[00:43.050 --> 00:45.730] Okay, welcome at the lockpick workshop. [00:47.270 --> 00:50.150] Sorry about the delay, but there's not much we could do about that. [00:51.090 --> 00:54.450] But we're here anyway, you're there, so let's get it started. [00:55.990 --> 01:03.690] When I start talking about lockpicking, I want to explain how it works, but also it's important that... [01:03.710 --> 01:07.050] You understand that this is not a technique to break into houses. [01:07.970 --> 01:08.850] There is... No, really. [01:09.030 --> 01:10.750] I mean, people always laugh and I tell this. [01:11.250 --> 01:15.530] I will give some examples on how to break into a house because all the burglars know. [01:16.810 --> 01:22.930] And then you understand that lockpicking is more a sport than that it's useful of doing illegal stuff. [01:23.950 --> 01:27.530] My name is Barry, I'm the key, and this is Hans, Unicorn. [01:27.770 --> 01:28.110] Right. [01:28.990 --> 01:41.630] We're both from Holland, and we are members of the Dutch sport group NVHS, which is a funny name if you're Dutch, but you're not, so you don't understand. [01:44.830 --> 01:55.130] Okay, well, in Holland you have something called the NVSH, and that's the club that does the sexual revolution. [01:56.330 --> 02:00.250] So, when you have the NVHS people say, are you into the NVHS? [02:00.430 --> 02:02.370] But they think something else. [02:05.490 --> 02:07.710] Anyway, well, let's start, right? [02:07.710 --> 02:09.510] Yeah, I think we should start. [02:11.570 --> 02:14.070] Like Barry already said, we are not criminals. [02:14.450 --> 02:17.290] We are only interested in solving puzzles. [02:17.610 --> 02:21.490] And basically, a lock is just another kind of puzzle, right? [02:26.030 --> 02:32.630] If you are interested in solving puzzles, you can do it in two ways. [02:32.630 --> 02:35.430] You can do it all by yourself, which is quite lonely. [02:35.770 --> 02:42.170] Or you can create a sporting group, and do it together, and learn from each other. [02:42.870 --> 02:45.450] And that's what we have done in the Netherlands. [02:47.070 --> 02:57.110] We basically copied some things from the Germans, who are actually doing it much longer already. [02:57.110 --> 03:01.910] And they even have championships in picking locks, in opening locks. [03:04.910 --> 03:18.890] Where to start from that is, if you want to pick a lock, if you want to solve that puzzle, you actually have to understand how a lock actually works, right? [03:18.890 --> 03:26.510] How many of you in this room know how a basic lock works? [03:28.250 --> 03:30.610] Well, that's quite amazing. [03:30.850 --> 03:32.050] Quite amazing, indeed. [03:32.710 --> 03:41.830] But still, for the other about 75%, we might go into detail just a little bit more. [03:41.830 --> 03:49.430] And to do that, we have, well, we can do it either by showing a lock or showing some pictures. [03:49.970 --> 03:50.230] Okay. [03:51.850 --> 03:58.430] I think before we do that, we explain a little bit more about the breaking and entering part. [03:59.670 --> 04:00.790] What we are not teaching. [04:00.790 --> 04:01.710] What we are not teaching. [04:02.050 --> 04:02.330] Okay. [04:02.330 --> 04:10.370] This is what they call a lock cylinder that's very popular in Europe, and therefore it's called the Euro cylinder. [04:11.390 --> 04:14.870] And it's being put in the door, like this. [04:15.110 --> 04:19.230] And there's one screw, one big, long screw holding it in the door. [04:20.250 --> 04:25.470] And the good thing about this is that when you buy a lock, you can easily replace it. [04:25.470 --> 04:32.870] You open your door, you remove the screw, put another lock in, put the screw back in, and you change the lock. [04:33.050 --> 04:36.150] And that's more easy than any other system there is. [04:36.570 --> 04:42.250] The bad part is that there's only a small piece of metal where the screw is in. [04:42.830 --> 04:55.190] And actually, it's so thin that you can see the hole here, that the burglars found out that if you just drive a screw in here, and you pull it, the lock will break. [04:55.650 --> 04:58.710] So, this is an example of that. [04:59.330 --> 05:02.890] Just, the lock is completely broken off. [05:03.630 --> 05:07.230] And there are special extraction tools, but also homemade tools. [05:07.410 --> 05:13.150] So, anyone who's interested in burglary, just get a screw, drive it into the lock, and you can just pull it out. [05:13.510 --> 05:24.030] Also, if the lock sticks out a little bit, you can just grab it with some heavy pliers, put some force on it, and the lock, it's really a tiny piece of metal that's actually holding it. [05:24.670 --> 05:30.750] So, that's how people break into houses without making noise within five minutes. [05:31.050 --> 05:41.850] So, lock picking will take you, if you're interested, it will take you a lot of time before you actually are at the level that you can open almost any lock, if you ever get to that level. [05:41.850 --> 05:53.050] And even if you're real good, it will still take you at least four, five, six months of daily spending two, three hours, to open 50% of the locks within 15 minutes. [05:53.410 --> 05:57.230] So, it's not a good thing for burglars. [05:57.370 --> 06:06.310] So, that's always what I explain first, to show that the technique is not useful for burglary, because there's other things for that. [06:07.670 --> 06:13.530] Another technique used by burglars is, of course, drilling a hole into the lock, [06:17.030 --> 06:26.550] eliminating the pressure on the pins inside, and then you can turn the cylinder and open the door as well. [06:26.850 --> 06:31.170] And that's, again, much easier to do than actually picking a lock. [06:32.770 --> 06:37.370] But we are not giving a burglary school, so let's go to the sport types. [06:37.990 --> 06:44.730] No, but seriously, I mean, people think that everything is quite secure, but it's not. [06:44.930 --> 06:47.410] It's so easy to get into a house that... [06:47.410 --> 06:57.270] There are, of course, locks available on the European market that have protection against that, but I will show that later on when I come to the special high-security locks. [06:57.930 --> 06:58.410] Okay. [06:59.090 --> 06:59.870] Start with a lock. [06:59.870 --> 07:00.250] Yeah. [07:02.410 --> 07:06.310] I don't think we have enough focus to actually show you the pins. [07:07.850 --> 07:09.850] This is about as good as it can get. [07:10.170 --> 07:18.810] And it's really a shame, because this model is completely open, so if you would have been close up, you could actually see all the pins and what it does. [07:20.030 --> 07:22.030] So I have to try something else. [07:29.130 --> 07:30.430] That also doesn't work. [07:31.670 --> 07:36.970] And then I have the MIT Lockpicking Guide as a backup, so I'll have to pick that then. [07:40.970 --> 07:46.530] By the way, the MIT Guide to Lockpicking is available on the internet at several URLs. [07:46.530 --> 07:53.950] So if you just go to your favorite search engine, type in MIT Guide to Lockpicking, and you will find it. [07:54.070 --> 07:55.830] No doubt about it. [08:04.880 --> 08:06.280] Can everybody see this? [08:07.080 --> 08:07.520] No. [08:07.520 --> 08:07.660] No. [08:07.940 --> 08:08.220] Okay. [08:10.460 --> 08:10.860] Okay. [08:10.980 --> 08:12.080] I'll go into text mode then. [08:16.400 --> 08:22.280] When you have a lock, it's actually a cylinder that moves into... [08:22.280 --> 08:23.400] Let's see, where is it? [08:27.750 --> 08:28.270] Hmm. [08:40.390 --> 08:41.150] There you go. [08:41.750 --> 08:51.070] It's actually a cylinder that, if the key is right, it can rotate in the core? [08:51.410 --> 08:51.790] Is it the base? [08:51.990 --> 08:52.490] The base. [08:52.550 --> 08:53.950] The base of the lock. [08:54.190 --> 08:55.770] And this is what we want to achieve. [08:55.930 --> 08:58.810] We want to achieve that we can rotate the inner cylinder. [08:59.710 --> 09:03.870] The inner cylinder has five holes drilled in them. [09:03.870 --> 09:06.330] And in these five holes are pins. [09:06.710 --> 09:08.470] And they're just tiny little pins. [09:09.970 --> 09:14.910] And when a key is inserted to that lock, the pin will be moved up. [09:15.410 --> 09:16.090] Oh, out. [09:18.270 --> 09:18.990] Moved up. [09:19.410 --> 09:27.210] And if the pin is at the level where the core of the lock is, then it can turn. [09:27.470 --> 09:29.470] If it is too high, it will stick out. [09:29.670 --> 09:31.910] And inside here is a little hole as well. [09:31.910 --> 09:34.630] And if it is too high, it will jam. [09:35.170 --> 09:36.530] And that's the basic idea. [09:37.410 --> 09:44.430] That all the five pins have to be aligned at the same height where the two, what they call the sheer line. [09:45.070 --> 09:47.730] And when you achieve that, the lock will open. [09:47.730 --> 09:54.770] If one of them is too high or too low, the pin will just jam, be in the way, and it cannot work. [09:55.350 --> 09:57.510] I hope this is sufficient information. [09:58.050 --> 09:58.710] If it's not... [09:58.710 --> 10:00.070] How does it jam if it's too low? [10:00.890 --> 10:01.830] Okay, you're right. [10:01.990 --> 10:02.490] That's a good question. [10:03.470 --> 10:06.430] In here are also five pins. [10:06.710 --> 10:09.370] So actually every hole is covered by two pins. [10:09.990 --> 10:10.950] And that's good. [10:11.390 --> 10:15.530] And a spring on top of that to keep it under pressure. [10:16.290 --> 10:23.910] And when the pin is too low, the higher pin will fall into the inner cylinder and jam it like that. [10:23.910 --> 10:24.910] That's a very good question. [10:25.170 --> 10:25.290] Thanks. [10:27.390 --> 10:29.470] Now, lock picking, how does it work? [10:33.420 --> 10:39.180] Well, first of all, you have to have some tools, most likely, to be able to pick a lock. [10:40.290 --> 10:45.500] And one of the tools available is, of course, the key. [10:45.740 --> 10:56.900] But if you don't have the key, if you don't have the key, you have to either make or buy or get somewhere, somewhere else. [10:57.660 --> 10:58.720] Tools like these. [11:01.900 --> 11:02.780] Where is it? [11:02.920 --> 11:03.540] There it is. [11:05.920 --> 11:10.920] What I'm showing right now is what is called a lady set or... [11:12.020 --> 11:12.760] Should we go first now? [11:13.060 --> 11:13.140] Yeah. [11:13.480 --> 11:14.340] Okay, I'll hold it for you. [11:14.820 --> 11:15.580] What's the other tool? [11:16.240 --> 11:18.180] A jackknife, a jackknife set. [11:18.540 --> 11:21.960] And basically it holds four tools together. [11:23.620 --> 11:25.800] First of all, there are two snakes inside. [11:27.680 --> 11:28.860] Perhaps you can point them out. [11:28.920 --> 11:29.380] This is a snake. [11:29.400 --> 11:30.040] That's a snake. [11:30.560 --> 11:32.220] There is a half diamond. [11:33.420 --> 11:34.520] And there is a finger. [11:37.320 --> 11:41.860] But to be able to pick a lock, you actually need another tool that comes with it. [11:42.960 --> 11:44.600] And it's called a tension wrench. [11:44.600 --> 11:51.240] Because what we actually want to achieve is turn the cylinder inside the lock. [11:52.040 --> 11:55.380] And with the tools, you can manipulate the pins inside. [11:55.680 --> 12:01.060] But you have to have some other tool to be able to put some pressure on it. [12:01.400 --> 12:03.420] And that's the tension wrench. [12:04.300 --> 12:15.460] And the funny thing is that when you are in a movie with some people that are lock enthusiasts, and James Bond is picking out only one tool and putting it in the lock and turning it... [12:16.660 --> 12:18.280] You know for sure that he has a key. [12:21.260 --> 12:23.180] So you need a tensioner. [12:23.340 --> 12:26.060] And actually, the tension wrench is a really important tool. [12:26.420 --> 12:27.640] People underestimate it. [12:27.760 --> 12:33.180] But it's actually putting the right amount of tension on the lock that opens it. [12:33.420 --> 12:38.640] If you put too much, you will force the pins and they cannot move. [12:38.640 --> 12:43.020] But a question has been asked to me many times already. [12:43.200 --> 12:47.420] Because we had a few workshops in the other room just for the people. [12:47.680 --> 12:49.920] They can play already a little bit with the locks. [12:50.520 --> 12:54.160] Is how expensive is my first set going to be? [12:54.380 --> 12:57.780] Shall I buy immediately a master set or shall I begin cheap? [12:58.400 --> 13:00.280] The answer to that is begin cheap. [13:00.800 --> 13:01.700] At the beginning you will... [13:01.700 --> 13:02.240] Very cheap. [13:02.600 --> 13:03.720] Very cheap, okay. [13:03.980 --> 13:06.880] At the beginning you will bend your tools. [13:06.880 --> 13:11.640] Because you don't know how much pressure you can use on your tools. [13:11.860 --> 13:13.760] And you will definitely harm them. [13:14.180 --> 13:15.680] So begin as cheap as possible. [13:16.020 --> 13:17.900] And this is as cheap as possible. [13:18.200 --> 13:24.260] These are just metal plates which have the shape of the picks. [13:25.060 --> 13:26.820] And actually they are picks of course. [13:27.440 --> 13:28.840] But they don't have a handle. [13:29.060 --> 13:29.860] They don't have anything. [13:30.140 --> 13:32.900] They are just straight pieces of metal. [13:34.220 --> 13:41.000] These things you can buy on the internet for about $2, $3 per item. [13:41.520 --> 13:45.300] And if you ever go to Germany, December is a good day to do that. [13:45.480 --> 13:47.000] Because then there is the championships. [13:47.340 --> 13:48.320] But I will come back to that. [13:48.700 --> 13:51.900] And they sell the sets there for very little money. [13:51.900 --> 13:54.100] So that might be a reason to come. [13:58.760 --> 14:00.200] So begin cheap. [14:00.520 --> 14:02.960] This is the cheapest solution you can get. [14:04.670 --> 14:06.940] It's just the basic tools. [14:07.420 --> 14:12.620] Then the jackknife or the ladies set is also a very cheap and handy thing. [14:12.620 --> 14:17.840] You can carry it with you at all times if you dare to do that in the United States. [14:20.080 --> 14:22.360] In Europe that's not a real problem. [14:22.840 --> 14:26.060] And I hope that after this workshop it won't be in the United States. [14:26.220 --> 14:30.260] Because we hope to get people motivated to start sport groups. [14:30.420 --> 14:32.740] But as I said we will go back into that. [14:34.330 --> 14:36.140] I just brought a few pick sets. [14:36.280 --> 14:37.460] So I just want to show them. [14:37.660 --> 14:40.500] This is what is being called the KGB pick set. [14:40.720 --> 14:44.760] It's a set you can carry on your buckle or on your belt. [14:46.300 --> 14:52.520] And it has very nice tools with nice handles that are made of fine rubber. [14:54.260 --> 14:56.600] I put some extra tools in there as well. [14:56.600 --> 14:59.300] So I didn't buy this set as it is now. [15:00.840 --> 15:01.860] This type of tools. [15:01.860 --> 15:04.600] But they are for the special high security locks. [15:04.760 --> 15:05.580] But I will show you later. [15:07.520 --> 15:11.100] Then the most common set under beginners is this one. [15:11.480 --> 15:15.260] It just contains up to 12 picks. [15:15.620 --> 15:16.960] It even has a tool... [15:16.960 --> 15:17.180] What? [15:18.880 --> 15:19.620] The extractor. [15:19.760 --> 15:20.020] Yeah. [15:20.200 --> 15:24.140] It even has a tool that can extract broken keys from a lock. [15:24.260 --> 15:34.680] So if your key ever breaks into your lock you can just use this type of fish hook thing and try to get behind the broken part of the key and pull it back. [15:34.680 --> 15:38.980] Very thin saws also work excellent for that. [15:39.260 --> 15:40.740] I don't know what the word for that is. [15:42.360 --> 15:43.700] Figure drawing saw. [15:45.260 --> 15:47.640] It's a very thin saw. [15:49.760 --> 15:50.480] Coping saw. [15:50.900 --> 15:51.520] Coping saw. [15:51.520 --> 15:51.760] Coping saw. [15:52.140 --> 15:52.380] Oh. [15:52.740 --> 15:52.800] Okay. [15:53.440 --> 15:54.580] Well that will work as well. [15:54.820 --> 15:59.520] You can just try to get it behind the key and you can pull it out. [15:59.980 --> 16:16.400] A lot of people had great use in that because if you call a locksmith and say well my key is broken then they will rip out your entire door and make a bloody mess and sell you a whole new door and locks and before you know it you spend like $300. [16:16.960 --> 16:19.760] Well the only thing you need is just a little saw. [16:20.360 --> 16:22.320] You push it in and then get it back. [16:23.280 --> 16:28.580] And don't call locksmiths when you have problems with opening your door because they will make a mess. [16:28.760 --> 16:30.820] I mean first try to be clever yourself. [16:32.200 --> 16:37.940] Anyway, this is the beginner set and it costs about 30, 35 bucks. [16:37.940 --> 16:38.960] You can get it. [16:39.360 --> 16:42.720] And you can have a great deal of fun with this set. [16:45.300 --> 16:50.980] Then the more expensive set has just more tools of everything. [16:51.820 --> 16:54.040] This one is also not complete. [16:54.180 --> 16:55.980] It used to have a whole set. [16:56.680 --> 17:00.820] It used to have like 50 or 60 of the same identical picks. [17:00.960 --> 17:02.440] So it doesn't make a difference. [17:02.660 --> 17:07.280] But it's more cheap to buy it than to buy three or four of these sets. [17:07.280 --> 17:11.820] And if you think that you are getting somewhere it might be useful to buy that. [17:13.320 --> 17:18.460] A really good set to buy is what is being called the dental pick set. [17:18.990 --> 17:19.540] And that's this. [17:20.340 --> 17:24.420] And I really thought I was going to get in trouble with customs when bringing this in. [17:24.420 --> 17:31.020] Because it really is a stainless steel sharp dart that is devious. [17:31.230 --> 17:34.490] I mean look at the snake. [17:35.460 --> 17:36.700] Look at this one. [17:36.820 --> 17:39.860] I mean it's really, really nasty and sharp. [17:40.520 --> 17:43.210] But these tools are really the best. [17:43.210 --> 17:47.960] Because they have an excellent feel, an excellent grip. [17:48.940 --> 17:54.320] And if you are an experienced lock picker you will find these very, very nice. [17:54.640 --> 17:57.120] And I have a great deal of fun with them. [17:57.560 --> 18:01.490] Although I always use my small KGB set because I always have that on me. [18:01.490 --> 18:05.620] So this is more for the championship. [18:07.710 --> 18:09.660] You are going to join them this time. [18:11.460 --> 18:13.840] And then you have the real expert set. [18:14.780 --> 18:21.080] That is mostly in use by the intelligence community. [18:23.100 --> 18:23.970] Oh really. [18:24.640 --> 18:27.120] It's made by someone called Falle. [18:27.310 --> 18:29.080] And his company is also called Falle. [18:29.180 --> 18:30.920] That's the Falle pick set. [18:31.380 --> 18:34.750] And actually they look quite cheap. [18:35.080 --> 18:37.750] And I think even to make them they are. [18:38.050 --> 18:41.100] But they have an excellent grip and an excellent design. [18:42.750 --> 18:47.160] One side of the pick is very thin. [18:47.400 --> 18:49.030] And the other side you have a little bit more grip. [18:49.640 --> 18:53.840] But what's very nice about this is the way that you can use them. [18:53.960 --> 18:55.730] You can use it like a pen. [18:56.100 --> 18:58.420] It really has a nice grip. [18:59.770 --> 19:00.470] Let's see. [19:03.770 --> 19:07.310] I only use one or two of these picks. [19:07.670 --> 19:10.690] The normal finger shaped pick. [19:10.690 --> 19:14.550] Because all the rest is only for real special locks. [19:15.330 --> 19:16.490] But it's a nice feel. [19:16.610 --> 19:17.590] And it's a really nice lock. [19:17.870 --> 19:21.450] And also the tension wrenches are really special. [19:21.730 --> 19:24.190] And I don't know if I can show it to you with the camera. [19:24.730 --> 19:25.330] Because... [19:27.450 --> 19:30.870] But this one actually can move. [19:31.290 --> 19:34.690] You can change the size of the tensioner. [19:35.610 --> 19:38.810] And you can make it fit in a lock perfectly. [19:39.110 --> 19:40.330] By two sides. [19:40.490 --> 19:42.510] So having more grip on the lock. [19:43.150 --> 19:45.730] And it fits in almost any lock. [19:46.430 --> 19:49.050] And they have like five different types. [19:49.550 --> 19:50.790] So they have a... [19:50.790 --> 19:53.170] For every lock they have something. [19:53.410 --> 19:55.910] And it really gives a nice tension feel. [19:56.070 --> 19:57.150] And it's really special. [19:57.990 --> 20:00.490] This is the most expensive set I have. [20:01.290 --> 20:03.850] It's costing about 350 bucks. [20:05.930 --> 20:06.930] There they are. [20:07.270 --> 20:07.990] I knew it. [20:12.620 --> 20:13.860] So that's the tools. [20:14.010 --> 20:18.160] But when you're starting, just buy the simple pick set for 35 bucks. [20:18.320 --> 20:23.590] Or even buy a few extra of these cheap two dollar one blade picks. [20:23.600 --> 20:26.380] Because that's all you're gonna use at the beginning. [20:29.030 --> 20:29.510] Um... [20:29.510 --> 20:29.750] Okay. [20:29.940 --> 20:31.730] Let's show them how it works. [20:31.880 --> 20:32.200] Okay. [20:32.290 --> 20:33.250] Show them how it works. [20:34.790 --> 20:37.470] At the sport group we have one famous lock. [20:38.100 --> 20:38.530] And it's... [20:38.530 --> 20:40.700] The brand name is 909. [20:40.880 --> 20:42.900] And I don't think I can show it to you. [20:43.030 --> 20:45.730] But actually it says here 909. [20:46.820 --> 20:47.290] Um... [20:47.290 --> 20:50.710] The lock is very famous in the sport groups in Germany and Holland. [20:51.010 --> 20:51.320] And why? [20:51.320 --> 20:53.640] Because it's very easy to pick. [20:54.490 --> 20:58.680] You just put anything in there, move it a little bit and it will open. [21:01.080 --> 21:01.600] Um... [21:01.600 --> 21:03.970] So I bet you that now under pressure I can't open it. [21:04.080 --> 21:04.750] But seriously. [21:05.960 --> 21:06.470] Um... [21:06.470 --> 21:07.460] This lock is... [21:07.460 --> 21:08.530] No thanks. [21:09.510 --> 21:10.030] Um... [21:10.030 --> 21:12.680] This lock is used as a motivation. [21:12.680 --> 21:15.470] To show people that you can open a lock. [21:15.680 --> 21:17.230] And to show them how it's done. [21:17.230 --> 21:18.320] And to get you... [21:18.940 --> 21:19.160] Uh... [21:19.160 --> 21:21.550] To give you the feeling of what you are doing. [21:22.030 --> 21:25.400] And so what I'll try to do is I'll put a tensioner in the lock. [21:26.330 --> 21:28.790] And I now put tension on it. [21:28.960 --> 21:31.460] And it won't open because the pins are in the way. [21:31.640 --> 21:32.270] As I said. [21:33.230 --> 21:33.680] Um... [21:33.680 --> 21:35.080] And my KGB pick set. [21:46.130 --> 21:52.670] By the way, the tool I use most is just a broken off $2 pick. [21:53.010 --> 21:56.410] Which I grind down just a little bit. [21:56.490 --> 21:57.730] So to make it a little more thin. [21:58.830 --> 21:59.270] Uh... [21:59.270 --> 22:00.010] Polish it a little bit. [22:00.090 --> 22:02.990] Because when it's smooth it gives a better action. [22:02.990 --> 22:03.790] Uh... [22:03.790 --> 22:06.290] It's also one of the first things we teach people at the club. [22:06.950 --> 22:08.990] Is to take very thin sandpaper. [22:09.650 --> 22:10.350] And uh... [22:10.350 --> 22:12.090] Brush off the edges of the pick set. [22:12.390 --> 22:14.590] And it will really uh... improve the way. [22:16.530 --> 22:16.970] Okay. [22:17.330 --> 22:17.530] Now. [22:17.790 --> 22:18.810] This is the finger. [22:18.970 --> 22:21.070] So I'm going to lift the pins up. [22:21.230 --> 22:21.710] I try to. [22:25.540 --> 22:25.980] Offen! [22:33.380 --> 22:33.820] Okay. [22:33.820 --> 22:34.960] But I can promise you. [22:35.100 --> 22:37.400] Anyone in this audience can do this lock. [22:37.680 --> 22:38.200] Uh... [22:38.200 --> 22:39.300] In under three minutes. [22:39.620 --> 22:39.900] Uh... [22:39.900 --> 22:43.520] If they don't put extremely uh... tension on it. [22:44.000 --> 22:46.060] Because if you really push it. [22:46.160 --> 22:47.980] Then you cannot push the pins up. [22:48.120 --> 22:49.300] Because you're jamming yourself. [22:49.660 --> 22:51.200] And that's what this lock is all about. [22:51.460 --> 22:53.900] It's to teach you not to use too much force. [22:54.080 --> 22:55.120] Which is the beginner error. [22:55.460 --> 22:57.140] Also when lifting the pins. [22:57.640 --> 22:58.000] Uh... [22:58.000 --> 22:59.760] Sometimes people break the tools. [23:00.060 --> 23:01.580] By putting too much pressure. [23:01.580 --> 23:03.960] Because they're pushing too hard on the tensioner. [23:05.080 --> 23:05.640] Um... [23:05.640 --> 23:06.600] Begin soft. [23:08.160 --> 23:08.720] Um... [23:08.720 --> 23:09.180] Let's see. [23:09.580 --> 23:10.140] Yeah. [23:10.220 --> 23:10.780] There's uh... [23:10.780 --> 23:12.080] Two different techniques to... [23:12.080 --> 23:12.860] To pick a lock. [23:13.180 --> 23:15.680] And the basic technique we teach people at the club. [23:15.840 --> 23:16.800] Is the raking technique. [23:17.080 --> 23:19.160] You have got this tool for that. [23:19.400 --> 23:21.660] And you see that it's not straight. [23:21.800 --> 23:22.820] It has a sort of uh... [23:23.360 --> 23:24.140] The shape of... [23:24.140 --> 23:24.640] Of... [23:24.640 --> 23:25.780] Maybe you could... [23:25.780 --> 23:26.720] A snake or... [23:28.660 --> 23:29.220] Um... [23:29.220 --> 23:29.800] And it... [23:29.800 --> 23:30.140] It... [23:30.140 --> 23:31.380] What you do is... [23:31.380 --> 23:33.280] You go over the... [23:33.280 --> 23:33.500] Pins. [23:33.700 --> 23:34.260] With it. [23:34.580 --> 23:35.640] And you just... [23:35.640 --> 23:36.540] Hit them. [23:36.760 --> 23:37.940] And then the lock will open. [23:39.900 --> 23:40.440] Um... [23:40.440 --> 23:41.320] This works with a... [23:41.320 --> 23:42.420] Great deal of locks. [23:43.460 --> 23:44.000] Uh... [23:44.000 --> 23:45.450] But only when the... [23:46.100 --> 23:47.380] Pins in the lock. [23:47.640 --> 23:48.980] Are about the same height. [23:49.320 --> 23:50.980] When there is a big difference in height. [23:51.180 --> 23:53.020] When the first pin is this large. [23:53.220 --> 23:54.640] And the second pin is very small. [23:55.480 --> 23:55.880] Uh... [23:55.880 --> 23:55.900] Uh... [23:55.900 --> 23:56.660] This is... [23:56.660 --> 23:57.040] Uh... [23:57.040 --> 23:58.720] Not such a good technique to do that. [23:58.880 --> 24:00.100] Then you really need... [24:00.100 --> 24:01.820] One of these so called lifters. [24:01.980 --> 24:02.440] Or fingers. [24:03.060 --> 24:03.580] To... [24:03.580 --> 24:04.280] Go into the lock. [24:04.980 --> 24:05.500] And... [24:05.500 --> 24:06.980] Push the pins one by one. [24:07.280 --> 24:07.880] Setting them. [24:08.200 --> 24:08.720] And... [24:08.720 --> 24:09.280] Well... [24:09.280 --> 24:10.180] It's still... [24:10.180 --> 24:10.820] Um... [24:10.820 --> 24:13.240] A nice technique to start with a lock. [24:14.160 --> 24:14.680] Because... [24:14.680 --> 24:14.940] Um... [24:14.940 --> 24:15.780] Using raking. [24:16.060 --> 24:18.100] You can actually make... [24:18.100 --> 24:18.380] Uh... [24:18.380 --> 24:20.080] The cylinder turn just a little bit. [24:20.080 --> 24:21.420] So that it... [24:21.420 --> 24:22.080] Will not... [24:22.080 --> 24:22.960] Jam... [24:22.960 --> 24:23.820] On all pins. [24:24.140 --> 24:25.220] But only on a few pins. [24:26.080 --> 24:26.460] And... [24:26.460 --> 24:27.420] Once you... [24:27.420 --> 24:27.840] Have... [24:27.840 --> 24:29.580] The cylinder turn just a little bit. [24:29.780 --> 24:31.940] You can focus on those pins... [24:31.940 --> 24:33.740] That are actually blocking the cylinder. [24:34.080 --> 24:34.740] At that time. [24:35.400 --> 24:37.740] So it's a valid technique to start with. [24:38.420 --> 24:38.480] Uh-huh. [24:40.020 --> 24:42.480] Then finish it off with actually picking a lock. [24:43.800 --> 24:46.980] Well the other technique I displayed the first time is lifting them. [24:47.180 --> 24:48.820] And that's just going into the lock. [24:49.260 --> 24:51.740] Finding the pin that is jamming the most. [24:52.240 --> 24:52.680] Because... [24:52.680 --> 24:53.620] There's five pins in there. [24:53.760 --> 24:55.400] But one is always a little bit thicker. [24:55.580 --> 24:56.540] Than the other one. [24:56.960 --> 24:57.820] So if you put... [24:57.820 --> 24:59.120] Pressure on the lock. [24:59.260 --> 25:00.200] It won't... [25:00.200 --> 25:00.620] Uh... [25:00.620 --> 25:01.940] Jam on all five pins. [25:02.080 --> 25:03.640] It will jam on one or two pins. [25:03.960 --> 25:05.940] And the trick with lifting is... [25:05.940 --> 25:07.100] Is finding that pin. [25:07.340 --> 25:08.860] And if you move up. [25:08.980 --> 25:10.440] And you don't feel any pressure. [25:10.860 --> 25:12.620] Then the pin is completely loose. [25:12.840 --> 25:14.160] And you don't have any... [25:14.720 --> 25:15.160] Uh... [25:15.160 --> 25:15.600] Then... [25:15.600 --> 25:16.440] Then you don't have any problem. [25:16.700 --> 25:17.180] Oh, okay. [25:17.180 --> 25:18.280] I did it again. [25:20.700 --> 25:21.220] Um... [25:21.220 --> 25:22.940] But this isn't a very easy lock. [25:23.340 --> 25:23.680] Uh... [25:23.680 --> 25:25.720] This also is a very easy lock, I hope. [25:26.620 --> 25:27.060] And... [25:28.740 --> 25:29.260] Uh... [25:29.260 --> 25:31.180] But these are the two basic techniques. [25:31.180 --> 25:34.700] That you can use to open a lock with lock picking. [25:37.760 --> 25:38.200] Um... [25:38.200 --> 25:38.740] Let's see. [25:38.940 --> 25:39.440] What's next? [25:41.940 --> 25:43.700] There is, of course, uh... [25:43.700 --> 25:44.280] More than just... [25:45.020 --> 25:45.260] These... [25:45.260 --> 25:46.040] This type of lock. [25:46.220 --> 25:47.720] There are many, many, many locks. [25:48.200 --> 25:51.240] And the thing is that almost every lock has its tool. [25:52.680 --> 25:53.120] Um... [25:53.120 --> 25:57.220] This is a tool that can be used on, I don't know, 75% on all the locks. [25:58.480 --> 25:58.860] Uh... [25:58.860 --> 26:03.040] But, of course, there is also special locks and special tools like the tubular. [26:04.040 --> 26:04.420] Uh... [26:04.420 --> 26:05.400] You have cross locks. [26:05.540 --> 26:06.700] You have many, many, many. [26:07.340 --> 26:07.720] Uh... [26:07.720 --> 26:08.920] But every lock has its tool. [26:09.160 --> 26:12.960] And when you look on the internet, you can find a lot of tools for a lot of locks. [26:26.820 --> 26:27.200] Uh... [26:28.660 --> 26:29.180] Um... [26:29.180 --> 26:29.540] But... [26:29.540 --> 26:31.280] This is really solving the puzzle. [26:31.660 --> 26:32.640] Going one by one. [26:32.860 --> 26:33.740] Feeling the pins. [26:34.220 --> 26:34.640] And... [26:34.640 --> 26:38.840] Also, when you hit the pin, the tensioner sometimes comes back to you. [26:39.060 --> 26:42.300] Saying that, okay, this is the one that is... [26:42.300 --> 26:43.460] Where the force is on. [26:46.180 --> 26:49.280] And as you can see, you can actually do this... [26:49.280 --> 26:50.960] This sport, uh... [26:50.960 --> 26:54.360] While talking to an audience or talking to other people in the room. [26:54.360 --> 26:56.160] So, it's a social event. [26:56.860 --> 26:57.340] Uh... [26:57.340 --> 26:58.000] Really, it is. [26:59.420 --> 27:00.300] We want to... [27:00.300 --> 27:02.480] We want to make it as social as possible. [27:02.760 --> 27:04.540] So, yeah, you can have a beer. [27:04.700 --> 27:07.700] Yeah, if you do smoke, you can have a cigarette. [27:08.140 --> 27:08.620] Um... [27:08.620 --> 27:09.520] If you really need to. [27:10.480 --> 27:10.960] Um... [27:10.960 --> 27:12.520] And in the meantime, solve a puzzle. [27:12.900 --> 27:13.140] And... [27:13.140 --> 27:14.440] And talk with, um... [27:15.100 --> 27:17.880] The guys and girls over on the table. [27:18.160 --> 27:21.120] And exchange information on different kinds of locks. [27:21.120 --> 27:23.680] For instance, once you pick the lock. [27:24.020 --> 27:24.560] Uh... [27:24.560 --> 27:26.620] And you know, really know how the lock works. [27:26.820 --> 27:29.980] You can exchange that information with some other guy. [27:30.200 --> 27:32.200] Who has, um... [27:32.200 --> 27:34.320] Extreme difficulties in picking that lock. [27:36.260 --> 27:36.780] Like me. [27:37.620 --> 27:38.160] Um... [27:38.160 --> 27:38.540] Right now. [27:39.100 --> 27:39.640] Okay. [27:40.940 --> 27:41.480] Um... [27:41.480 --> 27:42.400] But you get the idea. [27:43.040 --> 27:43.780] I hope. [27:44.680 --> 27:45.220] Um... [27:45.220 --> 27:47.260] Also, when placing the tensioner. [27:47.380 --> 27:48.160] It's also important. [27:48.900 --> 27:49.340] Um... [27:49.340 --> 27:51.160] When I assume that, uh... [27:51.160 --> 27:52.480] That the pins are here. [27:52.640 --> 27:54.140] They're on the high part of the lock. [27:55.500 --> 27:55.940] Um... [27:55.940 --> 27:59.100] Some people prefer to put the tensioner on the low side of the lock. [27:59.740 --> 28:00.880] And then you pick it. [28:02.020 --> 28:02.460] Um... [28:02.460 --> 28:04.240] I prefer to put it on the high side. [28:04.520 --> 28:06.680] Because when you put it on the high side of the lock. [28:07.400 --> 28:07.840] Um... [28:07.840 --> 28:10.440] You have extra space to move your tool. [28:11.980 --> 28:12.460] So... [28:12.460 --> 28:13.700] That's what I prefer. [28:16.340 --> 28:16.820] Yeah. [28:16.980 --> 28:17.160] With... [28:17.160 --> 28:20.120] With some locks, you have to, um... [28:20.120 --> 28:21.380] Put the tensioner in... [28:21.380 --> 28:23.540] In the middle or on the high side of the lock. [28:24.080 --> 28:24.560] Because... [28:24.560 --> 28:26.120] The, um... [28:26.120 --> 28:27.140] The space... [28:27.140 --> 28:27.740] Where... [28:27.740 --> 28:29.100] Where the key normally fits in. [28:29.160 --> 28:29.820] Is so small. [28:30.240 --> 28:30.720] That... [28:30.720 --> 28:32.040] If you do it any other way. [28:32.180 --> 28:34.520] You can't, um... [28:34.520 --> 28:36.620] Insert your tools into the lock. [28:36.900 --> 28:37.180] So... [28:37.180 --> 28:37.760] I got it. [28:37.960 --> 28:38.420] Thank you. [28:48.950 --> 28:51.870] Now, of course, the lock industry is not crazy as well. [28:52.130 --> 28:53.130] So, they... [28:53.130 --> 28:57.830] Think of all these things all the time to make life for the lock pickers a little bit difficult. [28:58.250 --> 29:00.230] Well, it's really too bad that you... [29:00.230 --> 29:02.350] Can't focus on this lock because... [29:02.930 --> 29:03.890] Put it up a bit. [29:07.250 --> 29:08.210] And that... [29:08.790 --> 29:11.270] It's like a big hole on the top of the wall. [29:19.880 --> 29:25.100] Actually, what they do is they design locks that have a very, very, very narrow... [29:25.100 --> 29:25.740] Uh... [29:25.740 --> 29:26.880] Entrance of the... [29:26.880 --> 29:27.340] Of the key. [29:27.720 --> 29:30.120] And the key also has a lot of side cuts. [29:30.300 --> 29:31.560] As you can see here. [29:32.160 --> 29:35.280] So, what you get is some sort of zig-zag... [29:36.140 --> 29:36.620] Um... [29:36.620 --> 29:37.460] Um... [29:37.460 --> 29:37.700] Look. [29:38.240 --> 29:38.720] Profile. [29:39.040 --> 29:39.640] On the lock. [29:40.080 --> 29:40.560] And... [29:40.560 --> 29:43.940] With this lock, it's almost impossible to get your tool in. [29:44.220 --> 29:46.440] Because it's completely zig-zag. [29:47.240 --> 29:47.720] Uh... [29:47.720 --> 29:48.440] Try this one. [29:49.440 --> 29:50.680] A bit smaller, but... [29:50.680 --> 29:50.860] Yeah. [29:51.320 --> 29:52.180] No, but I mean, it's... [29:52.180 --> 29:54.400] It is possible, but it's really... [29:55.240 --> 29:55.800] Annoying. [29:56.560 --> 29:56.840] So... [29:57.960 --> 29:58.520] Uh... [29:58.520 --> 29:58.800] Not... [29:58.800 --> 30:00.220] Not every lock is that easy. [30:00.580 --> 30:04.160] And if you spend a little bit more than normal on locks, uh... [30:04.160 --> 30:04.340] You... [30:04.340 --> 30:06.640] You can get something, uh... [30:06.640 --> 30:07.200] Something good. [30:08.900 --> 30:09.460] Um... [30:09.460 --> 30:12.040] Well, then, I can go to why we... [30:12.040 --> 30:12.240] Or... [30:12.240 --> 30:13.800] Why we, uh... [30:13.800 --> 30:14.700] Made a sport group. [30:15.040 --> 30:15.880] Because that's... [30:15.880 --> 30:16.820] That's an interesting question. [30:17.240 --> 30:21.680] When I started lock picking 12 years ago, I was the only one in my group. [30:21.680 --> 30:22.540] Or... [30:22.540 --> 30:23.380] The only one in my group. [30:23.500 --> 30:24.920] That's not right, of course. [30:25.080 --> 30:26.940] I was the only one, uh... [30:26.940 --> 30:29.960] In my group of friends that was interested in lock picking. [30:30.200 --> 30:32.840] The rest was doing computers and, uh... [30:32.840 --> 30:34.920] Founded access for all and other internet providers. [30:35.080 --> 30:36.820] But I was more into lock picking. [30:37.320 --> 30:39.080] And I was sort of a... [30:39.080 --> 30:40.780] A loner in that area. [30:41.100 --> 30:42.640] And I had to teach myself everything. [30:42.640 --> 30:43.580] I ordered the Pixar. [30:44.100 --> 30:45.900] And had no clue on how it worked. [30:46.360 --> 30:47.140] And, uh... [30:47.140 --> 30:48.440] My English was not so good. [30:49.680 --> 30:50.180] Um... [30:50.180 --> 30:52.780] So I was translating the books and not getting it. [30:52.960 --> 30:54.460] And finally getting somewhere. [30:54.780 --> 30:55.790] And, um... [30:56.360 --> 30:58.240] But it never was a social event for me. [30:58.300 --> 31:00.140] It was just a struggle to learn myself. [31:01.600 --> 31:02.100] Um... [31:02.100 --> 31:03.360] But I finally got somewhere. [31:04.360 --> 31:05.240] And, uh... [31:05.240 --> 31:06.780] I did a workshop on HIP. [31:07.060 --> 31:07.280] No? [31:07.440 --> 31:07.920] On HEU. [31:08.000 --> 31:08.640] HEU, that is. [31:08.860 --> 31:09.120] HEU. [31:09.120 --> 31:10.040] In 1993. [31:11.080 --> 31:13.360] And I think some German guy saw that. [31:13.520 --> 31:14.960] And became very enthusiastic. [31:15.640 --> 31:17.780] And thought, well, this is fun. [31:17.980 --> 31:19.040] We want to do this as well. [31:19.260 --> 31:21.780] But in Germany, the police is strict. [31:22.060 --> 31:23.980] And I mean, they are very strict. [31:24.840 --> 31:25.280] Uh... [31:25.280 --> 31:26.680] Maybe even more strict than here. [31:26.940 --> 31:29.180] Although, in some cases, that's maybe not possible. [31:29.760 --> 31:30.200] But... [31:31.760 --> 31:33.180] No, but I mean, they are. [31:33.180 --> 31:34.040] And, uh... [31:34.040 --> 31:35.460] One of the things that they... [31:35.460 --> 31:38.560] One of the weapons of the police is the organized crime laws. [31:39.000 --> 31:41.440] So, if I teach you how to open a lock. [31:41.660 --> 31:43.420] And you break into a house. [31:44.040 --> 31:44.320] Uh... [31:44.320 --> 31:45.060] I taught you that. [31:45.220 --> 31:47.800] So, I'm part of your organized crime ring. [31:48.080 --> 31:48.860] And that's... [31:48.860 --> 31:49.840] That really is a... [31:49.840 --> 31:50.740] Is a big problem. [31:51.240 --> 31:53.360] So, they thought of something funny. [31:53.480 --> 31:54.480] They said, well, you know what? [31:55.040 --> 31:55.400] Uh... [31:55.400 --> 31:56.160] Let's make a... [31:56.160 --> 31:56.740] Uh... [31:56.740 --> 31:57.480] A sport group. [31:57.900 --> 32:00.100] That was the basic idea, I guess. [32:00.780 --> 32:01.260] To... [32:01.260 --> 32:01.920] To start that. [32:01.920 --> 32:05.940] And that it turned out to have 500 members and championships and everything. [32:06.200 --> 32:07.200] That's really nice. [32:07.360 --> 32:08.280] It really... [32:08.280 --> 32:08.720] Uh... [32:08.720 --> 32:09.840] Went on a good level. [32:10.580 --> 32:11.160] And... [32:11.160 --> 32:13.460] They inspired a guy in Holland. [32:13.680 --> 32:14.400] Tim Matthews. [32:14.600 --> 32:15.040] Uh... [32:15.040 --> 32:17.300] Who's the founder of the Dutch sport group. [32:17.600 --> 32:19.640] To start a Dutch sport group as well. [32:20.120 --> 32:20.480] And... [32:20.480 --> 32:21.500] That's really good. [32:22.460 --> 32:22.940] Um... [32:22.940 --> 32:23.560] But... [32:23.560 --> 32:23.960] So, in... [32:23.960 --> 32:24.460] At... [32:24.460 --> 32:27.240] At first, they started with the sport group for, uh... [32:27.960 --> 32:28.440] Legal... [32:29.300 --> 32:29.780] Um... [32:29.780 --> 32:30.700] Legal problems. [32:31.840 --> 32:34.360] When you enter the sport group in Germany. [32:35.260 --> 32:36.400] Also in Holland now. [32:36.600 --> 32:38.440] You get a very nice identity card. [32:38.680 --> 32:41.040] Saying, this person is part of a sport group. [32:41.040 --> 32:41.720] And is... [32:42.560 --> 32:43.080] Um... [32:43.080 --> 32:47.040] Is allowed to carry his sport gear with him at all times. [32:47.320 --> 32:48.760] And he signed a contract. [32:49.020 --> 32:52.780] Not to use the information for criminal activities. [32:53.040 --> 32:54.880] And if he does, please tell us. [32:55.000 --> 32:57.280] And we will kick him out of our group. [32:57.520 --> 32:59.100] Because that's not the meaning of the group. [32:59.900 --> 33:00.360] So... [33:00.360 --> 33:00.980] Uh... [33:00.980 --> 33:01.920] Starting a lockpick group. [33:02.100 --> 33:03.920] Is protecting yourself from trouble. [33:04.560 --> 33:06.360] Because if you are with five people. [33:06.720 --> 33:07.180] And... [33:07.180 --> 33:10.000] One of the five people is teaching someone else who is stealing a bike. [33:10.260 --> 33:11.160] You are still in trouble. [33:11.700 --> 33:11.980] So... [33:11.980 --> 33:13.800] It is a way to protect yourself. [33:14.000 --> 33:16.880] And also, if you make the identity card a little bit official. [33:17.100 --> 33:18.020] Put a stamp on it. [33:18.200 --> 33:18.660] And... [33:18.660 --> 33:20.120] Some other things like a number. [33:20.860 --> 33:21.320] And... [33:22.700 --> 33:23.160] Uh... [33:23.160 --> 33:24.180] Well, you know... [33:24.180 --> 33:24.660] Cops... [33:24.660 --> 33:25.260] Cops love it. [33:25.360 --> 33:26.020] I mean... [33:26.020 --> 33:26.280] Uh... [33:26.280 --> 33:27.260] You just... [33:35.280 --> 33:36.940] Also, we put in three languages. [33:37.460 --> 33:37.820] Uh... [33:37.820 --> 33:38.400] This person. [33:38.560 --> 33:39.000] Blah, blah, blah. [33:39.340 --> 33:41.420] So, even if they can see it in their own language. [33:41.580 --> 33:41.960] It is like, wow. [33:42.080 --> 33:43.060] They really thought about us. [33:43.280 --> 33:43.540] And... [33:44.460 --> 33:44.860] Uh... [33:44.860 --> 33:45.520] So... [33:45.980 --> 33:46.500] We still... [33:46.500 --> 33:47.020] We have... [33:47.020 --> 33:48.660] We still have to cover German though. [33:49.780 --> 33:50.180] But... [33:50.180 --> 33:50.640] No. [33:51.280 --> 33:52.000] But that... [33:52.000 --> 33:53.400] That's the way they did it in Germany. [33:53.620 --> 33:53.880] And it... [33:53.880 --> 33:55.060] It really worked out well. [33:55.280 --> 33:58.520] And before they knew it, they had 500 enthusiastic members. [33:59.600 --> 34:00.000] Um... [34:00.000 --> 34:03.360] And also, one of the weapons of the sport group in Germany was humor. [34:03.360 --> 34:04.600] They had... [34:05.020 --> 34:06.540] They have a lot of humor in Germany. [34:06.660 --> 34:08.020] Although you normally wouldn't say that. [34:08.160 --> 34:08.700] But the... [34:08.700 --> 34:09.960] The people I know... [34:09.960 --> 34:11.040] The people I know do. [34:11.300 --> 34:13.020] And really, they're really good people. [34:13.440 --> 34:15.240] For instance, uh... [34:15.240 --> 34:17.980] They have several lockpick, uh... classes. [34:18.300 --> 34:20.660] And one of them is, uh... lockpicking in the nude. [34:22.720 --> 34:26.820] So they go outside, take off all their clothes and sit on the table and pick locks. [34:27.100 --> 34:29.440] And I mean, I kid you not, this is really happening. [34:31.160 --> 34:34.640] Are there any women at that meeting? [34:34.640 --> 34:34.880] Yes. [34:35.840 --> 34:37.000] Even some Dutch. [34:37.460 --> 34:37.500] Even some Dutch. [34:42.180 --> 34:42.860] Um... [34:42.860 --> 34:43.520] They also have... [34:43.520 --> 34:44.020] And your head, most likely. [34:44.700 --> 34:47.100] They also have a, uh... [34:47.100 --> 34:50.640] They have pictures on their website of lockpicking underwater. [34:51.380 --> 34:55.960] A few of these people are, uh, diving enthusiasts. [34:56.480 --> 35:02.560] So, they just made a few pictures with, uh, people in gear, wearing, uh, the oxygen masks. [35:02.720 --> 35:07.760] And picking locks, uh, at the Caribbean, uh, at 15 meters of depth. [35:08.600 --> 35:09.080] And... [35:09.080 --> 35:09.240] And... [35:09.240 --> 35:14.800] But I mean, when, when, when you're a cop and you try to arrest these people that are really annoying for them. [35:15.000 --> 35:16.440] Because they reveal secrets. [35:16.620 --> 35:19.900] We're also some sort of, of low technique hackers. [35:20.120 --> 35:21.460] We are, uh... [35:21.460 --> 35:24.000] Because many people believe that locks are secure. [35:24.300 --> 35:30.080] And then you come to the, to the club and you see people, uh, 15 year olds, tak-tak open. [35:30.480 --> 35:32.940] And that's, they, they, they don't like it. [35:33.060 --> 35:38.240] But there's so much humor in that, that, you know, uh, imagine yourself going to court. [35:38.440 --> 35:39.720] And they have a copy of the website. [35:39.840 --> 35:41.540] And they say, well, this is a criminal organization. [35:41.880 --> 35:45.100] And then you see pictures of, uh, nude people picking locks. [35:48.440 --> 35:49.660] And lockpicking underwater. [35:49.980 --> 35:51.680] I mean, it's just, okay. [35:52.360 --> 35:54.900] That's, that's, that's thought about really well. [35:55.060 --> 35:57.320] And I really must, uh, tell that they, yeah. [35:57.460 --> 35:58.600] I, I like what they do. [35:58.740 --> 35:59.820] And they did a great job. [36:00.880 --> 36:03.620] And it got me interested in lockpicking again. [36:03.620 --> 36:06.900] Because, as I said, I started, uh, a long while ago. [36:07.080 --> 36:08.780] And at one moment it was just satisfied. [36:08.780 --> 36:10.500] Like, okay, I know what I have to know. [36:11.440 --> 36:13.440] And there's no motivation in it. [36:13.680 --> 36:18.920] And then I came to the first, uh, uh, sport group of the, the first evening of the sport group. [36:19.040 --> 36:20.820] Because I know Tim Matthews personally. [36:21.900 --> 36:25.700] And, um, he said, well, this lock, you know, I never was able to open it. [36:25.860 --> 36:26.620] Like, really? [36:26.880 --> 36:28.940] And then I start trying and trying and trying. [36:28.940 --> 36:30.760] And 50 minutes later the lock was open. [36:30.960 --> 36:33.040] And I was like, okay, I can still do this. [36:33.640 --> 36:35.360] And got motivated again. [36:35.540 --> 36:36.380] Bought some more tools. [36:36.680 --> 36:40.160] And now I'm actually more lockpicking than I was before. [36:40.260 --> 36:41.620] Because I was doing other stuff as well. [36:42.720 --> 36:43.820] But it's, it's nice. [36:44.040 --> 36:47.120] And also, um, it, it keeps your minds off things. [36:47.440 --> 36:50.640] You can just sit there with the lock and forget everything around you. [36:50.760 --> 36:51.400] And just do it. [36:51.620 --> 36:52.960] Like sitting in an airplane. [36:52.960 --> 36:56.280] Uh, no, really, I mean... [36:57.040 --> 37:02.100] There are even people who, um, have a lock all the time with him. [37:02.720 --> 37:04.080] Um, for instance in a car. [37:04.840 --> 37:09.920] And if, if the light is, uh, turned red, they just pick their lock up. [37:10.200 --> 37:13.220] Pick the tools and try to pick it before the light goes green. [37:13.460 --> 37:17.200] Or the one behind them goes, uh, uh, pressing their horn. [37:17.700 --> 37:21.140] And if he, if he succeeds, he wins the game. [37:21.140 --> 37:22.920] If he doesn't, he loses it. [37:23.220 --> 37:24.960] It's, it's a way of life for him. [37:25.180 --> 37:25.720] So, yeah. [37:26.900 --> 37:38.800] But I mean, this is actually examples of real people that are really eager to become Deutsche Meister, uh, champion, uh, champion of Germany, uh, which is in, in, in December, uh, every year. [37:39.040 --> 37:48.000] Well, Deutsche Meister, what, right now, since, uh, the Germans are the only ones who actually have a competition, um, it's World Master. [37:48.000 --> 37:55.500] So, if you want to catch up, you have to start your own organizations over here in the United States as well. [37:55.700 --> 38:00.200] And then we can actually compete against each other, uh, on a world level. [38:00.720 --> 38:03.640] Um, let's see. [38:03.880 --> 38:04.280] What else? [38:05.160 --> 38:06.120] I think... [38:06.120 --> 38:06.500] Oh, okay. [38:06.560 --> 38:07.060] You have a question? [38:07.380 --> 38:08.920] What about combination locks? [38:09.760 --> 38:12.440] Um, well, that's, that's different. [38:12.860 --> 38:17.700] Uh, the, the sport group focuses on, on pin tumblers and funny locks. [38:17.940 --> 38:19.740] Of course, also combination locks. [38:20.220 --> 38:23.440] But, there is so many different types of combination locks. [38:23.620 --> 38:26.040] And some work, you just put a little tension on the lock. [38:26.160 --> 38:29.280] You pull it, and then you try to dial, try to dial. [38:29.280 --> 38:33.880] And, when the discs, there are normally discs in there. [38:34.080 --> 38:36.960] When the discs fall in place, you will feel a little tick. [38:37.440 --> 38:39.440] That's one of the techniques to open the lock. [38:39.580 --> 38:42.120] But, of course, some of them are protected against that. [38:42.320 --> 38:44.400] But, that's an, an all different, uh, game. [38:44.700 --> 38:50.580] The sport groups normally focus on just normal locks that, uh, that you will find almost everywhere. [38:52.040 --> 38:57.180] In, in competition, do you know the lock you're gonna pick, or do you have to figure this out on the fly? [38:57.540 --> 38:59.740] Okay, I have not entered a competition. [39:00.080 --> 39:04.680] But, what I know of it is that when you want to enter the competition, you bring one lock yourself. [39:05.440 --> 39:10.540] Um, so, you are at a table with say 15 people, and the clock starts. [39:10.720 --> 39:13.600] And you have to pick your lock within 5 minutes yourself. [39:13.940 --> 39:17.800] If you cannot pick your lock in 5 minutes yourself, well, you'll lose. [39:18.920 --> 39:23.560] Then, when you do that, you shift the lock to your neighbor and you get another lock. [39:23.900 --> 39:26.700] And you get maximum 15 minutes for that lock. [39:26.860 --> 39:29.720] And as I understand it works by the way of elimination. [39:30.520 --> 39:31.820] So there's one winner. [39:32.920 --> 39:37.520] Also, I think it's something with time and points and they write down how fast you do it and... [39:37.520 --> 39:37.740] Often. [39:38.440 --> 39:39.240] Okay, there you go. [39:41.460 --> 39:42.320] You opened it. [39:49.550 --> 39:51.810] ¿The most difficult lock to open? [40:00.350 --> 40:03.410] You assume that you can open it in the first place, okay? [40:03.810 --> 40:08.830] Right Well, the most difficult locks I will go into that later... [40:08.830 --> 40:13.530] But they look a little bit like... the key looks a little bit like this. [40:13.910 --> 40:14.910] I don't know if you can see that. [40:15.170 --> 40:20.210] It has all these holes and they used to call them computer keys. [40:20.430 --> 40:20.930] I don't know why. [40:21.070 --> 40:22.510] It's just a sales argument probably. [40:22.830 --> 40:26.950] But... and they look really nice and interesting. [40:27.850 --> 40:32.370] Many, many holes in the key instead of plain cuts. [40:32.850 --> 40:36.530] And not only holes on the side but also right on top. [40:36.530 --> 40:37.730] Cut them on all the sides. [40:39.330 --> 40:40.730] What about handcuffs? [40:41.490 --> 40:42.350] They're easy. [40:42.490 --> 40:43.270] Kinky types, huh? [40:45.550 --> 40:47.030] Well, there's nothing wrong with that. [40:47.510 --> 40:52.490] For handcuffs I would say go to your local S&M shop. [40:54.050 --> 40:54.950] I'm serious. [40:55.270 --> 41:02.430] They sell you a key there for $1.99 that will open all the normal handcuffs around. [41:02.430 --> 41:03.830] And I'm serious. [41:04.150 --> 41:09.150] And I know people that bought a bunch of those and sold them in their clothes. [41:09.310 --> 41:11.970] So they have one in the neck and one in the back of their pants. [41:13.430 --> 41:14.450] And I'm not kidding. [41:14.650 --> 41:15.610] I mean this is for real. [41:17.650 --> 41:18.250] Yeah. [41:18.250 --> 41:18.590] Okay. [41:18.750 --> 41:19.110] It's nice. [41:19.950 --> 41:20.310] Okay. [41:20.470 --> 41:21.310] Shall we do questions? [41:21.810 --> 41:21.890] Yeah. [41:22.170 --> 41:22.290] Okay. [41:22.430 --> 41:32.550] They're all parallel to computer hacking where a lot of computer hackers will hack as a way of demonstrating to companies the flaws in their security. [41:32.810 --> 41:37.170] What suggestions would you have to lock makers to make their locks more secure? [41:37.170 --> 41:38.090] Okay. [41:38.350 --> 41:40.030] Did anyone hear that question? [41:40.290 --> 41:41.630] Because I understand that... [41:42.370 --> 41:42.890] Yeah? [41:43.470 --> 41:43.590] Okay. [41:44.710 --> 41:49.850] I think that the manufacturers of the lock know how to make a safe lock. [41:50.030 --> 41:57.770] The problem is that if they go by the rules and really make it safe, their lock is going to be $5 more expensive than the competition. [41:57.770 --> 42:05.570] And the person buying the lock cannot see the difference between a $10, a $15, a $20, or a $35 lock. [42:05.690 --> 42:09.350] Because sometimes even the $10 lock is better than the $35. [42:09.650 --> 42:10.330] So... [42:10.330 --> 42:11.710] But it's difficult. [42:12.370 --> 42:19.590] There are some rules like closing the gap where you can put in your tools by putting a zigzag motif. [42:19.850 --> 42:25.790] That's a very effective way of preventing from lock picking. [42:28.070 --> 42:31.110] There's also other ways like putting magnets in your lock. [42:31.550 --> 42:39.130] I have a whole bunch of magnet keys with me and I don't know if we get to the point that I can actually show some of the mag locks. [42:39.410 --> 42:41.890] But I cannot open those magnetic locks. [42:42.410 --> 42:48.590] It would require special tools and I have an idea on how to open them and it's also... [42:48.590 --> 42:49.790] I think it has been done before. [42:50.530 --> 43:02.590] So do you think if lock picking became a more popular sport that people would begin to realize that locks are not as secure as they think they are and that then would apply pressure to the companies to make more secure locks? [43:02.830 --> 43:03.250] Sure. [43:03.710 --> 43:09.850] In Holland and Germany you see more often articles in newspapers on this crazy sport group. [43:10.390 --> 43:20.410] And I think even in Germany some of the television even got hyped on television on popular shows. [43:20.410 --> 43:29.310] So many, many people see what's going on and 15-year-olds opening locks that they have on their own door. [43:29.910 --> 43:31.350] So, yeah, it's working. [43:31.710 --> 43:36.190] And maybe it's a big boost for the lock industry to make locks. [43:36.430 --> 43:50.610] And also I think that in Germany, but I'm not sure, the guys from the sport group are talking with manufacturers of locks and even trying to open locks that they are going to bring out and everything. [43:50.750 --> 43:53.870] But I'm not 100% sure on exactly the details. [43:54.070 --> 43:58.390] But there are some people actually from Germany here that might know the answer to that. [43:58.530 --> 44:01.730] But in Holland we're not at that point yet. [44:03.290 --> 44:03.770] Next. [44:08.920 --> 44:12.340] Your average burglar doesn't kick the lock and just kick the door down. [44:13.120 --> 44:13.560] Correct. [44:14.240 --> 44:18.480] Yeah, the average burglar will kick your door down and a crowbar and a screwdriver... [44:18.480 --> 44:23.420] Then again, computer hacking is not about breaking and entering a website, is it? [44:24.020 --> 44:25.400] Yeah, you can only kick your door down. [44:26.500 --> 44:27.380] That's cracking. [44:28.080 --> 44:29.800] Yeah, script can use the price burger now. [44:29.960 --> 44:32.400] A burglar is more of a service connector. [44:33.180 --> 44:33.960] Okay, anyway. [44:38.000 --> 44:38.840] More questions? [44:40.300 --> 44:45.280] I noticed that you were holding the lock with your right hand and the tool with your left hand. [44:45.440 --> 44:46.440] Close observation. [44:47.980 --> 44:49.420] Wouldn't this be awkward for [44:53.100 --> 44:53.300] you? [44:55.680 --> 44:56.200] Yes. [44:56.740 --> 44:58.060] I guess so, but... [44:58.500 --> 45:02.060] Yeah, but the thing is, I'm left-handed, so that's... [45:02.060 --> 45:02.740] I'm right-handed as well. [45:03.300 --> 45:03.380] Yeah. [45:03.840 --> 45:04.500] So yeah, you can. [45:04.980 --> 45:10.980] And the other thing is, because I trained myself in lockpicking and I had no one to show me, I had... [45:10.980 --> 45:12.260] I have a wrong technique. [45:13.020 --> 45:13.700] No, really. [45:13.860 --> 45:17.400] I mean, if you really, really, really want to lockpick, you've got to do it like this. [45:17.720 --> 45:19.120] This is the right way to do it. [45:19.560 --> 45:23.900] Holding the pick like a pen and making this motion. [45:23.900 --> 45:27.220] But I trained myself in doing this and it also works. [45:27.400 --> 45:33.740] But if you really want to become an expert lockpicker, learn this grip because this is really the way to do it. [45:33.860 --> 45:40.820] And all the people that win the championship, I see them picking like this because that's the best way to do it. [45:40.820 --> 45:42.600] Like writing and holding a pen. [45:42.800 --> 45:45.620] It's intentional, the way you were pressing it. [45:46.320 --> 45:49.300] It would have to be in the other direction rather than to do it. [45:49.460 --> 45:50.340] Yes, that's true. [45:50.880 --> 45:51.800] Yeah, that's no problem. [45:52.600 --> 46:00.260] I can show you a little tool because sometimes the curve of... or the shape of the... [46:02.060 --> 46:06.800] the shape of the key will prevent you from picking it to the left or to the right. [46:07.060 --> 46:09.540] Because it just won't fit or it just doesn't work. [46:09.760 --> 46:17.420] And you can be... with some difficult key types, you can be lucky to pick the lock on the left. [46:17.680 --> 46:19.320] But you need it to go to the right. [46:19.460 --> 46:20.100] So that's a problem. [46:22.080 --> 46:25.040] Fortunately, lockpick companies designed something for that. [46:25.220 --> 46:27.360] And that's this little device. [46:27.360 --> 46:29.700] And it's called the flip it. [46:31.940 --> 46:34.400] What you do is you bring it under pressure. [46:35.100 --> 46:36.500] You put it in a lock. [46:36.880 --> 46:39.720] I don't know if you saw that I turned it and then pushed it in. [46:40.060 --> 46:42.240] You turn it in the lock and you push it. [46:42.320 --> 46:44.960] And it really fasts with a spring, turns the lock. [46:45.540 --> 46:50.100] Now I... when I started lockpicking, I of course thought of... [46:50.100 --> 46:51.780] Wow, a device like that would be nice. [46:52.340 --> 46:55.780] But I didn't thought it would exist because it would turn too slow. [46:55.780 --> 46:57.480] But in fact, it doesn't. [46:57.600 --> 46:58.400] It really works. [47:00.300 --> 47:01.900] And it's a little bit difficult. [47:02.320 --> 47:05.340] Normally I have something to hold the lock and then I can demonstrate it. [47:06.120 --> 47:07.790] As you can see, the lock is now... [47:09.440 --> 47:10.960] Okay, somebody is going to... [47:10.960 --> 47:12.400] Will that destroy the lock? [47:12.600 --> 47:15.460] No, it will just only rotate the lock a little bit. [47:16.020 --> 47:17.790] Rob, can you hold it? [47:20.220 --> 47:20.620] Okay. [47:20.740 --> 47:21.580] Oh, wait, wait, wait. [47:22.200 --> 47:22.600] Okay. [47:25.020 --> 47:25.420] Okay. [47:25.520 --> 47:27.980] I hope you can see that the lock is now turned like that. [47:28.740 --> 47:32.380] I want to turn the lock that way. [47:32.540 --> 47:33.790] So that means that... [47:36.600 --> 47:37.000] Okay. [47:41.770 --> 47:42.390] There you go. [47:42.390 --> 47:46.330] It rotated the lock very fast. [47:47.290 --> 47:47.650] And... [47:47.650 --> 47:49.330] Yeah, that's about it. [47:49.490 --> 47:51.970] And it's just a $40 tool. [47:52.430 --> 47:53.630] But if you... [47:53.630 --> 47:55.310] Yeah, it really is worth the money. [47:55.670 --> 47:56.640] If you are... [48:00.730 --> 48:02.950] How many locks is it going to work on anyway? [48:03.590 --> 48:04.490] What's the question? [48:04.930 --> 48:08.430] That tool, how many locks is it likely to work on 60% of the locks? [48:08.970 --> 48:10.750] I didn't find any lock. [48:10.890 --> 48:14.870] Not even the high security 15 pin locks that it doesn't work. [48:15.070 --> 48:16.990] It really rotates the lock fast. [48:17.230 --> 48:18.270] And it's really good. [48:18.670 --> 48:19.670] Why does that open it? [48:20.230 --> 48:21.030] No, it doesn't open it. [48:21.030 --> 48:21.970] It doesn't open it. [48:22.130 --> 48:27.410] It just rotates it so fast that if you picked it the wrong way, or if you have to turn it twice, you don't have to pick it again. [48:27.610 --> 48:30.370] It just rotates it so fast that a picked lock doesn't reset. [48:30.710 --> 48:30.810] Right. [48:32.270 --> 48:32.890] Thanks, Rob. [48:36.190 --> 48:36.630] Okay. [48:38.310 --> 48:42.510] Also, somebody was talking about, can the lockpick industry design a safe lock? [48:42.770 --> 48:45.030] Of course, they try sometimes. [48:46.110 --> 48:52.110] And they come out with things that people, when they see it, they think, wow, that is a cool lock. [48:52.190 --> 48:53.450] I'm going to put that in my door. [48:54.130 --> 49:04.450] And they design something to prevent people just kicking in their door or prying out the lock because, you know, as I told you with the screw, you can go in and you can just rip the lock out. [49:04.610 --> 49:05.530] It's an easy thing. [49:06.510 --> 49:12.150] They designed a lock that completely moves into your door. [49:12.410 --> 49:14.410] So you don't see any of this on the outside. [49:14.570 --> 49:16.770] You just see a small hole in your door. [49:16.770 --> 49:25.850] And this long key with three sides or four sides will fit in and turn the lock. [49:26.110 --> 49:30.690] Well, unfortunately, this is not the right key for the lock. [49:30.690 --> 49:33.390] It's just another key for this type of lock. [49:33.630 --> 49:35.770] But I have a tool to open it. [49:35.910 --> 49:38.770] So if you want, I can demonstrate it to you. [49:39.830 --> 49:40.310] Okay. [49:47.870 --> 49:51.390] This tool is a hollow pipe. [49:51.810 --> 49:52.330] Let's see. [49:58.390 --> 50:00.330] Anyway, this pipe is hollow. [50:00.670 --> 50:06.010] And it has four little notches on it that work. [50:06.270 --> 50:08.570] What I have in my hands here is the tensioner. [50:08.570 --> 50:10.830] I put the tensioner on the lock. [50:11.230 --> 50:12.990] So normally there would be a hole in the door. [50:13.170 --> 50:15.030] And this would be all the way in the door. [50:15.270 --> 50:17.510] And this is where the key normally enters. [50:17.690 --> 50:21.550] So I put the device in and put tension on the lock. [50:22.410 --> 50:27.090] Now, there's another device with four little raking tools. [50:27.430 --> 50:28.770] I don't know if you can see that. [50:30.770 --> 50:31.630] It looks scary. [50:48.990 --> 50:50.810] It's just the banging on the table. [51:29.560 --> 51:30.640] Well, there we go. [51:48.540 --> 51:49.920] I never said it was easy. [51:50.720 --> 51:50.980] Yeah. [51:51.700 --> 51:53.620] As you can see, it's a pretty good lock. [51:54.520 --> 51:55.220] It's not. [51:59.040 --> 51:59.480] Okay. [51:59.980 --> 52:01.840] Maybe I need to adjust the set a little bit. [52:07.260 --> 52:10.040] Anyway, this is a handmade pick set. [52:10.040 --> 52:15.740] And there also is an official version that you can buy from HPC that does a little better job. [52:17.380 --> 52:19.340] But it's very expensive. [52:19.340 --> 52:20.440] It's like $250. [52:21.500 --> 52:27.920] On the other hand, this lock has been used in Holland on almost every door as an extra lock. [52:28.100 --> 52:30.280] So you have one normal Euro cylinder lock. [52:30.560 --> 52:36.060] And many people use this as their extra lock because it's completely in the door. [52:36.060 --> 52:43.000] And for a junkie with a crowbar, it's very easy to get to it. [52:44.680 --> 52:47.920] Is that burglary going down because of this, by the way? [52:48.480 --> 52:49.760] No, they take the back door. [52:52.720 --> 52:54.060] That sounds good. [52:55.140 --> 52:55.620] Yeah. [52:55.960 --> 52:56.960] Well, demonstration effect. [52:56.960 --> 52:58.200] It doesn't work. [52:58.360 --> 53:02.440] But maybe Hans can talk to you and I can keep trying. [53:03.000 --> 53:04.000] I can talk to them. [53:04.000 --> 53:04.400] Okay. [53:05.740 --> 53:06.340] Let's see. [53:06.520 --> 53:07.320] What else do we have? [53:08.240 --> 53:09.120] Can I ask you a question? [53:09.400 --> 53:09.760] Oh, yeah. [53:09.900 --> 53:10.020] Sure. [53:12.900 --> 53:13.340] Okay. [53:13.520 --> 53:15.020] So it is possible with the mag locks. [53:15.600 --> 53:16.100] Question one. [53:16.300 --> 53:16.840] Question two. [53:16.940 --> 53:19.580] What about the little locks that they have on the casino machines? [53:21.680 --> 53:23.140] Another one for a circuit? [53:31.120 --> 53:31.440] Oh. [53:31.920 --> 53:32.540] A tubular. [53:37.080 --> 53:38.880] I wanted to ask about that type. [53:38.980 --> 53:39.440] A tubular. [53:39.440 --> 53:41.000] Because it seems pretty different. [53:41.360 --> 53:44.980] Those for cars, they have that one little piece of metal that covers up the hole. [53:45.140 --> 53:48.580] So it would make it very hard for you to use some tools to get in. [53:48.980 --> 53:50.400] And I don't want to steal any cars. [53:50.560 --> 53:52.880] But I'm saying, do they have things for that too? [53:52.980 --> 53:55.820] To hold that metal piece aside so you can actually use the... [53:56.700 --> 54:03.000] Well, most of the time you can hold the metal piece aside by just using your tension wrench. [54:03.000 --> 54:06.520] But I use that too because I know how to pick some locks. [54:08.340 --> 54:11.120] Those things bend real quickly for that because they... [54:11.120 --> 54:11.820] Unless you get a... [54:11.820 --> 54:12.120] Do they? [54:13.400 --> 54:13.880] Well... [54:13.880 --> 54:14.720] The least that I have. [54:14.740 --> 54:16.980] You apply too much pressure most likely. [54:17.180 --> 54:17.280] Okay. [54:18.860 --> 54:20.980] These kind of locks, they are called tubular. [54:21.640 --> 54:23.180] And yeah, you can pick them. [54:24.660 --> 54:25.140] Camera? [54:25.300 --> 54:25.600] Sorry. [54:25.900 --> 54:26.720] In front of the camera. [54:28.000 --> 54:28.840] Where am I? [54:29.880 --> 54:30.680] This type? [54:31.240 --> 54:31.720] Right? [54:33.080 --> 54:34.400] Yeah, you can pick them. [54:35.200 --> 54:41.780] And there are even special sets available to make life even easier. [54:42.580 --> 54:43.940] They are not too hard. [54:44.520 --> 54:47.000] Is there a fundamental difference between how you go about it? [54:47.180 --> 54:50.020] Because, I mean, do you hold the thing aside? [54:50.160 --> 54:51.680] No, there's no fundamental difference. [54:52.280 --> 54:52.800] No. [54:53.080 --> 54:54.040] It's actually one of these. [54:54.600 --> 54:55.580] Yeah, absolutely. [54:56.300 --> 54:57.920] What about the magnetic locks? [54:58.440 --> 54:59.980] What about the magnetic locks? [55:00.760 --> 55:04.200] I don't have any experience with magnetic locks. [55:04.820 --> 55:06.700] Do you know if it is possible though? [55:06.820 --> 55:08.540] Or is it something that's been stumped for locks? [55:09.040 --> 55:11.180] Or is it something that hasn't been stumped? [55:11.280 --> 55:12.220] Something that was figured out? [55:15.480 --> 55:18.280] We're just looking into that one. [55:20.740 --> 55:22.720] You need special tools. [55:22.900 --> 55:25.540] At least special tools to be able to pick a lock like that. [55:26.040 --> 55:30.820] And there are some very ingenious locks available using magnet. [55:30.820 --> 55:34.440] And I guess we brought some of them over. [55:34.780 --> 55:37.920] Do you guys consider magnetic strips like the ones used for the hotel rooms? [55:38.100 --> 55:39.240] Is that part of lock picking? [55:39.480 --> 55:40.640] Or would that be just taking a reader? [55:42.160 --> 55:43.780] That wouldn't be part of lock picking. [55:44.020 --> 55:44.280] No. [55:47.040 --> 55:47.880] Oh, I got it. [55:48.080 --> 55:48.360] I got it. [55:48.420 --> 55:50.980] Does the website have links to the German championship? [55:51.420 --> 55:51.720] Yes. [55:51.820 --> 55:52.560] Yes, we do. [55:53.460 --> 55:57.180] You have, if you want to write down, there's two links you must visit. [55:57.180 --> 56:00.100] Then there's lockpicking.nl and lockpicking.org. [56:00.380 --> 56:02.620] And org is the Germans, because they were there first. [56:03.520 --> 56:04.000] And [56:09.680 --> 56:12.760] two pins per cylinder, or is it just two? [56:13.020 --> 56:14.220] No, it's ten. [56:14.540 --> 56:16.360] It's five on the bottom, five on the top. [56:16.740 --> 56:20.520] No, but per cylinder, for vertical shaft? [56:21.000 --> 56:21.040] For chamber. [56:21.520 --> 56:22.280] For chamber. [56:22.560 --> 56:22.980] For chamber, yes. [56:23.120 --> 56:23.660] It's only two. [56:23.840 --> 56:24.480] It's only two. [56:25.100 --> 56:25.180] Yeah. [56:25.440 --> 56:27.420] Americans have more than two, usually. [56:27.860 --> 56:32.000] Well, you can have more than two, but the only... [56:32.000 --> 56:34.380] One of the keys that will fit the same lockpicking. [56:34.380 --> 56:34.680] Indeed. [56:35.080 --> 56:36.840] Yeah, you can have a master key at that time. [56:36.960 --> 56:37.200] Right. [56:37.840 --> 56:38.860] Those don't have that. [56:39.760 --> 56:40.780] No, not these. [56:41.020 --> 56:44.940] You can make one yourself, if you want to, but... [56:44.940 --> 56:45.740] Yes? [56:45.960 --> 56:48.000] Could you show us how to pick a tubular lockpick? [56:48.100 --> 56:50.360] I have one that's on the smart jack with T1. [56:50.920 --> 56:52.020] I haven't got the tools. [56:54.300 --> 56:55.280] Do we have a tubular? [56:55.480 --> 56:55.720] No. [56:56.260 --> 56:58.700] No, I didn't bring the tubular pick with me. [56:58.960 --> 57:01.180] I brought so many stuff that... [57:01.180 --> 57:04.240] And we had to come through customs, so... [57:04.240 --> 57:08.160] Maybe the interesting thing to say about the tubular pick is that you can copy it once it's been. [57:08.920 --> 57:13.940] Now, the pick you have for the tubular is a self-setting tool. [57:14.160 --> 57:16.320] And it's a really smart design. [57:17.040 --> 57:20.620] What you do, because you can see all the pins on a tubular lock. [57:20.620 --> 57:31.640] And what the tool is, is nothing more than a blank key with five or seven pins that are exactly aligned on the pins of the lock. [57:31.880 --> 57:36.160] And it has a rubber band, which will prevent the five pins from sliding back. [57:36.160 --> 57:39.000] But if you put enough pressure on it, they will... [57:39.000 --> 57:43.980] The pins of the lock will slide the pins on your pick back. [57:44.340 --> 57:47.820] Until the point where there actually is the sheer line. [57:48.100 --> 57:51.360] So what you do is, you take the pick set. [57:51.560 --> 57:52.780] You align it to zero. [57:52.900 --> 57:54.980] So you push all the pins down on the set. [57:54.980 --> 57:56.440] You put it on the lock. [57:56.580 --> 57:57.160] And then you wiggle. [57:57.840 --> 58:03.220] And while wiggling, the pins on the lock will push the tool into the right position. [58:03.340 --> 58:04.440] And it will open. [58:04.720 --> 58:08.940] And when it's open, you even have a key to that lock. [58:09.220 --> 58:13.040] And it's really one of the smartest pick tools ever invented. [58:13.520 --> 58:16.900] And it's a pity I didn't bring it, because it also is a nice demonstration. [58:17.240 --> 58:22.700] But there's so much more stuff that's more popular now. [58:22.700 --> 58:24.020] What do they cost? [58:25.320 --> 58:27.880] Expensive, like $250, $300. [58:28.140 --> 58:28.600] For a fee? [58:29.380 --> 58:29.680] What? [58:29.940 --> 58:31.280] I think you'll have a cent. [58:31.320 --> 58:31.760] No. [58:32.680 --> 58:33.700] It's only a tool. [58:33.720 --> 58:35.460] So you can use it multiple times. [58:36.220 --> 58:39.380] The thing with that is, though, that you can teach your monkey how to operate it. [58:39.440 --> 58:43.860] Because you only have to put it on the lock, wiggle it, and then the lock will open. [58:43.960 --> 58:45.260] It's really, really simple. [58:46.200 --> 58:48.500] Is there any way to derive the key for other locks? [58:51.040 --> 58:53.260] There's a technique called impressioning. [58:54.220 --> 58:57.020] And I'm not really going into that today. [58:57.380 --> 58:58.880] We could do that some other time. [58:59.260 --> 59:03.040] But it's really a fun technique where you take a blank. [59:03.320 --> 59:07.060] I don't know if you know what a blank is, but a blank is a key with no cuts in it yet. [59:07.220 --> 59:09.920] The way that you have it in the key store. [59:11.600 --> 59:16.380] And what you do is, with a file, you find it extremely thin, especially the top. [59:16.620 --> 59:18.500] You make it very thin, like a razor. [59:18.920 --> 59:23.600] And you put it in the lock with a special grip, so you can put tension on it. [59:23.920 --> 59:30.200] You push it in the lock, and then you start making pressure on it, and moving it up and down. [59:30.200 --> 59:38.300] Now what will happen is that the pin that's jamming the most will make an impression in that very thin piece of metal of the blank key. [59:38.780 --> 59:41.920] So you take a file, and you take a little bit off. [59:42.100 --> 59:44.500] And you go back in again, and do it again. [59:44.500 --> 59:47.340] And then you get another mark. [59:47.480 --> 59:51.220] And you take a little bit off there, and there you go again. [59:51.340 --> 59:54.340] It's a very time-consuming thing. [59:54.920 --> 01:00:03.820] But it's really a nice method of making a key to a lock that even you may not have ever seen that key, but you can still create a key for that lock. [01:00:03.820 --> 01:00:05.240] Just making that lock-up key. [01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:07.380] And it's really a nice technique. [01:00:09.120 --> 01:00:09.600] Yeah. [01:00:09.600 --> 01:00:11.320] How does a master key work? [01:00:12.620 --> 01:00:14.420] It has to be the right combination. [01:00:15.160 --> 01:00:22.340] A master key, if you can open a lock with a master key, there are more than two pins in each hole. [01:00:24.780 --> 01:00:26.640] So it's not the key itself. [01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:38.520] It's more the locks are modified in such a way that the master key can open all the locks, and they have a special key for each lock as well. [01:00:39.880 --> 01:00:42.540] There's more than one position in the shaft. [01:00:42.660 --> 01:00:43.720] That will open the lock. [01:00:44.020 --> 01:00:46.340] Or that will allow you to rotate the cylinder. [01:00:47.700 --> 01:00:47.960] Yes. [01:00:48.380 --> 01:00:52.760] So it's like the lower pin would be split, like you cut it all. [01:00:52.820 --> 01:00:53.420] Hey, I got it. [01:00:53.580 --> 01:00:53.740] Yeah. [01:00:55.600 --> 01:00:55.640] Yeah. [01:00:56.620 --> 01:00:56.840] Cool. [01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:03.420] With this lock, you have to pick the lock twice, because it goes in two steps. [01:01:04.060 --> 01:01:07.960] That's also with lockpicking, if it doesn't work, just take your time. [01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:09.260] Take a little break. [01:01:09.520 --> 01:01:10.300] Forget about it. [01:01:10.420 --> 01:01:15.040] You can be frantic and go on forever, but then you will never going to get the lock open. [01:01:15.220 --> 01:01:17.880] Just take a little break. [01:01:18.780 --> 01:01:19.180] Zen. [01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:19.520] Zen. [01:01:20.660 --> 01:01:25.320] Even what we do in the shop is you just get a motivation lock, like the 909. [01:01:25.560 --> 01:01:27.920] Open that three times and say, oh, I know I can do it. [01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:28.980] And then... [01:01:31.660 --> 01:01:32.100] Okay. [01:01:32.580 --> 01:01:33.140] That's right there. [01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:34.000] I've got a question. [01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:38.820] For some locks, it's difficult to tell which way to turn it to open the lock itself. [01:01:39.060 --> 01:01:42.180] Can you determine that by looking at the front of the lock, which way it turns? [01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:48.400] No, but normally with some common sense, you think, if I have a key, then I would probably do this. [01:01:48.660 --> 01:01:50.480] And that most of the time is... [01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:50.940] Yeah. [01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:53.020] And otherwise, you know, buy a flip it. [01:01:54.320 --> 01:01:55.480] It takes twice as long. [01:01:55.580 --> 01:01:57.220] You have to do it one way until it doesn't work. [01:01:57.360 --> 01:01:58.680] I'm talking about when you're picking it. [01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:05.360] No, but I mean, when you're picking the lock and you picked it in the wrong way, that's okay, because you still have the lock picked. [01:02:05.820 --> 01:02:13.260] So then you use the flip it and you just put in the flip it and then the flip it will turn it for you. [01:02:14.100 --> 01:02:18.640] So if you picked it to the right, you insert the flip it and the flip it will flip it to the left. [01:02:23.600 --> 01:02:24.060] That's this. [01:02:24.240 --> 01:02:25.140] That's what I just showed. [01:02:27.500 --> 01:02:28.160] In the back? [01:02:33.240 --> 01:02:33.760] Sure. [01:02:34.160 --> 01:02:34.260] Yes. [01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:37.840] Okay. [01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:43.760] Not really. [01:02:43.940 --> 01:02:44.560] No, no, no. [01:02:46.180 --> 01:02:48.480] If you have some... [01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:55.080] If you wanted to start a lot big club in your own town or country, how would you go about it? [01:02:55.900 --> 01:03:11.300] Well, you could contact the Dutch or the German group if you want to start a sport group for yourself and maybe even arrange that you can buy the tools there or they can get you started on tools or maybe on the identity card or whatever. [01:03:12.500 --> 01:03:30.540] But the people that are in these groups are friendly people that are willing to help and they would find it a thrill if sport groups would come out in the States and that we can have the real championship games and not just the German championship but the world games. [01:03:32.400 --> 01:03:34.220] And maybe some Asian groups as well. [01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:35.620] I see some Asian people in the room. [01:03:35.780 --> 01:03:36.940] And, you know, make it global. [01:03:37.120 --> 01:03:37.800] It would be fun. [01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:45.760] In Finland, all the locks are like half a cylinder with a moon-shaped hole. [01:03:45.940 --> 01:03:47.700] Is that easier or harder or why? [01:03:47.700 --> 01:03:47.720] Yeah. [01:03:48.080 --> 01:03:49.840] That's a complete different lock. [01:03:50.020 --> 01:03:50.960] It's called Abloy. [01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:53.500] And there is pick sets for that. [01:03:54.300 --> 01:03:57.300] But that's not something I'm going to discuss now. [01:03:57.420 --> 01:04:01.120] But they also use them here on vending machines and pay phones. [01:04:01.300 --> 01:04:03.640] I've seen Abloys around here a little bit. [01:04:03.640 --> 01:04:08.720] It's just it has an half open shape like a half a moon or something. [01:04:09.120 --> 01:04:09.980] That's the key. [01:04:11.360 --> 01:04:11.880] Yeah? [01:04:12.160 --> 01:04:14.720] What about key locks on the back of combination locks? [01:04:15.040 --> 01:04:16.420] Is that just the same idea? [01:04:16.780 --> 01:04:17.320] What's that? [01:04:18.120 --> 01:04:19.580] Key locks on the back of combination. [01:04:21.200 --> 01:04:22.860] I don't know that. [01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:28.500] It's just a normal combination lock but you can also open it with a key. [01:04:28.700 --> 01:04:29.260] Ah, okay. [01:04:29.400 --> 01:04:30.960] Well, then you must open it with a key. [01:04:31.140 --> 01:04:31.500] Right. [01:04:32.460 --> 01:04:32.980] Yeah. [01:04:32.980 --> 01:04:34.260] Okay. [01:04:34.660 --> 01:04:38.940] I think I will demonstrate a few more difficult to pick locks. [01:04:39.160 --> 01:04:42.200] Or at least what's claimed to be difficult or strange. [01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:47.380] I will show you something. [01:04:51.930 --> 01:04:52.790] Flip it. [01:04:54.350 --> 01:04:59.310] Okay, so we learned that the normal locks have normally five pins. [01:04:59.590 --> 01:05:01.890] Or at least five sets of two pins. [01:05:01.890 --> 01:05:07.610] But we just call that a five pin lock because the pins that you can touch are five pins. [01:05:07.790 --> 01:05:09.550] And that's the five pins that you're going to set. [01:05:11.090 --> 01:05:20.610] In Europe, they started a long time ago with these so-called computer keys or keys that have many, many holes in crazy positions. [01:05:20.990 --> 01:05:21.810] Like these. [01:05:24.290 --> 01:05:26.510] As I just showed you. [01:05:27.970 --> 01:05:32.750] And when you take a lock like that apart, it looks a little bit like this. [01:05:32.910 --> 01:05:36.210] You see five holes, five holes, five holes. [01:05:36.210 --> 01:05:38.390] It has pins everywhere. [01:05:46.100 --> 01:05:48.000] Now, there's good news and there's bad news. [01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:51.480] The bad news is that there's 15 pins. [01:05:51.900 --> 01:05:56.580] The good news is that the key is small. [01:05:56.580 --> 01:05:57.280] It's thin. [01:05:57.660 --> 01:06:04.860] And because there are holes on all the sides of the key, the key cuts can never be deep. [01:06:05.040 --> 01:06:14.480] Because sometimes with a normal lock, like this, with a normal key, you see that you have a very deep cut and you have a high cut. [01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:22.860] And the difference between the highest cut possible and the lowest cut possible is the number of combinations possible. [01:06:23.340 --> 01:06:27.940] And with this, you can only make a very thin hole. [01:06:28.160 --> 01:06:40.220] So, if you put tension on the lock and you go in with the appropriate pick set for this, just touching the pin might set it. [01:06:40.220 --> 01:06:46.160] Just because there's only a little bit of power needed to get it to the right position. [01:06:46.760 --> 01:06:48.120] Sometimes you over push it. [01:06:48.320 --> 01:06:55.760] But at the beginning when I saw these type of locks, I thought it was not possible to pick them because it's just 15 pins. [01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:57.500] That's really a lot of pins. [01:06:58.720 --> 01:07:00.620] But I found that it was possible. [01:07:05.690 --> 01:07:09.950] Now, this is a LIPS Octro. [01:07:11.170 --> 01:07:15.110] It's one of the popular security locks in Europe. [01:07:15.330 --> 01:07:17.590] Because it has 15 pins in them. [01:07:18.030 --> 01:07:18.570] I just showed you. [01:07:18.910 --> 01:07:20.650] Do you have your multiplier with you? [01:07:21.330 --> 01:07:22.010] The thing? [01:07:22.290 --> 01:07:23.110] The tongue? [01:07:23.350 --> 01:07:23.830] The tongue? [01:07:24.050 --> 01:07:24.350] Yeah, sure. [01:07:25.810 --> 01:07:31.710] This is quite a modern lock because it is protected against pulling out of the door with the screw. [01:07:31.710 --> 01:07:34.130] And I can show you that. [01:07:36.450 --> 01:07:44.790] They made an extra hardened stainless steel mechanism that you cannot pull this lock out of a door. [01:07:45.310 --> 01:07:51.090] And it's supposed to be really secure and you're not allowed to copy the keys of it. [01:07:51.090 --> 01:07:55.730] And it's one of the higher security locks. [01:07:56.070 --> 01:08:01.050] Now, what I use to open it is nothing more than a tensioner and this. [01:08:02.850 --> 01:08:03.550] Let's see. [01:08:07.230 --> 01:08:09.970] It's just a little L-shaped tool. [01:08:10.410 --> 01:08:13.830] And I use it to hit the pins. [01:08:14.130 --> 01:08:19.150] Just moving left and right and up because that's where the pins are. [01:08:19.150 --> 01:08:20.490] They're here, here and here. [01:08:20.970 --> 01:08:23.450] And what I do is I will just put tension on the lock. [01:08:24.030 --> 01:08:27.630] And then try to set all 15 pins one of the time. [01:08:29.110 --> 01:08:32.470] Find the pins that are going smoothly. [01:08:33.510 --> 01:08:35.290] And let's see how far I can get. [01:08:38.210 --> 01:08:39.510] This might take some time. [01:08:39.690 --> 01:08:45.110] So maybe Hans can entertain you with a funny story about mother-in-law. [01:08:45.370 --> 01:08:45.430] Funny stories. [01:08:47.890 --> 01:08:49.130] I haven't got one. [01:08:49.370 --> 01:08:50.670] Maybe someone has a... [01:08:50.670 --> 01:08:53.110] Which is a funny story, but... [01:08:53.110 --> 01:08:54.310] Any questions? [01:08:54.830 --> 01:08:54.950] Yeah. [01:08:55.030 --> 01:08:57.580] What do you think about picking them? [01:08:58.500 --> 01:08:59.420] How do they work? [01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:02.760] They work very fast. [01:09:04.300 --> 01:09:05.160] Pick guns. [01:09:05.280 --> 01:09:06.240] How do pick guns work? [01:09:06.400 --> 01:09:06.960] And what do you think about them? [01:09:06.980 --> 01:09:07.180] Electro picks. [01:09:07.780 --> 01:09:09.220] How do they work? [01:09:10.260 --> 01:09:16.500] I don't know if you're familiar with the game where you have a number of metal balls. [01:09:16.500 --> 01:09:17.580] Hanging. [01:09:17.980 --> 01:09:20.820] And you pick one ball and release it. [01:09:21.380 --> 01:09:28.000] And the only ball that will actually move at that time is the ball on the other end. [01:09:29.620 --> 01:09:33.560] That's basically the principle of a pick gun and electro pick as well. [01:09:34.380 --> 01:09:48.980] What you try to do is hit all the pins inside the lock at the same time in such a way that the upper pins are ejected into the base. [01:09:48.980 --> 01:09:50.000] Open, open, open. [01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:50.940] Oh, cool. [01:09:58.690 --> 01:10:01.270] Okay, so to interrupt your story. [01:10:01.490 --> 01:10:01.690] Yeah. [01:10:01.850 --> 01:10:02.150] I'm sorry. [01:10:04.090 --> 01:10:12.130] When you open a high security lock like this, the first time I bought a lock and actually opened it, I was really happy that it worked. [01:10:12.130 --> 01:10:20.530] And I moved it to a 45 degree angle and I was surprised that all the pins just came out and I was like, what the hell is this? [01:10:20.730 --> 01:10:21.510] But it's open. [01:10:21.510 --> 01:10:32.610] So, if you pick a lock like this, take a key, take half of it and put it in, then you can safely turn it. [01:10:32.730 --> 01:10:37.830] But if you don't do this, you're in big trouble because you will ruin the lock. [01:10:37.830 --> 01:10:50.430] And that is, there's a difference between this lock, which has an open gate, as I shall call it, and this older model that is closed. [01:10:50.630 --> 01:10:55.630] And with the closed one, you don't need to put a half key in there. [01:10:55.850 --> 01:11:04.270] But with the open ones, make sure that you have a half key around to open it because you will get in big trouble. [01:11:04.270 --> 01:11:05.830] Back to the big guns. [01:11:05.970 --> 01:11:07.150] Okay, back to the big guns. [01:11:08.110 --> 01:11:12.370] So, what you try to do is, a big gun has a needle. [01:11:12.650 --> 01:11:26.410] You put it inside the lock and then put enough energy on it so that the lower parts of, or the lower pins, will stay at that position. [01:11:26.750 --> 01:11:29.050] And you only eject the upper pins. [01:11:29.050 --> 01:11:41.450] And if you do that and follow that motion with just a little delay with your tensioner, then you can open a lock. [01:11:41.650 --> 01:11:45.250] And it's fairly easy to do once you know the technique. [01:11:45.490 --> 01:11:46.690] It's a special technique. [01:11:46.690 --> 01:11:50.430] With an electropick, things are even easier. [01:11:50.810 --> 01:12:01.510] Because that thing will vibrate in such a high frequency, it's even easier to pick a lock using such a tool. [01:12:02.490 --> 01:12:04.510] But then again, this is more fun. [01:12:05.230 --> 01:12:08.370] Because this is really solving a puzzle. [01:12:08.650 --> 01:12:11.930] While the other is using a technique to open a lock. [01:12:17.700 --> 01:12:20.480] I don't know if we have any, but the technique is similar. [01:12:21.100 --> 01:12:23.600] And it's much easier to open a wafer lock. [01:12:24.540 --> 01:12:25.360] A wafer. [01:12:26.020 --> 01:12:34.580] A wafer lock doesn't have any pins but metal plates that you have to move in a special order. [01:12:34.580 --> 01:12:39.840] And the tool to use on a wafer lock is... [01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:41.360] Oops, where am I? [01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:42.500] Something like this. [01:12:43.100 --> 01:12:45.680] Either this or a tool called E8. [01:12:45.980 --> 01:12:51.600] Which has two of those round shapes on top. [01:12:52.380 --> 01:12:54.640] That's a tool to use on a wafer lock. [01:12:54.880 --> 01:12:56.380] They're fairly easy to open. [01:12:56.380 --> 01:12:59.380] Is that W-A-F-F-L-E or... [01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:01.520] Wafer. [01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:02.320] Wafer. [01:13:02.440 --> 01:13:02.600] Wafer. [01:13:02.600 --> 01:13:03.240] W-A-F-E-R. [01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:03.780] Yes. [01:13:07.610 --> 01:13:09.950] Wafer lock is what you find on an office door. [01:13:10.090 --> 01:13:10.390] Yeah. [01:13:11.030 --> 01:13:17.430] You will find these most of the time on cabinets and perhaps even office doors. [01:13:19.390 --> 01:13:20.270] In the back. [01:13:33.210 --> 01:13:34.070] Reverse picking. [01:13:34.650 --> 01:13:35.170] Reverse [01:13:39.970 --> 01:13:40.530] on the way down. [01:13:40.530 --> 01:13:41.210] Hmm. [01:13:41.990 --> 01:13:44.330] Well, I know something called... [01:13:44.330 --> 01:13:47.510] It's actually designed by... [01:13:47.510 --> 01:13:48.350] Okay. [01:13:48.750 --> 01:13:51.010] The question was reverse picking. [01:13:51.510 --> 01:13:58.110] First pushing all the pins down and then letting the tension go and hoping that one by one they will drop back. [01:13:59.710 --> 01:14:04.010] That's difficult and I tried it but it didn't work for me. [01:14:04.650 --> 01:14:12.990] What I did here was about an Israeli invention to open almost any normal lock. [01:14:13.570 --> 01:14:15.310] Wow, this guy is asleep over there. [01:14:15.610 --> 01:14:19.470] That's interesting here at the first row with the... [01:14:19.470 --> 01:14:20.430] Okay. [01:14:20.770 --> 01:14:21.890] That's been a long day. [01:14:22.670 --> 01:14:24.070] Not such an interesting class then. [01:14:24.250 --> 01:14:24.810] Oh, I'm sorry. [01:14:32.310 --> 01:14:33.130] What do we need? [01:14:34.050 --> 01:14:34.690] Ah, okay. [01:14:38.270 --> 01:14:38.830] Okay. [01:14:39.290 --> 01:14:40.150] Israeelic invention. [01:14:40.450 --> 01:14:41.490] Put in a blank. [01:14:41.710 --> 01:14:42.850] In the lock. [01:14:43.310 --> 01:14:43.670] And... [01:14:43.670 --> 01:14:46.650] So pushing all the pins up to the highest level possible. [01:14:46.970 --> 01:14:49.930] And then putting liquid oxygen in it. [01:14:50.070 --> 01:14:50.570] Oxygen. [01:14:50.970 --> 01:14:52.350] No, it's not liquid oxygen [01:14:52.430 --> 01:14:53.190] It's more cold. [01:14:53.390 --> 01:14:54.270] The coldest stuff. [01:14:54.850 --> 01:14:55.410] Uh... [01:14:55.410 --> 01:14:56.170] Uh... [01:14:56.170 --> 01:14:56.630] Uh... [01:14:56.630 --> 01:14:57.210] Liquid nitrogen. [01:14:57.210 --> 01:14:57.610] Uh... [01:14:57.610 --> 01:14:58.210] Liquid nitrogen. [01:14:59.010 --> 01:15:00.910] It will freeze the lock. [01:15:01.190 --> 01:15:02.810] All the pins will stay in place. [01:15:03.090 --> 01:15:03.350] Uh... [01:15:03.350 --> 01:15:07.690] The springs won't work anymore because they're so cold that there's no pressure on it. [01:15:07.830 --> 01:15:09.750] And everything will just be as it is. [01:15:10.370 --> 01:15:12.790] Then what they do is they stick in a hot needle. [01:15:13.150 --> 01:15:17.330] And the top pins will heat up or the bottom pins will heat up first. [01:15:17.650 --> 01:15:19.430] And by gravity fall down. [01:15:19.670 --> 01:15:20.910] And the lock will turn. [01:15:23.310 --> 01:15:26.290] And in Europe all the locks are upside down. [01:15:26.490 --> 01:15:27.450] So the trick doesn't work. [01:15:28.050 --> 01:15:28.250] But... [01:15:29.110 --> 01:15:31.890] But if a lock is mounted like this. [01:15:32.330 --> 01:15:39.150] That is a fairly easy and effective way to break and enter without doing any damage. [01:15:39.990 --> 01:15:42.630] And also about intelligent agencies. [01:15:43.990 --> 01:15:47.910] If you really are afraid that they will go into your house. [01:15:48.490 --> 01:15:50.350] And if you have a reason to believe that. [01:15:51.210 --> 01:15:51.810] Um... [01:15:51.810 --> 01:15:52.710] Just... [01:15:52.710 --> 01:15:59.950] Understand that there is no way of protecting your house against intelligence burglary teams that want to break into your house. [01:16:00.130 --> 01:16:01.090] That's not possible. [01:16:01.410 --> 01:16:04.350] Because if they can break into some embassy. [01:16:04.350 --> 01:16:10.830] You know, what's your house with the medical bi-axial super lock going to help. [01:16:10.950 --> 01:16:11.350] It's not. [01:16:11.790 --> 01:16:12.310] Because... [01:16:12.310 --> 01:16:17.170] I heard of a technique that the Dutch secret service uses to get into houses. [01:16:17.450 --> 01:16:19.710] And they normally can open any lock. [01:16:19.810 --> 01:16:24.070] But if someone is really clever and gets a lock that's really good and they cannot pick it. [01:16:24.070 --> 01:16:26.190] They will... [01:16:26.190 --> 01:16:26.650] They will... [01:16:26.650 --> 01:16:27.850] Make a copy of that lock. [01:16:28.310 --> 01:16:28.730] They... [01:16:28.730 --> 01:16:29.290] An... [01:16:29.290 --> 01:16:29.770] An... [01:16:29.770 --> 01:16:30.670] An outside looking copy. [01:16:30.770 --> 01:16:33.970] So the pins inside, they of course don't know the combination and what... [01:16:33.970 --> 01:16:34.850] What the sizes are. [01:16:35.490 --> 01:16:36.010] But... [01:16:36.010 --> 01:16:39.670] They will try to make a good as possible copy of that lock. [01:16:39.930 --> 01:16:42.110] And they will drill your lock out of your door. [01:16:42.370 --> 01:16:44.490] But leave the lower pins intact. [01:16:45.270 --> 01:16:45.790] So... [01:16:45.790 --> 01:16:47.670] They just replace the lock for you. [01:16:47.750 --> 01:16:50.650] And they put your own inner cylinder back into your lock. [01:16:51.150 --> 01:16:51.670] And... [01:16:51.670 --> 01:16:52.530] It still works. [01:16:52.730 --> 01:16:53.550] It's still high security. [01:16:53.850 --> 01:16:55.410] But they made a copy of your lock. [01:16:55.410 --> 01:16:56.610] And that's... [01:16:56.610 --> 01:16:57.350] That's... [01:16:57.350 --> 01:16:57.590] Just... [01:16:57.590 --> 01:16:58.530] Just forget about it. [01:16:58.630 --> 01:17:00.550] If you really have something to hide... [01:17:01.750 --> 01:17:03.230] There's no way to... [01:17:03.230 --> 01:17:03.710] To hide. [01:17:03.850 --> 01:17:06.250] And if you have anything sensitive, just keep it on you. [01:17:06.650 --> 01:17:07.050] Because... [01:17:07.050 --> 01:17:08.470] They will find it. [01:17:08.770 --> 01:17:09.050] If... [01:17:09.050 --> 01:17:09.930] If that's your concern. [01:17:10.110 --> 01:17:10.890] Don't just open the window. [01:17:11.190 --> 01:17:12.570] They don't go for the lock door. [01:17:12.710 --> 01:17:13.570] They just open the window. [01:17:13.810 --> 01:17:14.110] Okay. [01:17:14.210 --> 01:17:16.650] But some people are paranoid and have a steel door and everything. [01:17:16.730 --> 01:17:16.990] Anyway. [01:17:19.510 --> 01:17:19.910] Uh... [01:17:19.910 --> 01:17:20.510] Okay. [01:17:20.630 --> 01:17:21.230] Well then... [01:17:21.230 --> 01:17:22.990] Maybe the last special lock. [01:17:24.170 --> 01:17:24.730] Um... [01:17:24.730 --> 01:17:26.030] It's called the multi-lock. [01:17:26.710 --> 01:17:27.530] And multi-lock. [01:17:27.950 --> 01:17:28.230] Uh... [01:17:28.510 --> 01:17:30.150] It has this devious looking... [01:17:30.150 --> 01:17:30.790] Uh... [01:17:30.790 --> 01:17:32.130] Key with all the holes in it. [01:17:33.430 --> 01:17:33.990] Um... [01:17:33.990 --> 01:17:34.270] It... [01:17:34.270 --> 01:17:34.470] It... [01:17:34.470 --> 01:17:34.550] It... [01:17:34.550 --> 01:17:37.750] It works the same as the LIPS Octro that I just opened. [01:17:38.130 --> 01:17:41.430] But a little different because it has hollow pins. [01:17:41.930 --> 01:17:44.490] So the pin inside this lock. [01:17:44.630 --> 01:17:44.890] And I... [01:17:44.890 --> 01:17:46.630] I also brought an open version of it. [01:17:46.750 --> 01:17:47.250] But... [01:17:47.250 --> 01:17:47.670] Of course... [01:17:47.670 --> 01:17:48.930] This doesn't do any good. [01:17:49.610 --> 01:17:50.110] Um... [01:17:50.110 --> 01:17:51.170] It has a hollow pin. [01:17:52.370 --> 01:17:52.850] And... [01:17:52.850 --> 01:17:54.050] Inside the pin is another pin. [01:17:54.530 --> 01:17:55.750] So that's pin in pin. [01:17:56.090 --> 01:17:56.570] And... [01:17:56.570 --> 01:17:57.850] When you look at the key. [01:17:58.070 --> 01:17:59.710] You see that it's not only a hole. [01:18:00.030 --> 01:18:02.530] But it's a hole with either a smaller hole in there. [01:18:02.730 --> 01:18:04.670] Or a hole with either something sticking out. [01:18:05.090 --> 01:18:07.430] Sticking the inner pin to a certain level. [01:18:07.430 --> 01:18:08.190] And... [01:18:08.190 --> 01:18:09.290] That really... [01:18:09.290 --> 01:18:10.070] Uh... [01:18:10.070 --> 01:18:10.410] Is... [01:18:10.410 --> 01:18:10.810] Is... [01:18:10.810 --> 01:18:11.530] Is freaking people out. [01:18:11.630 --> 01:18:12.790] They say, wow, pin in pin. [01:18:13.010 --> 01:18:13.330] And... [01:18:13.330 --> 01:18:14.550] So you have five pins. [01:18:14.770 --> 01:18:15.790] With an inner pin. [01:18:15.910 --> 01:18:16.870] So that's ten pins. [01:18:17.390 --> 01:18:17.850] Uh... [01:18:17.850 --> 01:18:20.030] All mounted in this small... [01:18:20.030 --> 01:18:20.490] Uh... [01:18:20.490 --> 01:18:20.810] Gap. [01:18:21.810 --> 01:18:22.330] Um... [01:18:22.330 --> 01:18:22.950] But it's doable. [01:18:23.910 --> 01:18:24.950] You can... [01:18:24.950 --> 01:18:25.350] Uh... [01:18:25.350 --> 01:18:27.030] Open them with... [01:18:27.030 --> 01:18:27.470] Uh... [01:18:27.470 --> 01:18:28.750] Just a simple piece of metal. [01:18:28.990 --> 01:18:29.490] Like this. [01:18:29.610 --> 01:18:31.210] It's a smaller L-shaped... [01:18:31.210 --> 01:18:32.570] Thing than I just... [01:18:32.570 --> 01:18:33.010] Uh... [01:18:33.010 --> 01:18:33.350] Used. [01:18:34.070 --> 01:18:35.750] Let's see where the other one is. [01:18:41.690 --> 01:18:42.130] Um... [01:18:42.130 --> 01:18:42.930] Hmm... [01:18:42.930 --> 01:18:43.310] Okay. [01:18:43.490 --> 01:18:43.830] I got it. [01:18:43.950 --> 01:18:44.230] I got it. [01:18:44.370 --> 01:18:44.950] Now I got it. [01:18:45.650 --> 01:18:45.710] I got it. [01:18:47.730 --> 01:18:48.610] And actually... [01:18:49.150 --> 01:18:49.590] Um... [01:18:49.590 --> 01:18:51.450] They used to be together like this. [01:18:53.630 --> 01:18:54.510] But I... [01:18:54.510 --> 01:18:54.710] Uh... [01:18:54.710 --> 01:18:55.310] Cut them in two. [01:18:55.330 --> 01:18:57.070] So they could fit into my... [01:18:57.070 --> 01:18:57.650] Uh... [01:18:57.650 --> 01:18:58.550] KGB pig set. [01:18:59.490 --> 01:18:59.930] So... [01:19:00.950 --> 01:19:01.390] Um... [01:19:01.390 --> 01:19:02.050] Let's see. [01:19:02.730 --> 01:19:03.950] Over here I got a lock. [01:19:04.090 --> 01:19:04.150] Yup. [01:19:04.390 --> 01:19:06.210] I don't think that there's any one... [01:19:06.210 --> 01:19:06.790] Any... [01:19:07.010 --> 01:19:07.310] Uh... [01:19:07.310 --> 01:19:08.550] Nice visual effect. [01:19:08.730 --> 01:19:09.630] So I will just... [01:19:09.630 --> 01:19:10.530] Try to open it. [01:19:11.150 --> 01:19:11.370] Uh... [01:19:11.370 --> 01:19:12.910] Maybe some people have... [01:19:12.910 --> 01:19:13.710] Uh... [01:19:13.710 --> 01:19:14.010] Questions? [01:19:14.930 --> 01:19:17.210] You mentioned most of the locks there have... [01:19:17.850 --> 01:19:18.370] Uh... [01:19:18.370 --> 01:19:18.630] Uh... [01:19:18.630 --> 01:19:18.830] Uh... [01:19:18.830 --> 01:19:18.990] Five... [01:19:19.790 --> 01:19:20.310] Uh... [01:19:20.310 --> 01:19:20.610] Five... [01:19:20.610 --> 01:19:21.290] Uh... [01:19:22.350 --> 01:19:22.790] Uh... [01:19:22.790 --> 01:19:24.250] Any of them have more than five? [01:19:24.650 --> 01:19:25.570] Yes, they are there. [01:19:25.870 --> 01:19:26.350] Um... [01:19:26.350 --> 01:19:27.370] How large do they make them? [01:19:30.590 --> 01:19:31.110] Um... [01:19:31.110 --> 01:19:31.770] Commercially? [01:19:32.870 --> 01:19:33.390] Well... [01:19:33.390 --> 01:19:33.450] Up... [01:19:33.450 --> 01:19:33.810] Up... [01:19:33.810 --> 01:19:34.490] Up... [01:19:34.490 --> 01:19:34.750] Two... [01:19:34.750 --> 01:19:34.810] Two... [01:19:34.810 --> 01:19:35.090] Ten... [01:19:35.090 --> 01:19:35.730] I'd say. [01:19:36.630 --> 01:19:37.150] For... [01:19:37.150 --> 01:19:37.810] One key. [01:19:40.010 --> 01:19:40.530] Uh... [01:19:40.530 --> 01:19:41.030] More questions? [01:19:41.390 --> 01:19:41.690] Yeah. [01:19:44.810 --> 01:19:45.330] Um... [01:19:45.330 --> 01:19:45.450] No. [01:19:46.490 --> 01:19:46.670] No. [01:19:47.790 --> 01:19:48.310] Uh... [01:19:48.310 --> 01:19:51.770] Does intelligence service have special picks to speed up their pickings? [01:19:52.030 --> 01:19:55.650] They can't wait two or three minutes and they have to get in in less than a minute. [01:19:55.650 --> 01:19:56.930] They use pick guns. [01:19:57.290 --> 01:19:57.350] Yeah. [01:19:57.570 --> 01:19:58.330] They use what? [01:19:58.530 --> 01:19:59.150] Pick guns. [01:20:00.090 --> 01:20:03.990] You have high speed electronic pick guns with uh... [01:20:03.990 --> 01:20:05.090] It's really something. [01:20:05.370 --> 01:20:05.750] It's... [01:20:05.750 --> 01:20:06.110] It works. [01:20:06.110 --> 01:20:06.210] It works. [01:20:06.610 --> 01:20:09.390] And also commercial uh... [01:20:09.390 --> 01:20:12.470] Companies that open doors for people sometimes uh... [01:20:12.470 --> 01:20:12.730] Use that. [01:20:14.230 --> 01:20:14.350] Yeah. [01:20:14.730 --> 01:20:14.990] Over there. [01:20:21.010 --> 01:20:21.610] Um... [01:20:21.610 --> 01:20:23.370] Well, since I'm not from the U.S. [01:20:23.990 --> 01:20:24.590] Uh... [01:20:24.590 --> 01:20:24.750] Uh... [01:20:24.750 --> 01:20:26.890] I have very little experience with Medeco. [01:20:27.670 --> 01:20:28.270] Um... [01:20:28.270 --> 01:20:33.450] I have heard rumors of a pick set available for Medeco so you can pick the lock. [01:20:33.910 --> 01:20:35.210] But um... [01:20:35.210 --> 01:20:38.350] I know for sure that there's something called a decoder. [01:20:39.210 --> 01:20:39.710] And it's... [01:20:39.710 --> 01:20:40.270] It's uh... [01:20:41.030 --> 01:20:41.510] Um... [01:20:41.510 --> 01:20:43.730] A feeling device that goes into the lock. [01:20:44.150 --> 01:20:46.210] And actually measures the pins. [01:20:46.850 --> 01:20:49.910] And then it will tell you what pins are in the lock. [01:20:50.290 --> 01:20:51.150] And uh... [01:20:51.150 --> 01:20:54.470] You can program that into a computerized key cutter. [01:20:54.810 --> 01:20:55.950] And it will make you the key. [01:20:55.950 --> 01:20:56.850] But... [01:20:56.850 --> 01:20:58.950] That set is only available uh... [01:21:00.090 --> 01:21:00.570] Uh... [01:21:00.570 --> 01:21:01.110] Uh... [01:21:01.110 --> 01:21:01.670] Intelligence agencies. [01:21:02.090 --> 01:21:02.510] So... [01:21:02.510 --> 01:21:02.750] Uh... [01:21:02.750 --> 01:21:02.930] If... [01:21:02.930 --> 01:21:06.450] If you buy that with the normal burglar you're not going to have any trouble. [01:21:12.490 --> 01:21:12.970] Yep. [01:21:13.770 --> 01:21:15.990] Do you have any antique locks? [01:21:16.210 --> 01:21:18.910] Can you tell us something about locks from a long time ago? [01:21:20.010 --> 01:21:20.490] Uh... [01:21:20.490 --> 01:21:20.810] Yeah. [01:21:20.810 --> 01:21:21.250] I could. [01:21:21.390 --> 01:21:23.130] But I think we're running out of time. [01:21:23.370 --> 01:21:23.810] And uh... [01:21:23.810 --> 01:21:25.250] That also requires uh... [01:21:25.810 --> 01:21:26.430] Special pick sets. [01:21:27.490 --> 01:21:27.730] Uh... [01:21:27.730 --> 01:21:28.770] And I don't have that with me. [01:21:28.950 --> 01:21:29.250] So... [01:21:29.250 --> 01:21:29.850] Uh... [01:21:29.850 --> 01:21:32.910] It's a little bit difficult to explain something if you don't have the lock. [01:21:33.070 --> 01:21:33.550] And the keys. [01:21:33.790 --> 01:21:34.250] And the pick sets. [01:21:34.970 --> 01:21:35.410] So... [01:21:36.010 --> 01:21:36.450] Um... [01:21:36.450 --> 01:21:36.970] Next time. [01:21:38.590 --> 01:21:39.010] Well... [01:21:39.010 --> 01:21:43.070] Could you tell us is the modern locks better than the old locks that we had a hundred years ago? [01:21:43.730 --> 01:21:44.450] Not really. [01:21:44.590 --> 01:21:44.950] Not really. [01:21:45.250 --> 01:21:46.010] Not really. [01:21:49.930 --> 01:21:50.350] No. [01:21:50.490 --> 01:21:54.950] That's why you still when you buy a safe or when you go to the bank and you see their vaults... [01:22:06.530 --> 01:22:06.950] Uh... [01:22:06.950 --> 01:22:07.290] Can I have a question? [01:22:08.170 --> 01:22:08.790] Over there? [01:22:09.050 --> 01:22:18.110] On the locks you're working on now, the grooves or the tracks, I don't know if you're calling the key or the locks that make it any harder to get the door in? [01:22:19.630 --> 01:22:20.070] Um... [01:22:20.070 --> 01:22:20.550] With... [01:22:20.550 --> 01:22:22.050] That's the kind of lock that I have in my door. [01:22:22.210 --> 01:22:22.790] That's why I'm at it. [01:22:23.070 --> 01:22:23.730] The multi-lock? [01:22:23.730 --> 01:22:24.290] Yeah. [01:22:24.490 --> 01:22:24.630] Ah. [01:22:24.850 --> 01:22:25.830] The exact one that you're running. [01:22:26.470 --> 01:22:27.030] Exactly. [01:22:27.790 --> 01:22:28.350] Okay. [01:22:29.190 --> 01:22:29.750] Um... [01:22:29.750 --> 01:22:31.550] No, it doesn't make a difference for me. [01:22:31.750 --> 01:22:32.290] I can... [01:22:32.290 --> 01:22:32.890] No, not at all. [01:22:34.890 --> 01:22:37.910] It's not well designed for anti-picking. [01:22:38.250 --> 01:22:42.850] It looks like it's anti-picking, but it's fairly easy. [01:22:42.990 --> 01:22:43.570] I hope. [01:22:44.830 --> 01:22:51.210] How difficult are cargo locks compared to your average household door locks? [01:22:51.890 --> 01:22:52.830] Easy as hell. [01:22:54.730 --> 01:22:55.790] No, I'm serious. [01:22:56.130 --> 01:22:56.470] I mean... [01:22:56.470 --> 01:22:57.250] Depends on the car, I think. [01:22:57.890 --> 01:23:05.730] But, I mean, what good does a car lock do you when you can take a brick and throw in a window? [01:23:05.970 --> 01:23:07.850] Because that's what is going to happen anyway. [01:23:08.370 --> 01:23:16.050] And if you don't have a real expensive car like a Mercedes or a Porsche, your lock is probably worth 50 cents or something. [01:23:16.230 --> 01:23:18.990] They don't spend any money on locks in cars. [01:23:18.990 --> 01:23:20.490] They're easy to open. [01:23:20.690 --> 01:23:23.530] All wafer locks and fairly simple. [01:23:23.530 --> 01:23:23.550] But then you will get into the store when they go down. [01:23:23.550 --> 01:23:23.730] But here I have a little slur Travis, shark Slide 11, where you. [01:23:23.730 --> 01:23:23.770] I've been able to see.