[00:00.880 --> 00:03.880]  It was the dawn of time, a race of druids.
[00:04.400 --> 00:06.920]  No one knew who they were or what they would do.
[00:10.260 --> 00:12.360]  Okay, I think we can officially kick this off now.
[00:13.900 --> 00:19.240]  I'd like to welcome pretty much all of you to the Phone Losers of America 10th Anniversary Spectacular.
[00:25.460 --> 00:32.980]  Now, before we go any further, I'd like to ask for a big round of applause for Emmanuel and the 2600 for putting this whole mess of a thing together.
[00:35.180 --> 00:36.140]  We're really into it.
[00:37.580 --> 00:41.200]  It gives us a chance to do things like express ourselves in various ways.
[00:42.300 --> 00:56.760]  We were looking at some of the design work, like those of you who saw the Off the Hook broadcast before, they were talking about the designer by a great friend of mine, her name is Jen, and she designed some wonderful iconography, including these fist logos that,
[00:56.780 --> 00:58.720]  you know, I think perfectly represent HOPE 5.
[00:58.880 --> 01:00.440]  They have the five fingers, the five...
[01:00.440 --> 01:05.320]  So we thought we'd integrate it just for the purposes of this panel with some other iconography.
[01:05.480 --> 01:06.280]  So if you would do the honors.
[01:17.350 --> 01:18.470]  Thank you so much.
[01:19.350 --> 01:26.230]  Okay, so this is a perfect integration of, I think, what we hope to do and what we hope to accomplish today.
[01:30.130 --> 01:31.750]  Do we have to be drunk first?
[01:32.590 --> 01:33.790]  Let's start off with some introductions.
[01:34.290 --> 01:35.170]  My name is Rob T. Firefly, formerly known as Rufus T. Firefly.
[01:38.410 --> 01:41.250]  I've been a hanger-on around PLA stuff for ages.
[01:41.530 --> 01:51.350]  I was a staff member on the United Phone Losers spin-off zine on the now deceased phonelosers.net, which if you visit now you can see a wonderful domain harvesters, you know, services that they have to offer you.
[01:51.350 --> 01:51.970]  Thank you.
[01:54.170 --> 01:56.610]  To my... starting on the wrong side here.
[01:57.090 --> 01:57.550]  Yes.
[01:57.810 --> 01:59.530]  This would be I-baLL on the end.
[01:59.870 --> 02:01.310]  Yeah, you're right, his left.
[02:02.350 --> 02:03.750]  Leo aka I-baLL.
[02:04.010 --> 02:06.970]  You might know me from H2K2 on the Conspiracy Panel.
[02:07.250 --> 02:11.270]  And I'm off the hook every once in a while when I bother to show up.
[02:12.310 --> 02:13.030]  So, yeah.
[02:13.210 --> 02:16.750]  And all of you from the New York City meets know me because I live there.
[02:17.330 --> 02:19.730]  So, nice to be here.
[02:19.730 --> 02:20.070]  Yeah.
[02:20.790 --> 02:21.330]  Rock it.
[02:21.810 --> 02:22.350]  Thank you.
[02:22.410 --> 02:23.490]  A little bit of applause.
[02:26.590 --> 02:31.110]  And the next guy is a close personal friend of myself and of all of you.
[02:31.950 --> 02:33.150]  This would be Murd0c.
[02:33.290 --> 02:33.630]  Hello.
[02:33.890 --> 02:34.530]  I'm Murd0c.
[02:34.690 --> 02:35.450]  Hi Murd0c.
[02:35.550 --> 02:35.850]  Hello.
[02:36.370 --> 02:37.830]  Am I supposed to talk into this?
[02:39.390 --> 02:39.950]  Thank you.
[02:40.070 --> 02:40.250]  That's how it works.
[02:40.250 --> 02:49.050]  I've been around with the PLA since 1998, participating on various web forums and prank calls, conference lines and what have you.
[02:49.270 --> 02:53.570]  I've been around since 1998 and now I don't really do anything.
[02:53.670 --> 02:54.410]  I'm a worthless layabout.
[02:55.190 --> 02:55.610]  Yeah.
[02:56.270 --> 02:56.690]  Yeah.
[03:01.200 --> 03:01.540]  Yeah.
[03:01.540 --> 03:01.880]  Okay.
[03:02.100 --> 03:06.700]  And here is another good friend, good to his mother, good to authority figures and...
[03:06.700 --> 03:07.360]  Oh, you know that.
[03:07.520 --> 03:07.780]  Yes.
[03:08.360 --> 03:08.920]  You are.
[03:09.580 --> 03:10.680]  He is known as Big E.
[03:10.680 --> 03:11.540]  Hello.
[03:12.580 --> 03:16.240]  You can catch me on Haxer Radio, the PLA forums.
[03:16.400 --> 03:22.280]  I was with the PLA first a few years ago with Roy, the Talonhead thing, and now just with Cal.
[03:22.820 --> 03:23.100]  Pretty much.
[03:23.200 --> 03:23.640]  That's it.
[03:29.220 --> 03:36.360]  And on the far side of things is another wonderful, superior human being to us all and an inspiration to be around.
[03:37.260 --> 03:38.920]  You may recognize his name.
[03:39.020 --> 03:39.940]  He is kind of well-known.
[03:40.020 --> 03:41.000]  This is Judas Iscariot.
[03:41.920 --> 03:43.060]  How are you doing, everybody?
[03:44.940 --> 03:52.260]  My first encounter with the PLA was, I don't even know how long ago, just reading up on text files, learning how to read box.
[03:52.500 --> 03:55.140]  And just recently I became a moderator for the PLA forums.
[03:57.460 --> 03:58.460]  You killed my hero.
[04:02.260 --> 04:02.700]  Okay.
[04:03.020 --> 04:06.240]  Well, we'd like to start off on a basic note, a very basic note.
[04:07.240 --> 04:12.060]  And it's one of the most tried and true and respected tricks of the whole subculture.
[04:13.400 --> 04:14.120]  Are you going to use that?
[04:14.520 --> 04:15.060]  Use what?
[04:15.740 --> 04:16.400]  The DVD, yes.
[04:16.560 --> 04:18.000]  Yes, I'm letting it control it.
[04:18.160 --> 04:19.400]  It's Windows XP, dude.
[04:19.500 --> 04:20.600]  Don't cut me some slack.
[04:20.900 --> 04:21.660]  It's the big button.
[04:21.920 --> 04:22.660]  The big button?
[04:22.780 --> 04:22.940]  Yes.
[04:23.120 --> 04:23.440]  Start?
[04:24.840 --> 04:26.020]  It doesn't say start.
[04:26.220 --> 04:26.640]  I don't know.
[04:30.620 --> 04:31.160]  Yeah, I know.
[04:31.260 --> 04:32.140]  I'm going to have to turn it on in a second.
[04:32.140 --> 04:33.220]  This man taught me everything I know.
[04:33.220 --> 04:33.580]  Yeah.
[04:33.880 --> 04:34.360]  I'm all.
[04:34.620 --> 04:35.600]  That sounds like a hawk.
[04:35.740 --> 04:36.700]  And everything he knows.
[04:37.920 --> 04:39.020]  Between us, that's a lot of things.
[04:39.200 --> 04:39.520]  Lots.
[04:41.080 --> 04:42.020]  Yeah, too, is a lot.
[04:44.180 --> 04:47.120]  So, I'll start by saying a couple of words about Phone Losers of America.
[04:50.460 --> 04:51.680]  I'll start off by killing my friend.
[04:51.820 --> 04:54.420]  Then I'll say a couple of words about Phone Losers of America.
[04:54.420 --> 04:56.520]  They merged onto the scene roughly ten years ago.
[04:57.400 --> 05:03.320]  With the posting of some text files on underground BBSs and even the fledgling internet of the time.
[05:04.140 --> 05:06.360]  They were commonly known as...
[05:06.860 --> 05:07.660]  Are they a joke?
[05:07.780 --> 05:08.380]  Are they not a joke?
[05:09.160 --> 05:09.800]  Let's watch.
[05:10.520 --> 05:11.220]  Oh, hold on, hold on.
[05:12.280 --> 05:12.360]  Yeah.
[05:15.640 --> 05:17.940]  The thing set to the projection on there?
[05:18.060 --> 05:18.800]  We're about to see.
[05:19.340 --> 05:20.140]  At some point.
[05:20.320 --> 05:21.760]  It's a video presentation.
[05:22.060 --> 05:23.540]  It's a little dramatization, if you will.
[05:23.540 --> 05:27.180]  With some very classically trained actors.
[05:27.520 --> 05:30.480]  Who are also close friends of all of us here.
[05:31.260 --> 05:33.220]  And I really have to thank them for their support.
[05:33.500 --> 05:34.740]  And their donation of their time.
[05:34.940 --> 05:37.460]  And their skills to this cause.
[05:40.760 --> 05:41.640]  Oh, shit.
[05:42.420 --> 05:43.740]  Okay, you can start this now.
[05:44.020 --> 05:45.600]  I'm turning the set on.
[05:46.320 --> 05:46.820]  I'm trying.
[05:47.640 --> 05:48.900]  Oh, there it is.
[05:48.900 --> 05:49.300]  I told you.
[05:49.840 --> 05:50.000]  Yeah.
[05:50.380 --> 05:51.720]  Now I don't have a screen.
[05:51.720 --> 05:54.880]  This is what you would see if you bought one of our, uh...
[05:54.880 --> 05:55.380]  One of our productions.
[05:58.120 --> 05:58.440]  Oh!
[05:58.660 --> 05:59.100]  I can't.
[05:59.160 --> 05:59.900]  I can't see them.
[06:02.780 --> 06:03.340]  I'll do it.
[06:03.480 --> 06:03.920]  Do it.
[06:03.920 --> 06:21.680]  Do it.
[06:21.680 --> 06:22.740]  If we can, uh, boost that up.
[06:22.900 --> 06:23.700]  And this Friday.
[06:23.920 --> 06:25.040]  At the party at Silverdome.
[06:25.180 --> 06:25.880]  I'm gonna prove it.
[06:26.140 --> 06:26.680]  Jim Adler.
[06:26.820 --> 06:27.760]  I'm calling you out.
[06:28.080 --> 06:29.100]  You come to me, baby.
[06:29.360 --> 06:30.760]  I'll show you who's the toughest.
[06:31.040 --> 06:32.640]  I'll show you who's the smartest.
[06:33.060 --> 06:34.040]  Bring it on down.
[06:34.840 --> 06:35.240]  Friday!
[06:37.960 --> 06:39.460]  That's a word from our sponsor.
[06:39.660 --> 06:41.340]  That's our faithful web host, Evil Cow.
[06:48.080 --> 06:48.880]  Oh, shoot.
[06:49.480 --> 06:50.380]  Let me do it.
[06:50.460 --> 06:50.620]  There.
[06:50.720 --> 06:50.880]  There.
[06:50.920 --> 06:51.240]  It's on.
[06:52.240 --> 06:53.140]  Everybody shut up.
[06:53.300 --> 06:53.660]  Let's watch.
[06:53.860 --> 06:54.700]  Enjoy the movie.
[06:56.820 --> 06:58.380]  Make it a bit louder.
[06:58.580 --> 06:59.400]  A little louder.
[06:59.700 --> 07:00.200]  Louder.
[07:02.280 --> 07:03.480]  The sound on this is horrible.
[07:17.670 --> 07:19.490]  The sound on this is horrible.
[07:25.150 --> 07:26.390]  This guy repaid him scale.
[07:47.420 --> 07:48.420]  Turn on mics down.
[07:52.100 --> 07:52.420]  What?
[07:53.880 --> 07:55.500]  I'm a pup, but I don't have that kind of money.
[07:56.240 --> 07:56.840]  Hey, man.
[07:57.180 --> 07:57.840]  Hey, what's going on?
[07:57.960 --> 07:58.240]  Stop.
[07:58.700 --> 08:00.240]  I'm just trying to make a phone call.
[08:00.820 --> 08:02.380]  It's like $2.85.
[08:02.880 --> 08:03.420]  I ain't got that.
[08:03.860 --> 08:05.220]  You don't have to use money.
[08:05.280 --> 08:06.540]  All you gotta do is use Red Box.
[08:07.160 --> 08:07.560]  Really?
[08:08.140 --> 08:08.540]  Yeah.
[08:08.840 --> 08:10.280]  Like one of these things right here.
[08:10.460 --> 08:11.800]  Wow, that's a cool thing.
[08:12.000 --> 08:13.260]  How do you use that?
[08:13.540 --> 08:18.100]  Well, when I ask you for money, all you have to do is press the button and it thinks you're putting money in.
[08:18.280 --> 08:19.060]  It tricks the phone company.
[08:19.320 --> 08:19.620]  Wow.
[08:19.880 --> 08:20.540]  Here, try it.
[08:20.720 --> 08:21.060]  Okay.
[08:25.740 --> 08:26.140]  Wow.
[08:26.140 --> 08:28.180]  Thank you for using APMP.
[08:28.760 --> 08:29.440]  That rocks!
[08:30.460 --> 08:32.360]  Man, where can I get one of those?
[08:32.660 --> 08:35.400]  All we gotta do is go to Radio Shack and buy one of these tone dialers.
[08:35.400 --> 08:36.020]  Whoa!
[08:36.480 --> 08:37.060]  Okay, let's go!
[08:37.300 --> 08:37.680]  All right.
[08:50.670 --> 08:51.470]  Red Box rules!
[08:52.390 --> 08:53.070]  Hey, guys.
[08:53.250 --> 08:54.130]  Welcome to Radio Shack.
[08:54.210 --> 08:55.850]  You've got questions, all we gotta answers.
[08:56.090 --> 08:56.190]  Hey!
[08:58.870 --> 08:59.290]  Yeah.
[08:59.910 --> 09:03.310]  Would you like to get one of your Radio Shack 33 memory tone dialers, please?
[09:03.310 --> 09:05.390]  Uh, uh, okay.
[09:05.430 --> 09:06.450]  What's the part number on that?
[09:06.650 --> 09:08.710]  Well, it's 4-3-1-4-6, of course.
[09:09.250 --> 09:10.930]  Oh, uh, hold on a sec.
[09:11.130 --> 09:11.430]  All right.
[09:12.510 --> 09:14.870]  More like you got questions, we got blank stares.
[09:17.510 --> 09:20.050]  Yeah, uh, we got, uh, totals in stock.
[09:20.210 --> 09:21.370]  They're, uh, $5.99.
[09:21.550 --> 09:22.670]  They must be on parents or something.
[09:22.890 --> 09:23.850]  Okay, I'll take one, please.
[09:24.550 --> 09:25.110]  Uh, okay.
[09:25.190 --> 09:25.590]  Hold on.
[09:28.330 --> 09:29.310]  That guy's not too bright.
[09:30.230 --> 09:31.070]  You got that right.
[09:32.690 --> 09:34.630]  You, uh, get the box.
[09:34.930 --> 09:36.050]  You have hands.
[09:40.850 --> 09:41.390]  Thanks.
[09:41.690 --> 09:42.650]  Yeah, there you go, man.
[09:42.850 --> 09:43.910]  I hope you enjoy that.
[09:44.010 --> 09:44.870]  And here's your money.
[09:46.670 --> 09:47.430]  Thank you.
[10:18.190 --> 10:19.310]  The man's here!
[10:19.450 --> 10:19.770]  Cool!
[10:43.350 --> 10:44.150]  It's cool.
[10:53.640 --> 10:54.780]  Later that day.
[11:12.990 --> 11:15.740]  So, uh, how does this thing work?
[11:16.460 --> 11:22.480]  We just got a fine pay phone, uh, dial the phone number, and when it asks for money, we press the buttons and it thinks we put money in.
[11:22.800 --> 11:23.480]  Kick ass!
[11:23.770 --> 11:25.820]  All right, well, yeah, let's try it!
[11:26.060 --> 11:26.270]  All right.
[11:35.790 --> 11:37.870]  Please default to $3.85.
[11:38.570 --> 11:39.190]  Okay, go!
[11:43.330 --> 11:44.850]  Here's the next quarter just because I like you.
[11:46.230 --> 11:46.890]  That's funny!
[11:47.310 --> 11:49.450]  Thank you for using AT&T.
[11:50.170 --> 11:51.770]  This is AT&T Corporate Security.
[11:52.030 --> 11:54.210]  We notice that you're dealing services from this pay phone.
[11:54.510 --> 11:55.730]  We'll be dispatching the security store.
[11:55.730 --> 11:55.970]  Whoa!
[11:56.270 --> 11:56.630]  Dude!
[11:57.130 --> 11:57.530]  What?
[11:57.830 --> 11:58.650]  That's AT&T!
[11:58.890 --> 12:01.450]  They say they're going to send security or something!
[12:01.690 --> 12:02.510]  No, they're not going to send security.
[12:02.610 --> 12:04.510]  They always say that just to try and scare us.
[12:04.690 --> 12:05.050]  You sure?
[12:05.350 --> 12:06.290]  Yeah, they never do that.
[12:06.590 --> 12:07.830]  Okay, so now what?
[12:08.030 --> 12:09.110]  Let's just hang up and try again.
[12:09.390 --> 12:09.710]  Okay!
[12:15.260 --> 12:16.060]  Oh, shit!
[12:20.240 --> 12:23.560]  Well, that's another fine mess you got us into, Elephant.
[12:23.740 --> 12:24.540]  It's not my fault.
[12:24.720 --> 12:26.020]  It's the PLA site said it did it.
[12:26.860 --> 12:28.220]  Damn the PLA!
[12:28.220 --> 12:29.920]  Damn the PLA!
[12:31.560 --> 12:33.520]  Damn the PLA!
[12:40.820 --> 12:43.880]  That was, of course, the adventures of Elephant and Bird.
[12:50.820 --> 12:53.250]  I think Bird and Elephant were...
[12:53.820 --> 12:55.540]  I guess I know it was kind of a temporary port.
[12:55.840 --> 12:56.860]  I hope there was also a nice trial.
[12:56.940 --> 12:58.720]  My mouth don't give me no bricks.
[12:59.770 --> 13:01.290]  Rusty's, tasty kids.
[13:01.770 --> 13:03.460]  And I like protein shakes.
[13:07.960 --> 13:09.400]  Sorry, I'm a little slow tonight.
[13:10.740 --> 13:12.580]  It's 11, it's past 11 now.
[13:12.720 --> 13:13.500]  Past 11, yeah.
[13:13.780 --> 13:15.680]  The quarter after 11 we're allowed to be a little slow, I think.
[13:15.760 --> 13:15.880]  Yeah.
[13:16.460 --> 13:18.520]  And as are all of you allowed to be slow.
[13:19.160 --> 13:20.720]  But anyway, that was Elephant and Bird.
[13:21.720 --> 13:26.380]  And I think we can all take their adventures and their trials and tribulations to heart in this case.
[13:26.960 --> 13:30.120]  Well, it sure was more entertaining than Takedown.
[13:31.220 --> 13:31.620]  Yeah.
[13:33.340 --> 13:35.040]  It was more entertaining than Takedown.
[13:36.420 --> 13:41.120]  Which, you might not know this factoid about Takedown, it's actually Hackers 2, if you look it up on the file shows.
[13:41.120 --> 13:41.500]  Yeah.
[13:42.160 --> 13:43.400]  That's what I got off Kazaa.
[13:43.840 --> 13:44.580]  Talking to the mic.
[13:44.800 --> 13:45.780]  Sorry, sorry, sorry.
[13:46.580 --> 13:47.520]  Talking to the big end.
[13:47.680 --> 13:48.180]  The big end?
[13:48.460 --> 13:48.580]  Yeah.
[13:49.260 --> 13:50.160]  Much like real life.
[13:50.360 --> 13:50.540]  Yes.
[13:50.820 --> 13:51.180]  Sorry.
[13:53.500 --> 13:54.580]  Which one are we going to play now?
[13:54.640 --> 13:55.120]  Happy Birthday?
[13:56.000 --> 13:57.500]  We could go with Happy Birthday.
[13:58.300 --> 14:00.200]  Did they come here to watch videos?
[14:00.620 --> 14:00.900]  Yes.
[14:01.260 --> 14:03.260]  Well, if I can discuss this for a moment.
[14:03.380 --> 14:03.680]  Yeah, discuss.
[14:03.720 --> 14:08.640]  We'll have a brief discussion period, followed by maybe a question and answer, followed by God knows what.
[14:09.860 --> 14:11.320]  Jell-O wrestling in the network room?
[14:11.600 --> 14:12.000]  Shh.
[14:12.140 --> 14:19.560]  That, of course, was PLA's own Red Box Chili Pepper as Mr. Elephant, and our own Evil Cal as Fuzzy Bird.
[14:20.900 --> 14:28.640]  Now, those two could not be here with us tonight, but they are here with us in spirit, and probably over the stream, and yeah.
[14:28.880 --> 14:31.680]  So, a big hand for Red Box Chili Pepper and Evil Cal.
[14:32.980 --> 14:36.680]  They're the heart and soul of phonelosers.org, and a couple other parts as well.
[14:39.000 --> 14:43.720]  Also, the two people who walked past the payphone when they go to Red Boxing, that was them.
[14:43.740 --> 14:44.640]  Yeah, that was Evil Cal and RBCP.
[14:45.200 --> 14:47.520]  Yeah, apparently some famous director used to do that or something.
[14:47.920 --> 14:48.420]  But anyway.
[14:48.520 --> 14:49.580]  What was his name, Alfred Hitchcock?
[14:49.860 --> 14:50.540]  No, that wasn't it.
[14:50.740 --> 14:50.860]  No.
[14:51.560 --> 14:52.080]  I was in line.
[14:52.300 --> 14:52.940]  Sorry, sorry, sorry.
[14:53.560 --> 14:54.480]  I'm trying to go away from it.
[14:54.640 --> 14:54.780]  Okay.
[14:54.860 --> 14:56.160]  So, what you saw there was Red Boxing.
[14:56.480 --> 15:02.780]  Now, I don't think I really have to explain that too much, but yeah, I'm not going to explain that at all.
[15:02.780 --> 15:16.860]  I'll make a quick comment because Red Boxing still works, but people keep saying that it doesn't work from payphones when in reality it's the actual method of Red Boxing.
[15:16.860 --> 15:20.440]  Like in the video, they just pick up the phone, dial the number, and Red Box.
[15:20.760 --> 15:27.500]  But in real life, it doesn't work because either handset is muted or just the actual switch doesn't recognize Red Box.
[15:27.680 --> 15:28.580]  Well, I don't know why.
[15:29.900 --> 15:44.920]  Like, I don't know a lot about the payphone security measures, but one of the older methods that people use and probably still works today, as they dialed 411 back when it was still free, and they asked for a number.
[15:45.340 --> 15:52.840]  Like, they gave the person's name, they gave back the number, and they pushed 411 to connect them.
[15:53.080 --> 16:05.520]  And when 411 asks for money, they Red Boxed into the handset, and because the phone call was already made and the operator answered, the handset was unmuted, therefore, you could Red Box.
[16:05.520 --> 16:19.080]  Red Boxing has become, from what I understand, easier now from payphones because apparently some payphones now, specifically in New Jersey, don't mute the handsets.
[16:20.020 --> 16:22.020]  That's not like a growing trend or anything.
[16:22.200 --> 16:25.560]  What they usually do is have a live operator on the line.
[16:25.820 --> 16:28.480]  But sometimes that's confusing for people.
[16:28.480 --> 16:38.540]  I don't know, I mean like, nowadays you could, in certain parts of New Jersey, you can just go to payphone, dial a number, and Red Boxing without doing anything else, and then they'll go through.
[16:38.700 --> 16:40.000]  Yeah, but that's New Jersey.
[16:40.600 --> 16:42.980]  Yeah, I mean that's too far away from here to try.
[16:42.980 --> 16:43.340]  Yeah.
[16:43.460 --> 16:44.880]  They've got to attract people somehow.
[16:45.160 --> 16:45.600]  Yeah.
[16:46.180 --> 16:47.080]  Yes, we have a question.
[16:47.100 --> 16:47.340]  He has a question.
[16:47.820 --> 16:49.000]  Actually, an answer.
[16:49.440 --> 16:58.880]  Verizon has a policy, even if you do Red Box, and even if it's not Red Box, and you're using a tape recorder or something, the operators do have to let you go through.
[16:59.160 --> 16:59.580]  Wow.
[16:59.760 --> 17:00.600]  They have to?
[17:00.800 --> 17:01.040]  Wow.
[17:01.040 --> 17:01.680]  They have to.
[17:02.540 --> 17:07.480]  Because I was an operator for Verizon, I know that they can't say no.
[17:07.880 --> 17:12.640]  The operator cannot make a value judgment decision on that.
[17:12.680 --> 17:13.040]  Really?
[17:14.360 --> 17:14.760]  Well...
[17:15.820 --> 17:16.460]  That's interesting.
[17:16.660 --> 17:19.340]  I know the operator said she wouldn't put my call through.
[17:19.420 --> 17:26.500]  For those who couldn't hear that, we've just been told that operators, whether you're Red Boxing or not, are not allowed to make the judgment call and have to let your call go through.
[17:26.740 --> 17:27.580]  Verizon operators.
[17:28.060 --> 17:28.200]  Yeah.
[17:28.520 --> 17:29.240]  Verizon operators.
[17:29.240 --> 17:30.280]  Yeah, like Quest operators.
[17:30.520 --> 17:41.400]  This was some years back, but I can tell you, back in the 80s, how we've been doing a tape recorder deal at a school I was in, and the tape wasn't quite the right speed.
[17:41.560 --> 17:45.480]  And the exact effect of an operator, I'm sorry, we cannot accept your recording.
[17:47.100 --> 17:49.140]  So, I don't know, but maybe it changed.
[17:49.300 --> 17:50.180]  The problem...
[17:50.180 --> 17:58.840]  Obviously, because I worked upstairs temporarily with the people who were doing the coin things, you know, the operators that were just paying phones.
[17:59.240 --> 18:02.600]  And we were told you cannot, you cannot turn a customer down.
[18:03.180 --> 18:05.200]  And you cannot hang up on a customer ever.
[18:05.380 --> 18:07.020]  But did you have to report them to security?
[18:07.320 --> 18:08.360]  So, we will not be turned down.
[18:09.100 --> 18:09.160]  Yeah.
[18:09.680 --> 18:10.720]  We will not be undersold.
[18:11.320 --> 18:14.540]  Wait, but did you have to report them to security if you suspected toll fraud?
[18:15.660 --> 18:15.680]  Okay.
[18:15.920 --> 18:17.180]  How am I going to get security?
[18:17.460 --> 18:18.040]  No, I mean...
[18:18.880 --> 18:19.240]  Yeah.
[18:19.240 --> 18:19.760]  Yeah.
[18:22.140 --> 18:22.960]  To pay for.
[18:23.060 --> 18:24.500]  If I'm going to get there, you're wrong.
[18:24.700 --> 18:25.020]  Exactly.
[18:25.520 --> 18:25.580]  Okay.
[18:26.400 --> 18:29.880]  So, red boxing, of course, was an integral part of the PLA's birth.
[18:31.100 --> 18:34.560]  So, is ACTS still in use anywhere?
[18:34.920 --> 18:40.680]  Is ACTS still in use anywhere?
[18:40.680 --> 18:41.120]  Yeah.
[18:41.180 --> 18:42.000]  What do you guys think?
[18:43.520 --> 18:43.920]  Yeah.
[18:46.880 --> 18:47.280]  What?
[18:48.340 --> 18:48.740]  Yeah.
[18:49.580 --> 18:51.620]  But they mute the mics and other funny things.
[18:51.760 --> 18:53.240]  We can't be audited at one time.
[18:53.440 --> 18:54.620]  That does seem to be the consensus.
[18:55.380 --> 18:56.440]  So, moving on.
[18:58.920 --> 19:03.180]  The PLA has not always been known for phone-related pranks and stunts and things.
[19:03.340 --> 19:08.480]  What you saw just now is dramatization, but they've also become quite well-known for their live pranks.
[19:08.900 --> 19:10.220]  One of which we're about to see.
[19:10.820 --> 19:16.500]  This was the classic taking over a fast food restaurant's drive-thru radio.
[19:23.770 --> 19:24.270]  Pause it.
[19:24.830 --> 19:25.210]  Pause it.
[19:25.550 --> 19:26.190]  Oh, pause it.
[19:26.350 --> 19:26.430]  Alright.
[19:26.650 --> 19:26.710]  Yeah.
[19:29.370 --> 19:30.330]  Let me put it over the screen.
[19:30.410 --> 19:30.910]  Have we got it?
[19:31.550 --> 19:31.870]  Yeah.
[19:32.270 --> 19:32.370]  Okay.
[19:33.170 --> 19:35.130]  Now, what you're about to see is taking over a drive-thru radio.
[19:35.270 --> 19:36.970]  I think it's all pretty much self-explanatory.
[19:36.990 --> 19:37.190]  No, no, no.
[19:37.190 --> 19:39.990]  This is a happy birthday where they put the sign on.
[19:40.130 --> 19:41.450]  But they just have a scanner.
[19:41.670 --> 19:42.050]  Oh, okay.
[19:42.150 --> 19:42.750]  This is something else.
[19:42.750 --> 19:44.030]  I don't know what I'm talking about.
[19:44.170 --> 19:44.250]  Okay.
[19:44.350 --> 19:46.150]  They didn't use anything technical for this one.
[19:46.250 --> 19:48.170]  This one's just a random prank.
[19:48.790 --> 19:50.890]  This is a normal real-world prank that anyone can do.
[19:51.430 --> 19:51.970]  Pretty good.
[19:52.330 --> 19:52.730]  Yeah.
[19:52.930 --> 19:54.250]  It's pretty self-explanatory as well.
[19:56.690 --> 19:57.090]  Oh.
[19:58.110 --> 19:58.630]  Oh, wait.
[19:58.870 --> 19:59.910]  You have muted.
[19:59.910 --> 20:03.050]  Sing happy birthday to the drive-thru person and receive a free meal of your choice.
[20:03.190 --> 20:03.710]  Have a nice day.
[20:03.710 --> 20:04.130]  Wait a minute.
[20:07.280 --> 20:08.900]  This is our own red box chili pepper.
[20:10.600 --> 20:15.000]  Can I just get a large, er, I guess a large coke and a medium coke.
[20:15.480 --> 20:17.000]  We're at a large coke right now.
[20:17.180 --> 20:18.200]  Are you seeing medium cokes okay?
[20:18.500 --> 20:19.140]  Yeah, that'll work.
[20:19.960 --> 20:21.780]  Are you saying hot apple can over to that today?
[20:22.940 --> 20:23.880]  No, just the cokes.
[20:23.880 --> 20:25.320]  No, it's 277.
[20:25.340 --> 20:25.620]  Thank you.
[20:25.740 --> 20:26.300]  Police on the window.
[20:26.520 --> 20:26.740]  Thanks.
[20:28.820 --> 20:29.460]  I'm an order.
[20:44.360 --> 20:45.260]  Who is this?
[20:45.740 --> 20:46.180]  Yeah.
[20:46.460 --> 20:47.400]  It's your favorite cousin.
[20:47.960 --> 20:49.280]  It's not my birthday, though.
[20:50.540 --> 20:50.980]  No?
[20:51.280 --> 20:52.260]  Who do you think I am?
[20:52.920 --> 20:55.800]  Uh, you're the person that's on the microphone.
[20:59.580 --> 21:00.940]  You got the wrong person.
[21:00.940 --> 21:01.940]  Uh-huh.
[21:03.140 --> 21:12.360]  I want, uh, two of the big cheese with ketchup and onion.
[21:13.660 --> 21:15.360]  And one with just ketchup.
[21:15.980 --> 21:17.000]  It will be 287.
[21:17.060 --> 21:17.320]  Thank you.
[21:17.480 --> 21:18.420]  Please pull around to the window.
[21:18.700 --> 21:18.840]  Sure.
[21:20.800 --> 21:22.320]  To me, it's all worked for this.
[21:23.380 --> 21:24.060]  Thank you.
[21:24.160 --> 21:25.180]  All these might take over, please.
[21:26.140 --> 21:26.300]  Thank
[21:32.140 --> 21:32.600]  you.
[21:32.940 --> 21:34.360]  It will be 50.
[21:37.490 --> 21:38.330]  No, no.
[21:38.670 --> 21:38.850]  Okay.
[21:41.840 --> 21:42.840]  Ah, fuck yeah.
[21:50.850 --> 21:52.010]  There's an line out there.
[21:52.910 --> 21:53.670]  Bye, where are you.
[21:55.430 --> 21:55.890]  What's going on?
[21:55.890 --> 21:57.770]  On my end, sir, where are you seeing this sign?
[21:59.250 --> 22:00.030]  There's nobody.
[22:00.690 --> 22:00.970]  Nobody.
[22:00.970 --> 22:01.190]  There's nobody.
[22:03.890 --> 22:04.480]  Oh, my.
[22:04.480 --> 22:04.660]  My.
[22:05.200 --> 22:05.660]  There's nobody.
[22:06.140 --> 22:06.280]  They're like, oh my.
[22:06.340 --> 22:07.390]  There's an line out there.
[22:07.580 --> 22:07.910]  And I'm back.
[22:08.100 --> 22:08.390]  Oh,
[22:14.250 --> 22:14.950]  it's horrible.
[22:16.370 --> 22:17.290]  You're illuminate.
[22:21.630 --> 22:23.190]  I'm sorry, we can go with that.
[22:23.390 --> 22:25.730]  You love the steak there, let's go, though.
[22:26.610 --> 22:27.570]  Nice with the lemonade.
[22:27.910 --> 22:28.830]  Happy birthday.
[22:28.870 --> 22:29.150]  Mm-hmm.
[22:29.450 --> 22:36.520]  I think I'm going to give that lady a five.
[22:40.330 --> 22:41.550]  They should give her a free meal.
[22:42.350 --> 22:43.830]  If I was the manager there, I would.
[22:44.270 --> 22:44.850]  Just be nice.
[22:50.330 --> 22:51.590]  Sorry, Matt, you go to play.
[22:52.990 --> 22:54.330]  Happy birthday, dude.
[23:01.480 --> 23:02.280]  Woo-hoo!
[23:11.970 --> 23:12.810]  That's just...
[23:17.470 --> 23:18.730]  Now we've exhausted our DVD.
[23:19.270 --> 23:21.270]  Yeah, we've exhausted the DVD.
[23:23.650 --> 23:26.030]  We've exhausted our DVD, but we still have a CD-ROM.
[23:27.990 --> 23:36.030]  Yeah, there was another video that they did where they took over a Taco Bell with a modified Yesu ham radio, much like they saw on Freedom Down Time.
[23:37.290 --> 23:38.250]  And, yeah.
[23:38.570 --> 23:38.750]  Hilarity, too.
[23:38.750 --> 23:39.990]  We got inundated with emails.
[23:40.230 --> 23:41.750]  How do you take over Taco Bell?
[23:44.430 --> 23:45.580]  Oh, can I use my...
[23:46.490 --> 23:46.870]  Scanner.
[23:47.110 --> 23:48.210]  Yeah, can I use my scanner?
[23:48.550 --> 23:49.530]  Can I use my FRS radio?
[23:49.890 --> 23:50.530]  Take over Taco Bell.
[23:50.690 --> 23:51.750]  Take over the Taco Bell.
[23:51.990 --> 23:52.090]  Yeah.
[23:52.430 --> 23:54.070]  I wish we had that video with us, but we don't.
[23:54.510 --> 23:56.250]  The FCC came and bitched us.
[23:57.950 --> 23:58.770]  I don't know.
[23:59.110 --> 23:59.130]  I don't know.
[23:59.130 --> 23:59.570]  What do you call it?
[23:59.610 --> 23:59.870]  What?
[24:03.180 --> 24:03.540]  Okay.
[24:03.800 --> 24:06.920]  So that was not a very technical prank at all.
[24:07.220 --> 24:07.760]  So, yeah.
[24:08.000 --> 24:11.900]  It shows what ingenuity the PLA has, that it's not just about phones.
[24:11.900 --> 24:14.940]  It's about general comedy, to be quite honest with you.
[24:15.020 --> 24:15.120]  Very low tech.
[24:15.360 --> 24:16.620]  Anybody can go ahead and do this.
[24:16.760 --> 24:18.340]  Very low tech and very easy to do.
[24:18.480 --> 24:25.080]  Which is why a lot of tutorials and what you just saw, you know, feel free to, you know, consult with either of us privately over the course of the con.
[24:27.320 --> 24:31.560]  But that's the reason that the PLA has been such a draw for people.
[24:31.800 --> 24:36.060]  When people just start getting into it, it's kind of like a draw to people.
[24:36.180 --> 24:40.080]  And people go off from the PLA and they do better stuff.
[24:40.280 --> 24:41.360]  We're a springboard, if you will.
[24:41.400 --> 24:42.040]  They're a springboard, yeah.
[24:42.040 --> 24:42.520]  We're a gateway.
[24:42.820 --> 24:46.400]  But some of us get trapped here and we do panels at HOPE 5.
[24:46.640 --> 24:47.400]  Some of us are, yeah.
[24:47.500 --> 24:48.680]  Some of us never move on.
[24:48.980 --> 24:49.180]  Yeah.
[24:49.420 --> 24:49.800]  Oh, yes.
[24:49.880 --> 24:50.300]  We have a comment.
[24:50.460 --> 24:53.080]  I was listening to some of the recordings on the website.
[24:53.080 --> 24:56.240]  Some of you guys were actually answering technical support.
[24:56.380 --> 24:56.980]  Oh, yes.
[24:57.180 --> 24:57.680]  That's what we're getting to.
[24:57.800 --> 24:58.660]  We have VX.
[24:58.900 --> 24:59.620]  How did you...
[24:59.620 --> 25:00.400]  Well, we'll...
[25:00.400 --> 25:01.180]  Do you want me to say that?
[25:01.360 --> 25:01.560]  Because I...
[25:01.560 --> 25:03.460]  There's some very nice features in the phone system.
[25:03.760 --> 25:05.000]  That about Murdock here.
[25:05.180 --> 25:05.280]  Yeah.
[25:05.640 --> 25:11.080]  What we did was Bell South let you do a lot of remote call forwarding.
[25:11.180 --> 25:11.300]  Yep.
[25:11.760 --> 25:14.260]  If you just call their business office.
[25:14.260 --> 25:18.160]  And you usually got to have the name of the business, the address, and like...
[25:18.160 --> 25:19.900]  You got to fake a manager's name.
[25:20.020 --> 25:21.740]  You have to ask Steve a little bit before you...
[25:21.860 --> 25:24.320]  You got to do a little social engineering to do that.
[25:24.980 --> 25:25.940]  But what you...
[25:25.940 --> 25:26.680]  It's basically...
[25:26.680 --> 25:28.260]  And Bell South will give it up real easy.
[25:29.400 --> 25:31.140]  And we did a...
[25:31.140 --> 25:32.120]  What is that?
[25:32.700 --> 25:33.260]  No, no, no.
[25:33.420 --> 25:33.440]  Hold on.
[25:33.520 --> 25:34.080]  I'm just fucking around.
[25:34.200 --> 25:34.720]  Yeah, yeah.
[25:35.940 --> 25:38.920]  But Bell South will let you in a quest to...
[25:38.920 --> 25:41.900]  Are two very easy ones to remotely call forward numbers to.
[25:42.880 --> 25:44.720]  And we got...
[25:45.480 --> 25:46.260]  Excuse me.
[25:46.960 --> 25:47.880]  Movie theater.
[25:48.440 --> 25:49.020]  Hotels.
[25:49.580 --> 25:50.280]  Yeah, the hotels.
[25:50.360 --> 25:51.520]  Which we don't have.
[25:51.880 --> 25:52.260]  Which we don't have.
[25:52.840 --> 25:53.420]  Hotels.
[25:54.060 --> 25:54.460]  Auto...
[25:54.460 --> 25:56.200]  Auto parts store.
[25:56.260 --> 25:57.240]  Which we do have.
[25:57.700 --> 25:57.990]  Auto...
[25:58.260 --> 25:58.620]  Yeah.
[25:59.760 --> 26:00.340]  We...
[26:00.340 --> 26:00.900]  Yeah.
[26:01.780 --> 26:03.500]  Do you want to hear some of these?
[26:04.660 --> 26:05.620]  What's what they came for?
[26:06.420 --> 26:06.500]  Yeah.
[26:06.780 --> 26:08.180]  Basically after setting up the...
[26:08.180 --> 26:10.180]  These are just sound clips so you don't have to mess with the video feed or anything.
[26:10.180 --> 26:10.600]  The remote call.
[26:11.160 --> 26:13.660]  So just close your eyes and visualize what's going on.
[26:13.920 --> 26:17.520]  Besides, if you put the video feed on, we'll all have to look at his Winamp skin and just...
[26:17.520 --> 26:18.460]  We don't need to do that.
[26:18.640 --> 26:18.760]  Yeah.
[26:18.820 --> 26:19.980]  I have horrible music taste.
[26:21.720 --> 26:22.180]  All right.
[26:22.300 --> 26:23.860]  This is an auto parts call.
[26:24.400 --> 26:25.200]  Hello, Auto...
[26:25.580 --> 26:25.940]  Yeah.
[26:26.260 --> 26:27.620]  I'm looking for a carb kit?
[26:28.120 --> 26:29.080]  A carburetor kit?
[26:29.240 --> 26:29.500]  Yes.
[26:30.720 --> 26:31.080]  Um...
[26:31.080 --> 26:31.520]  For what?
[26:32.420 --> 26:32.780]  Uh...
[26:33.420 --> 26:33.820]  Maybe...
[26:33.820 --> 26:35.180]  89 Dodge Dakota?
[26:35.660 --> 26:36.720]  89 Dodge Dakota?
[26:36.880 --> 26:38.260]  Why don't you walk your ass in here and get it?
[26:38.380 --> 26:38.780]  Okay?
[26:39.800 --> 26:41.380]  What the heck are you talking about, buddy?
[26:41.600 --> 26:45.380]  I'm talking about you quit being lazy and talking on the phone.
[26:45.920 --> 26:49.600]  Coming in here and picking up your precious carb kit for your piece of crap, Dodge.
[26:50.880 --> 26:52.100]  Why are you giving this attitude?
[26:52.280 --> 26:54.440]  I'm just asking for a frickin' price on a carb kit.
[26:55.000 --> 26:57.040]  Oh, you don't need to use the word frickin' on our phone.
[26:57.540 --> 26:57.820]  That's...
[26:57.820 --> 26:58.260]  That's bad language.
[26:58.920 --> 26:59.560]  Yeah, I know.
[27:00.260 --> 27:01.720]  You know, you're talking to a 16-year-old.
[27:04.000 --> 27:05.420]  Who the f*ck did you hear talking to?
[27:05.500 --> 27:06.560]  We are Christians here, sir.
[27:06.640 --> 27:08.120]  I'm a jerk on the other end of my phone.
[27:08.240 --> 27:09.200]  He doesn't know that...
[27:09.200 --> 27:11.780]  I'm a jerk on the other end of my phone right now talking to me.
[27:12.460 --> 27:14.240]  You're obviously not known if I'm getting ripped right now.
[27:14.360 --> 27:17.000]  Didn't you ever get your own f*cking carb kit for a piece of shit Dodge?
[27:19.040 --> 27:19.440]  Yeah.
[27:19.720 --> 27:21.800]  That was when we were...
[27:21.800 --> 27:27.620]  That was probably near the end of the night when we were getting bored, and Auto Parts store was about to close.
[27:28.520 --> 27:34.580]  And we just decided to get real mean with the customers, but we're not that mean all the time.
[27:34.580 --> 27:36.740]  We somehow found ourselves receiving Auto Parts calls.
[27:36.920 --> 27:38.200]  Yeah, we received...
[27:38.720 --> 27:39.220]  Hold on.
[27:39.280 --> 27:40.280]  Do you want to play the theater calls?
[27:40.440 --> 27:40.980]  Those are kind of...
[27:40.980 --> 27:41.120]  Yeah, yeah.
[27:41.180 --> 27:42.260]  Throw in a couple of theater ones.
[27:42.680 --> 27:45.740]  This was a movie theater, which shall remain nameless.
[27:47.540 --> 27:47.900]  And...
[27:48.340 --> 27:48.700]  What?
[27:49.240 --> 27:50.000]  Do the kitty-corn.
[27:50.200 --> 27:50.980]  The kitty-corn one?
[27:51.160 --> 27:51.780]  Yeah, there you go.
[27:53.060 --> 27:53.920]  I gotta find it.
[27:54.000 --> 27:55.300]  This one's...
[27:55.300 --> 27:56.320]  Yeah, this was...
[27:56.840 --> 28:00.400]  This was the line that you would normally call to get the recording of what movies are playing at what times.
[28:01.960 --> 28:06.740]  But instead of that nice friendly recording, they ended up getting us, pretty much.
[28:08.880 --> 28:09.760]  I gotta find it.
[28:09.900 --> 28:10.080]  Hang on.
[28:10.420 --> 28:11.080]  Talk some more.
[28:13.260 --> 28:13.440]  Yeah.
[28:13.980 --> 28:14.760]  Nice call from Murdoch.
[28:14.960 --> 28:16.200]  Why didn't my mommy love me?
[28:17.280 --> 28:18.660]  This call was done during...
[28:18.660 --> 28:21.820]  Actually, this was back about a year...
[28:21.820 --> 28:23.040]  No, about seven months ago.
[28:23.180 --> 28:25.200]  So some of the movie titles are out of date, obviously.
[28:26.140 --> 28:26.880]  Thank you.
[28:27.360 --> 28:27.460]  Thank you.
[28:27.460 --> 28:28.040]  Venom is calling.
[28:28.320 --> 28:29.620]  Help me help you.
[28:29.940 --> 28:31.080]  Please, you help.
[28:31.600 --> 28:34.200]  What's the time for SWAT?
[28:34.600 --> 28:35.360]  For what?
[28:35.700 --> 28:35.840]  What?
[28:35.880 --> 28:36.300]  Speak up.
[28:36.780 --> 28:37.320]  Speak up.
[28:37.920 --> 28:38.440]  SWAT?
[28:38.560 --> 28:38.800]  Yes.
[28:39.340 --> 28:39.600]  Okay.
[28:39.880 --> 28:41.140]  Do you know what SWAT stands for?
[28:41.660 --> 28:42.160]  No.
[28:43.280 --> 28:45.940]  If you can tell us what it stands for, then we can tell you the movie times.
[28:45.940 --> 28:46.960]  Can you ask?
[28:47.160 --> 28:48.040]  Ask somebody in your family.
[28:51.140 --> 28:52.180]  I'm a guest.
[28:52.600 --> 28:55.080]  It stands for Special Weapons and Tactics.
[28:55.280 --> 28:55.400]  Okay.
[28:55.800 --> 28:56.060]  All right.
[28:56.140 --> 29:01.920]  Now the movie theater times are 14, 13, 11, and...
[29:01.920 --> 29:02.560]  What's that?
[29:02.740 --> 29:03.160]  Oh, right.
[29:03.480 --> 29:03.680]  Gene.
[29:07.760 --> 29:12.980]  We, for some reason, all the 14-year-old kids wanted to know what the movie times were on that Saturday.
[29:14.140 --> 29:14.660]  Just crazy.
[29:16.080 --> 29:16.960]  Oh, which one?
[29:17.700 --> 29:18.100]  Pizza.
[29:19.240 --> 29:19.820]  Which one?
[29:21.020 --> 29:21.780]  Pizza on the grill?
[29:21.980 --> 29:22.060]  Yeah.
[29:22.560 --> 29:24.960]  This one's kind of funny, actually.
[29:25.700 --> 29:26.280]  Hi, there.
[29:28.260 --> 29:29.280]  Who is this?
[29:29.820 --> 29:30.720]  This is Pizza Hut.
[29:31.020 --> 29:31.720]  Did you get a wrong number?
[29:32.540 --> 29:33.740]  This is not Pizza Hut.
[29:34.120 --> 29:35.300]  I am, too, Pizza Hut.
[29:36.260 --> 29:37.040]  No, you're not.
[29:37.940 --> 29:40.360]  I've got pizzas on the grill right now, right in front of me.
[29:41.000 --> 29:42.640]  Pizza on the grill.
[29:42.920 --> 29:44.620]  Excuse me, pizzas don't cook on a grill.
[29:44.860 --> 29:45.960]  Oh, you're smarter than me, then.
[29:47.020 --> 29:48.020]  You're an idiot.
[29:48.360 --> 29:50.060]  Yeah, I'm an idiot for not knowing how to cook a pizza.
[29:50.700 --> 29:53.780]  I have cops out my building, three cop cars, and they're gonna...
[29:53.780 --> 29:55.240]  You can get in jail for this.
[29:55.400 --> 29:56.160]  I can get in jail?
[29:56.600 --> 29:58.700]  You can be put in jail for threatening people.
[29:58.920 --> 29:59.820]  You don't speak very well.
[30:00.720 --> 30:01.860]  Is that why you're working there?
[30:02.680 --> 30:03.860]  Uh, yeah, it is.
[30:04.060 --> 30:04.220]  Okay.
[30:05.460 --> 30:07.100]  Apparently, at least I don't threat people.
[30:07.420 --> 30:08.160]  I didn't threaten anyone.
[30:08.960 --> 30:09.740]  Yes, you did.
[30:09.980 --> 30:10.140]  Did not?
[30:10.880 --> 30:14.360]  People are calling me, and you're threatening people.
[30:14.600 --> 30:15.000]  No, I'm not.
[30:17.420 --> 30:19.140]  Who should I believe, you or them?
[30:19.420 --> 30:19.940]  Probably me.
[30:20.200 --> 30:21.100]  I'm pretty trustworthy.
[30:21.660 --> 30:22.280]  Yeah, right.
[30:22.440 --> 30:23.020]  I am.
[30:23.520 --> 30:24.020]  Mm-hmm.
[30:24.380 --> 30:24.980]  Who are you?
[30:25.920 --> 30:27.200]  I'm not telling you my name.
[30:27.400 --> 30:27.720]  Please.
[30:28.000 --> 30:28.500]  Who are you?
[30:28.500 --> 30:28.520]  Who?
[30:29.620 --> 30:30.440]  Well, this is Kyle.
[30:32.140 --> 30:33.200]  Pizza Hut, can I help you?
[30:34.220 --> 30:35.600]  Is this the movie theater?
[30:35.820 --> 30:36.220]  No, it's Pizza Hut.
[30:36.220 --> 30:36.900]  It sure is.
[30:36.960 --> 30:37.640]  How can we help you?
[30:37.940 --> 30:40.220]  Oh, um, I just want the listings of the movies.
[30:40.280 --> 30:41.080]  I didn't know.
[30:41.460 --> 30:42.760]  Uh, which movie do you want to see?
[30:43.020 --> 30:44.960]  Because I'm not going to tell you all of them.
[30:45.120 --> 30:45.480]  Oh, okay.
[30:45.580 --> 30:46.160]  Cabin Fever?
[30:46.920 --> 30:48.100]  Uh, I'm sorry.
[30:48.140 --> 30:49.180]  Are you over 17?
[30:49.840 --> 30:50.160]  Yes.
[30:51.260 --> 30:51.600]  What?
[30:51.600 --> 30:52.120]  You are 17.
[30:52.560 --> 30:55.120]  Uh, can you, can you read off your, uh, social security number for me?
[30:55.320 --> 30:58.480]  Well, isn't it just, you can just see what time the movie is?
[30:58.560 --> 30:59.600]  Because usually they're recording.
[31:00.160 --> 31:03.200]  Uh, I need your, I need your social security number for you, for you to make sure you're 17.
[31:03.500 --> 31:05.460]  Oh, I don't have my, I'm calling from home.
[31:05.520 --> 31:07.320]  I don't have my stuff with me, like right here.
[31:07.320 --> 31:11.140]  Uh, I, it really is, it really is kind of important.
[31:11.360 --> 31:13.460]  Could it, could you possibly just try to get that real quick?
[31:14.240 --> 31:14.640]  What?
[31:16.940 --> 31:22.300]  Hold on, and, and her, her mom calls back about five minutes later.
[31:23.060 --> 31:23.760]  What am I going to help you?
[31:24.640 --> 31:27.360]  Yes, hi, my daughter just called to find out what the, hello?
[31:28.100 --> 31:28.500]  Yes, hello.
[31:28.640 --> 31:28.760]  Yeah.
[31:29.240 --> 31:31.520]  Um, to find out what the, uh, movies are.
[31:31.960 --> 31:35.720]  Well, um, you just asked her the social security number.
[31:35.720 --> 31:36.960]  Oh, that would, that would have been Nathan.
[31:37.220 --> 31:38.220]  He's, he's also worked here.
[31:39.220 --> 31:42.020]  Okay, well I'm going to report him because he's not supposed to be asking that.
[31:42.220 --> 31:44.840]  Well, he, he needs her social security number so we can confirm how old she is.
[31:45.180 --> 31:47.380]  No, you never ask anybody social security number.
[31:47.460 --> 31:49.960]  That's against the law to ask people their social security numbers.
[31:50.060 --> 31:51.300]  Well, how are we supposed to know if she's over 17?
[31:52.300 --> 31:53.860]  You ask for an ID when they get there.
[31:53.920 --> 31:54.760]  You don't ask over the phone.
[31:54.860 --> 31:55.660]  That's against the law.
[31:55.860 --> 31:57.180]  You could...
[31:57.180 --> 31:59.620]  But could, could, could she hold her, could she give her her ID over the phone?
[31:59.740 --> 32:00.880]  I get her driver's license number.
[32:01.520 --> 32:01.800]  No.
[32:02.220 --> 32:03.120]  It's against the law.
[32:03.300 --> 32:04.920]  So you guys better stop it right now.
[32:04.920 --> 32:05.860]  What, to ask for ID?
[32:06.460 --> 32:08.240]  To ask for somebody's social security number.
[32:08.340 --> 32:08.980]  It's against the law.
[32:09.420 --> 32:11.060]  Well, we just have to find out if she's old enough.
[32:11.520 --> 32:14.040]  We can't have kids... Nope, I'll report you guys if you do that again.
[32:14.200 --> 32:14.900]  Well, we will do it again.
[32:15.100 --> 32:15.140]  Bye.
[32:15.240 --> 32:15.900]  That's our policy.
[32:16.400 --> 32:17.160]  Nope, bye.
[32:17.300 --> 32:18.180]  That's our policy, bitch.
[32:24.300 --> 32:28.180]  That, of course, was our own Murdoch and Red Box Chili Pepper once again.
[32:28.420 --> 32:31.540]  As you can see, we spend our Saturdays on the telephone.
[32:31.840 --> 32:32.920]  We're lonely people.
[32:34.020 --> 32:34.840]  Yes, we have a comment.
[32:35.160 --> 32:38.100]  Did you guys ever hear about the guy that they're looking for?
[32:38.100 --> 32:39.940]  He calls, like, department stores.
[32:40.220 --> 32:41.320]  And they're getting...
[32:41.320 --> 32:43.320]  They're trying to charge him with rape by proxy.
[32:43.420 --> 32:44.100]  No, no, that's...
[32:44.780 --> 32:46.040]  Is that the Wendy's guy?
[32:46.180 --> 32:48.140]  He calls...
[32:48.140 --> 33:00.320]  It's a guy who calls fast food restaurants and tells the managers that the employees are stealing and makes the... that he's from the FBI and the employees are stealing and he makes the managers strip search the employees.
[33:00.700 --> 33:03.240]  And amazingly, the managers comply.
[33:07.560 --> 33:08.080]  And...
[33:08.080 --> 33:09.980]  We don't own this type of behavior, nor were we involved in it.
[33:10.160 --> 33:10.480]  But...
[33:10.480 --> 33:13.240]  I just gotta say, that's the kind of news stories we need, I think.
[33:15.100 --> 33:15.560]  Yes, sir?
[33:15.700 --> 33:19.680]  Where did you guys have these calls forward in two that it wasn't able to be traced back to any new director?
[33:19.840 --> 33:22.380]  It was a public voice bridge, yeah.
[33:23.540 --> 33:24.180]  The 435.
[33:25.440 --> 33:26.640]  For those of you in the know.
[33:26.640 --> 33:27.180]  Yeah.
[33:27.420 --> 33:28.040]  Should we...
[33:28.040 --> 33:29.440]  Another thing...
[33:29.440 --> 33:31.300]  Another thing that started up rather recently.
[33:32.380 --> 33:38.020]  One cultural meme that's been and gone, and for some people hopefully will stay gone, is the flash mob.
[33:38.560 --> 33:40.500]  Now, we decided to take this concept.
[33:41.280 --> 33:44.780]  And we actually would have to leave the house for that, and we didn't like that at all.
[33:45.360 --> 33:45.760]  So...
[33:45.760 --> 33:47.220]  The sun scares us.
[33:47.360 --> 33:48.700]  Yes, we decided...
[33:48.700 --> 33:53.980]  We came up with a little something called the phone mob, which my dear friend Judas will now elucidate.
[33:54.720 --> 34:05.380]  Basically, what a phone mob is, is we get a group of people together and pre-plan a target, such as a radio show, anything call-in, where you're going to get press and media, and people are going to hear it.
[34:05.480 --> 34:09.000]  And you get all these people together, and you come up with a fictitious story or a plan.
[34:09.220 --> 34:10.540]  Judas, listen to the mic, dude.
[34:11.180 --> 34:20.240]  Come time when the event kicks off, everybody calls in simultaneously, basically crashing all the phone lines and getting our voices on the air to deliver our message.
[34:20.980 --> 34:22.800]  It's been pretty successful so far.
[34:22.800 --> 34:24.220]  I think we have a couple calls from that.
[34:24.520 --> 34:27.020]  Yes, we have the one where we took over the...
[34:27.020 --> 34:27.760]  What's my bid?
[34:27.880 --> 34:28.580]  AM station.
[34:28.820 --> 34:28.920]  Yeah.
[34:29.300 --> 34:33.300]  Yeah, we recently did one that was very successful in a program called What's Your Bid?
[34:33.640 --> 34:35.460]  And this was being broadcast, I think, out of Illinois.
[34:35.900 --> 34:39.160]  Yeah, tell them what the What's Your Bid was about.
[34:39.260 --> 34:41.920]  Yeah, what it is, is it's kind of like a garage sale put over the radio.
[34:42.080 --> 34:50.760]  People can call in and bid on stuff that's already set up by the radio station or donated, and we ended up getting on there and causing a little tiny bit of havoc.
[34:52.160 --> 34:53.120]  Do you want to play it?
[34:53.320 --> 34:53.720]  Yeah, go ahead.
[34:53.860 --> 34:54.060]  All right.
[34:55.200 --> 34:56.380]  And let's go to the phones.
[34:56.820 --> 34:57.840]  Good morning, what's your bid?
[34:58.560 --> 35:02.100]  I want to bid on the animal cactus juice for $3.
[35:03.740 --> 35:04.100]  Hello?
[35:04.500 --> 35:04.740]  Yeah.
[35:05.080 --> 35:07.840]  Oh, my number is 465-4545.
[35:09.540 --> 35:10.560]  Thank you, sir.
[35:11.480 --> 35:12.320]  Good morning, what's your bid?
[35:12.860 --> 35:15.280]  Oh, hey, I'd like to bid on the cactus collection for $9 million.
[35:18.360 --> 35:21.640]  And my number is 349-174-97324.
[35:22.800 --> 35:24.020]  Good morning, what's your bid?
[35:24.320 --> 35:27.960]  Power bid on Midtown and power bid on the Mosaic.
[35:28.560 --> 35:30.120]  259 or 229.
[35:30.400 --> 35:31.980]  Hey, what are they talking about, cactus?
[35:32.720 --> 35:34.720]  A couple of comedians this morning, I guess.
[35:35.460 --> 35:35.780]  Oh.
[35:35.780 --> 35:38.280]  I see Mark was nice, but I have other things to say about them.
[35:39.300 --> 35:40.680]  Well, they think they're cute.
[35:41.060 --> 35:47.780]  If they're that cute, I'll tell them to come on, bring out their million-dollar bag with all the money in it that they can collect from cactus.
[35:48.300 --> 35:49.000]  All right, thanks.
[35:51.100 --> 35:52.180]  Good morning, what's your bid?
[35:53.340 --> 35:55.220]  I'd like to bid $10 million.
[35:59.230 --> 36:00.390]  Good morning, what's your bid?
[36:01.470 --> 36:10.290]  I'd like to bid $48 on a carton of cigarettes and a cactus light.
[36:11.110 --> 36:12.730]  Good morning, what's your bid?
[36:13.290 --> 36:17.350]  I'd like to bid $27 on the saxophone.
[36:19.610 --> 36:20.490]  Thank you.
[36:20.810 --> 36:21.670]  Good morning, what's your bid?
[36:22.290 --> 36:23.510]  I'd like to bid $5.
[36:24.190 --> 36:25.410]  Good morning, what's your bid?
[36:26.590 --> 36:28.390]  Yes, I'd like to bid on the cactus.
[36:31.750 --> 36:33.190]  Good morning, what's your bid?
[36:33.190 --> 36:37.970]  I'd like to bid $40 on one of the children from the children's party.
[36:39.830 --> 36:41.010]  Good morning, what's your bid?
[36:41.010 --> 36:44.750]  I'd like to bid $50 for the saxophone lesbian.
[36:47.450 --> 36:50.590]  Instead, why don't you find something else to decide to play on the phone like you're 10.
[36:52.810 --> 36:54.050]  Good morning, what's your bid?
[36:58.110 --> 37:00.330]  Village, 466-5961.
[37:00.730 --> 37:04.910]  Yeah, stay off the telephone if you don't want to play with the game.
[37:05.490 --> 37:08.810]  Thank you, that's only a bid of $26 on the Village Inn.
[37:09.150 --> 37:10.290]  Good morning, what's your bid?
[37:10.990 --> 37:12.790]  Cactus, cactus, cactus, cactus.
[37:13.850 --> 37:14.570]  Cactus, cactus.
[37:15.970 --> 37:16.710]  And cactus.
[37:16.950 --> 37:19.730]  How about a life, a life, a life, a life, a life life?
[37:21.470 --> 37:24.250]  That went on for about 45 minutes.
[37:25.350 --> 37:26.050]  Pretty much.
[37:26.470 --> 37:28.250]  No joke, 45 minutes worth.
[37:32.770 --> 37:35.710]  If you guys want to hear the rest of that, we have all these clips on the phone.
[37:36.050 --> 37:38.930]  Yeah, we have media CDs for you to have.
[37:39.070 --> 37:40.750]  We have our PLA media CDs.
[37:40.930 --> 37:43.710]  We have a limited supply, but at the end of the panel, just come right up and grab one.
[37:43.850 --> 37:44.150]  Yes.
[37:45.030 --> 37:56.290]  We can't afford cases or anything, but it has all our prank call clips, all our video clips, and a snapshot of the website and the entire content of the site, and some other stuff that I don't even know about.
[37:56.450 --> 37:59.510]  Oh, every archive of the site since it's been up since 1997.
[38:00.450 --> 38:01.030]  Pretty much.
[38:01.250 --> 38:01.330]  Yeah.
[38:02.230 --> 38:02.890]  So, good stuff here.
[38:05.330 --> 38:10.730]  We also, we have time for a couple of trivia questions, which we have something that's, I think, kind of cool.
[38:11.190 --> 38:11.550]  We have...
[38:15.050 --> 38:19.150]  The last two remaining original design PLA t-shirts.
[38:20.790 --> 38:22.490]  This is an out of print design.
[38:22.690 --> 38:23.810]  It will not be made anymore.
[38:24.010 --> 38:25.990]  You can see it on a couple of people today.
[38:26.310 --> 38:26.690]  Model.
[38:26.830 --> 38:27.310]  Model, baby.
[38:27.730 --> 38:27.990]  Yes.
[38:28.290 --> 38:34.870]  And for those of you old enough to remember when the phone book had this anti-drug advertisement on the back that said, Mom and Dad, I use drugs.
[38:35.310 --> 38:36.710]  This is our little version.
[38:37.570 --> 38:38.990]  Mom and Dad, I'm a phone freak?
[38:39.290 --> 38:39.570]  Yeah.
[38:39.830 --> 38:41.190]  Or no, I screw the telephone company.
[38:41.390 --> 38:42.670]  We have two of these.
[38:42.890 --> 38:49.650]  And to obtain these, we just have a couple of, I think, really important trivia questions, things that we should know.
[38:49.930 --> 38:53.330]  The first one, and show of hands, please don't just scream anything out.
[38:55.150 --> 38:55.550]  Pickles.
[38:56.230 --> 38:56.790]  You're right.
[38:56.990 --> 38:57.310]  Yes.
[38:57.530 --> 38:57.590]  Correct.
[38:57.930 --> 38:59.030]  Give that man a shirt.
[39:00.430 --> 39:00.970]  Just kidding.
[39:00.970 --> 39:01.650]  You get nothing.
[39:01.850 --> 39:02.490]  You get nothing.
[39:03.810 --> 39:05.470]  Except our undying love.
[39:05.650 --> 39:05.850]  Yes.
[39:06.270 --> 39:09.890]  But are there any Gilligan's Island fans in the room today?
[39:11.070 --> 39:11.810]  Yes, there are.
[39:11.970 --> 39:12.390]  Three of you.
[39:12.470 --> 39:12.650]  Cool.
[39:12.950 --> 39:13.250]  Awesome.
[39:13.870 --> 39:14.170]  Okay.
[39:14.450 --> 39:20.770]  Well, there was an episode of Gilligan's Island that featured, as the main theme of the episode, a certain tried and true phone freak trick.
[39:21.250 --> 39:22.630]  It's even one of the colored boxes.
[39:23.550 --> 39:30.010]  Now, if anyone knows which trick of the phone freak trade was the basis for a Gilligan's Island episode...
[39:30.010 --> 39:30.830]  Yes, in the back, sir.
[39:31.030 --> 39:31.990]  Coconut box.
[39:32.650 --> 39:33.910]  Can you explain?
[39:34.050 --> 39:34.910]  Be more specific, please.
[39:35.830 --> 39:41.970]  They stirred a coconut to put a holding on a federal...
[39:41.970 --> 39:42.550]  I don't know.
[39:44.750 --> 39:46.810]  That's just as good, except it was a conch show.
[39:47.150 --> 39:47.230]  Yeah.
[39:47.490 --> 39:48.130]  Yes, sir.
[39:48.670 --> 39:50.230]  They used the coconut to beige box?
[39:50.430 --> 39:50.790]  Yes.
[39:51.110 --> 39:51.590]  Beige boxing.
[39:51.810 --> 39:52.010]  Yes.
[39:53.110 --> 39:53.390]  Okay.
[39:54.110 --> 39:54.250]  Woo!
[39:54.930 --> 39:55.450]  Miss!
[39:56.350 --> 39:56.750]  Yes.
[39:57.350 --> 39:57.370]  Woo!
[39:57.950 --> 39:58.350]  Thanks.
[39:59.450 --> 40:02.030]  Our second trivia question, do we have a second trivia question?
[40:02.490 --> 40:04.310]  Yeah, let's just make one up on the spot.
[40:04.610 --> 40:04.670]  Okay.
[40:05.330 --> 40:05.770]  Uh...
[40:05.770 --> 40:06.090]  Hackers movie.
[40:06.130 --> 40:06.390]  Hmm.
[40:06.650 --> 40:07.090]  The Hackers movie.
[40:07.310 --> 40:08.650]  The Hackers movie.
[40:08.870 --> 40:10.010]  No, the Hackers movies.
[40:11.450 --> 40:11.890]  Um...
[40:11.890 --> 40:12.730]  Yeah, the names...
[40:12.730 --> 40:12.990]  Okay, yes.
[40:13.930 --> 40:17.610]  Are there any fans of the wonderful cinematic piece called Hackers?
[40:19.710 --> 40:21.050]  This will be way too easy.
[40:21.050 --> 40:21.090]  Don't be embarrassed.
[40:21.230 --> 40:22.590]  We've got to make something really hard.
[40:23.030 --> 40:23.430]  Is it the...
[40:23.430 --> 40:23.610]  Mm-hmm.
[40:23.830 --> 40:24.350]  Better to take down.
[40:24.350 --> 40:24.990]  Now, this one...
[40:24.990 --> 40:25.730]  This one is really hard.
[40:26.610 --> 40:26.970]  Um...
[40:26.970 --> 40:28.010]  Once again, don't just call it out.
[40:28.110 --> 40:28.610]  Show of hands.
[40:29.430 --> 40:29.790]  Um...
[40:29.790 --> 40:35.490]  One of the actors in Hackers, um, later had a very unconvincing turn as a tough guy in a Melanie Griffith movie.
[40:36.510 --> 40:37.510]  Can anyone name him?
[40:37.930 --> 40:38.290]  Wait, wait.
[40:38.450 --> 40:39.830]  That wasn't a Melanie Griffith movie.
[40:41.470 --> 40:41.850]  That one?
[40:42.730 --> 40:43.290]  No, no, no.
[40:43.290 --> 40:43.670]  No, no, no.
[40:43.730 --> 40:45.050]  That was not a Melanie...
[40:45.050 --> 40:45.890]  No, that was not a Melanie...
[40:45.890 --> 40:46.830]  That's an easy question.
[40:46.830 --> 40:47.830]  Michelle Pfeiffer.
[40:48.190 --> 40:48.750]  They're interchangeable.
[40:48.830 --> 40:49.290]  That's an easy question.
[40:49.490 --> 40:49.610]  Okay.
[40:49.770 --> 40:50.570]  Michelle Pfeiffer movie.
[40:50.670 --> 40:52.790]  He was in a Michelle Pfeiffer movie in which he played a tough guy.
[40:53.270 --> 40:53.570]  Yes.
[40:55.030 --> 40:55.390]  No.
[40:55.590 --> 40:57.330]  I'm asking for the actor...
[40:57.330 --> 40:58.150]  Who is in...
[40:58.150 --> 40:59.090]  Yes, with the power glove.
[40:59.230 --> 40:59.770]  Which I love.
[41:00.870 --> 41:01.230]  Nope.
[41:01.430 --> 41:01.530]  No.
[41:06.400 --> 41:06.760]  Um...
[41:06.760 --> 41:07.280]  No, I'm sorry.
[41:07.320 --> 41:07.760]  It was not.
[41:09.280 --> 41:11.480]  It was not Ricky Schroeder, but that's kind of close.
[41:12.760 --> 41:13.040]  Yes.
[41:13.160 --> 41:13.500]  She got it.
[41:13.860 --> 41:14.000]  Yes.
[41:14.640 --> 41:16.860]  Renoly Santiago wins you a shirt.
[41:17.080 --> 41:19.240]  And that's probably the best function he'll ever serve.
[41:19.240 --> 41:20.240]  Ever again in life.
[41:20.540 --> 41:20.620]  Yes.
[41:20.620 --> 41:20.900]  No, no.
[41:21.020 --> 41:21.760]  He was in Con Air.
[41:21.880 --> 41:22.560]  Did you ever see that flick?
[41:23.000 --> 41:23.120]  Yeah.
[41:23.420 --> 41:23.820]  Yeah.
[41:24.400 --> 41:25.200]  So was Vosami.
[41:25.200 --> 41:26.520]  He was the gay chick...
[41:26.520 --> 41:28.020]  Or the gay dude with the...
[41:28.020 --> 41:28.740]  With the...
[41:28.740 --> 41:29.680]  He looked like a chick.
[41:29.920 --> 41:30.800]  With the M16.
[41:30.800 --> 41:33.440]  And I think we actually have...
[41:33.440 --> 41:35.080]  This man is multi-talented.
[41:35.240 --> 41:36.940]  He can actually do an impression of Renoly Santiago.
[41:38.020 --> 41:38.460]  Come on.
[41:39.460 --> 41:40.200]  Come on.
[41:42.600 --> 41:43.060]  Okay.
[41:43.500 --> 41:44.660]  For this piece...
[41:44.660 --> 41:45.260]  Wait.
[41:45.780 --> 41:46.240]  Do we need to...
[41:46.240 --> 41:49.600]  My good friend Leo here will be playing the part of Joey, the neophyte hacker.
[41:49.920 --> 41:50.120]  Okay.
[41:50.120 --> 41:53.000]  And you will be the phantom freak, the king of 9X.
[41:53.240 --> 41:53.600]  Awesome.
[41:53.780 --> 41:54.420]  And scene.
[41:55.420 --> 41:56.560]  Well, my script...
[41:57.000 --> 41:59.140]  Well, I don't remember the script that well, but...
[41:59.140 --> 41:59.260]  Let's go.
[41:59.340 --> 41:59.860]  Let's go.
[42:00.340 --> 42:00.520]  Let's go.
[42:02.300 --> 42:04.380]  One more dude out of you, I'll smack the shit out of you.
[42:04.560 --> 42:05.060]  I tried to...
[42:05.060 --> 42:05.720]  I told you...
[42:05.720 --> 42:08.440]  That's why your mom addressed you, but I tried to save you from herself.
[42:09.160 --> 42:10.900]  And you got me nervous for all these people up here.
[42:10.900 --> 42:12.520]  I'm sorry, it must be the green shirt.
[42:12.580 --> 42:13.480]  It makes people excited.
[42:14.080 --> 42:14.160]  Yeah.
[42:14.600 --> 42:14.760]  Okay.
[42:15.060 --> 42:15.480]  Should we play...
[42:15.480 --> 42:16.540]  I think we should play some other stuff.
[42:17.080 --> 42:17.940]  I think we could...
[42:17.940 --> 42:18.820]  Yes, to change the subject.
[42:18.820 --> 42:19.520]  I think we could go for some...
[42:19.520 --> 42:20.340]  From the Hackers movie.
[42:20.520 --> 42:20.680]  Yeah.
[42:20.880 --> 42:21.560]  Which we are now doing.
[42:22.660 --> 42:23.180]  With a PLA.
[42:23.180 --> 42:24.180]  Just because we gotta waste time.
[42:24.740 --> 42:24.920]  Yes.
[42:25.020 --> 42:25.500]  Not CDC.
[42:27.160 --> 42:29.140]  We have one other thing, which...
[42:29.140 --> 42:30.220]  Oh, yes.
[42:30.580 --> 42:30.860]  Okay.
[42:31.240 --> 42:32.780]  This is an official product.
[42:33.300 --> 42:42.640]  No matter what it may look like, it's an official PLA sticker that, purely by coincidence, resembles the Cult of the Dead Cow sticker with red marker all over it.
[42:45.870 --> 42:48.730]  We were so embarrassed when we saw the CDC stickers.
[42:49.210 --> 42:53.130]  And, you know, so we only have one of these, which is actually two of these.
[42:54.350 --> 42:55.070]  But, um...
[42:55.070 --> 42:56.170]  First one who raised their hand gets it.
[42:57.110 --> 42:57.450]  Wow.
[42:57.690 --> 42:59.130]  Right there in the No Alien shirt.
[42:59.890 --> 43:01.490]  No, he won the t-shirt.
[43:01.890 --> 43:02.250]  Okay.
[43:02.430 --> 43:04.030]  So right there next to the guy with the No Alien shirt.
[43:05.490 --> 43:07.670]  He'll just give it to the kid with the No Alien shirt.
[43:07.670 --> 43:08.790]  Use the phrase, oh my god, uh...
[43:09.190 --> 43:09.450]  What?
[43:09.750 --> 43:10.230]  Oh my god, hi.
[43:10.510 --> 43:11.070]  There you are.
[43:11.230 --> 43:11.770]  Use it well.
[43:11.990 --> 43:12.950]  Let's first do Q&A.
[43:13.050 --> 43:14.010]  We'll mention that last.
[43:14.570 --> 43:15.490]  Imagine our disappointment.
[43:15.770 --> 43:17.070]  Uh, do you want to do the Q&A?
[43:17.790 --> 43:18.490]  Q&A.
[43:18.690 --> 43:18.910]  Yeah.
[43:19.170 --> 43:19.510]  Cactus.
[43:19.770 --> 43:19.970]  Okay.
[43:20.230 --> 43:22.650]  If anybody gets up and says cactus, I swear to god.
[43:22.910 --> 43:23.990]  We'll love you forever.
[43:24.510 --> 43:24.670]  Yeah.
[43:24.890 --> 43:25.730]  We'll love you forever.
[43:25.910 --> 43:26.610]  No CD for you.
[43:27.330 --> 43:32.730]  And, um, if anyone wants us to explain cactus and everything behind cactus, well, I'm sorry, we won't.
[43:32.990 --> 43:33.130]  Yeah.
[43:33.230 --> 43:34.210]  So, questions and answers.
[43:36.090 --> 43:38.350]  We have a guy with a mic over here.
[43:38.550 --> 43:40.970]  So, ready to run at the first sign of question.
[43:42.170 --> 43:45.050]  For anything PLA related or anything non-PLA related.
[43:45.390 --> 43:47.290]  If you just need advice on something in your life.
[43:48.290 --> 43:49.410]  We are so good.
[43:49.690 --> 43:49.870]  Yes.
[43:50.550 --> 43:56.070]  You seem to get a lot of, like, really formulaic responses when you're harassing people via telephone.
[43:56.070 --> 43:59.710]  Just, like, people informing you that what you're doing is illegal.
[43:59.710 --> 44:04.430]  And people, uh, mocking you and saying that you're acting like you're a child.
[44:04.830 --> 44:08.590]  Are there any other standard formula responses that you particularly like?
[44:08.590 --> 44:09.050]  Yeah.
[44:09.250 --> 44:10.530]  We get a lot of fuck you's.
[44:12.070 --> 44:14.690]  Also, a very common one is we're tracing this call.
[44:14.950 --> 44:15.370]  Yeah.
[44:15.470 --> 44:15.770]  Oh, yeah.
[44:15.770 --> 44:16.790]  We're tracing this call.
[44:17.070 --> 44:18.850]  Um, I have caller ID.
[44:19.330 --> 44:20.150]  I work for the FBI.
[44:20.790 --> 44:22.430]  Like that, like that fucking matters anymore.
[44:23.130 --> 44:23.490]  Yeah.
[44:25.530 --> 44:27.390]  A lot of formulaic responses, but...
[44:27.390 --> 44:28.070]  Formulaic responses.
[44:28.310 --> 44:28.710]  But...
[44:28.710 --> 44:29.470]  We tend not to argue the point, really.
[44:29.470 --> 44:33.190]  No, with the incoming calls, we get a lot of candid responses, though.
[44:33.530 --> 44:35.170]  You'll find all of those on the media CD.
[44:35.390 --> 44:35.950]  On the CD.
[44:36.150 --> 44:37.250]  Which is completely free.
[44:37.430 --> 44:39.430]  But, uh, if you'd like to give us money anyway.
[44:39.990 --> 44:40.350]  It's...
[44:40.350 --> 44:41.130]  Censorship?
[44:41.310 --> 44:42.010]  No, that's bad.
[44:42.350 --> 44:43.410]  It was censored over here.
[44:43.410 --> 44:44.810]  That was just the names, so...
[44:44.810 --> 44:46.630]  Yeah, that was the names of the theaters and...
[44:46.850 --> 44:46.990]  Yeah.
[44:47.510 --> 44:47.910]  Businesses.
[44:48.230 --> 44:49.070]  To protect the guilty.
[44:50.110 --> 44:51.110]  Very, very guilty.
[44:51.510 --> 44:54.190]  Are there any other questions on any subject whatsoever?
[44:55.210 --> 44:56.710]  Yes, in the red shirt here.
[44:59.230 --> 45:00.650]  Where is Logic Box?
[45:00.950 --> 45:02.250]  We love Logic Box.
[45:02.430 --> 45:03.230]  We miss Logic Box.
[45:03.230 --> 45:04.690]  We wish we could hear from Logic Box.
[45:04.910 --> 45:05.290]  Actually, no.
[45:05.430 --> 45:06.150]  Hold on, hold on.
[45:06.370 --> 45:06.510]  Yes.
[45:06.690 --> 45:08.310]  Logic Box got kidnapped by Tanist.
[45:08.750 --> 45:08.930]  Oh.
[45:09.170 --> 45:09.330]  Yeah.
[45:09.490 --> 45:10.470]  Back in, uh, 2000.
[45:10.770 --> 45:12.870]  And as far as we know, still locked up in our basement.
[45:13.150 --> 45:18.670]  The last we saw of Logic Box, actually, he, um, he was at Def Con and he had a photo taken with, um, Carolyn Meinel.
[45:18.970 --> 45:20.850]  And we really don't know what happened to him after that.
[45:20.850 --> 45:21.350]  Do we have those clips?
[45:21.430 --> 45:23.350]  Wait, wasn't that Def Con 8?
[45:23.990 --> 45:24.490]  One of them.
[45:24.550 --> 45:25.290]  That was like...
[45:25.290 --> 45:25.950]  That was like...
[45:25.950 --> 45:26.790]  That was like four years ago.
[45:26.890 --> 45:27.090]  Def Con something.
[45:27.090 --> 45:27.370]  Def Con N.
[45:27.570 --> 45:27.810]  I don't know.
[45:28.230 --> 45:29.010]  Do we have the kind of...
[45:29.010 --> 45:31.790]  But, uh, yes, we miss, we miss system failure and everyone involved.
[45:32.010 --> 45:37.750]  So, uh, if any of you ever hear this ever, you know, Logic Box, Pinguino, any of you guys, we love you and we miss you.
[45:38.310 --> 45:38.330]  Oh.
[45:38.330 --> 45:39.070]  And come back home.
[45:39.390 --> 45:39.570]  Yes.
[45:39.690 --> 45:40.350]  The children miss you.
[45:40.370 --> 45:41.630]  Come back to the PLA.
[45:41.630 --> 45:41.650]  Okay.
[45:41.950 --> 45:42.070]  Yes.
[45:42.770 --> 45:43.650]  Any other questions?
[45:44.470 --> 45:45.350]  Any other answers?
[45:46.250 --> 45:46.670]  Oh.
[45:46.670 --> 45:46.950]  Yes, sir.
[45:47.610 --> 45:48.030]  Actually...
[45:50.360 --> 45:51.200]  Grab that mic.
[45:51.440 --> 45:53.120]  I'll ask you a real question here.
[45:53.360 --> 45:53.700]  Uh-oh.
[45:53.740 --> 45:54.660]  We're not prepared for that.
[45:54.740 --> 45:54.920]  I'm sorry.
[45:55.040 --> 45:56.820]  We don't do real questions.
[45:57.020 --> 45:59.160]  That's what the next panel is for.
[45:59.240 --> 45:59.600]  Action.
[45:59.600 --> 46:08.400]  This past week there was a hack that came out for VoIP and caller ID.
[46:08.740 --> 46:08.820]  Oh.
[46:09.280 --> 46:10.140]  I've heard about this.
[46:10.380 --> 46:10.560]  Yeah.
[46:10.760 --> 46:12.060]  Is it the Vonage one?
[46:12.640 --> 46:13.240]  I think so.
[46:13.480 --> 46:14.040]  I don't know.
[46:14.100 --> 46:15.360]  I really didn't look too much at it.
[46:15.560 --> 46:16.120]  That was...
[46:16.120 --> 46:21.880]  Basically what that was, was that was a hack regarding spoofing caller ID through voice over IP protocols.
[46:22.140 --> 46:27.300]  And how they went about doing that was subscribing to a voice over IP network and...
[46:27.300 --> 46:28.160]  Closer to the mic.
[46:28.160 --> 46:29.920]  Much closer to the mic.
[46:30.080 --> 46:31.860]  Just put the mic closer to you instead of moving closer.
[46:31.860 --> 46:32.040]  Love the mic.
[46:32.220 --> 46:32.900]  In your mouth.
[46:35.680 --> 46:36.600]  He's great at parties.
[46:37.020 --> 46:37.220]  Yes.
[46:38.460 --> 46:42.100]  Basically what they did was they subscribed to a voice over IP service.
[46:42.660 --> 46:44.520]  And on the back end had a box set up.
[46:44.640 --> 46:50.280]  There's a Linux distro actually program that you can run called Asterix which mimics a PBX on your box.
[46:50.500 --> 46:55.240]  Using that and some complicated V XML scripting you can actually program your caller ID into that.
[46:55.240 --> 46:58.380]  Have it dialed out through the voice over IP protocol and spoof caller ID.
[46:59.600 --> 46:59.920]  Really?
[47:00.440 --> 47:01.120]  Yeah, really.
[47:01.340 --> 47:01.600]  Cool.
[47:01.860 --> 47:02.120]  Really.
[47:02.580 --> 47:06.720]  Well, if you're going to DEFCON, Lucky 225, Rigel 5, and...
[47:06.720 --> 47:07.360]  Strong Carlson.
[47:07.540 --> 47:09.620]  Strong Carlson are doing a talk on that.
[47:10.100 --> 47:10.400]  Yes.
[47:10.400 --> 47:13.220]  And they're also good friends of all things PLA.
[47:13.440 --> 47:14.200]  Well, not Lucky.
[47:14.320 --> 47:15.080]  Lucky hates us.
[47:15.320 --> 47:15.860]  Well, yes.
[47:15.940 --> 47:17.120]  But that doesn't mean he's not our friend.
[47:17.500 --> 47:18.240]  But we don't hate Lucky.
[47:18.240 --> 47:19.340]  I hate most of my friends.
[47:19.540 --> 47:19.900]  Ask them.
[47:20.220 --> 47:20.300]  Yeah.
[47:20.980 --> 47:21.380]  What?
[47:21.940 --> 47:24.020]  You're the only PLA groupies here though.
[47:25.280 --> 47:25.680]  As...
[47:25.680 --> 47:26.200]  Roadies.
[47:26.200 --> 47:26.720]  PLA groupies.
[47:26.800 --> 47:27.620]  We get groupies?
[47:28.060 --> 47:29.080]  That's what Tron says.
[47:29.320 --> 47:29.920]  We get the leftovers.
[47:32.080 --> 47:33.700]  Should we give out the voice bridge number?
[47:33.880 --> 47:35.040]  Or actually, we should give out the website.
[47:35.300 --> 47:39.000]  Yes, we should give out the website which is www.phonelosers.org.
[47:39.120 --> 47:39.380]  As if they give out.
[47:39.380 --> 47:42.100]  As most of this content up for free download.
[47:42.480 --> 47:46.220]  And if you're too lazy for a free download, here's a free CD with most of that stuff on it already.
[47:46.760 --> 47:56.700]  There are also our wonderful high traffic forums, which you can find at cal.phonelosers.org.
[47:56.920 --> 48:00.480]  And that's about, I think...
[48:00.480 --> 48:00.860]  The voice bridge?
[48:01.420 --> 48:02.520]  No, no, the voice bridge.
[48:02.560 --> 48:03.180]  We still have 10 minutes.
[48:03.320 --> 48:04.040]  No real voice bridge.
[48:04.180 --> 48:04.800]  More impressions.
[48:05.220 --> 48:05.700]  More impressions.
[48:06.660 --> 48:06.760]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[48:07.100 --> 48:09.180]  Let's play some pranks.
[48:09.640 --> 48:10.580]  We can play a couple more pranks.
[48:10.580 --> 48:11.600]  My battery just died.
[48:11.820 --> 48:12.420]  Your battery died?
[48:12.420 --> 48:13.200]  My battery died.
[48:13.320 --> 48:13.820]  Are you serious?
[48:14.000 --> 48:14.220]  Yeah.
[48:14.220 --> 48:14.800]  That's it.
[48:14.880 --> 48:15.180]  You're fired.
[48:16.360 --> 48:17.480]  You didn't bring an adapter?
[48:18.120 --> 48:18.860]  I'm leaving.
[48:19.700 --> 48:20.560]  I'm shot.
[48:21.360 --> 48:24.240]  Okay, let's read articles from the new issue of 2600.
[48:24.480 --> 48:24.680]  Yes.
[48:25.300 --> 48:25.860]  No, no, no, no.
[48:25.920 --> 48:26.700]  Binary Revolution.
[48:26.720 --> 48:27.420]  They like us.
[48:27.700 --> 48:28.360]  Oh, yeah, that's true.
[48:28.920 --> 48:35.720]  You can find most of us in accounts or also Binary Revolution forums, www.binrev.com.
[48:35.840 --> 48:36.500]  Slash forums.
[48:36.680 --> 48:37.380]  Slash forums.
[48:37.380 --> 48:39.120]  I mean, you can just click on the link.
[48:41.520 --> 48:42.280]  Oh, just so you know...
[48:42.280 --> 48:42.780]  Wait, wait, wait.
[48:42.840 --> 48:45.620]  Is this just like the law fold out in Teen Beat?
[48:47.940 --> 48:50.600]  Just so you know, a little trivia fact.
[48:50.880 --> 48:56.160]  On the latest to issues of 2600, if you hold it up, the light and the glare, they have words over here.
[48:56.160 --> 49:04.560]  This one says obey, and the issue with the army guy carrying a blue box on the cover, that says on his helmet, it says honor.
[49:05.060 --> 49:06.080]  But you can barely see him.
[49:06.140 --> 49:09.240]  You got to hold him up so the light layers off the cover.
[49:10.680 --> 49:12.060]  It's sort of like a hologram.
[49:12.120 --> 49:14.340]  I mention it for a reason, because Emmanuel has a...
[49:14.740 --> 49:21.060]  He does trivia questions at the end of the closing ceremony to the hope ceremonies.
[49:21.320 --> 49:25.380]  So I'm betting that he's going to ask about it, because nobody mentioned it in the New Letters forums.
[49:25.960 --> 49:26.640]  Remember this all.
[49:26.740 --> 49:27.580]  You'll be tested on this later.
[49:27.900 --> 49:28.000]  Yes.
[49:28.640 --> 49:33.260]  So you better be taking notes, and we know where all of you live.
[49:33.420 --> 49:36.820]  And I know that you all missed a really great panel over in A, too.
[49:37.000 --> 49:37.240]  Yeah.
[49:37.320 --> 49:39.020]  You guys missed Pirate Radio for this.
[49:39.280 --> 49:39.420]  Yeah.
[49:39.900 --> 49:45.960]  Our great friend, Jen, who is also the designer of the artwork for this, is running a wonderful panel on Pirate Radio.
[49:46.060 --> 49:47.080]  You all missed it to come here.
[49:47.200 --> 49:49.620]  So I think you all deserve a big round of applause for that.
[49:51.480 --> 49:52.280]  Thank you.
[49:52.280 --> 49:53.460]  And now, karaoke.
[49:53.460 --> 49:56.400]  Yes, we have one more question, I believe.
[49:59.340 --> 50:00.420]  Are you guys leaving?
[50:01.560 --> 50:02.640]  Lock the doors quickly.
[50:03.080 --> 50:03.740]  Look, lock the doors.
[50:03.880 --> 50:04.980]  When you come back, bring pie.
[50:05.500 --> 50:10.460]  Do you guys usually train for the client calls, or like the videos, or anything like beforehand?
[50:11.480 --> 50:11.880]  I'm sorry?
[50:12.060 --> 50:13.360]  Do you guys train beforehand?
[50:14.060 --> 50:14.820]  Quick, run!
[50:15.080 --> 50:16.260]  Run to the CDs!
[50:16.700 --> 50:17.300]  Get the CDs!
[50:17.920 --> 50:18.740]  There's free shit!
[50:18.860 --> 50:19.280]  Go!
[50:19.780 --> 50:20.060]  Go!
[50:20.060 --> 50:20.320]  Whoa!
[50:20.360 --> 50:21.100]  I can't...
[50:21.100 --> 50:21.960]  Whoa!
[50:22.700 --> 50:24.260]  Plenty of CDs to go around.
[50:24.480 --> 50:25.460]  Plenty of CDs.
[50:25.860 --> 50:27.120]  It's a flash mob.
[50:29.020 --> 50:29.420]  Okay.
[50:29.960 --> 50:31.480]  They're the CDs like Ninja Stars.
[50:32.640 --> 50:33.540]  Everyone, open your mouth.
[50:33.700 --> 50:34.300]  Open your mouth!
[50:35.740 --> 50:36.000]  Okay.
[50:36.360 --> 50:36.640]  Hello!
[50:37.200 --> 50:38.260]  Who wants the PLA DVD?
[50:39.800 --> 50:41.460]  Split them up among whoever's near you.
[50:41.660 --> 50:43.600]  Does anybody want the PLA DVD, or can I give it out?
[50:47.240 --> 50:49.180]  One of them for our great friend, iconoclast.
[50:49.680 --> 50:51.480]  Christianhacker.org, I think is still good.
[50:51.520 --> 50:52.000]  Thank you.
[50:52.280 --> 50:52.480]  Yes.
[50:53.220 --> 50:53.860]  Give me CDs.
[50:54.160 --> 50:54.500]  Give me CDs.
[50:56.140 --> 50:57.780]  What they don't know is that these are all blank.
[50:59.020 --> 50:59.800]  And the video...