31:35.820]  They didn't go in and help the Romans out.
[31:35.900 --> 31:39.360]  They ended up going off and doing what they did.
[31:41.640 --> 31:51.360]  And so, if you take a look, I mean, at the advantages, I mean, obviously, I mean, I've already covered, I think, all the advantages of barbarians and hackers.
[31:51.360 --> 32:03.480]  As long as there is an organized society, as long as there is, you know, an organized group of people working together, ultimately, they'll have to.
[32:03.640 --> 32:19.600]  I mean, they have to impose, you know, as the thirst for power grows, as the thirst for power grows, the people in power have to learn how to control masses of people.
[32:19.600 --> 32:20.880]  Because, you know, people are different.
[32:21.140 --> 32:21.700]  Everyone's different.
[32:21.940 --> 32:23.860]  I don't think I'm exactly like anyone in this room.
[32:24.400 --> 32:26.080]  At least, I'm pretty sure I'm not.
[32:26.280 --> 32:27.820]  I don't see anyone that looks exactly the same.
[32:28.120 --> 32:30.420]  You know, do you know anyone that's exactly like someone else?
[32:30.500 --> 32:31.520]  I have brothers that are twins.
[32:31.580 --> 32:32.560]  And they're totally different.
[32:32.720 --> 32:33.480]  They're identical twins.
[32:33.680 --> 32:35.440]  And they say identical twins are genetically...
[32:35.440 --> 32:39.180]  And, you know, you know, and then you take groups of people.
[32:39.380 --> 32:41.100]  You know, groups of people are going to be different.
[32:41.100 --> 32:45.720]  You know, if I take all the people that live in New York City, oh, okay, New York City is a bad example.
[32:45.800 --> 32:46.580]  It's a very metropolitan town.
[32:46.680 --> 32:51.040]  Okay, if I go out to Long Island, okay, I'm from Shoreham in Long Island.
[32:51.180 --> 32:52.900]  A little town, we got a nuclear power plant.
[32:53.020 --> 32:53.180]  Woo!
[32:53.720 --> 33:08.940]  And if I take all the people in that town, and, you know, I take that community of people, and then I go to, like, Florida somewhere, some little town in Florida, these people are going to be completely different.
[33:08.940 --> 33:17.220]  In fact, you probably won't even be able to draw many similarities between any one person in each place, unless they came from there or a similar region.
[33:17.620 --> 33:31.840]  And, you know, because of that, I mean, which, if you think of, you know, localized government control, people tend to be more happy in small groups, where small groups can help, you know, shape their little environment.
[33:31.840 --> 33:42.060]  And when you take something as massive as a country that's humongous, with millions of people in it, it's impossible to please everybody, right?
[33:42.580 --> 33:51.800]  And, however, being the people in power, you have to keep them all under wraps, every single one of them, no matter how different they all are.
[33:51.800 --> 34:03.120]  And because of that, then, subversive forms of control are almost completely necessary to keep all, you know, everybody under one major umbrella.
[34:03.120 --> 34:09.200]  And it's always going to be in those large types of power-hungry societies.
[34:09.900 --> 34:33.300]  The people on the outskirts, the people who can resist and identify those forms of control, the people who can actually, you know, stand on the outside, look in, and at least understand everything that's going on, you know, and that are ultimately going to be the true,
[34:33.560 --> 34:38.780]  you know, I think the really true free people, no matter, you know, what you term freedom.
[34:38.920 --> 34:46.180]  Yeah, I can go out and say anything I want, but, you know, if I'm just going home watching TV every night, what does it matter what I say, if no one hears it, right?
[34:46.180 --> 35:08.060]  So, it's always going to be those people on the fringes that are going to make the differences, that are going to be, you know, the geniuses that change things, that come up with new ideas, and, you know, ultimately, you know, at least show people the weaknesses of the system to avoid any,
[35:08.280 --> 35:15.820]  you know, to avoid the, you know, negative aspects of a controlling power-hungry society.
[35:15.820 --> 35:17.500]  To get completely out of control.
[35:19.780 --> 35:20.520]  And that's it.
[35:20.920 --> 35:23.300]  That's all I really have to say in my presentation.
[35:24.420 --> 35:25.600]  Does anyone have any questions?
[35:29.780 --> 35:31.000]  All right, no questions.
[35:31.640 --> 35:32.180]  Oh yeah, question.
[36:16.040 --> 36:19.880]  Right, okay, this is purely speculative, but it's a good question.
[36:20.140 --> 36:34.120]  Because let's say, for example, history does repeat itself, and a group of people, you know, whatever happens, and, you know, the misinformation of the powers that be become so apparent, where the masses say, ah, forget this, man, we've had it.
[36:34.460 --> 36:34.720]  Whoop!
[36:34.780 --> 36:37.160]  They overthrow the government, everything starts to fall to heck.
[36:38.200 --> 36:45.540]  You know, in the time of the Roman Empire, they didn't have any of the technology or the infrastructures or anything that we had now.
[36:45.620 --> 36:47.660]  Yeah, okay, they built all kinds of roads and good stuff.
[36:48.580 --> 36:52.900]  But, I mean, today, if you have, you know, let's just take, for example, the United States.
[36:52.900 --> 36:54.020]  Okay, we've got fifty states.
[36:54.240 --> 36:59.620]  If all the people managed, if people manage to band together and completely abolish the American federal government.
[36:59.740 --> 37:09.580]  Well, we still have all kinds of local government institutions, and, I mean, America was founded on the principle of localized, you know, localized government.
[37:09.780 --> 37:14.220]  It's like, okay, you've got the community, you know, we've got our own, you know, leaders and stuff.
[37:14.220 --> 37:17.160]  And then you've got the county, and then the state.
[37:17.460 --> 37:18.940]  And after the state, the federal government.
[37:19.400 --> 37:23.880]  And I mean, really, that was one of the main points of the Civil War, right?
[37:24.000 --> 37:26.400]  The Civil War was a horrible, horrible thing.
[37:27.420 --> 37:31.860]  Probably no one was happy, except for after when it was done, good stuff happened.
[37:32.340 --> 37:35.740]  But one of the main things was states' rights.
[37:35.880 --> 37:40.140]  The states said, Yo, hey, we're supposed to be able to do whatever we want, federal government.
[37:40.260 --> 37:42.060]  And the federal government said, No, no, no, you do what we say.
[37:42.060 --> 37:43.180]  Okay, yeah, okay.
[37:43.300 --> 37:50.580]  So on a lot of the issues, the federal government was right, and some of the states had some serious, you know, moral, bad things going on.
[37:51.040 --> 38:04.760]  But, you know, ultimately, the whole principle of the country was to have, okay, have, you know, little or smaller states with a large body kind of overseeing everything and taking care of the foreign policy, and the states would take care of it.
[38:04.860 --> 38:11.380]  So, in my opinion, I think that if the federal government did get overthrown, you know, sure, there would probably be chaos for a little while.
[38:12.060 --> 38:15.080]  You know, we might be thrown into a state of anarchy for all this.
[38:15.380 --> 38:17.200]  I don't know, but exactly what would happen.
[38:17.460 --> 38:31.700]  But, you know, I think that we have enough local types of institutions in place where people would be able to pick up the pieces relatively quickly without being plunged into the dark ages, such as happened in the Middle East.
[38:31.740 --> 38:31.820]  Yeah.
[39:37.680 --> 39:41.520]  Well, that's definitely, that's difficult, I mean, that's difficult to predict.
[39:42.360 --> 39:56.640]  It seems as if, if you look at, I mean, the human race in general, war seems, war and fighting, it seems to almost be naturally inherent in human nature, which I mean, I don't like.
[39:56.640 --> 39:57.900]  I don't agree with it.
[39:59.120 --> 40:01.720]  And I don't, it's hard to say where it comes from.
[40:01.960 --> 40:07.840]  I mean, you know, people disagree and, and they fight and they, you know, they battle each other.
[40:08.020 --> 40:20.720]  But, I guess I like to think, idealistically, that if something like that did happen, that people, you know, maybe, after seeing this, would, would learn the lessons of war.
[40:20.720 --> 40:29.580]  I mean, if you could see the negative aspects of war, like with the, with the Iraq war, the Afghanistan, you know, we don't, we don't even see a lot of the stuff that goes on over there.
[40:29.720 --> 40:42.560]  And then a lot of times when you do see the people going in and shooting other people, you know, I mean, I remember, I read All Quiet on the Western Front, you know, which was one of the biggest anti-war novels.
[40:42.560 --> 40:53.680]  And the part that sticks out in my brain the most is when, you know, the guy's walking through the trenches, you know, and he's crawling through the trenches, and he hits the body of a dead German guy, right?
[40:53.840 --> 40:55.260]  In, I think it was World War I.
[40:55.980 --> 40:58.340]  And the guy rolls over and his wallet falls out.
[40:58.460 --> 41:01.180]  And there's a picture of his family, you know, his wife and kids.
[41:01.800 --> 41:07.820]  And, of course, now the character in the book is like, uh, do, uh, uh, what?
[41:07.940 --> 41:08.840]  How do I not think of that?
[41:09.200 --> 41:22.100]  You know, I mean, if you think of a state of war, I mean, if, if one side of the room declares war on the other side of the room and you start killing each other, you know, now all the people that are related to you and all the people that you love or that you love that,
[41:22.400 --> 41:27.100]  you know, as you die and are gone now, now they're going to be really sad.
[41:27.100 --> 41:29.840]  And it's gonna really suck for them, if they really liked you.
[41:30.520 --> 41:46.900]  But, you know, I guess I like to think from an idealistic point of view, you know, if something like that did happen, that people would be able to band together in such a way that they wouldn't have to resort to, you know, warfare and a constant state of war.
[41:48.320 --> 41:49.880]  But, you know, that's just...yes?
[43:56.450 --> 44:02.030]  That's actually...yeah, that's an interesting point, especially since America is, I guess, well, the largest power.
[44:02.030 --> 44:04.330]  Certainly the largest military power in the world today.
[44:04.890 --> 44:09.210]  I mean, a lot...well, you know, if you take a look at the Iraq thing, we didn't want Iraq.
[44:09.430 --> 44:12.430]  We didn't want Saddam Hussein power, so we tried to convince everyone.
[44:12.570 --> 44:13.330]  Well, we couldn't convince people.
[44:13.390 --> 44:14.030]  We just did it ourselves.
[44:14.310 --> 44:17.290]  And now people are following suit, because they want a slice of the pie.
[44:17.550 --> 44:18.590]  They want the oil money.
[44:18.890 --> 44:23.750]  You know, the Koreans and everyone else who fought there who had big stakes in the country are now, yeah, okay.
[44:24.190 --> 44:37.650]  We want to be there now, because, you know, but...yeah, so I mean, if you think about it, if the United States did fall, I mean, how many countries of the world could retain control over their people if such a large power were to fall?
[44:37.890 --> 44:38.670]  It's interesting.
[44:39.070 --> 44:43.810]  They would have to make sure that the people in their societies were extremely happy with where they were, I would think.
[44:52.140 --> 44:52.540]  Yeah.
[44:53.720 --> 44:54.240]  Uh-huh.
[44:56.120 --> 44:58.140]  No, you're absolutely...it's extremely arrogant.
[44:58.320 --> 44:58.900]  I apologize.
[44:59.160 --> 44:59.900]  I apologize.
[45:00.060 --> 45:00.300]  You're right.
[45:00.380 --> 45:02.180]  That was a pretty arrogant statement, but...
[45:02.180 --> 45:03.860]  But, uh...
[45:03.860 --> 45:07.920]  But, yeah, it's...but I guess if you think about...okay, you're right.
[45:08.060 --> 45:08.360]  I mean...
[45:09.820 --> 45:11.000]  No, you're...that's a good point.
[45:11.120 --> 45:11.560]  Yes, yes.
[45:11.560 --> 45:12.200]  No,
[45:16.550 --> 45:17.710]  you're mine.
[45:28.490 --> 45:30.090]  Yes, yes.
[45:30.090 --> 45:32.990]  No, you're mine.
[45:32.990 --> 45:35.710]  And this is the second one.
[46:37.530 --> 46:40.330]  Thank you.
[47:29.850 --> 47:30.490]  Possible, mm-hmm.
[47:30.950 --> 47:32.610]  Uh, well, here, you had your hand up first in the front here.
[47:33.790 --> 47:34.030]  Yeah.
[47:34.030 --> 47:36.090]  Thank you.
[47:52.340 --> 47:53.280]  Thank you.
[47:54.340 --> 47:56.300]  Thank you.
[47:56.300 --> 47:58.720]  So, that's what I want is the second one.
[48:04.060 --> 48:07.530]  I don't know.
[48:12.150 --> 48:16.610]  I can't tell a person or caught a voice right here.
[48:16.990 --> 48:18.170]  I am a object.
[48:18.510 --> 48:21.090]  So, that's what I want to know.
[48:21.370 --> 48:26.590]  I want to hear a breath.
[48:26.590 --> 48:27.450]  So...
[48:27.450 --> 48:28.590]  Cool, that...
[48:29.610 --> 48:31.730]  But the application of the first sentence may be wrong.
[48:34.090 --> 48:40.790]  Which is the second sentence in the second sentence, a would say,
[49:24.900 --> 49:26.380]  I love this discussion.
[49:26.520 --> 49:27.800]  This is incredible and great.
[49:27.920 --> 49:28.720]  We're running a lot of time.
[49:29.340 --> 49:30.500]  But here, let me tell you, you had your hand.
[49:30.640 --> 49:31.020]  It's over one more.
[49:44.840 --> 49:45.120]  Right?
[49:45.360 --> 49:45.740]  I agree.
[49:46.200 --> 49:46.880]  Okay, we got one more.
[50:50.420 --> 51:04.100]  And this is the second one.
[51:16.760 --> 51:20.180]  All right, my apologies to the speaker, but we have run out of time.
[51:20.800 --> 51:25.400]  There is an opportunity for the open mic tomorrow at 10 a.m. sponsored by Cheshire Catalyst and brought to you as a special service by HOPE 5.
[51:30.480 --> 51:31.680]  I hope you'll all attend.
[51:31.900 --> 51:36.240]  It will be in this room, 10 o'clock tomorrow, but for now we got to get the next speaker up.
[51:36.440 --> 51:37.620]  Yeah, so thank you everybody.
[51:37.820 --> 51:38.340]  Thanks for coming.
[51:38.680 --> 51:39.620]  Hope you enjoyed it.
[51:40.100 --> 51:41.360]  Have fun the rest of the conference.