WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:07.760 This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers 00:07.760 --> 00:12.640 I see in binary, I speak source code 00:12.640 --> 00:16.440 Step on my toes, I'll post a million day pages of you in a fag poem 00:16.440 --> 00:19.140 In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho 00:19.140 --> 00:21.660 Cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold 00:21.660 --> 00:23.440 I was a dick with my 56 00:23.440 --> 00:26.460 Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable 00:26.460 --> 00:28.740 On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo 00:28.740 --> 00:32.460 On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero 00:32.460 --> 00:35.180 In a flash, I'll screw you on burning dreamcast 00:35.180 --> 00:38.380 You need some ISO? Let me through my hard drive rifle 00:38.380 --> 00:40.400 Our exchange you could never stifle 00:40.400 --> 00:43.540 And a digital hug, you just caught the love bug 00:43.540 --> 00:47.560 I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z 00:47.560 --> 00:49.780 Your CG, it's all gonna be free 00:49.780 --> 00:52.080 Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely 00:52.080 --> 00:54.140 You feel that rattle in your bones? 00:54.140 --> 00:56.300 When I tell you we just hacked out Jones 00:56.300 --> 00:58.440 And NASDAQ, leave your pride on your back 00:58.440 --> 01:00.720 Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack 01:00.720 --> 01:03.560 Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack 01:03.560 --> 01:09.720 Welcome to Binary Revolution Radio episode 111 01:09.720 --> 01:12.000 For August 30th, 2005 01:12.000 --> 01:16.040 Black Ratchet is on vacation in Brazil 01:16.040 --> 01:22.220 Um, you know, signing tons of receipts and stamping them 01:22.220 --> 01:27.000 And dealing with mountains of paperwork and ducts 01:27.000 --> 01:29.200 And, uh, squashing bugs 01:29.200 --> 01:32.680 DJ Sub-Zero is our co-host this evening 01:32.680 --> 01:33.860 Hello DJ Sub-Zero 01:33.860 --> 01:35.380 What's happening man? 01:36.060 --> 01:36.760 Not too much 01:36.760 --> 01:40.040 So, tonight's topic is telephony 01:40.040 --> 01:41.820 Past, present and future 01:41.820 --> 01:45.600 This will be one of the more hard technical shows that we've done 01:45.600 --> 01:49.320 It's all been kind of fluff and is this thing on type of stuff up until now 01:49.320 --> 01:52.120 But we're gonna try and do something more technical this week 01:52.120 --> 01:55.740 So, we're going to attempt to take live calls 01:55.740 --> 01:56.900 I've got a number set up 01:56.900 --> 02:00.820 And I'm advertising in the forums and in the IRC channel 02:00.820 --> 02:03.480 For people to call in and ask questions about telephony 02:03.480 --> 02:06.540 Um, I'm not sure how successful this is gonna be 02:06.540 --> 02:09.320 Since we're actually recording the show ahead of time 02:09.320 --> 02:12.040 But, if anyone does show up 02:12.040 --> 02:13.440 Yeah, it could work, it could work 02:13.440 --> 02:15.500 We did it for the ASTRS presentation 02:15.500 --> 02:17.120 So, we'll, uh, we'll give it a shot 02:17.120 --> 02:18.280 Exactly 02:18.280 --> 02:20.060 So, before we get started 02:20.060 --> 02:21.480 Is there anything you want to talk about? 02:21.840 --> 02:22.220 Sub-Zero 02:22.220 --> 02:23.820 Um, no, not right now 02:23.820 --> 02:25.480 I'm good for now 02:25.480 --> 02:26.260 Alright 02:26.260 --> 02:27.020 Cool 02:27.020 --> 02:27.400 Yeah 02:27.400 --> 02:48.880 Our first email is from Hepram 02:48.880 --> 02:50.380 He says 02:50.380 --> 02:51.700 Hey there, Black Ratchet and Strom 02:51.700 --> 02:53.860 I really enjoyed your asterisk talk 02:53.860 --> 02:56.420 That you featured in the most recent episode of Bin Rev Radio 02:56.420 --> 02:59.720 I've been relatively interested in asterisk for a while now 02:59.720 --> 03:02.100 But, up until recently, I haven't had the motivation to get on 03:02.100 --> 03:02.720 Sorry 03:02.720 --> 03:05.760 I haven't had the motivation to get going with VoIP and asterisk 03:05.760 --> 03:10.360 Being in the UK, the VoIP market is definitely less well developed than that of the US 03:10.360 --> 03:16.000 But, after a bit of searching, I've managed to find some providers which outwardly support the use of asterisk 03:16.000 --> 03:18.980 I'm downloading asterisk right now and playing around with it 03:18.980 --> 03:21.260 Aside from that, I have a comment to make 03:21.260 --> 03:26.760 Due to the very nature of a presentation, there is too much information included to be covered properly by show notes 03:26.760 --> 03:32.820 So I'm requesting that the openoffice.org presentation file, or a PDF of it, be put up somewhere for public consumption 03:32.820 --> 03:35.420 Sorry if it's already up and I've just overlooked it 03:35.420 --> 03:37.200 Keep up the good work, Hepram 03:37.200 --> 03:40.560 Well, for some reason... 03:40.560 --> 03:40.900 I'm sorry? 03:41.720 --> 03:43.360 No, I was just going to say, good email 03:43.360 --> 03:44.740 Yeah, it's a good email 03:44.740 --> 03:49.420 Well, I'm glad to hear that you've enjoyed Asterisk and playing with it and whatnot 03:49.420 --> 03:50.900 It's certainly a big thrill to set up 03:50.900 --> 03:55.000 For some reason, I honestly thought that Ratchet was going to put the presentation up on his website 03:55.000 --> 03:56.120 But I guess he didn't 03:56.120 --> 04:00.880 So I'll have the material up either on my website or on BinRevRadio shortly 04:00.880 --> 04:03.480 If I can get access to the website 04:03.480 --> 04:05.440 So... 04:05.440 --> 04:07.960 Is that your phone going off? 04:08.480 --> 04:08.920 Yeah 04:08.920 --> 04:12.040 I think it's you calling me in the other line 04:12.040 --> 04:14.640 No, it's somebody calling me though 04:14.640 --> 04:16.980 Oh, you're shutting it off 04:16.980 --> 04:17.860 Private number 04:17.860 --> 04:19.700 I wonder who that is 04:19.700 --> 04:21.120 Sweet 04:21.120 --> 04:23.140 No, I was going to say about this email though 04:23.140 --> 04:25.240 I know how you feel 04:25.240 --> 04:31.460 Because like, even in the United States, there's areas that like VoIP isn't, you know, there's not a big market for it right now 04:31.460 --> 04:33.260 Like for instance, I live in Iowa 04:33.260 --> 04:41.000 And in Iowa, if I mentioned VoIP to anybody, they would just freak out and not know what it is 04:41.000 --> 04:41.760 It's like VoIP 04:41.760 --> 04:46.160 It kind of sounds like a sound from like a movie or something 04:46.160 --> 04:46.880 I don't know 04:46.880 --> 04:48.360 VoIP, it's a new drug craze 04:48.360 --> 04:50.260 Yeah, it's a new drug 04:50.260 --> 04:52.440 No, but like, that's what happens 04:52.440 --> 04:55.980 I mean like, right now, I mean VoIP is a big thing because 04:55.980 --> 04:58.580 I mean like, that's where technology is going 04:58.580 --> 05:01.920 But on the other hand, it's not everywhere yet 05:01.920 --> 05:05.300 And like, we're like behind the times here in Iowa 05:05.300 --> 05:11.020 So don't feel bad like, for being in the UK and things are not like, as developed as the United States 05:11.020 --> 05:17.900 Because like, even in the United States, like, there's way, there's like a lot of areas that don't even know what VoIP is yet 05:17.900 --> 05:22.600 Yeah, I'm looking up and I'm just seeing if there's anything 05:22.600 --> 05:26.980 I'm trying to find a PST and termination provider for the UK 05:26.980 --> 05:27.920 I know they're out there 05:27.920 --> 05:29.180 I'm not sure who it is 05:29.180 --> 05:35.140 Although I know that Broadvoice, although Broadvoice can't give you a UK number 05:35.140 --> 05:38.140 They will give you free calls to the UK as part of your plan 05:38.140 --> 05:40.300 So there's one solution 05:40.300 --> 05:42.780 Yeah, definitely 05:42.780 --> 05:46.200 Alright, let's go on to the next email 05:46.200 --> 05:49.400 This one's from ImperialDragon144 05:49.400 --> 05:52.840 Hi, angle bracket, who's on the show? Close angle bracket 05:52.840 --> 05:56.400 I guess I'm supposed to actually put my name in there, so 05:56.400 --> 05:58.480 Hi, I think that's from, it's from me 05:58.480 --> 06:01.180 Okay, so, hi, SubZero and Strom 06:01.180 --> 06:06.620 I don't know if you've heard, and if yes, I'm sorry to bring old news 06:06.620 --> 06:11.320 But Google released an IM client, www.google.com slash talk 06:11.320 --> 06:14.240 It doesn't seem to have anything more than other IM clients 06:14.240 --> 06:17.000 Except being made by Google, but that seems to be enough for some people 06:17.000 --> 06:21.040 Will Google one day make an OS, a doomsday machine, rule the world? 06:22.260 --> 06:25.100 Seriously, I checked the terms of service and saw some weird stuff 06:25.100 --> 06:28.240 Yes, it's funny, I mean, people think that Google's taking over the world 06:28.240 --> 06:29.280 Anyway, back to email 06:29.280 --> 06:33.300 Seriously, I checked the TOS and saw some weird stuff 06:33.300 --> 06:36.600 Seriously, I checked the terms of service and saw some weird stuff 06:36.600 --> 06:39.720 Use the service for any fraudulent or inappropriate purpose 06:39.720 --> 06:41.220 Inappropriate? What is that? 06:41.320 --> 06:44.760 Swearing? Can they take everything they forgot to prohibit and say it's inappropriate? 06:46.000 --> 06:48.880 Quote, Google may access or disclose your personal information 06:48.880 --> 06:50.660 Including the content of your communications 06:50.660 --> 06:54.740 If Google is required to do so in order to comply with any valid legal process 06:54.740 --> 06:56.460 Or governmental request, unquote 06:56.460 --> 06:59.380 I haven't checked with the other IMs to see if it's common 06:59.380 --> 07:01.840 We don't want trouble with the Feds clause, probably is 07:01.840 --> 07:04.080 But does that mean the information is there? 07:04.240 --> 07:05.260 They record all you say 07:05.260 --> 07:08.120 But does that mean the information is there? 07:08.120 --> 07:09.480 They record all you say 07:09.480 --> 07:10.440 Do I need to say more? 07:11.940 --> 07:12.760 Well, I will 07:12.760 --> 07:16.860 Quote, we do not log any of the content of your chats or calls, unquote 07:16.860 --> 07:18.720 But they just said that 07:18.720 --> 07:19.580 WTF? 07:19.580 --> 07:22.900 Okay, now what they have to explain is this 07:22.900 --> 07:24.000 Google 07:24.000 --> 07:27.060 Now what they have to explain, that is 07:27.060 --> 07:29.740 Google Talk will collect certain log information 07:29.740 --> 07:31.440 Created in the course of a conversation 07:31.440 --> 07:34.220 So they start saying that they are recording the conversation 07:34.220 --> 07:35.380 To recording nothing at all 07:35.380 --> 07:36.280 To recording logs 07:36.280 --> 07:38.460 I know I'd love to check one of those logs 07:38.460 --> 07:40.020 I love your show 07:40.020 --> 07:41.000 Continue the good work 07:41.000 --> 07:42.740 ImperialDragon144 07:42.740 --> 07:46.720 Okay, so I actually have personally tried Google Talk 07:46.720 --> 07:49.040 I downloaded the client 07:49.040 --> 07:51.640 Me and Adam were messing around with it the other day 07:51.640 --> 07:52.800 Just to see what it was all about 07:52.800 --> 07:53.720 And 07:53.720 --> 07:56.820 I don't know about other clients 07:56.820 --> 08:00.380 I obviously know that Google Talk is 08:00.380 --> 08:01.860 I mean 08:01.860 --> 08:04.020 Just like the way Google works 08:04.020 --> 08:05.240 Even with Gmail 08:05.240 --> 08:06.260 You know how they always have 08:06.260 --> 08:06.600 I mean 08:06.600 --> 08:09.440 There always seem to be those ads 08:09.440 --> 08:11.360 That just know exactly what you're talking about 08:11.360 --> 08:13.000 And like I wouldn't be surprised 08:13.000 --> 08:15.000 If Google implemented some sort of like 08:15.000 --> 08:18.140 I guess not logs 08:18.140 --> 08:20.200 Like I don't think they would be 08:20.200 --> 08:21.800 Recording everything that you say 08:21.800 --> 08:23.500 But I'm sure they're like looking for keywords 08:23.500 --> 08:24.180 And like 08:24.180 --> 08:26.580 Stuff that might be objectionable 08:26.580 --> 08:29.020 And I don't know if it's for safety reasons 08:29.020 --> 08:29.520 I know 08:29.520 --> 08:31.520 AOL Instant Messenger a while back 08:31.520 --> 08:33.300 I think had a problem with this before 08:33.300 --> 08:33.660 Because 08:33.660 --> 08:36.140 I think there was 08:36.140 --> 08:37.940 A law case 08:37.940 --> 08:38.740 A while back 08:38.740 --> 08:40.240 I'm not sure exactly what it was 08:40.240 --> 08:41.660 And I'll have to bring that up 08:41.660 --> 08:42.400 If I can later 08:42.400 --> 08:43.360 If I can find it 08:43.360 --> 08:43.640 But 08:43.640 --> 08:44.560 Somebody 08:44.560 --> 08:46.380 There was 08:46.380 --> 08:47.380 I think it was like 08:47.380 --> 08:48.900 An abduction case with a child 08:48.900 --> 08:50.720 And they were looking through logs 08:50.720 --> 08:52.060 Of 08:52.060 --> 08:52.980 Like 08:52.980 --> 08:53.800 The message 08:53.800 --> 08:55.060 Like just that the child 08:55.060 --> 08:55.980 And the person had 08:55.980 --> 08:56.840 But it was kind of weird 08:56.840 --> 08:57.200 Because like 08:57.200 --> 08:58.620 They didn't record the conversation 08:58.620 --> 09:00.080 Somehow there was logs involved 09:00.080 --> 09:01.560 So I'm not sure 09:01.560 --> 09:03.000 Did the individual clients 09:03.000 --> 09:04.000 Have logging turned on? 09:04.800 --> 09:05.020 Let's see 09:05.020 --> 09:05.400 Like I 09:05.400 --> 09:06.380 I don't know exactly 09:06.380 --> 09:06.820 I forget 09:06.820 --> 09:07.860 The like 09:07.860 --> 09:08.740 Total exactly 09:08.740 --> 09:10.640 Details of the 09:10.640 --> 09:11.820 Situation 09:11.820 --> 09:12.720 But like 09:12.720 --> 09:13.560 I know that 09:13.560 --> 09:15.760 Like just for them 09:15.760 --> 09:16.860 To cover themselves legally 09:16.860 --> 09:18.380 I wouldn't be surprised 09:18.380 --> 09:19.140 If they do 09:19.140 --> 09:19.860 Check 09:19.860 --> 09:20.980 I mean 09:20.980 --> 09:22.300 I mean 09:22.300 --> 09:23.200 Pretty much anything 09:23.200 --> 09:23.840 On the internet 09:23.840 --> 09:25.100 Can be safely assumed 09:25.100 --> 09:25.940 That it's being monitored 09:25.940 --> 09:26.560 In some way 09:26.560 --> 09:28.600 I mean that's 09:28.600 --> 09:28.980 Just 09:28.980 --> 09:30.540 I'm not a paranoid person 09:30.540 --> 09:30.860 At all 09:30.860 --> 09:31.140 And like 09:31.140 --> 09:31.960 I really honestly 09:31.960 --> 09:33.360 Don't care very much 09:33.360 --> 09:34.440 But 09:34.440 --> 09:35.420 I like 09:35.420 --> 09:36.120 I'm 09:36.120 --> 09:37.100 Going to 09:37.100 --> 09:37.920 Keep believing 09:37.920 --> 09:38.620 And like 09:38.620 --> 09:39.280 Have the impression 09:39.280 --> 09:41.080 That people are watching 09:41.080 --> 09:42.460 Just because 09:42.460 --> 09:44.080 That's just how it is 09:44.080 --> 09:44.520 Right 09:44.520 --> 09:45.420 My interpretation 09:45.420 --> 09:46.040 Of those clauses 09:46.040 --> 09:46.640 Really is that 09:46.640 --> 09:47.900 Apart from recording data 09:47.900 --> 09:48.540 To what you'd expect 09:48.540 --> 09:49.680 To find in web server logs 09:49.680 --> 09:50.540 Google doesn't record 09:50.540 --> 09:51.740 The content of your messages 09:51.740 --> 09:52.760 I mean 09:52.760 --> 09:53.360 Pretty much 09:53.360 --> 09:54.060 If you look at it 09:54.060 --> 09:54.340 Right 09:54.340 --> 09:57.220 Google may 09:57.220 --> 09:58.920 Let me just put this 09:58.920 --> 10:00.340 In order here 10:00.340 --> 10:00.820 Well I mean 10:00.820 --> 10:01.440 It'd be so 10:01.440 --> 10:02.220 Can you imagine 10:02.220 --> 10:03.320 The logs that they'd have 10:03.320 --> 10:03.960 Yeah I mean 10:03.960 --> 10:04.640 If they logged 10:04.640 --> 10:05.560 Every conversation 10:05.560 --> 10:06.060 They would 10:06.060 --> 10:06.820 Just 10:06.820 --> 10:08.300 Just 10:08.300 --> 10:08.700 You know 10:08.700 --> 10:10.180 Their storage requirements 10:10.180 --> 10:10.680 Of the service 10:10.680 --> 10:11.780 Would be mind boggling 10:11.780 --> 10:13.360 I think what it does 10:13.360 --> 10:13.740 Give them 10:13.740 --> 10:14.220 Like 10:14.220 --> 10:15.460 In the terms of service 10:15.460 --> 10:16.060 I think what it 10:16.060 --> 10:17.180 Ends up giving them 10:17.180 --> 10:18.040 Permission to do 10:18.040 --> 10:18.880 Is if there was 10:18.880 --> 10:19.660 Questionable activity 10:19.660 --> 10:20.400 Within a certain 10:20.400 --> 10:21.580 Person's username 10:21.580 --> 10:22.600 That they'd have 10:22.600 --> 10:23.520 The ability to go in 10:23.520 --> 10:24.020 And log 10:24.020 --> 10:24.820 Right 10:24.820 --> 10:25.120 Right 10:25.120 --> 10:26.120 Yeah it gives them 10:26.120 --> 10:26.460 The ability 10:26.460 --> 10:27.720 Should there be 10:27.720 --> 10:28.840 A subpoena 10:28.840 --> 10:29.860 Or questionable activity 10:29.860 --> 10:30.780 Then they can monitor 10:30.780 --> 10:31.820 And see what's going on 10:31.820 --> 10:31.980 Yeah 10:31.980 --> 10:32.780 But you know 10:32.780 --> 10:33.360 And then he says 10:33.360 --> 10:35.120 Well then he mentions 10:35.120 --> 10:35.600 And it says 10:35.600 --> 10:37.360 The service for any 10:37.360 --> 10:37.800 Fraudulent 10:37.800 --> 10:39.660 Or inappropriate 10:39.660 --> 10:40.840 Purposes 10:40.840 --> 10:41.740 I can't talk 10:41.740 --> 10:42.880 Inappropriate 10:42.880 --> 10:43.220 He's like 10:43.220 --> 10:43.900 What is inappropriate 10:43.900 --> 10:44.420 Swearing 10:44.420 --> 10:45.380 Like I think 10:45.380 --> 10:45.400 Like I think 10:45.400 --> 10:46.360 Basically 10:46.360 --> 10:47.080 They just mean 10:47.080 --> 10:47.760 State laws 10:47.760 --> 10:48.340 Like when they 10:48.340 --> 10:48.920 Talk about 10:48.920 --> 10:49.660 Inappropriate 10:49.660 --> 10:50.300 Purposes 10:50.300 --> 10:50.600 Because 10:50.600 --> 10:51.940 The internet 10:51.940 --> 10:53.440 Has no actual law 10:53.440 --> 10:54.440 I mean there's no law 10:54.440 --> 10:55.400 To govern the internet 10:55.400 --> 10:56.960 So what they do is 10:56.960 --> 10:58.200 Every state 10:58.200 --> 10:59.120 Governs 10:59.120 --> 10:59.720 I mean like 10:59.720 --> 11:00.360 If you're in 11:00.360 --> 11:00.900 You know 11:00.900 --> 11:01.320 Minnesota 11:01.320 --> 11:03.140 And you're doing 11:03.140 --> 11:03.860 Something questionable 11:03.860 --> 11:04.380 In Minnesota 11:04.380 --> 11:05.340 Like you can't gamble 11:05.340 --> 11:07.300 If you're not of age 11:07.300 --> 11:07.700 In Minnesota 11:07.700 --> 11:08.120 You know 11:08.120 --> 11:09.980 So getting online 11:09.980 --> 11:10.360 And gambling 11:10.360 --> 11:11.100 Where you can 11:11.100 --> 11:12.320 It's still illegal 11:12.320 --> 11:12.900 Because you're not 11:12.900 --> 11:13.880 You're within the state 11:13.880 --> 11:14.980 That has those laws 11:14.980 --> 11:15.940 Sort of thing 11:15.940 --> 11:17.300 Like the state 11:17.300 --> 11:17.680 That you're in 11:17.680 --> 11:18.840 Encompasses the laws 11:18.840 --> 11:20.080 That I guess 11:20.080 --> 11:21.660 Bound you to certain 11:21.660 --> 11:22.160 Laws online 11:22.160 --> 11:22.540 Yeah 11:22.540 --> 11:23.180 And I think 11:23.180 --> 11:23.920 The general rule 11:23.920 --> 11:24.840 With most of these things 11:24.840 --> 11:25.140 Is you know 11:25.140 --> 11:25.800 They put things 11:25.800 --> 11:27.440 In the user agreement 11:27.440 --> 11:28.580 For you know 11:28.580 --> 11:29.580 For the purposes 11:29.580 --> 11:31.040 For those situations 11:31.040 --> 11:31.640 Where they really 11:31.640 --> 11:32.740 Do need to exercise 11:32.740 --> 11:33.900 Those parts of the agreements 11:33.900 --> 11:34.820 But I mean 11:34.820 --> 11:36.540 Those are worst case scenarios 11:36.540 --> 11:37.100 Like say 11:37.100 --> 11:38.220 Someone's spamming 11:38.220 --> 11:39.000 Or someone's suspected 11:39.000 --> 11:39.840 Of you know 11:39.840 --> 11:40.680 Abducting someone 11:40.680 --> 11:41.840 Or someone's suspected 11:41.840 --> 11:42.680 Of planning a murder 11:42.680 --> 11:43.780 Using the instant messaging 11:43.780 --> 11:44.380 Service right 11:44.380 --> 11:45.340 So then 11:45.340 --> 11:46.060 You know 11:46.060 --> 11:46.780 They go back 11:46.780 --> 11:47.400 And they can 11:47.400 --> 11:47.900 You know 11:47.900 --> 11:49.160 They can go through 11:49.160 --> 11:49.540 And check 11:49.540 --> 11:50.000 Or if someone 11:50.000 --> 11:51.200 Is harassing other users 11:51.200 --> 11:51.580 You know 11:51.580 --> 11:53.020 They can use those clauses 11:53.020 --> 11:53.960 To suspend the user 11:53.960 --> 11:55.440 From the service 11:55.440 --> 11:56.320 But for the most part 11:56.320 --> 11:56.640 You know 11:56.640 --> 11:58.760 The idea is to provide 11:58.760 --> 11:59.240 Service 11:59.240 --> 12:00.040 Not to be 12:00.040 --> 12:01.380 This oligarchical 12:01.380 --> 12:01.800 You know 12:01.800 --> 12:03.180 Repressive entity 12:03.180 --> 12:04.420 Exactly 12:04.420 --> 12:05.480 So you know 12:05.480 --> 12:07.760 Just use common sense guys 12:07.760 --> 12:08.620 If they 12:08.620 --> 12:10.060 If they 12:10.060 --> 12:10.800 You know 12:10.800 --> 12:12.720 Strenuously monitored 12:12.720 --> 12:13.680 And you know 12:13.680 --> 12:14.220 Restricted 12:14.220 --> 12:14.880 If they acted 12:14.880 --> 12:15.860 Basically like the government 12:15.860 --> 12:16.900 In Orwell's 1984 12:16.900 --> 12:17.960 Right 12:17.960 --> 12:19.460 Then no one would 12:19.460 --> 12:20.160 Use the service 12:20.160 --> 12:21.100 So 12:21.100 --> 12:21.420 Exactly 12:21.420 --> 12:22.400 You know 12:22.400 --> 12:24.100 They just have those clauses 12:24.100 --> 12:25.000 In there for their own 12:25.000 --> 12:25.400 Protection 12:25.400 --> 12:27.000 For cases where that sort of 12:27.000 --> 12:27.900 Stuff has to happen 12:27.900 --> 12:29.920 And like I said earlier 12:29.920 --> 12:30.760 I mean like 12:30.760 --> 12:32.360 It's 12:32.360 --> 12:33.540 If you're 12:33.540 --> 12:34.140 The paranoid 12:34.140 --> 12:35.000 Torridor person 12:35.000 --> 12:35.720 That you're just not 12:35.720 --> 12:36.480 Going to use Google Talk 12:36.480 --> 12:37.300 Because it has this 12:37.300 --> 12:37.940 Like questionable 12:37.940 --> 12:39.420 Terms of service 12:39.420 --> 12:39.880 I mean 12:39.880 --> 12:41.500 Once you start reading 12:41.500 --> 12:42.740 Like most terms of service 12:42.740 --> 12:43.340 For anything 12:43.340 --> 12:43.700 Like 12:43.700 --> 12:45.720 You just sit there 12:45.720 --> 12:46.640 And it's mind boggling 12:46.640 --> 12:47.080 Just because 12:47.080 --> 12:48.320 In the end 12:48.320 --> 12:49.480 All these companies 12:49.480 --> 12:50.020 And businesses 12:50.020 --> 12:50.600 Want to do 12:50.600 --> 12:51.400 Is just carve themselves 12:51.400 --> 12:51.980 For anything 12:51.980 --> 12:52.880 That might go wrong 12:52.880 --> 12:54.060 Or could possibly go wrong 12:54.060 --> 12:55.580 So for that to happen 12:55.580 --> 12:57.000 Like most of these 12:57.000 --> 12:57.660 Terms of services 12:57.660 --> 12:59.000 Are like five pages long 12:59.000 --> 12:59.940 And deal with 12:59.940 --> 13:01.700 Like just a bunch of stuff 13:01.700 --> 13:02.680 That isn't really 13:02.680 --> 13:03.540 Applicable 13:03.540 --> 13:04.380 At the moment 13:04.380 --> 13:05.100 But like 13:05.100 --> 13:06.300 If something happens 13:06.300 --> 13:06.580 You know 13:06.580 --> 13:07.560 They have it there 13:07.560 --> 13:07.960 You know 13:07.960 --> 13:08.600 They can say that 13:08.600 --> 13:09.260 Hey we were ready 13:09.260 --> 13:09.680 For this 13:09.680 --> 13:11.020 So like most of 13:11.020 --> 13:11.780 These places 13:11.780 --> 13:12.360 Don't 13:12.360 --> 13:12.760 I mean 13:12.760 --> 13:14.020 Go to Yahoo 13:14.020 --> 13:14.780 Email 13:14.780 --> 13:15.580 Go to Gmail 13:15.580 --> 13:16.640 Go to like 13:16.640 --> 13:17.040 Anything 13:17.040 --> 13:18.280 Go to any website 13:18.280 --> 13:18.840 And read 13:18.840 --> 13:19.440 Terms of service 13:19.440 --> 13:20.240 For any website 13:20.240 --> 13:21.140 And you'll see like 13:21.140 --> 13:22.440 The exact same thing 13:22.440 --> 13:23.300 Said in every website 13:23.300 --> 13:24.300 And like 13:24.300 --> 13:25.280 They'll monitor things 13:25.280 --> 13:25.900 If they have to 13:25.900 --> 13:26.260 I mean 13:26.260 --> 13:26.920 But that's just 13:26.920 --> 13:27.440 How it is 13:27.440 --> 13:28.700 But if you're 13:28.700 --> 13:29.200 Going to sit there 13:29.200 --> 13:29.820 And be paranoid 13:29.820 --> 13:30.340 About it 13:30.340 --> 13:30.640 Then 13:30.640 --> 13:31.520 I mean 13:31.520 --> 13:32.320 The internet's 13:32.320 --> 13:32.960 Probably not a good 13:32.960 --> 13:33.480 Place for you 13:33.480 --> 13:34.020 To hang out 13:34.020 --> 13:34.740 Well 13:34.740 --> 13:36.040 If you're paranoid 13:36.040 --> 13:37.000 Society is probably 13:37.000 --> 13:37.580 Not a good place 13:37.580 --> 13:38.140 For you to hang out 13:38.140 --> 13:38.540 It'd be better 13:38.540 --> 13:39.820 Go out to the middle 13:39.820 --> 13:40.180 Of the 13:40.180 --> 13:41.420 San Bernardino 13:41.420 --> 13:42.320 County 13:42.320 --> 13:42.960 Into the 13:42.960 --> 13:43.420 San Juan 13:43.420 --> 13:44.040 What is it 13:44.040 --> 13:45.460 The desert 13:45.460 --> 13:46.660 In Southern California 13:46.660 --> 13:47.180 The name of which 13:47.180 --> 13:48.200 Temporarily escapes me 13:48.200 --> 13:49.680 And you know 13:49.680 --> 13:50.860 Just live in 13:50.860 --> 13:52.020 A bungalow 13:52.020 --> 13:52.980 In the ground somewhere 13:52.980 --> 13:54.080 Yeah 13:54.080 --> 13:55.720 So 13:55.720 --> 13:56.920 Yeah 13:56.920 --> 13:57.780 I agree 13:57.780 --> 13:58.100 Yeah 13:58.100 --> 13:59.760 So personal 13:59.760 --> 14:00.600 Hacking story 14:00.600 --> 14:01.320 Did you do anything 14:01.320 --> 14:02.080 Interesting this 14:02.080 --> 14:03.100 Recently 14:03.100 --> 14:05.120 Like 14:05.120 --> 14:06.060 Any personal 14:06.060 --> 14:06.640 Hacking stories 14:06.640 --> 14:07.420 I'm trying to think 14:07.420 --> 14:14.080 I'll think about it 14:14.080 --> 14:14.420 For a second 14:14.420 --> 14:14.960 Because I know 14:14.960 --> 14:15.540 I did something 14:15.540 --> 14:16.380 But I'm 14:16.380 --> 14:17.460 Forgetting what happened 14:17.460 --> 14:18.140 Alright 14:18.140 --> 14:18.980 Well I'll go into mine 14:18.980 --> 14:19.280 Then 14:19.280 --> 14:20.000 Alright go 14:20.000 --> 14:21.300 On Friday 14:21.300 --> 14:22.680 I saw a 35mm 14:22.680 --> 14:23.700 Print of Brazil 14:23.700 --> 14:24.380 Which was 14:24.380 --> 14:25.640 A great lot of fun 14:25.640 --> 14:26.440 I had never seen it 14:26.440 --> 14:27.260 On the big screen before 14:27.260 --> 14:28.020 I only seen a DVD 14:28.020 --> 14:30.020 And that is a great film 14:30.020 --> 14:30.940 If you haven't seen 14:30.940 --> 14:31.660 Brazil yet 14:31.660 --> 14:32.740 Go get the DVD 14:32.740 --> 14:33.460 And watch it 14:33.460 --> 14:34.520 And if you ever 14:34.520 --> 14:35.220 Get the opportunity 14:35.220 --> 14:35.920 To watch it 14:35.920 --> 14:36.720 On a film screen 14:36.720 --> 14:37.980 I highly recommend 14:37.980 --> 14:38.320 You do 14:38.320 --> 14:39.180 Because it's just 14:39.180 --> 14:41.080 Amazing masterpiece 14:41.080 --> 14:42.500 Awesome 14:42.500 --> 14:43.800 I think they showed 14:43.800 --> 14:44.700 On DEFCON TV 14:44.700 --> 14:45.160 As well 14:45.160 --> 14:46.400 Yeah I think 14:46.400 --> 14:47.040 I saw it 14:47.040 --> 14:47.800 On DEFCON TV 14:47.800 --> 14:48.520 As well too 14:48.520 --> 14:50.540 Other than that 14:50.540 --> 14:51.820 School starts this week 14:51.820 --> 14:52.180 For me 14:52.180 --> 14:52.780 I'm going back 14:52.780 --> 14:53.200 To college 14:53.200 --> 14:54.480 After a hiatus 14:54.480 --> 14:55.280 So that's exciting 14:55.280 --> 14:55.680 For me 14:55.680 --> 14:56.760 Nice 14:56.760 --> 14:58.120 Yeah I went back 14:58.120 --> 14:58.480 To school 14:58.480 --> 14:59.460 This past week 14:59.460 --> 14:59.940 And it was 14:59.940 --> 15:00.480 Pretty interesting 15:00.480 --> 15:00.880 Because 15:00.880 --> 15:03.220 I'm now getting 15:03.220 --> 15:03.720 To the point 15:03.720 --> 15:04.300 That like 15:04.300 --> 15:05.180 Have you ever 15:05.180 --> 15:05.600 Seen the movie 15:05.600 --> 15:06.240 Van Wilder 15:06.240 --> 15:08.260 I saw bits and pieces 15:08.260 --> 15:08.560 Of it 15:08.560 --> 15:09.200 But it kind of 15:09.200 --> 15:09.580 Seemed a little 15:09.580 --> 15:10.660 Juvenile for my taste 15:10.660 --> 15:11.760 Yeah yeah 15:11.760 --> 15:12.840 Well for some 15:12.840 --> 15:13.900 Like my goal 15:13.900 --> 15:14.620 In the end 15:14.620 --> 15:15.760 Of my college career 15:15.760 --> 15:16.400 Is to be kind of 15:16.400 --> 15:16.980 Like that guy 15:16.980 --> 15:17.840 Just because 15:17.840 --> 15:19.020 We're like 15:19.020 --> 15:19.800 Everybody knows him 15:19.800 --> 15:20.460 And it's kind of 15:20.460 --> 15:20.840 Getting there 15:20.840 --> 15:21.180 Because it was 15:21.180 --> 15:21.560 Kind of hard 15:21.560 --> 15:22.180 To walk to class 15:22.180 --> 15:22.780 Without seeing 15:22.780 --> 15:23.660 Like I'm on a 15:23.660 --> 15:24.080 Campus with 15:24.080 --> 15:25.100 27,000 people 15:25.100 --> 15:26.060 But like 15:26.060 --> 15:26.880 I couldn't walk 15:26.880 --> 15:27.540 To class without 15:27.540 --> 15:28.720 Like stopping 15:28.720 --> 15:29.460 And knowing 15:29.460 --> 15:29.920 Somebody every 15:29.920 --> 15:30.420 Five minutes 15:30.420 --> 15:31.940 It was kind of 15:31.940 --> 15:32.160 Funny 15:32.160 --> 15:33.340 No I know 15:33.340 --> 15:33.700 What I did 15:33.700 --> 15:34.380 I hooked up 15:34.380 --> 15:36.800 I'm right now 15:36.800 --> 15:37.960 On my desktop 15:37.960 --> 15:38.800 Up to a half 15:38.800 --> 15:39.240 A terabyte 15:39.240 --> 15:40.220 Of space 15:40.220 --> 15:41.780 I have about 15:41.780 --> 15:43.260 550 gigabytes 15:43.260 --> 15:43.660 Of space 15:43.660 --> 15:44.660 I went and 15:44.660 --> 15:45.200 Bought a new 15:45.200 --> 15:46.180 200 gigabyte 15:46.180 --> 15:46.680 Hard drive 15:46.680 --> 15:47.220 The other day 15:47.220 --> 15:47.800 Oh cool 15:47.800 --> 15:49.820 We're doing 15:49.820 --> 15:50.880 Some video stuff 15:50.880 --> 15:51.980 So we like 15:51.980 --> 15:52.760 Need the room 15:52.760 --> 15:54.400 Yeah I bought 15:54.400 --> 15:55.980 Some hard drive 15:55.980 --> 15:56.620 Enclosures the 15:56.620 --> 15:56.940 Other day 15:56.940 --> 15:57.460 And I've been 15:57.460 --> 15:58.440 Playing around 15:58.440 --> 15:58.660 With it 15:58.660 --> 15:59.140 A friend of mine 15:59.140 --> 15:59.600 Asked me to 15:59.600 --> 16:00.300 Restore some data 16:00.300 --> 16:00.780 From his 16:00.780 --> 16:01.400 Crash computer 16:01.400 --> 16:01.860 So I bought 16:01.860 --> 16:02.320 This external 16:02.320 --> 16:03.060 Hard drive enclosure 16:03.060 --> 16:03.460 To put the 16:03.460 --> 16:04.020 Hard drive in 16:04.020 --> 16:04.760 And man 16:04.760 --> 16:05.100 These things 16:05.100 --> 16:05.600 Are cool 16:05.600 --> 16:07.120 They're awesome 16:07.120 --> 16:08.340 Yeah I know 16:08.340 --> 16:09.300 I have two of them 16:09.300 --> 16:10.040 I have three 16:10.040 --> 16:10.900 External hard drives 16:10.900 --> 16:11.620 And two internal 16:11.620 --> 16:12.140 Hard drives 16:12.140 --> 16:13.040 Okay 16:13.040 --> 16:14.920 Yeah I 16:14.920 --> 16:15.980 Quite the amount 16:15.980 --> 16:16.380 Of space 16:16.380 --> 16:17.680 But I mean 16:17.680 --> 16:18.960 With what I do 16:18.960 --> 16:19.360 You know 16:19.360 --> 16:20.200 I kind of 16:20.200 --> 16:21.100 I kind of need it 16:21.100 --> 16:21.920 Oh yeah of course 16:21.920 --> 16:23.560 But yeah 16:23.560 --> 16:24.720 That's pretty much it 16:24.720 --> 16:25.320 Other than just 16:25.320 --> 16:25.840 Trying to get 16:25.840 --> 16:27.300 Things organized 16:27.300 --> 16:29.060 For some stuff 16:29.060 --> 16:29.640 That's going to 16:29.640 --> 16:30.180 Happen next week 16:30.180 --> 16:30.820 I'll just talk about 16:30.820 --> 16:31.220 That at the end 16:31.220 --> 16:31.560 Of the show 16:31.560 --> 16:32.320 Oh cool 16:32.320 --> 16:33.500 Anyway 16:33.500 --> 16:34.360 Last week 16:34.360 --> 16:36.060 I talked about 16:36.060 --> 16:36.700 My idea to do 16:36.700 --> 16:37.440 Music reviews 16:37.440 --> 16:38.920 For the show 16:38.920 --> 16:39.780 And someone 16:39.780 --> 16:40.480 Actually sent in 16:40.480 --> 16:40.720 Music 16:40.720 --> 16:42.380 So here is 16:42.380 --> 16:43.040 The very first 16:43.040 --> 16:43.540 Edition of 16:43.540 --> 16:44.420 Strum's Music 16:44.420 --> 16:44.800 Review 16:44.800 --> 16:45.780 I might come up 16:45.780 --> 16:46.400 With a catchier 16:46.400 --> 16:47.060 Name for it 16:47.060 --> 16:47.300 Later 16:47.300 --> 16:47.820 And if you 16:47.820 --> 16:49.100 If you want to 16:49.100 --> 16:49.780 Suggest a catchy 16:49.780 --> 16:50.300 Name for this 16:50.300 --> 16:51.060 Segment feel free 16:51.060 --> 16:51.460 To email 16:51.460 --> 16:51.900 Radio at 16:51.900 --> 16:52.580 BinRiff.com 16:52.580 --> 16:53.420 Anyway 16:53.420 --> 16:54.480 You need a 16:54.480 --> 16:55.140 Little theme song 16:55.140 --> 16:56.280 Yeah I need 16:56.280 --> 16:57.020 My own music 16:57.020 --> 16:57.840 Review theme song 16:57.840 --> 16:58.140 I don't know 16:58.140 --> 16:58.760 What it is yet 16:58.760 --> 17:01.160 But if anyone 17:01.160 --> 17:01.980 Out there listening 17:01.980 --> 17:03.060 Wants to compose 17:03.060 --> 17:04.080 A Strum's Music 17:04.080 --> 17:04.980 Review theme song 17:04.980 --> 17:05.580 By all means 17:05.580 --> 17:06.040 Feel free 17:06.040 --> 17:07.420 Awesome 17:07.420 --> 17:08.320 Anyway 17:08.320 --> 17:09.900 Ray's 17:09.900 --> 17:10.240 I think that's 17:10.240 --> 17:10.780 How you pronounce it 17:10.780 --> 17:11.440 Of a band called 17:11.440 --> 17:12.340 Post Pathos 17:12.340 --> 17:12.760 I think he said 17:12.760 --> 17:13.040 It's from 17:13.040 --> 17:13.820 A metal band 17:13.820 --> 17:14.640 From New York City 17:14.640 --> 17:15.480 He sent in 17:15.480 --> 17:15.980 Three songs 17:15.980 --> 17:16.380 This band 17:16.380 --> 17:17.000 Recorded 17:17.000 --> 17:17.780 And they're called 17:17.780 --> 17:18.380 Scar 17:18.380 --> 17:19.360 Waste Matter 17:19.360 --> 17:20.400 And Distance 17:20.400 --> 17:22.180 So I listen to these 17:22.180 --> 17:23.840 And they actually 17:23.840 --> 17:24.980 I quite like them 17:24.980 --> 17:25.640 For the most part 17:25.640 --> 17:26.960 The vocals remind me 17:26.960 --> 17:27.420 A lot of 17:27.420 --> 17:27.840 I think it's 17:27.840 --> 17:28.560 Terry Kath 17:28.560 --> 17:28.960 Who does the 17:28.960 --> 17:29.820 First verse of 17:29.820 --> 17:30.380 I'm a man 17:30.380 --> 17:31.260 On the 1969 17:31.260 --> 17:32.060 Chicago Transit 17:32.060 --> 17:32.820 Authority album 17:32.820 --> 17:34.280 The only real 17:34.280 --> 17:35.060 Difference being 17:35.060 --> 17:36.040 That Terry Kath 17:36.040 --> 17:37.000 Wasn't flat 17:37.000 --> 17:38.520 To new songs 17:38.520 --> 17:40.700 He's a good vocalist 17:40.700 --> 17:41.500 On these recordings 17:41.500 --> 17:42.800 But he just 17:42.800 --> 17:43.720 Doesn't hit the note 17:43.720 --> 17:44.280 Correctly 17:44.280 --> 17:45.140 He only seems to 17:45.140 --> 17:45.640 Air on the side 17:45.640 --> 17:46.240 Of flatness 17:46.240 --> 17:48.180 And the songs 17:48.180 --> 17:48.960 Themselves do have 17:48.960 --> 17:49.480 A good emotional 17:49.480 --> 17:50.000 Color to them 17:50.000 --> 17:50.860 But they kind of 17:50.860 --> 17:51.560 Sound muddy 17:51.560 --> 17:52.080 In the mixing 17:52.080 --> 17:52.780 But I don't think 17:52.780 --> 17:54.440 That's any fault 17:54.440 --> 17:56.760 Of the band 17:56.760 --> 17:57.180 Themselves 17:57.180 --> 17:57.720 They probably just 17:57.720 --> 17:58.340 Mix this on their 17:58.340 --> 17:59.140 Computer or something 17:59.140 --> 18:01.780 But I definitely 18:01.780 --> 18:02.300 Like to listen 18:02.300 --> 18:02.760 To these songs 18:02.760 --> 18:03.460 Again when the 18:03.460 --> 18:04.180 Mix is cleaned up 18:04.180 --> 18:04.720 And either the 18:04.720 --> 18:05.700 Vocalist can sing 18:05.700 --> 18:07.300 Or they got a 18:07.300 --> 18:08.000 Vocalist who can 18:08.000 --> 18:11.220 And apologies 18:11.220 --> 18:12.660 To the vocalist 18:12.660 --> 18:14.860 From Post Pathos 18:14.860 --> 18:15.320 But anyway 18:15.320 --> 18:16.980 I recommend that 18:16.980 --> 18:17.340 You go and 18:17.340 --> 18:17.860 Listen to them 18:17.860 --> 18:19.040 Their address is 18:19.040 --> 18:21.380 www.geocities.com 18:21.380 --> 18:22.800 Slash post 18:22.800 --> 18:23.580 Underscore 18:23.580 --> 18:24.260 Pathos 18:24.260 --> 18:28.540 P-A-T-H-O-S 18:28.540 --> 18:28.980 Yes 18:28.980 --> 18:31.300 And we're going 18:31.300 --> 18:31.580 To use 18:31.580 --> 18:31.600 I'm on their 18:31.600 --> 18:32.320 Website right now 18:32.320 --> 18:32.760 Oh cool 18:32.760 --> 18:33.220 Yeah we're going 18:33.220 --> 18:33.700 To use I think 18:33.700 --> 18:34.260 Waste Matter 18:34.260 --> 18:34.840 As the closing 18:34.840 --> 18:35.440 Theme tonight 18:35.440 --> 18:37.260 So we'll get 18:37.260 --> 18:37.740 To hear that 18:37.740 --> 18:39.000 Yeah I'm on 18:39.000 --> 18:39.300 Their website 18:39.300 --> 18:39.720 Right now 18:39.720 --> 18:40.560 They have some 18:40.560 --> 18:41.340 I like the picture 18:41.340 --> 18:41.820 That they have 18:41.820 --> 18:42.480 Is their graphic 18:42.480 --> 18:43.900 It looks pretty 18:43.900 --> 18:44.280 Original 18:44.280 --> 18:45.560 Yeah yeah I love 18:45.560 --> 18:46.620 The visual style 18:46.620 --> 18:47.120 Of the site 18:47.120 --> 18:48.180 Yeah 18:48.180 --> 18:50.120 Alright and 18:50.120 --> 18:50.520 Finally 18:50.520 --> 18:51.860 Let's get into 18:51.860 --> 18:52.900 Our show topic 18:52.900 --> 18:54.460 For the week 18:54.460 --> 18:55.180 Which is 18:55.180 --> 18:55.680 Telephony 18:55.680 --> 18:56.440 A little bit 18:56.440 --> 18:56.880 Of past 18:56.880 --> 18:57.800 A lot of 18:57.800 --> 18:58.080 Present 18:58.080 --> 18:58.420 And a lot 18:58.420 --> 18:58.820 Of future 18:58.820 --> 19:00.380 So 19:00.380 --> 19:01.840 Yeah this is 19:01.840 --> 19:02.420 The hardcore 19:02.420 --> 19:03.300 Telephony show 19:03.300 --> 19:04.880 And so 19:04.880 --> 19:05.460 Pretty much 19:05.460 --> 19:06.220 What I'm going 19:06.220 --> 19:06.640 To do is 19:06.640 --> 19:07.040 I'm just going 19:07.040 --> 19:07.360 To do a 19:07.360 --> 19:08.260 Basic introduction 19:08.260 --> 19:09.940 To telephony 19:09.940 --> 19:11.440 And how it 19:11.440 --> 19:11.860 Works 19:11.860 --> 19:12.840 And the world 19:12.840 --> 19:14.220 Of the analog 19:14.220 --> 19:14.720 Network 19:14.720 --> 19:15.780 And the digital 19:15.780 --> 19:16.140 Network 19:16.140 --> 19:16.580 And the VoIP 19:16.580 --> 19:17.000 Network 19:17.000 --> 19:18.260 Awesome 19:18.260 --> 19:19.820 And SubZero 19:19.820 --> 19:20.500 Here I guess 19:20.500 --> 19:20.760 You're 19:20.760 --> 19:22.480 I forget how 19:22.480 --> 19:22.840 Much you know 19:22.840 --> 19:23.460 About telephones 19:23.460 --> 19:24.540 Dude I'm a 19:24.540 --> 19:24.860 Noob 19:24.860 --> 19:27.640 No I know 19:27.640 --> 19:28.100 A bit 19:28.100 --> 19:28.880 Not enough 19:28.880 --> 19:30.600 Not as much 19:30.600 --> 19:31.000 As you 19:31.000 --> 19:32.020 But I 19:32.020 --> 19:32.800 I can get 19:32.800 --> 19:33.120 Around 19:33.120 --> 19:34.040 Just I'm 19:34.040 --> 19:34.620 Pretty noobish 19:34.620 --> 19:34.860 Though 19:34.860 --> 19:35.640 Alright cool 19:35.640 --> 19:36.260 Well I guess 19:36.260 --> 19:37.000 Then you'll 19:37.000 --> 19:37.860 You'll function 19:37.860 --> 19:38.500 As the 19:38.500 --> 19:39.200 Voice of the 19:39.200 --> 19:39.740 Audience here 19:39.740 --> 19:40.340 Who doesn't 19:40.340 --> 19:40.880 Know telephones 19:40.880 --> 19:41.300 As well as 19:41.300 --> 19:41.600 I do 19:41.600 --> 19:43.700 And ask for 19:43.700 --> 19:44.320 Clarification 19:44.320 --> 19:44.840 Questions 19:44.840 --> 19:45.380 Anything 19:45.380 --> 19:47.260 Sounds good 19:47.260 --> 19:48.300 So 19:48.300 --> 19:50.520 Let me see 19:50.520 --> 19:50.840 Let's 19:50.840 --> 19:51.380 We 19:51.380 --> 19:51.800 I asked 19:51.800 --> 19:52.100 The bin 19:52.100 --> 19:52.580 Reforms 19:52.580 --> 19:52.760 Let's 19:52.760 --> 19:52.980 Actually 19:52.980 --> 19:53.140 See 19:53.140 --> 19:53.260 If 19:53.260 --> 19:53.540 Anybody 19:53.540 --> 19:53.960 Is 19:53.960 --> 19:54.820 Sitting 19:54.820 --> 19:55.120 On 19:55.120 --> 19:55.320 The 19:55.320 --> 19:55.760 Call 19:55.760 --> 19:55.940 In 19:55.940 --> 19:56.220 Queue 19:56.220 --> 19:56.360 At 19:56.360 --> 19:56.480 The 19:56.480 --> 19:56.820 Moment 19:56.820 --> 19:58.160 Someone 19:58.160 --> 19:58.840 Appears 19:58.840 --> 19:58.940 To 19:58.940 --> 19:59.060 Be 19:59.060 --> 19:59.260 Calling 19:59.260 --> 19:59.520 In 19:59.520 --> 19:59.840 So 19:59.840 --> 20:00.440 Let me 20:00.440 --> 20:01.260 Grab 20:01.260 --> 20:01.480 That 20:01.480 --> 20:01.940 Call 20:01.940 --> 20:02.660 Just a 20:02.660 --> 20:03.100 Second 20:03.100 --> 20:07.880 All right 20:07.880 --> 20:08.180 On the 20:08.180 --> 20:08.340 Line 20:08.340 --> 20:08.780 We have 20:08.780 --> 20:09.500 Ponyboy 20:09.500 --> 20:09.980 From 20:09.980 --> 20:10.660 Do you 20:10.660 --> 20:11.060 Want me 20:11.060 --> 20:11.300 To tell 20:11.300 --> 20:11.520 Them 20:11.520 --> 20:11.740 Where 20:11.740 --> 20:11.940 You're 20:11.940 --> 20:12.260 From 20:12.260 --> 20:13.840 Oh yes 20:13.840 --> 20:14.400 Go ahead 20:14.400 --> 20:14.860 All right 20:14.860 --> 20:15.540 Ponyboy 20:15.540 --> 20:15.800 From 20:15.800 --> 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44:13.020 --> 44:14.000 All 44:14.000 --> 44:14.140 Right 44:14.140 --> 44:14.500 Cool 44:14.500 --> 44:17.040 So 44:17.040 --> 44:18.260 There's 44:18.260 --> 44:18.360 A 44:18.360 --> 44:18.920 Way 44:18.920 --> 44:19.120 That 44:19.120 --> 44:19.300 The 44:19.300 --> 44:19.620 Switches 44:19.620 --> 44:19.840 Talk 44:19.840 --> 44:19.960 To 44:19.960 --> 44:20.100 Each 44:20.100 --> 44:20.280 Other 44:20.280 --> 44:20.620 Called 44:20.620 --> 44:21.080 Signaling 44:21.080 --> 44:21.420 System 44:21.420 --> 44:21.640 Number 44:21.640 --> 44:22.000 Seven 44:22.000 --> 44:22.340 Or 44:22.340 --> 44:22.660 SS 44:22.660 --> 44:23.000 Seven 44:23.000 --> 44:24.280 And 44:24.280 --> 44:24.440 In 44:24.440 --> 44:24.560 The 44:24.560 --> 44:24.720 Old 44:24.720 --> 44:24.980 Days 44:24.980 --> 44:25.300 Before 44:25.300 --> 44:25.620 SS 44:25.620 --> 44:25.960 Seven 44:25.960 --> 44:27.300 There 44:27.300 --> 44:28.040 The 44:28.040 --> 44:28.380 Switches 44:28.380 --> 44:28.740 Used 44:28.740 --> 44:29.520 In 44:29.520 --> 44:29.820 Band 44:29.820 --> 44:30.340 Signaling 44:30.340 --> 44:31.140 Which 44:31.140 --> 44:31.520 Sounded 44:31.520 --> 44:31.600 A 44:31.600 --> 44:31.960 Like 44:31.960 --> 44:32.300 This 44:32.300 --> 44:50.920 A 45:00.920 --> 45:01.380 A 45:01.380 --> 45:02.040 A 45:02.040 --> 45:02.260 A 45:02.260 --> 45:10.060 I'm sorry, the number you have reached is not in service or temporarily disconnected. 45:10.860 --> 45:13.800 The number you have reached is not in service at this time. 45:14.380 --> 45:15.320 This is a recording. 45:16.020 --> 45:22.100 And what the switch would do is it would actually pick up the trunk to the next switch in the line 45:22.100 --> 45:27.500 and literally supervise and send the number in the form of those tones. 45:28.460 --> 45:28.980 Okay. 45:28.980 --> 45:33.680 And, you know, this was kind of a weakness in the phone system 45:33.680 --> 45:38.580 because it allowed phone freaks to actually control the network by using a blue box. 45:39.020 --> 45:41.920 All you had to do was imitate the tones that it sent down the line, 45:42.200 --> 45:46.300 and the switch on the receiving end would not be able to tell the difference between you 45:46.300 --> 45:49.800 and the switch it normally talks to on that trunk. 45:50.820 --> 45:51.100 Gotcha. 45:51.660 --> 45:56.000 So, however, you know, now these days, 45:56.000 --> 45:59.340 the signaling information is not carried on the phone line. 45:59.800 --> 46:02.380 Touchtone, for example, is a way of in-band signaling. 46:02.640 --> 46:04.180 You know, you press buttons, 46:04.680 --> 46:09.480 and the tones actually get sent all the way down the line to the telephone company switch, 46:09.540 --> 46:10.700 which then interprets those tones. 46:11.500 --> 46:13.620 But in the case of call setup, I mean, 46:13.760 --> 46:17.820 note how when you pick up the phone and you dial even a long-distance call, 46:18.200 --> 46:19.820 it starts ringing almost immediately. 46:19.820 --> 46:27.940 Yeah, it's because the phone switches now talk on this packet switch network kind of similar 46:27.940 --> 46:32.800 to the way Internet protocol works, although it's in reality completely different. 46:33.140 --> 46:35.700 But for, you know, basic purposes of understanding, 46:35.840 --> 46:37.860 just imagine a separate packet switch network, 46:38.160 --> 46:40.840 which is not the Internet and which is not the voice telephone network. 46:40.940 --> 46:42.320 This is the SS7 network. 46:42.320 --> 46:47.420 And what it does is it basically sends instructions down the line 46:47.420 --> 46:50.000 and says, you know, to the next office, you know, 46:50.040 --> 46:52.400 hey, set up a call on this trunk to this number. 46:55.100 --> 46:56.540 So it's just more instant. 46:57.780 --> 46:58.720 Yeah, well, it's faster. 46:58.800 --> 47:01.860 You don't have to pick up the trunk, wink, and send tones. 47:02.000 --> 47:04.800 You just send a packet, and the other switch, you know, deals with it almost immediately. 47:06.080 --> 47:07.740 The call setup times are much faster. 47:07.740 --> 47:14.140 So basically the, you know, for longer calls, for shorter inter-office calls, 47:14.520 --> 47:17.300 and note that SS7 is only used for inter-office calls. 47:17.420 --> 47:19.820 It's not used when you're making a call within the same switch. 47:21.360 --> 47:27.800 But SS7 basically for, you know, short inter-office calls that only need to go from one office to the next, 47:27.960 --> 47:30.160 you know, the switches will just talk directly via SS7. 47:30.940 --> 47:34.880 And for longer calls where the call has to be set up over multiple networks and whatnot, 47:34.880 --> 47:40.560 the SS7 call setup information will get passed from one switch to the next, 47:41.120 --> 47:48.200 and they'll all send acknowledgement messages back as the call is set up. 47:49.240 --> 47:51.120 I had a question for you, actually. 47:51.380 --> 47:52.220 Yeah, yeah, ask away. 47:53.040 --> 47:53.420 Okay. 47:53.420 --> 47:58.140 This one seems kind of noobish, but you were talking about how, like, okay, 47:59.220 --> 48:03.340 like when you're making the call, it sends, it looks at the receiving end 48:03.340 --> 48:05.640 and see if there's, like, somebody on the line or not. 48:05.980 --> 48:06.160 Mm-hmm. 48:06.880 --> 48:11.560 So with VoIP, is there, like, can you, like, have more than one person, like, you know, 48:12.020 --> 48:12.860 call you at the same time? 48:14.800 --> 48:15.620 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 48:15.700 --> 48:18.740 That, um, I'll get into that in a second. 48:18.840 --> 48:21.420 But that's, you know, basically dependent on the end equipment. 48:22.380 --> 48:22.740 Gotcha. 48:23.120 --> 48:23.600 But, um. 48:23.600 --> 48:27.240 Okay, yeah, because I was just reading, somebody asked me a question the other day about that, 48:27.340 --> 48:33.640 and I was kind of clueless as to, they were wondering about multiple calls at the same time over at Line, 48:33.840 --> 48:36.220 and I'm like, well, I don't know. 48:36.360 --> 48:39.280 Oh, wasn't I asking you about this, too, for the radio show? 48:40.720 --> 48:42.720 Oh, yeah, I think you were asking me about that. 48:43.720 --> 48:43.980 Okay. 48:44.080 --> 48:45.060 Anyway, I'll explain that. 48:45.560 --> 48:47.320 So, yeah, okay, you can get to that in a second. 48:47.320 --> 48:52.160 Because I had a question about that for, like, for me, because I want to set up an asterisk box. 48:52.700 --> 48:52.980 Okay. 48:53.680 --> 48:54.260 Yeah, no, totally. 48:54.800 --> 48:56.520 Oh, now I remember where I was. 48:57.620 --> 48:58.720 So, yeah. 48:58.720 --> 49:07.960 So, the various switches in the connection will all send acknowledgement messages back as the call is set up. 49:08.180 --> 49:13.300 And, in fact, what's really supposed to happen is, you know, if the call line is busy, you know, 49:13.300 --> 49:22.840 regardless of how many links are in the chain, the call to office is supposed to just send a busy message back to your telephone line, 49:23.520 --> 49:25.120 or not to your telephone line, to your switch. 49:25.800 --> 49:29.480 And your local switch is supposed to give you the busy signal or the ring signal. 49:31.080 --> 49:31.520 Gotcha. 49:31.960 --> 49:32.160 Okay. 49:32.160 --> 49:36.260 And, in fact, like on an ISDN phone, that'll happen. 49:36.860 --> 49:39.880 You'll just hear the ringing from your actual telephone set itself, 49:39.940 --> 49:44.020 because the phone has a similar out-of-band signaling connection to your switch. 49:44.380 --> 49:50.140 So, you'll hear, if you're calling an ISDN line, you'll just hear, you know, the phone ringing in your actual phone, 49:50.220 --> 49:52.420 not the ringing sound from the distant end office. 49:53.420 --> 49:57.840 And a similar thing with VoIP, because VoIP, again, uses the kind of similar out-of-band signaling concepts. 49:57.840 --> 50:04.680 So, I mean, obviously there are situations where this won't work. 50:04.800 --> 50:09.480 Like, for example, there's this new thing where I think personally I think it's kind of dumb, 50:09.740 --> 50:17.120 but you can subscribe to the service from your mobile phone carrier where you replace the sound of ringing with music or whatever. 50:17.860 --> 50:18.920 And I think it's confusing. 50:19.040 --> 50:24.400 I actually ran into this the other day, and I thought it had gone straight to voicemail, so I hung up. 50:24.400 --> 50:28.060 And they called me back, and they said, hey, you called. 50:28.220 --> 50:29.800 Why did you hang up immediately after calling? 50:29.880 --> 50:31.260 I said, wait a second, that was ringing? 50:33.880 --> 50:34.620 So, I think it's more. 50:35.520 --> 50:37.740 Yeah, I was going to say, because I think my service has that. 50:40.000 --> 50:43.500 Yeah, the only thing I would use to replace it with was just replace a standard, you know, 50:43.800 --> 50:48.020 ESS-type ring with something, say, from maybe a number five crossbar or a step 50:48.020 --> 50:51.740 or another old electromechanical switch, but I'm just weird like that, 50:51.740 --> 50:59.840 and I don't think you can actually specify your own audio for that. 51:00.760 --> 51:08.160 So, anyway, mobile phones, digital mobile phones, and VoIP also use similar out-of-band signaling protocols, 51:08.840 --> 51:10.840 and they are different. 51:10.840 --> 51:16.820 The main part of the SS7 VoIP network is the ISDN user part, which is ISUP. 51:17.560 --> 51:22.780 Mobile phones, I think, use mobile telephone application part or mobile application part. 51:22.860 --> 51:26.060 I forget which exactly, which part of the specification that is. 51:27.360 --> 51:34.920 And VoIP phones use either SIP or H.323 or EECS, which are various VoIP signaling protocols. 51:35.260 --> 51:37.020 But the basic ideas are the same. 51:37.020 --> 51:41.000 You know, the call setup information is transmitted as data rather than as tones. 51:44.100 --> 51:48.120 And so you have that question about multiple calls coming in at the same time on VoIP. 51:48.540 --> 51:55.920 Again, yeah, that's, you know, kind of the same idea as call waiting. 51:56.140 --> 52:05.160 You know, in the case of a peer-to-peer arrangement, you know, your telephone set will actually, you know, 52:05.160 --> 52:06.260 not even peer-to-peer. 52:06.320 --> 52:10.320 In the case of any VoIP call, the piece of equipment which is responsible, 52:10.560 --> 52:15.580 the piece of equipment or the piece of software, actually, which is responsible for, you know, handling the call, 52:16.060 --> 52:19.560 you know, when it's sitting idle, obviously it'll take the call and ring. 52:19.660 --> 52:26.200 And then, you know, if the software is designed to have the ability to take more than one call at any given time, 52:26.200 --> 52:31.820 if a second call comes in, then it'll function very similar, you know, to the user to the way call waiting works. 52:31.920 --> 52:36.240 You know, it'll say, you know, oh, okay, yeah, this call is being set up. 52:36.700 --> 52:37.400 I'm ringing the phone. 52:37.480 --> 52:37.860 Please hold. 52:39.140 --> 52:41.580 And if it's not, it'll just send back a busy message. 52:42.120 --> 52:43.080 How about the software? 52:43.180 --> 52:44.360 Is it easily customizable? 52:44.560 --> 52:47.360 Can you, like, go in and customize it for your needs? 52:47.540 --> 52:49.280 Well, I think it depends on the package. 52:50.900 --> 52:54.700 I mean, as far as going in and customizing from user-level control panel options, 52:54.700 --> 52:55.820 is that depends on the package. 52:56.300 --> 53:00.540 And as far as actually rewriting it, I mean, but honestly, if you're using a SIP client 53:00.540 --> 53:04.260 that doesn't do more than one call at a time and you're considering rewriting it, 53:04.520 --> 53:06.940 I would probably suggest that you go find a different SIP client 53:06.940 --> 53:11.580 because I think most of them do handle more than one call at any given time. 53:12.440 --> 53:12.800 Awesome. 53:13.060 --> 53:13.280 Okay. 53:14.500 --> 53:18.620 What's actually kind of interesting is a lot of times, like, one thing I find quite useful, 53:18.760 --> 53:24.160 mobile phones served out of five ESS will often do this thing where when you call them, 53:24.160 --> 53:29.520 you'll know if the call party is on another call already while it's ringing. 53:30.180 --> 53:35.580 Instead of hearing, you'll hear something like this. 53:38.100 --> 53:41.760 Yeah, I was just going to mention, because, like, I'm on a five ESS. 53:42.520 --> 53:42.980 You have a mobile phone? 53:43.940 --> 53:44.300 Yes. 53:44.480 --> 53:47.700 And so, like, I can tell, like, when there's somebody on the other line. 53:48.100 --> 53:48.300 Mm-hmm. 53:48.960 --> 53:50.280 Yeah, because you have a slightly different ring. 53:50.320 --> 53:51.440 And I think that's an awesome feature. 53:51.440 --> 53:56.040 I wish that were the case on all telephones, but I guess I can't have my way all the time. 53:57.320 --> 54:00.520 So that's basically how SS7 works. 54:00.600 --> 54:07.120 It sends, you know, call setup messages and says, you know, hey, here's the number that's being called. 54:07.220 --> 54:09.240 Here's the number that's calling this number. 54:09.240 --> 54:12.660 Here's the number that the call is being billed to. 54:13.220 --> 54:16.560 Here's the forwarding number if this call is being forwarded. 54:17.320 --> 54:18.000 And so on. 54:18.000 --> 54:23.420 And, you know, the actual SS7 specification is, you know, hundreds of pages long. 54:23.540 --> 54:28.200 And there are, you know, there are messages for every conceivable possibility. 54:28.720 --> 54:31.720 And there's, you know, there's different types of messages. 54:31.880 --> 54:32.520 Again, there's numbers. 54:32.800 --> 54:35.020 There's the class of service of the originating lines. 54:35.200 --> 54:41.360 So they switch and tell whether you're calling from a pay phone or a mobile phone or a house phone or a hotel phone or anything. 54:41.360 --> 54:43.860 And those are called A and I, I, I digits. 54:45.440 --> 54:50.100 And so, I mean, there's just tons and tons of information that can be sent. 54:50.180 --> 54:51.600 Not all of it is sent all the time. 54:52.140 --> 54:59.760 But there certainly is written into the specification, you know, messages for almost every eventual possibility. 55:01.740 --> 55:04.800 So to the next query from the forum. 55:06.360 --> 55:10.740 Merck says, it would be cool if you did something on the internals of asterisk 55:10.740 --> 55:12.040 and PBXs in general. 55:14.260 --> 55:15.260 Well, that's a good question. 55:15.340 --> 55:17.300 Because I had some questions the other day about this, too. 55:18.380 --> 55:24.540 Because we were sending, like, I was talking to you about wanting to set up a asterisk box for Geek Love Radio. 55:24.900 --> 55:26.520 And how we would go about that. 55:26.640 --> 55:30.200 And, like, what, I mean, like, how easy is it, you know? 55:30.360 --> 55:30.500 And, like. 55:31.300 --> 55:31.640 Right. 55:31.940 --> 55:34.240 Well, I mean, I'm not, and he continues the question, 55:34.380 --> 55:37.460 and internals of different exchange systems such as the Lucent 5 ESS. 55:37.820 --> 55:38.020 Oh. 55:38.120 --> 55:39.060 So, yeah. 55:39.060 --> 55:40.480 Way more deeper in depth than that. 55:40.480 --> 55:40.720 Yeah. 55:41.180 --> 55:44.080 Well, I'm not really sure what he means by internals. 55:44.160 --> 55:45.600 Does he mean the software that runs them? 55:45.660 --> 55:48.000 Does he mean the actual switching matrix itself? 55:48.520 --> 55:49.860 Or switching matrix itself? 55:50.160 --> 55:55.600 So, I'll just try and answer both possibilities. 55:56.280 --> 55:58.840 As far as the switching matrix itself goes, 55:58.840 --> 56:06.460 the way time division switching works is that, okay, all audio on the phone network these days is digital PCM. 56:06.460 --> 56:16.260 It's a MULA PCM, and it's 8,000 samples a second, and it's 8 bits wide, and it's companded using something called MULA companding, 56:16.740 --> 56:25.080 which basically uses a logarithmic scale to encode the amplitude of the waveform at that specific point. 56:25.080 --> 56:33.760 And so, by using a logarithmic scale, you get more resolution at the lower amplitudes where the majority of human voice energy actually is. 56:33.960 --> 56:36.160 So, you get what sounds like 16-bit audio. 56:36.560 --> 56:40.040 But as you get to the higher amplitudes, you know, when people are shouting into the phone, 56:40.340 --> 56:43.560 then you lose resolution that sounds closer to 8-bit audio. 56:43.560 --> 56:48.660 But it's a neat little trick that gives you the impression of 16-bit audio on an 8-bit connection. 56:50.700 --> 56:52.840 And that's what we're talking on right now is MULAW. 56:54.620 --> 56:55.060 Sweet. 56:55.560 --> 57:03.320 So, at 8,000 samples a second, you know, it's 8-bit PCM 8,000, which is 64 kilobits a second, 57:03.440 --> 57:06.680 which is the standard bandwidth of any, you know, telephone trunk. 57:07.340 --> 57:07.760 Yeah. 57:07.760 --> 57:13.320 And which explains why you can't get more than 56 kilobits a second on a modem, 57:13.440 --> 57:18.720 because I forget the exact specific explanation, 57:18.900 --> 57:25.000 but it has to do with the fact that you lose a certain amount of bandwidth by going to tones 57:25.000 --> 57:27.360 and then going back from tones and being on analog lines. 57:28.000 --> 57:32.020 So, you can only guarantee up to 56 kilobits a second. 57:32.220 --> 57:33.100 But I digress. 57:33.100 --> 57:41.560 Anyway, so your voice is chopped up into little, you know, bits of 8-bit data, 57:41.700 --> 57:43.900 little individual bits of data at any given time. 57:44.520 --> 57:55.760 And a T1 basically, you know, transmits 24 8-bit frames in one go plus a framing bit. 57:55.760 --> 58:02.400 So, you get 193 bits at 8,000 times a second, which gives you 1.544 megabits a second, 58:02.480 --> 58:03.620 which is the bandwidth of a T1. 58:04.660 --> 58:06.400 So, it just loops through all of these. 58:06.520 --> 58:09.180 And so, it does something called time division. 58:09.780 --> 58:17.120 So, in one 1-8,000th of a second, it actually transmits sequentially all 24 samples. 58:17.220 --> 58:17.960 So, that's given time. 58:17.960 --> 58:24.860 And so, you know, so if you're in time slot 13, you know, whatever the switch is listening for is, you know, 58:25.040 --> 58:29.020 time slot 13, 13, 13, as it comes back again and again and again and again and again. 58:30.260 --> 58:37.740 So, the internal switching matrix of a DMS100, and I believe the 5ESS is the same as well, is kind of similar. 58:37.920 --> 58:40.560 It's, again, time division switching matrix similar to a T1. 58:40.560 --> 58:43.680 But instead of 24, it has 32 channels. 58:44.400 --> 58:48.120 And they can, you know, repeat this as needed based on the capacity of the switch. 58:48.160 --> 58:50.620 But the basic module of this has 32 channels. 58:51.120 --> 58:52.420 And for the most part, it's just the same. 58:52.520 --> 58:59.020 What happens is, you know, there are various time slots. 58:59.120 --> 59:03.760 And I forget whether there are, I think one of two things happens. 59:04.280 --> 59:07.500 Either, you know, say you're making that intra-office call to your neighbor. 59:07.500 --> 59:12.960 Either you two get connected to the same time slot in the switching matrix. 59:13.200 --> 59:17.460 Or you get connected to one time slot, and your neighbor gets connected to a different time slot. 59:17.520 --> 59:19.960 Say you're on 8, she's on 25. 59:20.700 --> 59:24.500 And then those two are connected together internally in the switch. 59:25.880 --> 59:34.260 Either way, basically, you know, you've got just this band of data going by that the computer is processing. 59:34.260 --> 59:38.420 And you only get to hear the bits which are pertinent to your conversation. 59:40.600 --> 59:44.960 And I believe asterisk is TDM internally as well as time division. 59:45.080 --> 59:46.040 It's not VoIP internally. 59:46.880 --> 59:48.780 So all the switching is TDM. 59:49.920 --> 59:53.740 But basically, very basically, that's how that works. 59:55.660 --> 59:59.440 Now, as far as, you know, the internal software of the various systems, 59:59.540 --> 01:00:00.860 they couldn't be more different from one another. 01:00:00.860 --> 01:00:05.380 If you're a wizard asterisk, you will have no idea how to use DMS. 01:00:05.500 --> 01:00:08.920 And if you're a wizard with DMS, you'll have no idea how to use a 5ESS because, you know, 01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:10.040 the interfaces are totally different. 01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:13.920 But as far as actually programming the DMS and the 5ESS, you know, 01:00:14.260 --> 01:00:20.120 these are, for the most part, technologies which came about in the late 70s, early 80s. 01:00:20.120 --> 01:00:23.240 So you can still administer them from a VT100. 01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:26.440 It's all, you know, typed commands. 01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:29.600 And it's all pretty much just keyboard-based. 01:00:29.680 --> 01:00:32.240 There is no graphical user interface for a DMS or a 5ESS. 01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:36.220 In fact, the 5E, if I remember correctly, runs a specific variant of Unix. 01:00:38.180 --> 01:00:38.540 Gotcha. 01:00:39.980 --> 01:00:43.740 Which helps explain why Unix is so stable, because it was designed for telephony environments. 01:00:43.740 --> 01:00:46.640 But, of course, of course. 01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:48.620 Thank you, Bell Telephone Laboratories Incorporated. 01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:53.440 All right. 01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:58.180 So, let's see if there's anyone on... 01:00:58.180 --> 01:00:59.460 No, no one's in the queue. 01:00:59.780 --> 01:01:02.180 I guess no one wants to call in. 01:01:02.640 --> 01:01:06.400 I'm sure this would be far more successful if we actually did the show live. 01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:15.120 So, if you guys out there have any questions or comments about the way the call-in thing should work 01:01:15.120 --> 01:01:20.320 or the way you'd like it to work or whatnot, just mail it on in, and we'll take it under consideration. 01:01:22.240 --> 01:01:28.080 So, Right Coast sent an email in response to my query for comments. 01:01:28.880 --> 01:01:29.360 He says, 01:01:30.160 --> 01:01:30.900 Greetings, Strom. 01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:34.500 I had to burp there for a second. 01:01:34.500 --> 01:01:43.540 Right Coast sent an email, and he says, 01:01:43.740 --> 01:01:44.420 Greetings, Strom. 01:01:45.540 --> 01:01:46.040 Google... 01:01:46.040 --> 01:01:46.460 Hey, what'd you know? 01:01:46.520 --> 01:01:47.540 It's another Google email. 01:01:48.420 --> 01:01:53.780 Google has always been a company whose initial forays into a technology only foreshadow grander plans. 01:01:54.700 --> 01:01:55.260 Tudor... 01:01:55.260 --> 01:01:58.220 Tudor ratio, Softpedia Tech Editor writes, 01:01:58.220 --> 01:02:00.600 It's more than likely that Google Talk won't stop here, 01:02:00.940 --> 01:02:03.700 its goal being more than just PC-to-PC communications. 01:02:04.500 --> 01:02:08.500 Just as three months ago, we were 90% sure that Google will launch an IM client. 01:02:08.900 --> 01:02:14.320 Today, we can say with confidence that in less than three months, Google Talk will be integrated with cellular telephony. 01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:17.000 So, that's the quote. 01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:18.780 And then Right Coast continues on. 01:02:18.780 --> 01:02:24.700 I would love to hear your guys' collective thoughts on what that means and explain in greater detail its possible effects. 01:02:25.100 --> 01:02:27.360 Not in a Google-owns-the-world kind of way. 01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:31.860 I would like to hear the impact of that on our current communications and telephony model. 01:02:32.300 --> 01:02:37.340 Whether Google refines and implements the idea in a generally accepted way, or another company does, 01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:41.860 how would that affect consumers, companies, and our current communications model in the short and long term? 01:02:41.860 --> 01:02:43.640 Regards, Right Coast. 01:02:44.260 --> 01:02:51.500 And there actually was another question, which I'm going to read back here and roll into this. 01:02:51.980 --> 01:02:54.080 This is from Magnum IP on the forums. 01:02:54.220 --> 01:02:55.020 I love that handle. 01:02:57.080 --> 01:02:59.400 I love the wordplay in the handle, Magnum IP. 01:03:00.200 --> 01:03:04.300 We had a contest to find this guy a new handle, and Magnum IP was the winner. 01:03:04.420 --> 01:03:06.000 I didn't suggest it, but I love it. 01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:12.440 Anyway, he writes, I would like to know the impact Verizon's Fios is going to have on landlines. 01:03:12.860 --> 01:03:16.960 To be more precise, what is the good-slash-bad points of copper and fiber optics? 01:03:17.960 --> 01:03:25.280 For those of you who don't know, Fios is a new service Verizon is offering where they actually bring fiber optic cable to your premises, 01:03:25.520 --> 01:03:27.420 to your house, or to your apartment building, or whatever. 01:03:28.420 --> 01:03:34.020 And this has actually kind of been the wet dream of telephony experts for 25 years now. 01:03:34.020 --> 01:03:38.500 I recall reading a book about the Bell system that was written in 1978 and 1979. 01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:44.460 And they were hot on the trail of fiber to a premises, even then. 01:03:45.160 --> 01:03:47.760 But just for telephony, it doesn't quite work. 01:03:47.820 --> 01:03:50.660 But for data and telephony, it's really intriguing. 01:03:51.160 --> 01:03:59.900 Because with fiber, you can get a lot more band without a fiber than you can out of a DSL connection. 01:03:59.900 --> 01:04:07.600 But my DSL connection that I'm talking to you on right now is 6 megabit down, 608 kilobit per second up. 01:04:08.660 --> 01:04:16.800 And what Verizon's Fios is, it's like 15 megabit down and I think 5 megabit up or 3 megabit up or something like that. 01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:23.320 And that's a fraction of what a fiber optic cable can carry. 01:04:23.560 --> 01:04:29.200 You know, if you look at the optical carrier systems that the telephone networks use for their internal trunking over fiber, 01:04:29.660 --> 01:04:38.860 you know, on one fiber pair, you can have, you know, easily, you know, 54 megabits a second for a, sorry, 45 megabits a second for a DS3. 01:04:38.860 --> 01:04:46.160 Let me, let me pull up the page I have that lists all the capacities, because I don't know these off the top of my head. 01:04:54.000 --> 01:05:01.680 All right, on a single fiber pair, you know, an OC3 is 126 megabits a second. 01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:06.040 And you can even do, you know, up to OC192, which is 8,064 megabits a second. 01:05:06.040 --> 01:05:11.000 And they've got OC768 now, which is, you know, many times 192. 01:05:11.260 --> 01:05:15.640 And you can even multiplex OC whatever's onto fiber. 01:05:16.020 --> 01:05:21.640 You can use something called wavelength division multiplexing, which puts each different circuit at a different wavelength on the same fiber. 01:05:22.160 --> 01:05:26.280 And then you have something at the other end, which decodes the different wavelengths and splits them all out. 01:05:26.980 --> 01:05:29.500 But the capacity of fiber is just absolutely mind-boggling. 01:05:29.500 --> 01:05:36.620 So what Verizon is offering now to its consumers is, you know, like kind of throwing a toothpick into a volcano as far as bandwidth is concerned. 01:05:39.060 --> 01:05:53.480 So, you know, but what impact this will have is, you know, the main barrier to the deployment of VoIP as a replacement for standard copper, you know, copper telephone lines 01:05:53.480 --> 01:05:55.140 has been bandwidth and latency. 01:05:56.260 --> 01:06:02.600 Most standard cable modem connections are 1.5 megabits down and 128 kilobits a second up. 01:06:03.180 --> 01:06:06.200 And that goes the same for most standard low-end DSL. 01:06:07.340 --> 01:06:14.440 And, you know, that will handle reliably one single call at regular telephone network quality, 01:06:14.560 --> 01:06:17.640 assuming you don't do much else with your DSL at that moment. 01:06:17.640 --> 01:06:22.800 You know, you can have something check in email, you can do some, like, web serving, but the minute you start downloading something, 01:06:22.940 --> 01:06:26.740 your call is just totally useless as far as talking on. 01:06:27.500 --> 01:06:33.300 So what will happen once, you know, higher bandwidth DSL becomes norm and, you know, 01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:42.520 and once fiber starts displacing copper to the premises is that you're actually going to see copper telephone lines start to slowly become a thing of the past. 01:06:42.520 --> 01:06:50.260 I'm pretty sure that there will at some point in the not-too-distant future be a time where you won't be able to order a copper telephone line anymore. 01:06:50.620 --> 01:06:52.800 You'll have to order fiber and then run VoIP over it. 01:06:53.020 --> 01:06:58.920 You know, copper telephone lines will remain as a grandfather's service, but for all new service, 01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:01.160 you're going to have to order fiber and run VoIP over that. 01:07:02.020 --> 01:07:11.600 And even if you don't run VoIP over it, you know, the phone company can easily provision a data circuit and a phone circuit on the same piece of fiber. 01:07:11.600 --> 01:07:17.220 You know, it's a straight time division phone circuit versus having VoIPs all the way out to your premises. 01:07:17.420 --> 01:07:23.640 But even so, the telephone network is actually going to change dramatically in the next 10 to 15 years. 01:07:24.260 --> 01:07:26.800 Right now, it's for the most part all time division. 01:07:27.060 --> 01:07:32.580 You know, all the switches operate on a time division matrix and all the circuits between them are, you know, 01:07:32.640 --> 01:07:36.960 channelized DS1s and DS3s with individual channels for individual phone calls. 01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:42.140 But since the majority of traffic going over the network these days is actually data, 01:07:42.520 --> 01:07:49.340 it makes more sense for the phone companies to transition their networks to be from – or where was I going with this? 01:07:49.740 --> 01:07:53.200 It's easier for the – it makes more sense, you know, logically, network-wise, 01:07:53.260 --> 01:07:57.620 for the phone companies to abandon their time division networks and move to packet switch networks 01:07:57.620 --> 01:07:59.540 and basically run IP on their networks. 01:07:59.540 --> 01:08:06.960 And if done correctly, an IP phone call sounds absolutely no different from a standard time division phone call. 01:08:07.460 --> 01:08:14.000 As long as you've got enough bandwidth and low enough latency to throw at it, then it should sound exactly the same. 01:08:15.180 --> 01:08:15.400 Okay. 01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:23.320 And so, you know, what will happen basically is that the phone companies will, again, 01:08:23.460 --> 01:08:26.940 eventually stop offering standard wireline telephone service. 01:08:27.080 --> 01:08:28.780 You'll just have VoIP out to your premises. 01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:32.120 And from there, you know, they'll probably give you a terminal adapter that gives you an Ethernet connection 01:08:32.120 --> 01:08:36.740 and, you know, an analog phone connection for your existing phones. 01:08:36.800 --> 01:08:40.420 And then as analog phones become a thing of the past and we have, you know, VoIP phones all over the place, 01:08:40.420 --> 01:08:45.100 they'll just, you know, you'll have one network on your – at your premises that you plug all your computers 01:08:45.100 --> 01:08:52.100 and your telephones into and telephony will basically become another application delivered over IP. 01:08:53.420 --> 01:08:53.780 Okay. 01:08:53.900 --> 01:08:55.820 Now I can see how this can become, like, useful. 01:08:56.540 --> 01:09:02.080 But, like, say, for instance, like, okay, here in Iowa where, like, VoIP is barely, you know, showing up. 01:09:02.220 --> 01:09:02.480 Mm-hmm. 01:09:03.740 --> 01:09:10.400 Like, and just – to be honest, there's, like, areas in Iowa just that don't even – 01:09:10.400 --> 01:09:12.360 they don't have phones or, like, barely just got phones. 01:09:12.620 --> 01:09:12.900 Mm-hmm. 01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:15.280 And, like, I mean, it's just not Iowa. 01:09:15.400 --> 01:09:19.820 There's, like, places, like, all around the country, you know, that, like, some areas are just, like, so not – 01:09:19.820 --> 01:09:26.240 I mean, who's going to want running cable out to, like, the middle of a field, like, where there's nothing for 200 acres 01:09:26.240 --> 01:09:28.300 or, like, miles or whatever, you know? 01:09:28.940 --> 01:09:30.840 Like, how practical is it going to be for that? 01:09:31.060 --> 01:09:34.480 And, like, and so is it – like, how is it going to affect that? 01:09:35.040 --> 01:09:40.540 Well, I mean, for some areas, obviously, you know, that either there isn't enough demand for data 01:09:40.540 --> 01:09:44.620 or, you know, it's too expensive to run fiber out to the premises. 01:09:45.340 --> 01:09:47.640 You know, well, see, the thing about running fiber is, for the most part, 01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:50.420 it costs about the same as running copper. 01:09:51.440 --> 01:09:55.480 In fact, it may be cheaper because you can, you know, you can run fiber – 01:09:56.020 --> 01:10:00.060 I'm saying, assume you run a fiber cable and a copper cable of the same, you know, diameter. 01:10:00.820 --> 01:10:03.940 The cost as far as, you know, labor is going to be the same. 01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:08.520 And, you know, labor ends up being the main cost component of running this stuff, 01:10:08.580 --> 01:10:09.840 not the actual materials themselves. 01:10:10.700 --> 01:10:14.360 So, you know, there are, you know, rural places where – 01:10:14.360 --> 01:10:17.420 sure, they don't have phones, but there are rural places where they do have telephones. 01:10:18.080 --> 01:10:19.160 And it's exactly the same. 01:10:19.160 --> 01:10:23.000 They can, you know – the good thing about fiber is that it doesn't suffer the problems, 01:10:23.260 --> 01:10:24.780 you know, the length limits that copper does. 01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:29.160 With copper, you can only have a loop of a certain length. 01:10:29.160 --> 01:10:34.280 You can only – you know, you can put load coils on it and get it, you know, 01:10:34.300 --> 01:10:35.700 and extend the range of the copper. 01:10:36.080 --> 01:10:40.320 But – and that's totally analog, and that destroys your ability to have any sort of data service on that loop. 01:10:40.880 --> 01:10:44.800 But for voice service, you know, you can get that copper loop, you know, 01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:47.220 going a considerable amount of distance. 01:10:47.360 --> 01:10:48.680 Obviously, you can't extend it forever. 01:10:48.920 --> 01:10:53.560 But you can extend it, you know, several miles beyond what it would normally handle. 01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:59.160 And the nice thing about fiber is you only need to – all you need to do is put a repeater along the line 01:10:59.160 --> 01:11:01.600 every, you know, 15 to 30 miles, I think. 01:11:02.380 --> 01:11:05.460 I think it might even be more depending on the type of equipment used. 01:11:05.900 --> 01:11:08.140 But, you know, just as long as you have those little repeaters, 01:11:09.340 --> 01:11:16.200 you can really – you can easily have someone on one side of the county being served out of a switch 01:11:16.200 --> 01:11:20.400 on the complete other end of the county, you know, and if you have a total – a complete fiber connection 01:11:20.400 --> 01:11:26.940 out to their premises, it's not going to be any different from someone who served out of a – you know, 01:11:26.980 --> 01:11:28.620 served across the street from the switch. 01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:36.680 So, in fact, the – once fiber becomes the de facto method of delivering telephony 01:11:36.680 --> 01:11:46.300 and data services to customers, it'll be, you know, more reasonable to run, you know, services out to the consumers 01:11:46.300 --> 01:11:47.100 way out in the sticks. 01:11:48.060 --> 01:11:48.420 Yeah. 01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:52.680 I was going to say, because, like, I mean, half – I mean, there's people that I know that are, like, 01:11:52.700 --> 01:11:53.900 barely getting internet, you know. 01:11:54.780 --> 01:12:01.480 And so, I mean, like, I could see how things – I mean, obviously, things are going to move along faster, you know, 01:12:01.520 --> 01:12:03.160 where there's more people and the need for it. 01:12:03.160 --> 01:12:07.080 But I was just, like – I guess, like, just wondering, like, cost-wise, you know, 01:12:07.120 --> 01:12:11.800 and just, like, I guess how it would affect – but – 01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:17.840 Well, yeah, I think cost-wise, you know, copper and fiber – fiber is – I'm not really sure 01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:19.020 what's more expensive these days. 01:12:19.220 --> 01:12:24.160 You know, I think on a per-foot basis, probably – copper is probably a lot cheaper than fiber. 01:12:24.520 --> 01:12:32.380 But considering that, you know, on one strand of fiber, you can run, you know, 8, 16, 24,000 telephone calls, 01:12:33.160 --> 01:12:38.260 sorry, on one fiber, on an OC192, you can run 129,000 telephone calls. 01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:40.220 You know, and that's just one OC192. 01:12:40.300 --> 01:12:45.720 So on one single fiber pair, you can run a hell of a lot more than you can on any copper cable 01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:47.240 you could possibly dream of. 01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:48.120 Oh, yeah. 01:12:48.120 --> 01:12:50.700 So it's a really, really, really thick copper cable. 01:12:51.100 --> 01:12:54.860 So per actual physical foot, I think fiber is more expensive. 01:12:54.860 --> 01:12:59.280 But as far as, you know, utilization per foot, the cost of fiber is a lot less. 01:12:59.280 --> 01:13:03.920 That's why, you know, pretty much every long-distance – every part of the long-distance network these days 01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:06.840 and every part of the inter-exchange network these days is fiber rather than copper. 01:13:07.460 --> 01:13:12.780 So the cost of delivering high-bandwidth data services to consumers is going to go down as well. 01:13:14.280 --> 01:13:16.720 I mean, look at Verizon Fios. 01:13:16.840 --> 01:13:21.080 The cost of getting, you know, a DS3 is thousands of dollars a month, 01:13:21.140 --> 01:13:26.140 and the cost of getting Verizon consumer fiber to the prem is, you know, 50 bucks a month. 01:13:26.140 --> 01:13:30.380 The only downside of this, of course, is you need to have electricity at both ends, 01:13:30.460 --> 01:13:35.000 whereas, you know, with a copper phone line, you have the electricity to run the phone 01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:36.920 is delivered from the phone company. 01:13:37.860 --> 01:13:39.240 So that's the only downside, you know. 01:13:39.280 --> 01:13:41.020 And there are ways to screw it up. 01:13:41.120 --> 01:13:44.840 In Las Vegas, where I used to live, there was fiber to the curb. 01:13:45.780 --> 01:13:47.700 Yeah, fiber to the curb delivered by Sprint. 01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:52.660 And they had just done some really asinine things with the way they provisioned it. 01:13:52.660 --> 01:13:53.580 It was bit robbed. 01:13:53.680 --> 01:13:56.180 It wasn't, you know, full 64 kilobits a second. 01:13:56.620 --> 01:13:58.580 So you have this kind of whining noise in the background. 01:13:59.500 --> 01:14:02.220 And that's basically, they can do that on a DS0. 01:14:02.420 --> 01:14:08.300 They insert a, they use every, you know, one bit every certain number of frames 01:14:08.300 --> 01:14:10.380 to indicate whether you're on or off hook. 01:14:11.980 --> 01:14:13.920 And that is called bit robbing. 01:14:13.980 --> 01:14:16.800 That gives you only 56 kilobits a second versus 64. 01:14:17.800 --> 01:14:20.320 And it can make, you know, make it sound worse. 01:14:20.380 --> 01:14:21.660 But if you're, you know, you're running all data 01:14:21.660 --> 01:14:23.260 and you're doing all VoIP out to the consumer, 01:14:23.360 --> 01:14:25.860 then you can do full 64 kilobits a second. 01:14:25.980 --> 01:14:26.880 You can even do more. 01:14:26.980 --> 01:14:28.080 You can do wider bandwidth. 01:14:28.780 --> 01:14:30.380 You can do 128 kilobits a second. 01:14:30.540 --> 01:14:36.460 You can do 30, you know, 16-bit audio at, you know, 16,000 hertz, 24,000 hertz. 01:14:36.560 --> 01:14:39.100 You know, it'll sound amazing, but it'll use up a lot of bandwidth. 01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:41.660 But again, if you've got the bandwidth to throw at it, 01:14:41.660 --> 01:14:43.560 then it'll sound wonderful. 01:14:44.660 --> 01:14:50.220 So going back to the question that was asked about Google, you know, 01:14:50.220 --> 01:14:52.780 how will this change, how will, you know, 01:14:52.840 --> 01:14:57.320 Google VoIP's ability to do peer-to-peer phone calls change the telephony market? 01:14:57.440 --> 01:15:01.100 I honestly don't think it's going to have that huge of an impact 01:15:01.100 --> 01:15:05.100 because, you know, for the most part, you know, you've got, you know, 01:15:05.100 --> 01:15:09.520 you've got to chat with a person and say, hey, do you want to set up a phone call now? 01:15:10.400 --> 01:15:12.260 And they have to be sitting there, and they have to say, oh, okay. 01:15:12.460 --> 01:15:13.600 Then you have to set up the phone call. 01:15:13.640 --> 01:15:14.640 They have to acknowledge and whatnot. 01:15:15.080 --> 01:15:18.460 Whereas, you know, with a telephone, you just dial the number regardless of what's there, 01:15:18.520 --> 01:15:19.420 and you can leave them a voicemail. 01:15:20.340 --> 01:15:24.540 And I think, honestly, from a human factors point of view, 01:15:24.580 --> 01:15:28.020 the telephone makes more sense simply because you pick up the phone, 01:15:28.200 --> 01:15:32.480 you dial a 10-digit number, and you're talking to the other party. 01:15:32.860 --> 01:15:36.400 And whereas Google VoIP, you know, you've got, instead of a handset, 01:15:36.780 --> 01:15:38.540 you've just got your own microphone and speakers. 01:15:39.520 --> 01:15:44.060 And that leads to echo problems, and, you know, most, a lot of people don't have, 01:15:44.120 --> 01:15:48.160 you know, the correct setup for VoIP, and, you know, it can be a pain. 01:15:48.260 --> 01:15:51.040 So I don't think, honestly, that the fact that Google VoIP has, 01:15:51.700 --> 01:15:54.860 we're kind of getting close to the end, so. 01:15:55.300 --> 01:15:58.880 I don't think the fact that Google VoIP has a peer-to-peer thing built into it 01:15:58.880 --> 01:16:02.780 in and of itself is going to be that detrimental to the telephone industry. 01:16:02.780 --> 01:16:15.520 But, you know, I think it'll raise awareness of VoIP, sure. 01:16:15.700 --> 01:16:19.520 But, you know, there's Skype, and Skype isn't making that many inroads 01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:20.360 into the phone industry. 01:16:20.500 --> 01:16:24.400 You know, what's really going to do it is Asterisk and the other services 01:16:24.400 --> 01:16:25.980 where they actually give you a real telephone. 01:16:26.940 --> 01:16:27.140 Yeah. 01:16:27.140 --> 01:16:30.120 Or at least some simulation thereof, you know, 01:16:30.180 --> 01:16:32.120 a terminal adapter where you plug in a real telephone. 01:16:32.940 --> 01:16:33.160 Mm-hmm. 01:16:33.940 --> 01:16:37.340 So that's what's going to happen there. 01:16:37.340 --> 01:16:41.900 But as far as Google Talk on cell phones, 01:16:42.940 --> 01:16:45.360 you know, we have instant messaging on mobile phones already. 01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:46.580 That's nothing new. 01:16:46.680 --> 01:16:47.620 It's just a different platform. 01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:51.240 VoIP on mobile phones is going to be a considerably different story 01:16:51.240 --> 01:16:54.080 because mobile phones don't give you really enough bandwidth 01:16:54.080 --> 01:16:56.120 to do any sort of reasonable VoIP. 01:16:56.200 --> 01:16:57.400 You can do compressed VoIP. 01:16:58.200 --> 01:16:59.620 You know, you can do G.739. 01:16:59.960 --> 01:17:00.880 You can do GSM. 01:17:01.180 --> 01:17:03.420 But, you know, if your phone already does GSM natively, 01:17:03.880 --> 01:17:04.580 it doesn't make a difference. 01:17:04.580 --> 01:17:08.600 And also, GPRS bandwidth, you know, 01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:11.620 tends to be expensive for mobile phone companies. 01:17:11.760 --> 01:17:14.900 There are unlimited plans you can get, like, from T-Mobile for the Sidekick. 01:17:15.580 --> 01:17:19.640 But, I mean, for the most part, you pay per kilobyte with GPRS. 01:17:19.740 --> 01:17:21.780 And for VoIP, that's just not going to fly. 01:17:23.260 --> 01:17:25.620 And, I mean, it would be great to be able to do VoIP 01:17:25.620 --> 01:17:27.680 from my mobile phone to my asterisk box 01:17:27.680 --> 01:17:30.760 and do pure 64 kilobit a second MULA 01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:33.320 from my mobile phone to my asterisk box. 01:17:33.320 --> 01:17:35.980 And that may eventually happen someday 01:17:35.980 --> 01:17:39.180 when they are able to throw more bandwidth in the air 01:17:39.180 --> 01:17:40.220 at mobile phone consumers. 01:17:40.480 --> 01:17:42.340 But, for the time being, 01:17:42.500 --> 01:17:44.800 I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon. 01:17:48.160 --> 01:17:48.880 What are your thoughts? 01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:49.500 I have a question. 01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:50.120 Sure. 01:17:50.860 --> 01:17:52.320 Okay, so, um... 01:17:52.900 --> 01:17:53.920 Oh, never mind, actually. 01:17:54.880 --> 01:17:55.180 All right. 01:17:55.620 --> 01:17:56.020 That's all right. 01:17:56.200 --> 01:17:57.740 I can ask you some other time. 01:17:58.200 --> 01:17:59.920 Well, I mean, if it's a question 01:17:59.920 --> 01:18:01.640 that the audience might find useful, 01:18:01.640 --> 01:18:02.640 then go ahead and ask it. 01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:04.500 No, I'm sorry. 01:18:04.860 --> 01:18:06.360 I'll post it in the forums and stuff. 01:18:06.480 --> 01:18:09.220 It'll bring up some good topics to talk about. 01:18:09.620 --> 01:18:09.980 You sure? 01:18:10.600 --> 01:18:10.860 Yeah. 01:18:11.100 --> 01:18:12.260 Well, ask me the question anyway. 01:18:12.420 --> 01:18:14.140 We can edit it out if you don't like it. 01:18:15.040 --> 01:18:16.300 Well, I was just going to ask you 01:18:16.300 --> 01:18:18.000 about, like, the 5ESS, 01:18:18.200 --> 01:18:19.360 because you were saying, like, 01:18:19.460 --> 01:18:20.640 just the... 01:18:20.640 --> 01:18:22.960 Like, you were saying how 01:18:22.960 --> 01:18:26.360 one line of fiber can hold, like, 01:18:26.620 --> 01:18:27.460 I forget how many, 01:18:27.980 --> 01:18:29.460 like, different lines. 01:18:29.520 --> 01:18:30.180 How many did you say? 01:18:30.320 --> 01:18:32.180 Oh, 126,000 phone lines. 01:18:33.460 --> 01:18:34.300 126,000. 01:18:35.140 --> 01:18:36.960 Like, how about, then, like, 01:18:37.320 --> 01:18:37.640 with... 01:18:37.640 --> 01:18:42.520 With, like, the copper. 01:18:43.460 --> 01:18:44.340 Like, what's... 01:18:44.340 --> 01:18:45.640 I mean, like, total... 01:18:46.520 --> 01:18:48.280 Total bandwidth on copper? 01:18:49.040 --> 01:18:49.440 Yeah. 01:18:50.340 --> 01:18:51.500 From the switch out 01:18:51.500 --> 01:18:53.640 to the subscriber's premises, or... 01:18:54.680 --> 01:18:55.060 Yeah. 01:18:55.180 --> 01:18:55.600 Well, okay, 01:18:55.680 --> 01:18:55.980 because, like, 01:18:56.000 --> 01:18:56.960 I'm reading right now online. 01:18:57.300 --> 01:18:57.520 Mm-hmm. 01:18:57.580 --> 01:18:57.960 It says, 01:18:58.360 --> 01:18:58.820 it says, 01:18:59.180 --> 01:19:01.360 today's 5ESS is jam-packed with modules 01:19:01.360 --> 01:19:02.580 that can make switching easy enough 01:19:02.580 --> 01:19:04.680 for any printer monkey to run. 01:19:04.860 --> 01:19:05.740 This is, like, a... 01:19:05.740 --> 01:19:06.540 just a transcript 01:19:06.540 --> 01:19:07.440 if there's some guy talking. 01:19:07.580 --> 01:19:07.900 And it says, 01:19:07.960 --> 01:19:09.860 this is just easy to maintain. 01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:11.520 It can hold up to around 01:19:11.520 --> 01:19:12.660 200,000 lines 01:19:12.660 --> 01:19:13.920 in an office 01:19:13.920 --> 01:19:15.180 and roughly around 01:19:15.180 --> 01:19:16.340 94,000 trunks. 01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:17.060 Mm-hmm. 01:19:22.180 --> 01:19:22.740 I don't know. 01:19:22.780 --> 01:19:23.660 I guess I was just confused. 01:19:23.740 --> 01:19:24.240 Oh, no, no, no. 01:19:24.240 --> 01:19:25.520 So, what is your question? 01:19:26.720 --> 01:19:27.820 Well, I was wondering, like, 01:19:27.880 --> 01:19:30.360 so, what's with the 200,000 lines 01:19:30.360 --> 01:19:31.420 and with the 5ESS? 01:19:31.500 --> 01:19:31.840 Oh, okay. 01:19:31.940 --> 01:19:33.100 The actual capacity 01:19:33.100 --> 01:19:34.460 of the internal switching matrix 01:19:34.460 --> 01:19:35.980 of the 5ESS itself 01:19:35.980 --> 01:19:37.380 maxes out 01:19:37.380 --> 01:19:38.840 at about 200,000 lines. 01:19:38.980 --> 01:19:40.400 Beyond 200,000 lines, 01:19:40.760 --> 01:19:41.520 you have to actually put 01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:42.540 more than one 5ESS 01:19:42.540 --> 01:19:43.200 in the building 01:19:43.200 --> 01:19:44.340 to handle all those subscribers. 01:19:45.220 --> 01:19:45.520 Gotcha. 01:19:45.800 --> 01:19:46.060 All right. 01:19:46.120 --> 01:19:47.220 So, it's actually internal. 01:19:47.660 --> 01:19:48.260 Yeah, yeah. 01:19:48.660 --> 01:19:48.960 Okay. 01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:50.580 That makes more sense. 01:19:50.680 --> 01:19:51.320 Okay, because I'm, like, 01:19:51.320 --> 01:19:51.940 sitting here reading 01:19:51.940 --> 01:19:53.180 about, like, the 5ESS 01:19:53.180 --> 01:19:54.220 and I'm like, huh. 01:19:54.720 --> 01:19:55.380 I'm like, wait a minute. 01:19:55.520 --> 01:19:56.460 So, like, 01:19:57.780 --> 01:19:59.360 that totally answered my question. 01:19:59.500 --> 01:20:00.120 I just didn't know 01:20:00.120 --> 01:20:00.800 that it was internal 01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:01.680 that they were talking about. 01:20:02.180 --> 01:20:02.460 Okay. 01:20:02.460 --> 01:20:03.320 Well, yeah, no, I mean, 01:20:03.720 --> 01:20:05.320 each individual trunking technology 01:20:05.320 --> 01:20:06.600 has a certain capacity 01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:08.520 for simultaneous calls 01:20:08.520 --> 01:20:10.240 and then, you know, 01:20:10.300 --> 01:20:11.940 each switch will have 01:20:11.940 --> 01:20:13.460 its own maximum capacity 01:20:13.460 --> 01:20:14.460 for telephone calls. 01:20:15.440 --> 01:20:15.960 Gotcha. 01:20:16.820 --> 01:20:17.300 Okay. 01:20:18.300 --> 01:20:19.280 That makes more sense. 01:20:19.380 --> 01:20:19.900 And when they say 01:20:19.900 --> 01:20:21.200 96,000 trunks there, 01:20:21.280 --> 01:20:22.340 they say 96,000 01:20:22.340 --> 01:20:23.860 actual individual circuits 01:20:23.860 --> 01:20:25.160 on, you know, 01:20:25.220 --> 01:20:25.780 telephone lines 01:20:25.780 --> 01:20:26.380 between offices. 01:20:26.540 --> 01:20:28.380 So, 96,000, you know, 01:20:28.400 --> 01:20:29.540 different simultaneous calls 01:20:29.540 --> 01:20:30.160 that can be set up 01:20:30.160 --> 01:20:30.840 to different offices 01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:31.780 at any given time. 01:20:32.500 --> 01:20:32.860 Okay. 01:20:33.900 --> 01:20:35.060 And that's the maximum capacity. 01:20:35.160 --> 01:20:35.640 In practice, 01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:36.640 they never fill those out. 01:20:37.080 --> 01:20:37.820 But in theory, 01:20:37.900 --> 01:20:38.800 that's the most 01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:39.360 that they can handle. 01:20:40.120 --> 01:20:40.940 Well, that totally 01:20:40.940 --> 01:20:42.060 clears up everything then. 01:20:42.620 --> 01:20:43.020 Cool. 01:20:43.660 --> 01:20:43.960 All right. 01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:45.160 I think we have, 01:20:45.160 --> 01:20:46.520 we've hit our time limit. 01:20:48.080 --> 01:20:49.460 So, let's, 01:20:50.140 --> 01:20:51.740 let's see. 01:20:51.780 --> 01:20:52.840 There are no announcements. 01:20:53.200 --> 01:20:53.700 Well, let's see. 01:20:53.880 --> 01:20:54.920 Announcements this week. 01:20:55.840 --> 01:20:56.400 Again, 01:20:57.560 --> 01:20:59.280 questions or comments 01:20:59.280 --> 01:21:00.520 on the call-in format. 01:21:01.640 --> 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01:23:15.640 at radio at binrev.com. 01:23:15.720 --> 01:23:16.020 Any 01:23:16.020 --> 01:23:17.100 shout 01:23:17.100 --> 01:23:17.800 you'd like to make? 01:23:17.800 --> 01:23:19.880 I'll shout out 01:23:19.880 --> 01:23:20.380 my roommate, 01:23:20.880 --> 01:23:21.820 DJ Mollusk, 01:23:21.940 --> 01:23:22.420 and 01:23:22.420 --> 01:23:23.860 I'm going to 01:23:23.860 --> 01:23:24.560 shout out Droops. 01:23:26.100 --> 01:23:26.720 That's about it. 01:23:26.980 --> 01:23:27.160 Cool. 01:23:28.120 --> 01:23:29.040 And shouts to, 01:23:29.100 --> 01:23:29.740 I forget who 01:23:29.740 --> 01:23:30.820 picked the handle, 01:23:30.940 --> 01:23:31.520 but whoever picked 01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:32.440 Magnum IP 01:23:32.440 --> 01:23:34.460 as the handle 01:23:34.460 --> 01:23:35.860 for Magnum IP. 01:23:36.060 --> 01:23:36.960 That's totally awesome. 01:23:37.420 --> 01:23:37.620 So, 01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:38.180 shouts to him. 01:23:38.460 --> 01:23:39.300 Great handle, 01:23:39.400 --> 01:23:39.520 yeah. 01:23:39.840 --> 01:23:40.000 Yeah, 01:23:40.020 --> 01:23:40.420 I love it. 01:23:40.840 --> 01:23:41.080 Anyway, 01:23:41.180 --> 01:23:41.660 side of the week 01:23:41.660 --> 01:23:43.880 is Post Pathos. 01:23:44.240 --> 01:23:44.760 You can download 01:23:44.760 --> 01:23:45.140 your music, 01:23:45.280 --> 01:23:46.300 geocities.com 01:23:46.300 --> 01:23:47.520 slash post underscore 01:23:47.520 --> 01:23:48.220 pathos. 01:23:49.260 --> 01:23:49.920 And our 01:23:49.920 --> 01:23:50.980 closing music 01:23:50.980 --> 01:23:51.460 this week 01:23:51.460 --> 01:23:52.340 is Post Pathos, 01:23:52.400 --> 01:23:52.800 Waste Matter. 01:23:53.760 --> 01:23:54.180 Actually, 01:23:54.380 --> 01:23:56.460 later on we'll talk, 01:23:56.540 --> 01:23:56.900 but I have 01:23:56.900 --> 01:23:57.940 something actually 01:23:57.940 --> 01:23:58.400 that you can 01:23:58.400 --> 01:23:59.080 help us with. 01:23:59.440 --> 01:23:59.660 Oh? 01:24:00.340 --> 01:24:00.780 Yeah, 01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:01.840 we'll talk though. 01:24:02.560 --> 01:24:03.340 It'll be part of 01:24:03.340 --> 01:24:04.560 the unveiling of 01:24:04.560 --> 01:24:04.980 everything 01:24:04.980 --> 01:24:06.620 on September 5th. 01:24:06.720 --> 01:24:06.860 Oh, 01:24:06.900 --> 01:24:07.080 cool. 01:24:07.560 --> 01:24:07.820 Well, 01:24:08.600 --> 01:24:09.200 the mysteries, 01:24:09.200 --> 01:24:09.960 Suspense, 01:24:10.280 --> 01:24:11.020 tune in to 01:24:11.020 --> 01:24:11.640 Geek Love Radio 01:24:11.640 --> 01:24:12.120 and find out 01:24:12.120 --> 01:24:12.660 what's going on 01:24:12.660 --> 01:24:13.340 because I don't 01:24:13.340 --> 01:24:13.640 know what's 01:24:13.640 --> 01:24:14.340 going on right now. 01:24:15.120 --> 01:24:15.340 Ah, 01:24:15.400 --> 01:24:15.940 nobody does. 01:24:16.360 --> 01:24:16.800 Cool. 01:24:17.900 --> 01:24:18.240 Well, 01:24:18.800 --> 01:24:19.300 anyway, 01:24:20.180 --> 01:24:21.180 see you next week. 01:24:21.680 --> 01:24:22.500 Same hack time. 01:24:22.800 --> 01:24:23.620 Same hack channel. 01:24:23.620 --> 01:24:23.680 Same hack channel. 01:24:39.200 --> 01:24:51.960 Take care. 01:24:51.960 --> 01:24:53.640 fellow. 01:24:53.640 --> 01:24:55.340 See the world at sea 01:24:55.340 --> 01:24:57.720 Come and taste it 01:24:57.720 --> 01:25:00.280 Won't let me think 01:25:00.280 --> 01:25:01.960 You feel like a kid 01:25:01.960 --> 01:25:04.180 Touching angels 01:25:04.180 --> 01:25:06.860 Won't feel the pain 01:25:06.860 --> 01:25:08.320 Of her mistake 01:25:08.320 --> 01:25:11.300 Only the girl beats you, baby 01:25:11.300 --> 01:25:13.680 Are you feeling on the dance floor 01:25:13.680 --> 01:25:14.580 Face down 01:25:14.580 --> 01:25:15.680 Drop the water 01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:17.300 Cause we put you back together 01:25:17.300 --> 01:25:19.180 Are you feeling on the 01:25:19.180 --> 01:25:20.680 With the safe and sense 01:25:20.680 --> 01:25:21.840 I can't believe they'll 01:25:21.840 --> 01:25:23.300 Left you lying there forever 01:25:23.300 --> 01:25:25.760 Exclamations and cheers 01:25:25.760 --> 01:25:26.760 And nevertheless 01:25:26.760 --> 01:25:35.100 Won't you roll 01:25:35.100 --> 01:25:36.520 With the rolling made 01:25:36.520 --> 01:25:38.300 Won't you roll 01:25:38.300 --> 01:25:39.180 You said 01:25:39.180 --> 01:25:41.660 Won't you roll 01:25:41.660 --> 01:25:43.260 See the world at sea 01:25:43.260 --> 01:25:45.380 Come and taste it 01:25:45.380 --> 01:25:48.220 Won't you think 01:25:48.220 --> 01:25:49.860 You feel like a kid 01:25:49.860 --> 01:25:52.140 Teating angels 01:25:52.140 --> 01:25:54.680 Won't you feel the pain 01:25:54.680 --> 01:25:55.480 Or hurt 01:25:55.480 --> 01:25:56.180 Or stay 01:25:56.180 --> 01:25:59.100 Only the drum beats, baby 01:25:59.100 --> 01:26:00.500 I told your father 01:26:00.500 --> 01:26:02.240 That I loved you, Jamie 01:26:02.240 --> 01:26:04.060 I can't forget how we were 01:26:04.060 --> 01:26:05.360 Crying there together 01:26:05.360 --> 01:26:06.920 I'm sure that Molly said 01:26:06.920 --> 01:26:08.320 I love you, Jamie 01:26:08.320 --> 01:26:10.000 But that won't stop me now 01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:11.240 From the scene forever 01:26:11.240 --> 01:26:12.900 What would you feel it 01:26:12.900 --> 01:26:13.860 On the dance floor 01:26:13.860 --> 01:26:14.760 Face down 01:26:14.760 --> 01:26:15.780 All these horses 01:26:15.780 --> 01:26:17.460 Couldn't put your heart together 01:26:17.460 --> 01:26:19.000 What would you feel it 01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:20.960 On the way to St. Vincent's 01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:22.040 I can't believe you 01:26:22.040 --> 01:26:23.380 What would you feel it 01:26:23.380 --> 01:26:23.500 When they're there and so forever 01:26:23.500 --> 01:26:24.500 We got solution 01:26:24.500 --> 01:26:25.500 And cheers 01:26:25.500 --> 01:26:26.580 And never 01:26:26.580 --> 01:26:27.500 Shots 01:26:27.500 --> 01:26:40.500 Won't you roll 01:26:40.500 --> 01:26:41.440 She's rolling 01:26:41.440 --> 01:26:42.200 And rolling 01:26:42.200 --> 01:26:43.420 She won't 01:26:43.420 --> 01:26:44.540 She's rolling 01:26:44.540 --> 01:26:45.340 And rolling 01:26:45.340 --> 01:26:46.600 But you won't 01:26:46.600 --> 01:26:47.720 She's rolling 01:26:47.720 --> 01:26:48.520 And rolling 01:26:48.520 --> 01:26:49.160 She's 01:26:49.160 --> 01:26:50.300 Won't you 01:26:50.300 --> 01:26:51.260 Please stop 01:26:51.260 --> 01:26:52.160 Hear me 01:26:52.160 --> 01:26:53.160 Number five 01:26:53.160 --> 01:26:53.540 You said 01:26:53.540 --> 01:26:55.260 You're looking for me 01:26:55.260 --> 01:26:56.400 The signs against you 01:26:56.400 --> 01:26:57.940 Till I lost my brother 01:26:57.940 --> 01:26:59.200 It's hard to see 01:26:59.200 --> 01:26:59.220 It's hard to see 01:26:59.220 --> 01:26:59.580 It's hard to see 01:26:59.580 --> 01:27:00.100 It's hard to see 01:27:00.100 --> 01:27:00.580 It's hard to see 01:27:00.580 --> 01:27:01.080 It's hard to see 01:27:01.080 --> 01:27:02.140 It's hard to see 01:27:02.140 --> 01:27:02.700 It's hard to see 01:27:02.700 --> 01:27:03.140 It's hard to see 01:27:03.140 --> 01:27:03.580 It's hard to see 01:27:03.580 --> 01:27:04.140 It's hard to see 01:27:04.140 --> 01:27:04.640 It's hard to see 01:27:04.640 --> 01:27:05.380 But you're feeling 01:27:05.380 --> 01:27:06.500 On the dance floor 01:27:06.500 --> 01:27:07.380 Face down 01:27:07.380 --> 01:27:08.220 All these horses 01:27:08.220 --> 01:27:09.260 Couldn't put you 01:27:09.260 --> 01:27:10.060 Back together 01:27:10.060 --> 01:27:11.580 What was with you 01:27:11.580 --> 01:27:13.480 On your way to St. Vincent's 01:27:13.480 --> 01:27:14.520 The deal is dying 01:27:14.520 --> 01:27:16.080 Now we're missing you forever 01:27:16.080 --> 01:27:17.560 She'll pay your mother 01:27:17.560 --> 01:27:18.380 Back and cheer 01:27:18.380 --> 01:27:19.160 This never 01:27:19.160 --> 01:27:19.780 Enough 01:27:19.780 --> 01:27:49.760 It's hard to see 01:27:49.780 --> 01:28:19.760 Thank you.