[00:00.000 --> 00:01.340]  Dumb idea.
[00:03.540 --> 00:04.980]  Right, exactly.
[00:05.400 --> 00:07.980]  This gentleman's name is Jello Biafra.
[00:08.120 --> 00:12.540]  Before he goes on, we have a little bit of a presentation to make.
[00:12.960 --> 00:13.900]  What is your name?
[00:14.180 --> 00:14.740]  Render Man.
[00:15.080 --> 00:16.980]  This is Render Man, and what have you done?
[00:17.540 --> 00:19.300]  I own JelloBiafra.org.
[00:19.820 --> 00:29.360]  A couple years ago, Jello was complaining that he didn't even own his own name, so Render Man has been working to get JelloBiafra.org and...
[00:29.360 --> 00:30.260]  Dot net.
[00:30.420 --> 00:34.240]  Dot net, back, and slowly we are returning this man's name to him.
[00:35.880 --> 00:37.140]  There's the login info.
[00:42.110 --> 00:45.470]  Oh, I thought you'd have to do it up on this nice platform here.
[00:45.650 --> 00:47.450]  Fade the lights a little bit if you can.
[00:47.650 --> 00:49.030]  It kind of... Better?
[00:49.510 --> 00:51.150]  Although, no, don't fade the house.
[00:51.230 --> 00:53.990]  I like to see the people and all.
[00:54.110 --> 00:55.070]  Oh, where did you go?
[00:55.190 --> 00:55.850]  There you are.
[00:56.210 --> 00:57.930]  Let's make this real... There we are.
[00:59.550 --> 01:00.350]  Photo op.
[01:07.580 --> 01:09.660]  Well, thank you, kind sir.
[01:10.260 --> 01:12.780]  And now, I have a new problem.
[01:12.800 --> 01:17.580]  I also finally got to start to think, okay, if I've got it, what the hell am I going to do with it?
[01:17.900 --> 01:30.580]  Because I already have my little record label, AlternativeTentacles.com, and so any stuff about me that isn't the unofficial stuff, and there's so much of it, I just decided to let people do what they wanted with it.
[01:30.580 --> 01:43.060]  And so what I'm going to do with these, they may just all route to the AlternativeTentacles side, or we may find a way to let people just throw up there whatever they want, like they used to, and leave it at that.
[01:43.060 --> 01:49.980]  Anyway, well, as Grace Slick said at Woodstock, it's a new dawn.
[01:51.040 --> 02:03.540]  And to follow Mark's Pepsi commercial thing up here, which I thought was hilarious, one of the other... I've had a really weird set of adventures since I've been here.
[02:03.620 --> 02:11.480]  I was a last-minute addition to this program when somebody canceled after a manual saying, Oh, why don't you just come out and hang out?
[02:11.640 --> 02:13.180]  You know, it was like, hmm, a Zeus?
[02:13.340 --> 02:14.140]  Oh, a specimen.
[02:14.280 --> 02:16.040]  You can sight me in the woods, or whatever.
[02:16.240 --> 02:20.880]  But anyway, so thanks to H2K2 for having me once again.
[02:27.970 --> 02:31.170]  And for continuing to fight the power that be.
[02:35.670 --> 02:59.470]  But earlier this week, part of the reason I was able to do this was I was already in New York because I had been flown in to address a convention put on by, who was this, Jupiter Media Metrics, in association with Billboard magazine, in other words, major label executives and dot-com ubercapitalists.
[02:59.650 --> 03:04.710]  I was to talk to them about the future of digital music.
[03:05.970 --> 03:09.230]  And I thought, what do they want me for?
[03:09.230 --> 03:11.890]  I mean, who canceled at the last minute?
[03:12.030 --> 03:17.070]  So they want me in there, because the previous years they'd had Chuck D and Alanis Morissette and others.
[03:17.270 --> 03:18.370]  And wait a minute, what do you want me for?
[03:18.510 --> 03:20.690]  Well, all the other speakers were so boring.
[03:21.850 --> 03:22.910]  Oh, okay.
[03:23.170 --> 03:26.290]  Well, I'm going to do what I really wanted to do in the first place, then.
[03:27.130 --> 03:37.850]  So I went to this thing called Plug.in, was the name of it, over at the Hilton up on 53rd Street.
[03:37.850 --> 03:46.910]  And the keynote address was by somebody named Congressman Rick Boucher, or how does he pronounce his name?
[03:48.910 --> 03:51.830]  Two people said Boucher, two people said Boucher.
[03:51.950 --> 03:59.130]  This is a sensitive point with me, because that's my legal name, too, and only two teachers ever said it right.
[03:59.130 --> 04:01.390]  That's why I got another name.
[04:02.050 --> 04:06.310]  Anyway, so he was giving the keynote address.
[04:07.250 --> 04:12.330]  And then, let's see, subscription services and beyond.
[04:12.830 --> 04:15.590]  Targeting the new music consumer.
[04:16.530 --> 04:18.890]  Targeting in the rifle scope.
[04:19.270 --> 04:20.890]  Bang, bang, you're dead.
[04:20.890 --> 04:22.670]  And the people on the panel, what do we got here?
[04:22.730 --> 04:24.470]  Somebody from EMI Music?
[04:24.850 --> 04:28.810]  Somebody from WindUpEntertainmentListen.com?
[04:29.010 --> 04:32.250]  Full Audio, Savage Beast Technologies?
[04:33.090 --> 04:38.430]  Anyway, then there was going to be a research presentation, Generation Y Online.
[04:38.610 --> 04:43.510]  A sneak peek at the new online behavior and demographics report.
[04:46.400 --> 04:48.980]  And how do they obtain this information?
[04:49.400 --> 04:58.560]  I mean, privacy is becoming a bigger and bigger issue even than before, especially because everybody is talking about file sharing and fair use and all.
[04:59.120 --> 05:16.700]  Well, Larry Ellison of Oracle right now is trying to convince our government that his idea of fair use is to apply the Oracle model of interfacing all these different information databases on people into one, and apply that to government law enforcement.
[05:17.220 --> 05:19.540]  They'll see you when you're sleeping.
[05:19.600 --> 05:21.780]  They'll know what you're awake.
[05:21.980 --> 05:28.120]  They'll know if you've been bad or good because of what you buy or don't take.
[05:28.320 --> 05:28.520]  Whatever.
[05:29.100 --> 05:31.240]  Anyway, that scares me.
[05:31.560 --> 05:36.380]  Then, keynote address the first day, and I was like, my God, why do they want me here?
[05:36.640 --> 05:38.240]  Hillary Rosen.
[05:40.600 --> 05:59.820]  Noted Tipper Gore and Joseph Lieberman Lapdog, who, again, as Mark says, pretends to be the artist's friend, but actually she works for the benefit of the cartel of five corporate major labels all run by people who could care less whether they're selling nuclear bombs,
[05:59.960 --> 06:01.380]  lawnmowers, or music.
[06:01.820 --> 06:03.820]  What other things do they have?
[06:03.820 --> 06:06.220]  Teen music consumption.
[06:06.780 --> 06:09.840]  An on-stage focus group.
[06:10.300 --> 06:15.600]  So for these executives to figure out what should we force feed teens.
[06:15.600 --> 06:17.960]  I even hated that term when I was a teenager.
[06:18.180 --> 06:18.740]  Teens.
[06:19.060 --> 06:25.560]  Now, they had four real-life teens as specimens on the stage.
[06:27.260 --> 06:30.820]  Three of the four of whom said they didn't buy CDs.
[06:30.820 --> 06:33.620]  They downloaded all their music for free.
[06:34.920 --> 06:39.080]  And the fourth kid was the daughter of somebody who worked for Jupiter.
[06:39.780 --> 06:47.400]  And they said the reason for that was because they didn't have any money to buy all the CDs at their present prices.
[06:47.800 --> 06:53.700]  And then right after my thing, the closing panel, the grand finale, guess what it was called?
[06:53.700 --> 06:56.760]  Artists are Brands.
[07:00.320 --> 07:04.640]  Just so we can make everything and even humans into a brand.
[07:04.900 --> 07:14.260]  And possess not just their creative work as our corporate intellectual property, but them as our property as well.
[07:14.400 --> 07:16.280]  They are a brand after all.
[07:16.520 --> 07:19.380]  Coke, Pepsi, M&M, Limp Bizkit.
[07:19.380 --> 07:21.660]  All the same to these people, apparently.
[07:22.480 --> 07:24.900]  The Digital Club Network CEO is on the panel.
[07:25.020 --> 07:28.240]  David Goldberg, VP and GM Music at Yahoo.
[07:29.100 --> 07:29.700]  Let's see.
[07:29.880 --> 07:30.220]  Who else?
[07:30.360 --> 07:31.920]  Somebody at AOL Music.
[07:32.420 --> 07:33.880]  Somebody at Maverick Record.
[07:34.140 --> 07:35.720]  And, of course, somebody from Jupiter.
[07:36.580 --> 07:44.460]  Anyway, I took my time, as you might guess, to tell this audience why I hated major labels.
[07:44.460 --> 07:47.540]  Why I tried to buy nothing from them.
[07:47.840 --> 07:54.940]  Why they deserve to be downloaded and file shared and all they put out is shit for the most part anyway.
[08:02.020 --> 08:12.820]  And that it's not as though these teens they want to focus on are not unaware that a lot of these major labels don't pay dick-all to the artists.
[08:12.820 --> 08:16.220]  The Hillary Rose of the Red's claim, oh, we're going to bat for the artists.
[08:16.400 --> 08:25.840]  No, they're going to bat for themselves because they take the money and then charge it back to the artists saying, oh, well, we should owe you all this money, but we have expenses.
[08:26.500 --> 08:34.480]  We took 50 college radio people out to lunch at a fancy restaurant without telling you, and you paid for it.
[08:34.480 --> 08:43.140]  We made you go into our corporate-owned recording studio and pay triple the hourly rate that somebody who wasn't on our label would go to record there.
[08:43.320 --> 08:49.140]  And we got the big, big-name producer where we gave them a huge chunk of what's supposed to be your money.
[08:49.340 --> 08:53.760]  Then some of it was kicked back to us, and you get none of it, et cetera.
[08:54.380 --> 09:02.240]  And, of course, now that you get to travel in your big rockstar tour bus, never occurred to you you were paying for that, too, did it?
[09:03.100 --> 09:07.700]  Anyway, so, I made the point that I think somebody else made...
[09:07.700 --> 09:21.580]  Oh, it was Mark again, right before I was on, that what the huge boom of Napster and then post-Napster says to me is that people want choice.
[09:22.260 --> 09:24.440]  They want more choice.
[09:24.840 --> 09:28.820]  Clear Channel doesn't own every radio station in the United States.
[09:28.820 --> 09:40.700]  They just own 10% of them, which is still obscene, because they really do kick out all the local news content, for the most part, and the local public affairs programming.
[09:40.920 --> 09:44.580]  KDIA in Oakland, when it was bought out by a Clear Channel rival, Disney.
[09:44.760 --> 09:46.360]  It was an African-American station.
[09:46.720 --> 09:49.920]  Kick-ass soul, jazz, funk, hip-hop library.
[09:50.000 --> 09:54.620]  That all went out the window, so I suppose they could pipe the music in from Atlanta.
[09:54.620 --> 09:57.620]  You know, people want more choice.
[09:58.100 --> 10:11.840]  And the beauty when Napster was in full swing was there were all these things like radio shows from the 1930s and live radio plays featuring very, very well-known actors that were considered lost to history.
[10:11.840 --> 10:13.900]  And somebody found them.
[10:14.260 --> 10:15.660]  And put them up there.
[10:15.760 --> 10:16.640]  And so it was recovered.
[10:16.800 --> 10:19.820]  So it was almost a library for the world, in a way.
[10:20.520 --> 10:21.700]  So the question...
[10:24.850 --> 10:34.450]  The question I had for these folks is, okay, with all the evidence that people want more choice, and 7-Eleven saying, oh, now you have a choice.
[10:34.630 --> 10:35.630]  Ho, ho, ho, ho.
[10:35.630 --> 10:39.750]  Incidentally, also at the Hilton was... What was it?
[10:40.830 --> 10:42.290]  Voyage to Freedom.
[10:42.570 --> 10:46.930]  75 years of 7-Eleven convention was going on there, too.
[10:47.990 --> 10:53.090]  So why is the industry solution less and less and less choice?
[10:53.510 --> 11:01.690]  And this obsession, you know, like the RIAA and others, of denying people choice at all cost.
[11:02.090 --> 11:04.090]  Denying people choice.
[11:04.970 --> 11:08.750]  And business, all big business always says they want less and less regulation.
[11:08.970 --> 11:10.370]  Libertarians say this, too.
[11:10.590 --> 11:13.150]  And more marketplace solutions.
[11:13.530 --> 11:20.630]  Unless, of course, the marketplace solution doesn't fit the profit margin that they had in mind.
[11:20.630 --> 11:33.810]  And if even the teen focus group in this company is saying that they download because CDs are too expensive, and when you're supposed to only buy a full-length album and there's only one good song on it, why not just take the song?
[11:34.030 --> 11:39.450]  The reason they do this is because they don't have any money, as the teens of the focus group said.
[11:39.450 --> 11:51.270]  But this is dwarfed by people in other countries, like Brazil, where the record recording industry thinks there's a huge piracy problem.
[11:51.770 --> 11:56.590]  A legal CD costs eleven bucks, equivalent of eleven dollars, less than it does here.
[11:56.970 --> 12:00.650]  Pirate one, an equivalent of two dollars.
[12:01.070 --> 12:04.970]  And the average wage in Brazil is seventy dollars a month.
[12:04.970 --> 12:06.850]  So which way are people going to go?
[12:07.610 --> 12:15.790]  Therefore, sure enough, file sharing and burning and everything else has turned out to be the marketplace solution.
[12:16.110 --> 12:19.410]  That the privateers preach so much all the time.
[12:20.230 --> 12:40.540]  And the proof, according to Rock and Rap Confidential, was in India this was going on in such a rampant scale that even the major labels cut their CD prices in half and CD sales went up when the price was cut in half.
[12:41.380 --> 12:46.760]  150% for Sony and 300% for BMG.
[12:47.400 --> 12:56.520]  You wonder whether the Ashanti album that just went sky high on the charts for Def Jam, maybe part of the reason was they offered a two dollar rebate.
[12:57.500 --> 13:01.220]  Plus, the major labels engage in their own piracy.
[13:01.460 --> 13:12.340]  One of their forms of payola is to give all these chain stores hundreds and hundreds of copies of an artist's album for free and not pay the artist for them.
[13:12.480 --> 13:16.160]  That way the chains get to sell all these and make all the money.
[13:16.420 --> 13:23.820]  But essentially, if the artist ain't getting nothing, that's sort of a pirate too in a way, only it's the major labels who are doing it.
[13:28.710 --> 13:51.270]  And I reminded them, just as I mentioned here the last time I was here, that the beauty of the digital age is that for every barrier they try to put to block us and every little toll booth and fence they put on the information highway, some bored teenager somewhere of any age is always going to find a way to fuck the whole thing up.
[13:52.030 --> 13:53.150]  Every time.
[13:58.690 --> 14:08.050]  And sure, they got their wish and sledgehammered the original Napster into what it eventually became, but it was kind of a Medusa effect.
[14:08.230 --> 14:10.690]  Look how many heads grew in its place.
[14:11.150 --> 14:12.750]  It's bigger than ever now.
[14:12.950 --> 14:24.370]  Again, Rock and Rap Confidential reported 38,000 peer-to-peer sites have been identified, this time around, up 535% from last year alone.
[14:24.870 --> 14:28.950]  People want more choice and control over what they get to listen to.
[14:29.290 --> 14:34.890]  And I admit, just like last time, I have mixed feelings about the whole thing in some ways.
[14:35.270 --> 14:50.990]  Last time, as an artist, I mentioned that at first, you know, my gut instinct was to side with what eventually became the Metallica suit, until I looked into it and talked to some people and realized it wasn't what Lars and crew said it was.
[14:51.390 --> 15:07.690]  And at that point, it was actually helping promote artists very big and as small as I am, where people were downloading, file sharing, and basically getting other people to go out and want to buy the real album eventually.
[15:07.690 --> 15:19.030]  And sales both for the major labels and for the little folks like us at Alternative Tentacles, and I suspect Sealand, whose Negativland's in-house label, went up in the short run.
[15:19.530 --> 15:23.950]  But then last year and this year, it's gone totally the other way.
[15:24.230 --> 15:43.810]  And people of our size, who not only operate outside the mainstream entertainment industry, but also outside the corporate punk industry, and, you know, would rather offer something that's musically interesting and challenging than something that sounds exactly like Green Day Rancid,
[15:43.890 --> 15:47.110]  Bad Religion, No Effects, Blink-182, et cetera, et cetera.
[15:47.530 --> 15:52.350]  You know, no offense to some of those bands, but it's not my favorite kind of music and not what we want to do.
[15:52.510 --> 16:00.410]  And we're having a harder and harder and harder time getting rid of enough copies to be able to pay to make the damn thing.
[16:00.410 --> 16:18.950]  And in the long run, what this is resulting in is independent labels who are helping out unusual artists who nobody would hear of otherwise are going under and falling like dominoes, and the artists, some of them are giving up, going back to work full-time,
[16:19.150 --> 16:24.690]  whatever, and we're getting less of an underground because of this in some circles.
[16:24.690 --> 16:36.570]  So, again, I plead that if it's somebody you really like and you know that the money's going straight to them, at least give them the benefit of helping them out.
[16:36.710 --> 16:43.490]  I mean, Mark here said earlier, you know, he's not a rich man, and the money he made from this is going to help him fix his car.
[16:44.310 --> 16:45.710]  That's the state we're in.
[16:45.870 --> 16:50.650]  We're not all like Hillary Rosen and the RIAA trying to rip everybody off.
[16:50.970 --> 16:54.770]  We're just trying to survive because, like Mark, I'm just a high school graduate.
[16:54.770 --> 17:02.270]  Well, I had two months of college, but studied acting and history of Paraguay, and then decided I'd rather be in a punk rock band.
[17:02.410 --> 17:10.970]  And my father told me how naive that was, and I should wait and get a degree first, and then maybe try it as a hobby, and I said, ah, fuck that.
[17:11.150 --> 17:16.650]  There's a time when you've got to dare to be wrong and be ready to fuck up, and haven't looked back since.
[17:17.890 --> 17:18.250]  But...
[17:23.340 --> 17:29.160]  I mean, it's gotten to the point where when I was in Italy last year, all these people were coming over and going, oh, I really like your music.
[17:29.180 --> 17:30.580]  I really like your new stuff, too.
[17:30.760 --> 17:33.700]  And see, I downloaded it all on my MP3.
[17:34.740 --> 17:39.440]  Oh, uh, er, thanks, friend, I guess.
[17:39.640 --> 17:44.360]  But sadder still in Italy was this wasn't just underground file sharing.
[17:44.360 --> 17:58.400]  In some cases, it was a very organized pirate operation run by the mob, which I don't think anybody in this room really wants to see being able to take over this thing in the name of fair use.
[17:58.700 --> 18:06.660]  There were people walking into restaurants, African economic refugees, one every 15 to 20 minutes.
[18:06.980 --> 18:31.100]  In one restaurant I was at, you know, they didn't know any English or Italian or have any idea what guests went to language to talk to people, just holding out pirate CDs, begging, please give me some money from one of these pirate CDs, knowing that whoever his boss was or whoever trafficked him as a live pet or a workhorse into Italy was going to whack him one if he couldn't get rid of those
[18:31.100 --> 18:32.880]  pirate CDs that day.
[18:32.880 --> 18:39.440]  So it was almost indentured servitude and slave labor in the name of selling pirate CDs.
[18:39.700 --> 18:50.520]  And I don't think people who treat other human beings like that should have access to mass piracy of other artists' work, even the big artists, because they're just abusing human beings in the process.
[18:52.500 --> 18:53.020]  And...
[18:56.680 --> 19:15.680]  But in the current climate, as far as file sharing of, I guess, my best known project, my old band Dead Kennedys goes, I had to admit that it didn't really bother me much, because as of now I'm not seeing a dime from any of it anyway, because unlike the happy ending to Negativlands adventures,
[19:15.680 --> 19:19.660]  I've had a horrible one that I mentioned last time, and it's still going on.
[19:19.900 --> 19:34.580]  The other three ex-band members sued the shit out of me starting four years ago with an attorney who'd represented Journey, Boston, Doobie Brothers, and other notable punk consciousness activists from the underground.
[19:35.940 --> 19:47.600]  Basically, they went after me in a dispute that started, because I didn't want my favorite song we ever did, Holiday in Cambodia, to be used in a Levi's-Dockers TV commercial.
[19:48.000 --> 19:48.680]  Come on!
[19:49.140 --> 19:49.500]  Yeah.
[19:50.220 --> 19:50.440]  That...
[19:51.180 --> 19:51.700]  And...
[19:51.700 --> 20:05.880]  So then they trumped up all these charges that I'd burned them on royalty payments, and that, you know, our label should not be allowed to make a dime on Dead Kennedys, even though some of it was spent putting their own solo albums out, that nobody else would pull out.
[20:05.980 --> 20:09.560]  They wouldn't compromise, wouldn't settle, dragged me through a jury trial.
[20:09.760 --> 20:15.300]  I did not luck into a pro bono lawyer, so I'm really in debt at this point.
[20:15.480 --> 20:22.160]  And they even called up an expert witness at the trial from Grateful Dead Records, who testified that...
[20:23.340 --> 20:39.640]  that I should have to pay them half a million dollars in damages, because the people who now claim they wrote MTV Get Off The Air, they claim they wrote all my songs now, too, that I didn't write any of the music, therefore I should have no say, et cetera,
[20:39.720 --> 20:39.980]  et cetera.
[20:40.100 --> 20:53.540]  Anyway, they claim that I should pay them half a million dollars, because the people who claim they wrote MTV Get Off The Air were not regularly on MTV, steadily, for the past 15 years after the band broke up.
[20:54.200 --> 20:57.540]  And, to their own visible shock, the jury believed them.
[20:57.540 --> 21:18.980]  So, they've run off with all the rights to Dead Kennedys, and marketed them in the slimiest way imaginable, and handed them off to a label called Manifesto, who is run in part by the attorney who represented SST records against Negativland in the U2 dispute.
[21:19.320 --> 21:32.080]  That's the kind of mentality going on here, but still has time in his busy day to send nasty emails to kids who write him asking him what's up with my getting totally screwed in regards to Dead Kennedys.
[21:32.760 --> 21:48.460]  So, and then, the other three guys' lawyers sent a letter last August announcing they're not going to pay me a dime on anything anymore, because they want me to give them $140,000, which they claim is my share of their legal bill to sue me.
[21:49.460 --> 21:52.820]  This is the level of greed going on with these guys.
[21:53.020 --> 22:13.260]  And then, they decided to do a fake reunion tour that's still going on, and came through Brooklyn a little while ago, having an ex-child TV star, for the singer instead of me, Brandon Cruz, who was in the courtship of Eddie's father years ago, and a few smaller bands like Dr. No, they put him up there.
[22:14.760 --> 22:16.800]  He didn't even bother to learn the words.
[22:16.980 --> 22:19.020]  And then he says, oh, they mean so much to me.
[22:19.100 --> 22:23.800]  It's like winning the lottery to be in this quote-unquote band, and they didn't even learn the words.
[22:24.020 --> 22:35.380]  And on top of that, is it fair use to put a picture of the band with me in it, in the newspaper ads and the flyers, advertising a show I'm not going to be in?
[22:37.220 --> 22:38.960]  Well, I've run out of money.
[22:39.180 --> 22:41.720]  I mean, I had to file something on that one.
[22:41.940 --> 22:47.580]  But anyway, this is where we cross the line of what is and is not fair use.
[22:47.820 --> 23:06.300]  You know, just like Julia Butterfly, the tree-sitting activist who was trying to help save the redwood forest, she comes down from the tree two years later, and then some dot-com company put somebody dressed up and made up to look exactly like her, sitting in a tree in an ad,
[23:06.500 --> 23:12.820]  to try and make it look like they were down... she was down with that and all that, and she challenged him on that.
[23:13.700 --> 23:15.100]  Anyway, I also...
[23:15.840 --> 23:21.280]  So that was my attitude on Dead Kennedys was, I mean, file sharing doesn't hurt me a bit right now.
[23:21.280 --> 23:24.440]  It doesn't hurt me any more than anybody else connected with it does.
[23:25.180 --> 23:43.280]  So if you see anything in regards to Dead Kennedys on the labels Manifesto, or DK Music, or Plastic Head, or Cleopatra, just keep in mind the mentality behind it and that somebody's getting hurt in all this, and feel free to spend your money somewhere else.
[23:47.410 --> 23:48.210]  Oh, yeah!
[23:48.730 --> 24:03.510]  I don't want to whine on that subject too long, but they've also used money they owe me to launch not one, but two websites attacking me and lying about me and pumping up how wonderful Brandon Cruz is and how wonderful they are.
[24:03.670 --> 24:07.710]  And these websites, shall we say, could stand some improvement.
[24:15.260 --> 24:21.120]  DeadKennedys.com and DeadKennedysNews.com are the two fraudulent websites.
[24:21.120 --> 24:41.540]  But speaking of big ass fraud, I also couldn't resist chewing on these necktie people intermixed with smart ass loft yuppie types at this digital music convention to chew on them a little bit about the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
[24:42.880 --> 24:59.540]  And Congressman Boucher or Boucher, whoever, says he's trying to modify it so that small-time people who just have an internet radio station for fun and don't charge any money for ads or anything else don't get hit with all these huge fines and everything.
[24:59.960 --> 25:14.420]  And I can see that point, that people who are small should not be required to pay, but people who are like the digital radio arm of Clear Channel, yeah, you play my stuff, you owe me something, because you're laughing all the way to the bank.
[25:14.660 --> 25:22.420]  But if you make it like a percentage of gross revenues, the people who aren't making any money but are just doing it for fun don't have to pay any money.
[25:23.000 --> 25:25.000]  And that's the way it ought to be with that.
[25:31.420 --> 25:45.660]  I pleaded with them, saying, hey, wait a minute, you let the people, the blind people, the people in the wheelchairs, the people in the middle of nowhere, place some stuff in your own back catalog that you're too caught up in your corporate bullshit to even know exists in your vaults,
[25:45.720 --> 25:47.820]  it would stimulate sales.
[25:48.120 --> 25:53.440]  You might even be inspired to reissue some of it or at least license it to Rhino or whatever.
[25:53.640 --> 25:54.580]  And they were sort of...
[25:54.580 --> 25:57.500]  only about 5% walked out on me.
[25:57.580 --> 25:58.260]  I was shocked.
[25:58.760 --> 26:19.260]  Even nastier, and I don't know the status of it right now, there was a bill introduced by Senator Ernest Hollings of South Carolina, who has been a problem for a number of years, not the least of which was kind of trying to help Nixon out during the Senate Watergate investigation way back when.
[26:19.460 --> 26:28.440]  Even then he looked ancient, and he's still there, and he's vastly younger than South Carolina's senior senator, Strom Thurmond.
[26:28.440 --> 26:37.320]  What's up with South Carolina that they send these cryogenically frozen people into Congress again and again and again?
[26:37.980 --> 26:40.380]  The ossified brain cells and all.
[26:40.520 --> 26:49.740]  Anyway, Hollings was also a big one in favor of slapping ratings on music and games and everything else.
[26:49.920 --> 26:57.380]  The big one for that now is Senator Joseph Lieberman, who was chosen by Al Gore to be his vice president.
[26:57.680 --> 27:09.140]  So when people argue with me that Nader cost Gore the election and if Gore was president right now everything would be different, you Greens cost us the Supreme Court.
[27:09.540 --> 27:13.840]  All I have to say to reply to that is look who Gore picked for vice president.
[27:13.980 --> 27:16.220]  What do you think his Supreme Court would look like?
[27:20.070 --> 27:36.350]  In addition to being the number one enemy of free speech and underground culture in Congress, Lieberman also on the campaign trail said, the Constitution guarantees freedom of religion but not freedom from religion.
[27:36.710 --> 27:38.230]  He said that.
[27:38.470 --> 27:46.730]  He's been on Pat Robertson's show patting Robertson on the head for all the great efforts he's made in a spiritual revival.
[27:46.730 --> 27:59.490]  Lieberman is such a bigot that if he were a Baptist instead of a Jew he would have been run off of Bush's ticket for being so openly intolerant of other people's spiritual values and point of view.
[28:03.700 --> 28:06.500]  That's how bad Gore was.
[28:06.640 --> 28:11.260]  They say, oh, well, Gore wouldn't have pulled out of the Kyoto treaty to stop global warming.
[28:11.640 --> 28:12.400]  Wanna bet?
[28:12.660 --> 28:17.500]  He went to Kyoto in 98 to try and nuke it and water it down right there.
[28:18.100 --> 28:21.480]  I mean, I was gonna do this later, but I'll do this now.
[28:21.660 --> 28:23.420]  I mean, my other reply is, you know, no.
[28:23.940 --> 28:26.720]  Ralph and crew did not cost Gore the election.
[28:26.920 --> 28:28.800]  Gore cost Gore the election.
[28:33.040 --> 28:47.320]  Because there's a lot of us who gave up on voting because the choices were so bad who have gotten into it again because ballot initiatives are so important for one thing, and we're gonna vote our conscience for good people, and I don't care who the opponent is.
[28:47.500 --> 28:57.900]  I ain't voting for nobody who is pro-drug war, pro-Star Wars, pro-World Trade Organization, pro-war on terrorism.
[29:03.860 --> 29:15.140]  And Gore bragged at the Democratic Convention that he was the one who got Clinton to sign Newt Gingrich's evil welfare bill that's multiplied our homeless population exponentially.
[29:15.140 --> 29:19.040]  I mean, the guy has ice water in his veins, if he'd be proud of that.
[29:19.220 --> 29:26.340]  He bragged that he was one of the few Democrats in the Senate who voted in favor of King George I's Gulf War.
[29:27.240 --> 29:30.360]  Luckily, the convention hall was silent at that point.
[29:30.520 --> 29:31.360]  Nobody cheered.
[29:31.360 --> 29:35.660]  I'd gotten in at that point with a quote-unquote borrowed press pass.
[29:35.840 --> 29:45.400]  I was being a TV reporter for Free Speech TV, which is part of the Independent Media Center and shows on a lot of community television networks, and I couldn't believe it.
[29:45.460 --> 30:07.260]  I finally wound up... I had to get off the floor because the 20-minute pass expired, get up in the upper deck, and then these 5,000 comatose, Truman Show-ish, frighteningly straight Democratic Party delegates to this convention all burst into rabble-rousing applause like it was a Nuremberg rally or a Reef & Stall movie or something.
[30:07.460 --> 30:07.760]  Yay!
[30:08.320 --> 30:08.560]  Yay!
[30:09.100 --> 30:09.440]  Yay!
[30:09.900 --> 30:15.780]  All waving pre-provided signs I hadn't seen there five minutes earlier saying, Tipper Rocks!
[30:15.940 --> 30:17.200]  Tipper Rocks!
[30:17.300 --> 30:18.460]  Tipper Rocks!
[30:21.020 --> 30:21.820]  How...
[30:22.580 --> 30:31.980]  Well, if that doesn't show how much the contempt the Democratic Party has for people's intelligence and memory in this country, I don't know what does.
[30:32.480 --> 30:33.900]  No, my friends.
[30:37.330 --> 30:39.230]  No, my friends.
[30:39.230 --> 30:41.150]  Tipper doesn't rock.
[30:41.870 --> 30:44.810]  And neither does the Democratic Party.
[30:44.810 --> 30:47.270]  That's why I registered green.
[30:50.960 --> 31:06.140]  I also couldn't resist making these people laugh at themselves, pointing out that originally the film industry thought video rental would kill them off and make them go under.
[31:06.420 --> 31:11.720]  And it turned out to be the biggest influx of cash they've ever had.
[31:11.720 --> 31:20.720]  And the major labels used to put these little stickers on the back of albums saying, Home taping is killing music!
[31:21.100 --> 31:24.560]  Showing a cassette with crossbones and all.
[31:24.900 --> 31:27.200]  Home taping is killing music!
[31:27.520 --> 31:29.400]  And I asked them, is it dead yet?
[31:31.300 --> 31:33.580]  They failed to respond.
[31:35.050 --> 31:45.780]  So, they told them, you know, suing and arresting students and getting people fired for their jobs for downloading music onto their computers, that is not the answer.
[31:46.000 --> 31:50.000]  And squelching free radio and small labels is not the answer.
[31:50.000 --> 32:05.860]  If they really want to maintain where they are now or at least stay in the game, they could give people better music with well-packaged albums that had more than one good song on them that would make people want to buy them, especially if the price was right.
[32:05.860 --> 32:07.840]  But if they carry on...
[32:11.830 --> 32:19.910]  If they carry on as they are now, in the long run, the game is over and I don't feel a bit sorry for them because they deserve to go down.
[32:20.690 --> 32:46.710]  And if the RIAA does get Ashcroft to lock up every wicked file-sharing music fan, if they can find some place to put them all, of course, along with all the other patriotically incorrect heathens slated for the gulag and all, who will be left for the major labels to blame their slumping sales on then?
[32:52.420 --> 33:13.060]  To some degree they're listening, a billboard bulletin that was given to everybody there said that, what is this, Full Audio is now, has 75,000 songs from BMG EMI Universal Music Warner, which will all be available for rent at a two monthly pricing tiers,
[33:13.340 --> 33:28.400]  $9.95 for 50 songs, that's not bad actually, and $17.95 for 100 songs, which is actually, I think, isn't that like more than double $19.95 by 5 cents and all?
[33:28.400 --> 33:44.280]  Anyway, it used to be they wanted you to pay a buck a song or two or three bucks a song and not give you any artwork, so fighting them by file-sharing has forced them to curtail their greed, at least somewhat.
[33:45.340 --> 33:53.420]  But anyway, to move on, then I visited a friend I knew by phone and fax, but had never actually met.
[33:54.020 --> 34:04.800]  Since I was, I don't know, 13 or 14, I've been a voracious record collector whose tastes got more bizarre and eclectic as times went on, and that still hasn't stopped.
[34:05.180 --> 34:23.000]  And this guy's main area of expertise and his fondest stuff was something that's not even in the incredibly strange music books at all, a genre I didn't know existed, namely, corporate sales convention albums.
[34:26.900 --> 34:29.780]  Yes, there were these things where they'd have either...
[34:29.780 --> 34:32.680]  Well, this one's from GE executives, actually.
[34:33.520 --> 34:35.720]  And, yeah, I'll show it in a minute here.
[34:35.780 --> 34:37.280]  I've got to describe these first.
[34:37.440 --> 34:39.780]  Maybe I should put the mic on the stand at this point.
[34:39.900 --> 34:40.540]  That's what I'll do.
[34:40.540 --> 34:43.570]  Anyway, they used to...
[34:43.570 --> 35:08.920]  Maybe they still have these, I don't know, in some form, where they would bring in the sales, the smaller town salesman, or, you know, the executives for one, salesman for another, whatever, bring them all into a convention somewhere and hire a musical performing or vaudeville troupe to write and perform an entire staged musical about how great the corporation is.
[35:10.360 --> 35:19.160]  And I don't know whether these albums are recorded in the studio and given out to everybody at the convention or they all got them in the mail as their souvenirs later on.
[35:19.160 --> 35:22.630]  A few of them are recorded live, so they might have come later on.
[35:22.760 --> 35:25.130]  But there's hundreds of these out there.
[35:25.460 --> 35:36.900]  Search your thrift stores, tell people at used record shops don't toss these back if somebody brings them in because they're really, really demented, a lot of them.
[35:38.540 --> 35:40.820]  One I have at home, but I don't have here.
[35:41.130 --> 35:43.250]  Oh, by the way, some of these were bootlegged.
[35:43.400 --> 35:50.540]  Some of these songs on a CD a few years ago called Product Music that was put out by Persons Unknown.
[35:51.320 --> 35:57.920]  Anyway, and there's no hope of getting this reissued because you have to negotiate with Frito-Lay and General Electric.
[35:57.920 --> 36:00.900]  Go Fly a Kite is this one.
[36:01.040 --> 36:02.230]  And there's Ben Franklin.
[36:02.630 --> 36:09.050]  And they have a little, a token beatnik long-haired beetle guy in here.
[36:09.380 --> 36:11.860]  And there's Satan.
[36:12.840 --> 36:19.820]  And, you know, how General Electric and electricity makes heaven out of hell.
[36:19.820 --> 36:23.550]  Here's the scantily clad babes on Greek statues.
[36:24.150 --> 36:30.210]  And then on little, little phony looking circus train cars are all the new GE appliances.
[36:30.500 --> 36:34.050]  The caption is, make a woman out of your wife.
[36:34.920 --> 36:37.920]  Toasters, hair dryers, etc.
[36:37.920 --> 36:40.300]  And guess who's in the cast?
[36:40.460 --> 36:41.480]  Valerie Harper.
[36:43.020 --> 36:45.440]  Loretta Swit got started in these.
[36:45.590 --> 36:48.250]  The people who wrote Cabaret a few years later.
[36:48.520 --> 36:52.940]  Apparently there's an album of a musical they wrote for a Ford tractor convention.
[36:54.000 --> 36:56.940]  There's Rhoda very clearly in that scene.
[36:57.280 --> 37:00.210]  And it starts out, Welcome to Williamsburg.
[37:00.750 --> 37:04.320]  And Adam and Evil, A-T-O-M is another song.
[37:04.320 --> 37:11.650]  And, oh, what a technological witchcraft skit with Valerie playing one of the witches.
[37:12.550 --> 37:17.780]  Anyway, if a turntable eventually shows up up here, I'm not sure they can unplug it and bring it up here or not.
[37:17.960 --> 37:22.540]  I haven't heard these yet, but I'll pick tracks at random and play them for you.
[37:24.840 --> 37:31.190]  Okay, because that means maybe people will bet get to hear some of the Coca-Cola convention from San Francisco.
[37:31.540 --> 37:33.050]  Look at this shit, too.
[37:33.050 --> 37:35.730]  They spared no expense on this one.
[37:37.800 --> 37:46.300]  And one of the songs in here, I mean, the best of these are the ones that were really weren't meant for ears outside the company.
[37:47.540 --> 37:49.250]  Coke goes with America.
[37:49.520 --> 37:51.000]  Okay, folks and Cokes.
[37:51.170 --> 37:52.610]  We'll build our road together.
[37:54.340 --> 37:56.320]  Whatever America wants.
[37:56.960 --> 37:57.570]  Smile.
[37:57.880 --> 37:58.940]  It's great business.
[37:58.940 --> 38:03.380]  But then we have that big bottling plant in the sky.
[38:07.790 --> 38:18.750]  And what they sing about on the big bottling plant in the sky is, no environmental protection agency, no occupational safety inspectors.
[38:21.610 --> 38:27.590]  If they're that worried about the EPA and we're drinking the stuff, what the hell are they putting in Coke?
[38:36.010 --> 38:41.970]  So now, if you're a journalist, you know better than to ask, what are your influences when you're around me?
[38:43.430 --> 38:56.050]  I mean, punk rock, where I come from, has a terrible problem with conservatism and anti-creativity now, and it's because people listen to too much of the great master bands and the same bands.
[38:56.170 --> 38:58.410]  They don't explore and find things like this.
[39:03.300 --> 39:10.860]  Or, the Exxon Retailer Convention from 1979, and one of the... what have we got?
[39:10.980 --> 39:12.520]  Fugue for dealers.
[39:14.060 --> 39:15.820]  Once around the car.
[39:15.820 --> 39:18.180]  I'm starting my future today.
[39:19.260 --> 39:20.540]  Major surgery.
[39:21.140 --> 39:21.420]  Hmm.
[39:23.000 --> 39:42.000]  The one I'd heard on a tape earlier that made me want this one was an Exxon dealer's wife who talks about how wonderful the Exxon dealer's wife is because she washes his oil-stained clothes every day and makes him breakfast and dinner and is always there at home for him and all.
[39:42.550 --> 39:50.660]  It's a spooky... it's a look inside yet another kind of culture, in a way.
[39:52.730 --> 40:00.660]  And finally, back in San Francisco, like the Coke one, the 1986 Pepsi advertising premiere.
[40:00.660 --> 40:02.160]  Clear back in 86.
[40:02.380 --> 40:05.440]  There's rumors of an Enron one of these, too.
[40:05.780 --> 40:05.960]  But...
[40:06.440 --> 40:09.020]  And the whole first song...
[40:09.020 --> 40:11.120]  And this has got lyrics on the back, man.
[40:11.300 --> 40:14.600]  We're talking heavy-duty songwriting here.
[40:15.460 --> 40:21.040]  The whole first thing is ridiculing Coke for the new Coke fiasco.
[40:21.620 --> 40:26.100]  And then another song is called The Pepsi Universe.
[40:27.880 --> 40:30.400]  Out there, it's a Pepsi universe.
[40:31.300 --> 40:33.480]  Thriving since time began.
[40:37.190 --> 40:38.860]  I haven't been able to play this yet.
[40:38.860 --> 40:41.480]  I couldn't sing it because I don't know what the music sounds like.
[40:41.630 --> 40:42.550]  But it gets worse.
[40:43.380 --> 40:45.900]  Pepsi everywhere has the following.
[40:46.940 --> 40:48.280]  Oh, come on.
[40:48.380 --> 40:49.520]  Let's get in the light.
[40:49.800 --> 40:51.050]  Let's not get in the light.
[40:51.770 --> 40:54.260]  It's hard to read this black and gold in this light.
[40:54.260 --> 40:55.050]  Here we go.
[41:05.440 --> 41:05.820]  Here...
[41:05.820 --> 41:06.980]  No, that's not the one.
[41:07.140 --> 41:07.860]  Here we go.
[41:08.300 --> 41:10.340]  God, I can see myself in the gold.
[41:10.500 --> 41:11.480]  This is getting creepier.
[41:11.480 --> 41:18.240]  When our root truck calls on Niagara Falls, it's an all-long, all-day affair.
[41:18.320 --> 41:22.320]  Because that famous flow is no longer H2O.
[41:22.860 --> 41:24.440]  Pepsi's everywhere!
[41:28.260 --> 41:33.460]  In the morning, when you see grass, it's moist as it can be.
[41:33.460 --> 41:36.240]  That's not nature coming through.
[41:36.620 --> 41:39.380]  That stuff on the grass is mountain dew!
[41:50.530 --> 41:53.930]  Anyway, we'll play that a little later if we get a turntable up here.
[41:53.990 --> 42:03.400]  I brought the 45 I got by somebody who's so far off the Rush Limbaugh scale, he's accusing coma patients of being welfare cheats.
[42:04.010 --> 42:04.870]  And all.
[42:06.330 --> 42:09.190]  People ask me in Europe, why do I still live here?
[42:09.190 --> 42:12.370]  With stuff like this going on, why would I want to live anywhere else?
[42:12.710 --> 42:15.530]  Home is where the disease is!
[42:19.200 --> 42:23.860]  And that's as close as a segue as you're going to get to the next part here.
[42:24.900 --> 42:45.040]  Last night I was at a panel that was facing the other direction in more ways than one that included a speaker named Robert Steele, who I think is talking in the other room or doing something else tonight, but I can't not be up here and not vent a bit of disagreement with some of the stuff he had to say.
[42:45.360 --> 42:53.060]  He was talking about how he felt that the FBI was way behind the times in the digital realm.
[42:53.060 --> 42:59.060]  And when he said that, I was thinking, good, I feel that much less threatened by them.
[43:01.800 --> 43:16.400]  But he was saying, we should not, you know, we should, we should all, you know, people with the kind of skills that a lot of you have should be offering yourselves to the FBI to help improve their technology to fight terrorism.
[43:17.440 --> 43:18.000]  Well...
[43:19.760 --> 43:38.860]  Even another person on that panel said, hey, wait a minute, they were so obsessed with fighting one small congressman named Bella Abzug, who admittedly was so right on you'd never find her in Congress today, and then they let the pilots slip through and Zakaria Masui slip through and not even,
[43:38.860 --> 43:45.720]  you know, not even read all the stuff that was in Arabic in people's apartments, the people who blew up the World Trade Center the first time.
[43:46.120 --> 43:51.300]  You know, the FBI has a very skewed opinion of what constitutes a terrorist.
[43:51.680 --> 43:53.520]  Exhibit A, Kevin Mitnick.
[43:55.640 --> 43:56.200]  Anyway...
[43:56.880 --> 43:57.440]  So...
[43:58.120 --> 44:04.600]  What I'm saying is, with all due respect, I totally disagree with that point of view.
[44:05.060 --> 44:08.920]  Don't offer yourself to the FBI, fuck the FBI.
[44:16.880 --> 44:24.690]  With the knowledge in this room, they're not going to use it to fight people who could actually set off bombs and kill a lot of innocents in this country.
[44:24.690 --> 44:31.710]  They'll use it the way however John Ashcrack and people like that want it used instead.
[44:33.710 --> 44:37.380]  The abuses have already gotten completely out of hand.
[44:37.520 --> 44:49.420]  The Denver cops were busted a while back for keeping files on as many as 10,000 people as potential subversives and thus terrorists because they'd been seen attending an Amnesty International meeting.
[44:50.040 --> 44:52.540]  Or American Friends Service Committee.
[44:52.600 --> 44:53.820]  How did they know their names?
[44:53.820 --> 45:00.340]  They had people on police time or overtime infiltrating those organizations.
[45:00.800 --> 45:09.500]  And in the San Francisco Bay Area, you know they have those BART trains, Bay Area Rapid Transit that goes under the Bay, San Francisco, Oakland, Berkeley, the rest.
[45:10.100 --> 45:12.460]  Well, the closest thing we've got to is Subway.
[45:12.820 --> 45:18.620]  Now they've got cops with dogs on the trains to fight terrorism.
[45:19.700 --> 45:21.340]  Drug sniffing dogs.
[45:21.980 --> 45:30.620]  So did way if they find a terrorist sitting there with a doobie in their pocket, they're going to smoke when they get home, they're going to bust them, God damn it!
[45:30.840 --> 45:32.460]  We'll show Osama!
[45:32.710 --> 45:34.060]  We're serious now!
[45:45.700 --> 45:47.040]  New McCarthyism, exactly.
[45:47.180 --> 45:53.460]  And I don't think the FBI should have any more tools than they already have to enforce and implement new McCarthyism.
[45:54.140 --> 46:00.180]  And Mr. Steele asked, told us to ask ourselves, what do we want in a new FBI?
[46:00.720 --> 46:04.240]  I had a simple answer to that, mass resignations.
[46:10.360 --> 46:17.900]  After all, Mr. Steele also said that our current law enforcement community has been totally bought off by corporations.
[46:18.740 --> 46:19.240]  Duh!
[46:20.140 --> 46:25.060]  And, you know, if there's going to be a new FBI, why not go after corporate crime?
[46:25.200 --> 46:27.960]  Crime in the suites instead of crime in the streets.
[46:28.180 --> 46:34.240]  And go after gangs that really do hurt people and do human trafficking, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
[46:34.680 --> 46:39.760]  But the FBI hasn't just had this turned around ass-backwards in the 60s.
[46:39.880 --> 46:44.000]  It was ass-backwards from the get-go, as far as I'm concerned.
[46:44.000 --> 46:51.000]  Another little interesting visit I had while I was here was I found out an old friend of mine...
[46:56.830 --> 46:58.230]  Sorry, Mr. Steele!
[46:58.390 --> 46:58.690]  Please!
[46:59.030 --> 46:59.170]  Please!
[47:01.810 --> 47:07.030]  Anyway, a friend of mine worked at... How many of you know what the Lomax Archives is?
[47:08.450 --> 47:22.470]  You know, decades before file sharing or even computers, a man named Alan Lomax picking up where his father left off, even in the 20s, and he's 90 now, and he still watches over this thing.
[47:22.630 --> 47:26.290]  Semi-retired, his daughter's there, my friend Don Fleming is there, and others.
[47:26.410 --> 47:38.190]  Anyway, he was going around in the American South, taping music sung in the fields, going into Mexico, going to Europe, taping American folk music.
[47:38.190 --> 47:44.950]  But if it was a field holler, he didn't drag them into a recording studio, he recorded them right in the field.
[47:45.170 --> 47:57.410]  And knew enough about the technology that the recordings are usable enough today that Rounder has put out dozens of CDs after all these years, reissuing all the stuff Lomax collected.
[47:57.410 --> 48:00.490]  And it's so huge, not all of it will ever come out.
[48:00.490 --> 48:03.030]  He filmed people, he photographed people.
[48:03.390 --> 48:08.710]  One photo I saw was of him interviewing a 90-year-old man about his days as a slave.
[48:09.510 --> 48:19.550]  That's the kind of information that gets lost when people like Clear Channel are in charge of the radio, and PBS and the Discovery Channel are in charge of our history.
[48:19.950 --> 48:22.450]  You know, this is really interesting stuff.
[48:25.310 --> 48:29.370]  They even let me rifle through a box of old 78s on the floor.
[48:29.510 --> 48:30.250]  Ooh, this looks weird.
[48:30.370 --> 48:30.790]  Play this.
[48:30.990 --> 48:36.610]  Ooh, there was even a black R&B single with a song called Jungle Bunny on it.
[48:36.670 --> 48:37.650]  I couldn't believe it.
[48:37.810 --> 48:45.610]  But anyway, got one out and it was an old hillbilly song about what a bad man John Dillinger was.
[48:46.190 --> 48:51.010]  But then, it occurred to me last night during the other discussion, Wait a minute.
[48:51.310 --> 48:55.410]  Why is that guy singing about John Dillinger?
[48:55.970 --> 49:01.970]  What made John Dillinger so important, such a pop star in a way?
[49:02.070 --> 49:05.850]  Just like the media made Timothy McVeigh and Osama Bin Laden pop stars.
[49:06.310 --> 49:08.150]  Dillinger was a pop star.
[49:08.370 --> 49:11.950]  Pretty Boy Floyd, Alvin Karpus, pop stars.
[49:12.550 --> 49:19.930]  Because they were small-time, they were self-contained, and they were easy to catch to make the FBI look good.
[49:19.930 --> 49:34.090]  Why didn't the FBI put that kind of energy into getting rid of Al Capone, let alone all the corporate sharks who got away with causing the Great Depression and the stock market crash of 1929?
[49:34.590 --> 49:40.370]  Even then, don't get mad at the executives who threw you in the street.
[49:40.890 --> 49:43.490]  Fear John Dillinger instead.
[49:43.490 --> 49:47.430]  This goes way, way, way back.
[49:48.090 --> 49:58.450]  So, one of the ways to turn this around is once again, as I said the last time, don't hate the media, become the media.
[50:03.820 --> 50:22.160]  The problem with Clear Channel owning so much of the radio and Disney owning so much more, and other, and CBS and others owning so much more, is the music we're exposed to and the news and viewpoints we're exposed to are in the hands of fewer and fewer and fewer people,
[50:22.540 --> 50:27.160]  all of whom didn't get where they are by being nice guys.
[50:27.400 --> 50:28.580]  Let's put it that way.
[50:28.580 --> 50:38.960]  So that's the reason that spreading information is more important than ever, not just on the net, but one-on-one with people you know.
[50:38.960 --> 50:46.020]  If they start spouting the, yeah, we should go invade Iraq, or them damn welfare cheats cost me my job, or something.
[50:46.360 --> 50:47.840]  Bush is great, whatever.
[50:48.100 --> 50:50.020]  Wish Giuliani was still here.
[50:50.700 --> 50:55.600]  Don't just tune them out as being hopelessly unreachable, but sit down and talk to them.
[50:55.600 --> 50:57.720]  You know, it may not...
[50:58.800 --> 51:08.840]  They may not agree with you the very first time, but have you ever disagreed with something and then slept on it and eventually decided maybe it was right after all?
[51:09.060 --> 51:12.480]  If we don't plant these seeds, who will?
[51:16.770 --> 51:17.930]  And time...
[51:19.370 --> 51:20.710]  Oh, we got it.
[51:20.790 --> 51:22.290]  Okay, we'll get to that in a minute.
[51:22.730 --> 51:42.250]  And time is of the essence because the Bush gang is still hell-bent on sending, now they're saying as many as 300,000 ground troops into Iraq, just in case, just so we can kill Saddam Hussein, because Cowboy Bush and his barnyard friends think it's a cool idea.
[51:44.270 --> 51:52.330]  Not all of those 300,000 troops are gonna come home again, and if enough of them die, the draft is back, ladies and gentlemen.
[51:52.690 --> 51:58.030]  And Canada ain't gonna let draft dodgers in this time, the corporations have bought them off too.
[51:58.890 --> 52:07.990]  Worse yet, think of the impact, you know, they already hate us so bad for the first Gulf War, we got Osama Bin Laden.
[52:08.590 --> 52:15.490]  We have a 99% disapproval rating of the Saudi royal family by the Saudi people.
[52:15.770 --> 52:32.390]  You know, some people who know more about it over there is predicting that the Saudi regime, the PLO, and the Jordanian monarchy, and the Egyptian dictatorship are all gonna fall to violent Islamic fundamentalists in the next five years.
[52:32.390 --> 52:46.630]  It's the religious descent is the only kind allowed where you don't get killed for doing it, and look what it's spawning, and we are fanning those fires the more we abuse people all over that part of the world.
[52:52.210 --> 53:10.040]  And if we send that many troops into Iraq, what kind of fires is that gonna start among the general populations, all wanting to do one mass intifada against us in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Algeria, Libya, Indonesia is the largest Muslim country in the world,
[53:10.440 --> 53:34.100]  Pakistan, where the population was already estimated to be 15% pro-Taliban, 30% pro-Taliban, a Pakistani Taliban movement in the armed forces, that's gonna empower them like nothing ever has, and that's gonna mean that many more Osama Bin Laddins, that many more suicide bombers,
[53:34.360 --> 53:49.440]  that many more Al-Qaeda's, and the end term result will be maybe, maybe Georgie Jr. can give his father Saddam's head on a plate, but it's gonna make our lives less and less and less and less safe.
[53:49.440 --> 53:52.300]  the way they're running the war on terrorism now.
[53:56.990 --> 54:13.750]  In other words, we go into Iraq now, it will be the worst foreign policy mistake in our entire lifetime, by far, in terms of the backlash that's gonna be hitting us, blowing up our buildings, blowing up us, for generations to come.
[54:13.970 --> 54:19.430]  You kill off everybody who sympathizes with Bin Laden, what are their kids gonna be like?
[54:19.430 --> 54:21.590]  What are their kids gonna be like?
[54:21.590 --> 54:25.410]  At some point, you gotta say, this isn't working.
[54:26.130 --> 54:29.850]  There's no way we will ever win a war on terrorism.
[54:30.110 --> 54:33.050]  Israel's been fighting one since the minute of their birth.
[54:33.270 --> 54:34.470]  Have they won yet?
[54:34.970 --> 54:39.130]  Have the British won their war on terrorism in Northern Ireland?
[54:39.450 --> 54:45.750]  And yet, somebody as dumb as Bush and as greedy as his friends think we can take on the whole world and win?
[54:45.750 --> 54:48.770]  I don't think so.
[54:52.950 --> 55:10.890]  But, one of many things, most people, and even a lot of people in this room, probably don't know, because the media in this country, corporate media, is so tightly controlled now, is that no one in Europe, or no one in Canada, is down with the war on Iraq.
[55:10.890 --> 55:18.410]  Not even Tony Blair, the biggest cheerleader for the war on terrorism, supports an invasion of Iraq.
[55:18.850 --> 55:24.390]  We will burn our bridges with people over there, too, if we do that.
[55:24.590 --> 55:30.050]  But this also means that does have some restraint in everything.
[55:30.050 --> 55:48.590]  It means that even the Bush mob may at least listen to reason, if even Blair and the Germans and the French and the Canadians and the Japanese say, don't do that, or, you know, we are not going to be down with you anymore, and it's going to cost you dearly economically.
[55:48.590 --> 55:51.430]  Even Bush can listen to that.
[55:51.710 --> 56:07.990]  Therefore, it's very important, if you keep in touch with people overseas, to urge them to put pressure on their own governments to hold the line against Bush's crazy war, and save the world from the United States government.
[56:11.150 --> 56:26.590]  Feels lonely right now to oppose the war on terrorism, but that was the same thing people felt when just a handful of people, after Lyndon Johnson rammed through the Gulf of Tonkin resolution and sent all those troops into Vietnam.
[56:26.850 --> 56:33.450]  By the way, the Gulf of Tonkin incident is now even acknowledged by the corporate media to have not really happened.
[56:34.250 --> 56:35.090]  Like what else?
[56:35.470 --> 56:37.350]  So, yeah, like what else?
[56:37.530 --> 56:41.350]  Anyway, you know, and that makes me wonder whether Bin Laden even exists.
[56:43.510 --> 56:50.210]  What happened at the Trade Center, you bet that exists, and that was pretty bad.
[56:50.650 --> 57:00.710]  But was it really all because of one guy whose cartoon stereotype of what American racists are supposed to hate is just a little too convenient?
[57:00.950 --> 57:06.490]  It was all that one guy in the cave, man, the turban, the beard.
[57:10.750 --> 57:18.990]  You know what we did by pinning it all on Bin Laden instead of trying to look under even one rock to address the root causes of all this?
[57:19.290 --> 57:24.890]  It means we made him an overnight pop star all over the Middle East.
[57:25.210 --> 57:27.670]  People are naming their sons Osama.
[57:27.930 --> 57:33.310]  There's Pakistani kids eating bags of candy with his picture on it now.
[57:33.310 --> 57:36.830]  There are even... you could even get cell phones there.
[57:36.950 --> 57:38.750]  We know a little image on the screen.
[57:38.970 --> 57:40.250]  There's Osama!
[57:40.790 --> 57:42.730]  There's the buildings going down!
[57:43.110 --> 57:46.090]  That's how other people are seeing this.
[57:46.390 --> 57:50.310]  You know, that's the kind of fire we are playing with.
[57:50.910 --> 58:03.690]  And the way to get through to people that the war on terrorism is wrong is just, you know, this works even with people with flags in the windows and flags on the cars.
[58:03.710 --> 58:14.090]  And, you know, as much as I feel threatened by that image after all these years of it being co-opted by the bullies on the right, you have to let people have their flags.
[58:14.510 --> 58:21.330]  People are expressing grief and outrage and sympathy for the families and pride in their country.
[58:21.610 --> 58:25.190]  And not all the people flying the flags are that fond of Bush either.
[58:25.490 --> 58:27.270]  So, give them freedom of speech.
[58:27.470 --> 58:28.570]  Let them have the flags.
[58:30.690 --> 58:43.010]  But, the way to get through to people that the war on terrorism is wrong is just to point out, as I said earlier, the way we're running it even now today is piss-poor military strategy.
[58:45.730 --> 58:51.910]  Because we're just creating, planting the seeds for more terrorists which is going to make our lives less safe.
[58:52.210 --> 59:09.950]  My girlfriend's stepmother is so gung-ho Republican that she has a whole wing of her house devoted to a Republican museum open to the public with Reagan and Bush memorabilia an example of every single American flag ever made.
[59:10.390 --> 59:18.430]  When it was pointed out that this was piss-poor military strategy by my girlfriend, even this woman stopped and said, you know, that's a really good point.
[59:19.450 --> 59:22.150]  That's the way to get people to stop and think.
[59:22.390 --> 59:28.230]  And we have a long ways to go if we're going to mobilize a movement in this country to put the brakes on Bush.
[59:28.430 --> 59:38.970]  They already smelled enough of a rat that they postponed invading Iraq from before the election thinking it will win lots of votes for them to after the election.
[59:39.530 --> 59:56.650]  That's progress in a way, but it would be better just to pull the plug on this whole thing right now before we get into deeper and deeper doo-doo to borrow his father's phrase and wind up paying for it with our own security for generations to come.
[59:57.150 --> 01:00:03.850]  Mr. Steele proposed a troika of a president and Colin Powell and Sam Nunn.
[01:00:04.470 --> 01:00:06.270]  I don't think so.
[01:00:06.810 --> 01:00:12.130]  Even Colin Powell is now saying we need regime change in Iraq.
[01:00:12.130 --> 01:00:13.990]  Let's go kill a bunch of people there.
[01:00:14.650 --> 01:00:22.510]  Powell, by the way, if I'm not mistaken, way back as a young officer helped cover up the My Lai massacre in Vietnam.
[01:00:22.910 --> 01:00:24.770]  He ain't no dove, my friend.
[01:00:24.770 --> 01:00:31.870]  He ain't no voice of reason in the service of pigs and idiots known as the Bush administration.
[01:00:32.750 --> 01:00:51.670]  How does the one he personally threatened the new leader of East Timor as soon as that country became independent saying, if you support an international world court that's designed to bring butchers like Milosevic and the people in Rwanda and uplay all these to justice,
[01:00:52.650 --> 01:01:03.490]  but the Bush doesn't want there to be an international criminal court because they might come after this Bush or his father or Kissinger or whoever.
[01:01:04.510 --> 01:01:09.250]  But, you know, in other words, the International Criminal Court should apply to everybody but us.
[01:01:09.630 --> 01:01:12.250]  So said, so said, with the tip of a cowboy hat.
[01:01:12.590 --> 01:01:26.230]  But Powell told the President of East Timor, you go along with the International Criminal Court like all these other countries except us already have, not one penny of foreign aid for you.
[01:01:27.330 --> 01:01:33.090]  So, I don't have a whole lot of respect or admiration or trust for Colin Powell either.
[01:01:33.310 --> 01:01:34.010]  I'm sorry.
[01:01:36.310 --> 01:01:45.570]  And it's lonely as it feels right now to be in opposition to the war on terrorism and trying to spread the word on that.
[01:01:46.390 --> 01:01:55.610]  Well, it's kind of like being one of the lonely voices in the wilderness after the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution saying, wait a minute, we shouldn't be sending all these troops into Vietnam.
[01:01:55.610 --> 01:02:01.950]  That war is wrong and bad things are going to happen to both the Vietnamese and to us.
[01:02:02.290 --> 01:02:09.670]  And those people were shouted down as traitors, communists, freaks, pinkos, faggots.
[01:02:10.190 --> 01:02:18.250]  And this was soon enough after the Cuban Missile Crisis that there was a lot of fear of what the communists might try and do to us next.
[01:02:18.630 --> 01:02:35.910]  But, against those odds and against having the federal government, military-industrial complex, and both the hierarchies of the Democrats and the Republican parties aiming at the American people in both barrels, the American people did stop the Vietnam War.
[01:02:41.880 --> 01:02:47.880]  And, we stopped the Gulf War a hell of a lot quicker, didn't we?
[01:02:49.300 --> 01:03:09.600]  The reason King George I stopped all the troops at the border between Kuwait and Iraq when General Schwarzkopf was chomping at the bit to do a General Sherman job all through Iraq and destroy Basra and Baghdad, hope he fries up, you know, an old Saddam Hussein on the barbie once he gets home or whatever.
[01:03:10.540 --> 01:03:13.080]  Why did Bush let it go through?
[01:03:14.020 --> 01:03:16.400]  The protestors, it was getting
[01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:21.300]  more.
[01:03:21.560 --> 01:03:29.920]  It wasn't the majority of the country, but just enough that it had the impact needed to accomplish the job.
[01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:43.600]  There aren't that many people rampantly sharing files, but already the majors are dropping their prices down, down, down, down, because they're scared of the shock troops of the fair use movement.
[01:03:44.060 --> 01:03:53.800]  You know, it doesn't take a 50% majority of 130 million Americans to stop the war on terrorism and the planned invasion of Iraq.
[01:03:54.040 --> 01:04:05.420]  It takes people getting in everybody's face enough that it gets on TV, it gets all over the net, and even somebody as clueless as Bush realizes there might be a problem here.
[01:04:05.420 --> 01:04:05.980]  Yeah!
[01:04:10.730 --> 01:04:12.070]  I don't know what to do about these things.
[01:04:12.230 --> 01:04:13.390]  Now, hey, hey, hey, hey, come on.
[01:04:13.530 --> 01:04:14.150]  Give me a pretzel.
[01:04:14.230 --> 01:04:14.750]  Give me a pretzel.
[01:04:14.850 --> 01:04:15.670]  Right now, here, here, here.
[01:04:15.670 --> 01:04:16.090]  Give me a pretzel.
[01:04:16.850 --> 01:04:17.290]  Not
[01:04:24.570 --> 01:04:24.850]  totally.
[01:04:25.790 --> 01:04:32.730]  The Russian Democratic is a Republican convention that came right out and said on national TV, don't pass for taxes.
[01:04:35.590 --> 01:04:38.670]  I hope that's not what this war is really about.
[01:04:39.170 --> 01:04:43.470]  I hope this isn't what he means by faith-based initiatives.
[01:04:44.290 --> 01:04:57.470]  After all, I mean, we know we have violent religious fanatics on the Islamic side, but the people claiming they're running the war for us on our side are violent fundamentalist Christian fanatics.
[01:05:04.370 --> 01:05:12.090]  Did anybody else see that little side in the New York Times editorial saying, oh yeah, we're going to double the sides of the CIA in the next five years?
[01:05:12.450 --> 01:05:12.870]  Awesome.
[01:05:13.390 --> 01:05:13.410]  Yeah.
[01:05:14.090 --> 01:05:15.270]  That's what he said.
[01:05:16.490 --> 01:05:19.130]  They've done such a great job so far.
[01:05:19.270 --> 01:05:21.130]  Let's have twice as much of them.
[01:05:22.650 --> 01:05:30.090]  Then they too can see, you know, to help Ashcroft determine if anybody is having sex without his permission.
[01:05:32.030 --> 01:05:36.130]  I mean, Ashcroft is so much like the Taliban in the Christian version of it.
[01:05:36.410 --> 01:05:44.590]  Did you know he even put a blue velvet curtain around the Lady Liberty statue in the Justice Department because there was one bare metal breast?
[01:05:44.750 --> 01:05:46.230]  Hardly anybody knows this.
[01:05:54.780 --> 01:06:05.500]  said that he was planning a huge blitz against the adult video industry and even soft-core porto mags because they were unchristian and all that other stuff.
[01:06:06.500 --> 01:06:07.050]  And, uh...
[01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:14.860]  Yeah, well, the September 11th delayed all that, but he's getting ready to go again.
[01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:17.040]  So, maybe the way...
[01:06:17.040 --> 01:06:21.240]  I mean, there is humor in the ugly situation of the war on terrorism.
[01:06:21.240 --> 01:06:30.120]  And one of them would be if Ashcroft got so carried away that we all retaliated with a million news march on Washington.
[01:06:37.220 --> 01:06:45.840]  One million people rolling around in the Capitol Mall, doing all these things Ashcroft says he doesn't like.
[01:06:46.120 --> 01:06:50.660]  And another 10,000 on his front lawn, just for good measure.
[01:06:54.850 --> 01:06:56.530]  And when, uh...
[01:06:56.530 --> 01:06:59.590]  Fox News asks why are you doing this?
[01:06:59.810 --> 01:07:03.830]  Because we love our country and we're being patriotic, sir.
[01:07:06.610 --> 01:07:15.230]  As far as I'm concerned, the most patriotic thing we can be doing right now is spreading the word that the war on terrorism needs the plug-pull.
[01:07:15.490 --> 01:07:15.850]  Now.
[01:07:19.980 --> 01:07:21.760]  We've got all the other stuff they've been doing.
[01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:34.220]  I'm sure there's been a lot of discussion here on the USA Patriot Act and hardly anybody in Congress bothered to read and they didn't want to look unpatriotic so they said, okay, well, we're so patriotic, fuck the Constitution.
[01:07:34.660 --> 01:07:35.220]  Now J.
[01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:47.160]  Edgar Hoover's ghost can come and the new FBI can come read your files and check your computer any time they want and if you tell anybody they've been to your home or business you can go to jail for that, too.
[01:07:48.120 --> 01:07:53.940]  That's another reason I don't think us helping the FBI is quite the best solution to this problem.
[01:07:54.280 --> 01:08:00.820]  It's beginning to look a lot like 1984 and the things before.
[01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:07.700]  Oh, we actually let's put these down here so I don't spill them on my handwritten notes.
[01:08:08.020 --> 01:08:10.000]  No printouts for me.
[01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:14.980]  I have the same relationship with computers as I did the last time.
[01:08:15.140 --> 01:08:18.960]  Not for any Luddite reasons I just haven't had time to deal with them.
[01:08:18.960 --> 01:08:25.720]  I mean, aside from all the porn I could get anything I want that everybody else gets off of there in other ways anyway.
[01:08:26.220 --> 01:08:29.220]  I will eventually, but I mean,
[01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:36.900]  it's been a computer printout where everything's in a straight line, too.
[01:08:37.880 --> 01:08:44.260]  There is the songs, I can't figure out what word I want to put where, I put them smaller and smaller, put them in different colors, whatever.
[01:08:44.680 --> 01:08:46.800]  You can't do that if you write on a computer.
[01:08:48.060 --> 01:08:51.180]  It's just my hat backwards, inefficient.
[01:08:52.690 --> 01:08:54.850]  I hope the results speak for themselves.
[01:09:02.880 --> 01:09:12.440]  And, in case because he's protesting, why don't we do just like Kissinger and the rest and overthrow the democratically elected leader of Venezuela?
[01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:19.960]  Which we're getting ready to try again, apparently, judging from the last USA Today I saw.
[01:09:20.580 --> 01:09:26.460]  You know, cowboy Bush, you don't want to help the government get more access to technology to do these things.
[01:09:26.660 --> 01:09:29.820]  And, of course, there's Bush's phrase of the axis of evil.
[01:09:31.480 --> 01:09:37.660]  You know, Bush, Rumsfeld, cheating, kind of what you did, the extra, et cetera.
[01:09:38.940 --> 01:09:43.200]  He didn't clear that phrase with the State Department or anything.
[01:09:43.400 --> 01:09:45.520]  He just put it in there, the State of the Union address.
[01:09:45.720 --> 01:09:50.040]  It's just like Reagan, you know, we turn that guy loose without his cue card.
[01:09:50.280 --> 01:09:51.220]  Bad things.
[01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:53.120]  One of these weird things.
[01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:15.560]  Bush said that during the second televised debate.
[01:10:15.780 --> 01:10:19.720]  And did corporate print media review it and the next day call him on it?
[01:10:20.200 --> 01:10:20.960]  No.
[01:10:21.660 --> 01:10:30.300]  You know, the whole thing on the debate was, well, Gore appeared more informed on the issue, but Bush appeared more likable.
[01:10:31.380 --> 01:10:33.460]  Appeared more likable.
[01:10:33.700 --> 01:10:34.980]  Therefore, he won.
[01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:37.020]  That's what they were saying.
[01:10:37.280 --> 01:10:45.400]  And of course, the debates were basically Bush and Gore patting each other on the head over who loved executions and taking money from poor people more.
[01:10:48.120 --> 01:10:56.620]  Which wouldn't have happened if they hadn't changed the rules around at the last minute to make sure Ralph Nader couldn't debate.
[01:10:57.700 --> 01:11:15.800]  How many of you know that not only was Nader locked out of the three televised debates where he wouldn't have let comments like that from Bush go, but he was given a ticket by somebody who got one at random by lottery to be in the audience of the first debate in Boston.
[01:11:16.200 --> 01:11:21.880]  Every other ticket holder let in, Nader stopped by the cops and threatened with arrest.
[01:11:23.040 --> 01:11:25.640]  This is what democracy really looks like.
[01:11:25.980 --> 01:11:29.420]  So then, Fox News gives him a press pass.
[01:11:29.660 --> 01:11:30.840]  Fox, of all people.
[01:11:31.480 --> 01:11:36.020]  And, all the Fox reporters and the crew get in with their passes.
[01:11:36.680 --> 01:11:40.500]  Ralph Nader is surrounded by cops and threatened with arrest.
[01:11:40.960 --> 01:11:46.540]  If I were in his shoes, I would have let them arrest me right then and there and that would have gotten out of the way.
[01:11:53.350 --> 01:12:03.670]  But because it didn't, that's where us as media activists is so important to get the word out about these things.
[01:12:03.910 --> 01:12:09.070]  And, I went over to Europe for a tour five days after September 11th.
[01:12:09.150 --> 01:12:11.430]  I had to get over my fear of flying quick.
[01:12:11.930 --> 01:12:30.030]  And, I was amazed at the contrast between the quality and the depth of even the straight and even conservative media coverage of September 11th and its origins, its roots, and its ramifications in the European media versus the American media.
[01:12:30.230 --> 01:12:35.990]  I've joked when our media has gotten so dumbed down at the corporate level that it's like Pravda.
[01:12:36.310 --> 01:12:42.050]  You know the old Soviet Union newspaper where you'd have eight pages a day of all the government thought you should know?
[01:12:42.570 --> 01:12:43.530]  We're there.
[01:12:44.370 --> 01:12:45.110]  We're there.
[01:12:47.370 --> 01:12:54.930]  I came back to this country thinking everybody else knew the stuff that I did as to what had been going on over there.
[01:12:55.350 --> 01:12:56.240]  One of the best sources...
[01:13:04.900 --> 01:13:25.300]  You can read their stuff on their site Guardian.co.uk If you want any real coverage of the war on terrorism, don't go to the New York Times, let alone the Wall Street Journal, which actually the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal in disguise these days as far as I'm concerned.
[01:13:25.840 --> 01:13:28.840]  Go overseas where you get a more objective point of view.
[01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:30.420]  Check out the Guardian or whatever.
[01:13:30.980 --> 01:13:35.560]  They had a report over here that the Guardian did two stories on this.
[01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:52.480]  There was an informal diplomatic meeting in a Berlin hotel room last July attended by America, Russia, Iran, Pakistan, Northern Alliance, Taliban invited, declined to attend, and according to the Guardian, the American diplomat came right out and said,
[01:13:52.740 --> 01:13:57.300]  we're getting ready to invade Afghanistan and take out Osama bin Laden.
[01:13:57.880 --> 01:14:11.160]  And he didn't seem to care that the Pakistani representative took that news back to the Taliban government, who were originally our friends, in Afghanistan, which the Guardian reported he did.
[01:14:11.460 --> 01:14:14.100]  I thought that was very interesting.
[01:14:14.940 --> 01:14:22.720]  I also thought it was interesting that that last bin Laden video, we weren't even allowed to see on TV over here.
[01:14:23.200 --> 01:14:28.380]  Well, over here, they said, oh, it's old footage, the guy's probably dead.
[01:14:29.240 --> 01:14:33.160]  Overseas, everybody's saying it's new, and he's very much alive.
[01:14:33.620 --> 01:14:34.840]  What is the truth?
[01:14:35.160 --> 01:14:36.240]  Who knows?
[01:14:36.780 --> 01:14:38.400]  That's what worries me the most.
[01:14:38.860 --> 01:14:43.840]  Another thing not reported over here, the hype is, all the planes were grounded.
[01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:47.160]  No planes flew in America on September 12th.
[01:14:47.260 --> 01:14:47.720]  Wrong.
[01:14:48.480 --> 01:14:49.600]  One did.
[01:14:50.020 --> 01:14:57.800]  A chartered Saudi airliner picking up members of the bin Laden family in America to fly them safely home.
[01:14:58.620 --> 01:14:59.320]  Yeah.
[01:14:59.860 --> 01:15:09.020]  And, how many of you know that the Bush family and the bin Laden family have had a business relationship for almost 25 years?
[01:15:12.430 --> 01:15:14.030]  Do I need to go into that?
[01:15:14.030 --> 01:15:15.730]  I saw a lot of hands go up.
[01:15:16.250 --> 01:15:17.930]  What do I need to do with that?
[01:15:18.130 --> 01:15:18.570]  They say.
[01:15:19.230 --> 01:15:22.550]  Well, George W.
[01:15:22.570 --> 01:15:34.830]  Bush, one of his partners in his first business venture, Arbusto Energy in 1979, was Salem Bin Laden, Osama's older brother by one year.
[01:15:35.070 --> 01:15:38.610]  He was later reportedly killed in either a car or a plane crash.
[01:15:38.690 --> 01:15:40.490]  I've seen it listed as both.
[01:15:40.770 --> 01:15:54.750]  and King George the First unfortunately didn't fade into the sunset and retire like Reagan or spend all his time on a golf course being a golf bum like Gerald Ford or whatever.
[01:15:55.550 --> 01:16:11.910]  George Bush the First went right back into the intelligence operatives and dirty tricks business and is now part of a company called the Carlyle Group, where he gets $800,000 in Carlyle stock, first speaking appearance.
[01:16:12.290 --> 01:16:21.390]  The Ted of Carlyle is Frank Carlucci, who was one of the secretaries of defense in the country here in the Reagan-Bush regime.
[01:16:22.070 --> 01:16:27.250]  And Carlyle is now the 11th largest defense contractor in the United States.
[01:16:27.250 --> 01:16:27.450]  in the United States.
[01:16:27.450 --> 01:16:30.450]  They came out of nowhere, thanks to some of these connections.
[01:16:30.750 --> 01:16:32.310]  And they don't even make anything.
[01:16:32.590 --> 01:16:38.550]  They just specialize in buying up floundering manufacturers of weapons of mass destruction.
[01:16:38.850 --> 01:16:46.750]  They buy them up, get them, make the money again, and then either sell them or keep making the money off of them before they move on to another host.
[01:16:46.750 --> 01:16:55.570]  Also working for Carlyle are James Baker, Bush's former Secretary of State, the first Bush.
[01:16:55.950 --> 01:17:00.690]  John Major, who replaced Thatcher as conservative prime minister of Britain.
[01:17:01.250 --> 01:17:08.070]  Colin Powell was doing speaking engagements on behalf of Carlyle before he became Secretary of State.
[01:17:08.630 --> 01:17:19.930]  And, according to Michael Moore, when George Bush I flies to Saudi Arabia to do business for Carlyle, he is put up in the Bin Laden family mansion.
[01:17:20.610 --> 01:17:33.710]  And, according to not just Michael Moore, that at least that I've been able to find, one of the other investors in Carlyle up until October when it got a little hot in there, was the Bin Laden family.
[01:17:34.690 --> 01:17:45.130]  On top of that, did anybody notice on the front page of the New York Times today, a company called Brown and Root is privateering and making money off the war on terrorism.
[01:17:45.310 --> 01:17:53.470]  They're a private company that puts up the temporary military bases in Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, wherever.
[01:17:53.930 --> 01:17:57.150]  They run the mess halls, they do the soldiers laundry.
[01:17:57.810 --> 01:18:01.850]  These private employees wear military charge, too.
[01:18:02.030 --> 01:18:09.370]  They look like soldiers, carry guns, and they're making money off the war by doing this instead of the army doing it themselves.
[01:18:10.170 --> 01:18:13.050]  Guess who owns Kellogg, Brown and Root?
[01:18:14.470 --> 01:18:15.110]  Halliburton.
[01:18:15.110 --> 01:18:15.210]  Halliburton.
[01:18:15.770 --> 01:18:16.330]  Halliburton.
[01:18:16.330 --> 01:18:39.730]  The oil pipeline construction company that until recently was run by a guy by the name of Dick Sheen, who when he was still head of Halliburton, were negotiating with the Taliban on whether or not to put an oil pipeline through Afghanistan and had gotten another company to do a feasibility study of the project.
[01:18:39.730 --> 01:18:42.610]  that company's name is Enron.
[01:18:44.010 --> 01:18:49.230]  This is the kind of stuff that is not getting reported in the American media.
[01:18:49.790 --> 01:19:09.970]  Therefore, if you find stuff like this and reliable sources like the European media, send them out to other people, get people to read this stuff before we get into the Middle East deeper and deeper and deeper protest.
[01:19:11.650 --> 01:19:12.170]  Exactly.
[01:19:12.430 --> 01:19:15.590]  But there's other ways to protest besides hitting the streets.
[01:19:15.950 --> 01:19:18.010]  And that's why I'm getting back to becoming the media.
[01:19:18.130 --> 01:19:22.410]  I'm down with street stuff and creative crime too.
[01:19:22.750 --> 01:19:23.350]  Believe me.
[01:19:23.890 --> 01:19:24.410]  But...
[01:19:25.030 --> 01:19:29.810]  Even if you don't want to do that, just telling people what's going on is important.
[01:19:30.250 --> 01:19:38.950]  Don't let the more radicals about tell you that just because you don't have a black mask on, you're getting your head cracked and gasped by the cops doesn't mean you're helping out.
[01:19:39.410 --> 01:19:41.890]  Doing something is better than doing nothing.
[01:19:43.250 --> 01:19:44.530]  Every time.
[01:19:45.790 --> 01:19:46.970]  Every time.
[01:19:51.020 --> 01:19:58.620]  I want to read you this from The Guardian in Britain, September 29, 2001.
[01:19:59.540 --> 01:20:01.460]  I happened to run into this when I was over there.
[01:20:01.540 --> 01:20:02.800]  I thought it was very interesting.
[01:20:03.280 --> 01:20:09.740]  In 1979, after the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and let me preface that.
[01:20:10.620 --> 01:20:11.260]  There's a...
[01:20:11.260 --> 01:20:13.800]  Do you know who Zbigniew Brzezinski is?
[01:20:13.920 --> 01:20:16.440]  Jimmy Carter's old national security advisor?
[01:20:17.190 --> 01:20:28.800]  He recently did an interview that so far has only been published in a French magazine bragging that we helped start the whole civil war in the downfall of Afghanistan.
[01:20:29.020 --> 01:20:34.120]  We didn't start arming and training Mujahideen after the Soviets invaded.
[01:20:34.120 --> 01:20:42.640]  We started recruiting Islamic zealots to go do our dirty work six months before the invasion.
[01:20:42.980 --> 01:20:50.500]  Because we thought it would be a neat idea to draw the Soviets into an unwinnable war in a country we're now trying to win a war in.
[01:20:51.120 --> 01:20:53.380]  We thought it would be a real neat idea.
[01:20:53.380 --> 01:20:55.160]  Look what's happened to us now.
[01:20:55.880 --> 01:21:12.220]  Anyway, quote, in 1979, after the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the CIA and Pakistan's ISI, Inter-Services Intelligence, launched the largest covert operation in the history of the CIA.
[01:21:12.920 --> 01:21:28.900]  Their purpose was to harness the energy of Afghan resistance to the Soviets and expand it into a holy war, an Islamic jihad which would turn Muslim countries within the Soviet Union against the communist regime and eventually destabilize it.
[01:21:29.160 --> 01:21:32.880]  When it began, it was meant to be the Soviet Union's Vietnam.
[01:21:33.340 --> 01:21:35.700]  It turned out to be much more than that.
[01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:40.360]  Over the years, through the ISI, where was I?
[01:21:40.480 --> 01:21:52.820]  There I am, the CIA funded and recruited almost 100,000 radical Mujahideen from 40 Islamic countries as soldiers for America's proxy war.
[01:21:53.120 --> 01:22:00.840]  The rank and file of the Mujahideen were unaware that their jihad was actually being fought on behalf of Uncle Sam.
[01:22:01.200 --> 01:22:07.640]  The irony is that America was equally unaware it was financing a future war against itself.
[01:22:08.340 --> 01:22:19.300]  In 1989, after being bloodied by 10 years of relentless conflict, the Russians withdrew, leaving behind a civilization reduced to rubble.
[01:22:19.840 --> 01:22:22.400]  Civil war in Afghanistan raged on.
[01:22:22.620 --> 01:22:28.500]  The jihad spread to Chechnya, Kosovo, eventually to Kashmir and of course many other places.
[01:22:28.820 --> 01:22:35.660]  The CIA continued to pour in money and military equipment, but the overheads had become a mess and more money was needed.
[01:22:36.280 --> 01:22:44.220]  The Mujahideen ordered farmers to plant opium opium as a revolutionary tax.
[01:22:44.580 --> 01:22:49.840]  The ISI set up hundreds of heroin laboratories across Afghanistan.
[01:22:49.840 --> 01:23:04.400]  within two years of the CIA's arrival, the Pakistan Afghanistan borderland had become the biggest producer of heroin in the world and the single biggest source of the heroin on American streets.
[01:23:05.060 --> 01:23:10.160]  In other words, the ones on the streets of this town among others that were killing my friends.
[01:23:10.500 --> 01:23:26.160]  The annual profits said to be between 100 and 200 billion dollars were plowed back into trading and arming militants, including a young hot head with a great big trust fund by the name of Osama...
[01:23:27.360 --> 01:23:37.080]  This is the kind of stuff that needs to be spread to people who factually believe what they read in the New York Times and see on CNN.
[01:23:37.500 --> 01:23:41.460]  And again, I don't think we have a whole lot of time to lose.
[01:23:42.220 --> 01:23:50.000]  War on terrorism, one of the ways that might have actually turned this around is start addressing the root causes of terrorism.
[01:23:50.320 --> 01:24:06.100]  And on top of that, I find myself agreeing with Michael Medved, of all people, that right-wing punditoid and he wrote in the USA Today of all places, the American people must pursue prevention and protection, not punishment.
[01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:09.460]  Prevention and protection, not punishment.
[01:24:10.040 --> 01:24:22.840]  And some of the ways to do that would be, as much as humanly possible, not just ending our dependence dependence on foreign oil, but as much as we can, trying to cut down and end our dependence on oil altogether.
[01:24:29.290 --> 01:24:35.520]  And people say, oh, you're never going to replace people with that, why do you just, why do you even put out ideas like that?
[01:24:35.840 --> 01:24:41.400]  Unless you have people think of what is possible, because that's the first step to making it possible, right?
[01:24:41.700 --> 01:24:41.720]  Yeah!
[01:24:41.720 --> 01:24:45.640]  Why not keep running down a little something like that?
[01:24:46.060 --> 01:24:50.780]  Why SUVs are a greater threat to national security than Osama bin Laden?
[01:24:54.410 --> 01:25:12.450]  It's not just because it seems to bring out the flaming road rage asshole and everybody who drives one between the half dozen who's nearly run me over in this town in the past few days, running traffic lights because they got their big fat navigator, therefore the law doesn't apply to them.
[01:25:12.730 --> 01:25:31.110]  It doesn't just increase our dependence, not just on foreign oil, but thus increases our dependence on keeping everybody in that part of the world repressed so we can make off with our natural resources to power our slime mobiles back across the island.
[01:25:33.660 --> 01:25:46.500]  And on top of that, what business can be to fortify our whole country to the Great Wall of China against terrorism if we put so many holes in the sky and we can't go outside anymore?
[01:25:51.020 --> 01:25:59.760]  And in all ways, the bush mob is cynically manipulating our fear and our upset over September 11th.
[01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:04.640]  Nobody's more cynical than they are about it, but the most cynical part of all is Star Wars.
[01:26:06.320 --> 01:26:18.440]  I'm far more afraid of one of those things, not just bankrupting us, just like the Soviet Union went bankrupt in an arms race, but what happens if one of those things malfunctions?
[01:26:19.300 --> 01:26:27.460]  Fire is at a target and starts a war, crashes back to Earth like the Soviet space station or Russian space station Mir did a while back.
[01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:40.860]  That could potentially have another plutonium in there, that if it blows, there would be enough plutonium dust in our atmosphere, its most toxic substance in the world, to slowly kill off every breathing critter left on the planet.
[01:26:41.540 --> 01:26:42.940]  Even snake can't finish.
[01:26:43.580 --> 01:26:55.030]  Far more afraid of that than Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, and big bad North Korea combined.
[01:26:55.650 --> 01:27:03.590]  Why not take all the money in your marketing for Star Wars and put it into things like safer airports and safer planes?
[01:27:03.670 --> 01:27:04.370]  Education!
[01:27:04.790 --> 01:27:06.950]  Yeah, healthcare and education too.
[01:27:07.330 --> 01:27:14.550]  Not just for us, but for all the other people it's so mad at us for making them poor they're turning into terrorists!
[01:27:18.790 --> 01:27:21.330]  We've been to the hype after September 11th!
[01:27:21.450 --> 01:27:23.190]  Show how patriotic you are!
[01:27:23.330 --> 01:27:24.950]  Fight Osama bin werewolf!
[01:27:25.210 --> 01:27:26.530]  Go shopping!
[01:27:27.730 --> 01:27:28.310]  Yeah!
[01:27:28.870 --> 01:27:43.670]  Isn't it our appetite for shopping and cheap stuff that's turning the rest of the world into our little WTO-enforced slave plantation that spawns the enemy that creates terrorism in the race country?
[01:27:49.240 --> 01:27:50.520]  So, uh...
[01:27:50.520 --> 01:27:51.320]  I forgot where I was...
[01:27:51.320 --> 01:27:51.660]  Oh yeah!
[01:27:51.840 --> 01:27:52.800]  More solutions...
[01:27:52.800 --> 01:27:54.180]  More solutions all this!
[01:27:54.280 --> 01:27:54.480]  Okay!
[01:27:55.060 --> 01:28:10.600]  More Star Wars money could be spent on something that little did I know until I got to Florida that voters in the 2000 election passed this on a state ballot initiative and now Governor Jeff Bush won't spend the money It's a high speed train system!
[01:28:12.220 --> 01:28:16.560]  Costly but we can afford Star Wars and make the train!
[01:28:16.840 --> 01:28:18.660]  Go to Boston in an hour!
[01:28:18.820 --> 01:28:19.560]  Go to D.C.
[01:28:19.720 --> 01:28:20.100]  in an hour!
[01:28:20.200 --> 01:28:22.260]  Go to Miami in 3 or 4 hours!
[01:28:22.540 --> 01:28:23.360]  Go to L.A.
[01:28:23.440 --> 01:28:26.420]  or San Francisco in 5 or 6 hours or less!
[01:28:27.140 --> 01:28:31.520]  You know, maybe not quite as quick as it would take to go on a plane to look at the payback!
[01:28:31.740 --> 01:28:34.120]  You're not burning everything up with jet fuel!
[01:28:34.320 --> 01:28:37.320]  You can't get hijacked and float into a building and killed!
[01:28:37.920 --> 01:28:41.120]  And granted the TV you get scenery too!
[01:28:41.820 --> 01:28:46.860]  Something besides the New Flight magazine and awful Disney movies to keep in company!
[01:28:47.620 --> 01:28:56.100]  And granted it's gonna go by at work speed but after all those hyper driven MTV commercials and all I'm sure you'll use the last one!
[01:29:01.960 --> 01:29:12.680]  And as Michael Ford put it, will we ever reach the point when we realize we will be more secure when the rest of the world isn't living in poverty so we can have nice running shoes?
[01:29:17.080 --> 01:29:33.320]  And another thing that got us into this mess today was even with the first Afghan war well not the first of that country but the first of the ones that are factoring here to drive out the Soviet Union did we come in there and thank the Afghan people?
[01:29:33.560 --> 01:29:38.660]  Did we help rebuild their roads, their sewers, their cities, their buildings, their schools?
[01:29:39.120 --> 01:29:39.680]  No!
[01:29:40.060 --> 01:29:40.940]  We did nothing!
[01:29:41.400 --> 01:29:45.120]  Thanks for being hand foddering corpses in our little property war!
[01:29:45.400 --> 01:29:46.300]  See ya!
[01:29:47.600 --> 01:29:49.600]  That's what gave us the Taliban!
[01:29:50.040 --> 01:29:59.620]  We left all the guns in the hands of these Mujahideen people who turned into warlords and shot up the country even worse to the point where it made the Taliban look good!
[01:29:59.840 --> 01:30:07.940]  And now we're letting it happen again and the warlords are killing each other again, the poppies are growing everywhere again, and it doesn't have to be that way.
[01:30:08.340 --> 01:30:14.960]  Don't put money into Star Wars, put it into rebuilding the places we fuck up in the first place.
[01:30:21.440 --> 01:30:28.320]  To prevent the kind of nuclear catastrophe they're only beginning to talk about now is when it falls into the wrong hands.
[01:30:28.840 --> 01:30:36.660]  Because we didn't, we didn't really help the former Soviet Union after we quote unquote won our Cold War either.
[01:30:36.660 --> 01:30:44.820]  now they have all these leftover weapons, even rumored to be nukes in Ukraine and Russia and Kazakhstan and all.
[01:30:45.460 --> 01:30:48.260]  Sooner or later they're going to be starving bad enough.
[01:30:48.340 --> 01:30:52.920]  If they aren't already, they're going to sell that stuff to whoever will give them money to get some food.
[01:30:53.120 --> 01:30:53.340]  Yes!
[01:30:53.940 --> 01:31:08.500]  Why don't we spend our big ass military budget going into those places buying up all those weapons with money or with food or whatever and destroying them on sight before they fall into other people's hands.
[01:31:13.690 --> 01:31:15.470]  We've had to learn this before.
[01:31:15.630 --> 01:31:20.730]  After World War I, did we help the German people out when we got rid of their government?
[01:31:20.930 --> 01:31:21.190]  No!
[01:31:21.310 --> 01:31:35.430]  We just left them there, rubbed their noses to the misery of the ruins and squalor of their own country, the humiliation times got so bad that for a while in post-World War I Germany it took a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread.
[01:31:35.930 --> 01:31:46.110]  By the time the 30s rolled around people were so desperate, so bitter, so angry, they all but democratically elected Hitler to power.
[01:31:47.390 --> 01:31:48.370]  Then what happened?
[01:31:49.690 --> 01:31:52.130]  Me and back after World War II we were a little smarter.
[01:31:52.290 --> 01:32:07.110]  There was the Marshall Plan to rebuild Germany and put Western Europe back together and get Japan back off the ground and integrate it into the world economy and thus provide all those lovely gizmos you have so much fun with in Japan today.
[01:32:08.990 --> 01:32:13.030]  Why no Marshall Plan for the former Soviet Union?
[01:32:13.590 --> 01:32:37.010]  We have abandoned those people to mob rule and if we don't help them out at some point and get the money and the aid to the right people instead of just the so-called oligarchs in the mob, they're gonna want a strong man who's gonna make the trains run on time and get rid of those pesky Jews and immigrants of a different color and go fuck with the United States and Western Europe,
[01:32:37.170 --> 01:32:42.610]  we're planting seeds again through our own negligence and it just doesn't have to be that way.
[01:32:45.820 --> 01:32:59.480]  To Colin Powell and Sam Nunn were such great visionary people, they would be calling for this right now for the way our foreign policy and security apparatus really needs to change.
[01:32:59.700 --> 01:33:01.540]  Okay, I'll have a dull period.
[01:33:01.780 --> 01:33:02.920]  Thank you, my servant.
[01:33:03.280 --> 01:33:03.480]  You
[01:33:08.940 --> 01:33:10.580]  can sell it on eBay now.
[01:33:15.220 --> 01:33:16.820]  Holy water, anyone.
[01:33:17.900 --> 01:33:20.080]  Oh, my old record collection.
[01:33:20.420 --> 01:33:26.660]  My punk rock seven inches of the bands I used to knew back in the day and made me who I am today.
[01:33:26.880 --> 01:33:29.040]  I love this stuff so much.
[01:33:29.040 --> 01:33:30.440]  It means so much to me.
[01:33:30.740 --> 01:33:32.520]  I'm gonna sell it on eBay.
[01:33:36.980 --> 01:33:39.240]  Aaron McGruder was here earlier.
[01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:46.260]  Yeah, I'm sure it's the one that's the one that's the one that's the one that's the one.
[01:33:48.180 --> 01:33:59.820]  How he gets away with getting that stuff in daily papers I do not know, but sometimes humor can be the most powerful weapon because it gets through to people and you can get it into these places.
[01:33:59.820 --> 01:34:02.400]  Tom tomorrow cartoons and other things.
[01:34:06.360 --> 01:34:09.160]  He asked, was asked, was he hopeful?
[01:34:10.520 --> 01:34:15.600]  And that, that's a tough question for me too, but I thought it was worth taking a stab at.
[01:34:15.820 --> 01:34:24.740]  I wouldn't say I'm optimistic, but I am hopeful because I do disagree with Aaron when he says there's no new protest movement today.
[01:34:25.120 --> 01:34:30.420]  I mean, I do agree with him that if Martin Luther King came out today, nobody would know his name.
[01:34:30.740 --> 01:34:40.560]  Not just because they forget to report it in the news, just like they forget to report Ralph Nader being locked out of the debates and the Bushes and Bin Laden's financial relationship.
[01:34:40.860 --> 01:34:46.360]  It's all likely that if a Martin Luther King or Malcolm X came up today, the cops would blow his head off.
[01:34:46.700 --> 01:34:47.480]  That's right.
[01:34:47.660 --> 01:34:52.540]  But that doesn't mean there's not a strong new movement today.
[01:34:53.360 --> 01:34:57.640]  It's called, even in Europe, it's called the spirit of Seattle.
[01:34:58.260 --> 01:35:02.420]  the anti-corporate movement, fighting corporate power.
[01:35:02.800 --> 01:35:11.430]  Everything from the local movement to people refusing to pay major the
[01:35:16.630 --> 01:35:17.510]  rest of the time.
[01:35:17.770 --> 01:35:20.850]  That is part of a very important new movement.
[01:35:21.190 --> 01:35:28.490]  Again, it's still small, but they're already scared enough of us that the police presence is getting heavier and heavier and heavier.
[01:35:28.750 --> 01:35:34.790]  They've been trying to point fingers and saying that the spirit of Seattle people helped cause the bombings on 9-11.
[01:35:34.790 --> 01:35:37.270]  Prime Minister of Italy said that.
[01:35:37.490 --> 01:35:39.210]  Wall Street Journal said that.
[01:35:39.770 --> 01:35:43.870]  So, why not have more of it at this point?
[01:35:44.410 --> 01:35:49.730]  Anyway, that is where I get my hope.
[01:35:49.970 --> 01:36:04.070]  When I see people instead of blindly wearing clothes with great big corporate brand names on them and only wanting the cushy job in the SUV, they're starting to say, wait a minute, I want a life out of my life.
[01:36:04.310 --> 01:36:08.990]  I don't want to just be a spending machine or whatever.
[01:36:09.330 --> 01:36:15.630]  And people getting smarter about what they eat, what they watch, what they listen to, how they get their information.
[01:36:16.010 --> 01:36:30.610]  The more we can help spread this, the better, many of us, but it is making a difference, and we stop the Vietnam War, we can turn the tide against corporate dictatorship as well.
[01:36:30.610 --> 01:36:33.390]  long-term over our life.
[01:36:37.280 --> 01:36:41.730]  And we're not as alone as we might think we are on this.
[01:36:42.050 --> 01:36:51.810]  There was a rather conservative mainstream magazine began getting some interesting poll results and publishing them a few years ago.
[01:36:52.170 --> 01:37:00.450]  This conservative mainstream magazine says that over half the Americans they hold thought the protestors in Seattle had a point.
[01:37:00.610 --> 01:37:04.290]  then it got more interesting during the 2000 election.
[01:37:04.290 --> 01:37:11.830]  They came back with a survey saying that 72% of Americans say business has too much power.
[01:37:12.370 --> 01:37:19.570]  And a sense of invasiveness, corporations invading into the private parts of our lives, is growing.
[01:37:20.270 --> 01:37:28.930]  And that people feel overworked and underpaid, especially in contrast with the money the Enron-type CEO people run off with.
[01:37:28.930 --> 01:37:35.510]  You know, we have the biggest disparity between worker pay and executive pay of any country in the world now.
[01:37:35.810 --> 01:37:41.610]  And people increasingly feel threatened by the products and services of corporations themselves.
[01:37:42.030 --> 01:37:48.470]  And the huge corporate campaign contributions contribute to corruption and undermine democracy.
[01:37:48.470 --> 01:37:48.650]  democracy.
[01:37:49.150 --> 01:37:54.590]  And this very publication said, corporate America, ignore these trends in your peril.
[01:37:55.050 --> 01:37:57.370]  First, get out of politics.
[01:37:57.810 --> 01:38:04.570]  And start spreading the wealth to more than the kiddie boys and all.
[01:38:04.830 --> 01:38:06.270]  And guess who this was?
[01:38:06.710 --> 01:38:08.110]  Guess who this was?
[01:38:08.670 --> 01:38:10.090]  Business Week.
[01:38:11.670 --> 01:38:12.850]  Covered story.
[01:38:13.350 --> 01:38:15.110]  Too much corporate power.
[01:38:15.110 --> 01:38:16.810]  And they answered yes.
[01:38:17.470 --> 01:38:19.030]  Business Week answered yes.
[01:38:19.070 --> 01:38:21.430]  We are not alone, ladies and gentlemen.
[01:38:22.130 --> 01:38:26.010]  Ralph Nader had great fun with this on the campaign trail too.
[01:38:26.010 --> 01:38:30.450]  This puts Business Week to the left of the Democratic Party.
[01:38:31.370 --> 01:38:32.630]  And he's right.
[01:38:34.370 --> 01:38:47.870]  And even if you don't want to be on the front lines of the shock troops, well, there are other ways of fighting back against corporate power on a one-on-one basis that do make a difference.
[01:38:47.870 --> 01:38:53.870]  And it's also the easiest thing to turn on other people to do it to help fight corporate feudalism.
[01:38:53.870 --> 01:38:56.510]  not capitalism anymore, feudalism.
[01:38:56.910 --> 01:39:02.330]  Starting with, should you choose to do so, maybe I said this last time, I think it's worth saying again.
[01:39:02.970 --> 01:39:11.570]  If you choose to do so, just make a vow to yourself, I'm not going to cooperate with corporate dictatorship anymore.
[01:39:12.330 --> 01:39:14.470]  They can't have it.
[01:39:14.890 --> 01:39:15.290]  They can't
[01:39:18.880 --> 01:39:23.000]  Starting with, don't give them your money.
[01:39:24.860 --> 01:39:38.400]  As much as evenly possible, no more stuff for chain stores, no more chain restaurants, buy as few products made by multinational corporations as possible.
[01:39:39.340 --> 01:39:41.720]  And it's not as hard to do as you think.
[01:39:42.100 --> 01:39:49.840]  Some of us eat and I boycotted McDonald's for 25 years without batting an eye because I think their food sucks.
[01:39:56.600 --> 01:40:02.700]  the more you do it, the more you get addicted to doing more and more and more.
[01:40:02.960 --> 01:40:06.960]  The more you discover the possible, the more it becomes possible.
[01:40:07.380 --> 01:40:18.240]  And I know how hard it is in this day and age to find a job, as Mark was talking about earlier, that actually means anything to you.
[01:40:18.240 --> 01:40:27.220]  Meaningful work, but you can still pay the bills, so you don't wind up being 50 years old and still living in a rat hole with roommates you hate.
[01:40:27.760 --> 01:40:28.820]  That's hard.
[01:40:29.260 --> 01:40:34.040]  But, as much as possible, try not to work for them either.
[01:40:34.480 --> 01:40:40.500]  Don't just not give the FBI your time, your energy, and your talent, your intelligence.
[01:40:40.920 --> 01:40:42.420]  Don't give it to Exxon.
[01:40:42.680 --> 01:40:44.060]  Don't give it to Microsoft.
[01:40:44.060 --> 01:40:49.600]  Don't give it to that crypto-fascist Larry Ellison and what he has in mind.
[01:40:49.900 --> 01:40:51.280]  Don't give it to them.
[01:40:53.240 --> 01:41:03.760]  But if you must work for them, just remember that the digital age is ushering in a whole new frontier of sabotage on the job.
[01:41:10.030 --> 01:41:16.950]  The most important part of spreading this and these first easy steps is not to be a fundamentalist,
[01:41:22.080 --> 01:41:26.200]  much as fundamentalist religious people do, for the same reason.
[01:41:26.380 --> 01:41:32.640]  Seeing everything in black and white and knowing that they have the answer and not leaving your own about it.
[01:41:32.980 --> 01:41:38.640]  I know so many people who start out, you know, when they first see the light, so to speak.
[01:41:38.640 --> 01:41:49.060]  They know, they are more punk then thou, more anarchists then thou, more radical than thou, more file sharing than thou, more anarchists then thou, more vegans then thou, MORE SWAT than thou.
[01:41:49.540 --> 01:41:52.560]  For six months, two years.
[01:41:53.100 --> 01:41:54.360]  Then something happens.
[01:41:55.180 --> 01:42:10.960]  Something begins to set in where not only are they making other people miserable and turning them off to perfectly good ideas, and the process, He had maximum rock and roll and others, but they also, they're making themselves miserable.
[01:42:11.910 --> 01:42:18.380]  But this thing that's black and white, you know, no color, no middle ground, whatever kind of school.
[01:42:18.950 --> 01:42:24.660]  If I don't do everything exactly this way, I'm going to be selling out, man!
[01:42:25.180 --> 01:42:27.740]  And I'm so sick of this, I'm going to sell out!
[01:42:27.880 --> 01:42:28.380]  See ya!
[01:42:28.620 --> 01:42:28.980]  Bye!
[01:42:28.980 --> 01:42:33.600]  I'm going to go work in Silicon Valley, and I'm just going to have one if you beat a boxer.
[01:42:33.840 --> 01:42:34.800]  I'm going to have five!
[01:42:34.980 --> 01:42:35.960]  Fuck you all!
[01:42:36.520 --> 01:42:39.840]  It doesn't have to be that way.
[01:42:40.460 --> 01:43:04.620]  You know, going, you know, maybe just taking a little more time to identify a moral and ethical code and a lifestyle you can actually live with and live up to long term, you're more likely to have to stick with ya instead of being some phase in your wayward youth before you become a Republican nutcase and go work in Washington or for a realtor or something.
[01:43:05.460 --> 01:43:14.400]  You know, and you go this far in the radical meter, instead of this far in the radical meter, it's less likely to turn into a mousetrap or a broken rubber band and go boing!
[01:43:14.760 --> 01:43:19.920]  And there you are, the exact sort of SUV parasite you hated in the first place.
[01:43:20.180 --> 01:43:22.840]  You know, it doesn't have to be that way.
[01:43:23.700 --> 01:43:24.220]  1980s!
[01:43:24.220 --> 01:43:26.620]  What is that?
[01:43:28.380 --> 01:43:30.140]  Hippies to yippies!
[01:43:31.260 --> 01:43:33.380]  You got your history wrong there.
[01:43:33.620 --> 01:43:54.420]  I mean, that's a deep part of me because, you know, I was really into the hippie thing as a kid in my teens and I did feel betrayed, but when people, you know, the spirit that stopped the Vietnam War and watched the civil rights movement and the feminist movement and the environmental movement after the Vietnam War was over,
[01:43:54.580 --> 01:43:55.900]  okay, our job is done.
[01:43:55.900 --> 01:44:01.000]  Let's go mellow out now and make money and listen to the eagles all day.
[01:44:08.420 --> 01:44:13.640]  And one time period is not something I want to do.
[01:44:13.980 --> 01:44:23.700]  I mean, even if those assholes weren't suing me, I would not join their reunion tour because I think that's pissing on everything Dave Kennedy's ever stood for, aren't you?
[01:44:27.500 --> 01:44:31.280]  Enjoying the past, learning from the past.
[01:44:31.900 --> 01:44:35.780]  You know, I like old records too, after all.
[01:44:36.500 --> 01:44:37.580]  It's fine.
[01:44:37.700 --> 01:44:38.680]  We'll get to that in a second.
[01:44:38.820 --> 01:44:39.560]  We're almost done here.
[01:44:39.760 --> 01:44:46.200]  But it's fine, but living in the past and freezing in the past is poison.
[01:44:46.700 --> 01:44:54.400]  And never in a million years did I think the people I'd have the hardest time getting that through to would be punk rockers.
[01:44:56.380 --> 01:44:57.940]  Enough said on that.
[01:44:58.280 --> 01:44:58.560]  Anyway.
[01:45:00.120 --> 01:45:06.040]  Other things for fighting back against corporate power, I do believe in voting and voting smart.
[01:45:06.580 --> 01:45:14.920]  Even if the national elections or the senatorial elections wind up being a joke, watch the local elections and show up.
[01:45:15.420 --> 01:45:16.580]  That's where...
[01:45:17.380 --> 01:45:24.580]  I mean, Giuliani got in because people like us in this town didn't show up to make sure he didn't get in.
[01:45:24.580 --> 01:45:26.380]  Ballot initiatives.
[01:45:26.840 --> 01:45:28.860]  Those are really important to pay attention to.
[01:45:29.160 --> 01:45:34.520]  If it weren't for people like us showing up and voting, medical marijuana would never be passed.
[01:45:34.800 --> 01:45:47.420]  We have to be there to enact living wage laws, rent control laws, environmental rules with teeth that corporate legislatures are too corrupt to enforce or enact anymore.
[01:45:47.420 --> 01:45:57.160]  And the local governments are the ones who decide how to spend all that money, our tax money, that rains down on them from the federal and state governments.
[01:45:57.520 --> 01:46:04.400]  In some smaller towns or suburbs, this can literally mean, should we build a homeless shelter or build a golf course?
[01:46:04.400 --> 01:46:15.620]  And with a school board, it can mean, should we get some computers for poor kids or should we make everybody salute the flag and pray to a Christian God in school every day?
[01:46:17.260 --> 01:46:18.180]  That's why...
[01:46:18.180 --> 01:46:23.400]  I mean, the easiest offices to win are the local ones because people don't show up.
[01:46:23.580 --> 01:46:29.380]  It doesn't just mean that fundamentalist Christian coops like Ashcroft could get in if we don't watch it.
[01:46:29.560 --> 01:46:33.900]  It means people with good ideas could get in if we show up and support them.
[01:46:33.900 --> 01:46:41.980]  And that's how you build a more thinking, progressive movement that's actually inside the government from the ground up.
[01:46:42.300 --> 01:46:45.120]  If the Christian coalitions did it, so can we.
[01:46:45.440 --> 01:46:46.640]  And you've got to show up and play.
[01:46:50.180 --> 01:47:11.080]  And even if you do wind up, become a really, really big dot-com tycoon someday or a fast-track, money-track occupation doctor, lawyer, contractor, dentist, website, genius designer, whatever, one way of giving back to the community is giving back to the community.
[01:47:11.380 --> 01:47:17.120]  You know, provide the service you make so much money from to people who can't afford it for free.
[01:47:22.500 --> 01:47:35.020]  In the Dan Kennedy's Franken-Christ obscenity case over the Franken-Christ album, which I fought with no help from the other band members, I might add, the attorney who represented me on that did it for no fee.
[01:47:35.440 --> 01:47:37.980]  Just like the people who helped Mark in Negativland.
[01:47:38.020 --> 01:47:40.340]  I wasn't so lucky with this Dan Kennedy's lawsuit.
[01:47:40.520 --> 01:47:43.940]  But he said he did it because he wanted to give something back to his profession.
[01:47:44.680 --> 01:47:50.480]  Plus, you know, he had the Porsche, he had the House, but he felt he should be given back to his profession.
[01:47:50.860 --> 01:47:56.320]  And he was sick of people like Tipper Gore and the Reagan administration picking up the Constitution.
[01:47:57.020 --> 01:48:00.640]  Yeah, Tipper, another reason Gore lost the election.
[01:48:00.820 --> 01:48:03.400]  Not even the election, but the election.
[01:48:04.700 --> 01:48:11.960]  And giving something back falls under the umbrella of not forgetting where you came from.
[01:48:11.960 --> 01:48:16.240]  I mean, most of the people here today are younger than I am.
[01:48:16.480 --> 01:48:25.680]  And by the time they're my age, I fear a majority of you will probably become the exact sort of jerks you're not too fond of right now.
[01:48:25.860 --> 01:48:32.100]  But again, all you have to do to prevent this from happening is to not let it happen.
[01:48:32.500 --> 01:48:43.920]  I mean, don't become like the former members of my band or the people who not only fought against the Vietnam War but turned into Bill Clinton or people like that later on.
[01:48:44.140 --> 01:48:46.860]  Tony Blair was a right-on guy in his youth.
[01:48:47.140 --> 01:48:48.220]  Something happened to him.
[01:48:48.360 --> 01:48:49.060]  He let it happen.
[01:48:49.380 --> 01:49:05.260]  Or a better example, how many of you either know or know someone who has a parent who's like, well, your mother and I, we had a great time when we were your age, smoking weed, fucking in the park, causing trouble in the streets.
[01:49:05.500 --> 01:49:09.140]  But now that you're that age, just say no.
[01:49:19.560 --> 01:49:28.920]  The way you avoid becoming that kind of a monster parent is to avoid letting yourself become somebody like that.
[01:49:29.100 --> 01:49:29.920]  It's that simple.
[01:49:30.320 --> 01:49:33.240]  You know, remember years from now, what brought you here?
[01:49:33.460 --> 01:49:34.860]  What's important to you?
[01:49:34.960 --> 01:49:37.900]  What's part of your soul instead of part of your bank account?
[01:49:38.180 --> 01:49:44.980]  I mean, a lot of times the change happens in people when they either have kids and or buy property.
[01:49:44.980 --> 01:49:53.140]  And all of a sudden there's this change where there's something really precious that they have to go all out to protect from them.
[01:49:53.880 --> 01:49:57.160]  I must put all my money in stocks and bonds.
[01:49:57.800 --> 01:50:02.200]  I must not let my child associate with those other people.
[01:50:02.400 --> 01:50:09.880]  So we will take the SUV, which we have because we don't want a little car to wreck our car and hurt our precious artifact child.
[01:50:10.120 --> 01:50:14.780]  We will take them to private school where we scam voucher money to enrich them.
[01:50:16.060 --> 01:50:24.560]  You know, owning a house doesn't necessarily mean you have to become conservative and paranoid and all that.
[01:50:24.760 --> 01:50:26.240]  Same with having kids.
[01:50:26.380 --> 01:50:32.120]  I mean, there's some better ways to raise kids than what we're generally told as a way to raise a kid.
[01:50:32.460 --> 01:50:40.000]  One important thing being, you know, some of you may have kids, a lot more of you will, don't hide reality from your kids.
[01:50:45.220 --> 01:50:57.200]  A lot of these people say they come up for information, hack for information, spread information, because they're hungry for information, because they want to find out what reality is, because they said somebody isn't telling them the truth.
[01:50:57.360 --> 01:50:59.280]  Well, they tell them what reality is.
[01:50:59.820 --> 01:51:19.160]  And another thing that I've noticed, like 44 now, believe it or not, is that a lot of, I noticed this when I, even before I was 30, that a lot of people my age had no tangible visual, personal memory of Vietnam, or even Watergate.
[01:51:19.380 --> 01:51:21.920]  And that stuff was everywhere at the time.
[01:51:21.920 --> 01:51:26.560]  Even in fourth grade, we all had a strong opinion on the Vietnam War.
[01:51:26.980 --> 01:51:31.340]  Watergate, you're in high school, it was only his best soap opera all summer.
[01:51:31.600 --> 01:51:34.580]  Everybody talked about it, and Nixon was going down.
[01:51:35.740 --> 01:51:39.960]  But now, say, oh, I don't remember much of anything from back then.
[01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:42.220]  I guess I had a bad childhood or something.
[01:51:43.300 --> 01:51:47.620]  If you start having a TV commercial they haven't heard in decades, Bing!
[01:51:47.980 --> 01:51:49.220]  They recognize it.
[01:51:49.340 --> 01:51:50.880]  How scary is that?
[01:51:50.880 --> 01:51:55.700]  I don't remember my own childhood, but I watched the Brady Bunch.
[01:51:55.900 --> 01:52:02.080]  I listened to classic rock, as there's even less and less songs on that, thanks to Clear Channel, too.
[01:52:03.260 --> 01:52:19.040]  But the reason that didn't happen to me is because when the bloody footage of the soldiers who've been shot in Vietnam got on the evening news, the race riots of the Afro War in Nigeria, where I got my name, my parents didn't change the channel.
[01:52:19.600 --> 01:52:25.240]  like maybe the well-meaning Eisenhower parents were doing, thinking they didn't want to upset the kids.
[01:52:25.660 --> 01:52:27.120]  They let me see it.
[01:52:27.240 --> 01:52:28.380]  We talked about it.
[01:52:28.460 --> 01:52:31.420]  My sister's even younger, but we all knew what was going on.
[01:52:31.560 --> 01:52:32.900]  It was discussed.
[01:52:33.160 --> 01:52:36.700]  And I learned at an early age what racism is and why it's wrong.
[01:52:36.900 --> 01:52:39.380]  What war really is and why it's wrong.
[01:52:39.380 --> 01:52:46.800]  And this can also be used to teach media literacy, which is so important in an age of corporate sense of media.
[01:52:46.940 --> 01:52:49.240]  You can do this to adults, is what I was saying.
[01:52:50.300 --> 01:52:57.600]  You shouldn't be able to graduate from high school unless you can pass a media literacy test, as far as I'm concerned.
[01:52:57.880 --> 01:53:01.800]  But they're not going to put that in the schools, at least not until I am with her.
[01:53:02.060 --> 01:53:04.920]  So we got to do it ourselves.
[01:53:05.520 --> 01:53:06.660]  And it was easy.
[01:53:06.860 --> 01:53:19.800]  Again, when I was getting my household, it would just be my dad laughing at it and making fun of the commercials, but also taking the time to say, son, see, that woman there, she isn't really that excited about her detergent.
[01:53:19.800 --> 01:53:24.180]  She's a paid actress who's trying to sell you detergent.
[01:53:24.320 --> 01:53:28.660]  Because detergent and soap really aren't all that exciting, aren't they?
[01:53:29.920 --> 01:53:34.600]  And so I applied that bullshit detector to other things.
[01:53:34.840 --> 01:53:37.000]  This is what I'm talking about with media literacy.
[01:53:37.440 --> 01:53:40.020]  Cultivate bullshit detectors in people.
[01:53:40.360 --> 01:53:42.460]  And I applied it to school.
[01:53:42.460 --> 01:53:44.220]  I applied it to my family.
[01:53:44.220 --> 01:53:46.740]  And then the state of siege really began.
[01:53:47.120 --> 01:53:49.400]  But I have no regrets about that.
[01:53:49.400 --> 01:53:55.200]  That more and more, one of the best things you can do for kids is to empower them with a bullshit detector.
[01:53:55.480 --> 01:54:15.120]  So much so that when they become body conscious and teenagers and all, this is especially important for young girls, you know, if you get them to laugh at the fashion fascists and the fashion police long enough, by the time they're teenagers, they're not going to fall for this type of,
[01:54:15.360 --> 01:54:18.180]  if you ain't Britney, you ain't shit.
[01:54:18.180 --> 01:54:28.980]  And therefore, no matter who or what you are, you young girl must always hate your appearance and always be on a diet and always feel inadequate.
[01:54:29.620 --> 01:54:35.400]  If the kids need illiterate, they're not going to believe the hype and say, ha ha, I'd rather be myself.
[01:54:35.580 --> 01:54:35.940]  Bye!
[01:54:48.090 --> 01:54:51.610]  So, on that note, let's see...
[01:54:51.610 --> 01:54:53.250]  The record!
[01:54:53.670 --> 01:54:55.950]  Okay, one more thing before the record.
[01:54:56.710 --> 01:55:05.030]  One of the beauties of the Spirit of Seattle and the anti-corporate movement is there's no magic leader telling everybody else what to do.
[01:55:05.230 --> 01:55:09.410]  We're networking, we're stitching ourselves together, we're doing it ourselves.
[01:55:09.870 --> 01:55:17.890]  No Mandela or Baslav Havel or Subcomandante ski mask on the white horse riding in to lead us to the promised land.
[01:55:18.050 --> 01:55:20.010]  We're doing it ourselves.
[01:55:20.470 --> 01:55:22.330]  We gotta hang on to that.
[01:55:22.510 --> 01:55:30.950]  But, it also means, what would happen if corporate dictatorship had its train wreck right now?
[01:55:31.450 --> 01:55:41.670]  And all of a sudden, the people we're all so sick of, running things badly, weren't there anymore, wouldn't we be ready to run things, take the bull by the horns, and make everything work?
[01:55:42.650 --> 01:55:43.750]  No, that's not...
[01:55:43.750 --> 01:55:45.050]  that's not the solution.
[01:55:47.410 --> 01:55:52.570]  What I'm trying to say to everybody for president, and this is how, is...
[01:55:53.270 --> 01:56:01.910]  There's been a lot of revolutions that have gone down since 1989, and some of them have been pretty damn ugly and haunt us to this day.
[01:56:02.210 --> 01:56:09.250]  The Balkan Peninsula, the former Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Rwanda, Congo, Zimbabwe, you name it.
[01:56:11.010 --> 01:56:11.570]  But...
[01:56:11.570 --> 01:56:14.470]  Well, I don't think it's been an American Revolution since 1989.
[01:56:15.430 --> 01:56:17.750]  God, where did you go to school?
[01:56:18.010 --> 01:56:18.570]  California?
[01:56:22.270 --> 01:56:22.830]  Anyway...
[01:56:23.710 --> 01:56:26.070]  But there are some good examples, too.
[01:56:26.250 --> 01:56:28.770]  Far from perfect, but worth learning from.
[01:56:28.770 --> 01:56:32.590]  The former Czechoslovakia and South Africa.
[01:56:33.210 --> 01:56:38.810]  Both those revolutions, the dictatorships, were brutal, violent, murderous.
[01:56:39.070 --> 01:56:41.530]  When they fell, they fell quickly.
[01:56:42.770 --> 01:56:43.330]  Unexpectedly.
[01:56:43.670 --> 01:56:50.290]  Nobody would have predicted, even three or four days earlier, that the Berlin Wall was about to come down, and then all of a sudden it did.
[01:56:50.810 --> 01:56:52.790]  That was how fast this shit happened.
[01:56:53.030 --> 01:57:04.270]  But at least in those two countries, the hardcore, front-line, radical opposition, not only knew what they didn't like and didn't want, they knew what they did want.
[01:57:04.510 --> 01:57:19.370]  And it put a lot of thought into that to the point of knowing who might have the specialist skills and the intelligence and whatnot to actually run different parts of the apparatus so the country didn't fall apart.
[01:57:19.370 --> 01:57:21.290]  Are we there yet?
[01:57:21.810 --> 01:57:23.550]  I don't think so.
[01:57:24.330 --> 01:57:27.350]  It has gone beyond the most part, this sucks.
[01:57:27.910 --> 01:57:33.490]  But, the way to get beyond that as an individual, first up here, yell jello for president.
[01:57:33.690 --> 01:57:33.950]  No!
[01:57:34.530 --> 01:57:44.050]  Everybody, start from time to time, this is not an egocentric thing to do, start putting your head, you know, start putting your imagination in the hands of these other people.
[01:57:44.050 --> 01:57:47.830]  Okay, what would I do if I was in Bush's shoes right now?
[01:57:47.830 --> 01:57:53.470]  What would I do if I was in the mayor of New York's shoes right now?
[01:57:53.730 --> 01:57:58.130]  What would I do if I was given a chance to reform the FBI?
[01:57:58.750 --> 01:58:04.150]  What would I do if I was in charge of the school curriculum in the town I live in?
[01:58:04.470 --> 01:58:08.670]  What would I do if I was in place of the boss I hate so much at work?
[01:58:09.050 --> 01:58:12.690]  How would I run the place differently and make it work?
[01:58:13.250 --> 01:58:19.290]  You know, this is an ongoing exercise you can do, put on the shelf, do some more where you feel like it's fun, I think.
[01:58:19.770 --> 01:58:24.570]  But anyway, at the very least, you're not going to have all magic answers right away.
[01:58:24.570 --> 01:58:39.910]  You can talk to other people or communicate with other people and find out what, you know, some ideas, but it will have you asking questions, looking for ideas, trying to find solutions instead of just identifying what sucks, and it can't help but make you smarter.
[01:58:40.630 --> 01:59:00.750]  And if that train wreck of corporate rule happens, we are going to need each other and we're going to need smart people because otherwise it's going to be the ditto heads and the people with the stars and bars and the gun racks and the trucks running around playing king of the neighborhood and we will get fooled again.
[01:59:01.450 --> 01:59:11.770]  so, for people who come up to me in a couple days I've been here and other places they do, or if I go and say, oh, you've inspired me so much, oh, you've changed my life.
[01:59:12.490 --> 01:59:15.750]  Wow, the ego likes that a little too much sometimes.
[01:59:16.070 --> 01:59:21.890]  But the point is, whether that really happened or not, now it's your turn.
[01:59:22.630 --> 01:59:25.450]  Thanks for listening and now we'll leave a break.
[01:59:40.030 --> 01:59:40.590]  Whoa!
[01:59:41.090 --> 01:59:41.910]  What other thing?
[01:59:43.230 --> 01:59:56.090]  Because of the way I'm being ripped off and mistreated and pissed on by the former members of my band and their little corporate army of goons, I am appealing that court verdict to a higher court.
[01:59:59.190 --> 02:00:05.990]  And I appreciate the support, but it also is leaving me that many more six figures fast broke.
[02:00:06.690 --> 02:00:14.350]  And, you know, I want my little label alternative tentacles to survive, I want my stuff to be treated with respect.
[02:00:16.390 --> 02:00:19.090]  People tell me, why don't you just forget about it and walk away?
[02:00:19.290 --> 02:00:21.070]  I can't, it means that's too much to me.
[02:00:21.450 --> 02:00:29.150]  But anyway, the appeal is expensive, so, my announcement here is, this is my shoe.
[02:00:30.410 --> 02:00:32.410]  This is my shoe.
[02:00:32.650 --> 02:00:33.490]  I want the socks.
[02:00:34.010 --> 02:00:34.570]  I want the socks.
[02:00:34.690 --> 02:00:35.090]  I want the socks.
[02:00:35.090 --> 02:00:37.290]  Anything, those you need.
[02:00:38.870 --> 02:00:51.870]  Anything put in this shoe goes to the alternative tentacles legal defense fund to fund the appeal and help regain fair use of my own creations and all.
[02:00:51.870 --> 02:01:01.270]  and, I know not everybody has any money and other things need money, so no obligation, but anything put in here, the shoe and I would be very grateful.
[02:01:01.570 --> 02:01:01.810]  Thanks.
[02:01:09.060 --> 02:01:12.820]  But now we're gonna hear the Coca-Cola convention first.
[02:01:19.080 --> 02:01:25.600]  I'm not gonna cue it fancy, I'm just gonna drop the needle because it's the easy way here.
[02:01:29.260 --> 02:01:31.560]  All right, we need noise in the house.
[02:01:43.420 --> 02:01:44.700]  Uh-oh.
[02:01:45.120 --> 02:01:46.760]  Do we have ignition?
[02:01:47.080 --> 02:01:47.940]  We do have ignition.
[02:01:48.760 --> 02:01:50.020]  Other than that presently.
[02:01:51.240 --> 02:01:53.960]  He says we have ignition but not presently.
[02:01:55.560 --> 02:01:57.420]  We're sound checking the...
[02:02:17.220 --> 02:02:19.600]  mode is still on tape here.
[02:02:20.600 --> 02:02:21.500]  No, this is fine.
[02:02:21.680 --> 02:02:22.020]  This is fine.
[02:02:22.220 --> 02:02:23.380]  You sure that's fine?
[02:02:23.600 --> 02:02:24.380]  No, not me at all.
[02:02:24.660 --> 02:02:25.540]  Here, all right.
[02:02:25.740 --> 02:02:25.940]  Hang on.
[02:02:40.560 --> 02:02:41.680]  go on.
[02:03:13.390 --> 02:03:15.930]  This is called Coke Goes With America.
[02:03:18.170 --> 02:03:21.110]  They're not getting to the point fast enough, are they?
[02:03:32.800 --> 02:03:34.860]  Not on this one, only on a Pepsi one.
[02:03:36.180 --> 02:03:37.340]  Here it comes!
[02:03:39.460 --> 02:03:42.940]  My kind of bottling plants I hope I live to see.
[02:03:43.180 --> 02:03:47.060]  And don't have to wait till the pearly gate opens up for me.
[02:03:47.380 --> 02:03:51.300]  When there'll be old St. Peter with my franchise and a key.
[02:03:51.520 --> 02:03:53.980]  Saying, here's where all good bottlers go.
[02:03:54.760 --> 02:03:56.260]  It's heavenly!
[02:03:57.860 --> 02:03:58.480]  Yeehaw!
[02:03:59.580 --> 02:04:02.880]  And that big bottling plant up in the sky.
[02:04:03.960 --> 02:04:07.020]  That big bottling plant up in the sky.
[02:04:08.090 --> 02:04:10.640]  Well, the bottles jump right off the shelves.
[02:04:10.720 --> 02:04:12.460]  And roll right out and sell themselves.
[02:04:12.700 --> 02:04:15.340]  And Coca-Cola's all that people buy.
[02:04:18.380 --> 02:04:21.660]  In that big bottling plant up in the blue.
[02:04:23.160 --> 02:04:25.720]  Every shipment arrives the day it's due.
[02:04:25.860 --> 02:04:26.920]  Yes, sir!
[02:04:27.260 --> 02:04:29.200]  The trucks are always loaded right.
[02:04:29.320 --> 02:04:31.140]  And strikes get settled overnight.
[02:04:31.360 --> 02:04:33.980]  And there's no such a thing as I-O-U.
[02:04:33.980 --> 02:04:37.340]  Hey, when do you deliver the goods?
[02:04:37.460 --> 02:04:39.680]  And it's cash on the line.
[02:04:39.960 --> 02:04:41.700]  Cash on the line.
[02:04:41.960 --> 02:04:43.540]  Cash on the line.
[02:04:43.840 --> 02:04:47.740]  And third-party checks are a capital crime.
[02:04:48.060 --> 02:04:51.040]  And nothing ever springs a leak.
[02:04:51.800 --> 02:04:55.140]  In that big bottling plant away up there.
[02:04:55.720 --> 02:04:59.000]  The weather is always hot and fair.
[02:05:00.020 --> 02:05:02.560]  And folks are thirsty round the clock.
[02:05:02.660 --> 02:05:04.620]  And nothing's ever out of stock.
[02:05:04.720 --> 02:05:07.340]  And every deal is full priced fair and square.
[02:05:07.600 --> 02:05:08.460]  Fair and square.
[02:05:08.800 --> 02:05:11.520]  In that big bottling plant up in the sky.
[02:05:12.420 --> 02:05:14.460]  And there's no FTC.
[02:05:14.800 --> 02:05:16.440]  And there's no EPA.
[02:05:17.340 --> 02:05:18.500]  No FDA.
[02:05:19.340 --> 02:05:20.840]  To spoil your day.
[02:05:21.100 --> 02:05:23.000]  No more alphabet soup.
[02:05:23.260 --> 02:05:25.060]  To turn your hair gray.
[02:05:25.060 --> 02:05:28.100]  And the end's coming to stay for life.
[02:05:28.160 --> 02:05:29.140]  Did you say life?
[02:05:29.200 --> 02:05:30.180]  Yes, I said life!
[02:05:30.400 --> 02:05:30.720]  Yeah!
[02:05:31.140 --> 02:05:34.440]  When you call up Atlanta, you get through.
[02:05:35.320 --> 02:05:38.480]  And it ain't just their hats they're talking through.
[02:05:40.060 --> 02:05:42.160]  Lines adjust to any size.
[02:05:42.220 --> 02:05:44.020]  Bottle that man can divide.
[02:05:44.260 --> 02:05:47.140]  We hope we live to see it before we die.
[02:05:48.720 --> 02:05:50.500]  Behind those pearly gates.
[02:05:51.060 --> 02:05:52.480]  Zero interest rates.
[02:05:52.720 --> 02:05:57.440]  That big bottling plant up in the sky.
[02:06:06.480 --> 02:06:08.940]  Boy, what do they put in Coke?
[02:06:09.880 --> 02:06:10.480]  Coke!
[02:06:11.120 --> 02:06:11.120]  Coke!
[02:06:11.440 --> 02:06:11.720]  Coke!
[02:06:11.760 --> 02:06:12.020]  Coke!
[02:06:12.020 --> 02:06:14.440]  Okay, we have to do this the slow way.
[02:06:14.680 --> 02:06:18.180]  Now we're going to hear one of the Pepsi ones here.
[02:06:20.320 --> 02:06:23.420]  Do you want to hear the anti-Coca-Cola one first?
[02:06:27.360 --> 02:06:29.160]  Okay, I don't know how long.
[02:06:29.320 --> 02:06:29.900]  Let's see.
[02:06:30.400 --> 02:06:32.080]  Is this all the overture?
[02:06:32.180 --> 02:06:33.340]  There's vocals on this.
[02:06:35.380 --> 02:06:35.860]  Okay.
[02:06:53.820 --> 02:06:55.680]  This might still be the overture.
[02:07:00.540 --> 02:07:02.900]  How'd you like to write one of these for a living?
[02:07:03.920 --> 02:07:05.960]  This is still the overture.
[02:07:08.180 --> 02:07:09.620]  Come on now.
[02:07:14.600 --> 02:07:15.860]  Come on.
[02:07:16.520 --> 02:07:17.300]  Eating
[02:07:23.580 --> 02:07:26.360]  Pepsi bottlers coast to coast.
[02:07:28.060 --> 02:07:33.580]  We're glad you're here to join us in our great symbolic toast.
[02:07:33.580 --> 02:07:38.480]  To a year that was absolutely unbelievable.
[02:07:39.400 --> 02:07:41.480]  Positively incredible.
[02:07:42.360 --> 02:07:44.480]  In a word inconceivable.
[02:07:46.140 --> 02:07:49.880]  To put it very simply and succinct.
[02:07:51.940 --> 02:07:57.080]  It was the year the competition blinked.
[02:08:02.390 --> 02:08:05.190]  And in that big cup and high.
[02:08:06.190 --> 02:08:08.470]  Suddenly a new ball game.
[02:08:08.770 --> 02:08:12.570]  So Pepsi stepped up to bat and hit a home run.
[02:08:14.690 --> 02:08:19.950]  For eighty-seven long years the game had been eyeball to eyeball.
[02:08:20.630 --> 02:08:23.550]  And when they fumbled and flopped.
[02:08:24.210 --> 02:08:26.770]  Pepsi couldn't be stopped.
[02:08:27.170 --> 02:08:29.690]  In the blink of an eye.
[02:08:30.510 --> 02:08:32.950]  Suddenly a new horse race.
[02:08:32.950 --> 02:08:35.370]  And being thoroughbreds.
[02:08:35.410 --> 02:08:37.110]  We won't quit till we've won.
[02:08:39.450 --> 02:08:44.790]  And everyone on the team agrees that our future's just begun.
[02:08:45.650 --> 02:08:47.210]  Thanks to the wink of...
[02:08:48.670 --> 02:08:51.030]  One little blink of an eye.
[02:08:51.030 --> 02:08:52.770]  One little blink of an eye.
[02:08:53.130 --> 02:08:53.250]  Blink!
[02:08:53.490 --> 02:08:56.850]  First there was old coke that seemed as good as gold coke.
[02:08:56.970 --> 02:08:58.910]  But no one said leave well enough alone.
[02:08:58.910 --> 02:09:01.910]  So some Atlanta smarty came up with new coke.
[02:09:01.990 --> 02:09:03.570]  A hardly tried and true coke.
[02:09:03.590 --> 02:09:05.630]  And made believe it was a Pepsi club.
[02:09:05.910 --> 02:09:07.330]  But no one else agreed so back.
[02:09:07.510 --> 02:09:08.570]  Now came old coke.
[02:09:08.630 --> 02:09:10.170]  A welcome to the fold coke.
[02:09:10.270 --> 02:09:12.270]  While new coke simply sat there on the shelves.
[02:09:12.390 --> 02:09:13.650]  And in the press they shouted.
[02:09:13.670 --> 02:09:15.190]  Aren't we the bright ones?
[02:09:15.230 --> 02:09:16.790]  Our two cokes are the right ones.
[02:09:16.830 --> 02:09:18.770]  While privately they tried to kick themselves.
[02:09:18.930 --> 02:09:19.990]  But not quite hard enough.
[02:09:19.990 --> 02:09:21.670]  So now they had new coke.
[02:09:21.770 --> 02:09:23.330]  A brand new matcha dew coke.
[02:09:23.350 --> 02:09:25.390]  With classic as a gimmick up their sleeve.
[02:09:25.550 --> 02:09:28.190]  But customers are wondering which coke is which coke.
[02:09:28.190 --> 02:09:29.450]  I think I'd like to switch.
[02:09:29.690 --> 02:09:31.770]  Cook the whole thing's too confusing to believe.
[02:09:31.970 --> 02:09:33.650]  And then of course they brought us diet.
[02:09:33.830 --> 02:09:34.470]  Classic diet.
[02:09:34.630 --> 02:09:36.130]  New coke begging us to try it.
[02:09:36.190 --> 02:09:38.330]  New coke not to mention cherry new or old.
[02:09:38.390 --> 02:09:39.570]  I really can't recall.
[02:09:39.730 --> 02:09:41.350]  Is caffeine free coke the anti coke.
[02:09:41.530 --> 02:09:42.970]  Or the cola of the weak coke.
[02:09:43.050 --> 02:09:44.810]  Meanwhile new coke isn't taking whole.
[02:09:44.950 --> 02:09:46.710]  Which means the public's asking which coke.
[02:09:46.790 --> 02:09:47.850]  Old or new is real coke.
[02:09:47.970 --> 02:09:49.470]  Maybe they should just repeal coke.
[02:09:49.570 --> 02:09:51.330]  Think of the confusion it would end.
[02:09:51.350 --> 02:09:53.530]  Just when we figured out that old cokes make cokes.
[02:09:53.610 --> 02:09:54.390]  New cokes fake cokes.
[02:09:54.470 --> 02:09:56.010]  New cokes really are mistake cokes.
[02:09:56.050 --> 02:09:57.770]  Why not take them all and make a blend?
[02:09:57.770 --> 02:10:00.510]  But wait we can't forget that old coke now is new coke.
[02:10:00.530 --> 02:10:02.110]  Since it made a new debut coke.
[02:10:02.250 --> 02:10:04.770]  While consumers everywhere are drawing blanks.
[02:10:04.770 --> 02:10:08.690]  But whatever else you do coke.
[02:10:09.340 --> 02:10:15.030]  With your has been coke or new coke.
[02:10:16.630 --> 02:10:18.870]  When you blinked.
[02:10:19.010 --> 02:10:22.950]  You earned our everlasting thanks.
[02:10:25.460 --> 02:10:28.410]  And in the blink of an eye.
[02:10:28.410 --> 02:10:30.950]  It's a brand new beginning.
[02:10:30.950 --> 02:10:31.470]  It's a brand new beginning.
[02:10:31.890 --> 02:10:36.010]  With Pepsi ready to show the other guys how.
[02:10:38.050 --> 02:10:39.870]  So hang on tight.
[02:10:40.030 --> 02:10:41.750]  Cause we're on the launch pad.
[02:10:41.890 --> 02:10:44.190]  For future stars right now.
[02:10:45.250 --> 02:10:46.670]  Thanks to the wink of.
[02:10:48.190 --> 02:10:49.930]  One little blink of an.
[02:10:50.310 --> 02:10:51.210]  One blink.
[02:10:51.550 --> 02:10:52.430]  One blink.
[02:10:53.410 --> 02:10:53.890]  Blink.
[02:10:55.110 --> 02:10:55.590]  Blink.
[02:10:56.230 --> 02:10:56.470]  Blink.
[02:10:56.850 --> 02:10:57.330]  Blink.
[02:10:58.050 --> 02:10:58.530]  Blink.
[02:10:58.710 --> 02:10:58.930]  Blink.
[02:10:59.130 --> 02:10:59.130]  Blink.
[02:10:59.210 --> 02:10:59.370]  Blink.
[02:11:17.470 --> 02:11:28.750]  We'll hear a little bit of the Pepsi universe, too, but there's a lot less lyrics, so it might be a long musical interlude that not all of us want to hear.
[02:11:29.010 --> 02:11:30.330]  There,
[02:11:33.440 --> 02:12:28.280]  it's a Pepsi universe Thriving since time began On a steady course At a steady pace Bringing pleasure everywhere All through time and space And appear In the Pepsi enterprise We have One perfect plan To bring Pepsi refreshment To all constellations And if anyone can succeed Indeed,
[02:12:28.940 --> 02:12:31.620]  we know we can.
[02:12:35.420 --> 02:12:38.280]  It's all there on.
[02:12:39.380 --> 02:12:41.330]  It's these pages.
[02:12:42.620 --> 02:12:46.280]  One refreshment.
[02:12:49.940 --> 02:12:50.660]  Yes!
[02:12:50.940 --> 02:12:55.320]  Pepsi is the universal refreshment, but has it always been that way, Professor?
[02:12:55.320 --> 02:12:57.480]  As far as I can remember.
[02:12:57.860 --> 02:13:27.640]  We are proud that the Pepsi Enterprise never ever stand still Cause the company's working side by side with our toddlers And if anyone can succeed We know we win
[02:13:32.820 --> 02:13:33.860]  Enough!
[02:13:38.750 --> 02:13:42.070]  Imagine having to perform in this thing.
[02:13:45.400 --> 02:13:49.720]  It was the people who wrote this laughing or crying.
[02:13:50.700 --> 02:13:53.540]  I thought I was gonna be on Broadway.
[02:13:54.300 --> 02:13:56.820]  I could have been a contender.
[02:13:57.940 --> 02:13:58.960]  All right.
[02:14:07.910 --> 02:14:09.190]  Yeah, okay.
[02:14:09.850 --> 02:14:11.170]  I think it's track four.
[02:14:14.860 --> 02:14:17.400]  What a life.
[02:14:18.040 --> 02:14:19.000]  What a guy.
[02:14:19.620 --> 02:14:23.260]  How the time goes rushing by.
[02:14:24.420 --> 02:14:27.080]  I love it.
[02:14:27.200 --> 02:14:30.880]  Wouldn't change it at all.
[02:14:30.880 --> 02:14:31.200]  It's time to go on!
[02:14:34.970 --> 02:14:48.350]  Cause the dealer's wife is a woman through and through Yes, an ex on wife is a woman through and through Helping out my baby.
[02:14:48.470 --> 02:15:07.710]  Cause I love him, I do Kissin' me in the morning, making things alright Keepin' house all day, keepin' books all night Because our dealer's wife is a woman through and I do.
[02:15:09.410 --> 02:15:15.610]  And when he wears the tuna they take my sack..
[02:15:15.930 --> 02:15:19.690]  our dealer's wife is a woman through and I do.
[02:15:26.650 --> 02:15:32.610]  I can get the oil and grease out of 44 shirts and get them out there hanging on the line.
[02:15:32.750 --> 02:15:38.430]  And I can do an overhaul on the kitchen and make it truly shine.
[02:15:38.770 --> 02:15:44.230]  And I can run down, check out the station to see if that good old station is clean.
[02:15:44.230 --> 02:15:49.890]  And I can fuss all around the place for dust and dirt while I'm the image program queen.
[02:15:50.450 --> 02:15:55.930]  I can write up a thousand customer follow-up cards while I'm cooking up a lunch.
[02:15:56.150 --> 02:16:01.630]  And I can give up a holiday to pump some gas when it comes down to the crunch.
[02:16:01.630 --> 02:16:07.350]  And I can cheer up Harry when he comes home and his octane's mighty low.
[02:16:07.750 --> 02:16:13.190]  And I can give him the premium attention he needs that makes a man get up and go.
[02:16:13.410 --> 02:16:17.330]  What I'm saying is this dealer's wife is a full-service island.
[02:16:20.030 --> 02:16:22.870]  When I take my coffee, he makes no never mind.
[02:16:23.130 --> 02:16:25.650]  Doesn't really matter, I am last in line.
[02:16:26.010 --> 02:16:28.610]  Harry keeps complaining, doesn't bother me.
[02:16:28.830 --> 02:16:31.410]  He works so hard and long, I understand, you see.
[02:16:31.410 --> 02:16:35.210]  Because a dealer's wife is a woman through and through.
[02:16:37.170 --> 02:16:41.090]  Yes, an Exxon wife is a woman through and through.
[02:16:43.490 --> 02:16:47.070]  Helping out my bank fee, because I love him, I do.
[02:16:49.290 --> 02:16:51.950]  That's the way it is, it's the only way to be.
[02:16:52.170 --> 02:16:55.850]  Because a dealer's wife is a woman like me.
[02:16:55.850 --> 02:16:57.890]  I love him, I love him, I love him,
[02:17:15.510 --> 02:17:17.530]  I love him, I love him.
[02:17:23.870 --> 02:17:26.670]  Okay, the General Electric one.
[02:17:27.290 --> 02:17:33.930]  Are we gonna hear witchcraft, or are we gonna hear—oh wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, it's on the other one.
[02:17:38.000 --> 02:17:38.960]  Let's try...
[02:17:40.580 --> 02:17:43.360]  How to make a woman out of your wife.
[02:17:43.360 --> 02:17:49.220]  We're actually... we'll do Satan first, because it's a short one.
[02:17:57.540 --> 02:18:02.480]  Poor little devil doesn't feel well.
[02:18:02.800 --> 02:18:07.860]  They made a heaven out of his hell.
[02:18:08.440 --> 02:18:15.760]  Ooh, since they made it electric.
[02:18:17.540 --> 02:18:18.420]  That's true.
[02:18:18.600 --> 02:18:20.000]  Don't look so glum, Mr. Devil.
[02:18:20.000 --> 02:18:21.380]  I mean, look at it this way.
[02:18:22.300 --> 02:18:26.260]  You've got a rapid transit that crosses the river Styx.
[02:18:26.400 --> 02:18:27.880]  Isn't that heaven?
[02:18:28.880 --> 02:18:29.780]  Isn't that...
[02:18:29.780 --> 02:18:31.000]  Uh-uh, please, sir.
[02:18:31.140 --> 02:18:32.200]  Watch your language.
[02:18:32.620 --> 02:18:36.440]  No more those fiery furnaces I used to love to fix.
[02:18:36.680 --> 02:18:38.020]  Isn't it heaven?
[02:18:38.760 --> 02:18:39.980]  I think it's...
[02:18:39.980 --> 02:18:41.120]  Uh-uh, please, sir.
[02:18:41.260 --> 02:18:42.360]  Watch your language.
[02:18:42.720 --> 02:18:44.700]  I'm feeling like the devil.
[02:18:44.880 --> 02:18:46.560]  Just why did we have to meet?
[02:18:47.680 --> 02:18:51.220]  I'll tell you on the level that my joy is shameless.
[02:18:51.260 --> 02:18:52.680]  Your heat is flameless.
[02:18:52.680 --> 02:18:56.840]  I liked my kingdom better before you performed your tricks.
[02:18:56.980 --> 02:18:58.660]  Then it was heaven.
[02:18:58.660 --> 02:18:59.360]  No.
[02:18:59.600 --> 02:19:00.760]  Then it was hell.
[02:19:00.900 --> 02:19:01.280]  What?
[02:19:01.500 --> 02:19:02.000]  Hell.
[02:19:02.140 --> 02:19:02.420]  What?
[02:19:02.780 --> 02:19:03.200]  Hell.
[02:19:03.440 --> 02:19:03.840]  Hell.
[02:19:04.080 --> 02:19:04.260]  Hell.
[02:19:04.260 --> 02:19:04.260]  Hell.
[02:19:04.340 --> 02:19:05.260]  Watch your language.
[02:19:25.320 --> 02:19:29.220]  If this exam were meant to grade, I'd get an A, I know.
[02:19:30.460 --> 02:19:33.860]  In Fahrenheit or centigrade, look what you've got now.
[02:19:33.960 --> 02:19:35.200]  Or it's a hot clown.
[02:19:35.200 --> 02:19:39.220]  I'm overstocking shovels and up to my ears in picks.
[02:19:39.480 --> 02:19:41.080]  What do you expect me to have?
[02:19:41.200 --> 02:19:42.120]  A fire sale?
[02:19:42.340 --> 02:19:44.440]  Oh, that would be heaven.
[02:19:45.680 --> 02:19:46.800]  Perfectly heaven.
[02:19:47.360 --> 02:19:49.020]  No, that would be hell.
[02:19:49.220 --> 02:19:49.600]  What?
[02:19:50.200 --> 02:19:51.460]  That would be hell.
[02:19:51.660 --> 02:19:52.000]  What?
[02:19:52.580 --> 02:19:56.460]  That would be hell, hell, hell, hell, hell, hell.
[02:19:57.100 --> 02:19:58.620]  Girls, don't let him talk to you that way.
[02:19:58.740 --> 02:19:59.260]  Give him hell.
[02:20:02.050 --> 02:20:05.990]  Fifty-fifty chance that was Valerie Harper singing, too.
[02:20:08.230 --> 02:20:16.290]  Gotta tell Emmanuel that the next H2K is gonna need better entertainment now that the trail has been lit.
[02:20:16.310 --> 02:20:18.930]  I know your thoughtful husbands, the types who never fail.
[02:20:19.230 --> 02:20:21.810]  But are your women women?
[02:20:22.330 --> 02:20:25.610]  By that I mean female.
[02:20:26.690 --> 02:20:31.150]  I have a little magic to help transform your pal.
[02:20:31.690 --> 02:20:36.150]  It could make Sophia Loren out of any normal gal.
[02:20:37.050 --> 02:20:46.790]  So if you'll watch me closely, oh, not that close, I'll tell you of wonders that will make each day joyous Noel.
[02:20:50.130 --> 02:20:52.250]  Light up the tree.
[02:20:52.550 --> 02:20:54.130]  Fill up the sleigh.
[02:20:54.330 --> 02:20:58.650]  Make Christmas Day be every day.
[02:21:04.150 --> 02:21:08.310]  Give yourself a Christmas present, mister.
[02:21:09.490 --> 02:21:13.850]  Get the greatest eyeful of your life.
[02:21:14.990 --> 02:21:24.510]  Let a thousand and one electric servants make a woman out of your wife.
[02:21:25.690 --> 02:21:34.470]  Though she may be longing to be tender, mister, she's the tender of your house.
[02:21:35.450 --> 02:21:39.010]  Start her feeling she's feminine all over.
[02:21:40.170 --> 02:21:44.310]  Make a sweet heart out of your spouse.
[02:21:45.630 --> 02:21:50.370]  She'll supply the glamour, that's if you supply the meat.
[02:21:50.790 --> 02:21:54.610]  This is written by the people who wrote Cabaret, he tells me.
[02:21:54.610 --> 02:21:56.470]  Let a thousand and one electric servants make a woman out of your wife.
[02:21:56.470 --> 02:22:06.350]  Even though the honeymoon is over, spend the newest new year of your life.
[02:22:07.210 --> 02:22:17.150]  Let a thousand and one electric comforts put the fan pedal back in your favorite gown.
[02:22:17.150 --> 02:22:21.130]  Make a woman out of your wife.
[02:22:21.130 --> 02:22:21.750]  Make a woman out of your wife.
[02:22:23.890 --> 02:22:26.170]  Light up the lights.
[02:22:26.970 --> 02:22:30.490]  Those kitchen brides.
[02:22:34.790 --> 02:22:38.970]  Elegant, dramatic, and inviting.
[02:22:40.910 --> 02:22:46.230]  Makes her want to wear an evening gown.
[02:22:48.450 --> 02:22:52.590]  Dining right at home can be exciting.
[02:22:54.170 --> 02:22:59.730]  Like an evening out on the town.
[02:23:00.870 --> 02:23:04.610]  Something more than just a place to cook in.
[02:23:05.450 --> 02:23:08.670]  Something seems to give her more allure.
[02:23:09.850 --> 02:23:17.990]  When she's cooking, you can't resist to look in on Signora with much amour.
[02:23:18.830 --> 02:23:19.150]  Get out of here.
[02:23:19.310 --> 02:23:24.230]  This is not la kitchen of manana, as they say.
[02:23:24.750 --> 02:23:27.090]  All of this is here and now.
[02:23:27.330 --> 02:23:28.090]  Comprende?
[02:23:28.410 --> 02:23:29.310]  It's today.
[02:23:30.610 --> 02:23:34.750]  Wave the wand beyond her fondest wishes.
[02:23:36.710 --> 02:23:40.630]  Gaze at her and feel a sense of pride.
[02:23:41.090 --> 02:23:42.230]  It's half over.
[02:23:42.410 --> 02:23:43.390]  Should we hear the rest?
[02:23:43.670 --> 02:23:46.190]  Watch her weaving her all electric magic.
[02:23:59.410 --> 02:24:00.370]  Something else.
[02:24:00.610 --> 02:24:02.430]  Every city has its downtown area.
[02:24:02.630 --> 02:24:04.430]  The place where it's all happening.
[02:24:04.710 --> 02:24:07.530]  The bright lights, the fun, and the crazy times.
[02:24:07.970 --> 02:24:10.430]  Why don't you go downtown for a little action?
[02:24:10.790 --> 02:24:12.090]  That's where they're waiting.
[02:24:12.430 --> 02:24:13.730]  Main Street Women.
[02:24:13.730 --> 02:24:15.630]  Main Street Women.
[02:24:15.910 --> 02:24:21.110]  The motion picture that lets you in behind the scenes on what's really going on in a big city.
[02:24:21.390 --> 02:24:25.330]  The girls, the bars, and the tough guys who run it all.
[02:24:25.570 --> 02:24:26.850]  Main Street Women.
[02:24:27.310 --> 02:24:34.010]  You'll go into those private apartments where girls use all their energies just to please a man in every way.
[02:24:34.430 --> 02:24:35.770]  Main Street Women.
[02:24:36.130 --> 02:24:40.910]  It's all happening now in the year's most shocking look at today's wild lifestyles.
[02:24:41.710 --> 02:24:42.730]  Don't miss it.
[02:24:42.970 --> 02:24:44.350]  Main Street Women.
[02:24:44.710 --> 02:24:46.750]  In color rated R for adults.
[02:24:47.090 --> 02:24:49.290]  No one under 17 admitted without parent.
[02:24:49.790 --> 02:24:54.530]  From independent to international, Main Street Women want you.
[02:25:18.710 --> 02:25:21.410]  The other day a charity guy came to me.
[02:25:22.550 --> 02:25:27.190]  And he said that I should give him some money for all of the sick people in the hospitals.
[02:25:27.190 --> 02:25:37.590]  He said that at any given time there are something like three or four hundred thousand people in this country alone who are in comas and who can't take care of themselves.
[02:25:37.590 --> 02:25:39.570]  And I got to thinking.
[02:25:40.090 --> 02:25:41.270]  They can't.
[02:25:42.590 --> 02:25:44.250]  Or they won't.
[02:25:48.960 --> 02:25:52.830]  They don't work and they don't sweat.
[02:25:53.220 --> 02:25:56.670]  And they don't pay no taxes yet.
[02:25:57.040 --> 02:26:01.570]  And they won't lift a finger for themselves.
[02:26:04.520 --> 02:26:08.460]  Still they've got enough to eat.
[02:26:08.700 --> 02:26:12.570]  And life for them is such a treat.
[02:26:12.570 --> 02:26:18.490]  They're hiding in their comas all day long.
[02:26:20.880 --> 02:26:22.440]  Coma bums.
[02:26:22.520 --> 02:26:24.860]  Ain't you got no pride hey.
[02:26:25.120 --> 02:26:26.280]  Coma bums.
[02:26:26.280 --> 02:26:28.040]  Don't it hurt inside.
[02:26:28.040 --> 02:26:35.650]  And don't you know that it's just not right to be hiding in your coma like a parasite?
[02:26:36.230 --> 02:26:45.780]  Well, I don't mind paying my taxes, but I don't want to be supporting a bunch of coma bums.
[02:26:47.700 --> 02:26:55.090]  Late at night, at the end of day, the coma bums all go out and play.
[02:26:55.090 --> 02:27:02.050]  They laugh and they smoke and they hoop it up and they charge it all to us.
[02:27:03.050 --> 02:27:10.380]  Very next morning they're in bed again, and nobody knows just where they've been.
[02:27:10.730 --> 02:27:17.880]  Hiding in their comas with smiles on their faces, cause they think they're pulling a fast one on me.
[02:27:17.880 --> 02:27:22.310]  Coma bums, ain't you got no pride, hey?
[02:27:22.800 --> 02:27:25.540]  Coma bums, don't it hurt inside?
[02:27:26.300 --> 02:27:32.940]  And don't you know that it's just not right to be hiding in your coma like a parasite?
[02:27:32.940 --> 02:27:43.310]  Well, I don't mind paying my taxes, but I don't want to be supporting a bunch of coma bums.
[02:27:44.940 --> 02:27:47.250]  They fall at their nonsense,
[02:27:52.760 --> 02:27:59.640]  pull them out of the hospitals, and leave them out in the rain.
[02:28:01.000 --> 02:28:07.920]  Coma bums would find it strange if they had to pull their own weight for a change.
[02:28:07.920 --> 02:28:14.760]  Here in America, nobody's entitled to any more than he earns.
[02:28:15.620 --> 02:28:19.840]  Coma bums, ain't you got no pride, hey?
[02:28:20.120 --> 02:28:22.980]  Coma bums, don't it hurt inside?
[02:28:22.980 --> 02:28:30.220]  And don't you know that it's just not right to be hiding in your coma like a parasite?
[02:28:31.260 --> 02:28:40.220]  Well, I don't mind paying my taxes, but I don't want to be supporting a bunch of coma bums.
[02:28:40.220 --> 02:28:40.720]  Coma bums.
[02:28:52.620 --> 02:28:53.700]  Had enough?
[02:28:55.820 --> 02:28:56.920]  I have.
[02:28:58.280 --> 02:29:00.180]  See you next time.
[02:29:03.820 --> 02:29:09.600]  And remember, if you work for one of these people, this is the culture that awaits you.
[02:29:10.680 --> 02:29:13.380]  They might have volleyball now, but still.
[02:31:11.030 --> 02:31:17.550]  All we can do is try to publicize the facts, not what the government is saying, but the facts, And this is the first sentence.