WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:08.000 This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers 00:08.000 --> 00:12.900 I see in binary, I speak source code 00:12.900 --> 00:16.780 Step on my toes, I'll post a million game pegs of you in a fag pose 00:16.780 --> 00:19.400 In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho 00:19.400 --> 00:21.920 Cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold 00:21.920 --> 00:23.720 I was a dick with my 56 00:23.720 --> 00:26.720 Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable 00:26.720 --> 00:29.000 On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo 00:29.000 --> 00:32.740 On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero 00:32.740 --> 00:35.420 In a flash, I'll screw you on burning dreamcast 00:35.420 --> 00:38.640 You need some ISOs? Let me through my hard drive rifle 00:38.640 --> 00:40.660 Our exchange you could never stifle 00:40.660 --> 00:43.820 In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug 00:43.820 --> 00:47.840 I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z 00:47.840 --> 00:50.060 Your CG, it's all gonna be free 00:50.060 --> 00:52.440 Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely 00:52.440 --> 00:54.400 You feel that rattle in your bones? 00:54.400 --> 00:56.580 When I tell you we just hacked out Jones 00:56.580 --> 00:58.700 At NASDAQ, leave your pride on your back 00:58.700 --> 01:01.000 Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack 01:01.000 --> 01:03.860 Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack 01:03.860 --> 01:06.880 This is dedicated to the hackers and the criminals 01:06.880 --> 01:11.780 Serial codes, source codes, ISOs, RANs, SIPs, SIS 01:11.780 --> 01:14.440 This is dedicated to the hackers and the crack 01:14.440 --> 01:16.880 Can you hear me now? 01:18.080 --> 01:18.560 No 01:18.560 --> 01:20.620 Can you hear me now? 01:21.740 --> 01:22.180 No 01:22.180 --> 01:24.400 Okay, well fine, then don't hear me then 01:24.400 --> 01:25.980 But our listeners can hear me 01:25.980 --> 01:29.160 As I introduce them to Binary Revolution Radio 01:29.160 --> 01:32.140 Episode number 8-0 01:32.140 --> 01:33.260 The Big 80 01:33.260 --> 01:36.860 Representing 80 episodes 01:36.860 --> 01:38.240 I am Stank Dog 01:38.240 --> 01:41.120 Today is January 25, 2005 01:41.120 --> 01:44.500 And my co-host who apparently cannot hear me 01:44.500 --> 01:45.660 Can you hear me now? 01:46.460 --> 01:46.900 No 01:46.900 --> 01:47.800 Damn 01:47.800 --> 01:51.640 Well, my co-host who can't hear me is Voodoo Hal 01:51.640 --> 01:54.880 So I guess we'll stumble through the show 01:54.880 --> 01:56.260 Even though you can't hear me 01:56.260 --> 01:58.260 Hopefully any minute now 01:58.260 --> 01:59.920 You'll kick in and start to be able to 01:59.920 --> 02:01.120 Can you hear me now though? 02:01.960 --> 02:02.980 This is a singular song 02:02.980 --> 02:04.120 I may never be able to hear you 02:04.120 --> 02:05.080 Oh good grief 02:05.080 --> 02:06.500 Yeah, we won't even go there 02:06.500 --> 02:08.560 Don't set me up with an easy 02:08.560 --> 02:09.540 Yeah, anyway 02:09.540 --> 02:11.620 We actually have 02:11.620 --> 02:12.340 I always start 02:12.340 --> 02:14.120 I always say this on every show 02:14.120 --> 02:16.180 But it ends up being true kind of 02:16.180 --> 02:18.540 We have a big announcement on the end of this show 02:18.540 --> 02:21.760 I've been hinting at it for a month or two now 02:21.760 --> 02:24.380 Started hinting at it before Christmas actually 02:24.380 --> 02:28.460 So there will be an announcement at the end of the show 02:28.460 --> 02:29.920 Pretty big announcement 02:29.920 --> 02:33.260 And about some changes we're going to be making 02:33.260 --> 02:37.420 So we'll give you details on that at the end of the show 02:37.420 --> 02:39.520 Can you hear me now? 02:40.480 --> 02:40.780 Yeah 02:40.780 --> 02:41.340 Okay 02:41.340 --> 02:44.420 Also, while we're doing a little housekeeping here 02:44.420 --> 02:47.440 Natus wants to let everybody know 02:47.440 --> 02:50.640 That he made some updates to OldSchoolFreak.com 02:50.640 --> 02:51.620 So go check those out 02:51.620 --> 02:54.280 He just made that update yesterday, Monday 02:54.280 --> 02:56.760 So go check out Old School Freak 02:56.760 --> 02:59.440 Sort of some good freaking goodness 02:59.440 --> 03:01.280 Good freaking goodness? 03:01.280 --> 03:03.480 That didn't sound right 03:03.480 --> 03:03.880 Hey, shut up 03:03.880 --> 03:04.640 You can't hear me 03:04.640 --> 03:05.300 Oh, wait a minute 03:05.300 --> 03:06.160 Can you hear me now? 03:06.980 --> 03:07.300 No 03:07.300 --> 03:07.940 Damn 03:07.940 --> 03:09.600 Alright, well 03:09.600 --> 03:10.920 I guess you can be quiet then 03:10.920 --> 03:13.100 While I play my theme music for the email 03:13.100 --> 03:13.520 Oh, actually 03:13.520 --> 03:14.700 Did you have anything for housekeeping 03:14.700 --> 03:15.780 Before we go into the email? 03:16.620 --> 03:17.360 Not at all 03:17.360 --> 03:17.820 No? 03:17.980 --> 03:18.120 Okay 03:18.120 --> 03:19.840 So let's play the email theme music 03:19.840 --> 03:42.440 And let's jump into some email 03:42.440 --> 03:44.080 We've got quite a few here 03:44.080 --> 03:46.000 Let's see 03:46.000 --> 03:46.920 Where should we start? 03:46.920 --> 03:47.640 Where should we start? 03:47.720 --> 03:48.680 Let's start with 03:48.680 --> 03:51.620 First email is from Mass Parallel 03:51.620 --> 03:53.660 Mass Parallel says 03:53.660 --> 03:54.140 Stank 03:54.140 --> 03:54.640 Dude 03:54.640 --> 03:55.920 More Ilanka 03:55.920 --> 03:56.740 Exclamation 03:56.740 --> 03:57.500 Exclamation 03:57.500 --> 03:57.900 One 03:57.900 --> 03:58.120 One 03:58.120 --> 03:58.440 Eleven 03:58.440 --> 03:59.100 Exclamation 03:59.100 --> 03:59.620 One 03:59.620 --> 04:00.460 Okay 04:00.460 --> 04:01.740 I over exaggerated that part 04:01.740 --> 04:03.580 She is wicked smart 04:03.580 --> 04:04.960 And the cryptography stuff 04:04.960 --> 04:05.940 Is super interesting 04:05.940 --> 04:07.860 I have always been interested in puzzles 04:07.860 --> 04:09.500 And how cryptography works 04:09.500 --> 04:12.100 So I found the episode very informative 04:12.100 --> 04:13.340 So I say again 04:13.340 --> 04:15.520 More Ilanka 04:15.520 --> 04:16.560 As usual 04:16.560 --> 04:17.420 Keep up the good work 04:17.420 --> 04:18.340 The show is great 04:18.340 --> 04:19.880 Yeah, Ilanka 04:19.880 --> 04:20.540 Again 04:20.540 --> 04:21.880 Such a nice person 04:21.880 --> 04:23.260 And very good on the show 04:23.260 --> 04:23.800 She was good 04:23.800 --> 04:25.100 She already has agreed 04:25.100 --> 04:26.000 We'll do some more 04:26.000 --> 04:27.500 We'll just kind of work out a schedule 04:27.500 --> 04:28.260 And get her on here 04:28.260 --> 04:29.240 More often actually 04:29.240 --> 04:30.620 Because again 04:30.620 --> 04:31.180 We have 04:31.180 --> 04:31.520 You know 04:31.520 --> 04:32.520 Everybody on the show 04:32.520 --> 04:34.060 It's not really so much a guest thing 04:34.060 --> 04:35.100 These are co-hosts 04:35.100 --> 04:37.900 People have more to say 04:37.900 --> 04:39.120 Than you know 04:39.120 --> 04:40.540 People think Ilanka 04:40.540 --> 04:42.880 Just the cryptography person 04:42.880 --> 04:43.220 You know 04:43.220 --> 04:44.780 There's a lot more to people's character 04:44.780 --> 04:46.120 Than being so one dimensional 04:46.120 --> 04:48.360 So she's definitely going to be on the show 04:48.360 --> 04:49.320 And we're going to talk about 04:49.320 --> 04:50.360 A lot of different topics 04:50.360 --> 04:52.400 So definitely stay tuned for that 04:52.400 --> 04:53.280 And 04:53.280 --> 04:54.340 I'm sorry 04:54.340 --> 04:56.580 Side note to that real quick 04:56.580 --> 04:58.460 If you guys are interested 04:58.460 --> 04:59.960 Check out the archives 04:59.960 --> 05:01.740 From Freak Nick 2003 05:01.740 --> 05:03.640 She did a great talk 05:03.640 --> 05:05.040 On 05:05.040 --> 05:06.320 Oh damn 05:06.320 --> 05:07.120 One of those sculptures 05:07.120 --> 05:08.380 I've forgotten the name 05:08.380 --> 05:09.800 The Cyrillic Projector 05:09.800 --> 05:11.000 Yeah 05:11.000 --> 05:11.780 Or Cryptos 05:11.780 --> 05:13.080 Yeah 05:13.080 --> 05:13.600 Yeah 05:13.600 --> 05:14.020 She's 05:14.020 --> 05:15.320 She mentioned both of them 05:15.320 --> 05:16.060 Briefly on the show 05:16.060 --> 05:17.080 We're probably going to more detail 05:17.080 --> 05:18.260 On some of those in the future 05:18.260 --> 05:19.200 But of course 05:19.200 --> 05:20.080 You can go to her site 05:20.080 --> 05:21.760 Again it's Ilanka.com 05:21.760 --> 05:23.140 I absolutely love to 05:23.140 --> 05:24.100 Pimp out that site 05:24.100 --> 05:25.380 She's got a lot of cool information 05:25.380 --> 05:26.460 About all of her projects 05:26.460 --> 05:28.080 And her presentation 05:28.080 --> 05:28.700 From 05:28.700 --> 05:29.680 From DEFCON 05:29.680 --> 05:30.080 Et cetera 05:30.080 --> 05:30.340 Et cetera 05:30.340 --> 05:31.340 Is all available there 05:31.340 --> 05:32.500 So 05:32.500 --> 05:33.260 And 05:33.260 --> 05:34.400 She was in Wired Magazine 05:34.400 --> 05:34.840 This week 05:34.840 --> 05:35.360 So hey 05:35.360 --> 05:37.400 Congratulations to Ilanka 05:37.400 --> 05:38.000 There was an article 05:38.000 --> 05:39.540 Like several pages 05:39.540 --> 05:40.380 There's a pretty good article 05:40.380 --> 05:40.920 From what I 05:40.920 --> 05:42.560 I gave it the once over 05:42.560 --> 05:43.100 I need to go back 05:43.100 --> 05:43.700 And read it thoroughly 05:43.700 --> 05:45.160 But I did read it once 05:45.160 --> 05:46.520 And it looked pretty good 05:46.520 --> 05:47.340 It looked pretty interesting 05:47.340 --> 05:49.660 About the Cryptos project 05:49.660 --> 05:51.020 Really is what the article was 05:51.020 --> 05:52.060 But it mentioned of course 05:52.060 --> 05:52.460 Ilanka 05:52.460 --> 05:54.100 Quite a 05:54.100 --> 05:54.700 Quite a bit 05:54.700 --> 05:56.660 So anyway 05:56.660 --> 05:57.020 Yes 05:57.020 --> 05:58.000 So not only 05:58.000 --> 05:59.260 Ilanka having her back on 05:59.260 --> 05:59.540 Is great 05:59.540 --> 06:00.720 But he mentioned 06:00.720 --> 06:01.640 That the cryptography 06:01.640 --> 06:03.120 Cryptography stuff 06:03.120 --> 06:04.000 Is super interesting 06:04.000 --> 06:04.920 Well 06:04.920 --> 06:06.200 I hope you also 06:06.200 --> 06:07.140 Heard that follow up 06:07.140 --> 06:08.280 The very next episode 06:08.280 --> 06:09.600 We had Decius on 06:09.600 --> 06:11.180 Who also knows 06:11.180 --> 06:11.820 I mean he taught me 06:11.820 --> 06:13.100 A lot about cryptography 06:13.100 --> 06:13.600 As well 06:13.600 --> 06:14.480 Most of it 06:14.480 --> 06:14.800 As it 06:14.800 --> 06:16.660 As it relates to 06:16.660 --> 06:17.580 File encryption 06:17.580 --> 06:18.200 And data 06:18.200 --> 06:18.860 And stuff like that 06:18.860 --> 06:20.000 Computer applications 06:20.000 --> 06:21.320 Of cryptography 06:21.320 --> 06:23.000 So Ilanka 06:23.000 --> 06:24.840 Showed us a lot of stuff 06:24.840 --> 06:25.180 Taught 06:25.180 --> 06:26.040 Hopefully taught us 06:26.040 --> 06:27.240 I know she taught me a lot 06:27.240 --> 06:28.900 And then Decius came in 06:28.900 --> 06:29.480 And followed up 06:29.480 --> 06:30.280 With an application 06:30.280 --> 06:31.020 Of this is how 06:31.020 --> 06:32.120 You can use it in computers 06:32.120 --> 06:33.080 And how they work 06:33.080 --> 06:33.740 And what it means 06:33.740 --> 06:34.180 And some 06:34.180 --> 06:35.380 Some more terminology 06:35.380 --> 06:36.380 So hopefully 06:36.380 --> 06:37.540 They're building on each other 06:37.540 --> 06:38.580 So if you like that one 06:38.580 --> 06:40.240 Hopefully you also like Decius 06:40.240 --> 06:41.220 He had a lot of great stuff 06:41.220 --> 06:41.920 To say as well 06:41.920 --> 06:42.360 So 06:42.360 --> 06:43.940 If you haven't listened to that yet 06:43.940 --> 06:44.900 Go back and grab that 06:44.900 --> 06:46.280 That episode as well 06:46.280 --> 06:47.540 And 06:47.540 --> 06:48.120 Stay tuned 06:48.120 --> 06:48.960 Because we got 06:48.960 --> 06:49.740 Lots of 06:49.740 --> 06:50.400 Cool guests 06:50.400 --> 06:51.180 Coming up in the future 06:51.180 --> 06:52.180 We try to keep bringing 06:52.180 --> 06:53.620 Lots of people in here 06:53.620 --> 06:54.380 And mix it up 06:54.380 --> 06:55.700 There's another hint 06:55.700 --> 06:57.620 Mix it up a lot around here 06:57.620 --> 06:58.400 So that we 06:58.400 --> 06:59.380 Keep the content 06:59.380 --> 07:00.320 And the topics fresh 07:00.320 --> 07:00.860 I know 07:00.860 --> 07:02.700 There's a lot of shows 07:02.700 --> 07:03.120 Out there 07:03.120 --> 07:04.000 That'll go through 07:04.000 --> 07:04.720 News items 07:04.720 --> 07:05.580 And things like that 07:05.580 --> 07:05.820 But 07:05.820 --> 07:07.340 We try to come topical 07:07.340 --> 07:08.400 We try to spend an episode 07:08.400 --> 07:08.940 And do some 07:08.940 --> 07:09.980 In-depth analysis 07:09.980 --> 07:10.640 And discussion 07:10.640 --> 07:11.200 On a 07:11.200 --> 07:12.620 Topic or two 07:12.620 --> 07:13.720 Some of them 07:13.720 --> 07:14.700 May actually be based 07:14.700 --> 07:15.580 On something in the news 07:15.580 --> 07:15.900 Or something 07:15.900 --> 07:16.740 But we like to do more 07:16.740 --> 07:17.280 Analysis 07:17.280 --> 07:18.300 And less reading 07:18.300 --> 07:19.340 So 07:19.340 --> 07:20.620 Mixing a lot of guests 07:20.620 --> 07:21.280 Who have a lot of 07:21.280 --> 07:21.920 Different opinions 07:21.920 --> 07:22.620 And ideas 07:22.620 --> 07:23.880 To me 07:23.880 --> 07:24.780 I think it makes 07:24.780 --> 07:25.460 For a good show 07:25.460 --> 07:25.800 But 07:25.800 --> 07:27.280 What do I know 07:27.280 --> 07:29.680 Hey can you hear me now 07:29.680 --> 07:30.820 No 07:30.820 --> 07:31.720 Oh okay 07:31.720 --> 07:34.260 Okay let's see 07:34.260 --> 07:35.040 Second email 07:35.040 --> 07:35.800 Comes from 07:35.800 --> 07:37.100 OOB 07:37.100 --> 07:38.380 Which 07:38.380 --> 07:39.040 What do we do 07:39.040 --> 07:39.800 That stands for 07:39.800 --> 07:41.300 Over our breast 07:41.300 --> 07:41.960 Is that 07:41.960 --> 07:41.980 Is that 07:41.980 --> 07:43.840 Yeah 07:43.840 --> 07:44.340 Is that 07:44.340 --> 07:44.560 No 07:44.560 --> 07:45.360 Is out of bounds 07:45.360 --> 07:46.220 I think he said 07:46.220 --> 07:46.820 I think frankly 07:46.820 --> 07:47.680 He said he didn't care 07:47.680 --> 07:48.060 It was just 07:48.060 --> 07:48.620 OOB 07:48.620 --> 07:49.220 It was fine 07:49.220 --> 07:51.220 Just three arbitrary 07:51.220 --> 07:51.660 Well 07:51.660 --> 07:52.740 Two arbitrary letters 07:52.740 --> 07:55.200 And a third arbitrary letter 07:55.200 --> 07:55.480 Yeah 07:55.480 --> 07:57.100 Two vowels 07:57.100 --> 07:57.680 And a consonant 07:57.680 --> 07:59.840 That's kind of 07:59.840 --> 08:02.600 There are only two letters there 08:02.600 --> 08:03.440 That is true 08:03.440 --> 08:05.760 We can make 08:05.760 --> 08:06.220 Let's see 08:06.220 --> 08:06.640 We can make 08:06.640 --> 08:07.760 Boo and oboe 08:07.760 --> 08:08.100 Actually 08:08.100 --> 08:09.320 Those three letters 08:09.320 --> 08:09.920 You can make 08:09.920 --> 08:11.300 You can rearrange them 08:11.300 --> 08:12.000 In any order 08:12.000 --> 08:12.820 And it's a word 08:12.820 --> 08:14.480 No I mean 08:14.480 --> 08:15.040 I think oboe 08:15.040 --> 08:15.660 Is oboe 08:15.660 --> 08:17.200 O-B-O-E though 08:17.200 --> 08:18.300 Get it 08:18.300 --> 08:19.160 Ah crap 08:19.160 --> 08:19.580 Alright 08:19.580 --> 08:20.120 Well it was almost 08:20.120 --> 08:20.740 A cool idea 08:20.740 --> 08:21.920 Anyway 08:21.920 --> 08:22.560 This guy's 08:22.560 --> 08:23.260 Gotta be tired 08:23.260 --> 08:23.900 Of us picking on 08:23.900 --> 08:24.620 His name by now 08:24.620 --> 08:25.440 We're not picking on it 08:25.440 --> 08:26.360 But playing with his name 08:26.360 --> 08:27.460 Uh 08:27.460 --> 08:28.340 OOB says 08:28.340 --> 08:28.980 Hey stank 08:28.980 --> 08:29.440 As usual 08:29.440 --> 08:30.080 Love your show 08:30.080 --> 08:30.620 And yeah 08:30.620 --> 08:31.400 In my opinion 08:31.400 --> 08:32.160 When I compare it 08:32.160 --> 08:33.100 To the first episodes 08:33.100 --> 08:34.080 Your current shows 08:34.080 --> 08:35.220 Are loads better 08:35.220 --> 08:36.600 I love the episode 08:36.600 --> 08:37.340 With Alanka 08:37.340 --> 08:38.120 You should get her 08:38.120 --> 08:39.420 Back some time 08:39.420 --> 08:40.200 Yes 08:40.200 --> 08:41.280 See above 08:41.280 --> 08:42.520 Anyway 08:42.520 --> 08:44.000 I frequent Google News 08:44.000 --> 08:44.740 Quite often 08:44.740 --> 08:46.080 Because it just amazes me 08:46.080 --> 08:46.920 How up to date 08:46.920 --> 08:47.920 And great it is 08:47.920 --> 08:49.200 Especially when you 08:49.200 --> 08:50.020 Consider that it is 08:50.020 --> 08:51.700 Compiled by a computer 08:51.700 --> 08:53.120 But I have noticed 08:53.120 --> 08:54.340 Something that bothers me 08:54.340 --> 08:55.040 The fact that 08:55.040 --> 08:56.080 Almost every site 08:56.080 --> 08:56.600 That is linked 08:56.600 --> 08:57.480 To Google News 08:57.480 --> 08:59.340 Contains advertising 08:59.340 --> 09:00.480 Powered by Google 09:00.480 --> 09:03.000 So I'm forced to ask 09:03.000 --> 09:04.140 Is Google News 09:04.140 --> 09:04.980 Hitting sites 09:04.980 --> 09:05.980 That contain 09:05.980 --> 09:06.780 The advertising 09:06.780 --> 09:08.280 Is some form 09:08.280 --> 09:09.020 Of payback 09:09.020 --> 09:09.600 To the sites 09:09.600 --> 09:10.140 In question 09:10.140 --> 09:11.260 And if so 09:11.260 --> 09:12.080 Doesn't that make 09:12.080 --> 09:13.120 The news reported 09:13.120 --> 09:14.900 Slightly lopsided 09:14.900 --> 09:17.360 Well 09:17.360 --> 09:18.520 What do you think 09:18.520 --> 09:19.400 You take this one 09:19.400 --> 09:19.980 What do you think 09:19.980 --> 09:23.980 If Google News 09:23.980 --> 09:24.900 Is only pulling 09:24.900 --> 09:25.620 From sources 09:25.620 --> 09:27.520 That advertise 09:27.520 --> 09:28.280 With Google 09:28.280 --> 09:32.520 It sounds like 09:32.520 --> 09:33.440 That could be biased 09:33.440 --> 09:34.420 That could be skewed 09:34.420 --> 09:35.980 Well 09:35.980 --> 09:36.880 Most search engines 09:36.880 --> 09:37.560 Really are 09:37.560 --> 09:39.260 Yeah 09:39.260 --> 09:40.880 But do you think 09:40.880 --> 09:41.740 At this point 09:41.740 --> 09:43.760 There is a point 09:43.760 --> 09:43.920 There 09:43.920 --> 09:44.380 It is a good 09:44.380 --> 09:45.580 It is a good thing 09:45.580 --> 09:46.240 To think about 09:46.240 --> 09:47.080 But at this point 09:47.080 --> 09:48.520 Google being as large 09:48.520 --> 09:49.240 As they are 09:49.240 --> 09:51.520 I hate to say it 09:51.520 --> 09:52.820 But is there any site 09:52.820 --> 09:53.940 That doesn't have 09:53.940 --> 09:54.680 Google ads 09:54.680 --> 09:55.540 On it these days 09:55.540 --> 09:58.420 BinRev 09:58.420 --> 09:58.920 Doesn't 09:58.920 --> 09:59.880 Well that's right 09:59.880 --> 10:00.340 We don't have 10:00.340 --> 10:01.240 Ads from anybody 10:01.240 --> 10:02.160 And I'm going 10:02.160 --> 10:02.740 To try to keep 10:02.740 --> 10:03.260 It that way 10:03.260 --> 10:05.000 I will put 10:05.000 --> 10:05.680 Ads on there 10:05.680 --> 10:06.120 If it's somebody 10:06.120 --> 10:06.740 I support 10:06.740 --> 10:07.980 Like other sites 10:07.980 --> 10:09.160 That we support 10:09.160 --> 10:09.720 Like here 10:09.720 --> 10:10.460 Here I'll give you 10:10.460 --> 10:10.800 A pimp 10:10.800 --> 10:11.120 How about 10:11.120 --> 10:12.180 Homeless hardware 10:12.180 --> 10:13.640 I'll put 10:13.640 --> 10:14.920 I'll put links 10:14.920 --> 10:15.640 Up to sites 10:15.640 --> 10:16.320 That I support 10:16.320 --> 10:16.760 That I think 10:16.760 --> 10:17.480 Are good ideas 10:17.480 --> 10:19.160 And stuff like that 10:19.160 --> 10:21.500 Hosting 10:21.500 --> 10:24.000 Good deals 10:24.000 --> 10:24.480 Others 10:24.480 --> 10:24.960 You know 10:24.960 --> 10:25.240 Whatever 10:25.240 --> 10:25.980 I'm not 10:25.980 --> 10:26.980 I'm not putting 10:26.980 --> 10:27.800 Up banner ads 10:27.800 --> 10:28.320 Or turning it 10:28.320 --> 10:28.900 Into commercials 10:28.900 --> 10:29.320 Or anything 10:29.320 --> 10:30.460 But I put up 10:30.460 --> 10:31.660 Links to sites 10:31.660 --> 10:32.660 That I want to support 10:32.660 --> 10:33.880 Even if it is 10:33.880 --> 10:34.900 Like buying something 10:34.900 --> 10:36.380 Or something 10:36.380 --> 10:36.740 That's 10:36.740 --> 10:37.260 If I think 10:37.260 --> 10:37.740 It's of interest 10:37.740 --> 10:38.520 To the hacker community 10:38.520 --> 10:39.420 I'm all over it 10:39.420 --> 10:40.620 But yeah 10:40.620 --> 10:41.560 No Google ads 10:41.560 --> 10:43.160 Don't need them 10:43.160 --> 10:45.000 If anybody 10:45.000 --> 10:45.660 That doesn't know 10:45.660 --> 10:46.160 About Google 10:46.160 --> 10:46.600 By now 10:46.600 --> 10:47.020 What good 10:47.020 --> 10:47.700 Are putting ads 10:47.700 --> 10:48.360 On my page 10:48.360 --> 10:49.540 Going to do 10:49.540 --> 10:52.040 We do have 10:52.040 --> 10:52.360 A Google 10:52.360 --> 10:53.260 Flavored search 10:53.260 --> 10:54.140 In the tool 10:54.140 --> 10:54.980 And under the 10:54.980 --> 10:55.740 Projects 10:55.740 --> 10:56.780 There's a link 10:56.780 --> 10:57.480 That says tools 10:57.480 --> 10:57.840 And we have 10:57.840 --> 10:58.180 A Google 10:58.180 --> 10:58.960 Flavored search 10:58.960 --> 10:59.280 On there 10:59.280 --> 10:59.540 If you want 10:59.540 --> 10:59.940 To play around 10:59.940 --> 11:00.320 With that 11:00.320 --> 11:01.020 I put that up 11:01.020 --> 11:01.520 A couple weeks 11:01.520 --> 11:01.940 Ago in the 11:01.940 --> 11:02.540 Tools section 11:02.540 --> 11:07.340 But point being 11:07.340 --> 11:08.580 The question at hand 11:08.580 --> 11:09.340 Is does it make 11:09.340 --> 11:09.940 The reporting 11:09.940 --> 11:10.680 Lopsided 11:10.680 --> 11:11.240 To have 11:11.240 --> 11:11.600 Sites 11:11.600 --> 11:11.960 That only 11:11.960 --> 11:12.420 Have Google 11:12.420 --> 11:12.740 On it 11:12.740 --> 11:13.120 I just 11:13.120 --> 11:14.220 One hand 11:14.220 --> 11:14.520 I say 11:14.520 --> 11:15.240 Yeah absolutely 11:15.240 --> 11:15.840 But on the 11:15.840 --> 11:16.240 Other it's 11:16.240 --> 11:16.680 Just one of 11:16.680 --> 11:16.960 Those 11:16.960 --> 11:18.820 They probably 11:18.820 --> 11:19.200 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16:06.020 I 16:06.020 --> 16:06.140 Here 16:06.140 --> 16:06.240 Let 16:06.240 --> 16:06.840 We 16:06.840 --> 16:20.520 Let's 16:20.520 --> 16:27.080 I 16:27.080 --> 16:27.560 I 16:27.560 --> 16:29.500 So go check that out if you're interested. 16:30.760 --> 16:35.520 And, yeah, just give back however you can to the community. 16:35.880 --> 16:37.320 I don't care that it's amateurish. 16:37.360 --> 16:38.300 We're amateurish. 16:38.740 --> 16:39.340 You know what? 16:39.400 --> 16:40.540 We're not making money on this. 16:40.600 --> 16:41.120 We're all amateurs. 16:41.240 --> 16:42.320 We're doing this for fun. 16:42.660 --> 16:45.660 We're doing this for betterment of the community to get information out there, 16:45.660 --> 16:50.060 to try to make opinions heard, try to get people information in a new and different way. 16:50.540 --> 16:51.220 So give back. 16:51.300 --> 16:51.880 That's all it is. 16:51.960 --> 16:56.500 Don't worry about whether it's amateur or whether the first part of your show didn't record properly. 16:56.500 --> 16:58.460 You'll get the hang of that as you go along. 16:59.060 --> 17:00.600 So shouts to Finland. 17:01.120 --> 17:01.960 Give it a shot. 17:02.120 --> 17:02.700 You'll get better. 17:02.780 --> 17:03.580 We have, I hope. 17:04.460 --> 17:06.040 And keep contributing. 17:06.160 --> 17:06.880 Keep giving back. 17:07.140 --> 17:09.200 So, again, 2600.fi. 17:09.300 --> 17:10.080 I'll pimp the site for you. 17:10.100 --> 17:10.700 Go check them out. 17:10.700 --> 17:14.000 The site, the show is available for download right there. 17:16.480 --> 17:17.420 Let's see here. 17:17.480 --> 17:18.420 Do you speak Finnish? 17:19.520 --> 17:19.820 No. 17:20.180 --> 17:21.240 I barely speak English. 17:21.480 --> 17:23.800 Is there such a thing as Finnish or is it Dutch? 17:24.860 --> 17:25.900 I don't know. 17:25.900 --> 17:26.960 Or Nordic. 17:27.980 --> 17:29.500 I'm a fast programmer person. 17:29.660 --> 17:30.220 Come on now. 17:30.280 --> 17:32.180 Yeah, I was going to say, I'm just showing my ignorance here. 17:32.240 --> 17:33.400 I don't even know why I should even. 17:33.840 --> 17:34.260 Oh, well. 17:34.440 --> 17:35.340 Somebody will correct me. 17:36.420 --> 17:38.660 So, anyway, thank you, Right Rabbit, for the email. 17:39.380 --> 17:44.100 Another email this week I got from Ed, who says, 17:44.260 --> 17:45.520 Greetings, stank dog. 17:45.640 --> 17:45.880 How do you pronounce that one? 17:46.260 --> 17:46.680 I'm sorry? 17:47.360 --> 17:48.840 How should we pronounce that one? 17:49.920 --> 17:51.440 I'm just going to call him Ed. 17:51.640 --> 17:52.260 What do you think? 17:52.300 --> 17:52.820 It's E-D? 17:52.820 --> 17:55.140 I don't know. 17:55.460 --> 17:55.800 E-D? 17:57.140 --> 17:58.760 Do we call him erectile dysfunction? 18:01.000 --> 18:02.220 Oh, you're killing me. 18:02.740 --> 18:03.440 Oh, come on. 18:03.460 --> 18:04.420 You snuck that in on me. 18:04.440 --> 18:05.420 Now I'm laughing on the air. 18:06.120 --> 18:06.740 All right. 18:06.860 --> 18:07.740 Erectile dysfunction. 18:08.200 --> 18:09.720 No, we can't make fun of the listeners. 18:11.320 --> 18:12.240 It's Ed. 18:12.840 --> 18:13.680 It's Ed. 18:14.100 --> 18:14.540 Respect. 18:15.280 --> 18:17.820 Greetings, stank dog, and the whole BR crew. 18:17.820 --> 18:22.460 New time listener here from the United Kingdom. 18:23.020 --> 18:27.760 Not sure how many listeners you have from the UK, but I thought, well, one less now thanks 18:27.760 --> 18:31.660 to Voodoo Hal, but I thought I would let you know. 18:31.960 --> 18:35.220 Always nice to know where your listeners are from, I feel. 18:35.900 --> 18:38.780 Yeah, I agree, and we do have some listeners in the UK, actually. 18:39.180 --> 18:41.380 So, anyway, love the show. 18:41.560 --> 18:42.480 Fantastic content. 18:42.480 --> 18:47.800 Just started to listen to all the shows after downloading them all through iPodder, which 18:47.800 --> 18:52.600 is how I came across your show in the first place through the recent explosion of podcasting. 18:53.980 --> 18:58.800 I watched your first episode of Hack TV when it was released, but never really knew you 18:58.800 --> 19:00.040 had a radio show. 19:01.880 --> 19:04.040 Okay, let me stop right here at this part of the email. 19:04.040 --> 19:10.940 Well, um, the, okay, you didn't get all of the shows from iPodder because they're not 19:10.940 --> 19:12.400 all on our iPod feed. 19:12.520 --> 19:16.780 You may have come to the site and then subsequently downloaded them, which is, I assume, what he 19:16.780 --> 19:17.620 probably meant to say. 19:18.420 --> 19:20.920 Um, so, that's cool. 19:21.000 --> 19:27.280 I think we have decided on sending the last eight episodes on the podcast, so, you should 19:27.280 --> 19:31.240 always have the newest eight episodes, and anybody who's listening and you want to 19:31.240 --> 19:35.020 go listen to more, you've heard these last eight of the most recent ones, you can go 19:35.020 --> 19:40.220 to radio.binrev.com and download the previous season and the previous part of this season 19:40.220 --> 19:41.400 too that we're in right now. 19:42.600 --> 19:46.700 Um, so, check that out. 19:47.060 --> 19:55.220 Uh, a lot of, and yeah, he makes another good point that a lot of people either saw Hack TV 19:55.220 --> 19:59.900 from one of the links or news stories about it that didn't give a link back to our site 19:59.900 --> 20:04.560 or something like that, and don't realize that we have a radio show, or vice versa. 20:04.700 --> 20:08.320 A lot of people don't realize that we, or listen to the radio show and don't realize that we 20:08.320 --> 20:09.160 have the TV show. 20:09.800 --> 20:12.580 TV show singular, but hopefully plural soon. 20:12.660 --> 20:14.600 A new episode will be out soon, hopefully. 20:15.420 --> 20:21.280 So, uh, we probably got it, we probably should do better about mentioning it more often on the 20:21.280 --> 20:22.560 shows. 20:22.560 --> 20:24.000 I guess. 20:24.800 --> 20:25.660 Can you hear me now? 20:26.860 --> 20:27.140 Yeah. 20:27.480 --> 20:27.760 Okay. 20:28.520 --> 20:33.060 Uh, anyway, let's see, the second part of this email, this is kind of a cool story here. 20:33.460 --> 20:39.180 I'll be going on a snowboarding trip for a week in France this Friday, and I'm going to play 20:39.180 --> 20:43.960 catch up on your shows by uploading them to my iPod so that I can listen to them while 20:43.960 --> 20:45.040 on the mountains. 20:45.780 --> 20:50.920 Though I would add this to my email, thought I would add this to my email as you would find 20:50.920 --> 20:51.320 that cool. 20:51.700 --> 20:55.180 Reading this email in your show would be fine with me, and would also be pretty awesome, 20:55.920 --> 21:00.380 simply due to the fact that it would be very surreal if I was listening to the show on my 21:00.380 --> 21:04.880 iPod while being on the mountain, which is also the highest point in Europe. 21:05.000 --> 21:06.060 Now that would be crazy. 21:07.180 --> 21:11.280 Uh, anyway, I'm blabbering, I have a tendency to do that, so I'll leave it here for now, saying 21:11.280 --> 21:16.120 big praise to the DDP crew for all their time and effort within creating awesome content, 21:16.400 --> 21:18.620 the radio show, and vidcasts. 21:18.920 --> 21:24.160 I'll now be hovering around the forums, contributing content, so for now, keep up the good work. 21:24.960 --> 21:25.740 And again, that's... 21:25.740 --> 21:26.740 Well, I have a good question now, though. 21:26.920 --> 21:27.260 Okay. 21:27.280 --> 21:29.020 Everyone listen, but I'm going to look it up in a moment. 21:29.740 --> 21:35.120 What is the, uh, max lowest temperature a, uh, a hard drive can sustain without having 21:35.120 --> 21:35.500 errors? 21:36.600 --> 21:37.000 Hmm. 21:37.000 --> 21:38.880 Well, it's just... 21:38.880 --> 21:41.580 He might think our radio shows up, but he may not come back down with us. 21:42.060 --> 21:42.380 Exactly. 21:42.380 --> 21:46.440 If he keeps it close to his body inside of his jacket or something like that, though, that'll 21:46.440 --> 21:47.240 be a factor. 21:48.180 --> 21:49.540 Plus, it's flash, it's... 21:49.540 --> 21:50.760 Well, I don't know. 21:51.840 --> 21:52.600 I don't know. 21:52.680 --> 21:53.800 That's an interesting question. 21:54.980 --> 21:58.740 Surely somebody's run into that before. 21:58.860 --> 21:59.620 I mean, people... 21:59.620 --> 22:04.000 I'm sure people must be skiing and snowboarding and stuff with these things, so it'll probably 22:04.000 --> 22:04.700 be fine. 22:04.700 --> 22:07.080 It'll probably be fine. 22:07.160 --> 22:08.360 And if it doesn't, you can stick it in the... 22:08.360 --> 22:08.600 Wait a minute. 22:08.780 --> 22:11.120 Yeah, you stick it in the freezer to save a hard drive. 22:11.180 --> 22:11.620 Wait a minute. 22:13.120 --> 22:16.400 So if it freezes up on the mountain, what, is he going to come home and stick it in the 22:16.400 --> 22:17.760 freezer to try to save it? 22:19.860 --> 22:20.580 I just... 22:20.580 --> 22:23.960 Why have you been trying to stick a hard drive in a freezer to save it, first of all? 22:24.100 --> 22:24.580 I don't know. 22:24.640 --> 22:25.800 That's the old myth, isn't it? 22:25.800 --> 22:30.320 That if your hard drive dies, you put it in the freezer to, I don't know, freeze the data? 22:30.440 --> 22:30.780 I don't know. 22:30.820 --> 22:32.960 There's some myth that it freezes the platters or something. 22:32.960 --> 22:34.380 What I think is a programmer. 22:34.840 --> 22:36.520 Yeah, and you know what, see, and this is the thing. 22:36.580 --> 22:37.280 It's like every... 22:37.280 --> 22:38.220 This always comes up. 22:38.260 --> 22:42.360 It's in our forums occasionally, and I always say, listen, I don't think that works. 22:42.800 --> 22:45.120 I've tried it just because, you know what? 22:45.120 --> 22:47.380 When you're desperate to recover your data, you'll try anything. 22:47.380 --> 22:49.420 I've never gotten it to work. 22:50.260 --> 22:53.720 I think it's a myth, and I've said that on the show before, and I got emailed from people. 22:53.960 --> 22:54.800 It's an urban legend. 22:54.900 --> 22:56.780 They swear that, oh, no, well, I... 22:56.780 --> 23:00.040 My friend's boyfriend's uncle's cousin, it worked for him. 23:01.720 --> 23:03.000 It's never worked for me. 23:03.080 --> 23:05.320 So until it works for me, I don't believe a word of it. 23:05.880 --> 23:08.640 And drop it in a big pot of water before you put it in the freezer. 23:08.760 --> 23:10.820 That way you know when it freezes, you're safe. 23:10.820 --> 23:13.480 Yeah, yeah, sure. 23:14.320 --> 23:16.080 But don't hold me responsible. 23:16.560 --> 23:21.300 The comments and opinions of Voodoo Hal are his and his alone. 23:23.320 --> 23:28.400 I'm not buying anybody a new hard drive because you told them to drop it in a bucket of water on a mountain and freeze it. 23:29.960 --> 23:33.120 Oh, mercy. 23:34.180 --> 23:35.820 All right, so let's see. 23:36.240 --> 23:38.420 Oh, yeah, so hang out at the forums. 23:38.420 --> 23:46.680 Again, a lot of people don't know all of the things that we have at, well, I guess, in DDP, and particularly BinRev.com. 23:46.740 --> 23:47.520 We have forums. 23:47.640 --> 23:48.440 We have a gallery. 23:49.220 --> 23:50.400 We have the radio show. 23:50.460 --> 23:51.340 We have the TV show. 23:51.400 --> 23:52.100 We have tools. 23:52.220 --> 24:04.680 We have just tons of stuff, you know, for all your hacking needs and links to all of our other sites and projects like DocDroppers and other upcoming things, Old School Freak, et cetera, et cetera. 24:05.180 --> 24:06.580 Got a lot of stuff going on. 24:06.580 --> 24:09.700 So please come to BinRev.com and check it out. 24:09.780 --> 24:12.920 And not only stuff from us, but links to other sites as well. 24:12.980 --> 24:13.600 Go through the forums. 24:13.700 --> 24:16.340 A lot of people have cool sites and cool things they've got up there. 24:16.340 --> 24:21.220 So by all means, check out BinRev.com. 24:22.820 --> 24:25.240 Okay, so I guess that's enough pimping of the site. 24:26.220 --> 24:27.360 You could never have too much. 24:28.440 --> 24:30.420 Oh, no, I know what I was going to say. 24:30.540 --> 24:34.300 I was going to tell this guy to leave a geocache. 24:34.300 --> 24:39.580 If he's going on the highest mountain in Europe, take a geocache up there with you. 24:39.640 --> 24:40.480 Take a box. 24:41.260 --> 24:42.340 Put some stuff in it. 24:42.460 --> 24:45.380 If you don't know what geocaching is, Droops can tell you all about it. 24:45.400 --> 24:48.300 But go to geocaching.com, I think it is. 24:48.360 --> 24:49.080 It might be .org. 24:49.080 --> 24:54.960 I think it's geocaching.com, see what geocaching is, and plant one on the top of this mountain 24:54.960 --> 24:58.680 and see who, if anybody, ever goes up there. 24:59.240 --> 25:03.580 Put in some CDs of Binary Revolution Radio or something. 25:03.740 --> 25:07.280 Put a geocache on top of the mountain in the name of DDP. 25:08.280 --> 25:10.680 He might be planting his frozen iPod up there. 25:10.880 --> 25:11.120 Yeah. 25:11.420 --> 25:14.360 If your iPod stops working, put that in there as a souvenir. 25:14.360 --> 25:19.400 Somebody will probably bring it home and put it in their freezer and get it working, 25:19.540 --> 25:20.280 and then he'd be pissed. 25:21.800 --> 25:22.860 All right, anyway. 25:24.880 --> 25:25.560 Let's see. 25:25.660 --> 25:26.980 Let's do one more email this week. 25:27.040 --> 25:28.700 One more from Insomnia. 25:30.160 --> 25:30.960 Insomnia says, 25:31.060 --> 25:38.180 Stankdog, listen to your stream for the first time two days ago after hearing about it on Off the Hook, 25:38.300 --> 25:41.300 Off the Wall, and have really liked it so far. 25:41.300 --> 25:45.400 Now, I usually have it running in the background when I'm screwing around on my computer. 25:46.080 --> 25:50.340 You were talking in-depth about newsgroups and just wanted to say that I use them daily 25:50.340 --> 25:53.360 and will continue to do so as long as they are around. 25:53.660 --> 25:57.120 If you haven't tried it, I suggest a program called Xnews. 25:57.400 --> 26:01.420 You can get that off download.com, but I also, you just Google for it. 26:01.440 --> 26:02.780 You'll find it plenty of places. 26:03.700 --> 26:09.780 It's perfectly free and is perfect for snagging files off of news, newsgroups or Usenet. 26:10.360 --> 26:11.240 That's what he means. 26:11.520 --> 26:12.880 Keep up the good work, man. 26:13.800 --> 26:15.780 All right, Insomnia, thank you for the email. 26:16.300 --> 26:19.780 There are a lot of newsreaders out there. 26:20.340 --> 26:21.440 A lot of them. 26:23.020 --> 26:24.460 Xnews, obviously you mentioned. 26:24.860 --> 26:26.920 Newsbin, Agent. 26:27.880 --> 26:29.480 They're actually pretty common. 26:29.480 --> 26:32.900 And some of them you pay for, but you know what? 26:32.960 --> 26:35.460 Cracks are very common for these products as well. 26:35.960 --> 26:39.440 A lot of people use these. 26:39.860 --> 26:41.500 Well, let me back up a little bit. 26:41.500 --> 26:50.480 When we talked about Usenet, we mentioned how Usenet is very, very similar to mail, to email. 26:50.760 --> 26:54.400 Very similar, almost the same protocol, same formatting, etc., etc. 26:55.120 --> 26:58.760 And especially the way they both treat attachments and the way it converts it. 26:58.760 --> 27:00.620 Now, I'm not going to go into that all over again. 27:00.700 --> 27:06.460 You can go back and listen to that episode, which was two or three, four episodes ago, something like that. 27:06.460 --> 27:21.920 Well, what these programs do, Newsbin, Xnews, etc., is go out there and mass download every post from all of the news groups that you tell it, that you subscribe to, that you tell it you are interested in. 27:22.620 --> 27:24.540 So, it'll parse through all of these messages. 27:24.700 --> 27:28.980 It'll grab every single post from the news group at whatever bandwidth you give it. 27:29.000 --> 27:31.320 If you've got a DSL, something like that, you can turn it loose. 27:31.820 --> 27:32.920 It'll go through the message. 27:33.040 --> 27:36.200 It'll look to see if there's a file encoded. 27:36.200 --> 27:44.540 And we talked, again, I don't want to rehash too much, but the files get encoded, and you can see the header that says that there's an attachment in there. 27:44.800 --> 27:50.200 This thing just parses through them, looks for that header and footer record to tell where the attachment ends and begins, 27:50.200 --> 27:52.320 and pretty much ignores the rest. 27:53.000 --> 28:01.660 So, it goes through there and basically grabs all of the attachments, if you want to think of it like that, all of the binaries, and downloads them for you automatically. 28:01.920 --> 28:04.480 So, here's the quick version. 28:04.620 --> 28:05.220 Install it. 28:05.740 --> 28:09.280 Go subscribe to alt.binaries.erotica.star. 28:10.920 --> 28:11.760 Turn it on. 28:12.160 --> 28:12.800 Go to sleep. 28:13.140 --> 28:13.640 Wake up. 28:14.360 --> 28:15.800 All the porn you can eat. 28:16.340 --> 28:17.940 You have a hard drive full of prawn. 28:18.060 --> 28:18.560 I did this. 28:18.620 --> 28:19.280 I kid you not. 28:19.280 --> 28:24.280 I did this one time probably with, I don't know, an old 40 gig drive or something like that that was half full. 28:24.960 --> 28:28.920 And the next morning, when I went to my computer, there was an error message out of disk space. 28:29.540 --> 28:38.000 It had downloaded gigabytes upon gigabytes upon gigabytes of porn and MP3s and anything that you could possibly imagine. 28:39.040 --> 28:40.280 It downloads fast. 28:40.380 --> 28:42.820 You can open up multiple threads, etc., etc., etc. 28:42.820 --> 28:48.960 So, if you're interested in that, and who's not interested in prawn, check out X News. 28:48.960 --> 28:49.120 I am. 28:49.660 --> 28:50.620 Yeah, exactly. 28:51.360 --> 28:52.640 You're in your car right now. 28:52.640 --> 28:53.560 We should mention this to people. 28:53.640 --> 28:54.480 You're in your car. 28:55.280 --> 28:56.880 Looking at porn as we speak. 28:56.880 --> 28:59.260 I wasn't going to go there. 28:59.340 --> 29:00.900 I was actually going to tell the honest story. 29:01.160 --> 29:02.000 Actually, let's jump in. 29:02.060 --> 29:03.660 Let's transition into the show and tell. 29:03.680 --> 29:04.520 Let's tell the honest story. 29:04.800 --> 29:04.920 Oh. 29:06.200 --> 29:09.080 Last time you were on, you were driving around looking for prostitutes. 29:09.140 --> 29:10.880 This time, you just went straight for the porn. 29:11.540 --> 29:17.760 Well, I've got a wireless access point in my house, and I've got a wireless PDA, so that's a logical progression. 29:18.100 --> 29:18.440 All right. 29:18.620 --> 29:19.840 Wireless and wireless equals porn. 29:19.940 --> 29:20.420 Come on. 29:20.420 --> 29:24.740 Well, we'll use this as a translation into our show and tell of what we've been working on. 29:24.840 --> 29:28.320 You're working on your cool new Axum, isn't it? 29:29.060 --> 29:29.380 Yep. 29:29.760 --> 29:30.860 Axum X30. 29:31.800 --> 29:32.520 And what do you think of that? 29:33.520 --> 29:38.320 I guess my show and tell for this week is going to be a typical hardware review, if you don't mind. 29:38.780 --> 29:39.320 Oh, no. 29:39.360 --> 29:39.960 By all means. 29:39.960 --> 29:46.700 I've actually tried two, well, a smartphone and this PDA this week. 29:47.280 --> 29:49.900 Both of these were courtesy of work. 29:51.160 --> 29:52.900 The first was the Trae O600. 29:53.360 --> 30:01.180 And if anyone's considering a smartphone, a palm-based smartphone versus a PDA of some sort, I'd say go for the PDA. 30:02.940 --> 30:05.560 The Trae O600 was nice, so I'll give them that. 30:05.560 --> 30:11.740 But the Axum has, you know, around the same cost, a whole lot more. 30:11.740 --> 30:22.620 For the exact same price, this one came with 802.11b, Bluetooth, half a gig memory stick, a 624 megahertz processor, and 64 megs of internal memory. 30:22.620 --> 30:31.920 When you're looking at, you know, the Trae O600, which has the SD slot again, it didn't come with a half a gig stick, doesn't have wireless, unless, actually, I think the 650 has at least Bluetooth. 30:31.920 --> 30:35.780 But comparing the two, this thing is just a dream. 30:37.160 --> 30:39.860 I can start practicing my war shitting again. 30:39.860 --> 30:44.960 Oh, thanks for that image. 30:46.760 --> 30:48.180 Oh, you know, what can I say? 30:49.140 --> 30:50.740 Wi-Fi porn in the bathroom. 30:50.840 --> 30:52.040 What more can you ask for? 30:52.800 --> 30:54.020 No, no, no, no, no. 30:54.320 --> 30:55.660 Think about it for a moment. 30:55.920 --> 30:56.160 Yeah. 30:56.360 --> 31:02.580 Let's say there is a company that you've been trying to get into for, you know, whatever. 31:02.660 --> 31:04.260 You can't get a decent signal outside. 31:04.340 --> 31:05.240 You try your antennas. 31:06.060 --> 31:07.040 You know, you just can't get it. 31:07.040 --> 31:10.420 And let's say it's either a retail store or a large corporate office. 31:10.880 --> 31:14.100 Well, most large corporate offices and retail stores have public restrooms. 31:14.640 --> 31:18.160 So you say, all right, you walk in and say, hey, you know, can I use your restroom real quick? 31:18.340 --> 31:19.520 Make sure it's a hot day. 31:19.780 --> 31:25.380 You know, act like you've been out walking the downtown area for hours and hours and you just have to go. 31:25.640 --> 31:26.500 Do the pee-pee dance. 31:26.520 --> 31:28.620 You walk in with your PDA or laptop in your backpack. 31:29.620 --> 31:31.660 Sit down and start while attacking. 31:32.560 --> 31:34.720 And you don't have to be shitting while doing so, but... 31:34.720 --> 31:35.760 But they don't know that. 31:35.760 --> 31:37.360 Yeah, there you go. 31:37.960 --> 31:42.480 And that would make it more realistic if they decided to check up on you and there was a horrid smell wafting through the air. 31:42.540 --> 31:43.440 Yeah, if you just grunt. 31:45.500 --> 31:46.300 Actually, you know what? 31:46.340 --> 31:47.820 That is pretty hardcore, actually. 31:48.140 --> 31:48.960 That's pretty hardcore. 31:49.700 --> 31:50.460 And it doesn't have to be... 31:50.460 --> 31:51.580 A few times, honestly. 31:51.800 --> 31:54.560 Yeah, it doesn't even have to be a retail establishment, honestly. 31:54.660 --> 31:55.760 You can go into a business. 31:55.760 --> 31:58.740 I mean, some, of course, have real strict security. 31:58.860 --> 32:05.680 But, I mean, if you go in and do the pee-pee dance or something like that and act like you're going to shit in the floor, they might, you know, they might let you through. 32:06.880 --> 32:07.480 Oh, man. 32:07.500 --> 32:08.180 I said a bad word. 32:08.220 --> 32:08.520 Oh, well. 32:08.640 --> 32:09.080 Piss on them. 32:10.340 --> 32:10.660 Anyway. 32:10.820 --> 32:11.380 Yeah, fuck it. 32:11.620 --> 32:12.260 Yeah, fuck it. 32:12.700 --> 32:13.180 All right. 32:13.740 --> 32:15.140 People say I purposely hold back. 32:15.180 --> 32:17.060 I don't, but I just regret it when I do. 32:17.060 --> 32:18.060 I feel dirty. 32:18.840 --> 32:20.760 I'm a bad, bad, bad host. 32:21.560 --> 32:23.760 Stop looking at porn and get back on the show. 32:23.980 --> 32:24.720 Yeah, exactly. 32:25.520 --> 32:27.180 I should be saying that to you, though. 32:27.420 --> 32:28.300 You're the one looking... 32:28.300 --> 32:29.380 Anyway, what about you... 32:29.380 --> 32:29.700 So... 32:29.700 --> 32:30.860 Dirty, dirty. 32:33.360 --> 32:38.560 And, you know, how horrible is this that I'm thinking, how can I make that into a Hack TV segment? 32:40.420 --> 32:41.920 Nobody wants to see that. 32:42.100 --> 32:42.960 That's awful. 32:43.460 --> 32:44.400 That's awful. 32:45.560 --> 32:46.320 War shitting. 32:46.320 --> 32:48.620 I can just see the title at the bottom of the screen. 32:48.760 --> 32:50.260 War shitting starring Voodoo Howl. 32:51.860 --> 32:52.980 And, hey, listen. 32:53.080 --> 32:58.340 All I'm going to do is tell you up front that I know we might be meeting together at a conference upcoming, 32:58.600 --> 33:00.920 but I am not your cameraman for that one. 33:00.980 --> 33:02.540 You're going to have to do that on your own, bro. 33:03.760 --> 33:04.480 Sorry, man. 33:04.500 --> 33:05.400 I can't help you with that. 33:06.520 --> 33:09.980 The certain lines you can't cross, and I don't break the third wall. 33:10.660 --> 33:15.280 We can get quite a few people to download that from different groups, like the guys who are into that kind of porn. 33:15.280 --> 33:17.520 Yeah, people would be downloading it on NewsX. 33:18.940 --> 33:20.320 Be out on the news groups. 33:21.100 --> 33:21.420 In the... 33:21.420 --> 33:23.860 What is it? 33:23.940 --> 33:24.300 Scat. 33:24.420 --> 33:25.540 In the Scat news groups. 33:27.300 --> 33:28.100 Hacker Scat. 33:28.360 --> 33:29.080 Oh, man. 33:29.320 --> 33:30.200 Hey, hold on. 33:30.220 --> 33:31.340 Let me check and see if that's registered. 33:31.440 --> 33:32.740 Hackerscat.com. 33:32.740 --> 33:35.560 Oh, man. 33:35.600 --> 33:38.400 Did we take a nosedive on content all of a sudden? 33:39.340 --> 33:40.960 What happens when I'm on here? 33:41.100 --> 33:41.640 Come on now. 33:41.680 --> 33:42.140 Oh, I know. 33:42.240 --> 33:43.020 Actually, that notes. 33:43.160 --> 33:44.580 Joking aside, that is kind of a... 33:44.580 --> 33:46.980 That's a very sincere and very cool idea. 33:47.140 --> 33:49.580 I mean, it's worth laughing and being crude about it, 33:49.600 --> 33:53.240 but war shitting, I think, is absolutely a viable term. 33:54.340 --> 33:56.920 I think you just coined a term. 33:56.920 --> 34:02.380 I might actually register warshitting.com just as another joke, just as another play site. 34:03.200 --> 34:04.820 I might just have to go and do that. 34:04.900 --> 34:06.740 Somebody, if our listeners, get to it before me. 34:08.820 --> 34:14.440 And, of course, I would have to put warshitting.info so that people would get information on what it is first. 34:15.640 --> 34:16.720 Oh, all right. 34:16.800 --> 34:19.760 Anyway, you got anything else? 34:20.520 --> 34:21.840 That's pretty much it for me. 34:21.840 --> 34:27.820 Well, I'll transfer, because we mentioned conferences, and I guess we'll kind of talk about... 34:27.820 --> 34:33.920 I mentioned before that Interzone is coming up, and I'm leaning towards going now. 34:34.100 --> 34:40.320 It's just making a decision on if I'm going to be able to present or not. 34:40.760 --> 34:44.000 I don't know what their situation is, so I'm going to have to make some contacts from people, 34:44.080 --> 34:49.440 but I'm probably heading to Atlanta in March 11th? 34:49.440 --> 34:52.160 I think something like that, yeah. 34:52.240 --> 35:00.300 I think it's the 11th through the 13th offhand, but obviously check out interzone.com with a zero. 35:00.900 --> 35:01.840 Interzone with a zero. 35:03.360 --> 35:04.560 Not com with a zero. 35:04.680 --> 35:05.260 That won't work. 35:06.840 --> 35:08.360 Interzone with a zero. 35:08.380 --> 35:10.180 That's the new Hacksaw TLD. 35:10.580 --> 35:11.880 Yeah, I wonder if we can get one. 35:11.880 --> 35:16.820 I wonder if we can become the official Hacksaw registrar for .c0m. 35:16.820 --> 35:25.680 And then, you know how many phishers would be registering ebay.c0m and yahoo.c0m and microsoft.c0m? 35:27.080 --> 35:29.440 Oh, the phishing would be rampant. 35:30.900 --> 35:32.000 Can you hear me now? 35:32.740 --> 35:34.340 I can not hear you. 35:34.460 --> 35:35.700 I almost got you. 35:36.080 --> 35:38.420 You almost said yes. 35:39.620 --> 35:40.820 Oh, so... 35:40.820 --> 35:46.540 I'm looking at my year ahead. 35:46.540 --> 35:54.120 I'm going to make DEF CON this year for a couple of reasons. 35:54.260 --> 35:55.800 One, because it's going to be cool. 35:57.040 --> 35:58.520 Obvious reason that it's going to be cool. 35:58.720 --> 36:00.180 I've talked to a lot of people. 36:00.280 --> 36:01.120 I'm definitely going to meet up. 36:01.180 --> 36:03.280 We have some plans of some things to do there, 36:03.360 --> 36:05.760 so I'm meeting a bunch of different people to hang out. 36:05.800 --> 36:06.780 It's going to be a blast. 36:07.440 --> 36:12.140 And secondly, because there are some rumors floating around about DEF CON, 36:12.140 --> 36:15.980 I'm not going to be the one to out them here on the show, 36:16.180 --> 36:18.160 but I've heard things. 36:18.720 --> 36:19.640 I've heard things. 36:19.640 --> 36:24.340 Anyway, I suggest if you want to go to DEF CON, 36:24.440 --> 36:26.500 you might want to make sure that you go this year. 36:28.300 --> 36:29.760 And so besides the conference, 36:29.860 --> 36:33.760 I've got to work that all out with my job and vacation time, etc., etc. 36:33.760 --> 36:36.620 So I've got to figure out which ones I'm going to this early, 36:36.880 --> 36:37.640 believe it or not, 36:38.480 --> 36:40.740 and financially if I can afford to make them. 36:40.740 --> 36:43.680 So I've got to start saving and planning now. 36:43.800 --> 36:44.740 So that's what I've been doing. 36:45.840 --> 36:46.240 And... 36:46.240 --> 36:48.740 Quick, inner zone is March 11th through 13th. 36:49.280 --> 36:50.200 Okay, confirmed. 36:51.000 --> 36:53.000 So please go check that out. 36:54.160 --> 36:57.140 I cannot tell you really a lot about it, frankly, 36:57.220 --> 36:58.060 because I've never been. 36:58.260 --> 37:00.260 Actually, you and I were going to go to the last one, 37:00.380 --> 37:03.040 and we both had things fall through on us. 37:03.920 --> 37:04.240 Yep. 37:04.460 --> 37:06.740 So actually, I think we both got... 37:07.320 --> 37:08.240 You got hit with work, 37:08.240 --> 37:12.600 and I just got hit with financial difficulties. 37:13.520 --> 37:14.240 Polite word. 37:15.600 --> 37:17.780 So other than that, 37:17.900 --> 37:18.700 I've got... 37:18.700 --> 37:20.820 We're going to have to be making some server changes, 37:20.940 --> 37:23.080 some hosting changes very soon. 37:23.760 --> 37:26.600 We've just grown far, far too big, 37:27.340 --> 37:29.060 and we're eating up bandwidth, 37:29.820 --> 37:31.560 I mean, faster than they give it to us. 37:31.560 --> 37:35.740 So we have to start now addressing a longer-term solution. 37:36.600 --> 37:37.720 And I will be doing... 37:37.720 --> 37:37.960 Yes, you are eating up bandwidth. 37:38.500 --> 37:38.960 What's that? 37:39.720 --> 37:41.260 Yes, you are eating up bandwidth. 37:41.340 --> 37:43.120 Yeah, you can attest to that. 37:45.260 --> 37:46.760 And, you know, it's a good thing. 37:46.880 --> 37:47.240 It's not... 37:47.240 --> 37:47.940 There's nothing wrong. 37:48.020 --> 37:49.620 It's just part of the growth process, 37:49.620 --> 37:51.500 and we just have to adapt and change with it. 37:51.520 --> 37:51.940 That's all. 37:52.000 --> 37:54.440 We just have to work some things out with it, 37:54.460 --> 37:55.580 and that's what I'm going to do. 37:55.720 --> 37:58.080 I'm going to be looking into that heavily over the last... 37:58.620 --> 38:00.360 Over the next month, I should say, 38:00.360 --> 38:04.200 and probably talk more about that towards the end of the show, too. 38:04.200 --> 38:08.680 So I'm probably going to be changing over to new hosts. 38:08.820 --> 38:10.760 There's going to be some... 38:10.760 --> 38:12.660 Hopefully, I'll make it as smooth as possible, 38:12.840 --> 38:15.020 but I don't know when exactly. 38:15.160 --> 38:16.520 Of course, I'll keep people posted. 38:17.060 --> 38:19.020 We'll try to make a seamless transition 38:19.020 --> 38:20.520 where the forums don't go down 38:20.520 --> 38:22.240 and the radio show doesn't miss a beat 38:22.240 --> 38:23.360 and all that kind of good stuff. 38:23.360 --> 38:25.900 But that will probably be happening 38:25.900 --> 38:29.260 over the course of the next two months at the most. 38:29.400 --> 38:31.720 Probably sometime in February, this will happen. 38:32.920 --> 38:34.500 So that's a big change. 38:35.160 --> 38:37.680 And I guess as long as we're talking about hardware, 38:37.960 --> 38:41.060 I mentioned before that I was getting a new monitor, I think. 38:41.240 --> 38:44.540 So I wanted to wait until I used it for a little while 38:44.540 --> 38:46.420 before I mentioned it in any detail, 38:46.520 --> 38:47.360 but I bought the Dell... 38:48.200 --> 38:49.820 Well, I shopped around, first of all. 38:49.820 --> 38:54.440 I shopped around and the best buy for the money 38:54.440 --> 38:55.500 ended up being a Dell 38:55.500 --> 38:57.580 because A, there were coupon codes available 38:57.580 --> 38:59.340 and B, it was over the Christmas break. 38:59.740 --> 39:02.000 It was kind of my Christmas present for myself, if you will. 39:02.560 --> 39:04.080 And Dell had another little promotion 39:04.080 --> 39:06.160 where you could get these little coupon codes 39:06.160 --> 39:07.080 for more discounts. 39:07.700 --> 39:09.320 So I was able to combine some discounts 39:09.320 --> 39:12.220 and get what I thought was a really good price on this. 39:12.420 --> 39:13.280 It's a... 39:13.280 --> 39:16.600 I think the model number is a 2005 FPW, 39:17.040 --> 39:18.760 but it's a 21-inch... 39:18.760 --> 39:23.080 I'm sorry, a 20.1-inch LCD flat panel widescreen monitor. 39:24.180 --> 39:26.960 So I had been using a 21-inch CRT. 39:27.140 --> 39:29.200 I didn't want to go down to a 19 LCD, 39:29.340 --> 39:31.820 so I was waiting for the prices on the 20s and higher to drop. 39:32.080 --> 39:33.540 So they finally did. 39:34.440 --> 39:37.380 I wasn't too sure about the widescreen 39:37.380 --> 39:38.740 and how I was going to like it 39:38.740 --> 39:39.780 and how that was going to work out, 39:39.880 --> 39:41.580 but it's actually pretty cool. 39:41.580 --> 39:43.820 It definitely takes some getting used to 39:43.820 --> 39:48.020 because your screen is just so wide 39:48.020 --> 39:52.700 that, well, silly things become a pain, 39:52.780 --> 39:55.220 like wallpaper gets stretched and twisted 39:55.220 --> 39:57.640 so that it doesn't look as good. 39:57.760 --> 39:59.900 So you've got to do some... 39:59.900 --> 40:02.040 come up with some better wallpaper on your own 40:02.040 --> 40:04.240 or find some out there that's close enough to stretch. 40:04.240 --> 40:06.920 But on the other hand, 40:06.960 --> 40:07.980 there's some good things about it. 40:08.020 --> 40:08.620 When you're editing, 40:08.860 --> 40:10.240 when you're reading any text files, 40:10.360 --> 40:11.580 reading something in your browser, 40:11.940 --> 40:14.020 editing something, code, 40:14.540 --> 40:15.980 you get a lot of real estate, 40:16.200 --> 40:17.300 left-to-right real estate, 40:17.400 --> 40:19.100 on your screen to read your code. 40:19.600 --> 40:21.000 And you don't have to page as much 40:21.000 --> 40:21.800 and scroll as much 40:21.800 --> 40:23.780 because you get a lot more information on the screen. 40:24.180 --> 40:24.980 That is cool. 40:25.120 --> 40:26.900 And because of the widescreen nature, 40:27.240 --> 40:29.720 it's very easy to put things side-by-side 40:29.720 --> 40:32.000 so you can compare code right next to each other 40:32.000 --> 40:33.060 and cut and paste easily 40:33.060 --> 40:35.940 without alt-tabbing 20 times 40:35.940 --> 40:38.440 or looking for your item on the taskbar, 40:38.580 --> 40:39.380 et cetera, et cetera. 40:40.180 --> 40:41.300 You're going to be one of the fuckers 40:41.300 --> 40:42.420 that programmers want to kill 40:42.420 --> 40:46.400 who have code that's like 500 columns long? 40:46.880 --> 40:47.360 No, no, no. 40:47.860 --> 40:48.360 I'm very... 40:48.360 --> 40:49.560 It's typically on mine. 40:49.880 --> 40:51.300 I actually, no. 40:51.420 --> 40:52.540 I actually hard code. 40:52.640 --> 40:54.720 I put a cutoff at 80 characters 40:54.720 --> 40:56.480 for all of my code, 40:56.520 --> 40:57.780 except there's a couple exceptions 40:57.780 --> 40:58.920 where I can go to 128. 40:59.960 --> 41:01.140 There's a couple exceptions 41:01.140 --> 41:02.880 on some mainframes and stuff like that 41:02.880 --> 41:04.600 where it's better to go with 128, 41:04.840 --> 41:06.280 but that's a whole other topic. 41:07.220 --> 41:08.380 Generally, I make sure 41:08.380 --> 41:09.820 that I put it at 80 characters 41:09.820 --> 41:10.620 no matter what. 41:11.480 --> 41:11.960 All right. 41:12.060 --> 41:13.840 Now, my text files or articles 41:13.840 --> 41:15.700 are something I might be sloppy with, 41:15.780 --> 41:16.800 but not my source code. 41:16.960 --> 41:18.060 Very anal retentive 41:18.060 --> 41:19.760 about everything being lined up 41:19.760 --> 41:20.520 in my source code. 41:22.220 --> 41:24.080 So, that's my show and tell for the week. 41:24.920 --> 41:26.520 And maybe... 41:27.380 --> 41:29.420 Actually, the main topic this week 41:29.420 --> 41:30.920 may fall under a show and tell 41:30.920 --> 41:32.440 because it's something 41:32.440 --> 41:33.760 that I've been playing with 41:33.760 --> 41:34.720 this past week 41:34.720 --> 41:35.360 and, man, 41:35.460 --> 41:36.920 that could be taken out of context 41:36.920 --> 41:37.880 really bad. 41:38.380 --> 41:39.440 Back to the porn, huh? 41:39.440 --> 41:44.100 I totally... 41:44.100 --> 41:44.900 I don't even know... 41:44.900 --> 41:46.460 Remember how I stumbled across this? 41:46.500 --> 41:48.500 I was doing something on... 41:48.500 --> 41:49.820 I have two Windows boxes 41:49.820 --> 41:50.980 at my house 41:50.980 --> 41:53.800 out of one, two... 41:53.800 --> 41:55.240 I don't know, six computers, 41:55.340 --> 41:55.980 something like that, 41:56.020 --> 41:57.080 a couple of them that are dead, 41:57.200 --> 41:58.120 a couple of them that are Linux, 41:58.260 --> 41:58.980 et cetera, et cetera. 41:59.640 --> 42:01.340 I've got two Windows boxes at home. 42:02.320 --> 42:03.420 So, I went over to the other... 42:03.420 --> 42:05.440 One of them is my video editing machine 42:05.440 --> 42:06.540 dedicated to Hack TV. 42:06.540 --> 42:07.700 I swear to you people, 42:07.780 --> 42:08.920 I actually do work on it. 42:09.640 --> 42:11.160 So, one of the boxes is... 42:11.160 --> 42:11.480 And actually, 42:11.540 --> 42:12.500 I just bought that recently 42:12.500 --> 42:14.200 dedicated to video editing 42:14.200 --> 42:15.660 and it's running Windows XP 42:15.660 --> 42:17.660 and video editing software 42:17.660 --> 42:18.160 and that's it. 42:18.800 --> 42:20.060 And that's the one 42:20.060 --> 42:21.980 that I used to install 42:21.980 --> 42:23.040 Service Pack 2 on 42:23.040 --> 42:23.800 to test and see 42:23.800 --> 42:24.640 what it was all about. 42:25.040 --> 42:26.360 I still have not installed it 42:26.360 --> 42:27.520 on my other Windows box 42:27.520 --> 42:29.120 because I've got a lot 42:29.120 --> 42:30.020 of open source software. 42:30.160 --> 42:31.860 This is my open source Windows box, 42:32.200 --> 42:34.880 if that's not an oxymoron. 42:34.880 --> 42:36.800 It's a Windows... 42:36.800 --> 42:38.200 It has Windows XP on it 42:38.200 --> 42:38.940 but all the software 42:38.940 --> 42:39.620 is open source. 42:39.740 --> 42:41.820 I'm proving that you can run 42:41.820 --> 42:42.900 open source software 42:42.900 --> 42:44.360 and do everything 42:44.360 --> 42:45.100 that you could do 42:45.100 --> 42:46.620 with pay software. 42:47.640 --> 42:48.040 Anyway, 42:48.140 --> 42:49.180 why am I talking about that? 42:49.240 --> 42:49.540 Anyway, 42:50.300 --> 42:51.480 on the other box, 42:51.600 --> 42:53.100 I put all the updates on 42:53.100 --> 42:54.040 and I keep it up to... 42:54.040 --> 42:55.000 It's a Borg machine. 42:55.120 --> 42:56.500 I keep it totally Borgified 42:56.500 --> 42:58.200 so that I have all the latest 42:58.200 --> 42:59.700 Microsoft service this 42:59.700 --> 43:00.640 and update that 43:00.640 --> 43:01.460 and extra this, 43:01.580 --> 43:01.960 yada, yada. 43:01.960 --> 43:02.320 So, 43:02.540 --> 43:03.660 the latest thing, 43:04.320 --> 43:05.400 I saw that Windows 43:05.400 --> 43:07.640 came out with a new 43:07.640 --> 43:08.740 spyware tool. 43:09.980 --> 43:11.760 Spyware tool similar 43:11.760 --> 43:13.060 to Adaware is one. 43:13.160 --> 43:13.520 What's a... 43:13.520 --> 43:14.120 I can't think... 43:14.120 --> 43:14.920 There's a couple others 43:14.920 --> 43:15.420 out there. 43:16.100 --> 43:17.360 I bought Search and Destroy. 43:17.600 --> 43:17.980 Yeah, 43:18.280 --> 43:19.240 those type of things. 43:20.880 --> 43:21.240 Adaware, 43:21.400 --> 43:21.540 I think, 43:21.600 --> 43:22.680 is the most popular one 43:22.680 --> 43:23.580 and it's pretty good. 43:24.440 --> 43:24.840 So, 43:24.940 --> 43:25.920 Microsoft offers 43:25.920 --> 43:26.820 a new one now, 43:26.840 --> 43:27.000 right? 43:27.000 --> 43:27.480 It's a beta, 43:27.600 --> 43:28.000 I believe. 43:28.820 --> 43:29.100 But, 43:29.160 --> 43:30.060 they have that to download 43:30.060 --> 43:31.280 at Microsoft.com 43:31.280 --> 43:32.240 like I need to tell you 43:32.240 --> 43:32.660 their site. 43:34.060 --> 43:34.500 But, 43:34.660 --> 43:35.940 it was interesting. 43:36.040 --> 43:36.360 There were some 43:36.360 --> 43:37.220 interesting things 43:37.220 --> 43:37.900 about it 43:37.900 --> 43:39.120 that I wanted to talk about. 43:39.200 --> 43:39.960 In and of itself, 43:40.540 --> 43:40.880 okay, 43:41.060 --> 43:41.500 surprise, 43:41.620 --> 43:42.820 Microsoft copies somebody, 43:43.000 --> 43:43.320 you know, 43:43.420 --> 43:43.800 whatever. 43:44.400 --> 43:44.580 But, 43:44.660 --> 43:45.860 it's the way that... 43:45.860 --> 43:47.100 The whole process of this 43:47.100 --> 43:48.140 I found interesting 43:48.140 --> 43:48.720 and worthy 43:48.720 --> 43:49.920 of a topic 43:49.920 --> 43:50.520 for the show. 43:51.100 --> 43:52.040 First of all, 43:52.960 --> 43:54.800 to get this download 43:54.800 --> 43:55.920 and a few others now, 43:56.000 --> 43:56.940 Microsoft has started 43:56.940 --> 43:57.880 this new program. 43:58.100 --> 43:58.420 It's called 43:58.420 --> 43:59.080 the Genuine, 43:59.180 --> 44:00.680 Windows Genuine Program. 44:02.220 --> 44:02.660 And, 44:02.780 --> 44:04.460 basically, 44:04.900 --> 44:05.700 to download 44:05.700 --> 44:06.740 this spyware tool, 44:06.860 --> 44:07.140 and again, 44:07.220 --> 44:08.180 there's some other tools 44:08.180 --> 44:08.960 that they want you 44:08.960 --> 44:09.800 to do this as well. 44:10.360 --> 44:11.180 It's sort of like 44:11.180 --> 44:12.460 a registration process 44:12.460 --> 44:13.220 they want you 44:13.220 --> 44:13.980 to go through 44:13.980 --> 44:14.960 on their site. 44:15.740 --> 44:16.760 They want you 44:16.760 --> 44:17.600 to go there 44:17.600 --> 44:18.960 and validate 44:18.960 --> 44:20.760 and prove 44:20.760 --> 44:21.440 that your copy 44:21.440 --> 44:21.920 of Windows 44:21.920 --> 44:22.840 is authentic. 44:23.840 --> 44:24.240 So, 44:24.320 --> 44:24.700 it has an 44:24.700 --> 44:25.820 ActiveX control. 44:26.240 --> 44:26.940 You have to use 44:26.940 --> 44:27.440 IE. 44:27.540 --> 44:28.560 How convenient is that? 44:29.180 --> 44:29.600 You have to use 44:29.600 --> 44:30.020 Internet Explorer. 44:30.100 --> 44:30.720 It did not work 44:30.720 --> 44:31.800 with Firefox. 44:32.100 --> 44:32.900 I do have Firefox 44:32.900 --> 44:33.600 on that box 44:33.600 --> 44:35.560 because it's so awesome 44:35.560 --> 44:36.380 compared to IE. 44:36.460 --> 44:38.420 I don't run a box 44:38.420 --> 44:39.520 without Firefox anymore. 44:41.580 --> 44:42.320 I wonder why 44:42.320 --> 44:43.020 somebody hasn't done 44:43.020 --> 44:43.760 a Dr. Seuss 44:43.760 --> 44:45.480 Firefox book yet. 44:46.520 --> 44:47.020 A parody. 44:48.000 --> 44:49.580 Firefox with socks 44:49.580 --> 44:49.980 or whatever. 44:51.560 --> 44:51.960 Anyway, 44:52.460 --> 44:52.720 man, 44:52.820 --> 44:52.920 we're, 44:53.140 --> 44:53.360 boy, 44:54.020 --> 44:54.900 weird show tonight. 44:54.900 --> 44:56.540 Anyway, 44:56.880 --> 44:58.800 they have an 44:58.800 --> 44:59.620 ActiveX control 44:59.620 --> 45:00.460 that will tell 45:00.460 --> 45:01.840 if you have, 45:01.880 --> 45:02.520 I guess somehow 45:02.520 --> 45:03.020 tell if you have 45:03.020 --> 45:03.740 a valid copy 45:03.740 --> 45:04.440 of Windows. 45:05.320 --> 45:05.680 So, 45:06.020 --> 45:06.960 according to their site 45:06.960 --> 45:07.640 it says it's not 45:07.640 --> 45:09.540 required at this time 45:09.540 --> 45:11.120 but it could be 45:11.120 --> 45:11.620 in the future. 45:12.100 --> 45:12.120 So, 45:13.400 --> 45:13.800 you know, 45:14.000 --> 45:14.500 I figured, 45:14.640 --> 45:14.780 let me, 45:14.940 --> 45:15.620 first thing I did 45:15.620 --> 45:16.440 is read up on it. 45:16.740 --> 45:17.020 You know, 45:17.080 --> 45:17.520 I don't click 45:17.520 --> 45:18.040 through anything 45:18.040 --> 45:19.040 until I read a little bit, 45:19.100 --> 45:20.040 do a little research first. 45:20.120 --> 45:20.620 I'm not going to 45:20.620 --> 45:21.740 blindly accept anything 45:21.740 --> 45:22.540 from anybody, 45:22.680 --> 45:23.380 especially Microsoft. 45:23.380 --> 45:24.260 So, 45:24.340 --> 45:24.860 I went to reading 45:24.860 --> 45:25.660 through their FAQ 45:25.660 --> 45:26.080 and through their 45:26.080 --> 45:27.020 information pages 45:27.020 --> 45:27.880 and it says 45:27.880 --> 45:28.880 what do they collect 45:28.880 --> 45:30.960 to validate this? 45:31.020 --> 45:31.120 Well, 45:31.160 --> 45:31.760 they collect your 45:31.760 --> 45:33.320 OEM product key, 45:34.060 --> 45:35.440 the PC manufacturer, 45:36.680 --> 45:37.840 your OS version, 45:38.640 --> 45:39.160 why do they say 45:39.160 --> 45:39.840 OS version? 45:39.900 --> 45:40.200 They should say 45:40.200 --> 45:41.000 Windows version. 45:41.620 --> 45:42.200 I'm not detecting 45:42.200 --> 45:43.000 any other OS 45:43.000 --> 45:43.620 besides Windows. 45:44.460 --> 45:46.020 P-I-D-S-I-D, 45:46.800 --> 45:47.880 BIOS information, 45:48.500 --> 45:50.600 BIOS MD5 checksum. 45:51.860 --> 45:52.340 Interesting. 45:53.380 --> 45:53.600 So, 45:53.720 --> 45:54.380 I thought that was 45:54.380 --> 45:54.760 interesting 45:54.760 --> 45:55.680 and then, 45:56.180 --> 45:58.220 I just found this funny 45:58.220 --> 45:58.480 again, 45:58.540 --> 45:59.020 this ironic. 45:59.180 --> 46:00.520 One question from the FAQ 46:00.520 --> 46:01.780 that says, 46:01.900 --> 46:02.140 quote, 46:02.260 --> 46:03.720 are ActiveX controls 46:03.720 --> 46:05.640 safe to run on my PC? 46:05.900 --> 46:06.060 Now, 46:06.100 --> 46:06.240 again, 46:06.280 --> 46:07.540 this is an ActiveX control 46:07.540 --> 46:08.740 that will scan 46:08.740 --> 46:09.880 and get that information 46:09.880 --> 46:10.860 that I listed earlier. 46:11.900 --> 46:13.180 Are ActiveX controls 46:13.180 --> 46:14.200 safe to run on my PC? 46:14.300 --> 46:14.520 Because, 46:14.660 --> 46:14.960 as you know, 46:15.000 --> 46:15.720 with Service Pack 2 46:15.720 --> 46:16.220 especially, 46:17.280 --> 46:18.360 it'll pop up and say, 46:18.560 --> 46:18.860 warning, 46:18.860 --> 46:19.600 you're about to run 46:19.600 --> 46:21.580 this ActiveX control, 46:21.760 --> 46:22.440 blah, blah, blah. 46:23.140 --> 46:24.400 The answer from the FAQ 46:24.400 --> 46:24.680 says, 46:24.760 --> 46:26.000 as long as the control 46:26.000 --> 46:27.360 comes signed by a publisher 46:27.360 --> 46:28.020 you trust, 46:28.300 --> 46:29.600 then the ActiveX control 46:29.600 --> 46:30.680 can be safely run 46:30.680 --> 46:31.320 on your PC. 46:31.760 --> 46:32.920 The ActiveX control 46:32.920 --> 46:33.780 used by Windows 46:33.780 --> 46:34.840 genuine advantage 46:34.840 --> 46:35.720 is signed by 46:35.720 --> 46:37.000 Microsoft Corporation. 46:37.480 --> 46:38.360 If you do not see 46:38.360 --> 46:39.800 sufficient evidence 46:39.800 --> 46:40.560 of this signature, 46:40.980 --> 46:41.800 then you should not 46:41.800 --> 46:43.480 download the control. 46:43.480 --> 46:48.280 I should download it 46:48.280 --> 46:49.220 if it comes signed 46:49.220 --> 46:50.520 by a publisher I trust. 46:51.280 --> 46:52.160 I don't trust 46:52.160 --> 46:53.580 Microsoft Corporation! 46:55.140 --> 46:55.780 And they're the 46:55.780 --> 46:56.900 signing agency here, 46:56.960 --> 46:58.000 so where does that put me? 46:58.060 --> 46:58.900 I don't trust them 46:58.900 --> 46:59.460 to sign it. 46:59.480 --> 46:59.880 They're signing 46:59.880 --> 47:00.940 their own certificate, 47:01.440 --> 47:01.680 which, 47:01.800 --> 47:02.180 first of all, 47:02.180 --> 47:03.240 I won't even go into 47:03.240 --> 47:05.180 how colossally stupid 47:05.700 --> 47:06.320 that is. 47:06.980 --> 47:07.300 Oh yeah, 47:07.360 --> 47:08.000 we signed our own 47:08.000 --> 47:08.380 certificate. 47:08.540 --> 47:09.040 Trust us, 47:09.060 --> 47:09.580 it's valid. 47:10.760 --> 47:12.100 That's like some guy 47:12.100 --> 47:13.120 signing Babe Ruth 47:13.120 --> 47:13.660 to a baseball 47:13.660 --> 47:13.880 and saying, 47:13.940 --> 47:14.460 no, trust me, 47:14.480 --> 47:14.880 it's real. 47:15.360 --> 47:15.900 Come on. 47:16.780 --> 47:17.180 Seriously, 47:17.340 --> 47:18.640 that's just a dumb idea. 47:18.980 --> 47:19.740 How can you trust 47:19.740 --> 47:21.340 a Microsoft sign? 47:22.220 --> 47:23.160 That's just dumb, 47:23.260 --> 47:23.780 and I just thought 47:23.780 --> 47:24.620 it was funny because 47:24.620 --> 47:25.480 what if you don't 47:25.480 --> 47:26.200 trust Microsoft? 47:26.540 --> 47:27.260 Which I don't. 47:28.260 --> 47:28.960 They're the only place 47:28.960 --> 47:29.660 to get this, 47:29.700 --> 47:30.400 or are they? 47:30.520 --> 47:31.480 And that's something else 47:31.480 --> 47:32.180 I'm going to talk about 47:32.180 --> 47:32.520 in a minute. 47:35.080 --> 47:35.840 The way, 47:36.140 --> 47:36.840 let's see, 47:36.900 --> 47:38.080 the process itself, 47:38.500 --> 47:38.940 okay, 47:39.020 --> 47:40.100 so all that being said, 47:40.500 --> 47:41.400 over on that box, 47:41.500 --> 47:42.280 I want it to be 47:42.280 --> 47:42.740 Borgified. 47:42.740 --> 47:43.620 That's the whole point 47:43.620 --> 47:44.520 and so I can keep up 47:44.520 --> 47:45.180 with what Microsoft 47:45.180 --> 47:46.220 is doing and watch it 47:46.220 --> 47:47.040 and see what all this stuff. 47:47.560 --> 47:48.280 So I went through 47:48.280 --> 47:49.200 the process on that 47:49.200 --> 47:49.940 one computer, 47:51.040 --> 47:51.880 start to finish, 47:51.980 --> 47:53.100 validating my copy 47:53.100 --> 47:53.600 of Windows, 47:53.700 --> 47:54.320 all the way to 47:54.320 --> 47:55.340 downloading the tool, 47:55.540 --> 47:55.900 et cetera, 47:56.000 --> 47:56.280 et cetera. 47:56.860 --> 47:57.220 So, 47:57.420 --> 47:57.960 first of all, 47:58.040 --> 47:58.520 in the site, 47:58.700 --> 47:59.620 Microsoft has set up 47:59.620 --> 48:00.180 a site called 48:00.180 --> 48:01.460 HowToTell, 48:01.920 --> 48:05.600 H-O-W-T-O-T-E-L-L.com, 48:06.140 --> 48:07.140 which just redirects you 48:07.140 --> 48:07.700 to a Microsoft 48:07.700 --> 48:08.960 subdirectory. 48:08.960 --> 48:09.820 But if you want to 48:09.820 --> 48:10.700 validate your copy 48:10.700 --> 48:11.080 of Windows 48:11.080 --> 48:12.140 and download this, 48:12.300 --> 48:13.460 that's the starting point 48:13.460 --> 48:14.060 or that's at least 48:14.060 --> 48:15.080 the point to do 48:15.080 --> 48:17.000 the Genuine Advantage 48:17.000 --> 48:17.820 program where you 48:17.820 --> 48:18.720 validate your key. 48:19.720 --> 48:20.600 So the first thing 48:20.600 --> 48:21.200 it wants to do 48:21.200 --> 48:21.400 is, 48:21.480 --> 48:21.580 again, 48:21.620 --> 48:22.280 it's an ActiveX 48:22.280 --> 48:22.600 control. 48:22.700 --> 48:23.160 So I wanted to 48:23.160 --> 48:24.160 validate my license 48:24.160 --> 48:26.560 via ActiveX. 48:27.400 --> 48:28.560 Then they allowed me 48:28.560 --> 48:29.420 to download 48:29.420 --> 48:30.460 the Anti-Spyware. 48:30.520 --> 48:31.120 Now what they did 48:31.120 --> 48:32.260 for the licensing, 48:32.400 --> 48:32.840 by the way, 48:32.940 --> 48:34.960 is it comes up 48:34.960 --> 48:35.800 with a little control 48:35.800 --> 48:36.660 that basically says 48:36.660 --> 48:37.600 type in your number 48:37.600 --> 48:38.300 from the sticker, 48:38.420 --> 48:39.360 the little hologram 48:39.360 --> 48:40.200 sticker that all 48:40.200 --> 48:40.600 the Windows 48:40.600 --> 48:41.420 come with for the 48:41.420 --> 48:42.060 last few years 48:42.060 --> 48:43.400 since 2000 or so. 48:44.300 --> 48:45.080 The little hologram 48:45.080 --> 48:45.600 has the little 48:45.600 --> 48:47.180 five-node key 48:47.180 --> 48:48.080 with five characters 48:48.080 --> 48:48.640 in each one. 48:48.740 --> 48:49.740 You enter that in, 48:50.220 --> 48:51.420 it associates that 48:51.420 --> 48:52.840 with the other things 48:52.840 --> 48:53.380 that I mentioned 48:53.380 --> 48:53.940 earlier, 48:54.280 --> 48:57.280 to tie you down 48:57.280 --> 48:58.200 to one computer. 48:58.500 --> 48:58.960 There's enough 48:58.960 --> 48:59.840 information there. 49:00.420 --> 49:01.460 They claim in their 49:01.460 --> 49:02.000 fact they don't 49:02.000 --> 49:02.540 collect any, 49:02.740 --> 49:02.940 quote, 49:03.060 --> 49:04.460 personally identifiable 49:04.460 --> 49:05.160 information, 49:05.640 --> 49:06.480 or PII, 49:06.480 --> 49:07.400 which is a very 49:07.400 --> 49:08.160 important term 49:08.160 --> 49:09.240 that we went 49:09.240 --> 49:10.760 into many episodes 49:10.760 --> 49:11.220 ago, 49:11.880 --> 49:12.780 a legal term 49:12.780 --> 49:13.220 as far as 49:13.220 --> 49:13.940 computer privacy 49:13.940 --> 49:14.380 goes, 49:14.800 --> 49:15.240 PII. 49:15.840 --> 49:16.600 They claim they 49:16.600 --> 49:17.120 don't collect 49:17.120 --> 49:17.780 any PII. 49:18.040 --> 49:18.400 However, 49:19.040 --> 49:19.760 using the things 49:19.760 --> 49:20.180 we mentioned 49:20.180 --> 49:20.640 before, 49:20.780 --> 49:21.340 the key that 49:21.340 --> 49:21.840 you put on 49:21.840 --> 49:22.060 there, 49:22.200 --> 49:22.720 the type of 49:22.720 --> 49:23.220 computer you 49:23.220 --> 49:23.620 have, 49:23.720 --> 49:24.680 the BIOS 49:24.680 --> 49:25.180 information, 49:25.320 --> 49:25.980 and the MD5 49:25.980 --> 49:26.560 checksum they 49:26.560 --> 49:27.340 put on the BIOS, 49:27.440 --> 49:27.760 et cetera, 49:28.120 --> 49:28.880 they can tie it 49:28.880 --> 49:29.540 down to that 49:29.540 --> 49:30.660 computer very 49:30.660 --> 49:31.140 closely, 49:31.300 --> 49:33.120 very precisely. 49:33.120 --> 49:35.740 so it's very 49:35.740 --> 49:36.540 much something 49:36.540 --> 49:37.360 that easily 49:37.360 --> 49:38.260 can be targeted. 49:39.820 --> 49:40.360 You know 49:40.360 --> 49:40.760 what I mean? 49:41.980 --> 49:42.760 I'm with you. 49:42.920 --> 49:43.500 Is that making 49:43.500 --> 49:43.800 sense? 49:43.860 --> 49:44.540 Does that sound 49:44.540 --> 49:45.700 scary, 49:45.880 --> 49:46.300 or does that 49:46.300 --> 49:48.240 sound not so 49:48.240 --> 49:48.500 much? 49:49.480 --> 49:50.460 I think it's 49:50.460 --> 49:51.460 Microsoft finally 49:51.460 --> 49:52.520 coming forward 49:52.520 --> 49:53.100 with stuff that 49:53.100 --> 49:53.520 they've already 49:53.520 --> 49:54.000 been doing, 49:54.080 --> 49:54.520 but that's just 49:54.520 --> 49:54.800 me. 49:55.120 --> 49:55.340 Well, 49:55.480 --> 49:56.040 that could... 49:56.040 --> 49:56.840 I'm so frightened 49:56.840 --> 49:57.200 of it. 49:57.640 --> 49:57.900 Yeah, 49:58.000 --> 49:59.220 that may very 49:59.220 --> 49:59.700 well be true. 49:59.760 --> 50:00.140 You're absolutely 50:00.140 --> 50:00.560 right. 50:01.080 --> 50:02.200 And to take 50:02.200 --> 50:02.620 that a step 50:02.620 --> 50:02.960 further, 50:03.100 --> 50:03.740 they may say 50:03.740 --> 50:04.060 they're not 50:04.060 --> 50:04.580 collecting it 50:04.580 --> 50:04.820 here, 50:04.960 --> 50:06.420 but they 50:06.420 --> 50:07.080 have... 50:07.080 --> 50:07.260 Okay, 50:07.340 --> 50:08.160 this is a 50:08.160 --> 50:09.100 database of 50:09.100 --> 50:09.580 the things 50:09.580 --> 50:09.860 that I 50:09.860 --> 50:10.500 mentioned earlier 50:10.500 --> 50:10.980 and the key 50:10.980 --> 50:11.460 that you just 50:11.460 --> 50:12.320 put in and 50:12.320 --> 50:13.020 authenticated. 50:13.140 --> 50:13.580 So you tied 50:13.580 --> 50:14.060 that key to 50:14.060 --> 50:14.500 that machine 50:14.500 --> 50:15.040 is basically 50:15.040 --> 50:15.920 what this 50:15.920 --> 50:16.760 database does. 50:17.000 --> 50:18.020 Ties that 50:18.020 --> 50:18.960 key to that 50:18.960 --> 50:19.540 machine is 50:19.540 --> 50:20.060 basically what 50:20.060 --> 50:20.540 this database 50:20.540 --> 50:22.120 effectively does. 50:23.440 --> 50:24.240 The second 50:24.240 --> 50:24.920 thing is, 50:24.940 --> 50:25.480 that's database 50:25.480 --> 50:26.080 number one. 50:26.720 --> 50:27.120 The other 50:27.120 --> 50:27.600 thing you need 50:27.600 --> 50:28.600 to put all 50:28.600 --> 50:28.980 of this in 50:28.980 --> 50:29.880 perspective is, 50:29.880 --> 50:30.620 if you 50:30.620 --> 50:31.920 have a, 50:32.460 --> 50:33.020 what do 50:33.020 --> 50:33.340 they call 50:33.340 --> 50:33.460 it, 50:33.480 --> 50:34.080 a passport 50:34.080 --> 50:34.700 account. 50:35.460 --> 50:36.040 If you have 50:36.040 --> 50:36.540 a passport 50:36.540 --> 50:36.900 account, 50:36.960 --> 50:37.220 which is 50:37.220 --> 50:38.080 database B, 50:39.120 --> 50:39.880 it's not 50:39.880 --> 50:40.440 necessarily 50:40.440 --> 50:40.920 irrelevant. 50:41.100 --> 50:41.460 In database 50:41.460 --> 50:42.140 B over 50:42.140 --> 50:42.320 there, 50:42.420 --> 50:42.920 you've got 50:42.920 --> 50:43.860 your personal 50:43.860 --> 50:44.400 information, 50:44.560 --> 50:44.780 like your 50:44.780 --> 50:45.320 name and 50:45.320 --> 50:45.900 address and 50:45.900 --> 50:46.300 stuff that 50:46.300 --> 50:46.620 you filled 50:46.620 --> 50:46.880 out when 50:46.880 --> 50:47.220 you signed 50:47.220 --> 50:47.620 up for a 50:47.620 --> 50:47.960 Hotmail 50:47.960 --> 50:49.100 account or 50:49.100 --> 50:49.780 a TechNet 50:49.780 --> 50:50.940 account or 50:50.940 --> 50:51.400 any of the 50:51.400 --> 50:52.160 other Microsoft 50:52.160 --> 50:53.320 services or 50:53.320 --> 50:54.320 passport services 50:54.320 --> 50:54.680 or anything 50:54.680 --> 50:55.360 like that. 50:56.300 --> 50:56.660 And if they 50:56.660 --> 50:57.200 can just come 50:57.200 --> 50:57.600 up with a 50:57.600 --> 50:57.900 key, 50:58.360 --> 50:58.780 a way to 50:58.780 --> 50:59.220 link those 50:59.220 --> 50:59.740 two tables 50:59.740 --> 51:00.180 together, 51:00.780 --> 51:01.500 they've got 51:01.500 --> 51:02.460 your personally 51:02.460 --> 51:03.140 identifiable 51:03.140 --> 51:04.120 information and 51:04.120 --> 51:04.620 they've got it 51:04.620 --> 51:05.360 tied to your 51:05.360 --> 51:05.820 license, 51:06.180 --> 51:06.540 to your 51:06.540 --> 51:06.980 computer, 51:07.160 --> 51:07.340 and they 51:07.340 --> 51:08.080 just synchronize 51:08.080 --> 51:08.620 all this 51:08.620 --> 51:09.300 stuff together. 51:10.520 --> 51:11.780 So I 51:11.780 --> 51:12.940 absolutely, 51:13.260 --> 51:14.100 I'm assuming 51:14.100 --> 51:14.840 that they do 51:14.840 --> 51:15.400 that and have 51:15.400 --> 51:15.880 done that. 51:16.000 --> 51:16.720 And like you 51:16.720 --> 51:16.900 said, 51:16.960 --> 51:17.340 they've probably 51:17.340 --> 51:17.920 been doing 51:17.920 --> 51:19.380 that to a 51:19.380 --> 51:20.020 certain extent. 51:20.020 --> 51:22.940 so that to 51:22.940 --> 51:23.240 me is a 51:23.240 --> 51:23.740 little scary. 51:24.000 --> 51:24.820 That's very 51:24.820 --> 51:27.600 scary. 51:29.000 --> 51:29.960 So I 51:29.960 --> 51:30.540 would not 51:30.540 --> 51:32.800 in general 51:32.800 --> 51:33.420 bother to 51:33.420 --> 51:33.820 go through 51:33.820 --> 51:34.160 with this 51:34.160 --> 51:34.480 genuine 51:34.480 --> 51:35.140 process and 51:35.140 --> 51:35.500 give them 51:35.500 --> 51:35.860 any more 51:35.860 --> 51:36.540 information than 51:36.540 --> 51:36.900 they already 51:36.900 --> 51:37.340 have. 51:37.940 --> 51:38.420 However, 51:38.540 --> 51:39.080 on that one 51:39.080 --> 51:39.460 box, 51:39.620 --> 51:40.360 for the sake 51:40.360 --> 51:40.900 of science, 51:40.940 --> 51:41.380 I did go 51:41.380 --> 51:41.800 ahead and go 51:41.800 --> 51:42.200 through with 51:42.200 --> 51:42.980 it and 51:42.980 --> 51:43.520 downloaded 51:43.520 --> 51:43.840 their 51:43.840 --> 51:45.160 anti-spyware 51:45.160 --> 51:45.580 tool. 51:45.580 --> 51:48.360 So one 51:48.360 --> 51:48.660 thing 51:48.660 --> 51:49.180 interesting 51:49.180 --> 51:49.720 about this 51:49.720 --> 51:50.080 that caught 51:50.080 --> 51:50.460 my eye 51:50.460 --> 51:51.040 first of all 51:51.040 --> 51:51.680 is that when 51:51.680 --> 51:52.240 I was done 51:52.240 --> 51:52.600 with the 51:52.600 --> 51:53.120 authentication, 51:53.700 --> 51:54.360 which it's 51:54.360 --> 51:55.040 a box from 51:55.040 --> 51:55.320 Dell, 51:55.380 --> 51:55.640 it comes 51:55.640 --> 51:56.240 pre-installed 51:56.240 --> 51:56.740 with Windows, 51:56.820 --> 51:57.360 of course it's 51:57.360 --> 51:58.140 a valid copy 51:58.140 --> 51:58.600 of Windows 51:58.600 --> 51:59.120 for crying 51:59.120 --> 51:59.620 out loud. 52:01.940 --> 52:02.360 It's a 52:02.360 --> 52:05.640 refurbished 52:05.640 --> 52:05.860 Dell, 52:05.940 --> 52:06.220 I mean it's 52:06.220 --> 52:06.580 not a good 52:06.580 --> 52:06.780 Dell, 52:06.840 --> 52:07.060 it's a 52:07.060 --> 52:07.240 cheap 52:07.240 --> 52:07.540 Dell. 52:10.480 --> 52:11.320 The URL 52:11.320 --> 52:11.700 that it 52:11.700 --> 52:12.340 generated for 52:12.340 --> 52:12.580 me to 52:12.580 --> 52:13.800 download was 52:13.800 --> 52:14.760 interesting and 52:14.760 --> 52:15.160 caught my 52:15.160 --> 52:15.380 eye. 52:15.380 --> 52:15.920 The URL 52:15.920 --> 52:17.180 itself did 52:17.180 --> 52:17.740 not take 52:17.740 --> 52:18.060 me to 52:18.060 --> 52:18.680 just a 52:18.680 --> 52:19.240 download 52:19.240 --> 52:20.020 site or 52:20.020 --> 52:20.420 a download 52:20.420 --> 52:21.620 link in a 52:21.620 --> 52:22.200 subdirectory 52:22.200 --> 52:22.700 somewhere that 52:22.700 --> 52:23.220 was protected 52:23.220 --> 52:23.860 in any way. 52:24.960 --> 52:26.380 The URL 52:26.380 --> 52:27.520 itself had a 52:27.520 --> 52:28.080 very long 52:28.080 --> 52:28.600 string of 52:28.600 --> 52:29.320 characters in 52:29.320 --> 52:30.820 it that 52:30.820 --> 52:32.700 I guess 52:32.700 --> 52:33.360 all I can 52:33.360 --> 52:33.720 say is 52:33.720 --> 52:34.020 if, 52:35.340 --> 52:36.100 oh man, 52:36.140 --> 52:36.360 I don't know 52:36.360 --> 52:36.660 how to put 52:36.660 --> 52:36.980 this in order. 52:37.020 --> 52:37.420 Help me with 52:37.420 --> 52:37.580 this, 52:37.680 --> 52:37.800 voodoo 52:37.800 --> 52:37.940 hell. 52:38.060 --> 52:38.880 It's not a 52:38.880 --> 52:39.380 session key. 52:39.500 --> 52:40.040 Session keys 52:40.040 --> 52:40.340 have a 52:40.340 --> 52:40.700 distinctive 52:40.700 --> 52:41.280 look and I 52:41.280 --> 52:41.500 don't know 52:41.500 --> 52:41.700 how to 52:41.700 --> 52:42.420 describe that. 52:43.220 --> 52:43.500 Right. 52:43.900 --> 52:44.540 Session keys 52:44.540 --> 52:44.840 have a 52:44.840 --> 52:45.600 distinctive look 52:45.600 --> 52:46.220 in the 52:46.220 --> 52:47.100 characters that 52:47.100 --> 52:48.060 it can use 52:48.060 --> 52:48.480 as part of 52:48.480 --> 52:49.040 a session key. 52:49.140 --> 52:49.560 It can use 52:49.560 --> 52:51.980 alpha, numeric, 52:52.080 --> 52:52.820 special characters, 52:52.980 --> 52:53.160 etc. 52:53.960 --> 52:54.440 Right. 52:54.780 --> 52:55.660 This did not 52:55.660 --> 52:56.420 use that, 52:56.500 --> 52:57.040 so it was not 52:57.040 --> 52:57.860 a session key. 52:58.420 --> 52:58.880 However, 52:59.000 --> 52:59.700 it was something 52:59.700 --> 52:59.980 that was 52:59.980 --> 53:01.240 dynamically generated. 53:01.620 --> 53:02.220 What it looked 53:02.220 --> 53:03.100 like was some 53:03.100 --> 53:04.300 sort of key 53:04.300 --> 53:06.700 that you get 53:06.700 --> 53:07.380 when you register 53:07.380 --> 53:07.860 a Microsoft 53:07.860 --> 53:09.260 product in 53:09.260 --> 53:09.640 general. 53:09.640 --> 53:10.660 It seems 53:10.660 --> 53:11.020 like I've 53:11.020 --> 53:11.400 seen it. 53:11.480 --> 53:11.800 It's like 53:11.800 --> 53:13.140 three nodes. 53:13.280 --> 53:13.960 The first 53:13.960 --> 53:14.380 part has 53:14.380 --> 53:14.640 I think 53:14.640 --> 53:15.060 five or 53:15.060 --> 53:15.720 six characters. 53:16.260 --> 53:16.500 The middle 53:16.500 --> 53:16.660 one. 53:16.880 --> 53:17.860 The office 53:17.860 --> 53:19.280 type key 53:19.280 --> 53:19.580 that they 53:19.580 --> 53:19.900 use? 53:20.020 --> 53:20.460 Yeah. 53:20.580 --> 53:20.820 You know 53:20.820 --> 53:21.120 the key 53:21.120 --> 53:21.640 itself is 53:21.640 --> 53:22.600 five sections 53:22.600 --> 53:23.260 with five 53:23.260 --> 53:23.600 or six 53:23.600 --> 53:24.060 numbers in 53:24.060 --> 53:25.200 each section. 53:25.280 --> 53:25.500 Or is it 53:25.500 --> 53:25.820 six? 53:26.480 --> 53:26.840 Right. 53:27.220 --> 53:27.620 But then 53:27.620 --> 53:28.060 after you 53:28.060 --> 53:28.540 register and 53:28.540 --> 53:28.980 you go into 53:28.980 --> 53:29.700 help about 53:29.700 --> 53:30.280 and you look 53:30.280 --> 53:30.700 at your key 53:30.700 --> 53:30.980 there, 53:31.040 --> 53:31.280 it's not 53:31.280 --> 53:31.640 the same 53:31.640 --> 53:31.880 thing. 53:31.940 --> 53:32.220 It's a 53:32.220 --> 53:32.880 different key 53:32.880 --> 53:33.440 structure. 53:34.480 --> 53:34.800 You know, 53:34.860 --> 53:35.200 it's the 53:35.200 --> 53:35.880 hash, I guess, 53:35.940 --> 53:36.460 for lack of a 53:36.460 --> 53:36.980 better word. 53:38.200 --> 53:38.900 And that's 53:38.900 --> 53:39.280 what was 53:39.280 --> 53:40.320 generated and 53:40.320 --> 53:41.140 put into my 53:41.140 --> 53:41.560 URL. 53:42.100 --> 53:42.480 So the 53:42.480 --> 53:43.140 string that I 53:43.140 --> 53:43.440 went to 53:43.440 --> 53:44.040 download was 53:44.040 --> 53:44.760 something like, 53:44.800 --> 53:45.460 and I don't 53:45.460 --> 53:45.920 have it in 53:45.920 --> 53:46.200 front of me, 53:46.240 --> 53:46.460 but it was 53:46.460 --> 53:46.840 something like 53:46.840 --> 53:47.840 microsoft.com 53:47.840 --> 53:49.900 slash spyware 53:49.900 --> 53:50.840 slash download 53:50.840 --> 53:53.260 slash g7412 53:53.260 --> 53:56.520 dash g64194 53:56.520 --> 53:56.720 whatever, 53:56.860 --> 53:57.340 the key, 53:57.720 --> 53:58.700 then slash, 53:58.860 --> 53:59.500 and then 53:59.500 --> 54:01.080 the .exe 54:01.080 --> 54:01.440 file. 54:02.400 --> 54:03.180 So to me, 54:03.480 --> 54:04.060 because it 54:04.060 --> 54:04.940 generated that 54:04.940 --> 54:06.120 specific key and 54:06.120 --> 54:06.580 put it in the 54:06.580 --> 54:06.920 URL, 54:07.420 --> 54:08.040 I think it 54:08.040 --> 54:08.380 did it for 54:08.380 --> 54:08.820 no other 54:08.820 --> 54:09.380 reason than 54:09.380 --> 54:10.360 to log and 54:10.360 --> 54:12.140 or pass that 54:12.140 --> 54:12.820 key on 54:12.820 --> 54:13.420 somewhere so 54:13.420 --> 54:13.680 that they 54:13.680 --> 54:14.100 could store 54:14.100 --> 54:14.640 that in a 54:14.640 --> 54:15.820 database and 54:15.820 --> 54:16.880 have that tied 54:16.880 --> 54:17.480 back to me. 54:17.600 --> 54:17.800 And that, 54:17.960 --> 54:18.260 again, 54:19.260 --> 54:20.200 becomes part of 54:20.200 --> 54:21.000 the algorithm, 54:21.180 --> 54:21.560 if you will, 54:21.660 --> 54:22.500 combine that 54:22.500 --> 54:23.480 with the 54:23.480 --> 54:25.620 MD5 checksum 54:25.620 --> 54:26.620 somehow and 54:26.620 --> 54:27.460 or the code 54:27.460 --> 54:27.960 that I entered 54:27.960 --> 54:28.460 in for this 54:28.460 --> 54:28.920 authentication 54:28.920 --> 54:29.860 process that 54:29.860 --> 54:30.760 they now have 54:30.760 --> 54:31.700 a way to 54:31.700 --> 54:33.620 prove that 54:33.620 --> 54:34.180 that is supposed 54:34.180 --> 54:34.780 to be downloaded 54:34.780 --> 54:35.380 to me. 54:36.120 --> 54:36.900 And I 54:36.900 --> 54:37.640 suspected, 54:38.340 --> 54:38.980 this was my 54:38.980 --> 54:39.700 guess at first 54:39.700 --> 54:40.260 and maybe this 54:40.260 --> 54:41.080 will come to 54:41.080 --> 54:42.040 fruition in the 54:42.040 --> 54:42.360 future, 54:43.080 --> 54:44.260 that since that 54:44.260 --> 54:44.900 was generated 54:44.900 --> 54:46.140 by a combination 54:46.140 --> 54:47.140 of two keys 54:47.140 --> 54:47.900 that I had 54:47.900 --> 54:48.700 uniquely identified 54:48.700 --> 54:49.160 to me, 54:49.540 --> 54:49.780 that would 54:49.780 --> 54:50.580 probably only 54:50.580 --> 54:51.400 work for me. 54:52.480 --> 54:53.040 Wrong. 54:53.500 --> 54:54.340 I was surprised 54:54.340 --> 54:54.760 at this. 54:55.080 --> 54:55.820 I thought that 54:55.820 --> 54:56.820 because that was 54:56.820 --> 54:57.800 generated by some 54:57.800 --> 54:58.780 specific keys that 54:58.780 --> 54:59.480 would only work 54:59.480 --> 55:00.260 on that computer. 55:00.860 --> 55:01.640 It did not. 55:01.640 --> 55:02.460 I took that 55:02.460 --> 55:02.880 URL, 55:04.180 --> 55:05.280 I copied it 55:05.280 --> 55:05.960 over to my 55:05.960 --> 55:06.620 other computer, 55:07.100 --> 55:07.740 I copied it 55:07.740 --> 55:08.440 and pasted it, 55:09.880 --> 55:10.120 well, 55:10.220 --> 55:10.720 I copied it 55:10.720 --> 55:11.620 to a text file 55:11.620 --> 55:12.080 and sent it 55:12.080 --> 55:12.220 over. 55:12.300 --> 55:12.700 I didn't copy 55:12.700 --> 55:13.120 and paste it 55:13.120 --> 55:13.660 through space 55:13.660 --> 55:14.180 and time, 55:15.000 --> 55:15.620 but I copied 55:15.620 --> 55:16.200 and pasted it 55:16.200 --> 55:17.000 over to a 55:17.000 --> 55:17.840 text file 55:17.840 --> 55:18.460 over to this 55:18.460 --> 55:19.600 system and 55:19.600 --> 55:20.120 tried to go 55:20.120 --> 55:20.780 to the same 55:20.780 --> 55:21.600 URL and 55:21.600 --> 55:22.160 download it. 55:22.280 --> 55:22.880 I was really 55:22.880 --> 55:23.680 expecting it to 55:23.680 --> 55:24.780 tell me that 55:24.780 --> 55:25.540 the hash does 55:25.540 --> 55:26.440 not match this 55:26.440 --> 55:27.120 computer and it 55:27.120 --> 55:27.660 not let me, 55:28.120 --> 55:28.860 but sure enough 55:28.860 --> 55:29.280 it let me 55:29.280 --> 55:29.820 download it with 55:29.820 --> 55:30.320 no problem. 55:32.220 --> 55:33.600 So I thought 55:33.600 --> 55:34.280 that was really 55:34.280 --> 55:34.960 interesting and 55:34.960 --> 55:35.720 I was surprised. 55:35.840 --> 55:36.580 I really did 55:36.580 --> 55:37.120 think that it 55:37.120 --> 55:38.000 would stop me 55:38.000 --> 55:38.600 from downloading 55:38.600 --> 55:39.280 it or come up 55:39.280 --> 55:39.620 with a thing 55:39.620 --> 55:40.020 that says, 55:40.140 --> 55:41.240 sorry that this 55:41.240 --> 55:42.360 URL has a 55:42.360 --> 55:43.260 key that does 55:43.260 --> 55:43.960 not match your 55:43.960 --> 55:44.520 license or 55:44.520 --> 55:44.840 something. 55:45.040 --> 55:45.820 It did not. 55:45.900 --> 55:46.420 It downloaded 55:46.420 --> 55:48.060 fine to the 55:48.060 --> 55:48.420 hard drive. 55:48.420 --> 55:48.900 I started, 55:49.020 --> 55:49.360 I went ahead 55:49.360 --> 55:49.880 and stopped it 55:49.880 --> 55:50.440 because I didn't 55:50.440 --> 55:51.040 need it again, 55:51.480 --> 55:52.140 but I downloaded 55:52.140 --> 55:52.700 it because the 55:52.700 --> 55:53.380 second thing that 55:53.380 --> 55:54.320 I wanted to test 55:54.320 --> 55:55.160 was this. 55:55.820 --> 55:56.520 Okay, fine, 55:56.580 --> 55:56.880 it would have 55:56.880 --> 55:57.600 let me download 55:57.600 --> 55:57.900 it. 55:58.460 --> 55:59.080 Maybe that's 55:59.080 --> 55:59.700 because when it 55:59.700 --> 56:00.340 downloaded it, 56:00.380 --> 56:00.840 somehow it 56:00.840 --> 56:01.460 embedded that 56:01.460 --> 56:02.280 key in there 56:02.280 --> 56:02.980 and it would 56:02.980 --> 56:03.980 only install 56:03.980 --> 56:05.200 on that 56:05.200 --> 56:05.660 particular 56:05.660 --> 56:06.140 computer. 56:07.060 --> 56:07.660 Maybe on the 56:07.660 --> 56:08.420 install process 56:08.420 --> 56:08.820 it would say, 56:08.920 --> 56:09.780 sorry, but this 56:09.780 --> 56:10.440 is the key that 56:10.440 --> 56:11.160 I was expecting 56:11.160 --> 56:11.900 and this is not 56:11.900 --> 56:12.740 the system that 56:12.740 --> 56:13.160 it was meant 56:13.160 --> 56:13.760 for or something 56:13.760 --> 56:14.340 like that. 56:15.320 --> 56:16.040 Again, I'm not 56:16.040 --> 56:16.560 sold that this 56:16.560 --> 56:17.240 won't happen in 56:17.240 --> 56:17.660 the future, 56:18.240 --> 56:19.640 but it 56:19.640 --> 56:20.320 installed with 56:20.320 --> 56:20.920 no problem. 56:21.320 --> 56:21.740 I brought it 56:21.740 --> 56:22.220 over to this 56:22.220 --> 56:22.860 other Windows 56:22.860 --> 56:23.240 box, 56:23.660 --> 56:24.280 installed it, 56:24.640 --> 56:25.420 started installing 56:25.420 --> 56:25.780 it, I should 56:25.780 --> 56:25.940 say. 56:25.980 --> 56:26.380 I didn't want 56:26.380 --> 56:26.740 it on this 56:26.740 --> 56:27.140 box, so I 56:27.140 --> 56:27.800 stopped it halfway 56:27.800 --> 56:28.120 through and 56:28.120 --> 56:29.040 canceled, but it 56:29.040 --> 56:29.700 did start 56:29.700 --> 56:30.200 installing. 56:30.400 --> 56:31.140 It worked 56:31.140 --> 56:32.300 perfectly fine 56:32.300 --> 56:33.200 to take that 56:33.200 --> 56:34.100 installation file 56:34.100 --> 56:34.920 and copy it 56:34.920 --> 56:35.360 over to a 56:35.360 --> 56:35.920 different system 56:35.920 --> 56:36.640 and it ran 56:36.640 --> 56:39.220 like it was 56:39.220 --> 56:39.540 nothing. 56:40.260 --> 56:41.000 So what this 56:41.000 --> 56:41.900 means is 56:41.900 --> 56:44.220 that's a huge 56:44.220 --> 56:45.120 bypass to the 56:45.120 --> 56:45.860 whole authentication 56:45.860 --> 56:46.340 thing. 56:46.580 --> 56:47.160 You don't have to 56:47.160 --> 56:47.900 authenticate to 56:47.900 --> 56:48.460 download this 56:48.460 --> 56:49.120 freaking thing. 56:49.980 --> 56:50.620 All you need to 56:50.620 --> 56:52.540 do is, first of 56:52.540 --> 56:52.920 all, I don't know 56:52.920 --> 56:53.620 if other download 56:53.620 --> 56:54.540 sites might not 56:54.540 --> 56:55.520 carry it because of 56:55.520 --> 56:56.260 fear from Microsoft, 56:56.260 --> 56:57.100 but any download 56:57.100 --> 56:57.660 site could put 56:57.660 --> 56:58.080 it up and it 56:58.080 --> 56:58.420 would work 56:58.420 --> 56:59.000 universally. 56:59.940 --> 57:00.700 But if they 57:00.700 --> 57:01.380 don't, which they 57:01.380 --> 57:02.040 probably won't out 57:02.040 --> 57:02.480 of fear for 57:02.480 --> 57:03.520 Microsoft, all you 57:03.520 --> 57:04.060 got to do is go 57:04.060 --> 57:05.060 to a university, go 57:05.060 --> 57:05.940 to school, go to 57:05.940 --> 57:06.880 a friend's house, go 57:06.880 --> 57:09.180 anywhere, that is if 57:09.180 --> 57:09.720 you don't have a 57:09.720 --> 57:10.420 licensed copy of 57:10.420 --> 57:11.980 XP, which we're not 57:11.980 --> 57:12.700 condoning that you 57:12.700 --> 57:13.560 don't or piracy or 57:13.560 --> 57:14.260 I'm not even touching 57:14.260 --> 57:15.300 that, but for 57:15.300 --> 57:16.280 theoretical purposes, 57:16.280 --> 57:17.180 if you don't have a 57:17.180 --> 57:18.320 valid copy of XP but 57:18.320 --> 57:19.340 you want this spyware, 57:20.000 --> 57:20.700 go to a friend's 57:20.700 --> 57:21.740 house, go to school, 57:22.440 --> 57:23.420 register their stupid 57:23.420 --> 57:24.700 copy, download it to a 57:24.700 --> 57:26.180 USB drive and take 57:26.180 --> 57:26.980 it home and install 57:26.980 --> 57:27.260 it. 57:28.640 --> 57:29.900 This is the stupidest 57:29.900 --> 57:30.880 way to try to stop 57:30.880 --> 57:32.880 people, because the 57:32.880 --> 57:33.880 point is not to stop 57:33.880 --> 57:34.680 people from downloading 57:34.680 --> 57:35.840 it, the point is to 57:35.840 --> 57:36.640 get that information 57:36.640 --> 57:37.340 about you and your 57:37.340 --> 57:37.700 system. 57:38.760 --> 57:39.800 That's the point of 57:39.800 --> 57:39.960 it. 57:41.240 --> 57:42.260 So, good job 57:42.260 --> 57:43.120 Microsoft, way to 57:43.120 --> 57:43.820 think that one all 57:43.820 --> 57:44.180 the way through. 57:44.260 --> 57:44.940 I'm sure people aren't 57:44.940 --> 57:45.400 going to be sharing 57:45.400 --> 57:47.020 this on peer-to-peer 57:47.020 --> 57:47.680 and handing it out 57:47.680 --> 57:48.520 to their friends and 57:48.520 --> 57:49.240 downloading it from 57:49.240 --> 57:50.960 machines that aren't 57:50.960 --> 57:51.340 theirs. 57:52.000 --> 57:52.960 Come on, that's 57:52.960 --> 57:53.460 just dumb. 57:53.460 --> 57:54.880 Down with the 57:54.880 --> 57:55.120 man. 57:55.580 --> 57:56.800 That's just, seriously 57:56.800 --> 57:57.540 that's dumb. 57:58.380 --> 57:58.800 I thought I was 57:58.800 --> 57:59.180 going to get that 57:59.180 --> 57:59.860 in somewhere tonight. 58:01.660 --> 58:02.060 Really. 58:02.360 --> 58:03.060 Oh, and here's, this 58:03.060 --> 58:03.840 is another, this one 58:03.840 --> 58:04.460 was just downright 58:04.460 --> 58:04.840 creepy. 58:05.400 --> 58:06.140 On the install 58:06.140 --> 58:07.820 process itself, the 58:07.820 --> 58:08.640 first thing that comes 58:08.640 --> 58:09.240 up, it says 58:09.240 --> 58:11.860 Microsoft anti-spyware 58:11.860 --> 58:13.300 whatever with spy 58:13.300 --> 58:14.300 net technology. 58:14.520 --> 58:16.100 S-P-Y-N-E-T. 58:16.940 --> 58:17.800 Splash screen comes 58:17.800 --> 58:18.620 up with spy net 58:18.620 --> 58:19.320 technology. 58:19.520 --> 58:20.620 So, I don't know 58:20.620 --> 58:21.300 about you, but the 58:21.300 --> 58:21.440 first... 58:21.440 --> 58:21.920 It's on the NSA 58:21.920 --> 58:23.020 directly below that? 58:23.020 --> 58:23.860 Yeah, well the 58:23.860 --> 58:24.320 first thing that 58:24.320 --> 58:24.900 jumped into my 58:24.900 --> 58:25.440 mind, I don't know 58:25.440 --> 58:26.140 about you, but when 58:26.140 --> 58:28.180 I see spy net, my 58:28.180 --> 58:30.980 mind thinks, Skynet 58:30.980 --> 58:32.640 from, from the 58:32.640 --> 58:33.560 Terminator movies. 58:34.520 --> 58:35.600 Remember Skynet's 58:35.600 --> 58:36.680 the computer that 58:36.680 --> 58:37.660 took over everything 58:37.660 --> 58:38.520 and caused the 58:38.520 --> 58:39.160 robots and the 58:39.160 --> 58:40.260 machines to rise up 58:40.260 --> 58:42.180 and, that's not 58:42.180 --> 58:42.600 cool. 58:43.980 --> 58:45.780 That's not, that's 58:45.780 --> 58:46.660 just wrong. 58:47.000 --> 58:47.880 That's just rude. 58:48.600 --> 58:49.440 That's just rude. 58:49.520 --> 58:49.880 They should have 58:49.880 --> 58:50.300 just come right 58:50.300 --> 58:50.840 out and called it 58:50.840 --> 58:51.620 Skynet, except they 58:51.620 --> 58:52.020 probably would have 58:52.020 --> 58:52.600 gotten sued by 58:52.600 --> 58:53.540 Universal Studios. 58:54.080 --> 58:55.360 Anyway, I thought 58:55.360 --> 58:56.520 that was scary and 58:56.520 --> 58:57.140 that just kind of 58:57.140 --> 58:57.580 creeped me out. 58:57.660 --> 58:58.220 That's not, that's 58:58.220 --> 58:59.020 very foreboding. 58:59.140 --> 58:59.760 That's not a good 58:59.760 --> 59:00.620 way to start off. 59:01.580 --> 59:02.580 I actually, that 59:02.580 --> 59:03.140 came up on the 59:03.140 --> 59:05.220 splash screen and I 59:05.220 --> 59:06.000 couldn't believe it. 59:06.060 --> 59:07.060 I canceled the 59:07.060 --> 59:08.420 install just so I 59:08.420 --> 59:09.040 could start it again 59:09.040 --> 59:09.880 and make sure that I 59:09.880 --> 59:10.640 read it correctly. 59:10.740 --> 59:11.400 That freaked me out 59:11.400 --> 59:11.900 so bad. 59:12.780 --> 59:13.540 Well, if I told you 59:13.540 --> 59:14.620 the funny thing about 59:14.620 --> 59:15.640 their terminal services 59:15.640 --> 59:16.380 client... 59:16.380 --> 59:16.820 What's that? 59:16.820 --> 59:17.500 I've always found 59:17.500 --> 59:18.340 this new humorous. 59:19.140 --> 59:19.980 Microsoft Terminal 59:19.980 --> 59:20.940 Services Client for 59:20.940 --> 59:22.240 NT4O and possibly 59:22.240 --> 59:22.800 2000. 59:24.060 --> 59:25.340 You could get this 59:25.340 --> 59:25.980 tool that you would 59:25.980 --> 59:27.020 put on a floppy to 59:27.020 --> 59:28.520 create, or you could 59:28.520 --> 59:30.160 run it, create a 59:30.160 --> 59:30.760 terminal service 59:30.760 --> 59:31.720 client disk so you 59:31.720 --> 59:32.300 could carry it up to 59:32.300 --> 59:32.880 another machine and 59:32.880 --> 59:33.640 install the software. 59:34.260 --> 59:35.100 Well, Microsoft, in 59:35.100 --> 59:36.600 its infinite wisdom, 59:36.700 --> 59:37.500 decided to call this 59:37.500 --> 59:38.100 application 59:38.100 --> 59:39.940 conman.exe. 59:39.940 --> 59:44.080 Oh, that's great. 59:45.140 --> 59:46.280 That's, how 59:46.280 --> 59:46.780 appropriate. 59:48.320 --> 59:49.620 How appropriate is 59:49.620 --> 59:49.900 that? 59:50.900 --> 59:52.500 Man, Microsoft, man, 59:52.580 --> 59:53.340 they do some stupid 59:53.340 --> 59:54.280 things sometimes. 59:55.260 --> 59:56.040 Boy, that's the 59:56.040 --> 59:56.700 understatement of the 59:56.700 --> 59:57.220 year, isn't it? 59:57.880 --> 59:58.640 I think so. 59:58.680 --> 59:59.260 That was the 59:59.260 --> 01:00:00.580 understatement of... 01:00:00.580 --> 01:00:01.500 Thank you, God 01:00:01.500 --> 01:00:02.220 bless, the show's 01:00:02.220 --> 01:00:03.120 over, I can't end on 01:00:03.120 --> 01:00:03.880 any better note than 01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:04.300 that. 01:00:05.140 --> 01:00:05.920 That was the 01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:06.680 understatement of the 01:00:06.680 --> 01:00:06.900 year. 01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:09.000 Anyway, so, back to 01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:09.660 the story here. 01:00:10.340 --> 01:00:11.780 I installed and 01:00:11.780 --> 01:00:13.520 immediately updated the 01:00:13.520 --> 01:00:14.340 software so I had the 01:00:14.340 --> 01:00:15.120 latest definitions. 01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:16.720 There was an update, 01:00:16.820 --> 01:00:17.340 even though I just 01:00:17.340 --> 01:00:18.080 downloaded it, there 01:00:18.080 --> 01:00:20.100 was a newer scan, a 01:00:20.100 --> 01:00:23.380 newer library of 01:00:23.380 --> 01:00:24.660 spyware to scan for. 01:00:24.820 --> 01:00:26.000 So, I updated 01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:27.000 immediately, started my 01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:27.720 first scan. 01:00:28.140 --> 01:00:29.560 I set it up to do a 01:00:29.560 --> 01:00:31.000 full in-depth scan on 01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:31.960 the entire system. 01:00:33.140 --> 01:00:34.400 And then I also 01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:36.460 decided, just for the 01:00:36.460 --> 01:00:37.440 heck of it, to go 01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:38.240 ahead and scan. 01:00:38.240 --> 01:00:39.480 As long as I'm 01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:41.240 doing that, I 01:00:41.240 --> 01:00:41.880 thought, I don't 01:00:41.880 --> 01:00:42.580 want to install this 01:00:42.580 --> 01:00:43.580 on all my systems. 01:00:43.720 --> 01:00:44.700 I wonder if I can 01:00:44.700 --> 01:00:45.440 scan across the 01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:45.680 network. 01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:46.520 So, I connected to 01:00:46.520 --> 01:00:47.380 my file server. 01:00:48.020 --> 01:00:48.740 When I say connected, 01:00:48.820 --> 01:00:49.540 I'm sorry, I had 01:00:49.540 --> 01:00:50.720 drives mapped to my 01:00:50.720 --> 01:00:51.360 file server. 01:00:51.700 --> 01:00:52.460 So, I went ahead and 01:00:52.460 --> 01:00:53.500 included them on the 01:00:53.500 --> 01:00:54.120 deep scan. 01:00:55.120 --> 01:00:56.440 And, etc., etc., etc., 01:00:56.440 --> 01:00:57.520 all my systems that I 01:00:57.520 --> 01:00:58.240 could see are right 01:00:58.240 --> 01:00:59.260 across to over this 01:00:59.260 --> 01:00:59.840 one that I'm working 01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:00.660 on and recording the 01:01:00.660 --> 01:01:01.500 show on right now. 01:01:02.180 --> 01:01:03.280 And, had it start 01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:03.700 scanning. 01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:05.660 So, it scanned basically 01:01:05.660 --> 01:01:07.040 my entire network. 01:01:08.740 --> 01:01:09.220 Let's see. 01:01:09.700 --> 01:01:11.940 And, point being, 01:01:12.080 --> 01:01:13.120 even with all the 01:01:13.120 --> 01:01:13.820 stuff I told you about 01:01:13.820 --> 01:01:14.720 how you can download 01:01:14.720 --> 01:01:15.540 and install it on 01:01:15.540 --> 01:01:16.400 these machines easily, 01:01:16.620 --> 01:01:17.840 I don't really think 01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:18.840 that you need to because 01:01:18.840 --> 01:01:19.700 you can put it on one 01:01:19.700 --> 01:01:20.560 and scan across the 01:01:20.560 --> 01:01:21.280 entire network. 01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:23.260 So, that's another 01:01:23.260 --> 01:01:24.620 kind of... 01:01:24.620 --> 01:01:25.700 I mean, that's a good 01:01:25.700 --> 01:01:26.460 thing, but I'm just 01:01:26.460 --> 01:01:27.300 surprised that Microsoft 01:01:27.300 --> 01:01:27.720 did it. 01:01:27.740 --> 01:01:28.240 You know what I mean? 01:01:29.380 --> 01:01:30.560 I'm also not sure, 01:01:30.700 --> 01:01:31.720 though, honestly, if 01:01:31.720 --> 01:01:33.180 when I'm scanning it, 01:01:33.320 --> 01:01:35.920 a deep scan on another 01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:37.760 box, technically, 01:01:38.080 --> 01:01:39.780 your registry on that 01:01:39.780 --> 01:01:40.900 box is just a file. 01:01:41.060 --> 01:01:41.580 I don't know if it 01:01:41.580 --> 01:01:42.360 scanned the registry 01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:43.300 on the other box. 01:01:43.340 --> 01:01:43.780 I don't know if it's 01:01:43.780 --> 01:01:44.420 smart enough to do 01:01:44.420 --> 01:01:44.700 that. 01:01:44.920 --> 01:01:46.640 It is a file, but I 01:01:46.640 --> 01:01:47.100 don't know if it was... 01:01:47.100 --> 01:01:47.640 Probably not, but it 01:01:47.640 --> 01:01:48.360 is easy enough to 01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:49.480 connect to a remote 01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:50.340 registry on your 01:01:50.340 --> 01:01:50.760 network. 01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:51.640 Yeah. 01:01:51.640 --> 01:01:52.660 You can control the 01:01:52.660 --> 01:01:53.380 registry from any 01:01:53.380 --> 01:01:54.120 other box as long 01:01:54.120 --> 01:01:54.400 as you have 01:01:54.400 --> 01:01:55.120 credentials on it. 01:01:55.520 --> 01:01:56.380 Yeah, so I guess 01:01:56.380 --> 01:01:56.920 you could probably 01:01:56.920 --> 01:01:58.020 have done that and 01:01:58.020 --> 01:01:59.280 scanned the other 01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:00.140 box completely 01:02:00.140 --> 01:02:00.900 thoroughly if it 01:02:00.900 --> 01:02:01.760 didn't do it on 01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:02.380 its own, which I 01:02:02.380 --> 01:02:03.160 don't suspect it 01:02:03.160 --> 01:02:04.340 did because it has 01:02:04.340 --> 01:02:05.080 a different process. 01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:06.260 It has scans files 01:02:06.260 --> 01:02:07.560 first, and then it 01:02:07.560 --> 01:02:11.120 scans registry keys 01:02:11.120 --> 01:02:12.080 second. 01:02:12.240 --> 01:02:12.700 So, I don't think 01:02:12.700 --> 01:02:12.980 it would have 01:02:12.980 --> 01:02:13.660 recognized the 01:02:13.660 --> 01:02:14.540 registry keys on a 01:02:14.540 --> 01:02:15.240 remote machine. 01:02:16.100 --> 01:02:16.880 But, anyway, that 01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:18.080 being said, the 01:02:18.080 --> 01:02:19.620 scan finished, I 01:02:19.620 --> 01:02:20.360 think it took a 01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:21.060 little over half an 01:02:21.060 --> 01:02:22.160 hour, scanned 01:02:22.160 --> 01:02:22.980 memory, of course, 01:02:23.520 --> 01:02:25.340 24,000 files checked, 01:02:25.780 --> 01:02:26.660 again, including the 01:02:26.660 --> 01:02:27.780 file server with tons 01:02:27.780 --> 01:02:29.280 of miscellaneous files 01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:30.320 and downloaded and 01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:31.200 et cetera, et cetera, 01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:33.400 source code, 8,700 01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:36.440 registry keys, and you 01:02:36.440 --> 01:02:37.460 know how much spyware 01:02:37.460 --> 01:02:37.920 it found? 01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:39.800 Zero. 01:02:40.600 --> 01:02:41.660 It didn't find a 01:02:41.660 --> 01:02:43.400 single damn thing. 01:02:43.400 --> 01:02:45.360 Now, I'm very careful 01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:46.320 about downloading and 01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:47.080 installing stuff. 01:02:47.180 --> 01:02:49.180 I'm not, you know, but 01:02:49.180 --> 01:02:50.160 surely there was 01:02:50.160 --> 01:02:50.700 something. 01:02:50.900 --> 01:02:52.120 I mean, I expected to 01:02:52.120 --> 01:02:53.000 see at least a few 01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:53.500 things. 01:02:54.080 --> 01:02:55.260 Some browser height, 01:02:55.380 --> 01:02:56.140 something had to be 01:02:56.140 --> 01:02:57.440 somewhere in the cache 01:02:57.440 --> 01:02:59.200 or control somewhere 01:02:59.200 --> 01:02:59.780 that I missed. 01:02:59.860 --> 01:03:00.520 There had to have been 01:03:00.520 --> 01:03:00.840 something. 01:03:01.120 --> 01:03:02.620 It found zero. 01:03:02.620 --> 01:03:08.020 I just, either it 01:03:08.020 --> 01:03:10.580 sucks or I'm damn 01:03:10.580 --> 01:03:11.260 good at avoiding 01:03:11.260 --> 01:03:11.880 spyware. 01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:13.760 Careful with your 01:03:13.760 --> 01:03:14.360 porn, eh? 01:03:14.600 --> 01:03:15.380 Yeah, I mean, and 01:03:15.380 --> 01:03:16.300 I am, wait a minute, 01:03:16.340 --> 01:03:16.960 don't get me wrong, I 01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:17.640 am damn good at 01:03:17.640 --> 01:03:18.640 avoiding spyware, but 01:03:18.640 --> 01:03:20.260 nobody, there has to 01:03:20.260 --> 01:03:20.860 have been some. 01:03:21.060 --> 01:03:22.180 I just can't believe 01:03:22.180 --> 01:03:22.580 for a minute. 01:03:22.980 --> 01:03:23.680 I actually, what I 01:03:23.680 --> 01:03:24.960 probably should do is 01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:25.980 run AdAware and see 01:03:25.980 --> 01:03:26.820 if it finds anything 01:03:26.820 --> 01:03:27.180 now. 01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:28.800 I should have done 01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:29.660 that for the sake of 01:03:29.660 --> 01:03:29.980 a test. 01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:31.020 And I think someone's 01:03:31.020 --> 01:03:31.720 done that online 01:03:31.720 --> 01:03:31.940 already. 01:03:32.020 --> 01:03:33.760 There was a link 01:03:33.760 --> 01:03:34.660 somewhere that I came 01:03:34.660 --> 01:03:35.620 across of somebody who 01:03:35.620 --> 01:03:37.560 compared them, and I 01:03:37.560 --> 01:03:38.360 think his comparison, 01:03:38.540 --> 01:03:39.160 however, said that 01:03:39.160 --> 01:03:40.020 Microsoft did pretty 01:03:40.020 --> 01:03:40.500 well. 01:03:41.960 --> 01:03:44.800 I think I might have 01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:46.160 to do this for a 01:03:46.160 --> 01:03:47.300 scientific study now 01:03:47.300 --> 01:03:48.020 and see if AdAware 01:03:48.020 --> 01:03:49.080 picks up anything on 01:03:49.080 --> 01:03:50.300 this system that 01:03:50.300 --> 01:03:51.220 Microsoft says there 01:03:51.220 --> 01:03:52.100 is no spyware on. 01:03:52.160 --> 01:03:52.540 See what the 01:03:52.540 --> 01:03:53.100 difference is. 01:03:55.380 --> 01:03:56.160 All right, I'll put 01:03:56.160 --> 01:03:56.800 that on my to-do 01:03:56.800 --> 01:03:57.040 list. 01:03:57.080 --> 01:03:57.500 What do you think? 01:03:58.860 --> 01:03:59.420 Do it. 01:04:00.420 --> 01:04:00.920 All right. 01:04:01.020 --> 01:04:01.680 I was focusing on 01:04:01.680 --> 01:04:02.260 a hot brunette who 01:04:02.260 --> 01:04:02.880 just walked by. 01:04:03.180 --> 01:04:04.140 Ooh, hey now. 01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:04.880 You want to get her 01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:05.300 on the show? 01:04:07.040 --> 01:04:08.440 I will try. 01:04:08.740 --> 01:04:09.300 Hey, baby. 01:04:09.300 --> 01:04:09.420 It's gone. 01:04:10.040 --> 01:04:10.880 Aw, man. 01:04:11.640 --> 01:04:12.480 Hey, baby. 01:04:14.100 --> 01:04:14.760 Come to 01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:15.180 butthead. 01:04:17.420 --> 01:04:18.040 Let's see. 01:04:18.100 --> 01:04:18.880 What else about this 01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:19.500 thing that I want to 01:04:19.500 --> 01:04:19.820 mention? 01:04:20.620 --> 01:04:22.060 Oh, it comes with a 01:04:22.060 --> 01:04:22.760 system explorer. 01:04:22.860 --> 01:04:24.180 It's got, under the 01:04:24.180 --> 01:04:25.620 advanced tab, it has 01:04:25.620 --> 01:04:26.200 something called a 01:04:26.200 --> 01:04:28.020 system explorer that 01:04:28.020 --> 01:04:28.760 gives you a lot of 01:04:28.760 --> 01:04:29.860 cool information about 01:04:29.860 --> 01:04:31.880 your system, a lot 01:04:31.880 --> 01:04:32.500 more detail. 01:04:32.700 --> 01:04:34.720 It's kind of like your 01:04:34.720 --> 01:04:36.220 computer management tab 01:04:36.220 --> 01:04:36.840 but it's a little bit 01:04:36.840 --> 01:04:38.580 more detail in that it 01:04:38.580 --> 01:04:40.240 looks at processes that 01:04:40.240 --> 01:04:41.060 are running in memory, 01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:42.460 tells you not only the 01:04:42.460 --> 01:04:43.560 name of the EXE that's 01:04:43.560 --> 01:04:44.620 running but who made 01:04:44.620 --> 01:04:46.500 it, some of the 01:04:46.500 --> 01:04:48.000 properties of it, some 01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:50.540 of the system properties 01:04:50.540 --> 01:04:51.520 that you might not be 01:04:51.520 --> 01:04:52.480 able to see otherwise. 01:04:52.700 --> 01:04:53.820 That was kind of handy, 01:04:53.920 --> 01:04:54.480 kind of cool. 01:04:55.060 --> 01:04:55.840 Tells you all the 01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:56.740 processes that you 01:04:56.740 --> 01:04:57.820 have set to start up 01:04:57.820 --> 01:04:58.900 with a computer upon 01:04:58.900 --> 01:05:00.240 boot, tells you the 01:05:00.240 --> 01:05:00.880 name, the same 01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:01.660 information, where 01:05:01.660 --> 01:05:02.520 they're starting from, 01:05:02.580 --> 01:05:03.700 whether they're in the 01:05:03.700 --> 01:05:05.840 startup menu, whether 01:05:05.840 --> 01:05:06.880 they're a service that 01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:08.000 gets started up, etc., 01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:09.420 etc., and who and what 01:05:09.420 --> 01:05:10.360 makes them, etc., 01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:11.040 things like that. 01:05:11.600 --> 01:05:13.180 It's got, tells you 01:05:13.180 --> 01:05:14.220 any shell hooks that 01:05:14.220 --> 01:05:15.020 may be going on, which 01:05:15.020 --> 01:05:15.700 is another thing that 01:05:15.700 --> 01:05:16.780 spyware does sometimes. 01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:18.120 It'll associate files 01:05:18.120 --> 01:05:20.660 with the spyware or 01:05:20.660 --> 01:05:21.640 Trojan application or 01:05:21.640 --> 01:05:22.560 whatever, so it'll give 01:05:22.560 --> 01:05:24.100 you a way to look at all 01:05:24.100 --> 01:05:25.240 the program associations 01:05:25.240 --> 01:05:25.960 and make sure that 01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:26.800 they all look great. 01:05:28.260 --> 01:05:29.980 And it gives you a list 01:05:29.980 --> 01:05:30.940 of all your IE 01:05:30.940 --> 01:05:33.120 plugins, because I 01:05:33.120 --> 01:05:33.940 know how many people 01:05:33.940 --> 01:05:35.340 love to have plugins 01:05:35.340 --> 01:05:35.880 for their Internet 01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:36.900 Explorer and how safe 01:05:36.900 --> 01:05:37.380 that is. 01:05:38.120 --> 01:05:39.100 So it'll show you all 01:05:39.100 --> 01:05:40.220 the IE plugins and 01:05:40.220 --> 01:05:41.440 their status and who 01:05:41.440 --> 01:05:42.860 made them and etc., 01:05:42.860 --> 01:05:43.780 etc., so you can check 01:05:43.780 --> 01:05:45.420 those out, and any 01:05:45.420 --> 01:05:47.660 other settings in IE 01:05:47.660 --> 01:05:48.200 that could have been 01:05:48.200 --> 01:05:48.920 hijacked, because you 01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:49.580 know, one of the 01:05:49.580 --> 01:05:50.460 things that I see more 01:05:50.460 --> 01:05:51.260 frequently and I get 01:05:51.260 --> 01:05:52.280 more people ask me 01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:53.840 about than anything is, 01:05:54.100 --> 01:05:55.440 oh, I can't, every 01:05:55.440 --> 01:05:56.200 time I start in an 01:05:56.200 --> 01:05:57.440 Explorer, I get porn on 01:05:57.440 --> 01:05:57.920 the screen. 01:05:58.560 --> 01:05:59.600 Well, A, stay away from 01:05:59.600 --> 01:06:00.020 the porn. 01:06:00.420 --> 01:06:02.020 Listen, porn is like a 01:06:02.020 --> 01:06:02.200 gun. 01:06:02.260 --> 01:06:03.200 If you can't use it 01:06:03.200 --> 01:06:04.340 properly, stay away from 01:06:04.340 --> 01:06:04.500 it. 01:06:04.900 --> 01:06:06.040 Wait, wait, people don't 01:06:06.040 --> 01:06:07.000 want porn to show up 01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:07.840 when they open up in an 01:06:07.840 --> 01:06:08.160 Explorer? 01:06:08.560 --> 01:06:09.440 Apparently not, when 01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:10.380 they have, like, wives 01:06:10.380 --> 01:06:11.600 and kids and things. 01:06:12.140 --> 01:06:13.080 That's baffling. 01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:14.540 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's 01:06:14.540 --> 01:06:14.940 amazing. 01:06:15.040 --> 01:06:16.080 Who doesn't want porn? 01:06:16.620 --> 01:06:18.000 No, porn is like a 01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:18.200 weapon. 01:06:18.300 --> 01:06:19.300 If you can't use it 01:06:19.300 --> 01:06:20.780 properly, if you can't 01:06:20.780 --> 01:06:21.280 handle the 01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:23.200 responsibility, just stay 01:06:23.200 --> 01:06:23.740 away from it. 01:06:23.820 --> 01:06:24.420 Leave it to the 01:06:24.420 --> 01:06:25.880 experts, like me. 01:06:26.040 --> 01:06:27.240 I am the prawn expert. 01:06:27.440 --> 01:06:29.040 Stank dog, your prawn 01:06:29.040 --> 01:06:29.460 expert. 01:06:29.620 --> 01:06:30.300 Thank you very much. 01:06:31.900 --> 01:06:34.740 So, it tells you about 01:06:34.740 --> 01:06:35.420 things like that, 01:06:35.480 --> 01:06:36.000 something that could 01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:36.680 have been hijacked, 01:06:36.740 --> 01:06:37.660 like pages or your 01:06:37.660 --> 01:06:38.980 search page, etc., etc. 01:06:38.980 --> 01:06:40.880 It has one of those, I 01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:41.500 don't know if there's a 01:06:41.500 --> 01:06:42.260 term for this, but the 01:06:42.260 --> 01:06:44.280 clean your tracks option 01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:45.140 where it's like the thing 01:06:45.140 --> 01:06:46.740 that says clean up your 01:06:46.740 --> 01:06:48.820 most recent files or last 01:06:48.820 --> 01:06:50.160 open stuff and things like 01:06:50.160 --> 01:06:50.520 that. 01:06:51.860 --> 01:06:54.580 And the history of items, 01:06:54.720 --> 01:06:56.240 I don't even want to know. 01:06:56.240 --> 01:06:56.800 Something about Microsoft 01:06:56.800 --> 01:06:57.940 cleaning up after you're 01:06:57.940 --> 01:06:59.020 looking at porn and stuff. 01:06:59.100 --> 01:06:59.320 Yeah. 01:06:59.320 --> 01:07:02.040 That is pretty good, isn't 01:07:02.040 --> 01:07:02.320 it? 01:07:02.780 --> 01:07:03.880 It's got to cover, well, I 01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:04.740 mean, like, you know, in 01:07:04.740 --> 01:07:05.920 the history of your most 01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:06.920 recent application, your 01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:08.620 recent documents, etc., etc., 01:07:08.620 --> 01:07:09.280 which, yeah, it's going to 01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:09.840 show your porn. 01:07:10.720 --> 01:07:11.880 A little robotic arm pops 01:07:11.880 --> 01:07:12.740 out of your keyboard with 01:07:12.740 --> 01:07:13.220 a tissue. 01:07:14.140 --> 01:07:15.340 That might be, I think 01:07:15.340 --> 01:07:16.300 that's in, this is beta 01:07:16.300 --> 01:07:16.580 still. 01:07:16.640 --> 01:07:17.180 You've got to wait for the 01:07:17.180 --> 01:07:18.660 final issue for that one, 01:07:18.820 --> 01:07:20.340 or final version for that 01:07:20.340 --> 01:07:20.500 one. 01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:22.320 Yeah, I'll release it too 01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:22.800 soon, huh? 01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:24.300 Yeah, basically all of this 01:07:24.300 --> 01:07:26.400 stuff, all of these things 01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:27.580 anyway, and actually all of 01:07:27.580 --> 01:07:28.460 it all together, the whole 01:07:28.460 --> 01:07:29.960 package, stuff that's been 01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:31.580 freeware, freely available 01:07:31.580 --> 01:07:32.900 with freeware, open source 01:07:32.900 --> 01:07:34.640 stuff for years and years 01:07:34.640 --> 01:07:34.940 now. 01:07:34.940 --> 01:07:36.760 And, yeah, and actually 01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:37.680 the part that makes me 01:07:37.680 --> 01:07:38.840 laugh is when you sit back 01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:41.340 and think about this, all 01:07:41.340 --> 01:07:42.140 of this stuff is useful, 01:07:42.140 --> 01:07:42.900 don't get me wrong, it's 01:07:42.900 --> 01:07:44.200 all kind of neat, it's good, 01:07:44.520 --> 01:07:45.940 but isn't it just ironic, 01:07:46.120 --> 01:07:47.780 it's just so funny that it's 01:07:47.780 --> 01:07:50.320 a Microsoft tool that shows 01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:52.360 you how fucked up Microsoft 01:07:52.360 --> 01:07:53.920 products made your system. 01:07:55.280 --> 01:07:56.460 I mean, what am I missing 01:07:56.460 --> 01:07:56.800 here? 01:07:57.240 --> 01:07:58.700 Oh, Microsoft screwed up my 01:07:58.700 --> 01:07:59.940 system, I need to download a 01:07:59.940 --> 01:08:00.580 tool to fix it. 01:08:00.640 --> 01:08:01.480 Where am I going to download 01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:01.880 it from? 01:08:02.080 --> 01:08:03.000 Hey, I'll get it from 01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:03.400 Microsoft! 01:08:04.940 --> 01:08:06.840 What the hell, you know? 01:08:08.100 --> 01:08:09.480 Anyway, I thought that was 01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:10.940 kind of ironic, but anyway, 01:08:11.060 --> 01:08:13.540 that's a little review of the 01:08:13.540 --> 01:08:15.580 anti-spyware tool and more to 01:08:15.580 --> 01:08:17.680 the point, the genuine program. 01:08:18.440 --> 01:08:19.300 It's worthless. 01:08:19.480 --> 01:08:21.140 I mean, I mentioned several 01:08:21.140 --> 01:08:23.120 flaws in the way it works, how 01:08:23.120 --> 01:08:23.900 silly it is. 01:08:24.820 --> 01:08:27.260 Don't, just because it doesn't 01:08:27.260 --> 01:08:28.840 exactly work or it doesn't have 01:08:28.840 --> 01:08:29.900 certain things you don't care 01:08:29.900 --> 01:08:32.460 about, don't blindly go through 01:08:32.460 --> 01:08:33.400 with it just for the hell of 01:08:33.400 --> 01:08:34.680 it, I did it for the sake of 01:08:34.680 --> 01:08:36.680 testing it out for everybody 01:08:36.680 --> 01:08:37.840 and because I have it on a 01:08:37.840 --> 01:08:38.940 box that I really don't care 01:08:38.940 --> 01:08:41.120 about over there, so I still 01:08:41.120 --> 01:08:42.320 would not suggest people go 01:08:42.320 --> 01:08:43.820 through this, don't go through 01:08:43.820 --> 01:08:45.500 this genuine stuff, screw them, 01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:46.460 they don't need any more 01:08:46.460 --> 01:08:47.400 information on you. 01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:48.600 Don't do it. 01:08:49.280 --> 01:08:50.980 Do what I said, I suggest go to 01:08:50.980 --> 01:08:52.240 a friend's house, go to a 01:08:52.240 --> 01:08:54.040 library, go to a university, go to 01:08:54.040 --> 01:08:56.100 a school, go to a, go to the 01:08:56.100 --> 01:08:58.440 Walmart kiosk for God's sake if 01:08:58.440 --> 01:08:59.020 you have to. 01:08:59.020 --> 01:09:00.560 And ironically, how funny would 01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:02.320 it be if you busted Walmart 01:09:02.320 --> 01:09:03.940 using a bootleg copy of 01:09:03.940 --> 01:09:04.980 Windows in the process? 01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:06.840 That would be sweet. 01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:09.740 Go, go war shitting and out 01:09:09.740 --> 01:09:12.120 somebody's network reporting 01:09:12.120 --> 01:09:14.880 their stuff and download it and 01:09:14.880 --> 01:09:16.100 then take it home and install it. 01:09:16.120 --> 01:09:17.260 So that way they don't have you 01:09:17.260 --> 01:09:18.140 on database, you didn't 01:09:18.140 --> 01:09:19.700 register, screw Microsoft. 01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:23.520 All right, well, let's see, I 01:09:23.520 --> 01:09:24.880 think we've got a pretty full 01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:25.420 show. 01:09:25.420 --> 01:09:27.820 Uh, yeah, we're going good and 01:09:27.820 --> 01:09:28.960 we've got some things to talk 01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:30.200 about here at the end of the 01:09:30.200 --> 01:09:30.580 show. 01:09:31.240 --> 01:09:32.460 Uh, unless you had anything else 01:09:32.460 --> 01:09:33.620 to add, I mean, I think we 01:09:33.620 --> 01:09:34.980 pretty much beat into the 01:09:34.980 --> 01:09:37.160 ground how pathetic Microsoft 01:09:37.160 --> 01:09:38.920 is in general and it's 01:09:38.920 --> 01:09:39.920 particularly with this 01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:41.160 application. 01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:44.740 Which, the application itself is 01:09:44.740 --> 01:09:46.760 actually, is not so awful bad, 01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:47.980 it's just ironic. 01:09:47.980 --> 01:09:56.460 So, let's go to the shouts 01:09:56.460 --> 01:09:56.880 first. 01:09:56.960 --> 01:09:58.180 Let's give some shout outs. 01:09:59.100 --> 01:10:00.620 And I need a breath, so why 01:10:00.620 --> 01:10:01.620 don't you do the shout outs? 01:10:02.380 --> 01:10:03.920 All right, first for me, um, 01:10:04.060 --> 01:10:05.900 shouts to whoever developed this 01:10:05.900 --> 01:10:08.220 new, um, what the hell is it 01:10:08.220 --> 01:10:08.500 called? 01:10:09.260 --> 01:10:11.340 Uh, Chameleon browser thing? 01:10:12.280 --> 01:10:13.240 I don't know if some of you 01:10:13.240 --> 01:10:13.760 read Flash. 01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:15.540 Uh, check that out. 01:10:15.540 --> 01:10:16.760 I don't know if that's really 01:10:16.760 --> 01:10:19.380 a shout or a tipping their 01:10:19.380 --> 01:10:22.160 site, but it's K-M-E-L-I-O-N 01:10:22.160 --> 01:10:23.380 or I-A-N. 01:10:24.040 --> 01:10:25.020 It's a pretty cool browser. 01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:27.500 Um, shout out to everybody on 01:10:27.500 --> 01:10:28.440 the forums, obviously. 01:10:28.940 --> 01:10:30.380 Uh, shout out to anybody who 01:10:30.380 --> 01:10:31.600 makes it to Interzone to 01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:33.100 entertain my drunken ass. 01:10:33.260 --> 01:10:34.520 Oh, that's going to be good. 01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:37.160 You'll get extra shouts when 01:10:37.160 --> 01:10:38.300 you actually entertain my 01:10:38.300 --> 01:10:39.480 drunken ass, but for now. 01:10:39.900 --> 01:10:43.380 Well, so you play your cards, 01:10:43.440 --> 01:10:43.580 right? 01:10:43.580 --> 01:10:44.680 You just might be entertained 01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:45.380 there, buddy boy. 01:10:46.260 --> 01:10:47.840 Bow-chicka-bow-bow-bow. 01:10:48.620 --> 01:10:49.380 Oh, God. 01:10:50.120 --> 01:10:51.720 We'll make some snow cones! 01:10:53.320 --> 01:10:54.600 Oh, that's an old reference. 01:10:54.740 --> 01:10:55.560 Anybody who's been listening 01:10:55.560 --> 01:10:56.860 to the show for a long time 01:10:56.860 --> 01:10:57.800 might get that reference. 01:10:58.660 --> 01:10:59.560 That's an old one. 01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:01.720 Oh, okay. 01:11:02.120 --> 01:11:04.880 Um, I guess I will add... 01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:05.760 I'm sorry, were you finished? 01:11:06.520 --> 01:11:06.900 I'm done. 01:11:07.100 --> 01:11:07.320 Okay. 01:11:07.320 --> 01:11:09.080 I will give shout outs to 01:11:09.080 --> 01:11:10.460 Slicko, Slick Zero, 01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:11.300 excuse me, 01:11:12.120 --> 01:11:13.960 for giving us a cool mention 01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:14.640 on Off the Hook. 01:11:14.740 --> 01:11:15.800 Somebody mentioned it in the 01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:16.540 email earlier. 01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:17.340 They found out about us 01:11:17.340 --> 01:11:17.860 through Off the Hook. 01:11:18.420 --> 01:11:20.120 So, uh, shouts to Slick Zero 01:11:20.120 --> 01:11:21.260 for giving us a mention. 01:11:21.500 --> 01:11:23.380 Good mention of, of obviously 01:11:23.380 --> 01:11:25.340 his show and our radio station. 01:11:25.700 --> 01:11:26.220 Very cool. 01:11:26.320 --> 01:11:27.180 Thank you for doing that. 01:11:27.660 --> 01:11:28.780 Uh, shout outs to Jaga. 01:11:29.620 --> 01:11:29.940 Jaja. 01:11:30.140 --> 01:11:31.000 I'm going to call him Jaga. 01:11:31.080 --> 01:11:32.020 Everybody calls him Jaga. 01:11:32.080 --> 01:11:32.840 I'm going with Jaga. 01:11:33.160 --> 01:11:33.960 I don't care how he wants 01:11:33.960 --> 01:11:34.500 to pronounce it. 01:11:34.660 --> 01:11:34.980 Jaga. 01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:36.360 Shouts to him. 01:11:36.440 --> 01:11:36.980 I talked to him. 01:11:37.180 --> 01:11:37.820 I haven't talked to him 01:11:37.820 --> 01:11:38.600 since Hope. 01:11:38.780 --> 01:11:39.860 And we had a good long talk 01:11:39.860 --> 01:11:40.940 today with some cool stuff. 01:11:41.820 --> 01:11:43.880 Um, and I guess a good luck 01:11:43.880 --> 01:11:44.940 here to Grokster. 01:11:45.600 --> 01:11:48.060 March 29th, they will be facing 01:11:48.060 --> 01:11:49.680 the Supreme Court of the 01:11:49.680 --> 01:11:51.620 United States for a decision 01:11:51.620 --> 01:11:53.160 on the liability of content 01:11:53.160 --> 01:11:55.560 on peer-to-peer file services. 01:11:56.600 --> 01:11:58.040 So, shouts to them. 01:11:58.220 --> 01:11:59.140 Good luck to them. 01:11:59.320 --> 01:12:00.540 This is a very big thing. 01:12:00.620 --> 01:12:01.240 Very important. 01:12:02.300 --> 01:12:04.100 We don't do politics much 01:12:04.100 --> 01:12:05.120 on this show, so I'll just 01:12:05.120 --> 01:12:06.300 tell everybody to go read up 01:12:06.300 --> 01:12:06.760 on that. 01:12:06.920 --> 01:12:08.740 It's a very, very important 01:12:08.740 --> 01:12:08.980 thing. 01:12:09.040 --> 01:12:09.700 It's a big event. 01:12:10.180 --> 01:12:11.360 And quite simply, it's going 01:12:11.360 --> 01:12:12.340 to determine the future 01:12:12.340 --> 01:12:13.400 of peer-to-peer application 01:12:13.400 --> 01:12:14.380 on the internet, at least 01:12:14.380 --> 01:12:15.340 for the United States. 01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:17.360 It's a big deal, so please 01:12:17.360 --> 01:12:18.080 read up on that. 01:12:19.060 --> 01:12:20.760 Um, email us, of course, 01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:23.140 radio at binrev.com. 01:12:23.160 --> 01:12:28.160 Um, and, I guess it's time 01:12:28.160 --> 01:12:30.980 for our big announcement. 01:12:33.180 --> 01:12:35.160 And, that announcement is 01:12:35.160 --> 01:12:37.160 that... 01:12:37.160 --> 01:12:38.740 Thanksgiving and sex change 01:12:38.740 --> 01:12:39.640 on March 2nd. 01:12:40.300 --> 01:12:41.360 Oh, man. 01:12:41.780 --> 01:12:43.220 I was going to tease, I was 01:12:43.220 --> 01:12:44.300 going to drag it out a little 01:12:44.300 --> 01:12:45.060 bit first. 01:12:45.640 --> 01:12:46.560 I was going to say, I was 01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:47.460 going to make it into a joke 01:12:47.460 --> 01:12:48.460 and say I was coming back 01:12:48.460 --> 01:12:50.660 as, like, stankina? 01:12:50.840 --> 01:12:51.960 I don't know how to, I can't 01:12:51.960 --> 01:12:52.480 make that work. 01:12:53.160 --> 01:12:55.500 Uh, uh, no. 01:12:55.620 --> 01:12:57.600 Actually, the announcement 01:12:57.600 --> 01:12:58.960 is going to be that, 01:12:59.200 --> 01:13:00.620 effective today, this is going 01:13:00.620 --> 01:13:01.980 to be my last episode for a 01:13:01.980 --> 01:13:02.300 while. 01:13:03.120 --> 01:13:04.540 This is not the last episode 01:13:04.540 --> 01:13:05.980 of Binary Revolution Radio. 01:13:06.600 --> 01:13:08.260 Binary Revolution Radio will 01:13:08.260 --> 01:13:09.600 be back again next week. 01:13:10.480 --> 01:13:12.080 But, I will not be hosting the 01:13:12.080 --> 01:13:12.360 show. 01:13:12.520 --> 01:13:14.600 I'm going to be off for the 01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:16.360 next, at least the next month. 01:13:16.700 --> 01:13:17.740 At least the next month. 01:13:17.740 --> 01:13:19.240 Possibly a little bit longer. 01:13:19.800 --> 01:13:21.540 I'm going to be taking care of 01:13:21.540 --> 01:13:22.020 some things. 01:13:22.080 --> 01:13:23.300 Like I mentioned earlier, I've 01:13:23.300 --> 01:13:24.440 just got a lot of stuff going 01:13:24.440 --> 01:13:24.820 on. 01:13:25.240 --> 01:13:26.600 We've been dropping a lot of 01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:27.520 projects lately. 01:13:28.060 --> 01:13:29.960 DDP Hack Radio up and running. 01:13:30.160 --> 01:13:31.440 Dock Droppers up and running. 01:13:31.540 --> 01:13:33.380 A couple more products, projects, 01:13:33.460 --> 01:13:34.520 excuse me, that are going to be 01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:36.700 up and running very soon to put 01:13:36.700 --> 01:13:37.740 the finishing touches on. 01:13:37.820 --> 01:13:38.900 We're changing hosts. 01:13:39.360 --> 01:13:40.740 I'm working on, I got, we put 01:13:40.740 --> 01:13:42.380 Pwned, a special episode up. 01:13:42.380 --> 01:13:44.260 I got Hack TV 2 coming up. 01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:45.780 Got to get working on the 01:13:45.780 --> 01:13:46.160 magazine. 01:13:46.360 --> 01:13:48.220 It's just, I've got to step back 01:13:48.220 --> 01:13:49.480 a little bit and try to get 01:13:49.480 --> 01:13:50.560 some of these things done. 01:13:50.980 --> 01:13:52.740 As well as, more importantly, 01:13:53.400 --> 01:13:54.440 you know, I've always said on 01:13:54.440 --> 01:13:55.800 the show that real life is more 01:13:55.800 --> 01:13:56.880 important as well and I've got 01:13:56.880 --> 01:13:58.040 some real life things to take 01:13:58.040 --> 01:13:58.400 care of. 01:13:59.560 --> 01:14:01.340 Take care of my well-being, for 01:14:01.340 --> 01:14:02.220 lack of a better term. 01:14:02.320 --> 01:14:03.600 So, I'm going to step away for a 01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:04.680 little while and I'm going to 01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:07.520 turn the show over to my current 01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:08.680 co-host, Voodoo Hal. 01:14:09.540 --> 01:14:10.320 So, please. 01:14:10.320 --> 01:14:11.420 It's both going to change as we 01:14:11.420 --> 01:14:11.820 know it. 01:14:12.920 --> 01:14:15.000 Please, continue listening to 01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:16.060 the show, obviously. 01:14:17.140 --> 01:14:18.640 Continue sending emails to the 01:14:18.640 --> 01:14:19.600 same address, radio at 01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:20.420 BinRev.com. 01:14:20.480 --> 01:14:21.460 Nothing's going to change as 01:14:21.460 --> 01:14:22.320 far as that goes. 01:14:22.700 --> 01:14:24.540 We'll still be on Tuesdays at 01:14:24.540 --> 01:14:26.100 8.30 p.m. Eastern. 01:14:26.340 --> 01:14:27.720 I'm sorry, 9.30 p.m. Eastern? 01:14:28.360 --> 01:14:29.520 9.30, I don't know. 01:14:29.640 --> 01:14:31.600 I'm on 9.30 p.m. Eastern. 01:14:32.360 --> 01:14:33.140 Does that sound right? 01:14:33.280 --> 01:14:34.560 I don't even know when we're on 01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:34.820 anymore. 01:14:34.920 --> 01:14:36.160 That's why I need a vacation. 01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:37.820 That's why I need a break. 01:14:38.620 --> 01:14:40.100 Anyway, Tuesdays. 01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:41.980 Still be coming on every 01:14:41.980 --> 01:14:42.540 Tuesday. 01:14:43.660 --> 01:14:44.540 Voodoo Hal is still going to 01:14:44.540 --> 01:14:46.600 have a similar format. 01:14:46.740 --> 01:14:47.580 Nothing's going to change as 01:14:47.580 --> 01:14:48.240 far as that goes. 01:14:48.320 --> 01:14:49.240 Still send in your email, 01:14:49.400 --> 01:14:50.480 your questions, your feedback, 01:14:50.600 --> 01:14:52.780 even for this show, any of the 01:14:52.780 --> 01:14:53.500 past shows. 01:14:54.040 --> 01:14:56.040 I will be around and available 01:14:56.040 --> 01:14:58.820 for the most part, but probably 01:14:58.820 --> 01:14:59.800 should be addressing your 01:14:59.800 --> 01:15:00.340 emails. 01:15:00.540 --> 01:15:02.320 Dear Voodoo Hal, how is that 01:15:02.320 --> 01:15:02.700 going to be? 01:15:02.700 --> 01:15:04.120 Oh, boy. 01:15:04.160 --> 01:15:04.920 That's going to be fun. 01:15:06.120 --> 01:15:07.420 So, yeah, everyone address your 01:15:07.420 --> 01:15:08.800 emails like that because I'll use 01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:10.060 a filter that sends it straight 01:15:10.060 --> 01:15:10.660 and I'll wait. 01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:10.980 Sorry. 01:15:11.900 --> 01:15:12.700 Kill file. 01:15:13.580 --> 01:15:15.260 So, no, and actually joking, you 01:15:15.260 --> 01:15:17.160 know, joking aside, I mean, you've 01:15:17.160 --> 01:15:18.100 been on the show a lot. 01:15:18.400 --> 01:15:20.480 People, we know that you can, you 01:15:20.480 --> 01:15:21.640 know the content, you know what 01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:22.420 you're talking about. 01:15:22.720 --> 01:15:24.700 Joking aside, you perfectly, you're 01:15:24.700 --> 01:15:25.700 going to do a better job at this 01:15:25.700 --> 01:15:26.200 than I am. 01:15:26.260 --> 01:15:27.200 That's the short version. 01:15:27.600 --> 01:15:28.740 You're going to do better at this 01:15:28.740 --> 01:15:29.100 than me. 01:15:29.100 --> 01:15:30.480 People are tired of hearing from 01:15:30.480 --> 01:15:32.180 me anyway, so it's a good break 01:15:32.180 --> 01:15:33.240 for the listeners to get a 01:15:33.240 --> 01:15:34.840 different point of view, different 01:15:34.840 --> 01:15:36.100 content, et cetera, et cetera. 01:15:36.200 --> 01:15:37.180 So, it's going to work good all 01:15:37.180 --> 01:15:39.200 the way around and hopefully 01:15:39.200 --> 01:15:40.600 something we'll do more often in 01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:41.820 the future so that we all get 01:15:41.820 --> 01:15:44.120 breaks and take turns talking 01:15:44.120 --> 01:15:45.340 about what we want to talk about 01:15:45.340 --> 01:15:46.920 and hopefully this will be setting 01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:49.460 a trend for the future of the 01:15:49.460 --> 01:15:49.740 show. 01:15:50.700 --> 01:15:52.360 I will have to warn everyone, the 01:15:52.360 --> 01:15:54.100 gratuitous cursing will probably 01:15:54.100 --> 01:15:56.320 continue because as Pink knows, I 01:15:56.320 --> 01:15:57.080 really don't care. 01:15:57.220 --> 01:15:58.980 Yeah, well, I don't really care 01:15:58.980 --> 01:15:59.280 either. 01:15:59.460 --> 01:16:01.260 I don't, or to put it into terms 01:16:01.260 --> 01:16:02.360 people might understand, I don't 01:16:02.360 --> 01:16:03.140 give a fuck. 01:16:03.840 --> 01:16:04.440 There you go. 01:16:04.680 --> 01:16:06.180 I just don't want to make it 01:16:06.180 --> 01:16:07.200 totally gratuitous. 01:16:07.260 --> 01:16:08.560 That's all I've ever said and I 01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:09.800 don't know why it becomes a point 01:16:09.800 --> 01:16:10.580 of controversy. 01:16:11.660 --> 01:16:13.260 You know, it's laugh, it makes me 01:16:13.260 --> 01:16:14.740 laugh every time somebody makes a 01:16:14.740 --> 01:16:17.540 comment or a joke about I'm 01:16:17.540 --> 01:16:18.980 censoring myself or I'm not 01:16:18.980 --> 01:16:20.620 censoring myself enough or why 01:16:20.620 --> 01:16:21.380 does he care? 01:16:21.800 --> 01:16:22.580 Because I do. 01:16:22.720 --> 01:16:23.620 Am I not allowed to make a 01:16:23.620 --> 01:16:25.340 personal decision to try to 01:16:25.340 --> 01:16:26.280 improve my language? 01:16:26.280 --> 01:16:28.740 If I fucking want to, which 01:16:28.740 --> 01:16:29.920 right now I don't fucking care, 01:16:30.060 --> 01:16:32.040 but some episodes I do. 01:16:33.200 --> 01:16:34.340 Is that so wrong? 01:16:34.740 --> 01:16:35.820 Anyway, okay, there you go. 01:16:35.860 --> 01:16:36.960 I can end on a rant. 01:16:37.340 --> 01:16:39.680 I'll end this show with a rant 01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:42.760 that I, I just, I don't get it. 01:16:42.820 --> 01:16:45.080 I don't understand what people 01:16:45.080 --> 01:16:45.840 want, but you know what? 01:16:45.860 --> 01:16:46.960 You can't please everybody. 01:16:47.580 --> 01:16:49.420 You can't please everybody, so 01:16:49.420 --> 01:16:50.820 hopefully you'll have better luck 01:16:50.820 --> 01:16:51.160 and please. 01:16:51.280 --> 01:16:51.980 Probably not going to please 01:16:51.980 --> 01:16:52.360 anyone. 01:16:52.660 --> 01:16:53.540 I was going to say, hopefully 01:16:53.540 --> 01:16:54.840 you'll have better luck than I 01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:55.400 did apparently. 01:16:56.240 --> 01:16:59.180 So, again, seriously people, and 01:16:59.180 --> 01:17:00.460 if you're a new listener on the 01:17:00.460 --> 01:17:02.480 podcast, trust me, you're in very 01:17:02.480 --> 01:17:04.840 good hands and go back and listen 01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:05.660 to past episodes. 01:17:05.780 --> 01:17:07.120 Voodoo House co-hosted the show 01:17:07.120 --> 01:17:09.560 with me many times, too many, I 01:17:09.560 --> 01:17:10.200 couldn't even count. 01:17:10.280 --> 01:17:11.220 I'm sure it's double digits 01:17:11.220 --> 01:17:13.460 probably out of 80 shows, so 01:17:13.460 --> 01:17:15.000 that's quite a bit familiar with 01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:16.380 the show, knows the style and 01:17:16.380 --> 01:17:16.700 everything. 01:17:17.580 --> 01:17:19.260 So, I'm sure everything's going 01:17:19.260 --> 01:17:20.520 to work out fine as far as that 01:17:20.520 --> 01:17:20.780 goes. 01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:23.020 I have no problems with that. 01:17:23.460 --> 01:17:26.000 I also have a friend who's in 01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:27.980 trouble that I need to spend some 01:17:27.980 --> 01:17:30.380 time with on a personal note. 01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:32.760 So, our closing music this week, 01:17:32.800 --> 01:17:35.060 actually, yeah, our closing music 01:17:35.060 --> 01:17:37.380 this week is a song that I've 01:17:37.380 --> 01:17:38.020 played before. 01:17:38.160 --> 01:17:40.000 It's from Zerl, the same person 01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:41.680 who does our opening theme song, 01:17:42.400 --> 01:17:44.740 Z-E-A-R-L, Zerl, and this song 01:17:44.740 --> 01:17:45.900 is called Watch Me. 01:17:45.900 --> 01:17:47.520 If you listen to the lyrics, I 01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:48.500 think it's a very appropriate 01:17:48.500 --> 01:17:50.540 song to end on. 01:17:51.480 --> 01:17:53.900 And, I'm going to give this to 01:17:53.900 --> 01:17:55.840 Decoder, shoutouts to Decoder. 01:17:56.260 --> 01:17:57.080 Hang in there. 01:17:57.740 --> 01:17:58.820 Help is on the way. 01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:00.500 We're doing what we can do, so 01:18:00.500 --> 01:18:01.620 hang in there, man. 01:18:02.480 --> 01:18:05.480 And, Voodoo House, I guess, let's 01:18:05.480 --> 01:18:06.920 just go ahead and jump into it 01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:07.380 now. 01:18:07.740 --> 01:18:09.020 I'm not going to start it. 01:18:09.060 --> 01:18:11.120 It's your show, as of right now, 01:18:11.480 --> 01:18:12.680 starting with the end of Binary 01:18:12.680 --> 01:18:14.460 Revolution Radio, episode 80. 01:18:14.460 --> 01:18:16.240 You can lead us out tonight, 01:18:16.380 --> 01:18:17.580 and I'll finish it up for the 01:18:17.580 --> 01:18:18.220 first time. 01:18:18.860 --> 01:18:19.420 Oh, boy. 01:18:19.480 --> 01:18:20.040 Here we go. 01:18:20.740 --> 01:18:22.080 Everybody, see you next week, 01:18:22.180 --> 01:18:22.920 same hack time. 01:18:24.120 --> 01:18:25.020 How's it going again? 01:18:25.280 --> 01:18:25.840 Oh, yeah, wait a minute. 01:18:26.020 --> 01:18:27.340 Same hack channel. 01:18:27.340 --> 01:18:29.760 Oh, boy. 01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:29.900 Oh, boy. 01:18:32.240 --> 01:18:33.080 Watch me. 01:18:33.620 --> 01:18:34.340 Watch me. 01:18:34.920 --> 01:18:35.760 Watch me. 01:18:36.120 --> 01:18:37.120 Watch me. 01:18:37.420 --> 01:18:39.140 Start a revolution off. 01:18:39.480 --> 01:18:40.120 Watch me. 01:18:40.140 --> 01:18:41.340 Way down your bum. 01:18:41.700 --> 01:18:43.300 Smoke it up and cough. 01:18:43.900 --> 01:18:44.900 Watch me. 01:18:45.240 --> 01:18:47.860 Rush the cocks with a bandana and a 01:18:47.860 --> 01:18:48.760 molotov. 01:18:49.100 --> 01:18:50.040 Watch me. 01:18:50.420 --> 01:18:51.320 Watch me. 01:18:51.480 --> 01:18:53.720 It's time to tear the system down. 01:18:54.220 --> 01:18:55.900 Already white, because you want to 01:18:55.900 --> 01:18:56.960 keep your crowned. 01:18:56.960 --> 01:18:58.060 Change is coming near. 01:18:58.140 --> 01:18:58.980 No more fear. 01:18:59.140 --> 01:19:00.300 Take back these countries, 01:19:00.500 --> 01:19:02.020 these cities, and these towns. 01:19:02.580 --> 01:19:04.260 Demand equality for women, 01:19:04.520 --> 01:19:06.040 and end the class of racism. 01:19:06.280 --> 01:19:06.680 Justice. 01:19:07.140 --> 01:19:09.900 Are you really down to make some change? 01:19:10.020 --> 01:19:10.680 To rearrange? 01:19:10.780 --> 01:19:12.020 It's not so strange. 01:19:12.240 --> 01:19:13.480 This shit is in our range. 01:19:13.600 --> 01:19:15.460 Trade me some death for some happiness. 01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:18.080 Rob the best and give it to the deranged. 01:19:18.480 --> 01:19:19.440 Paying exchanges. 01:19:19.900 --> 01:19:22.240 You got us working for some bullshit wages. 01:19:22.240 --> 01:19:24.400 I'm not paying no more rent for these stages. 01:19:24.680 --> 01:19:27.060 This is the moment in which revolution engages. 01:19:27.420 --> 01:19:28.400 It's time to set it off. 01:19:28.460 --> 01:19:29.740 It's time for war to wage. 01:19:30.120 --> 01:19:31.740 It's time to start a new age. 01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:33.940 Watch me. 01:19:34.280 --> 01:19:35.280 Watch me. 01:19:36.700 --> 01:19:37.780 Watch me. 01:19:38.040 --> 01:19:39.780 Start a revolution off. 01:19:40.120 --> 01:19:40.780 Watch me. 01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:41.980 Way down your bum. 01:19:42.320 --> 01:19:43.820 Smoke it up and cough. 01:19:44.600 --> 01:19:45.540 Watch me. 01:19:45.740 --> 01:19:48.520 Rush the cocks with a bandana and a 01:19:48.520 --> 01:19:49.440 Molotov. 01:19:49.800 --> 01:19:50.660 Watch me. 01:19:51.080 --> 01:19:52.020 Watch me. 01:19:52.120 --> 01:19:55.880 Your concessions are just a joke. 01:19:56.280 --> 01:19:59.000 We learned a lesson when you try to get us with your coke. 01:19:59.340 --> 01:20:01.760 As rights dag burn, we learn. 01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:03.900 Soon your patriot act will provoke. 01:20:04.280 --> 01:20:05.780 Where there's fire, there's smoke. 01:20:06.180 --> 01:20:07.440 Where there's a happy rich person, 01:20:07.540 --> 01:20:08.840 somebody poor getting choked. 01:20:09.140 --> 01:20:11.700 Where there's assassination and covert ops, 01:20:11.940 --> 01:20:13.940 you're going to find the CIA running dope. 01:20:14.200 --> 01:20:15.420 How can there be hope? 01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:16.440 No end. 01:20:16.440 --> 01:20:17.880 It begins in the road. 01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:19.340 Comrade, I see a fork. 01:20:19.620 --> 01:20:21.440 It's time to turn this wheel of time. 01:20:21.720 --> 01:20:23.340 We just need some more torque. 01:20:23.960 --> 01:20:26.780 Can we fight ourselves in this endless sea 01:20:26.780 --> 01:20:29.640 as we bomb so aimlessly like the cork? 01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:31.700 If it had been brought by the stork, 01:20:31.980 --> 01:20:33.500 would you even listen to the truth? 01:20:33.540 --> 01:20:34.680 I'm not so sure. 01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:35.820 Watch me. 01:20:36.220 --> 01:20:37.220 Watch me. 01:20:38.680 --> 01:20:39.760 Watch me. 01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:41.720 Start a revolution off. 01:20:42.060 --> 01:20:42.720 Watch me. 01:20:42.720 --> 01:20:43.920 Way down your bum. 01:20:44.260 --> 01:20:45.880 Smoke it up and cough. 01:20:45.880 --> 01:20:47.460 Watch me. 01:20:47.620 --> 01:20:51.360 Rush the cops with a bandana and a molotov. 01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:52.600 Watch me. 01:20:53.020 --> 01:20:53.960 Watch me. 01:20:54.060 --> 01:20:54.240 Uh. 01:20:54.240 --> 01:20:59.100 We need way more passion and better leaders. 01:20:59.300 --> 01:21:01.520 The ones we got are old-fashioned and greedy. 01:21:02.080 --> 01:21:03.640 Revolution in the streets. 01:21:04.120 --> 01:21:05.840 Solutions is what we seek. 01:21:06.200 --> 01:21:08.060 Collusion with the righteous ones. 01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:10.980 It's an illusion that we won't need a gun. 01:21:11.420 --> 01:21:13.960 We'll use anything we can find to fight this. 01:21:14.320 --> 01:21:16.120 We're on a mission to right this. 01:21:16.260 --> 01:21:17.820 On a path of righteousness. 01:21:18.240 --> 01:21:20.580 You're not on the ground unless you're free. 01:21:20.580 --> 01:21:23.360 You'll never be down till you get political. 01:21:23.620 --> 01:21:23.840 See? 01:21:24.300 --> 01:21:25.560 Words strapped in time. 01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:29.100 Every syllable written to oppose capitalism and it's lying. 01:21:29.660 --> 01:21:31.760 Meritocracy is a joke to me. 01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:35.860 No equality for women, people of color, and the children of poverty. 01:21:35.860 --> 01:21:36.860 Watch me. 01:21:36.860 --> 01:21:37.780 Watch me. 01:21:38.120 --> 01:21:39.120 Watch me. 01:21:40.440 --> 01:21:41.620 Watch me. 01:21:41.940 --> 01:21:43.640 Start a revolution all. 01:21:43.940 --> 01:21:44.680 Watch me. 01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:45.840 Bring out your bum. 01:21:46.180 --> 01:21:47.700 Smoke it up and cough. 01:21:48.240 --> 01:21:49.400 Watch me. 01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:53.300 Rush the cops with a bandana and a molotov. 01:21:53.620 --> 01:21:54.540 Watch me. 01:21:55.000 --> 01:21:55.880 Watch me. 01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:56.180 Uh. 01:21:57.540 --> 01:22:00.400 Watch me bring a corrupt system to its knees. 01:22:00.760 --> 01:22:03.380 Watch me make the capitalists beg and plead. 01:22:03.380 --> 01:22:05.800 Watch me fuck this whole system up. 01:22:05.960 --> 01:22:07.820 Are you going to be down with me or what? 01:22:07.820 --> 01:22:08.820 Watch me.