WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:03.460 Get ready to go off the planet. 00:06.820 --> 00:08.460 Get ready. 00:20.460 --> 00:24.780 The Digital Dogpong presents Binary Revolution Radio. 00:24.780 --> 00:26.480 Now launch the base. 00:30.000 --> 00:59.980 The Digital Dogpong presents Binary Revolution Radio. 01:00.000 --> 01:02.000 The Digital Dogpong presents Binary Revolution Radio. 01:02.000 --> 01:04.000 The Digital Dogpong presents Binary Revolution Radio. 01:04.000 --> 01:08.000 Get ready to hack the planet. 01:08.000 --> 01:12.000 Hack the planet. 01:12.000 --> 01:14.000 Hack the system. 01:14.000 --> 01:16.000 Hack us unite. 01:16.000 --> 01:18.000 Get ready. 01:18.000 --> 01:22.000 Hack the system. 01:22.000 --> 01:24.000 Hack the system. 01:24.000 --> 01:26.000 Hack the system. 01:26.000 --> 01:28.000 Hack the system. 01:28.000 --> 01:30.000 Hack the system. 01:30.000 --> 01:32.000 Hack the system. 01:32.000 --> 01:34.000 Hack the system. 01:34.000 --> 01:36.000 Hack the system. 01:36.000 --> 01:38.000 Hack the system. 01:38.000 --> 01:40.000 Hack the system. 01:40.000 --> 01:46.000 Hack the system. 01:46.000 --> 01:50.000 ECHO FANNIT 01:50.000 --> 02:00.000 KISS LIGHT 02:00.000 --> 02:02.000 ECHO SUNITE 02:02.000 --> 02:08.000 ECHO SUNITE 02:08.000 --> 02:12.000 ECHO FANNIT 02:12.000 --> 02:14.000 ECHO FANNIT 02:14.000 --> 02:16.000 ECHO 02:16.000 --> 02:18.000 Now act the system 02:18.000 --> 02:28.000 Get ready to act the system 02:28.000 --> 02:32.000 Get ready to act the planet 02:32.000 --> 02:34.000 ECHO 02:34.000 --> 02:36.000 ECHO 02:36.000 --> 02:38.000 ECHO 02:38.000 --> 03:07.980 We'll be right back. 03:08.000 --> 03:37.980 We'll be right back. 03:38.000 --> 04:07.980 We'll be right back. 04:07.980 --> 04:37.960 We'll be right back. 04:37.960 --> 04:39.260 I bootlegged your CD. 04:39.680 --> 04:41.820 I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z. 04:42.160 --> 04:44.040 Your CG, it's all gonna be free. 04:44.160 --> 04:46.360 Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely. 04:46.840 --> 04:48.340 You feel that rattle in your bones? 04:48.620 --> 04:50.540 When I tell you we just hacked out Jones. 04:50.840 --> 04:52.700 And Nasdaq leaves you flat on your back. 04:52.700 --> 04:55.000 Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack. 04:55.220 --> 04:57.760 Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack. 04:58.180 --> 05:01.040 This is dedicated to the hackers and the creepers. 05:01.340 --> 05:05.760 Serial codes, source codes, ISOs, RANs, Sips, Sips. 05:06.140 --> 05:08.480 This is dedicated to the hackers and the crack. 05:08.480 --> 05:12.120 Yo, yo, yo, what up peeps? 05:12.520 --> 05:16.660 This is the stank D-I-double-G-Y in the house. 05:17.200 --> 05:20.500 And I'm joined by my home slice, the one and only. 05:21.500 --> 05:25.560 Land and Quistore, my main Haitian on the Rant Radio station. 05:25.800 --> 05:27.540 Yup, yup, believe that. 05:28.540 --> 05:31.860 Now, we about to open this mother fizzucka. 05:32.160 --> 05:34.220 And go straight into some e-mizzle. 05:34.280 --> 05:34.880 You feel me? 05:35.400 --> 05:36.400 I feel you, Doug. 05:36.500 --> 05:38.200 We gonna open up the e-mizzle right now? 05:39.000 --> 05:39.440 Yeah. 05:39.920 --> 05:41.640 You know, before I go into that, 05:41.640 --> 05:44.020 I need to drop some knowledge on these people. 05:44.840 --> 05:46.440 Obviously, they listening to the stream, 05:46.520 --> 05:51.400 they already know that we done gone changed to Rant Radio talk. 05:52.480 --> 05:54.500 You already know that if you're listening. 05:54.500 --> 05:56.880 But you might want to pass the word out. 05:57.740 --> 05:59.060 They done broke up the channels. 05:59.220 --> 06:01.700 We got three different channels now. 06:01.800 --> 06:02.960 Breaking the music down. 06:03.080 --> 06:04.220 Breaking the talk down. 06:04.360 --> 06:07.780 Keeping everything on nice and organized and shizzled like that. 06:08.360 --> 06:10.300 So, we done updated the site. 06:10.740 --> 06:11.840 BinRev.com. 06:11.940 --> 06:12.520 Check it out. 06:13.040 --> 06:14.540 I ain't hit the graphics yet. 06:15.040 --> 06:16.600 But, if you click on it, 06:16.640 --> 06:18.560 it will take you to the correct stream. 06:19.520 --> 06:23.420 So, you can also, of course, check out the Diggy Dog House. 06:23.420 --> 06:26.040 Check out the forums at BinRev.com 06:26.040 --> 06:29.300 and find the latest information in case anything else changes again. 06:30.640 --> 06:33.500 Now, e-mizzle number one. 06:34.260 --> 06:35.440 Numero uno. 06:37.200 --> 06:41.020 Comes from Cloaked Dagger, 06:41.020 --> 06:44.300 who I mentioned last week on the show. 06:44.860 --> 06:50.820 Actually, I mentioned that someone in the IRC channel 06:50.820 --> 06:55.440 was playing a GMS game or something like that. 06:55.500 --> 06:58.740 I brought it up that someone wanted to record the show 06:58.740 --> 07:00.600 and put it onto CD, 07:00.860 --> 07:02.440 but we had adult material. 07:02.920 --> 07:04.160 Whatever that's all about. 07:04.160 --> 07:06.120 And I couldn't remember who it was. 07:06.200 --> 07:07.320 I think I kind of mentioned it. 07:07.360 --> 07:08.360 Maybe it was Cloaked Dagger. 07:08.500 --> 07:09.920 And he e-mailed me to say, 07:10.400 --> 07:10.780 Nope. 07:11.460 --> 07:12.120 Not me. 07:12.880 --> 07:15.040 So, whoever it was that told me about that, 07:15.080 --> 07:16.140 it was kind of a neat idea. 07:16.320 --> 07:17.240 So, e-mail me. 07:17.920 --> 07:18.780 Letters @ BinRev.com. 07:18.840 --> 07:20.940 Let me know so I can give out proper credit 07:20.940 --> 07:23.120 and maybe some more information or details about it 07:23.120 --> 07:24.920 so I can set the record straight. 07:25.000 --> 07:26.600 I think I was kind of thinking aloud or something 07:26.600 --> 07:27.500 when I said Cloaked Dagger 07:27.500 --> 07:30.580 and I must have got the names mixed up, obviously. 07:30.880 --> 07:36.880 So, I got another e-mizzle from Fake Boy 07:36.880 --> 07:41.340 who spoke unto us as such. 07:44.160 --> 07:47.500 He said there's two tracks that he was curious about. 07:47.580 --> 07:49.480 The track we started last week's show with 07:49.480 --> 07:51.880 and if I know the track that Duel used 07:51.880 --> 07:54.020 from Nerdcore on Radio Freak America, 07:54.200 --> 07:55.760 where can I find these tracks? 07:55.760 --> 07:57.440 All right. 07:57.580 --> 07:58.660 Well, you know, 08:00.200 --> 08:01.900 I can only speak for this show, 08:02.000 --> 08:03.820 but Blaine, I think you probably know about the other one. 08:03.920 --> 08:05.600 Let me just say, first of all, 08:06.480 --> 08:08.040 you mentioned started the show. 08:08.380 --> 08:09.400 Now, we started the show, 08:09.520 --> 08:11.440 we pretty much start the show the same every week. 08:11.500 --> 08:15.040 We got two themes that we mix and match. 08:15.080 --> 08:15.880 We usually play both. 08:15.940 --> 08:17.780 It depends on what mood I'm in, what I feel like. 08:18.080 --> 08:20.340 But I got two different tracks that I start the show with. 08:20.400 --> 08:21.320 One is by Zerl 08:21.320 --> 08:24.000 and the other one is from our good friend Epiphany 08:24.000 --> 08:25.180 at Port 7 Alliance. 08:25.760 --> 08:27.440 Port 7 Alliance.com 08:27.440 --> 08:28.480 if you want to go check them out. 08:28.600 --> 08:29.440 Good friends of ours. 08:30.260 --> 08:31.400 Both of them, however, 08:31.580 --> 08:35.920 are up for download on the radio.binrev.com site 08:35.920 --> 08:39.620 and you can click and download the full MP3s of those songs. 08:39.620 --> 08:43.160 I hope that's what you meant. 08:43.300 --> 08:45.240 Most people ask about the closing music 08:45.240 --> 08:47.500 because I do use different closing music every episode, 08:47.500 --> 08:51.400 which I also, you can link to or download from that same page. 08:51.480 --> 08:53.460 I always tell you who I close the show out with. 08:54.100 --> 08:55.660 It's kind of a good thing for me. 08:55.740 --> 08:58.160 I like to listen and learn new music and hear new stuff. 08:58.160 --> 09:01.020 And I got another new one to close out tonight 09:01.020 --> 09:02.060 that's pretty interesting. 09:02.980 --> 09:05.480 But everything that I use on the show, 09:06.280 --> 09:08.980 I try to put up on the webpage in the show notes. 09:09.160 --> 09:11.340 So you should be able to check that out. 09:11.680 --> 09:13.080 It might not always be at the top. 09:13.140 --> 09:14.760 Maybe you're just not finding it on the page. 09:14.760 --> 09:17.180 But the first time I used it in a show, 09:17.300 --> 09:18.980 I put it in the show notes. 09:19.560 --> 09:22.560 So I think when I first used Epiphanies was, 09:22.760 --> 09:25.360 I don't know, maybe 10 episodes ago or something like that. 09:25.460 --> 09:27.160 So scroll down the page. 09:27.740 --> 09:30.140 And of course, they're all we've been using since day one. 09:30.240 --> 09:32.580 We've been using Dedication of the Hackers and Crackers. 09:33.040 --> 09:35.940 So that's been on probably on the first or second episode. 09:36.120 --> 09:38.140 So you can probably find a link there to download it. 09:38.840 --> 09:40.100 And as far as RFA, 09:40.220 --> 09:42.740 Bland, do you remember what you guys opened and closed with? 09:42.740 --> 09:47.160 Yeah, we opened with MC Chris. 09:47.840 --> 09:50.900 That's Feds Vet is the name of the song. 09:52.320 --> 09:54.880 And you can get that at mcchris.com. 09:55.560 --> 09:58.200 Then you click listen, and it's like towards the bottom. 09:58.760 --> 10:01.740 Pretty much, it's like one of the only two downloads. 10:02.900 --> 10:10.140 And then we closed the show with Bragadachio by MC Frontalot. 10:10.140 --> 10:12.220 That's frontalot.com. 10:12.740 --> 10:17.160 Go there, click on listen, and just download everything, because it's all rad. 10:17.340 --> 10:19.420 It's, yeah, one of my personal favorites. 10:19.700 --> 10:22.760 And I closed out the last episode of BinRev, 10:23.160 --> 10:25.380 which, by the way, welcome to back-to-back episodes. 10:25.520 --> 10:26.380 I just should have mentioned that. 10:26.600 --> 10:27.520 Oh, thank you, thank you. 10:28.340 --> 10:31.880 Closed last week's show with MC Frontalot, Nerdcore Hip Hop. 10:31.880 --> 10:34.720 One of my favorite tracks. 10:35.620 --> 10:37.500 Bragadachio's the other, one of my other favorites. 10:37.680 --> 10:38.960 But they're all so good. 10:39.680 --> 10:40.860 They're all so really good. 10:42.100 --> 10:45.260 So, and you have, are there links to that on the show notes, or? 10:46.020 --> 10:47.280 No, I don't think so. 10:47.360 --> 10:48.360 I think you'll just have to go and get it. 10:48.360 --> 10:52.500 But, yeah, I actually, on the, it is frontalot.com, 10:52.560 --> 10:54.600 and there's a link in BinRev's show notes from last week. 10:54.600 --> 11:00.200 And also on the main page, again, you can link to all the music that we use. 11:00.480 --> 11:02.880 So, it's the same person that you closed with. 11:02.940 --> 11:05.820 Now, you opened with MC Chris, you said, which is MCChris.com. 11:06.040 --> 11:06.340 Right. 11:06.540 --> 11:08.440 So, they can go check those out. 11:08.660 --> 11:12.220 And if anybody has any more they want to recommend to us, by all means, 11:12.880 --> 11:13.800 love to hear about them. 11:14.060 --> 11:16.460 I got another new one that I'm going to close out with tonight. 11:16.460 --> 11:20.300 I don't know if a lot of people have heard this, but I guess we'll find out. 11:21.320 --> 11:24.460 And that is it from the E-Mizzle. 11:24.600 --> 11:33.640 So, I guess let's jump into, see, I had a little incident. 11:33.980 --> 11:34.520 I don't know. 11:35.060 --> 11:38.860 I was at the mall, a mall, near where I work. 11:39.540 --> 11:43.000 And we stopped there after work one day, just kind of hanging out, relaxing. 11:44.420 --> 11:48.060 Now, I don't, tell me if this is a freak or not, Bland. 11:48.180 --> 11:49.240 You be the judge here. 11:50.080 --> 11:53.880 I went in to wash my hands, went in to wash my hands 11:53.880 --> 11:55.400 before getting something to eat in the food court. 11:55.700 --> 11:57.240 Nice, clean little hacker that I am. 11:58.180 --> 12:01.420 And there's a couple pay phones that you pass by going into the restroom. 12:01.660 --> 12:04.900 So, immediately I saw them. 12:04.980 --> 12:07.020 I'm like, hey, I'm going to take the number off of these, you know, 12:07.060 --> 12:08.220 and maybe I can have some fun with it. 12:09.360 --> 12:11.700 So, I go on in. 12:11.760 --> 12:12.380 I come back out. 12:12.400 --> 12:13.200 I was going to write the number down. 12:13.240 --> 12:16.260 When I come out, I noticed the pay phone was already ringing. 12:16.980 --> 12:18.480 And I'm like, wow, that's weird. 12:20.120 --> 12:21.300 So, I grabbed it. 12:21.560 --> 12:23.280 I just picked it up and hung it up real fast. 12:23.680 --> 12:24.440 I didn't answer it. 12:24.440 --> 12:25.880 I usually answer a pay phone when it's ringing. 12:25.960 --> 12:26.380 I love it. 12:26.480 --> 12:28.580 But I just picked it up and hung it up real fast. 12:28.640 --> 12:29.800 And when I walked around the corner, 12:31.000 --> 12:35.020 I noticed, I guess because I'm thinking that I would have done that myself 12:35.020 --> 12:35.940 locally to have fun, 12:35.980 --> 12:36.940 I was thinking someone else did. 12:36.960 --> 12:38.600 And I couldn't help but notice a group of kids. 12:38.920 --> 12:39.540 I say kids. 12:39.540 --> 12:41.360 I should say there was a group of probably, 12:42.240 --> 12:45.920 they were teenagers, probably, I don't know, 16, 17, 15, 12:46.080 --> 12:46.840 somewhere in that range, 12:47.420 --> 12:50.820 over at one of the tables trying to be inconspicuous. 12:51.740 --> 12:55.280 And if you've ever seen a 15-year-old trying to be inconspicuous in a mall, 12:55.360 --> 12:56.520 it doesn't exactly work. 12:56.840 --> 12:57.040 Yeah. 12:57.240 --> 13:01.040 So, they were over there doing pretty much the same thing I thought might be funny to do. 13:01.120 --> 13:02.660 So, I just kind of smiled and laughed. 13:04.960 --> 13:05.900 I don't know. 13:06.000 --> 13:07.220 Are they freaking? 13:07.220 --> 13:09.180 Would you say these guys were freaking at the mall? 13:10.540 --> 13:12.300 Uh, it depends. 13:13.400 --> 13:13.800 Yeah. 13:14.260 --> 13:15.120 That is freaking. 13:16.240 --> 13:18.680 You know, just having fun with phones, you know. 13:19.700 --> 13:23.620 And, um, but, I don't know. 13:23.700 --> 13:25.520 It depends on, I mean, what they were doing. 13:25.600 --> 13:28.820 Like, if they just wrote the number down at their celly, 13:29.480 --> 13:33.540 like, a couple feet away, or, you know, within, you know, 13:34.120 --> 13:35.820 within a visual range. 13:36.020 --> 13:36.400 Right. 13:36.400 --> 13:38.860 And it's just ringing it for everyone that walks by and thinking, 13:38.860 --> 13:40.060 Oh, you're a retarded. 13:40.300 --> 13:40.480 Yeah. 13:40.480 --> 13:41.040 And they hang up. 13:41.140 --> 13:42.400 That's the impression that I got. 13:42.480 --> 13:47.280 It was, they were just, you know, were they freaks that were having fun with the concept of it, 13:47.300 --> 13:49.840 or being clever, or were they just being annoying? 13:50.700 --> 13:52.740 They, you know, I don't know. 13:52.740 --> 13:58.200 I want to say that they were, you know, going to do some good, you know, ring the pay phone that you pick up, 13:58.300 --> 14:02.060 and that, you know, they do something like, uh, yes, I was wondering, you know, 14:02.060 --> 14:05.860 somehow try to social engineer you into dropping the quarter in there or something. 14:06.020 --> 14:06.380 Something. 14:06.380 --> 14:09.560 And then, you know, that, you know, that would have been kind of cool, 14:09.640 --> 14:13.660 but if they were just going to, you know, like, you know, seven days or something, 14:13.700 --> 14:17.040 you know, just let me be ignorant, then that's not freaking, that's just ignorant. 14:17.440 --> 14:17.580 Hmm. 14:17.580 --> 14:25.620 Well, I really, really wanted, I, damn it, I really wanted to go over there and walk past the table 14:25.620 --> 14:29.520 and see if I could, if I could shoulder surf their phone number. 14:30.080 --> 14:35.060 I thought it would be hilarious if I could call their cell, claiming to be from the phone company, 14:35.120 --> 14:36.600 do a little S.E. on them, you know? 14:37.020 --> 14:38.220 That would have been nice. 14:38.400 --> 14:41.740 Or if I, of course, I've said many times I am not a big freak. 14:42.020 --> 14:43.280 I am not a big phone freak. 14:43.280 --> 14:47.920 So, if there was some way I could have actually gotten on the, on the payphone itself 14:47.920 --> 14:52.500 and had it ring back or star 69 or something, you know, that would have been funny. 14:53.760 --> 14:53.960 Yeah. 14:54.580 --> 14:57.800 Or have it, yeah, I could have, could have social engineered and called and said, 14:57.880 --> 15:00.960 yes, we found that this cell phone has been calling through a payphone 15:00.960 --> 15:03.280 and your bill is accumulated to 70 dollars. 15:03.860 --> 15:05.240 Try to freak them out somehow. 15:05.680 --> 15:06.280 So that's been nice. 15:07.040 --> 15:08.680 But, no, I was nice and let it go. 15:08.680 --> 15:12.240 I figured, hey, maybe there are young freaks coming up 15:12.240 --> 15:14.340 and I didn't want to, you know, scar them or anything. 15:14.720 --> 15:18.520 Nah, you definitely don't want to discourage that because, man, freaks are a dying breed. 15:18.760 --> 15:25.800 Everyone wants to be Mr. Minus Day Hacks or, you know, no one wants to have fun with the payphones anymore, so. 15:26.340 --> 15:27.940 Well, the payphones are definitely a dying breed. 15:28.020 --> 15:31.060 But I don't, you know, honestly, I don't know about freaking being a dying breed. 15:31.120 --> 15:32.980 I think it's kind of in a renaissance right now. 15:32.980 --> 15:41.380 As an outsider looking in, I really see and hear a lot more, I think there's a lot more people crossing into it 15:41.380 --> 15:48.560 from the hacker world and from the geek world in general because of the whole voice over IP movement. 15:49.200 --> 15:52.540 I really think you're getting a lot of people who are suddenly becoming interested in it 15:52.540 --> 15:55.820 because of Vonage and Packet 8 and stuff like that. 15:55.820 --> 15:58.360 I think you're starting to get a lot more of a crossover audience 15:58.360 --> 16:03.860 and I think a lot of people are just finding it interesting now that it's become so, you know, 16:03.940 --> 16:09.260 we're so much in the digital age and so much new equipment that I think it's kind of having a little bit of a renaissance. 16:09.420 --> 16:14.940 I see more people interested in growing more and more every day than I really expected, than I really thought. 16:16.400 --> 16:19.640 Well, that would definitely be a good thing. I hope you're right. 16:19.640 --> 16:22.580 Well, we have, you know, we have default radio now. 16:22.700 --> 16:26.580 We have another freaking radio show out with Decoder and Lucky 225. 16:26.960 --> 16:28.020 Great show, by the way. 16:28.140 --> 16:33.580 Yeah, very good. And, you know, it's, I don't know, it's going to be interesting to watch for the next few months. 16:33.700 --> 16:38.060 I really do have this feeling that it's kind of in a renaissance period. 16:38.720 --> 16:39.500 Maybe it's just me. 16:41.520 --> 16:43.460 Anyway, that was my week. 16:44.460 --> 16:48.080 And talking to you about, well, MC Frontalot. 16:48.080 --> 16:52.160 And frankly, that the, I had heard of MC Frontalot. 16:52.240 --> 16:55.520 I had downloaded his stuff before and listened to it and I liked it. 16:56.060 --> 17:00.720 But I never knew that there was actually a name for the genre of music. 17:00.860 --> 17:02.860 I just, you know, it was just some old school hip hop. 17:03.260 --> 17:07.700 Lyrics were kind of cool, had some obscure references in there that not a lot of computer, 17:07.920 --> 17:10.260 that not a lot of non-computer geeks would get. 17:11.360 --> 17:13.360 So I just thought it was interesting. I liked it. 17:13.360 --> 17:17.540 But I never really thought that there was this whole genre going on. 17:18.080 --> 17:22.500 And you guys mentioned it to me. You guys mentioned it on the show last week. 17:22.560 --> 17:27.960 And I mentioned it to you that I had recognized it, but I didn't understand the term nerdcore. 17:28.300 --> 17:33.980 So why don't you, well, I mean, yeah, you go ahead and take a, why don't you explain nerdcore? 17:33.980 --> 17:40.040 And, yeah, wait, are you still wearing your, uh, your Tupac, uh, bandana? 17:40.500 --> 17:40.960 I am. 17:41.020 --> 17:41.960 You're still tied down? 17:42.340 --> 17:46.200 Yeah, I found a little bandana in a sock drawer or something. 17:46.840 --> 17:50.140 And so I put it on, tied it, you know, with a small knot like Tupac. 17:50.820 --> 17:54.380 And so I'm laying here on the couch representing, compiling QT libraries. 17:54.380 --> 18:03.600 So you're buck naked with a Tupac bandana and a, uh, uh, Anthony Kiedis sock over your groin. 18:03.660 --> 18:06.860 Is that pretty much the, is that the picture we want everyone to draw on their head? 18:07.080 --> 18:12.860 Yeah, except for, uh, I will be honest to the loyal listeners, uh, it's more like, uh, like one of those ankle socks. 18:12.860 --> 18:13.060 Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, 18:42.860 --> 18:44.900 Well, Fiend actually turned me on to it. 18:45.300 --> 18:49.440 I'd heard some, you know, like you had, I'd kind of heard some songs, 18:50.120 --> 18:53.080 and I was like, wait a minute, this guy's rapping about his stuck caps lock key. 18:53.180 --> 18:54.000 This is pretty cool. 18:54.320 --> 18:54.680 Right. 18:54.980 --> 18:59.120 And Fiend was like, well, you know, it's actually called Nerd Chord. 18:59.220 --> 19:06.140 It's basically a bunch of people who sit at their house with their free recording equipment 19:06.140 --> 19:10.520 and just really trying to be low-tech. 19:10.520 --> 19:16.480 And so being low-tech kind of gives it a real old-school flavor, which I really like. 19:17.780 --> 19:20.380 But some of it, you know, and that varies. 19:20.540 --> 19:24.300 I mean, a lot of it's, you know, fast-paced and really modern and everything else, 19:24.400 --> 19:25.800 but it really well put together. 19:26.540 --> 19:29.280 But, you know, just for me, you know, kind of like the old-school, 19:29.680 --> 19:32.980 kind of DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince, like second album, 19:33.320 --> 19:35.120 like Nightmare on My Street kind of deal. 19:35.120 --> 19:41.460 So anyway, he gave me a couple tunes, gave me a couple links, 19:41.900 --> 19:43.740 and went and checked it out, and I really dig it. 19:43.820 --> 19:50.680 I mean, it's basically rap, like old-school rap, not like, well, you know, new-school, I guess. 19:51.800 --> 19:53.120 Well, it's mostly old-school. 19:53.600 --> 19:57.580 Yeah, there's some stuff that kind of relates to, like, Nelly or something like that, 19:57.580 --> 20:00.420 but most of the time it's just straight rap. 20:00.540 --> 20:01.640 There's no, like, hip-hop. 20:01.740 --> 20:05.740 No one does any sort of, like, you know, sprexedema or none of that. 20:05.980 --> 20:09.960 I mean, like a lot of the new rappers do, kind of try to make it sort of R&B as well. 20:10.560 --> 20:12.060 This is just, like, straight rapping. 20:12.940 --> 20:20.480 And they rap about, you know, clock cycles and cash-lock keys and spam and just everything, you know? 20:20.920 --> 20:26.060 Yeah, that's my favorite line for many of them is the stealing clock cycles while I try to parse. 20:26.060 --> 20:28.420 Yeah, that's a good line. 20:28.880 --> 20:35.580 I swipe clock cycles from sucker MCs and they struggle to parse. 20:36.000 --> 20:38.560 Yeah, see, that's just, that's beautiful, man. 20:39.300 --> 20:42.780 Yeah, it's just because it's all these terms that you think about, you know? 20:42.860 --> 20:46.500 It's like compiling your libraries, you know, and it's just, it's cool. 20:46.780 --> 20:51.460 I mean, because they rap about this stuff, it's just, it's really geek rap, and it's awesome. 20:51.460 --> 20:56.720 I think the term nerdcore is really cool because that's what it is. 20:56.840 --> 21:07.220 I mean, it's like, like, if Limp Bizkit is rapcore, if, you know, if Anthrax with Public Enemy, if that's, you know, rapcore, then this is nerdcore. 21:07.220 --> 21:13.120 I mean, it's just, it's basically, you know, instead of coming from the, what did Kid Rock say? 21:13.260 --> 21:15.300 I ain't straight out of the concert, I'm straight out the trailer. 21:16.660 --> 21:18.140 Yeah, that's kind of how it is, you know? 21:18.180 --> 21:20.080 It's just, it's straight off IRC. 21:20.080 --> 21:29.340 Yeah, and I, see, here's the thing is, that's what I, first of all, it's lyrical content that defines it. 21:29.700 --> 21:29.920 Yeah. 21:30.040 --> 21:35.780 I mean, the fact that it's old school, that's just because it's simple and it lets you emphasize. 21:36.020 --> 21:43.160 If you remember the real, real old school where it was just a beat and somebody rapping and that was it, you know? 21:43.200 --> 21:47.760 Somebody dropped a beatbox, somebody would throw some lyrics, it was on a street corner, 21:47.760 --> 21:55.060 it was, like, just very raw, very, you know, simple, and that's nerdcore in general. 21:55.720 --> 22:04.400 At least the way I view it is along the same lines, except the lyrical content is about computing and hacking and, you know, stuff like that. 22:05.060 --> 22:05.760 Yeah, definitely. 22:06.160 --> 22:13.780 However, while I was out digging up trying to find some new stuff, and I found, like I said, a great new one to close out the show today that I like a lot. 22:13.780 --> 22:26.640 I found, surprisingly, some bands and some music labeling themselves as nerdcore, and that's how I found them, was through searching for nerdcore, through linking from other nerdcore sites. 22:27.020 --> 22:31.120 And I found a lot of punk stuff that were labeling themselves as nerdcore. 22:31.200 --> 22:33.040 There was a lot of heavy, hard rock there. 22:33.080 --> 22:39.960 I even found some industrial nerdcore, which I didn't know any of that, you know? 22:39.960 --> 22:41.440 I don't know if that really is the same. 22:42.240 --> 22:42.640 I don't know. 22:42.800 --> 22:51.540 See, I'm thinking that, you know, I've got some really cool beats that someone gave me, and I'm going to break that, I'm going to drop that, hopefully, later this week. 22:51.720 --> 22:54.460 Oh, man, you're not giving them a teaser of the project there, are you? 22:54.740 --> 22:57.020 Oh, well, just, yeah, yeah, I am, actually. 22:57.820 --> 23:01.320 Well, this is, wait a minute, that's a different project than the teaser we gave last week. 23:01.320 --> 23:09.540 Yes, yes, this is just some fat beats that someone gave me, and I'm going to rap about smoking weed with Haitians. 23:11.520 --> 23:12.840 Yeah, that's nerdcore. 23:13.460 --> 23:16.400 But, I mean, but, you know, you throw some references in there. 23:16.480 --> 23:21.760 I mean, it's just, it's all about, just, I think it's just the place that you're coming from, you know what I mean? 23:21.940 --> 23:22.340 Mm-hmm. 23:22.520 --> 23:25.900 Because, I don't know, it's hard to define. 23:26.000 --> 23:28.740 Just go and listen to all of it that you can possibly find. 23:28.740 --> 23:36.580 But, like, this one song that Fiend gave me, it was called Mumbo Jumbo, by a guy that calls himself the deaf author. 23:37.740 --> 23:43.200 And, you know, the chorus is like, I think we could all use a little dough. 23:43.820 --> 23:45.740 Homer Simpson would probably say dough. 23:46.340 --> 23:48.200 An extinct bird is a dough dough. 23:48.560 --> 23:50.580 I eat the cookies, but first I eat the dough. 23:51.260 --> 23:52.660 That's just funny, you know? 23:53.020 --> 23:53.940 It's nerdcore. 23:53.940 --> 24:00.580 Yeah, you know, it's, yeah, it's really hard to put your finger on it exactly, but you know it when you hear it. 24:00.820 --> 24:01.040 Yeah. 24:01.160 --> 24:02.700 You know, you really feel it, so. 24:03.000 --> 24:03.900 It's like pornography. 24:05.100 --> 24:09.620 You don't know if it's pornography or art, but you can tell when you look at it. 24:10.020 --> 24:17.060 Yeah, but if, if you can, well, if you can make your tube sock sticky, then it's probably not art. 24:17.220 --> 24:18.300 I'll just say that. 24:18.880 --> 24:19.600 I don't know. 24:19.680 --> 24:21.260 There's some pretty sticky art out there. 24:21.980 --> 24:26.020 Well, and me, you know, I mean, yeah, we've all got good imaginations around here. 24:26.080 --> 24:26.520 We're hackers. 24:26.660 --> 24:27.240 That's what we do. 24:27.500 --> 24:29.920 We, you know, it's our imagination that carries us through. 24:29.920 --> 24:32.780 Well, all right, how about, how about the Paris Hilton video? 24:32.960 --> 24:34.880 Is that porn or art? 24:36.320 --> 24:38.620 To me, that was porn that was so good that it's art. 24:38.620 --> 24:50.180 Um, well, you know, one person who needs a lesson on how to differentiate between porn 24:50.180 --> 24:55.700 and art, um, somebody might want to take that up with Michael Jackson, because he's in deep 24:55.700 --> 24:56.060 again. 24:56.500 --> 24:57.960 Uh, he's, that's a stick. 24:58.060 --> 25:00.140 Yeah, we don't, you know what, we don't even want to go here. 25:00.200 --> 25:00.800 It's a hacking show. 25:00.860 --> 25:01.560 Let's bring it back. 25:01.600 --> 25:02.560 Let's bring it back to hacking. 25:02.820 --> 25:03.520 All right, all right, all right. 25:03.520 --> 25:04.440 Even though he's a sick. 25:04.440 --> 25:08.160 All right, let me put the purple dot on my knot here, like 2-5. 25:08.460 --> 25:09.460 All right, all right, we're good. 25:09.580 --> 25:10.300 All right, back to hacking. 25:10.420 --> 25:10.860 Are we cool? 25:11.040 --> 25:11.320 All right. 25:11.420 --> 25:11.640 Yes. 25:11.880 --> 25:16.080 Now, um, all right, so I guess, yeah, we gave a teaser of another project. 25:16.260 --> 25:19.640 We are really over-committing ourselves on projects, aren't we? 25:20.120 --> 25:21.440 Oh, yeah, that, well, you know. 25:21.600 --> 25:24.240 This holiday weekend, we're going to do two projects. 25:24.540 --> 25:26.660 We're going to start two projects this holiday weekend. 25:27.240 --> 25:32.140 Yep, and we're going to, hopefully we're going to, no, we've never, we've never dropped 25:32.140 --> 25:32.720 a project. 25:33.180 --> 25:33.600 What's that? 25:33.600 --> 25:35.300 We've never dropped a project. 25:35.440 --> 25:35.860 That's cool. 25:35.920 --> 25:39.000 Anything that we've said we're going to do, we've always done it. 25:39.620 --> 25:45.020 Eventually, I still have that one cloud hanging over my head that I haven't released Hack 25:45.020 --> 25:50.220 TV yet, but it's because I want it to be done right, and I want it done a certain way, 25:50.300 --> 25:54.540 and it just hasn't come out well enough or good enough for me to want to release it 25:54.540 --> 25:59.060 yet, so I'm putting that stuff together, but other than that, and actually, we've got 25:59.060 --> 26:02.100 a teaser, you know, we put something out for that project. 26:02.840 --> 26:03.240 Yeah. 26:03.240 --> 26:08.060 And when the final one comes, I think people will be happy with it, but yes, in general, 26:08.380 --> 26:11.020 when we announce a project, it's because it's ready to go. 26:13.700 --> 26:16.680 Well, maybe not ready to go, but ready to begin. 26:16.680 --> 26:23.140 Well, we know, we have a date, we know when we're going to start, and we know we're going 26:23.140 --> 26:29.160 to finish it by that weekend, so I don't think there's any harm in announcing that this upcoming 26:29.160 --> 26:30.180 holiday weekend. 26:30.860 --> 26:35.740 Oh, I didn't even mention at the beginning of the show that this is Tuesday, what is it, 26:35.740 --> 26:40.940 November 25th episode, episode 21, I don't think I even mentioned any of that at the beginning. 26:40.940 --> 26:43.680 You were busy being all eyes. 26:43.680 --> 26:47.280 Oh, yeah, I was all G'd. Oh, wait a minute, I've got to be G'd out again, I messed up. 26:47.660 --> 26:55.400 Yo, yo, yeah, I've been dropping this on the 2-5, baby. November 25th, 2-double-off. 26:55.800 --> 26:56.700 3, are we in? 26:57.340 --> 26:59.780 Yeah, yeah, we're almost to 2K, folks. 26:59.780 --> 27:04.780 Oh, man, I've got to stay G'd out for this episode, don't I? 27:05.580 --> 27:06.880 Nah, it's too much effort, man. 27:06.960 --> 27:07.100 Yeah. 27:07.760 --> 27:13.580 It's like, you know, sometimes, and this is really scary, sometimes I'll like think and 27:13.580 --> 27:14.240 lead speak. 27:14.760 --> 27:15.080 Yeah. 27:15.340 --> 27:21.820 Like I'll see like someone's license plate, and it's like, you know, like 4-7-0, and I'm 27:21.820 --> 27:22.780 like, what's that mean? 27:22.880 --> 27:23.980 Is that A-T-O? 27:24.120 --> 27:24.300 What? 27:24.380 --> 27:26.060 Yeah, I know, I feel you. 27:26.180 --> 27:27.340 It's like, it's just numbers. 27:27.700 --> 27:27.960 Yeah. 27:27.960 --> 27:30.680 Are you ever, have you ever bust out an LOL? 27:31.880 --> 27:33.140 No, I've never done that. 27:33.360 --> 27:35.820 Speaking to somebody, ah, LOL, LOL. 27:37.740 --> 27:38.580 Oh, man. 27:39.380 --> 27:40.840 Yep, we are Uber. 27:41.520 --> 27:41.980 Oh, yeah. 27:42.220 --> 27:42.960 We are Uber. 27:44.360 --> 27:47.340 All right, anyway, so that we're going to be dropping. 27:50.180 --> 27:52.780 You sure you want to be associated with that project, though, by the way? 27:53.340 --> 27:53.820 Which one? 27:53.820 --> 27:55.360 You want to put that under a different name? 27:56.080 --> 27:57.100 The most recent one? 27:57.100 --> 28:00.100 Uh, the one that we just talked about tonight. 28:00.220 --> 28:00.520 Yeah. 28:01.060 --> 28:02.160 Um, yeah, definitely. 28:02.300 --> 28:03.720 Well, it's, I mean. 28:04.320 --> 28:06.260 Should we change names to protect the innocent? 28:06.780 --> 28:07.580 Screw the innocent. 28:07.780 --> 28:08.940 Or protect the guilty? 28:09.360 --> 28:15.340 Yeah, well, uh, someone mentioned, I can't remember who it was, that when me and you do 28:15.340 --> 28:23.400 the show, we should change it from, uh, Binary Revolution Radio to, uh, Binary Redneck Radio. 28:24.760 --> 28:29.260 Because, you know, because when you listen to it, it's basically like me and you with 28:29.260 --> 28:32.860 our shirts off, sitting on the front porch, drinking beer, watching the Bug Zapper, you 28:32.860 --> 28:33.040 know? 28:33.220 --> 28:33.880 You know what? 28:33.920 --> 28:35.340 That's the most ugly visual. 28:35.440 --> 28:37.380 Nobody wants to see us with our shirts off. 28:38.080 --> 28:38.360 Oh. 28:38.360 --> 28:40.300 Dude, I don't want to see myself with a shirt. 28:40.300 --> 28:42.120 I don't even want to, it's like standing in front of the mirror. 28:42.560 --> 28:46.540 Yeah, I mean, when I walk, I hear corduroy, even when I'm not wearing pants. 28:46.540 --> 28:49.540 Oh, man. 28:50.480 --> 28:51.940 Yeah, that one's going to be good. 28:52.620 --> 28:53.620 But, uh, you know what? 28:53.680 --> 28:54.320 Okay, here we go. 28:54.380 --> 28:54.900 Let's do this. 28:55.000 --> 28:56.320 Right here, live on the air. 28:56.800 --> 28:57.800 Well, pseudo live. 28:58.280 --> 29:03.760 Right on, on episode 21, we're going to commit that both of, can we do both of these projects? 29:03.880 --> 29:05.740 Or we can at least do the first project. 29:06.140 --> 29:06.460 Yeah. 29:06.560 --> 29:10.440 And have it out before the next episode 22 of Binary Radio. 29:10.920 --> 29:12.120 We can do the first project. 29:12.120 --> 29:17.760 Now, the second one, um, I think we can do that, too, but you tell me, because that's, 29:17.960 --> 29:24.040 see, the first one was more of kind of my idea and my, I don't know, I came up with that one 29:24.040 --> 29:27.200 and you came up with the second one, even though we're both working together on it. 29:27.380 --> 29:27.700 Right. 29:27.760 --> 29:30.960 So you tell me how, how much is it going to be in the second project? 29:31.260 --> 29:37.220 Well, if I can find all I need, and listeners, please help me out, bland at binrev.com. 29:37.220 --> 29:43.060 So, I need a multi-track audio recording software for Linux. 29:44.120 --> 29:45.880 Audacity will only do one track. 29:46.260 --> 29:52.480 You can't, you can't do full duplex recording, which means that you can't have, like, like 29:52.480 --> 29:56.980 a beat playing on one track and record on the second track while you're listening to 29:56.980 --> 29:57.620 the first track. 29:57.980 --> 29:59.460 It won't do full duplex. 29:59.460 --> 30:05.660 So, I'm trying to find a full duplexing sound recording program for Linux. 30:06.760 --> 30:13.300 And I've, I've found Muse, but, like, nine one, you know, it doesn't come with all the 30:13.300 --> 30:15.360 QT libraries, so I'm trying to compile that. 30:15.900 --> 30:18.560 I've been compiling that since, like, five minutes before the show started. 30:18.680 --> 30:19.360 It's massive. 30:20.120 --> 30:23.760 Yeah, and I think we've, I think people have got an idea what the project is by now, too, 30:23.880 --> 30:24.080 but. 30:24.080 --> 30:29.740 Yeah, well, you know, but I, I just need to, I don't know, if you can, if anyone can 30:29.740 --> 30:31.220 help me out, definitely let me know. 30:32.500 --> 30:38.680 All right, well, that being said, and let's jump off the, uh, Nerdcore topic, and let's 30:38.680 --> 30:40.480 jump into some actual show topics. 30:40.560 --> 30:41.040 Is that cool? 30:41.800 --> 30:42.720 I don't know if we gotta. 30:43.260 --> 30:44.460 Yeah, we gotta. 30:44.540 --> 30:45.240 I guess we should. 30:46.020 --> 30:50.180 Nobody, you know, people, they don't want to hear about me and you and what we're doing 30:50.180 --> 30:52.040 and, you know, our silly projects. 30:52.040 --> 30:55.120 They just want, just give them the project when it's done. 30:55.640 --> 30:56.780 Quit talking about it. 30:56.820 --> 30:58.360 Let's just get it out there and give it to them. 30:59.400 --> 31:00.780 Yeah, we are kind of cock teasers. 31:00.940 --> 31:01.220 Yeah. 31:01.220 --> 31:01.520 I mean. 31:01.620 --> 31:01.980 Yeah. 31:02.320 --> 31:03.080 I edit that. 31:03.220 --> 31:05.560 We are kind of, uh, kind of acting. 31:05.560 --> 31:08.340 We can say, hey, that is a, that's a, uh, chicken. 31:08.520 --> 31:10.740 That's a, uh, you know, we can say cock. 31:11.240 --> 31:11.920 Okay, good. 31:11.960 --> 31:12.360 Yeah, okay. 31:12.440 --> 31:13.500 That's like a male chicken. 31:13.580 --> 31:13.900 Yeah. 31:14.100 --> 31:15.180 You know, cock-a-doodle-doo. 31:15.840 --> 31:16.900 We can get away with that. 31:17.120 --> 31:17.820 Just don't choke. 31:18.100 --> 31:18.600 Well, there. 31:18.660 --> 31:19.280 Okay, well. 31:20.580 --> 31:21.540 Here's the line and. 31:21.540 --> 31:23.520 Only if, only if it's a bad chicken. 31:23.980 --> 31:27.840 Yeah, only if you tend to eat the chicken must you choke it. 31:28.260 --> 31:28.660 What? 31:30.100 --> 31:30.540 No. 31:30.720 --> 31:32.120 Dude, I am, no, dude. 31:33.360 --> 31:35.320 No, that did not work at all. 31:35.640 --> 31:35.840 Yeah. 31:36.140 --> 31:37.160 Um, uh. 31:37.340 --> 31:40.280 Dude, you can, you can eat your own chicken, but. 31:41.400 --> 31:41.840 No. 31:42.420 --> 31:43.380 Okay, I'm going to get a drink. 31:43.460 --> 31:44.100 I'm going to start over. 31:44.960 --> 31:47.060 Dude, you talk about hacking and I'll just. 31:47.100 --> 31:48.940 All right, you need to loosen up the bandana. 31:49.640 --> 31:51.280 Yeah, I've just taken it off. 31:51.540 --> 31:54.120 Yeah, I think you cut off the blood supply to your head with that one. 31:55.680 --> 31:56.380 Oh, man. 31:56.420 --> 31:57.040 All right, let's jump. 31:57.260 --> 32:02.280 You know, we talked last week, and actually you guys brought it up on RFA about blue jacking. 32:02.900 --> 32:03.160 Yeah. 32:03.160 --> 32:04.660 And I thought that was really cool. 32:05.660 --> 32:06.400 Um, neat little thing. 32:06.440 --> 32:08.360 It's not, you know, it's not all that amazing. 32:08.540 --> 32:13.760 It's nothing fantastic, but it is kind of a fun little, little hack, I guess you'd call it. 32:13.840 --> 32:15.600 A fun little trick, a little party game. 32:15.600 --> 32:20.320 Um, but it's not a big security issue. 32:20.320 --> 32:22.900 It's not a big elite hacking thing. 32:23.860 --> 32:38.880 Um, but for some reason lately, I've been reading a lot of people knocking Bluetooth security and using that as one of the, one of the vulnerabilities or one of the problems with Bluetooth security, such as it is. 32:38.880 --> 32:49.580 Um, but the term that I read about more while researching this was that there's something called snarfing, blue snarfing to be exact, or just snarfing in general. 32:49.580 --> 33:08.740 But, it sounds like a more severe or a more dangerous vulnerability in Bluetooth to me, but even it is very unusual or very particular in its application, the way I understand it anyway. 33:09.340 --> 33:17.700 Snarfing is, if you have a Bluetooth enabled phone, now granted, I don't have one unfortunately to try some of this and verify a lot of it personally. 33:17.700 --> 33:27.500 But, Bluetooth allows you to pair up with another Bluetooth enabled phone so that you can exchange information with people. 33:27.660 --> 33:34.600 You can give people contacts out of your address book or pass a business card or what, you know, pass information from one phone to the other. 33:35.540 --> 33:47.680 Now, to do this, to pair up with someone, the other person using the phone, the way, I'm pretty sure that you have to actually give that other person a password. 33:47.700 --> 33:52.180 Or permission to access your phone. It's not something that you can just do. 33:52.640 --> 33:53.040 Right. 33:53.180 --> 33:58.380 You know, you have to give them a password. And, you know, before, do you have a Bluetooth phone? Have you ever heard of this? 33:58.580 --> 34:04.000 No, but Duel and I, when he came down, we played with a lot of Bluetooth. 34:05.840 --> 34:11.480 And, you know, I'm going to take a sidestep here because it's what I do best. 34:12.480 --> 34:16.220 But, uh, Duel doesn't, you know, Duel doesn't pimp himself. 34:17.300 --> 34:23.360 And so, I just want to give a fucking massive shout, or I just want to give massive shout to Duel and to let everyone know, 34:23.520 --> 34:26.660 he wrote a script that would do some of this. 34:27.440 --> 34:29.740 And it's actually on wardriving.com. 34:30.100 --> 34:33.260 I mean, the dude actually put it up under Bluetooth. 34:33.660 --> 34:36.700 Yeah, that's the script that he posted. Is that the same one he posted in the forums, right? 34:36.940 --> 34:37.200 Yeah. 34:37.300 --> 34:39.400 And in the T-files of Old School Freak. 34:39.880 --> 34:40.240 Right. 34:40.360 --> 34:40.580 Yep. 34:40.980 --> 34:47.260 I mean, he submitted to wardriving.com, like, the premier source of wardriving paraphernalia. 34:48.060 --> 34:48.480 Mm-hmm. 34:48.720 --> 34:51.980 That dude put it up. So, I mean, that's pretty massive. 34:52.640 --> 34:54.440 Yeah, that's very, very cool. 34:54.620 --> 34:59.800 I thought it was very cool when I saw the code, too, but, and I just wish I had something that I could test it on. 35:00.280 --> 35:05.180 Yeah, now, the authentication, from what I understand, now, I may be just completely way off, 35:05.180 --> 35:14.420 but from what I understand, the authentication for Bluetooth is that all devices hop channels. 35:15.320 --> 35:16.820 And they hop channels randomly. 35:17.220 --> 35:17.540 Right. 35:17.540 --> 35:25.100 And you can only link up to another Bluetooth device, naturally, if you're both hopping at the same time. 35:25.580 --> 35:26.160 You see what I mean? 35:26.640 --> 35:30.360 Because if, you know, if I'm on channel 4, going to channel 3. 35:30.680 --> 35:31.040 Mm-hmm. 35:31.440 --> 35:36.300 Channel, you know, 6, going to channel 5, we can't link up because we've got to be on the same channel, 35:36.520 --> 35:38.920 just like, you know, FMRS or whatever. 35:39.980 --> 35:40.420 Okay. 35:40.420 --> 35:46.520 So, what happens when you link up, you know, you try to establish a connection. 35:46.720 --> 35:48.060 You bring the handshake. 35:48.540 --> 35:48.880 Right. 35:48.880 --> 35:56.820 And then, the person, you know, the little thing goes up and says, hey, you know, Bob is trying to, 35:57.400 --> 35:59.000 Bob wants to establish a connection. 35:59.180 --> 35:59.860 Will you allow it? 36:00.520 --> 36:10.120 And if you allow it, then you will sync with their device, and you will both hop simultaneously to the same channel. 36:10.620 --> 36:12.800 And that way, you have a connection there. 36:13.800 --> 36:14.280 Okay. 36:14.420 --> 36:18.160 With, only with that person who has accepted your invitation. 36:18.440 --> 36:18.780 Right. 36:18.880 --> 36:19.200 Right. 36:20.920 --> 36:27.980 And no one from outside can interfere with that unless they, too, request an invitation or accept an invitation. 36:28.340 --> 36:28.720 Right. 36:30.940 --> 36:36.020 So, once you have connected with the other person and established a relationship, 36:36.900 --> 36:41.640 then do you have access only to what that person gives you access to, 36:41.740 --> 36:44.880 or do you have full access to anything on that phone? 36:45.680 --> 36:49.960 I don't know, but I would assume that there's, like, a shared docs. 36:51.060 --> 36:51.420 Right. 36:51.560 --> 36:52.060 Type setup. 36:52.380 --> 36:52.600 Yeah. 36:52.680 --> 36:53.260 That you can... 36:53.260 --> 36:57.580 Possibly, by default, it automatically shares out all contacts or something like that? 36:57.860 --> 36:59.640 That would not surprise me. 36:59.680 --> 37:00.640 Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me. 37:00.640 --> 37:03.840 If anybody, again, if anybody knows, send us letters at binrev.com. 37:04.120 --> 37:07.680 But I'm pretty sure the way I understand it is that it's a... 37:07.680 --> 37:14.100 It may be like that, but for the most part, the default settings are that it gives you a lot of access on that other person's system. 37:14.360 --> 37:16.220 And phone or not, it's a system. 37:16.560 --> 37:16.960 Right. 37:16.960 --> 37:21.060 But this is the... 37:21.060 --> 37:29.160 The term snarfing refers to, I guess, getting that access without the other person's knowledge. 37:29.740 --> 37:36.380 But I don't quite see how that's possible because, like you said, it has to grant them access or authority. 37:36.380 --> 37:46.400 Now, the only other thing is that if somehow you get that access from somebody at any given point in time, that it will remember that in the future. 37:47.180 --> 37:48.100 So that you kind of have... 37:48.100 --> 37:50.260 Basically, it's like putting a back door on a computer. 37:50.620 --> 37:59.020 Once you've been in and once you've compromised it or once you've got connection one time, if you ever come back to that system, your back door is there waiting for you. 37:59.020 --> 38:01.220 So let's use you and I for an example. 38:01.700 --> 38:11.360 If your Bluetooth phone and mine, we gave each other permission, synced up, and we swapped all of Duel's 1-900 numbers with each other, which would take a long time. 38:11.440 --> 38:12.680 But let's say we swapped those numbers. 38:13.540 --> 38:18.920 Now, two months down the road, I could sneak up behind you at a bus station somewhere. 38:19.800 --> 38:26.280 And since we have already established a trust relationship, I would then have access to your phone again. 38:26.280 --> 38:41.480 So without your knowledge, I could sync up with your phone and download the rest of whatever you had on that phone without you watching, without you knowing that I had done it because the trust was already established and somehow kept or maintained. 38:42.260 --> 38:50.920 Now, that is a vulnerability that I have read about, but again, I haven't been able to verify firsthand, but I've heard many people say that that is a possibility. 38:50.920 --> 39:11.140 Yeah. Now, I don't know if, surely there's an option to where you can turn off, like, I mean, you can just give all sorts of permissions expiration dates for, you know, expiration times, like only except for this session, surely, because that's like, that's dumb. 39:11.140 --> 39:21.160 Well, yeah, it sounds like it. And again, that's, you know, that's just a backdoor. That's nothing really new concept-wise to the world of hacking. 39:21.540 --> 39:36.260 But the term snarfing that I hear people say, I still haven't had anybody show me or prove to me that you can do a hostile takeover and gain access to someone else's phone without their knowledge other than what I just described. 39:36.260 --> 40:03.880 Now, if, however, if the only means of authentication, if the only thing that you accepting a connection does is synchronize your hopping, which may, in fact, be all that it is, it just allows you to sync up with them, and then you can trade files back and forth because, you know, your hopping is basically an established connection. 40:03.880 --> 40:11.380 Right. If you could somehow, if I could sit at a bus station while you're sleeping on one of the benches. 40:11.520 --> 40:14.800 Right. Well, hey, you know, I've got to get up and go to work the next day. Why bother traveling? 40:15.180 --> 40:17.220 Yeah, exactly. And there's a bathroom as well. 40:17.220 --> 40:32.420 Anyway, if I could sit there with my laptop and a USB Bluetooth plug, and if I could monitor your device and figure out a sequence, 40:32.420 --> 40:48.020 if you jumped 1, 4, 3, 6, 2, 5, 1, 4, 3, 6, 2, 5, if that was you, if I could monitor that and then establish, you know, 40:48.060 --> 40:56.280 if I could somehow set my device to do that, to hop simultaneously, to alter mine to match yours, 40:56.280 --> 41:04.420 then you could do that, because if the only authentication is requesting the synchronization, 41:05.280 --> 41:07.560 then you could go in there and you just own that thing. 41:08.680 --> 41:11.540 Yeah, but there's got to be more than synchronizing. 41:11.660 --> 41:15.740 The synchronizing is just like establishing the connection, it sounds like. 41:16.220 --> 41:21.880 You still wouldn't be authenticated without, well, the authentication protocol, 41:21.880 --> 41:27.480 which in this case seems to just be, do you want to allow so-and-so to download your 900 numbers, 41:27.520 --> 41:29.200 or whatever it is, and yes or no. 41:29.260 --> 41:34.320 Even if it's a simple yes or no by the client or by the server, however you want to look at it, 41:35.080 --> 41:39.940 there still has to be some kind of handshake to maintain that authentication. 41:41.640 --> 41:45.260 I mean, you'd be able to, you, it's, I guess it'd be kind of like, you can see them, 41:45.520 --> 41:48.940 and you can follow them from channel to channel, but you couldn't really access them. 41:50.280 --> 41:51.140 Yeah, that's true. 41:51.140 --> 42:01.860 You know, because just like with Wi-Fi, you can see and hear and see the traffic and sniff a WEP-encrypted connection. 42:03.100 --> 42:04.180 You can see it. 42:04.320 --> 42:06.900 You can follow the channels if they want to change channels even. 42:07.560 --> 42:13.240 But without breaking that WEP encryption, without getting some type of authentication on that network, 42:13.620 --> 42:16.320 that's really all you can do is look at it from the outside. 42:16.320 --> 42:23.440 You can't get on and authenticate on that network unless there is no password or there is no encryption. 42:23.640 --> 42:26.700 You've got to get onto that network and be assigned an IP address, 42:26.760 --> 42:31.100 and you can't really do that unless you, you know, are authenticated. 42:31.100 --> 42:33.520 That's true. 42:33.960 --> 42:35.040 Man, I don't know. 42:35.260 --> 42:41.040 The only thing that I know for sure about Bluetooth is that I need to do a lot more reading. 42:41.040 --> 42:48.300 Yeah, and that's really the point of why we discussed this is because I did do some research on this the past week or so, 42:49.000 --> 42:55.400 and I really, I'm going to get a Bluetooth phone, but I just can't right now, unfortunately. 42:55.500 --> 42:58.580 And once I do, I'll be able to do a lot more research, of course, obviously. 42:59.360 --> 43:03.960 But until then, I just, I'm really seeing and hearing more about it. 43:04.000 --> 43:05.000 I don't know what it is. 43:05.080 --> 43:06.040 Well, I guess I know what it is. 43:06.060 --> 43:10.200 It's probably the simple, the simple fact that so many cell phones, 43:10.200 --> 43:16.800 the cell phone manufacturers have adopted Bluetooth, and it's becoming so popular that, you know, 43:16.940 --> 43:19.260 that's why I'm seeing and hearing more of it. 43:19.420 --> 43:24.340 I go out and I look and I hear a lot of people talking about hacking Bluetooth, 43:24.960 --> 43:27.440 and a very vague term, hacking Bluetooth, whatever that means. 43:27.440 --> 43:31.720 But I've seen and heard a lot of people that are experimenting and playing with Bluetooth, 43:31.960 --> 43:34.920 and blue jacking, and blue snarfing, and, you know, all this stuff. 43:35.620 --> 43:43.380 And it's got to be because there's so many Bluetooth-enabled cell phones that you have that many more targets, you know. 43:43.560 --> 43:47.780 Even though, still, it's not like there's a whole lot you can get off of a cell phone. 43:47.900 --> 43:52.220 I mean, it could potentially be some corporate espionage stuff going on. 43:52.220 --> 43:58.380 If you can hack some corporate CEO, executive, vice president of whatever competing company, 43:58.440 --> 44:01.220 you might be able to get some kind of information off their phone or something. 44:01.220 --> 44:05.740 But it doesn't really sound like it's something that's all that dangerous, is it? 44:06.080 --> 44:11.360 I mean, well, the thing that really minimizes the danger of it is proximity. 44:12.600 --> 44:12.840 True. 44:12.840 --> 44:14.700 The Bluetooth is made for PAN. 44:14.940 --> 44:16.660 It's made for personal area network. 44:16.940 --> 44:17.340 Exactly. 44:17.820 --> 44:21.320 So if I was, you know, like if we were at the bus station, 44:22.040 --> 44:25.500 and you were, you know, laying some cable in one of the stalls, 44:25.960 --> 44:28.840 and I saddled up in the stall next to you, you know. 44:29.420 --> 44:31.300 Dude, you're breaking the rule of etiquette. 44:31.380 --> 44:34.000 You never go into an adjacent open stall. 44:34.120 --> 44:36.640 You have to go to the third stall in that situation. 44:37.180 --> 44:41.400 Well, not if I was trying to hack your Bluetooth device. 44:41.400 --> 44:42.560 Well, true. 44:43.260 --> 44:44.320 So, you know what I mean? 44:44.400 --> 44:48.780 I mean, you would have to, it would take some time to do it. 44:49.300 --> 44:52.040 I mean, you can't, surely, not yet anyway. 44:52.280 --> 44:53.680 I haven't read of anything. 44:53.860 --> 45:00.700 But you could just, you know, brush up next to somebody with a Bluetooth device and just own them. 45:01.220 --> 45:02.920 Just get everything they've got. 45:03.440 --> 45:05.800 Just download Star, you know? 45:06.000 --> 45:06.380 Right. 45:06.720 --> 45:10.040 There's, I mean, I haven't heard of that yet. 45:10.040 --> 45:16.040 And until that happens, until I hear of someone doing that, and they show me how. 45:16.200 --> 45:17.820 I was going to say, it's not only hearing about it. 45:17.900 --> 45:19.200 I have to see it to believe it. 45:19.280 --> 45:22.320 I have to read about it and see if it's fundamentally sound. 45:22.680 --> 45:25.240 Yeah, and, man, pretty much I'm going to have to do it. 45:25.540 --> 45:25.980 Exactly. 45:25.980 --> 45:28.180 So, I don't know. 45:28.500 --> 45:31.560 If, you know, it's all about proximity, honestly. 45:31.860 --> 45:32.580 I don't know. 45:32.760 --> 45:33.940 What's the range of a Bluetooth device? 45:34.060 --> 45:34.540 10 feet? 45:34.740 --> 45:35.280 20 feet? 45:35.280 --> 45:41.180 It's very short, and that's why the example of it at a bus station is a great example. 45:41.440 --> 45:48.380 You, you know, it might be, even line of sight is not even a good explanation because it's not even that far. 45:48.660 --> 45:50.280 You have to be in a public place. 45:50.360 --> 45:51.220 You have to be in an airport. 45:51.420 --> 45:53.900 You have to be in a, you know, in a bar somewhere. 45:53.900 --> 46:02.560 They're, I don't know, you can be in a strip club, and if one of the strippers has a Bluetooth-enabled phone, you might be close enough to, you know, get her number or something like that. 46:03.300 --> 46:07.260 It has to be very close vicinity, personal proximity with someone. 46:07.560 --> 46:16.940 So, it would only be in a public place, and I guess it's, it would be awkward. 46:17.100 --> 46:20.400 You'd be easily busted if you were to follow someone to stay in proximity. 46:20.820 --> 46:21.040 Yeah. 46:21.040 --> 46:25.380 You know, see, it's not like you can follow someone down the street, or even in a car would probably be too far. 46:25.440 --> 46:26.240 I don't know about that. 46:27.540 --> 46:30.800 It definitely is something that only can happen in a public forum. 46:31.600 --> 46:32.960 Yeah, that's one thing to wardrobe. 46:33.780 --> 46:43.760 It's one thing for me to be sitting in a red light outside your house, you know, downloading everything you've got on your, you know, on your access point. 46:44.100 --> 46:47.320 Or remotely activating their webcam while they're getting it on. 46:47.560 --> 46:48.160 Yeah, exactly. 46:48.160 --> 46:49.540 I mean, that's one thing. 46:49.540 --> 47:01.300 But, there's no way that I, there's no way that I can drive by your house with my Bluetooth phone velcroed to my dashboard and just be downloading all your phone numbers. 47:01.880 --> 47:02.480 No way. 47:02.740 --> 47:04.580 I'm, I'm calling shenanigans on that. 47:05.280 --> 47:06.760 Well, maybe not yet. 47:06.940 --> 47:08.720 Somebody's going to put a Pringles can on there. 47:09.320 --> 47:09.560 Yeah. 47:09.560 --> 47:14.820 And make a directional Bluetooth, uh, uh, scope. 47:16.200 --> 47:22.640 Just, uh, duct tape your, duct tape your Bluetooth phone inside a coffee can, and there you go, you got a Yagi. 47:22.860 --> 47:23.500 There you go. 47:23.500 --> 47:27.180 Alright, well, anyway, interesting topic. 47:27.520 --> 47:32.140 Lots of, uh, Bluetooth stuff going on these days, and, uh, I'm researching it. 47:32.260 --> 47:37.380 I haven't seen any proof that there's anything vulnerable about Bluetooth yet. 47:37.500 --> 47:42.400 I'm going on the record and say that I haven't seen any Bluetooth legitimate vulnerabilities. 47:42.400 --> 47:52.860 If anybody has something to prove me wrong, or anybody knows more about it, like I said, contact us, letters @ binrev.com, with some links, with some actual proof. 47:52.940 --> 47:54.800 Now, like I said, I'm not saying that lightly. 47:54.940 --> 48:00.300 I've been out, uh, for the past couple weeks and doing the research, and I have not seen it. 48:00.400 --> 48:06.360 I've seen claims, but I have not seen details of somebody saying, this is how it works. 48:06.360 --> 48:17.820 Because if I can, even without the phone, if I can read it and say, okay, yes, that makes sense, yes, that would work, yes, that would work, you know, if I can go step-by-step and follow it, then I might give it some credibility. 48:18.260 --> 48:24.320 But so far, all I've seen are claims, which, frankly, claims don't mean a lot in the hacking world. 48:26.280 --> 48:30.620 So, that's it for our main topic, unless you had something else you wanted to add. 48:31.960 --> 48:34.780 No, no, it's about, we've exhausted the Bluetooth. 48:34.780 --> 48:37.040 Yeah, that's, but you know, it really is. 48:37.120 --> 48:46.480 I think we'll probably be talking about it more on the show in the future, as new vulnerabilities or new, um, news things start to come out about it. 48:46.640 --> 48:49.840 Um, I don't think we're going to start hearing more and more about it in general. 48:50.600 --> 48:59.340 So, um, for this episode, though, I think that's really all we're going to talk about until we, I, I gotta get a Bluetooth phone, man. 48:59.580 --> 49:02.680 I just gotta get a Bluetooth phone, but they're not cheap. 49:03.360 --> 49:03.720 No. 49:03.720 --> 49:04.940 They're not cheap right now. 49:05.040 --> 49:16.460 By the time my current phone expires, my current service contract, I should say, expires, I haven't decided if I'm going to keep that phone, because I kind of like it. 49:16.540 --> 49:17.660 I'd say it's a decent phone. 49:17.660 --> 49:31.880 I had planned on hoping, hoping that when, by the time that phone contract expires, that the new generation of phones would come out that have cameras built in, good quality cameras built in, I should say. 49:31.880 --> 49:33.880 I have a camera, but it's not the greatest quality. 49:33.880 --> 49:45.900 Um, and MP3 player, uh, you know, color screen, which mine has, uh, some PDA type things in it, um, which, you know, a lot of them are very basic. 49:45.900 --> 49:52.840 I really was hoping that we'd be closer to achieving that within one year, which is what I set my contract up for. 49:52.960 --> 50:02.560 I don't, I still, still makes me mad why Japan is, you know, light years ahead of us, and they've got phones that can, you know, scratch your nuts for you with just a thought to the phone. 50:03.040 --> 50:05.540 Yeah, well, they're, they're early adopters, man. 50:05.620 --> 50:08.520 They're a culture of early adopters, and that's why I've got to move there. 50:08.820 --> 50:11.420 Yeah, I, I definitely, definitely got to visit. 50:11.720 --> 50:21.780 You know what would be cool if they had a hackers convention in Japan, so we had a reason or an excuse to go over there, you know, and plan for it, and, ugh, I don't know. 50:22.220 --> 50:24.040 I definitely want to visit and check it out, though. 50:24.040 --> 50:25.260 There's no doubt about that. 50:25.640 --> 50:27.960 Man, I got, I got two weeks of vacation coming up. 50:28.080 --> 50:29.600 We should, uh, me and you should go to Tokyo. 50:29.600 --> 50:37.860 Well, make sure you save one for, uh, or at least a few of those days for H2K4, and yet as unnamed H2K4. 50:39.060 --> 50:44.660 And, um, and like I said, I'm, I'm trying DEF CON, and I'm, I'm trying Interzone. 50:45.200 --> 50:46.880 I hope them hit a lot of CONs this year. 50:48.080 --> 50:50.460 But we will definitely put Japan on the list. 50:50.900 --> 50:53.180 If I run out of vacation time, I'll just get sick. 50:54.020 --> 50:54.840 For two weeks. 50:54.980 --> 50:55.660 Yeah, exactly. 50:55.660 --> 51:00.620 Uh, well, maybe I'll be in a better situation by then, too. 51:00.700 --> 51:02.360 But that's totally off-topic. 51:02.980 --> 51:03.300 Um. 51:03.540 --> 51:05.600 Instantly, just to be off-topic as well. 51:05.740 --> 51:06.040 Okay. 51:06.800 --> 51:11.340 I'm hoping to be in a far better situation by about June or July. 51:11.900 --> 51:12.300 Good. 51:12.520 --> 51:13.080 Good to hear. 51:14.860 --> 51:15.720 Oh, man. 51:16.800 --> 51:18.640 The things we have to put up with, you know? 51:19.060 --> 51:19.960 Uh, I hear ya. 51:19.960 --> 51:27.000 If it wasn't for these projects, keeping our sanity would just be, even with these projects, 51:27.100 --> 51:29.720 keeping my sanity is kind of rough, but that's a whole nother story. 51:30.280 --> 51:34.360 Um, I stumbled across, have you ever heard of a Google search appliance? 51:35.680 --> 51:39.460 Um, I've heard of a prosthetic appliance. 51:39.460 --> 51:41.780 I don't think it's quite the same. 51:41.860 --> 51:42.740 I said Google. 51:43.420 --> 51:44.080 Oh, okay. 51:44.960 --> 51:45.440 Um. 51:46.540 --> 51:54.000 Apparently, Google has this device that, frankly, I'm not sure what its application is, to be 51:54.000 --> 51:54.540 honest with you. 51:54.860 --> 51:56.920 It's basically a rack-mounted server. 51:58.140 --> 51:59.500 And it's painted yellow. 51:59.640 --> 52:01.340 It's got the Google logo all over it. 52:01.340 --> 52:08.000 It's a Google server, rack-mounted server, that uses Google's patented page-ranked technology, 52:08.000 --> 52:14.040 not that I'm pimping that out or anything, but, to power search engines within corporations 52:14.040 --> 52:16.600 or within your, your sites or your locations. 52:17.460 --> 52:22.360 But, I don't see the application, I don't understand why you would have this and pay this 52:22.360 --> 52:24.640 money for the server, which I don't know the cost. 52:24.720 --> 52:26.180 I didn't check that far into it. 52:26.940 --> 52:29.440 But, Google, you can make Google the search site. 52:29.440 --> 52:35.280 You can use the Google technology on your website as a search engine just by, they have 52:35.280 --> 52:37.880 free APIs that'll let you do that. 52:38.680 --> 52:45.020 And even without that, you can, you can put site colon and put the site name in there and 52:45.020 --> 52:49.080 hard, you know, and force it to search only within your site with their technology. 52:49.160 --> 52:51.260 I don't quite see what the point is of buying. 52:51.360 --> 52:52.900 I'm sure it's probably pretty expensive. 52:54.820 --> 52:56.060 Yeah, I don't know. 52:57.240 --> 52:57.960 I don't know. 52:57.960 --> 53:03.040 You know, that might be, the only thing I can think of that it would be really useful 53:03.040 --> 53:08.720 for is that if you have an internal, if you have an intranet. 53:09.720 --> 53:11.060 Oh, that's a good point, yeah. 53:11.440 --> 53:14.340 And you don't want anyone to have access to the outside world. 53:14.740 --> 53:15.180 Right. 53:15.680 --> 53:20.460 It's basically a way of them giving you all the Google codes without having to give you 53:20.460 --> 53:21.260 the Google codes. 53:21.260 --> 53:22.640 I got you. 53:23.140 --> 53:24.100 I got you. 53:24.960 --> 53:26.760 Yeah, that does, that does make sense. 53:26.920 --> 53:28.100 That absolutely makes sense. 53:28.980 --> 53:36.760 Um, even, yeah, that makes sense because you don't want anybody from out on the internet 53:36.760 --> 53:42.460 coming in so you wouldn't have access, so you wouldn't give access out to Google to use 53:42.460 --> 53:43.360 that site function. 53:43.740 --> 53:44.120 Right. 53:44.120 --> 53:45.460 Yeah, I can see that. 53:45.460 --> 53:51.840 Now, I wonder how much that functionality costs and whether it's really worthwhile to 53:51.840 --> 54:03.260 use that for, and you don't think of an intranet as being that needy of a powerful search engine, 54:03.260 --> 54:07.420 but I guess maybe we're just not exposed to an environment where it's, where it's necessary. 54:07.640 --> 54:08.980 Well, think of like... 54:08.980 --> 54:12.140 Because, I mean, can't you, there are other search engines that are, you know, there's 54:12.140 --> 54:16.920 probably free and open source search engines out there and built into the servers that you 54:16.920 --> 54:21.600 use, they probably come with some type of, um, search engine that comes with the package 54:21.600 --> 54:22.040 as well. 54:22.120 --> 54:26.740 It may not be the best, but is it really worth spending all that money for? 54:26.740 --> 54:35.880 Uh, it depends on if, you know, if implementation costs are going to be better than, you know, 54:35.920 --> 54:40.000 having to pay John Hacks or to, uh, lift that up for you. 54:41.420 --> 54:45.960 Yeah, I guess it would also depend on how much it costs, so, um, I didn't go that far with 54:45.960 --> 54:46.080 it. 54:46.120 --> 54:49.620 They wanted you to give contact information so they could probably have a salesman call 54:49.620 --> 54:51.360 you, which indicates it's not cheap. 54:51.660 --> 54:52.420 Yeah, no kidding. 54:52.420 --> 54:57.120 So, you know, um, I, you know, in reading about this here, I'm going to, I'm going to 54:57.120 --> 54:58.160 put you on the spot here. 54:58.900 --> 55:02.540 Um, I was reading some of the case studies for this, for the device. 55:02.860 --> 55:04.380 In other words, who uses it? 55:04.440 --> 55:06.160 Some of the people that actually have it in implementation. 55:06.700 --> 55:09.880 And I just saw this interesting little piece of trivia. 55:10.760 --> 55:13.840 The, one of their clients is a .org site. 55:14.240 --> 55:20.060 And their claim is that they are the most visited .org organization in the world. 55:20.060 --> 55:24.140 The most visited non-profit organization website in the world. 55:24.680 --> 55:26.020 You have any idea who that could be? 55:28.040 --> 55:30.060 It's a lot of .orgs out there. 55:30.060 --> 55:34.420 Now, my inclination is to say pussy.org. 55:35.720 --> 55:38.060 Because I know I hit them a lot. 55:38.260 --> 55:39.040 A lot, huh? 55:39.680 --> 55:42.460 Yeah, um, let's see. 55:43.600 --> 55:44.060 .org. 55:44.060 --> 55:48.420 Um, let me say. 55:48.560 --> 55:50.160 Non-profit organization. 55:50.340 --> 55:52.880 You can think, like, even just try to think of that offhand. 55:53.020 --> 55:54.960 I think of, like, Red Cross. 55:55.240 --> 55:56.360 I think of, um. 55:56.520 --> 55:57.740 Like Amnesty International. 55:58.100 --> 55:59.020 Yeah, Boy Scouts. 55:59.100 --> 56:00.020 Are they .org anymore? 56:00.120 --> 56:00.560 I don't know. 56:00.900 --> 56:01.260 I don't know. 56:01.260 --> 56:02.220 No, they may be private. 56:02.320 --> 56:03.060 I don't know what they are. 56:04.280 --> 56:05.660 Um, gosh. 56:07.040 --> 56:11.360 Is there, like, is there, like, a big, like, Catholic Church .org or something? 56:11.360 --> 56:13.360 I, really, I don't know. 56:14.060 --> 56:15.600 Well, I'll let you off the hook. 56:16.220 --> 56:18.500 And you'll, you'll slap your forehead when I tell you. 56:18.580 --> 56:19.900 I guess it kind of makes sense. 56:20.440 --> 56:23.380 The number one visited .org in the world is PBS. 56:24.500 --> 56:26.100 Public Broadcasting Station. 56:26.720 --> 56:27.080 Okay. 56:27.500 --> 56:28.600 PBS.org. 56:29.240 --> 56:35.020 And, apparently, they're, they use the Google appliance and were raving about how great it was for them. 56:35.020 --> 56:45.520 Um, but, again, they're, they're, maybe, I don't know if they're raving about, do they use it for their internet or, you know, their, their public webpage or an intro, internal network, intranet? 56:46.840 --> 56:54.200 I don't know if, you know, if I want to find out when Keeping Up Appearance is going to come on, you know, I don't, I don't know, man. 56:54.420 --> 56:54.740 Hmm. 56:54.740 --> 57:03.160 Um, yeah, well, that, that's, I don't know, it's kind of an interesting idea and I guess it would look cool in your rack, sir, in your server rack. 57:03.980 --> 57:09.140 It would kind of look cool mixed in with your Dells and your glowing, your blue lights and stuff like that. 57:09.220 --> 57:13.500 But, yeah, I don't know that it would be worth the money when you can get the same thing for free. 57:14.240 --> 57:15.780 I guess that would be my concern. 57:16.060 --> 57:21.280 But, hey, if you got some money laying around, you want to throw it at something that would look cool, hey, go for it. 57:21.720 --> 57:22.300 By all means. 57:22.300 --> 57:26.560 Um, of course, before you do that, order a couple extra copies of BinRev Magazine. 57:27.040 --> 57:30.080 Yes, please, because Daddy needs a new pair of shoes. 57:30.340 --> 57:31.940 Exactly, Daddy needs a new sock. 57:33.400 --> 57:35.660 Yeah, this one's got a hole in it, it's cold outside. 57:37.240 --> 57:37.560 Oh. 57:38.680 --> 57:46.940 Um, all right, I have, all right, here's another interesting, last week I talked about the, um, CD Shredder and how cool that was. 57:46.980 --> 57:52.280 It was like in a, I think it was Time Magazine had their, it was in their cool new products or something like that. 57:53.040 --> 58:03.820 Well, funny enough, my new, uh, my new issue of Popular Science Magazine came out and they also had an annual, it's called, what they call the best of what's new. 58:03.820 --> 58:11.680 Which is a similar thing where they go category by category and talk about, um, what the cool technology is. 58:11.680 --> 58:27.900 And what they, and they break it down by category like, um, aeronautics and, um, I don't know, engineering and, and human genome, what do they call it, bio, whatever, biotechnical. 58:27.900 --> 58:40.360 Well, for the computing industry, the number one technology for the computer, think, think over the past year, this is in the past year, the number one computing technology. 58:40.360 --> 58:45.180 Now, you see on the show notes what it is, but can you think of anything that would have been better? 58:46.600 --> 58:49.060 I, I would say DVD recordable. 58:50.840 --> 58:51.240 Hmm. 58:51.240 --> 58:55.600 Yeah, that's, that's really coming to its own in the last year. 58:55.800 --> 58:57.100 Yeah, prices are dropping. 58:57.800 --> 58:59.300 I don't know what their criteria is. 58:59.300 --> 59:01.280 Is it something that was invented in the past year? 59:01.360 --> 59:04.980 Of course, I don't think this was invented in the past year. 59:04.980 --> 59:09.220 It just also came mainstream, I think, in the past year. 59:09.360 --> 59:11.840 But the winner was 802.11G. 59:13.020 --> 59:18.000 Not, not 802.11B, not normal Wi-Fi, but 802.11G. 59:18.960 --> 59:23.380 And the reasoning for it was, well, pretty, pretty straightforward. 59:23.500 --> 59:28.720 We all know that 802.11B is kind of slow, but it has long distances. 59:28.720 --> 59:33.340 It'll reach out quite far, at the thanks of war drivers everywhere. 59:33.340 --> 59:38.540 802.11, on the other hand, goes real fast, but it doesn't have the same range. 59:39.720 --> 59:47.560 So, 802.11G is that mix where it takes both of those features and puts them together. 59:47.680 --> 59:50.760 You can have the range, and you can have the high speed. 59:51.500 --> 59:53.180 So, and it's backwards compatible. 59:53.760 --> 01:00:01.200 Now, you'll need new hardware, you'll need 802.11G devices to take advantage of all the new speed and range. 01:00:01.200 --> 01:00:06.480 But, for example, if you had an 802.11G hub, and you still had a couple old computers, 01:00:06.680 --> 01:00:14.040 or your laptop was using an 802.11B card, it would still work backwards compatible at the old 11 megabits per second speed. 01:00:14.820 --> 01:00:21.180 So, that's what they named as the top best of what's new. 01:00:21.180 --> 01:00:26.360 That was the top thing for computing, which I get, and it is, it's pretty good. 01:00:26.660 --> 01:00:32.540 I mean, it really is a good thing, but a lot of people have already invested money into 802.11B. 01:00:33.040 --> 01:00:33.440 Yeah. 01:00:33.620 --> 01:00:41.000 And even though both of them are fairly cheap and reasonably priced compared to other old school hardwired network equipment, 01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:46.000 I don't know that it's going to be easy enough or cost effective enough to upgrade already. 01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:54.500 You know, some companies have still, you know, just within the past six months or a year, finally accepted 802.11B. 01:00:55.300 --> 01:01:00.300 And some of them, to this day and in the future, still haven't, you know, are going to go 802.11B instead of G. 01:01:00.300 --> 01:01:08.980 So, I don't know how long it's going to take for this to really become more widespread, but I do agree that it is a big one. 01:01:09.060 --> 01:01:11.480 DVD burners, that's another one. That's another good one. 01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:16.540 Maybe the Blue Laser DVDs might be something else to discuss. 01:01:16.640 --> 01:01:19.860 It might be something that could have been in the running, you know? 01:01:20.580 --> 01:01:20.920 Yeah. 01:01:21.200 --> 01:01:24.620 But I don't think they mentioned any of those on the list. 01:01:24.680 --> 01:01:27.500 They had a list of some others, but I don't think those were on there. 01:01:27.500 --> 01:01:33.140 There was, they had a software, let's see, they had a list of other ones, like I said. 01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:41.400 One thing on there that did catch my eye is they had, there was only one piece of software on the list, if I remember correctly, 01:01:41.680 --> 01:01:46.000 and it was called Waste, W-A-S-T-E. 01:01:47.080 --> 01:01:55.340 Now, if that sounds familiar, the reason why is because back on episode 13 of Binary Revolution Radio, 01:01:55.340 --> 01:02:00.520 we talked about this piece of software, and it is, according to the, this is a quote, 01:02:00.940 --> 01:02:06.400 it is an impenetrable peer-to-peer network for file sharing. 01:02:08.160 --> 01:02:10.820 That's strong words, impenetrable. 01:02:11.320 --> 01:02:12.520 How cool is that? 01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:13.780 That's a bold statement. 01:02:13.780 --> 01:02:22.320 Dude, that is, that is cool, and it also includes instant messages, chatting, group chat, stuff like that, 01:02:22.820 --> 01:02:31.740 all encrypted, all within this, you know, if, if, if you don't remember, go check out episode 13 where we talked about it, 01:02:31.740 --> 01:02:36.960 or you can go check out their website, there'll be links in the show notes back on episode 13, 01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:44.580 I'm sure there's a link there, and we'll put them in again this time, but this is one of the greatest pieces of software 01:02:44.580 --> 01:02:54.160 in the privacy, I don't know, industry, that affects people's privacy and gives people privacy again. 01:02:54.500 --> 01:02:58.360 It's a huge, huge step for privacy in this country. 01:02:58.460 --> 01:02:59.200 It really is. 01:02:59.200 --> 01:03:08.720 You can finally have a way to chat with people, and peer-to-peer file sharing, sure, you can use any or all of these features that it offers, 01:03:09.500 --> 01:03:13.000 but, you know, even if you just want to chat with someone privately and feel safe, 01:03:13.020 --> 01:03:18.200 like you don't have your government spying on everything you do, finally you have a way to do that. 01:03:18.200 --> 01:03:29.540 So, waste is a huge, huge invention, or it's a good thing for people who are concerned with their privacy. 01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:36.600 So, again, that was episode 13, you can go check that out, and give it a shot. 01:03:36.660 --> 01:03:40.980 I still want to try it, I have the source code and everything, I haven't compiled it and put it together, 01:03:40.980 --> 01:03:44.320 but I will, I will very soon. 01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:51.880 Now, I'm going to, this will be our last topic for the day, this one, because this is, wow, this is a big, this is a big headline. 01:03:53.020 --> 01:03:55.780 The story isn't all that great, but the headline is huge. 01:03:57.220 --> 01:03:58.800 And, you know what, do you want to read it? 01:03:58.880 --> 01:03:59.820 Do you want to read it to the people? 01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:03.320 I will, just because I never thought I'd hear this. 01:04:03.520 --> 01:04:03.860 Right? 01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:05.180 Do we need a drum roll? 01:04:05.660 --> 01:04:08.220 Yeah, we need a, listen, never mind. 01:04:09.120 --> 01:04:11.320 All right, go with it. 01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:15.520 Microsoft goes open source. 01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:16.920 What, what, what, what? 01:04:17.540 --> 01:04:18.600 Let me read that again. 01:04:19.460 --> 01:04:22.880 Microsoft goes open source. 01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:24.560 Wow. 01:04:25.420 --> 01:04:26.180 Wow. 01:04:26.380 --> 01:04:28.220 Microsoft open source. 01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:30.240 They have finally seen the light. 01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:34.100 Yeah, well, I wouldn't, let's not start sucking, well, that's. 01:04:34.640 --> 01:04:35.060 Yeah. 01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:35.760 Yeah. 01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:38.260 Like we said, the headline sounds great. 01:04:38.980 --> 01:04:41.440 The facts of the story are much, much different. 01:04:42.600 --> 01:04:51.040 They, Microsoft recently announced that they were giving more than 100 million lines of code to the MVP. 01:04:52.740 --> 01:04:56.620 MVP meaning their most valuable professionals. 01:04:56.980 --> 01:04:59.500 Yeah, 100 million lines of code, by the way. 01:04:59.720 --> 01:05:00.080 Yeah. 01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:02.560 Is the, is the start button. 01:05:02.560 --> 01:05:05.380 Yeah, probably, just the start button alone. 01:05:05.740 --> 01:05:06.260 Yeah, that's it. 01:05:06.460 --> 01:05:07.560 And a lot of that's comments. 01:05:11.820 --> 01:05:13.620 Microsoft bashing is so fun. 01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:18.960 Yeah, it's, it's 100 million lines and 99 million of them are go-tos. 01:05:20.760 --> 01:05:22.280 Go-to start menu. 01:05:23.560 --> 01:05:28.860 Their MVPs is most valuable professionals, which is companies that they work closely with. 01:05:28.860 --> 01:05:42.760 So, supposedly, they've released all their code from, all their OS, from Windows 2000, Windows XP, Server 2003, and all the service pack, service releases for them. 01:05:43.300 --> 01:05:48.140 And, it's something that they're calling their shared source initiative. 01:05:48.140 --> 01:05:53.340 Now, A, do we buy this? 01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:56.300 Do we believe that they're actually doing this, first of all? 01:05:56.620 --> 01:05:56.900 No. 01:05:57.400 --> 01:06:00.720 That not, it's not, you don't think they're giving source code away at all? 01:06:01.680 --> 01:06:04.540 Yeah, but it's not, I mean. 01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:05.480 Complete? 01:06:05.940 --> 01:06:07.260 No, it's not complete. 01:06:07.380 --> 01:06:20.460 Because they're, you know, call me a player hater, call me whatever you want to, but Windows, man, if you ever, like, set up a sniffer on your network, 01:06:20.460 --> 01:06:34.060 and you just read all the time, all the amount of traffic that just idly goes from your computer to Redmond, Washington, there's no way, man. 01:06:34.220 --> 01:06:41.300 There's no way they, this is going to be, man, this thing's going to be blacked out like the Warren Commission report, dude. 01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:42.300 Hmm. 01:06:42.300 --> 01:06:50.940 They're, they're going to give you, I'll, if it is more or less, you know, complete, as in it will compile, sure. 01:06:52.100 --> 01:06:59.640 Complete, as in it's the same, it's the same XP that's on my box in the, in the bedroom, no. 01:07:00.420 --> 01:07:01.320 And, that's a good point. 01:07:01.360 --> 01:07:04.120 I would like to see what the build version is. 01:07:04.920 --> 01:07:07.460 I would like to see what the build version that they have is. 01:07:07.460 --> 01:07:12.860 And, if it's even, well, they claim from multiple OS's, though. 01:07:13.580 --> 01:07:16.360 They're claiming that all the different OS's they've released this code for. 01:07:16.500 --> 01:07:21.880 Now, I have read before that they released a lot of source code for .NET and some of that architecture, 01:07:22.080 --> 01:07:29.500 and it's because they wanted developers to have access to a lot of that so they could spark developers into developing for their OS, 01:07:29.600 --> 01:07:32.120 which further increases their dominance. 01:07:32.120 --> 01:07:37.260 The more people develop for it, the more users want it so they can use the software that is, in turn, developed. 01:07:37.400 --> 01:07:39.200 You know, it's a never-ending loop. 01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:44.840 Now, releasing the code from all the different operating systems, I agree with you. 01:07:44.900 --> 01:07:46.500 I think they watered a lot of it down. 01:07:46.580 --> 01:07:47.920 They took out a bunch of modules. 01:07:48.080 --> 01:07:49.800 Now, I would love to see the code. 01:07:50.260 --> 01:07:52.740 I would like to see how smart their programming is. 01:07:53.200 --> 01:08:00.280 Do you think it's modular enough where they can easily remove the tell-everything-to-Microsoft module 01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:03.160 and then recompile it and it looks, the snacks, the same? 01:08:03.240 --> 01:08:05.300 Do you think it's just a simple plug-in-type deal? 01:08:05.300 --> 01:08:09.900 Yeah, it's got to be, because you know how they, you know how the code whores are. 01:08:10.180 --> 01:08:12.640 All those people, all the slaves down in the code pits. 01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:13.380 Mm-hmm. 01:08:13.640 --> 01:08:19.900 I mean, you just, you know, you know, X34395, because the guy probably didn't even have a name, 01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:22.420 he gets this module, you know? 01:08:22.860 --> 01:08:23.240 Right. 01:08:23.240 --> 01:08:28.740 And then some guy who is really, really trusted, who is, you know, who Bill Gates has cloned himself, 01:08:28.900 --> 01:08:34.560 you know, it's like the most trusted guy gets to put all the modules together and make the software run. 01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:40.300 And then every time a new operating system is released, that lead programmer person is killed, 01:08:40.620 --> 01:08:42.220 so that no one knows the truth. 01:08:42.220 --> 01:08:43.320 Yeah, exactly. 01:08:43.540 --> 01:08:45.560 He's, yeah, he is summarily killed. 01:08:45.940 --> 01:08:46.440 Mm-hmm. 01:08:46.520 --> 01:08:55.060 And, but, you know, I mean, seriously, in all seriousness, if you give me the source code for XP, 01:08:56.060 --> 01:09:02.240 I guarantee you that it would just, it would be bad. 01:09:02.240 --> 01:09:11.660 Because if you think about all the vulnerabilities that you can find and that have been found in just XP, 01:09:12.540 --> 01:09:12.860 Mm-hmm. 01:09:13.100 --> 01:09:16.660 And that's running soft ice, that's that debugging, okay? 01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:17.300 Mm-hmm. 01:09:17.480 --> 01:09:18.460 Finding vulnerabilities. 01:09:19.900 --> 01:09:28.400 But if you give me the code for XP, it's going to be on until the break of dawn. 01:09:28.400 --> 01:09:32.380 That's going to take you a lot of break of dawns to go through 100 million lines of code. 01:09:32.740 --> 01:09:36.260 Nah, nah, I can, I can parse that, take it to crap, dude. 01:09:37.080 --> 01:09:38.140 Just grip through it. 01:09:38.500 --> 01:09:39.100 Yeah, just grip. 01:09:39.360 --> 01:09:39.900 For vulnerabilities. 01:09:40.520 --> 01:09:42.220 Yeah, that's, that's my favorite pipe grip. 01:09:42.320 --> 01:09:42.880 Pipe grip fault. 01:09:43.160 --> 01:09:43.720 There you go. 01:09:43.980 --> 01:09:47.840 But, uh, no, um, you can do it, man. 01:09:47.980 --> 01:09:49.280 I, I guarantee you, there would be a... 01:09:49.280 --> 01:09:51.500 We can release the DDP operating system. 01:09:52.060 --> 01:09:54.200 Yeah, and, and the other thing I was going to say... 01:09:54.200 --> 01:09:55.280 Windows DDP. 01:09:55.700 --> 01:09:58.080 Yeah, Windows DDP runs slugs. 01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:06.680 But if you give me the source code to XP, I'll give you all the functionality about a gig and a half smaller. 01:10:06.920 --> 01:10:07.480 Yeah, right. 01:10:07.880 --> 01:10:10.620 You know, and you only need, like, 32 megas of RAM to run it. 01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:12.040 Yeah, just take out the go-tos. 01:10:12.480 --> 01:10:14.480 Yeah, I'll take out all the go-tos and all the comments. 01:10:15.480 --> 01:10:15.680 Mm-hmm. 01:10:15.740 --> 01:10:16.860 Uh, all the help files. 01:10:17.300 --> 01:10:17.620 Yeah. 01:10:18.100 --> 01:10:21.700 Take out all this sample AVI, sample embedded stuff. 01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:24.600 Yeah, take all, all that David Bowie, take all that out. 01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:26.600 And put Fluxbox on it. 01:10:26.940 --> 01:10:30.320 And, uh, yeah, it'll be a pretty, it'll be a, it'll be like 98 second edition. 01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:34.320 All that bundled and integrated bonus software. 01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:35.800 Yeah, all that crap's got to go. 01:10:35.840 --> 01:10:38.400 All that Plus Pack, all the media player, that's, that's... 01:10:38.400 --> 01:10:39.040 Exactly. 01:10:39.660 --> 01:10:40.440 Get it out! 01:10:41.100 --> 01:10:41.340 Yep. 01:10:41.500 --> 01:10:41.960 Get it out! 01:10:42.600 --> 01:10:45.660 Everything's embedded, all the, uh, you know, except for the CD burner. 01:10:46.420 --> 01:10:46.720 Yeah. 01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:48.240 Exactly. 01:10:48.660 --> 01:10:54.640 Well, I still can't help but wonder if, okay, like the, uh, the MPAA, for example. 01:10:55.760 --> 01:11:01.540 We all know that a lot of the movies and stuff that are released out on the internet that get pirated, 01:11:01.980 --> 01:11:04.260 they come out before the movie ever was released. 01:11:04.820 --> 01:11:06.380 You know it's an inside job. 01:11:06.940 --> 01:11:07.360 Oh, yeah. 01:11:07.360 --> 01:11:14.060 How long is it going to take before, if they're releasing this code and it truly is full code that can compile and run, 01:11:14.380 --> 01:11:18.760 how long before it leaks out from one of these MVP, most valuable professionals? 01:11:19.640 --> 01:11:20.640 I hope not long. 01:11:20.860 --> 01:11:26.420 Hopefully there's some hacker that's in one of these groups or in one of these, uh, most valuable professional companies 01:11:26.420 --> 01:11:28.400 that can get their hands on it. 01:11:28.500 --> 01:11:32.440 Now, if it really is a hundred million lines of code, I mean, let's take them at face value. 01:11:32.520 --> 01:11:33.800 Let's say it really is that much. 01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:35.680 Gosh, that's going to be a lot of space. 01:11:37.160 --> 01:11:39.900 I don't know how you spread something like that on the internet easily. 01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:43.520 It's not like, you know, that's like a hard drive. 01:11:44.380 --> 01:11:48.040 Yeah, a hundred million lines of code, that's a lot. 01:11:48.500 --> 01:11:49.920 Yeah, that could be a lot. 01:11:49.980 --> 01:11:52.920 Even if it's just plain text, that's a lot of plain text. 01:11:53.400 --> 01:11:54.980 That's like, that's like 10 gigs, isn't it? 01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:55.680 Or 100 gigs? 01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:59.000 Well, it would depend, of course, on the line. 01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:01.220 Well, it would depend on a lot of things. 01:12:01.740 --> 01:12:03.140 It would depend on a lot of things. 01:12:03.800 --> 01:12:04.800 To measure that. 01:12:05.300 --> 01:12:08.780 Even instead of 100 million lines, it was 100 million characters. 01:12:09.020 --> 01:12:10.900 Yeah, now that you could measure more easily. 01:12:14.420 --> 01:12:15.960 Suffice it to say, it's a lot. 01:12:16.400 --> 01:12:16.660 Yeah. 01:12:16.740 --> 01:12:17.240 That's a lot. 01:12:17.660 --> 01:12:20.940 And that's a lot of material for this show, I think. 01:12:21.380 --> 01:12:21.900 I hope. 01:12:23.260 --> 01:12:24.740 Got a lot of stuff in there today. 01:12:24.740 --> 01:12:28.960 And it is time to jump into the shout-outs. 01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:35.340 Now, I already mentioned it earlier, but my shouts this week go to Decoder and Lucky 225. 01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:37.240 Got to check out Default Radio. 01:12:37.560 --> 01:12:40.840 I was lucky enough to record an opening for them. 01:12:41.080 --> 01:12:42.500 Very, very cool show. 01:12:42.500 --> 01:12:48.200 Very fun show to listen to, which that was the best part, that it was informative and fun. 01:12:49.220 --> 01:12:51.620 So, definitely check out Default Radio. 01:12:52.660 --> 01:12:58.660 Again, information is in the forums, and we will provide a link from the show notes, but definitely check them out. 01:12:58.660 --> 01:13:03.720 And Rant Radio in general, you know, Default Radio is not on Rant Radio. 01:13:03.900 --> 01:13:08.780 They're streaming from their own server right now, and I don't know what their future is. 01:13:08.860 --> 01:13:13.460 But for me, anyway, Rant Radio, I mentioned earlier, they split up into three channels. 01:13:13.640 --> 01:13:14.680 They're getting more organized. 01:13:16.640 --> 01:13:20.140 And they give us a place to stream every week, each and every week. 01:13:20.300 --> 01:13:23.900 So, more often I probably should thank them and give them shout-outs. 01:13:23.900 --> 01:13:28.900 But I want to thank Rant Radio for giving us a forum and giving us a place to put this out. 01:13:29.440 --> 01:13:32.520 We could, sure, we could stream from our own server. 01:13:32.720 --> 01:13:40.580 I could set up Shoutcast or whatever and activate it every whatever day at a certain time and stream it. 01:13:40.820 --> 01:13:47.980 But Rant Radio makes it so much easier for us and gives us that forum to do it more easily 01:13:47.980 --> 01:13:50.480 so that we can concentrate on the content of it 01:13:50.480 --> 01:13:54.440 and basically leech their bandwidth at the same time. 01:13:55.160 --> 01:13:57.080 So, definitely shout-out to them. 01:13:58.480 --> 01:14:01.140 And shout-out to you, Bland, two in a row. 01:14:01.720 --> 01:14:02.760 Two episodes in a row. 01:14:03.160 --> 01:14:04.800 Oh, yes, it's good to be here. 01:14:05.060 --> 01:14:10.400 You're the voice of Radio Freak America and the voice of Binary Revolution Radio. 01:14:11.060 --> 01:14:12.820 Yeah, I'm holding down two jobs. 01:14:13.060 --> 01:14:13.320 Yeah. 01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:17.220 I have to have you on Default Radio, on Blow on this radio. 01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:19.200 Publish me in frack. 01:14:19.200 --> 01:14:22.740 Yeah, and the new projects we talked about. 01:14:23.080 --> 01:14:23.500 Oh, yeah. 01:14:25.260 --> 01:14:26.660 Anybody else you want to shout-out? 01:14:27.440 --> 01:14:29.780 Just, again, big ups to Duel, man. 01:14:30.360 --> 01:14:31.840 Got to represent the parallel. 01:14:32.220 --> 01:14:34.040 Brother of the same color. 01:14:34.440 --> 01:14:36.000 Oh, yeah, I got to go back into G mode. 01:14:36.420 --> 01:14:36.640 Oh, yeah. 01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:37.500 Yup, yup, yeah. 01:14:37.660 --> 01:14:44.040 So, you want to hit me back, you can hit me on the emizzle at letters @ binrev.com. 01:14:44.040 --> 01:14:53.320 And our closing music tonight, dropping it for you, is MC Non-Polynomial, called Algorithm of Love. 01:14:54.140 --> 01:15:00.580 And I am Stank Dizzy, dropping it to you, along with... 01:15:00.580 --> 01:15:01.880 Bland and Quizzle Nizzle. 01:15:02.280 --> 01:15:04.040 And Quizzle in the house. 01:15:04.040 --> 01:15:07.480 And we will see you next week. 01:15:07.700 --> 01:15:09.580 Same, here's that time. 01:15:10.260 --> 01:15:12.220 Same, here's that, here's that. 01:15:12.460 --> 01:15:13.140 Be there. 01:15:13.140 --> 01:15:19.440 I was walking down the street, just thinking about maths. 01:15:19.440 --> 01:15:21.860 And like Dijkstra, I was walking by the shortest path. 01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:26.780 Suddenly, I was distracted from my calculator by a girl I had spotted on my head's off radar. 01:15:31.680 --> 01:15:36.360 Now, I wanted to say hello, but my face had gone bright red. 01:15:37.040 --> 01:15:39.340 I knew I'd choke, and then I'd be a joke. 01:15:39.340 --> 01:15:43.840 So, I turned tail and flesh, back to my PC instead. 01:15:46.440 --> 01:15:51.480 I had to find a way to get to ya, so I asked my favorite lecturer. 01:15:52.060 --> 01:15:54.800 I told him my problem, and he just shrugged and said, 01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:57.040 Sonny, you need the algorithm of love. 01:16:01.360 --> 01:16:04.380 Well, my homies, they're out there shooting their hooks. 01:16:04.380 --> 01:16:08.160 While I'm stuck here in this infinite loop, my PC's saying, 01:16:08.280 --> 01:16:10.620 Does not compute the damage, girl. 01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:14.460 I know that you're cute, cause I've been working it out here on these punch cards. 01:16:14.560 --> 01:16:16.840 And the way that you're power is making NP hard. 01:16:16.960 --> 01:16:19.300 So, I'm keeping it up, never missing a beat. 01:16:19.540 --> 01:16:21.680 Cause if you've a massager, I'll be NP complete. 01:16:21.980 --> 01:16:24.380 It's by two root two, that I'm bounded above. 01:16:24.380 --> 01:16:27.120 And I'm coming, with my algorithm of love. 01:16:29.020 --> 01:16:29.580 Algorithm. 01:16:29.800 --> 01:16:30.380 Algorithm. 01:16:30.380 --> 01:16:31.380 Algorithm. 01:16:32.380 --> 01:16:33.380 Algorithm. 01:16:33.380 --> 01:16:34.380 Algorithm. 01:16:34.380 --> 01:16:35.500 Algorithm. 01:16:35.880 --> 01:16:37.100 Algorithm of love. 01:16:37.220 --> 01:16:39.440 My good friend Jimmy, he told me to chill. 01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:41.900 He said to look at it, like I was a climbin' a hill. 01:16:41.980 --> 01:16:44.540 He said, don't get caught up by this attraction. 01:16:44.800 --> 01:16:47.120 Cause you were nothing but a local maximum. 01:16:47.580 --> 01:16:49.460 I said, Jimmy, I know how you're feelin'. 01:16:49.460 --> 01:16:56.560 But don't worry, I'm using simulated annealing to keep me headed in the right direction for a guaranteed erection. 01:16:57.000 --> 01:17:01.500 So you can take your greedy approaches and just give me room to focus. 01:17:02.280 --> 01:17:07.160 And Jimmy, you know when push comes to shove, I'll be beating you with my algorithm of love. 01:17:09.160 --> 01:17:09.680 Algorithm. 01:17:09.680 --> 01:17:10.240 Algorithm. 01:17:10.240 --> 01:17:11.240 Algorithm. 01:17:11.240 --> 01:17:12.240 Algorithm. 01:17:12.240 --> 01:17:13.240 Algorithm. 01:17:13.240 --> 01:17:14.240 Algorithm. 01:17:14.240 --> 01:17:17.280 Algorithm of love. 01:17:19.460 --> 01:17:23.740 I'm gonna breadth first search for it. 01:17:24.100 --> 01:17:26.260 I'm gonna depth first search for it. 01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:31.300 I'm gonna visit all the edges in minimum time, if you know what I mean. 01:17:31.860 --> 01:17:33.320 I'm a nerd code lover. 01:17:33.640 --> 01:17:36.440 And I'm getting code because I'm the best one I've ever seen. 01:17:36.940 --> 01:17:42.180 It's by 2RootU that I'm bounded above and I'm comin' with my algorithm of love. 01:17:42.360 --> 01:17:44.420 It's by 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2RootU. 01:17:44.420 --> 01:17:46.960 It's by 2, 2, 2, 2, 2RootU. 01:17:47.120 --> 01:17:49.320 It's by 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2. 01:17:49.320 --> 01:17:52.200 And I'm coming with my algorithm above 01:17:52.200 --> 01:17:54.620 Two, two, two, two, algorithm 01:17:54.620 --> 01:17:57.280 Two, two, two, two, algorithm 01:17:57.280 --> 01:17:59.680 Ag, ag, ag, ag, ag, algorithm 01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:02.120 Agar rhythm, agar rhythm above 01:18:02.120 --> 01:18:03.860 I'm going a breadth first search for it 01:18:03.860 --> 01:18:06.400 I'm going a depth first search for it 01:18:06.400 --> 01:18:09.740 I'm going to visit all your engines in minimum time 01:18:09.740 --> 01:18:11.540 If you know what I mean 01:18:11.540 --> 01:18:13.420 I'm a nerd code lover 01:18:13.420 --> 01:18:16.580 And under the code, because I'm the best you've ever seen 01:18:16.580 --> 01:18:46.560 We'll see you next time.