[00:09.670 --> 00:12.070]  We can joke about the police line-up behind us.
[00:12.230 --> 00:12.570]  There we are.
[00:18.810 --> 00:20.690]  Turn all the damn mics on, thank you.
[00:22.090 --> 00:26.290]  I just want to say we have many, many giveaways, so if that's what you're staying for.
[00:28.930 --> 00:29.990]  Not many, a few.
[00:32.010 --> 00:33.210]  This looks like many to me.
[00:33.230 --> 00:35.690]  We almost have the feedback problem solved, all right?
[00:35.770 --> 00:35.970]  Almost.
[00:36.750 --> 00:42.090]  We're going to take a little time to thank the many, many people that were involved.
[00:42.390 --> 00:45.250]  And on the stage here are some of the core group.
[00:45.870 --> 00:55.150]  And what you don't necessarily realize when we have a three-day conference is that we've been planning this for at least six months.
[00:55.610 --> 00:59.230]  And a lot of work went into it, a lot of effort by many, many people.
[00:59.430 --> 01:11.650]  And even at the conference, essentially any time I was looking for someone for help with something, and during the setup, and I hope also during the takedown, hint, hint, we'll be able to turn to someone and say, excuse me, could you help a second?
[01:11.810 --> 01:15.490]  And people at the hacker conferences are always extremely willing to help.
[01:15.730 --> 01:24.730]  So we want to say thank you to everyone who attended, and we also want to give recognition to the people that helped to set things up, and this is some of the group up here.
[01:25.510 --> 01:26.450]  Yeah, you guys rock.
[01:37.060 --> 01:43.400]  I just want to say our jobs were made so much easier by the attendees who helped us out every step of the way.
[01:43.640 --> 01:55.520]  I mean, there's a lot of work involved, and we had 50,000 square feet to deal with, you know, middle of Manhattan, street level, all kinds of things could have happened, and we made it work really, really well.
[01:55.700 --> 02:04.520]  And the panels were great, people were interesting on the various topics that they discussed, and the crowds, everybody commented on how great the crowds were, how interested they were in things.
[02:04.740 --> 02:13.380]  I just want to say that's something that I think, I think the HOPE Conferences have had a good history with that kind of a thing, and that's why I hope we were able to continue.
[02:13.760 --> 02:15.600]  And our plan is to do this again in two years.
[02:23.020 --> 02:28.120]  It'll be the tenth anniversary of the HOPE Conferences, because the first one was 1994.
[02:28.480 --> 02:31.680]  It'll also be the twentieth anniversary of 2600 Magazine, if you can believe that.
[02:32.620 --> 02:32.960]  So...
[02:35.380 --> 02:36.240]  I sure don't.
[02:38.300 --> 02:39.880]  And we're looking for a clever name.
[02:40.680 --> 02:42.580]  It's not going to be H2K4, I'll tell you that.
[02:42.700 --> 02:44.120]  It's going to be... we've got to come up with a better name.
[02:44.320 --> 02:45.620]  Just a more unique name.
[02:45.740 --> 02:47.360]  So, we're open to suggestion.
[02:49.780 --> 02:56.540]  Bernie's here, and Bernie's voice is completely shot as a result of all the talking he's been doing this weekend, and I think that's why he should be the emcee tonight.
[02:57.120 --> 02:57.820]  Thanks a lot.
[02:57.900 --> 02:59.860]  Just to, like, kind of personify it all.
[03:08.760 --> 03:12.520]  Well, thank you, Emmanuel, for stressing my vocal chords even more.
[03:13.900 --> 03:14.960]  This has been phenomenal.
[03:15.500 --> 03:18.860]  Every time we do one of these, we think this is...
[03:18.860 --> 03:20.100]  it can't get any better than this.
[03:20.300 --> 03:23.500]  But, well, I think we probably thought that beyond hope, we thought that could have gone a little bit better.
[03:25.320 --> 03:28.190]  But, anyway, this exceeded my expectations.
[03:28.190 --> 03:29.770]  I hope it exceeded yours.
[03:30.910 --> 03:33.730]  And we had... we had a great crowd.
[03:34.070 --> 03:35.830]  And I'm glad a lot of them are still here.
[03:36.950 --> 03:43.890]  We've got to thank some of the... we've got to thank all of you folks, but we've got to thank some of the core organizers here, many of whom are not here.
[03:44.050 --> 03:45.310]  They had to leave for various reasons.
[03:45.310 --> 03:51.290]  But the few who were able to remain are Cheshire.
[03:58.050 --> 03:59.470]  And Cheshire, can you pick up a mic?
[03:59.670 --> 04:00.890]  I don't know if there's one working over there.
[04:00.970 --> 04:06.110]  I just want you to talk briefly about what, you know, how you helped make this happen.
[04:06.250 --> 04:13.590]  Some of the... a couple of... maybe an anecdote or two of things that were just... that just worked out just through... through...
[04:13.590 --> 04:15.230]  just good fortune to make this happen.
[04:15.490 --> 04:20.610]  Well, mostly, we had an email list with people on it that really did the job.
[04:21.250 --> 04:24.130]  I live in Florida, so I couldn't help out until I got here.
[04:24.350 --> 04:26.410]  So I was going to be on registration.
[04:26.410 --> 04:30.190]  I knew that from the get-go because it was something I could do once I got here.
[04:31.570 --> 04:39.070]  Other people, like Carrie, she handled the web and kept that going and updated and did a smashing job on that.
[04:39.070 --> 04:41.610]  And for those of you who went to h2k2.net.
[04:45.830 --> 04:50.610]  And Carrie... Carrie also did a phenomenal job managing the volunteers here.
[04:50.750 --> 04:54.930]  We had... we had, you know, scores of volunteers, the folks running around in the blue shirts.
[04:55.690 --> 04:57.390]  A couple of you might want to raise your hands.
[04:57.390 --> 04:58.490]  You have blue shirts on.
[04:58.690 --> 04:59.170]  We're volunteers.
[05:03.860 --> 05:11.300]  And it would have been sheer chaos without Carrie's coordination, and she just really got on things immediately when they needed to be taken care of.
[05:11.460 --> 05:13.360]  So I've got to thank you, Carrie.
[05:13.480 --> 05:14.000]  You did a great job.
[05:18.290 --> 05:27.570]  For post-convention hyperlinks, I usually take care of a page of post-convention hyperlinks, but I never have access to the convention website.
[05:27.850 --> 05:35.710]  I put them at cheshirecatalyst.com where there will be a link to slash h2k2 slash h2k2 dot html.
[05:35.950 --> 05:40.570]  I don't like to have an index.html in that directory so people can explore it.
[05:40.750 --> 05:46.830]  Maybe get the idea of exploring other directories on other websites that way, such as images directory.
[05:47.050 --> 05:48.830]  A lot of them don't have index.html.
[05:49.010 --> 05:53.550]  Start getting the clues of how this stuff works and maybe go on and apply it to other websites.
[05:53.790 --> 06:15.110]  If you find hyperlinks to h2k2, newspaper or magazine articles that are on the web, please email cheshire, cheshire at 2600.com and email me the hyperlink and I will put it on the h2k2.html page so that we will have the record of who did articles on the conference.
[06:15.470 --> 06:15.730]  Thank you.
[06:23.380 --> 06:30.460]  Porkchop was responsible for your getting in here, frankly, because he managed registration, which I've got to say was managed very well.
[06:30.700 --> 06:36.300]  And we had thousands of badges to distribute and to complicate things.
[06:36.300 --> 06:41.340]  We had five different kinds of badges, which we'll probably go into later about how that was arrived at.
[06:41.780 --> 06:48.500]  But Cheshire, what nightmares did you have to overcome to make all that happen with registration?
[06:49.640 --> 06:55.840]  Well, we were concerned that there would be swamps with lots and lots and lots and lots of people all at once.
[06:56.000 --> 06:58.160]  So we made all sorts of lines for different things.
[06:58.820 --> 07:09.480]  We were getting ready to get all the pre-registered people in really quick and everyone either went really dispersed out or actually I think we handled everything really, really, really quickly.
[07:09.800 --> 07:11.220]  So we never got a line.
[07:11.360 --> 07:13.640]  I don't think anybody here spent more than 30 seconds waiting.
[07:19.340 --> 07:21.500]  How many of you were here in 1994?
[07:22.640 --> 07:23.200]  Oh, wow.
[07:23.360 --> 07:24.000]  That's pretty good.
[07:24.100 --> 07:25.380]  Do you remember registration then?
[07:26.300 --> 07:27.140]  That was something.
[07:27.260 --> 07:28.160]  That's the first time we did it.
[07:28.220 --> 07:29.080]  We didn't know what was going on.
[07:29.260 --> 07:33.180]  So, yeah, hands out to the registration folks for getting it done right this year.
[07:33.900 --> 07:37.020]  We've learned from our mistakes and every single time it's just going to get better.
[07:39.520 --> 07:42.280]  We learn something every time we do this registration thing.
[07:42.580 --> 07:44.680]  And, you know, it keeps improving.
[07:44.880 --> 07:47.340]  So we're never going back to the way it was the first conference.
[07:47.520 --> 07:48.740]  It'll keep getting better.
[07:48.960 --> 07:52.280]  Maybe we'll... we're never going to get around to mailing these badges out.
[07:52.280 --> 07:53.960]  But, I think it lost in mail, whatever.
[07:54.180 --> 07:57.760]  But, we stuck to a low-tech distribution system.
[07:57.920 --> 08:03.500]  We could have some, you know, where you could just come in and print a badge or have people looked up on a computer.
[08:03.680 --> 08:05.920]  Frankly, I don't think people here wanted their names in the computer.
[08:06.200 --> 08:08.600]  So, we did that for your privacy.
[08:15.060 --> 08:20.540]  I don't see Roadie up here, but I think we really need a big hand for security for really doing a great job this year.
[08:28.540 --> 08:30.620]  They kept the place running smoothly.
[08:30.620 --> 08:34.920]  They kept things secure, and they, you know, they basically were great.
[08:35.060 --> 08:35.480]  They were nice.
[08:35.680 --> 08:36.520]  They were human beings.
[08:36.640 --> 08:38.120]  They were part of us, which is what it's all about.
[08:38.860 --> 08:40.400]  We take care of ourselves.
[08:41.080 --> 08:42.640]  We don't need outside influences.
[08:43.220 --> 08:44.900]  We're, you know, we're a community.
[08:45.100 --> 08:47.240]  And I think they really personified that great.
[08:47.940 --> 08:49.760]  Adam is here from the network crew.
[08:50.080 --> 08:51.980]  Say a couple of words about how the network panned out.
[08:54.760 --> 08:55.160]  Thanks.
[08:56.840 --> 09:00.400]  Well, I wish the network were a little more smooth than it was.
[09:00.400 --> 09:03.320]  Or at least as smooth it was last year, minus the T1.
[09:03.420 --> 09:04.300]  The T1 worked great.
[09:04.500 --> 09:10.280]  But there were a couple of really bizarre logistical problems we had with, you know, certain VLANs just not working.
[09:11.440 --> 09:14.340]  Late last night, we got a bunch of those problems resolved.
[09:14.340 --> 09:20.800]  But I think next year, H2K4, we'll have it working a little bit better.
[09:21.480 --> 09:25.340]  Next year, we'll probably try to set up the equipment in advance to actually test it.
[09:25.420 --> 09:26.780]  That was probably the main problem.
[09:27.120 --> 09:32.280]  But, you know, as far as getting the network up and running, we really need to thank the other guys.
[09:32.620 --> 09:37.060]  Ken, Truman, Phil, especially Frank, and the guys who did all the cabling.
[09:37.060 --> 09:40.440]  And I don't see anybody from the public terminal cluster here.
[09:40.580 --> 09:44.140]  But those guys really kicked ass and had, like, a really amazing public terminal cluster.
[09:44.880 --> 09:47.760]  We didn't get enough time to really patch up the Spark.
[09:47.920 --> 09:49.560]  So somebody actually rooted the Spark.
[09:49.740 --> 09:56.220]  But as far as I know, nobody rooted my NetBSD or Spark that's running the web server and stuff.
[09:56.220 --> 09:57.740]  So I think that was pretty decent.
[09:58.760 --> 10:02.900]  But, you know, I think next year, we'll probably have things running a little more smoothly.
[10:03.020 --> 10:07.260]  So I apologize if people couldn't get on the wireless network or, you know, on the wired network.
[10:07.460 --> 10:09.340]  So, well, that's about it.
[10:09.780 --> 10:10.220]  Thanks.
[10:10.480 --> 10:11.020]  Thanks, Adam.
[10:11.160 --> 10:11.640]  Thanks, Adam.
[10:16.600 --> 10:27.400]  I'd like everybody to turn their attention over to the console over there where Chris has been working endlessly for four days on sound issues in three different rooms, four different rooms.
[10:34.310 --> 10:44.750]  It's probably the biggest challenge of running a conference just to keep the lights, keep the speakers, keep the microphones, keep everything working all at the same time, which is really unbelievable to me.
[10:45.490 --> 10:48.690]  So, again, thanks so much for volunteering and being part of that.
[10:49.890 --> 10:50.750]  Who are we leaving out?
[10:50.830 --> 10:51.770]  We're definitely leaving people out.
[10:51.990 --> 10:52.690]  I don't know.
[10:52.750 --> 11:02.010]  I can't remember how many times I sent Mr. Ohm off the left here over to Radio Shack at the last minute saying, you know, we've got to have this, you know, in ten minutes or less.
[11:02.210 --> 11:05.950]  And he would, you must have set some land speed records getting over there and back, Mr. Ohm.
[11:06.050 --> 11:08.710]  But thank you for that and all your other assistance.
[11:08.990 --> 11:14.150]  Also hosting the retrocomputing panel and setting up the whole retrocomputing neighborhood downstairs, which I thought was really cool.
[11:14.190 --> 11:17.030]  How many of you have a chance to check out the retrocomputing neighborhood downstairs?
[11:19.810 --> 11:22.470]  A lot of fun stuff.
[11:22.470 --> 11:27.550]  Actually, last night I was up until about three or four in the morning with Dragorn.
[11:27.650 --> 11:33.290]  We spent three hours fixing a 31-year-old videotape recorder.
[11:33.590 --> 11:39.110]  And we got it going and we found a movie on a reel-to-reel tape and we watched it.
[11:39.230 --> 11:42.050]  Some movie about a Russian spy or something.
[11:42.130 --> 11:43.870]  Anyhow, that was pretty amazing.
[11:44.010 --> 11:44.550]  We got the thing going.
[11:47.050 --> 11:55.470]  And AutoJack for his music downstairs for keeping us entertained on Friday night with some really good selections, I think.
[11:57.030 --> 11:57.770]  Oh, come on.
[11:57.850 --> 11:58.470]  You can do better than that.
[12:03.210 --> 12:08.150]  And Delchi for managing all the DJs that were playing and, of course, all the DJs who played as well.
[12:08.410 --> 12:09.890]  And it was pretty cool.
[12:13.660 --> 12:15.740]  And Rob, I think Rob wants to say a couple of things.
[12:15.740 --> 12:23.440]  Rob from Holland, who inspired us with Galactic Hacker Party and HEU and all those other great conferences, which I really suggest people get out to.
[12:23.520 --> 12:25.200]  Don't just go to the conferences here in the States.
[12:25.620 --> 12:29.200]  Next year, there's going to be something in Germany, which we'll be heavily involved in.
[12:30.280 --> 12:32.460]  In three years, there'll be another one in Holland.
[12:33.100 --> 12:36.700]  And those are the ones that really inspired us to put something together here in this country.
[12:36.800 --> 12:42.700]  And we saw how people got together, built a community, and really progressed, learned things, and got together.
[12:42.700 --> 12:46.120]  So I think we owe a big round of applause to Rob for making that possible.
[12:55.260 --> 13:04.500]  I've played a fairly modest role in helping out with whatever experience we could offer in terms of how you set up these things, or little things that might help.
[13:05.460 --> 13:10.600]  What we need to realize, and what I think a lot of people don't realize, is that it's a circle.
[13:10.600 --> 13:23.740]  It's a circle that goes from people organizing stuff, people coming, maybe waking up to some of these issues, or waking up to, hey, this is a fun community, and then going out and organizing stuff on their own, and realizing that some parts of that circle are really thin.
[13:25.340 --> 13:38.080]  In the end, it may turn out to one person, in this case Emmanuel, maxing out his credit cards, risking his mortgage payments, or whatever, trying to get this thing going, trying to keep it going.
[13:38.720 --> 13:52.320]  If you or a small group of your friends have the skill set it takes to set up events, and they don't have to be this magnitude, but if you can do things for this community, if you can set things up, if you can get people together, organize lectures, whatever,
[13:53.240 --> 13:54.360]  then by all means do.
[13:54.480 --> 13:55.520]  We need more organizers.
[13:55.740 --> 13:57.520]  We need people to get this community together.
[13:57.520 --> 14:02.860]  So if you possess these skills, organization, lack of business sense,
[14:05.900 --> 14:19.680]  just any of these important skills to get things like this going, just a complete ignorance of personal risks, just go for it, and do things like this.
[14:19.820 --> 14:20.800]  That's what I wanted to say.
[14:28.340 --> 14:33.740]  And here's Roadie, head of security, who really did that great job keeping everybody happy.
[14:33.940 --> 14:35.840]  And Roadie, thanks so much for all your efforts.
[14:37.280 --> 14:38.380]  Pretty much the whole time.
[14:42.530 --> 14:44.850]  How many people here had a good time?
[14:52.680 --> 14:53.600]  That's what counts.
[14:53.800 --> 14:56.100]  How many people had a really good time?
[15:02.380 --> 15:05.560]  You need to encourage these guys to do this again.
[15:05.560 --> 15:07.980]  We need to have another one of these parties.
[15:09.200 --> 15:18.280]  Hey, this year, I would like to tell you that the only pranks that have gone on, let's see, were maybe a couple of tagging incidents.
[15:18.520 --> 15:19.200]  Eh, nothing big.
[15:19.520 --> 15:24.100]  The letters from downstairs got stolen by a group who distracted the security team.
[15:24.300 --> 15:25.280]  That's one up on them.
[15:26.940 --> 15:29.120]  Yeah, we were owned by KISS.
[15:29.240 --> 15:31.760]  That was the only thing they could figure to spell out with the letters.
[15:34.830 --> 15:41.050]  Now, mind you, the security force did find the cam... you know, the tapes from the cameras in the...
[15:41.830 --> 15:46.250]  that were in the elevators, but that was like, I'd say, maybe about an hour ago.
[15:46.610 --> 15:47.170]  Lots of help.
[15:48.530 --> 15:50.130]  But other than that, it was great.
[15:50.290 --> 15:53.910]  We've gotten all the radios back this year, so we're real happy about that one.
[15:54.390 --> 15:56.690]  And nothing else so far as vandalism.
[15:56.870 --> 16:00.550]  Eh, maybe a couple of few lost items, eh, and a couple others disappeared.
[16:00.750 --> 16:02.710]  But other than that, it was a great conference.
[16:03.270 --> 16:04.590]  So, you want to do this again?
[16:12.020 --> 16:16.820]  Of course, we also have to thank the hotel, which I think really, they really went out of our way for...
[16:16.820 --> 16:18.140]  their way for us this time.
[16:18.700 --> 16:20.400]  Elevators actually worked, you know.
[16:24.000 --> 16:30.260]  So, when we organize these things, we get together with them, they're used to what a normal conference is.
[16:30.460 --> 16:35.040]  You know, okay, you'll be running from nine to five, and what, you want to run all night long?
[16:35.520 --> 16:36.320]  That's strange.
[16:36.760 --> 16:38.000]  But they worked with us.
[16:38.300 --> 16:41.300]  You know, we're not like any other conference this place has ever seen.
[16:41.820 --> 16:46.060]  And they accepted that, they accepted us, and they gave us the space we needed, literally.
[16:46.620 --> 16:48.200]  And it worked out great.
[16:48.400 --> 16:49.300]  It really worked out great.
[16:49.300 --> 16:52.800]  So, I think we owe the hotel a big round of applause, and I think this is the place to be.
[17:01.310 --> 17:05.810]  I also want to turn it over to somebody else who has been here tirelessly throughout the entire weekend.
[17:05.930 --> 17:11.410]  Greg Newby, who has been great, just making sure things run smoothly in all different areas.
[17:12.110 --> 17:13.690]  And Greg, thank you.
[17:18.380 --> 17:21.720]  Also, Greg was by far our best-dressed core volunteer.
[17:22.560 --> 17:28.120]  The funny thing is, I'm a professor in real life, and I think I'm a lousy manager.
[17:29.020 --> 17:47.420]  Somehow, I think that because people are so willing and helpful and really capable, what maybe is difficult to see is the astounding level of skill on this stage, and among the audience, of course, but among the people that helped to shape this.
[17:47.420 --> 17:56.480]  And to try to sort of keep things rolling and manage and basically help people to exercise their talents, as I think is what I think has been my role.
[17:57.120 --> 18:09.000]  And, you know, I can think of no more rewarding thing to do, certainly for however long it's been, 96 hours or so, plus the time before that.
[18:10.420 --> 18:11.860]  And the speakers...
[18:11.860 --> 18:12.940]  A couple of other hours.
[18:13.280 --> 18:15.460]  But listen, yeah, the speakers were...
[18:15.460 --> 18:17.060]  How many speakers did we end up having, Emmanuel?
[18:17.440 --> 18:18.040]  Seventy-something.
[18:18.960 --> 18:23.960]  We had well over seventy, because counting the third track, there were a lot of people in there doing things as well.
[18:24.220 --> 18:25.580]  And it was just amazing.
[18:25.840 --> 18:26.560]  Nobody canceled.
[18:26.820 --> 18:29.120]  You know, none of these holes in the schedule.
[18:29.280 --> 18:29.900]  Everybody showed up.
[18:29.960 --> 18:31.520]  Everybody did, I think, a really good job.
[18:31.600 --> 18:34.320]  I didn't hear of any panel where the person did a lousy job.
[18:34.320 --> 18:35.280]  And it was great.
[18:35.420 --> 18:41.020]  We were in communication with them for months beforehand, weeks, months beforehand, getting things together.
[18:41.380 --> 18:42.400]  And I think that flowed.
[18:42.440 --> 18:43.400]  I think it flowed really well.
[18:43.560 --> 18:47.260]  The only complaints I heard was that there was too much good stuff and it was happening at the same time.
[18:47.340 --> 18:48.140]  And you couldn't get to it all.
[18:48.460 --> 18:49.040]  Thank you.
[18:49.300 --> 18:49.640]  Thank you.
[18:52.660 --> 18:53.040]  And...
[18:54.840 --> 19:03.280]  I was just so happy to see so many people getting into Negativland, Jello, Aaron McGruder, people like that who are not really part of the hacker community, but appreciate it.
[19:03.280 --> 19:04.500]  And you guys appreciated them.
[19:04.580 --> 19:05.520]  And I think that's really cool.
[19:11.740 --> 19:19.340]  And Emmanuel deserves yet another just amazing recognition for managing the speakers.
[19:19.500 --> 19:26.760]  Because you truly can't imagine what it takes to coordinate 70 different people to come and speak on various topics.
[19:26.820 --> 19:29.580]  It's not just getting them to speak.
[19:29.680 --> 19:32.760]  You have to coordinate so different panels don't overlap.
[19:33.200 --> 19:36.220]  The scheduling that grid was just a logistical nightmare.
[19:36.220 --> 19:38.160]  And I wouldn't have wanted to take that job on.
[19:38.320 --> 19:45.640]  So, if you can imagine how much work that would have taken to manage contacting 70 different people, there's a lot more to it than you could ever imagine.
[19:45.860 --> 19:47.100]  So, kudos.
[20:03.810 --> 20:09.730]  Speaking of logistical nightmares, the infrastructure you see around you was set up in two, two and a half days.
[20:10.090 --> 20:11.510]  It was planned for much longer.
[20:11.510 --> 20:14.210]  It needs to go out of here in less than a day.
[20:14.830 --> 20:30.770]  So, if you maybe have already volunteered, or if you have volunteered only a little, or if you've slept enough the last couple of nights, and you can spend a few extra hours tonight helping carry stuff down, helping package things, throw trash out.
[20:31.570 --> 20:34.050]  By all means, this is your chance to really make a difference.
[20:34.310 --> 20:41.790]  This is what makes us a community is if we also clean these places up and not leave a small group of people with all the stuff to clean out.
[20:42.130 --> 20:43.490]  So, please help out if you can.
[20:51.240 --> 20:54.760]  We couldn't not make fun of this.
[20:57.400 --> 21:06.700]  This was just too good a joke to not regurgitate here at H2K2, the Homeland Security Advisory System.
[21:06.800 --> 21:16.760]  I mean, I couldn't think of a more confusing risk... elevated... more confusing risk assessment strategy.
[21:16.760 --> 21:26.660]  But in any case, we configured our badges to somewhat follow this crazy scheme of risk of terrorist attacks.
[21:26.840 --> 21:29.740]  From severe, high, elevated, guarded, and down to low.
[21:29.820 --> 21:35.320]  I don't want anybody to feel offended, as a general attendee, that there are low risk of terrorist attacks.
[21:35.440 --> 21:39.440]  In fact, I would prefer to personally be of low risk of terrorist attack.
[21:39.700 --> 21:44.460]  So, if they're going to attack anybody, I hope they don't attack you folks.
[21:44.460 --> 21:50.820]  So, anyhow, we argued for weeks on how we were going to... what threat risk levels we were going to assign to what badge.
[21:50.920 --> 21:52.920]  And basically, we just kind of flipped a coin at the end.
[21:53.800 --> 21:57.400]  So, if you look at your badge, also, there's a couple of things I wanted to point out to you.
[21:58.900 --> 22:03.300]  The mag stripe on the back was deliberately chosen to be usable.
[22:03.520 --> 22:06.300]  And we probably should have publicized this, but we wanted people to kind of figure it out.
[22:06.780 --> 22:09.280]  usable as your hotel key card.
[22:09.560 --> 22:13.500]  It's the same type of three-track stripe, same level of coercivity.
[22:14.020 --> 22:20.420]  And on your way... if you still have a room and you haven't checked out yet, you can go down to the front desk and have them encode it.
[22:20.620 --> 22:22.400]  And you've got to social engineer them, of course.
[22:22.540 --> 22:24.200]  But make sure they insert it the right way.
[22:24.500 --> 22:30.660]  But I saw several people use their H2K2 badges as their key card, and we thought that was kind of neat.
[22:30.660 --> 22:32.520]  There's also a chip on this card.
[22:33.400 --> 22:35.340]  You can figure out what that's for yourself.
[22:35.600 --> 22:39.860]  That's sort of something you can just try to figure what purpose that might have.
[22:40.340 --> 22:44.040]  And we owe a thanks to Ed.
[22:44.220 --> 22:48.060]  I don't remember Ed's last name, our artist in Seattle, who was on our design team.
[22:48.420 --> 22:51.540]  Laszlo, Emmanuel, myself, and Ed came up with these designs.
[22:51.840 --> 22:55.120]  And the front of it, using the brain, we just thought that was appropriate.
[22:55.120 --> 22:57.720]  Originally, it was going to be a chip inside the brain, like a chip implant.
[22:57.720 --> 23:04.100]  But we thought this kind of looked better, like this chip linked to the brain, information, access in the brain, that sort of thing.
[23:04.320 --> 23:08.680]  Also, in the front of the badge, there is a hidden message, which you're not going to be able to...
[23:08.680 --> 23:09.580]  It's not human readable.
[23:09.800 --> 23:11.000]  It's a barcode message.
[23:11.300 --> 23:15.420]  So you folks with access to barcode readers should try to decode that.
[23:15.660 --> 23:18.000]  Has anyone at the conference decoded that barcode yet?
[23:19.180 --> 23:19.800]  Not a one.
[23:19.920 --> 23:23.180]  I noticed a couple of barcode readers down in the retrocomputing area.
[23:23.360 --> 23:25.120]  And then I went back to look for them, and I couldn't find them.
[23:25.200 --> 23:26.340]  So somebody was using them for something.
[23:30.460 --> 23:31.540]  So we want to give...
[23:31.540 --> 23:32.400]  We had a few extra...
[23:32.400 --> 23:34.820]  Well, we didn't have enough posters, frankly.
[23:34.900 --> 23:36.000]  We didn't have time to put them all up.
[23:36.080 --> 23:37.000]  But we want to give these away.
[23:38.240 --> 23:47.740]  These, and you probably noticed the National Security Agency military InfoSec, InfoSec posters that we put around the escalators.
[23:48.440 --> 23:49.840]  You can't get those from the NSA.
[23:49.840 --> 23:50.440]  I tried.
[23:50.700 --> 23:51.140]  Believe me.
[23:51.540 --> 23:54.800]  They're only giving them to military agencies.
[23:54.800 --> 23:56.580]  But thanks to...
[23:56.580 --> 23:57.940]  Those weren't ours, by the way.
[23:58.020 --> 23:58.500]  Is that...
[23:58.500 --> 23:58.640]  Sure.
[23:59.560 --> 23:59.820]  Hello.
[24:02.200 --> 24:05.120]  Some people think those were our posters.
[24:05.220 --> 24:08.760]  That we made those up telling people that information security begins with you.
[24:09.160 --> 24:10.460]  Well, yeah.
[24:10.480 --> 24:13.280]  We might believe that, but we would never come up with something so cheesy as that.
[24:15.460 --> 24:16.620]  But this can only...
[24:16.620 --> 24:18.460]  I mean, it looks like straight out of the 1950s.
[24:20.120 --> 24:21.720]  But we couldn't get these ourselves.
[24:21.720 --> 24:24.220]  We had to basically take this from their website.
[24:26.100 --> 24:28.100]  And Jeff Flash did an amazing job.
[24:28.160 --> 24:28.420]  Where is he?
[24:28.560 --> 24:28.760]  Over there.
[24:29.260 --> 24:34.320]  Amazing job getting these into the shape they're in.
[24:37.300 --> 24:40.360]  You just would never believe that that was just something that was taken off of a website.
[24:40.600 --> 24:41.680]  But it's...
[24:42.220 --> 24:44.020]  Thanks to him, now everyone has seen it.
[24:45.680 --> 24:47.080]  And these aren't actual...
[24:47.080 --> 24:48.820]  The actual posters from the NSA, also.
[24:48.980 --> 24:49.340]  They're...
[24:49.340 --> 24:51.320]  We couldn't make out the...
[24:51.320 --> 24:53.380]  One of the logos in the bottom of us.
[24:53.480 --> 24:54.940]  We replaced it with the H2K2 logo.
[24:55.140 --> 24:56.000]  Therefore, it's a parody.
[24:56.300 --> 24:58.640]  And therefore, we don't violate any copyrights.
[25:07.990 --> 25:13.390]  Some of the vendors that came here were generous enough to give us some of the things they were selling.
[25:13.690 --> 25:15.510]  And we've got a pile of stuff up here.
[25:15.810 --> 25:22.750]  Also, O'Reilly & Associates, who's never been here, but obviously is a big supporter of the hacker community through its publications.
[25:24.250 --> 25:26.090]  Again, as they did at H2K.
[25:26.930 --> 25:29.310]  Sent us a nice assortment of books and t-shirts.
[25:29.630 --> 25:31.490]  So, we want to make sure that people get those.
[25:32.170 --> 25:34.410]  And we're going to have to figure out some fair way to do this.
[25:34.570 --> 25:38.510]  So, each of the badges all have unique serial numbers on them.
[25:38.690 --> 25:40.550]  So, get out your badges.
[25:42.090 --> 25:43.050]  Which you have to be wearing.
[25:43.090 --> 25:43.910]  You wouldn't be able to get in here.
[25:46.230 --> 25:49.430]  And let's just start out with...
[25:49.430 --> 25:50.910]  How about the last two digits?
[25:51.130 --> 25:55.770]  We'll start with the last two digits and we'll just go up and try to be selective that way.
[25:56.070 --> 25:57.250]  Pick a two-digit number, Manuel.
[25:58.350 --> 25:58.710]  26.
[26:00.090 --> 26:03.130]  Somebody has a suggestion, by the way, of a quick way to do this.
[26:03.190 --> 26:04.810]  We've probably got about 50 things to give away.
[26:05.050 --> 26:06.910]  So, we don't want this to take an hour.
[26:06.990 --> 26:08.690]  I think we can do it in probably about 15 minutes.
[26:10.730 --> 26:11.250]  26.
[26:11.610 --> 26:13.370]  What was the number that Manuel read off?
[26:14.830 --> 26:15.350]  26.
[26:15.610 --> 26:16.190]  You have a 26?
[26:16.830 --> 26:17.350]  Alright.
[26:18.150 --> 26:22.130]  The last two digits are 26 on your badge.
[26:22.270 --> 26:22.630]  Come on up.
[26:25.620 --> 26:26.140]  Yeah.
[26:26.680 --> 26:29.500]  Not the first two or we'd have a big rush on our hands.
[26:31.660 --> 26:32.180]  Alright.
[26:33.040 --> 26:34.880]  Pick a poster or a book.
[26:38.360 --> 26:39.720]  Pick a case of the picture.
[26:46.400 --> 26:47.280]  Or a t-shirt.
[26:47.460 --> 26:48.120]  We've got t-shirts too.
[26:51.020 --> 26:54.280]  Uh, 52 will be the next one.
[27:08.940 --> 27:10.160]  Oh, look at that.
[27:10.420 --> 27:11.200]  Good grief.
[27:23.620 --> 27:23.980]  Okay.
[27:30.500 --> 27:32.020]  Is the mentor in the house?
[27:33.440 --> 27:34.400]  Is the mentor here?
[27:34.560 --> 27:35.380]  Stand up if you're here.
[27:35.560 --> 27:36.820]  There he is, the mentor, everyone.
[27:44.080 --> 27:56.320]  The author of The Conscience of a Hacker, which many of us know by heart, and which has been quoted in such films as hackers, we'd like to make a special presentation here.
[27:56.400 --> 28:01.860]  A lot of people have been asking about the banners that have been hanging up, and I know the mentor here was interested in that.
[28:02.040 --> 28:05.300]  And I'd like to say that the banner in the front here of this table is yours.
[28:05.820 --> 28:08.840]  So take it back with you and use it well.
[28:14.120 --> 28:15.120]  Going right there.
[28:17.040 --> 28:18.180]  Another two-digit number.
[28:21.340 --> 28:21.920]  99.
[28:22.380 --> 28:22.960]  99.
[28:24.140 --> 28:25.560]  That's 99.5.
[28:26.180 --> 28:27.000]  That's easy.
[28:32.290 --> 28:33.510]  What are we giving away?
[28:39.060 --> 28:40.660]  Okay, we've got two others as well.
[28:40.780 --> 28:41.120]  Three others.
[28:52.670 --> 28:54.090]  We've got XXL.
[29:12.460 --> 29:13.540]  Installed for bricks.
[29:16.980 --> 29:18.540]  Yeah, you're going to get a little bit of a little bit of a car.
[29:18.740 --> 29:19.060]  Yeah.
[29:19.500 --> 29:19.820]  That's how we go.
[29:20.440 --> 29:20.560]  Yeah.
[29:21.720 --> 29:21.980]  Yeah.
[29:21.980 --> 29:22.000]  Yeah.
[29:22.000 --> 29:23.100]  So we've got the...
[29:23.100 --> 29:23.560]  Easy member.
[29:23.780 --> 29:24.860]  Color poster.
[29:25.640 --> 29:25.940]  Yeah.
[29:27.300 --> 29:29.480]  Okay, so when we hold this one, we'll give this one right.
[29:30.220 --> 29:30.440]  Right.
[29:30.720 --> 29:30.920]  Okay.
[29:31.280 --> 29:31.380]  Okay.
[29:31.880 --> 29:32.140]  Okay.
[29:32.140 --> 29:33.500]  Cheshire, can you hold the poster up?
[29:33.560 --> 29:34.320]  That's the next giveaway.
[29:34.740 --> 29:35.140]  Okay.
[29:37.660 --> 29:39.600]  Our next giveaway is the poster.
[29:41.080 --> 29:44.020]  Actually, what if two people have the same number and we give away the poster?
[29:44.300 --> 29:45.300]  Are they going to fight for it?
[29:46.200 --> 29:46.980]  The first one up.
[29:47.160 --> 29:47.980]  Three-digit number.
[29:48.260 --> 29:49.280]  That could take a while.
[29:57.210 --> 29:57.950]  Zero, zero.
[30:01.800 --> 30:02.160]  Nobody?
[30:02.460 --> 30:03.020]  Ah, there's somebody.
[30:03.780 --> 30:04.200]  Two people.
[30:04.480 --> 30:04.700]  Okay.
[30:05.780 --> 30:07.220]  Two people for the same prize.
[30:07.340 --> 30:08.120]  How's this going to work there?
[30:22.620 --> 30:25.340]  All right, we have to have a little competition here of some sort.
[30:30.810 --> 30:31.210]  Okay.
[30:32.050 --> 30:32.450]  Okay.
[30:33.150 --> 30:35.210]  Well, we can ask you some trivia questions.
[30:35.450 --> 30:37.910]  I guess the person...
[30:38.850 --> 30:40.390]  There's three of you with zero, zero?
[30:40.610 --> 30:40.850]  Okay.
[30:42.630 --> 30:44.530]  What was the...
[30:44.530 --> 30:46.650]  If you know the answer, raise your hand.
[30:47.810 --> 30:49.290]  And nobody shout out, please.
[30:49.790 --> 30:51.050]  What was the month...
[30:51.050 --> 30:52.150]  Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[30:52.250 --> 30:52.750]  You wanted to...
[30:52.750 --> 30:53.710]  There was a purpose behind this.
[30:53.850 --> 30:54.570]  Okay, go ahead.
[30:55.070 --> 30:55.290]  Okay.
[30:56.430 --> 30:58.570]  Mr. Ohm wants...
[30:58.570 --> 30:59.090]  Yes, you.
[30:59.650 --> 31:02.150]  Mr. Ohm wants to give away an Atari computer.
[31:02.430 --> 31:05.330]  But before that happens, he wants some questions answered.
[31:05.630 --> 31:07.190]  Oh wait, we're giving away the poster first.
[31:07.370 --> 31:07.710]  I know.
[31:07.930 --> 31:08.110]  Okay.
[31:08.450 --> 31:10.330]  But I was asking you the question...
[31:10.330 --> 31:11.010]  Or the answer to the question.
[31:11.290 --> 31:12.990]  So that I could, like, know what it was.
[31:13.770 --> 31:14.350]  Oh, okay.
[31:14.430 --> 31:15.750]  I thought you were asking for a trivia question.
[31:15.750 --> 31:17.350]  Well, I'm going to ask this anyway, because it's a good question.
[31:17.670 --> 31:21.650]  What month and year was the first issue of 2600 published?
[31:21.910 --> 31:22.910]  Do any of you know that?
[31:22.990 --> 31:23.550]  Any of you three?
[31:24.250 --> 31:24.630]  None of you?
[31:24.690 --> 31:26.090]  You can all go sit back down then.
[31:27.130 --> 31:27.270]  No.
[31:28.210 --> 31:29.050]  No, no, hold on.
[31:29.090 --> 31:30.470]  We have a three-way tie for...
[31:30.470 --> 31:30.750]  Okay.
[31:31.050 --> 31:31.910]  Do you want to guess?
[31:32.130 --> 31:32.390]  April 84?
[31:32.870 --> 31:33.130]  Sorry?
[31:33.370 --> 31:34.090]  April 84?
[31:34.390 --> 31:35.450]  No, you guessed wrong.
[31:35.750 --> 31:38.590]  I guess that means you have minus one now and they have zero.
[31:42.680 --> 31:43.340]  All right.
[31:43.460 --> 31:44.460]  What's another question we can ask?
[31:44.620 --> 31:44.980]  Go ahead.
[31:46.520 --> 31:48.860]  Ask a phone freak question or something.
[31:50.060 --> 31:51.340]  A phone phreak question.
[31:52.640 --> 31:53.200]  Okay.
[31:53.640 --> 31:58.600]  When you placed a blue box call, you would hit the button mark KP.
[31:59.160 --> 32:01.140]  What do the letters KP stand for?
[32:03.440 --> 32:05.180]  Not phone phreakers here.
[32:05.660 --> 32:07.060]  Are you guys feds or something?
[32:09.400 --> 32:10.240]  Let's see some ID.
[32:15.460 --> 32:16.300]  You get something.
[32:16.440 --> 32:16.880]  You get something.
[32:17.040 --> 32:18.320]  But yeah, you press so you disqualified.
[32:18.520 --> 32:21.540]  But we'll give you a nice little handbag there.
[32:21.620 --> 32:21.960]  There you go.
[32:24.120 --> 32:24.580]  Thank you.
[32:24.680 --> 32:24.760]  Okay.
[32:24.880 --> 32:25.420]  We're down to two.
[32:25.700 --> 32:26.180]  We're down to two.
[32:27.960 --> 32:28.560]  How about you?
[32:28.660 --> 32:29.120]  You have a question?
[32:29.240 --> 32:29.680]  A trivia question?
[32:32.020 --> 32:32.540]  Let's see.
[32:33.160 --> 32:34.480]  What do the...
[32:34.480 --> 32:37.200]  The last button you would press on an MF Tone Sequel?
[32:37.260 --> 32:38.340]  That whole thing...
[32:38.340 --> 32:38.860]  Yeah.
[32:38.980 --> 32:39.740]  It's the same phone freak thing.
[32:39.940 --> 32:40.640]  Let's do something else.
[32:42.200 --> 32:43.760]  Unix operating system or something.
[32:45.640 --> 32:48.440]  What issue of 2600 Magazine...
[32:48.440 --> 32:56.660]  What year of 2600 Magazine featured a cover that also ended up in Forbes Magazine?
[32:59.120 --> 33:00.700]  I don't think anybody knows that.
[33:05.380 --> 33:06.400]  How about this?
[33:06.700 --> 33:08.520]  What does 2600 mean?
[33:09.280 --> 33:10.240]  Either one of you two.
[33:10.520 --> 33:10.880]  Oh.
[33:11.660 --> 33:14.180]  Either one of you two know what 2600 means.
[33:16.240 --> 33:18.640]  You really regret having zero zero now, don't you?
[33:20.340 --> 33:21.120]  Hang on.
[33:22.500 --> 33:24.520]  I know it's a phone phreak thing.
[33:24.640 --> 33:25.600]  I have no idea what it is, though.
[33:26.100 --> 33:26.440]  Hi!
[33:31.580 --> 33:32.840]  We're gonna settle this.
[33:34.640 --> 33:36.820]  This is what is known as sudden-death-overtime.
[33:36.960 --> 33:37.780]  We're gonna settle this.
[33:39.700 --> 33:40.220]  Hi!
[33:42.000 --> 33:42.520]  Let's...
[33:42.520 --> 33:43.540]  Let's come up with...
[33:45.920 --> 33:48.080]  c bush job.
[33:48.240 --> 33:51.120]  Come up with a trivia question involving something else.
[33:51.120 --> 33:52.740]  Involving something, uh...
[33:52.740 --> 33:53.120]  Involving phones.
[33:53.120 --> 33:54.760]  About phones...
[33:57.820 --> 34:02.180]  Including zero, what is the fourth number of the Fibonacci sequence?
[34:06.500 --> 34:08.360]  We are such bastards, aren't we?
[34:08.700 --> 34:09.220]  Come back here.
[34:09.640 --> 34:10.740]  That isn't that hard.
[34:13.760 --> 34:15.100]  Hey, you get a tote bag.
[34:20.740 --> 34:23.080]  The fourth number, including zero, is two.
[34:24.960 --> 34:26.160]  Two, he gets it.
[34:32.840 --> 34:36.220]  Well, enough of that brain-twisting trivia.
[34:36.620 --> 34:52.680]  We've got a bunch of t-shirts and some books, and a bunch of shirts and bags from NAH6, which is a crypto organization that Rob and Barry, or some of our finest speakers here, are involved in.
[34:53.160 --> 34:55.340]  And these shirts glow in the dark.
[34:55.340 --> 34:56.400]  Well, at least the black doesn't.
[34:56.920 --> 34:58.400]  The image glows in the dark.
[34:58.400 --> 35:01.040]  So, you can have some fun with this at night time, folks.
[35:03.240 --> 35:04.460]  So, how about...
[35:06.280 --> 35:06.800]  17.
[35:06.900 --> 35:11.420]  If your badge ends in the digits 1-7, come on down.
[35:12.160 --> 35:14.320]  There's also some very petite sizes.
[35:14.320 --> 35:14.760]  Yes.
[35:15.300 --> 35:16.280]  Baby tees.
[35:17.640 --> 35:19.100]  No 1-7s?
[35:20.080 --> 35:21.460]  We've got one up there.
[35:21.860 --> 35:22.740]  How about 18?
[35:23.100 --> 35:23.340]  We've got one coming down.
[35:25.040 --> 35:27.360]  17 and or 18.
[35:27.860 --> 35:27.920]  15.
[35:34.560 --> 35:35.740]  There's another one.
[35:41.300 --> 35:42.220]  All right.
[35:42.620 --> 35:42.920]  What now?
[35:43.520 --> 35:44.340]  We've got book.
[35:45.260 --> 35:45.960]  Yeah.
[35:45.960 --> 35:50.360]  We have O'Reilly playing cards, we have t-shirts, we have a generation.
[36:09.680 --> 36:13.020]  Pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft.
[36:33.780 --> 36:35.820]  Hey, if I could have everybody's attention, please.
[36:36.380 --> 36:38.200]  I had a laptop in that room.
[36:38.340 --> 36:42.860]  It was a Dell laptop, black, with a LinkSys, or a SMC wireless network card.
[36:43.280 --> 36:45.800]  It just disappeared along with the power supply.
[36:46.560 --> 36:51.900]  So if anyone saw anyone coming out of that room with a black laptop, I was in the other room.
[36:51.960 --> 36:53.900]  I didn't see anyone go out that way.
[36:54.620 --> 36:56.220]  If you saw them, please let me know.
[36:57.580 --> 37:00.340]  It was Inspiron 8000.
[37:02.440 --> 37:07.200]  And it came up with, when you boot it up, it says, Property of the Atron Corporation.
[37:09.020 --> 37:11.580]  So if anyone sees it, please come find me.
[37:11.640 --> 37:12.140]  My name is Tony.
[37:12.580 --> 37:19.120]  Yes, this is a volunteer here, so he's been dedicating a lot of his time and doesn't always have time to keep his eyes on his own equipment.
[37:19.380 --> 37:22.200]  So it'd be really good if you could get that back, please.
[37:24.320 --> 37:25.640]  So no one has seen anyone?
[37:29.270 --> 37:29.990]  All right, thanks.
[37:44.080 --> 37:45.800]  Let's go to the next number, 19.
[37:59.760 --> 38:11.020]  I know that a lot of people have been asking me and others about what we do with all the videotapes that we've made and some of the streaming that we've done.
[38:11.520 --> 38:16.140]  Emmanuel, why don't you tell people about what might happen in the future with the availability of our taping?
[38:17.460 --> 38:23.760]  Well, what might happen is that we'll spend many, many weeks going through all of this and putting it together into a cohesive package.
[38:24.360 --> 38:30.980]  But we'll put it up on the internet so everybody who wasn't here can hear it, and everybody who was here can relive it.
[38:31.900 --> 38:36.900]  And eventually we'll make videotapes out of it, too, in case you really want to relive it and have it in your house.
[38:38.600 --> 38:43.140]  It takes a little bit of time, so we'll be making those available as soon as we can.
[38:49.200 --> 38:50.980]  Okay, we have more giveaways.
[38:51.680 --> 38:52.780]  Bernie, what else do we have?
[38:54.320 --> 39:07.860]  We're down to a few books, a couple of decks of O'Reilly & Associates playing cards, NAH6 tote bags, and some shirts generously donated by Ibiblio, you might have noticed downstairs.
[39:08.020 --> 39:13.680]  A collaboration of the Center for the Public Domain and UNC Chapel Hill, Ibiblio.org.
[39:14.380 --> 39:17.260]  Yeah, a lot of people... Does anyone use Linux?
[39:18.060 --> 39:18.420]  Yeah!
[39:20.040 --> 39:30.560]  If you ever downloaded Linux, you probably, at least at one point or other, downloaded from what used to be the first SunSite that later on became Metalab, and now it's called Ibiblio.
[39:30.700 --> 39:39.280]  And they changed their name when they got a big support from the Red Hat Foundation, the open source, whatever that is called, Center for the Public Domain.
[39:39.580 --> 39:42.660]  Anyway, these are Ibiblio shirts, and enjoy them.
[39:46.880 --> 39:48.580]  I have a computer to give away.
[39:50.060 --> 39:52.320]  It's an Atari 800XL.
[39:52.820 --> 39:56.740]  It's got two disk drives, a monitor, and software.
[39:57.460 --> 40:03.200]  And if you're interested, come up and we have some trivia questions for you.
[40:03.200 --> 40:07.800]  So, yeah, come on, you want it, it's complete, and it's for free if you answer the trivia questions.
[40:08.440 --> 40:09.840]  Yeah, more people.
[40:10.460 --> 40:10.880]  What's that?
[40:11.000 --> 40:11.800]  Can you describe this?
[40:11.800 --> 40:12.080]  Yeah.
[40:13.180 --> 40:13.600]  Okay.
[40:17.960 --> 40:26.760]  We have a rather unique giveaway here, a crypto device, and I'm going to let Ken describe what it is, and we're going to pick a winner for that.
[40:27.240 --> 40:28.080]  Oh my God!
[40:28.740 --> 40:34.240]  This device here is a high-speed crypto co-processor for a PC.
[40:34.560 --> 40:35.020]  Okay.
[40:35.020 --> 40:42.680]  It's in a standard PCI slot, and has drivers for everything from Linux to the BSDs, and maybe even Windows if you can find them.
[40:43.320 --> 40:47.820]  It's a hyphen chip, and it'll do like 60 megabits of three desks per second.
[40:48.160 --> 40:52.600]  It'll also do RSA, single desks, and a couple of other algorithms.
[40:52.860 --> 40:53.580]  It's made by Hyphen.
[40:53.580 --> 40:59.480]  We've manufactured these cards for people that actually like to have secure communications over the internet.
[41:00.420 --> 41:06.820]  This card's valued at about $100, and they're available from embsd.org.
[41:08.000 --> 41:09.800]  I'm going to ask for a number here.
[41:10.400 --> 41:12.660]  Actually, if somebody can...
[41:17.500 --> 41:17.820]  Hello?
[41:18.640 --> 41:18.960]  Okay.
[41:19.120 --> 41:20.060]  This is how we're going to do this.
[41:21.600 --> 41:22.240]  Whoever raises...
[41:22.240 --> 41:28.280]  I'm going to ask a question, and whichever one of you raises a hand first gets a chance.
[41:28.540 --> 41:28.660]  Yeah.
[41:28.960 --> 41:30.540]  It's everybody who's standing up here, right?
[41:30.920 --> 41:32.120]  Yeah, you won't want the computer.
[41:32.340 --> 41:32.440]  Okay.
[41:32.540 --> 41:34.240]  But if you get the question wrong, you have to sit down.
[41:34.520 --> 41:34.720]  Yeah.
[41:35.360 --> 41:36.520]  So don't raise your hand if you don't know.
[41:42.110 --> 41:43.150]  It's my computer.
[41:43.630 --> 41:43.910]  It's great.
[41:44.090 --> 41:44.470]  It's fast.
[41:44.790 --> 41:45.350]  Alright.
[41:46.630 --> 41:47.190]  Um...
[41:47.190 --> 41:48.210]  What was the first question?
[41:49.770 --> 41:50.330]  Um...
[41:52.560 --> 41:53.460]  We have questions.
[41:53.460 --> 41:54.360]  Okay, I know the question.
[41:54.480 --> 41:55.460]  The question is...
[41:55.460 --> 42:00.140]  What was the first word in the first issue of 2600 Magazine?
[42:00.500 --> 42:00.700]  G.
[42:01.220 --> 42:01.980]  Right there was first.
[42:02.200 --> 42:02.760]  Okay, that guy.
[42:03.020 --> 42:03.600]  Right there was first.
[42:04.300 --> 42:04.860]  What?
[42:05.180 --> 42:05.300]  Yeah.
[42:06.700 --> 42:07.060]  What?
[42:07.300 --> 42:07.500]  What?
[42:08.400 --> 42:08.800]  Sit
[42:14.530 --> 42:14.790]  down.
[42:15.090 --> 42:15.690]  Sit down.
[42:19.230 --> 42:19.790]  Yeah.
[42:25.270 --> 42:25.750]  No.
[42:26.370 --> 42:27.750]  You sit down and change.
[42:30.930 --> 42:31.410]  Um...
[42:31.410 --> 42:32.630]  The correct answer was ahoy.
[42:32.870 --> 42:33.530]  Very close.
[42:33.750 --> 42:35.270]  But not ahoy-oy, whatever that is.
[42:35.430 --> 42:35.850]  Ahoy.
[42:48.810 --> 42:50.350]  The second question is...
[42:50.350 --> 42:51.930]  This is the money question.
[42:53.610 --> 42:54.050]  Um...
[42:54.050 --> 42:55.410]  How many bits are in a nibble?
[42:56.230 --> 42:56.530]  Oh!
[42:57.070 --> 42:57.730]  Right there.
[42:57.930 --> 42:58.230]  Right there.
[42:58.490 --> 42:58.670]  Four.
[42:59.070 --> 42:59.750]  You're awesome.
[42:59.950 --> 43:00.750]  Okay, you got it.
[43:01.970 --> 43:02.050]  Yeah.
[43:02.590 --> 43:03.390]  Yeah, you won.
[43:07.970 --> 43:08.410]  Oh.
[43:08.630 --> 43:08.870]  12.
[43:09.170 --> 43:09.370]  10.
[43:11.050 --> 43:12.210]  Is that for this?
[43:12.410 --> 43:12.950]  Yeah, for the person.
[43:13.370 --> 43:14.450]  I think it'd be good.
[43:15.830 --> 43:16.270]  Okay.
[43:16.790 --> 43:18.070]  It's got to give you crypto questions.
[43:18.310 --> 43:18.690]  It's good crypto questions.
[43:20.030 --> 43:20.470]  Um...
[43:20.470 --> 43:20.850]  Yeah.
[43:20.850 --> 43:23.970]  Okay, this crypto card we're gonna give away to somebody who can answer a crypto question.
[43:24.270 --> 43:26.390]  So, it goes to somebody who, you know, knows something about crypto.
[43:27.570 --> 43:27.930]  So...
[43:27.930 --> 43:28.230]  Um...
[43:28.230 --> 43:29.190]  What's a good question about crypto?
[43:30.290 --> 43:32.230]  Recite the best ass boxes.
[43:32.990 --> 43:33.650]  Yeah, right.
[43:34.870 --> 43:35.710]  No right now.
[43:35.950 --> 43:36.310]  Backwards.
[43:40.330 --> 43:41.270]  Uh...
[43:41.270 --> 43:43.050]  This is gonna be...
[43:43.050 --> 43:43.930]  Uh...
[43:43.930 --> 43:44.150]  This is gonna be...
[43:44.150 --> 43:47.770]  How many bits were in the original implementation of DES?
[43:49.070 --> 43:49.670]  The...
[43:49.670 --> 43:51.910]  The original implementation of DES.
[43:55.470 --> 43:55.910]  Okay.
[43:55.910 --> 43:55.950]  You just got a lot of people, leaving people in your chair here at second.
[43:56.250 --> 43:56.950]  28, 28, 16.
[43:57.230 --> 43:58.070]  32, 30, 12...
[43:58.070 --> 43:58.710]  One, wouldn't be supposed to...
[43:58.710 --> 43:58.990]  First first seconds.
[43:59.890 --> 44:00.690]  Not move up.
[44:01.870 --> 44:03.170]  First second, 64.
[44:04.570 --> 44:05.690]  Anybody standing up.
[44:06.090 --> 44:06.270]  Okay.
[44:06.890 --> 44:09.230]  The area, pin ME, 10, 3, 4, 8, 40, 40, 40, 20, 30, 20, 30, 21, 20, 32, 42,, 21, 00, O.K.
[44:09.430 --> 44:09.730]  All right.
[44:09.850 --> 44:10.470]  Everybody shut up.
[44:14.910 --> 44:17.230]  Well, everybody shatter that at once, so that didn't work out too well.
[44:17.370 --> 44:17.490]  Okay.
[44:17.490 --> 44:19.290]  Let's try the hand raising thing, that works better.
[44:19.650 --> 44:19.870]  All right.
[44:20.030 --> 44:21.150]  Let the different questionern stuff.
[44:27.740 --> 44:36.440]  What company was involved, what private company was involved with NSA in developing the original implementation of DES?
[44:39.980 --> 44:41.640]  He said IBM first.
[44:42.020 --> 44:42.520]  Is IBM right?
[44:43.060 --> 44:43.640]  Okay,
[44:47.120 --> 44:47.740]  this guy gets it.
[44:47.740 --> 44:48.100]  Alright.
[44:48.860 --> 44:59.840]  It was IBM, and IBM proposed that it be 64-bit key link, and NSA pressured them to make it down to 56-bit so that they could crack it easily.
[45:03.340 --> 45:03.820]  Alright.
[45:03.820 --> 45:11.980]  I'd like to introduce one of our first speakers from the First HOPE Conference, Red Balaclava, who was part of the whole MetroCard thing.
[45:13.360 --> 45:15.520]  And someone gave us a bunch of blank MetroCards.
[45:15.660 --> 45:20.540]  They all have random numbers on the back, so I guess that's a good way to generate random numbers.
[45:20.660 --> 45:20.820]  Jim?
[45:21.480 --> 45:29.000]  Yeah, I figured I'd get up and say something because it's possible but unlikely I won't be at the next HOPE or the one after that.
[45:29.440 --> 45:36.080]  So, I came up with the idea for random number generators because there were complaints from the peanut gallery that the last couple of numbers weren't random.
[45:36.080 --> 45:41.900]  So, just like picking out of a deck of cards, we're going to pick out of a deck of MetroCards.
[45:43.040 --> 45:50.880]  And if your last two digits on your card match the last two digits on the MetroCard, it's pure coincidence.
[45:52.100 --> 45:53.520]  We haven't used that number, have we?
[45:55.500 --> 45:56.700]  Last two digits, yes or no?
[45:56.700 --> 45:57.380]  That's a new number.
[45:57.480 --> 45:58.240]  A new number.
[45:58.920 --> 46:00.820]  You've heard it before, but not from us.
[46:02.060 --> 46:02.460]  97.
[46:03.340 --> 46:04.000]  Hey, that's me.
[46:05.620 --> 46:06.340]  No, it's me.
[46:08.500 --> 46:12.520]  We'd also like to point out that some people are obviously automatically ineligible.
[46:12.920 --> 46:13.760]  You see that, right?
[46:13.860 --> 46:14.520]  You can read that.
[46:14.520 --> 46:20.790]  Any other 97's?
[46:45.550 --> 46:47.130]  I have something else to give away.
[46:50.030 --> 46:50.570]  No.
[46:50.570 --> 46:53.090]  It's a TRS-80 Color Computer 2.
[46:55.810 --> 46:56.990]  It's only the computer.
[46:57.210 --> 46:59.390]  There's nothing else in the monitor like the 800XL.
[46:59.510 --> 47:02.470]  So you missed out on that one, maybe you can get this one to make you feel better or something.
[47:09.930 --> 47:11.970]  So if you're interested, come up like last time.
[47:13.770 --> 47:15.710]  It didn't work last time, we're going to do it again.
[47:17.230 --> 47:24.670]  Okay, people interested in that, come up and line up peaceably and we'll ask you a question and see if you can pass the test.
[47:25.550 --> 47:26.510]  No running, no running.
[47:26.630 --> 47:27.430]  Everybody calm down.
[47:30.370 --> 47:33.590]  Remember what happened to the last crowd of people up here, so you might not want to be so eager to get up.
[47:36.110 --> 47:36.770]  Okay, that's it.
[47:36.870 --> 47:37.270]  We're cut off.
[47:38.790 --> 47:39.250]  All right.
[47:40.890 --> 47:43.750]  If you know the answer to the question, raise your hand.
[47:43.910 --> 47:45.250]  We will point to you and you will tell us the answer.
[47:45.310 --> 47:46.430]  No shouting out from the crowd, please.
[47:49.670 --> 47:53.130]  This question actually has two answers, so either one we will accept.
[47:54.010 --> 47:58.830]  Please name all four of the extra touch tones on a touch tone phone.
[48:00.410 --> 48:01.170]  You were first.
[48:01.770 --> 48:02.510]  You were first.
[48:02.730 --> 48:04.510]  You were first.
[48:05.390 --> 48:06.550]  A, B, C, and D is correct.
[48:09.050 --> 48:11.130]  You beat Queens by a fraction of a second.
[48:11.270 --> 48:11.690]  Sorry, Queens.
[48:13.370 --> 48:14.550]  His hand was up first.
[48:15.690 --> 48:16.670]  I'm the referee, man.
[48:16.790 --> 48:16.950]  I'm sorry.
[48:16.950 --> 48:17.790]  I'm going to give it to Queens.
[48:19.670 --> 48:21.210]  I'm going to give it to Queens.
[48:21.210 --> 48:21.470]  I'm going to give it to Queens.
[48:21.470 --> 48:21.530]  I'm going to give it to Queens.
[48:21.530 --> 48:21.730]  We got it.
[48:22.330 --> 48:23.590]  Some people are bags of shirts.
[48:24.470 --> 48:24.890]  Okay.
[48:26.970 --> 48:28.810]  Another MetroCard number drawing.
[48:29.250 --> 48:30.570]  Bernie will cut the cards.
[48:36.470 --> 48:37.670]  Are those good cards?
[48:38.150 --> 48:38.810]  Very, very bad.
[48:38.810 --> 48:39.670]  Let's fold them.
[48:40.070 --> 48:40.870]  No, no, no.
[48:41.010 --> 48:44.190]  No, that's why I may not attend the next one because of that.
[48:45.630 --> 48:46.430]  3-0.
[48:46.770 --> 48:46.910]  30.
[48:47.610 --> 48:48.490]  3-0.
[49:07.900 --> 49:10.940]  Okay, we'll go for another one.
[49:12.400 --> 49:14.560]  The EFF lady would like to make an announcement.
[49:15.260 --> 49:15.640]  Okay.
[49:15.800 --> 49:16.340]  Hey, everyone.
[49:16.780 --> 49:23.360]  I just want to say that we got some people from the Electronic Frontier Foundation out here this weekend all the way from San Francisco.
[49:24.040 --> 49:25.860]  And just as I've...
[49:32.240 --> 49:34.440]  And thanks for everybody's support so far.
[49:34.600 --> 49:38.620]  I actually got some members signed up, so thank you to all of you people who contacted me.
[49:39.580 --> 49:45.400]  Without prompting, though, just sitting in on other people's panels, I've heard the EFF mentioned at least half a dozen times.
[49:45.500 --> 49:46.720]  Without my prompting, I swear.
[49:47.360 --> 49:52.560]  So, you guys know that this organization is real important to everyone in this room, no matter what you do.
[49:52.980 --> 50:00.860]  So, I actually don't have membership forms on me right now, but I would encourage everyone go online, sign off at the EFF website, EFF.org.
[50:01.060 --> 50:02.450]  Tell them that you're here at H2K2.
[50:03.140 --> 50:05.800]  Tell them why being an EFF member is important to you.
[50:06.360 --> 50:07.860]  And please do it because...
[50:08.320 --> 50:09.620]  Because my sound is cut off.
[50:10.200 --> 50:11.080]  Thank you, everybody.
[50:19.440 --> 50:20.100]  Another card?
[50:20.180 --> 50:20.640]  Another card.
[50:20.800 --> 50:21.780]  Another card.
[50:21.780 --> 50:22.400]  I forgot the shirt.
[50:23.620 --> 50:25.320]  For that particular shirt?
[50:26.120 --> 50:27.060]  You mean it's right, right?
[50:27.520 --> 50:27.740]  Yeah.
[50:27.920 --> 50:28.420]  You're giving away the EFFs?
[50:28.680 --> 50:28.820]  Okay.
[50:30.220 --> 50:30.780]  It's a nice shirt.
[50:31.220 --> 50:33.380]  Is it for anything around you or for that shirt?
[50:33.700 --> 50:34.520]  I have a shirt.
[50:37.660 --> 50:38.140]  Wow.
[50:38.460 --> 50:41.560]  It's amazing when telepathy works, but this isn't the time.
[50:42.160 --> 50:43.020]  Four is zero.
[50:49.720 --> 50:50.640]  There's four of them.
[50:50.660 --> 50:52.100]  No, they're not consecutive.
[50:52.300 --> 50:54.280]  I'm looking at them and they're from all over the place.
[50:54.440 --> 50:55.380]  So don't worry about that.
[50:58.060 --> 50:59.560]  What I really want is a banner.
[51:00.320 --> 51:00.380]  Yeah.
[51:00.640 --> 51:03.640]  Well, I think there was only one, but do you know of any other banners?
[51:05.120 --> 51:06.260]  Were there any other banners around?
[51:06.440 --> 51:07.920]  I think some of them I've spoken for.
[51:08.160 --> 51:08.280]  Yeah.
[51:08.680 --> 51:10.460]  I'm pretty sure we gave one to mentor.
[51:11.400 --> 51:12.120]  Four is zero.
[51:12.640 --> 51:13.040]  Pick a bag.
[51:13.220 --> 51:13.600]  Pick a shirt.
[51:14.340 --> 51:15.100]  I mean, do you see any?
[51:15.540 --> 51:17.460]  I think we're a little down on them.
[51:17.680 --> 51:18.400]  What size do I have?
[51:20.000 --> 51:21.000]  No, they're not there now.
[51:21.880 --> 51:22.280]  XXL.
[51:26.160 --> 51:26.560]  XXL.
[51:26.580 --> 51:27.500]  XXL, XXL, the bags.
[51:30.340 --> 51:31.520]  And four is zero.
[51:31.740 --> 51:33.200]  You can have the one that's hanging up yesterday.
[51:33.860 --> 51:33.940]  Okay.
[51:34.460 --> 51:35.720]  It's the size we're building now.
[51:36.040 --> 51:38.140]  Ask Bernie, because I think we had a couple on the side.
[51:38.520 --> 51:40.060]  Okay, Bernie, do you know anything about this?
[51:40.580 --> 51:40.840]  Sure.
[51:41.140 --> 51:42.020]  About banners and stuff?
[51:42.460 --> 51:43.600]  EFF shirt, curl book.
[51:43.600 --> 51:44.600]  Oh, um...
[51:45.120 --> 51:45.600]  We wanted...
[51:53.690 --> 51:55.090]  Do you have some more stuff or not?
[51:56.090 --> 51:57.190]  Do you have more stuff?
[51:57.650 --> 51:57.930]  No.
[51:58.030 --> 51:58.630]  Not really.
[51:58.870 --> 51:59.030]  Okay.
[51:59.330 --> 51:59.670]  It's all right.
[52:00.170 --> 52:00.570]  Okay.
[52:03.250 --> 52:04.050]  Another number.
[52:05.650 --> 52:06.050]  63.
[52:06.890 --> 52:08.030]  I don't have an answer for you yet.
[52:16.710 --> 52:17.150]  Shirts.
[52:17.430 --> 52:18.210]  Perl book.
[52:27.730 --> 52:28.170]  63.
[52:28.550 --> 52:28.650]  Good.
[52:29.270 --> 52:30.090]  A couple shirts.
[52:30.810 --> 52:31.330]  A couple bags.
[52:31.730 --> 52:32.870]  One book on pearl.
[52:36.330 --> 52:37.930]  A couple of your chances, huh?
[52:38.050 --> 52:38.910]  Are those banners here, Jeff?
[52:38.990 --> 52:40.130]  A couple of bags.
[52:40.890 --> 52:41.190]  Let's see.
[52:41.270 --> 52:41.570]  Take one.
[52:41.730 --> 52:42.770]  But there's bags and shirts.
[52:42.770 --> 52:43.630]  You have to come upstairs.
[52:45.410 --> 52:46.250]  What are you doing?
[52:47.450 --> 52:48.290]  Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[52:48.430 --> 52:48.830]  Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[52:49.290 --> 52:49.790]  Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[52:49.790 --> 52:49.830]  Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[52:49.990 --> 52:50.350]  Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[52:50.350 --> 52:50.550]  One item.
[52:51.150 --> 52:51.570]  One item.
[52:52.830 --> 52:52.930]  See?
[52:55.230 --> 52:55.810]  Hey, look.
[52:58.230 --> 52:59.970]  Well, there's just a few more things.
[52:59.970 --> 53:00.050]  30, please.
[53:03.480 --> 53:04.160]  35.
[53:14.370 --> 53:15.130]  Any one item?
[53:15.530 --> 53:17.170]  Perl conference proceedings.
[53:17.830 --> 53:19.890]  Shirt, bag, shirt, bag, shirt.
[53:20.330 --> 53:21.370]  Any one item?
[53:24.890 --> 53:26.070]  I believe so.
[53:27.170 --> 53:28.770]  They're all XRXLRs.
[53:33.330 --> 53:34.390]  There's another one.
[53:43.280 --> 53:44.960]  Any more 35s?
[53:49.400 --> 53:51.420]  We got the one Ibiblio shirt.
[53:51.560 --> 53:52.260]  We got bags.
[53:53.600 --> 53:55.520]  And Perl proceedings book.
[53:57.440 --> 53:58.480]  Last shirt.
[54:03.920 --> 54:05.520]  Well, we're out of shirts.
[54:05.520 --> 54:10.620]  We've got an O'Reilly Perl conference proceedings and we got the handy dandy bags.
[54:14.370 --> 54:15.710]  That's an interesting proponent.
[54:15.930 --> 54:16.190]  Throw the bag.
[54:17.530 --> 54:18.830]  Throw it here for me.
[54:20.930 --> 54:22.450]  No, that's way too short.
[54:23.490 --> 54:24.770]  It's not going to work.
[54:24.770 --> 54:27.410]  It's not going to work because there's no distance on it.
[54:27.490 --> 54:28.370]  We'll let that one go.
[54:34.430 --> 54:36.270]  Okay, we found our way around that.
[54:36.410 --> 54:37.810]  Everybody stay where you are.
[54:38.110 --> 54:40.790]  We're going to have our friend...
[54:43.730 --> 54:45.450]  Mr. Ohm has more stuff.
[54:45.930 --> 54:47.890]  We'll figure out how we're going to give away the bags.
[54:48.150 --> 54:49.590]  There is no pinata.
[54:53.970 --> 54:55.870]  I got some more old computers to give away.
[54:57.190 --> 55:00.530]  I think I have another Atari.
[55:00.890 --> 55:02.370]  Actually, I think a couple of Ataris.
[55:02.650 --> 55:04.890]  And I got another Tandy Coco.
[55:05.470 --> 55:07.930]  So, what are we giving away?
[55:09.390 --> 55:10.850]  Youngest person gets them.
[55:13.770 --> 55:15.690]  I own two copies of this record.
[55:15.830 --> 55:17.310]  Oh, you did?
[55:19.590 --> 55:24.470]  Your record is the best battle record I've ever had.
[55:28.210 --> 55:29.250]  Yeah, sure.
[55:30.030 --> 55:30.670]  All right.
[55:31.670 --> 55:37.870]  So, we're going to give away an Atari 800, another one.
[55:39.290 --> 55:40.350]  With a disc drive.
[55:41.530 --> 55:42.530]  If you want it.
[55:43.150 --> 55:44.350]  So, at this point...
[55:45.570 --> 55:45.850]  What?
[55:47.210 --> 55:47.490]  Loud.
[55:47.770 --> 55:47.810]  Sorry?
[55:48.170 --> 55:48.970]  You have a question, right?
[55:49.850 --> 55:52.030]  No, we didn't... we weren't going to give one away.
[55:52.170 --> 55:52.290]  Try the question.
[55:52.490 --> 55:53.010]  Do you want a cell phone?
[55:53.630 --> 55:54.810]  Didn't you just say you were going to give one?
[55:55.030 --> 55:55.590]  Not a band?
[55:55.690 --> 55:56.750]  No, I didn't tell them I was going to give one.
[55:57.010 --> 55:58.570]  I told them the decision had not been reached yet.
[55:59.110 --> 56:00.050]  Oh, I thought we just...
[56:00.050 --> 56:00.270]  No.
[56:03.830 --> 56:04.850]  The game's over.
[56:05.010 --> 56:05.910]  Somebody got it already.
[56:06.330 --> 56:07.010]  What a gym.
[56:08.510 --> 56:09.270]  I gave it away.
[56:09.390 --> 56:10.030]  The game's over.
[56:12.130 --> 56:14.050]  Oh, but I have another computer to give away.
[56:15.030 --> 56:16.330]  Did you have a winning badge number?
[56:16.450 --> 56:17.310]  I have another Tandy.
[56:17.590 --> 56:17.730]  Oh, okay.
[56:17.850 --> 56:18.830]  Yeah, it's not for a banner.
[56:18.970 --> 56:19.470]  You can get...
[56:19.470 --> 56:19.470]  I know.
[56:19.650 --> 56:20.390]  That doesn't work anymore.
[56:20.510 --> 56:21.270]  That only worked for him.
[56:22.710 --> 56:23.970]  So the question is...
[56:23.970 --> 56:25.730]  We're not going to...
[56:27.190 --> 56:29.090]  Frankly, frankly, no.
[56:29.330 --> 56:30.470]  You're not going to get the banner.
[56:30.950 --> 56:33.070]  What's the maximum value of an unsigned integer?
[56:33.710 --> 56:33.870]  What?
[56:39.010 --> 56:39.810]  We don't know that.
[56:39.990 --> 56:40.610]  We don't know that.
[56:42.490 --> 56:44.750]  What's the maximum value of an unsigned integer?
[56:44.950 --> 56:45.510]  That's the way it is.
[56:46.370 --> 56:47.970]  We can conjure up more than one.
[56:47.970 --> 56:48.770]  Yeah, you already had your hand up.
[56:50.970 --> 56:51.330]  No.
[56:51.490 --> 56:53.070]  You're welcome to anything else on the table.
[56:57.930 --> 56:59.130]  Is that signed or unsigned?
[57:00.950 --> 57:01.930]  Yeah, I guess you're right.
[57:02.110 --> 57:02.630]  I got an answer.
[57:02.810 --> 57:03.070]  Yeah.
[57:03.770 --> 57:05.210]  There was a reason for that.
[57:06.970 --> 57:07.330]  Yes.
[57:07.330 --> 57:08.170]  Yes, that's right.
[57:09.090 --> 57:09.430]  Sorry?
[57:10.810 --> 57:13.030]  No, we're not giving... Did you see us give any banners away?
[57:13.030 --> 57:13.350]  That's not right.
[57:14.890 --> 57:16.510]  Did you see us give any banners away?
[57:17.750 --> 57:18.790]  No, we didn't.
[57:18.950 --> 57:19.070]  Yes.
[57:20.450 --> 57:21.710]  Okay, you get your machine.
[57:21.950 --> 57:22.390]  Who won?
[57:23.850 --> 57:26.130]  Okay, go down and just wait around.
[57:26.730 --> 57:27.670]  Down after this.
[57:28.470 --> 57:28.550]  Hey.
[57:29.290 --> 57:29.910]  Watch it.
[57:40.570 --> 57:44.510]  I'm not quite sure what we have left, so just come to me downstairs and...
[57:46.030 --> 57:48.970]  I'll somehow organize a way of getting rid of the rest of the stuff.
[57:51.390 --> 57:51.770]  What?
[57:53.710 --> 57:54.550]  Yeah, well...
[57:55.670 --> 57:56.430]  That's nice.
[58:13.960 --> 58:14.840]  Oh, here's one.
[58:14.840 --> 58:15.040]  That's nice, bro.
[58:15.040 --> 58:15.560]  Yes, no, she's just going in.
[58:15.680 --> 58:15.940]  Why?
[58:15.940 --> 58:15.980]  Hi.
[58:15.980 --> 58:16.340]  No, no, no, no, no.