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This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers, to the hackers and the crackers.

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I see in binary, I speak source code, step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you

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in a fag pose, in your digital stance, getting firewalls hoes, cause I'm riding the net in

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my six foes, I was a dick with my 56, now with my cable I'm able to get that stable,

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on the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo, on the digital highway, my name is Neo and

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I'm a hero, in a flash, I'll screw you on burning dreamcast, you need some ISO, let me through

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my hard drive rifle, our exchange you could never stifle, and a digital hug, you just caught

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the love bug, I bootlegged your CD, I caused the fight between Un and Jay-Z, cause CG, it's

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all gonna be free, whether we take it by force or we take it nicely, you feel that rattle

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in your bones, when I tell you we just hacked out Jones, and NASDAQ leaves your fight on

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your back, cause I am he who loves to hack and crack, cause I am he who loves to hack and

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crack, this is dedicated to the hackers and the criminals, they're real phones, source codes,

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ISO, RAM, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this,

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Hello, and welcome to Binary Revolution Radio, episode 115.

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Wow, I think that's like 10, you've been doing this 115 times?

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No, no, no, I think I've only been doing it 10 times though, which is impressive in

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its own right, anyway, today's date is September 27th, 2005, and I'm Black Ratchet, Strom isn't

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here right now, he's gone, whatever, and we have Doug with us, Doug, hello, Doug the man,

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Doug, hello, of Default Radio fame, Default Radio fame, what's up, not a lot, what's going

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on with you, man? Nothing much, just co-hosting the show Binary Revolution Radio with Black

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Ratchet. Yeah, that guy's a noob, shouldn't do that. Yeah, with a stank dog, I mean, Ratchet,

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stank Ratchet. Stank Ratchet, actually, that should be my new handle, Black Dog. Black Dog,

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oh, Black Dog actually sounds pretty good, someone wanted a cool handle, and I called him like

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Black Ratchet Jr., and he was seriously considering it for some reason. Your name should be Black Dog,

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there we go, and you can spell it with the A-W on there, so you can be leet like stank.

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Black Dog at the Digital Dog Town.

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Make like a fun, like, saying, like, you know, once I bite into something, I never let go, or

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something leet like Cowboy Bebop.

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Oh, God.

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The Black Rabbit Dog.

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Black Rabbit.

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Black Rabbit, there we go.

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Black Rabbit.

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Wow, see, Doug, just getting on the show, it gets the creative juices flowing.

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There's too many handles already with black and white in it.

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Yeah, that's, I gotta say, that's the one complaint about my handles, that now I look

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back at it and say, boy, what was I thinking when I picked this name?

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Yeah, but you're one of the originals, though, like, white, so it's one of the original

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names. There's a lot of names today that people are coming up with that have white and black

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in it.

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I hardly count those names as original. It's only been around for about a, a little more than a

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year now.

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More than a year? How long?

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So, it's May, May? Well, maybe April, I think. I don't even know when I registered the domain,

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to be honest with you. I think it was April, maybe May.

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Well, wait a minute. How long have you been in the scene? You've got to have been in it

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more than a year, haven't you?

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June.

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Really?

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Slightly more than a year.

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I thought you'd been around for a long-ass time.

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Well, I've been around, I mean, I've been around, but I haven't been part of the scene,

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as it were.

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Well, I mean, I figured he'd be on other forms and stuff, but I just figured he always went by

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Black Ratchet and he came across BINRIP like a lot of other people.

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No, I actually had a previous handle, but it was, I started hanging out on BINRIP. Never

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registered the name, though, so I don't even bother go looking. And I learned about the

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wonderful techniques of owning people. And I was going, oh, perhaps I shouldn't have

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this easily traceable nickname back to myself that has been my nickname for about, oh, at

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that point I think about five or six years. And it was thoroughly entwined with my real

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name. So I said, okay, let's go, let's go pick out something cool sounding. And all of

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a sudden I ended up with Black Ratchet. What was I thinking?

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Black Ratchet. Well, it's a clever one. I'll give you that.

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Yeah, well, it was really, see, I wanted to have like something like one of those really

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cool sounding security lab type things or something where people release leet exploits

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and stuff. So I was going to call myself Black Ratchet Labs. So.

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Well, at least you don't have numbers and.

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Yeah, well, that was, yeah.

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They have like uppercase and lowercase letters everywhere. Replace S's with Z's.

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Yeah, well, that was one of my key things. Well, basically I registered a domain first and

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I wanted something without, it didn't sound too stupid and didn't require like leet speak

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or something crazy like that. And lo and behold, blackratchet.org was not taken. So

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I was very lucky.

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So I registered.

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I don't have the, I don't have the talent to come up with a handle. I never really had

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any handle. The only thing I ever had once was just CB, which was my name initials that

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I always went by on IRC by. And that was all I ever really used was my name. I never had

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any creative handle.

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See, and when you were always talking about cbzone.com and I never actually, when I was

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going through the archives of default radio, I always assumed you were really into citizens

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band radio.

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Well, actually, ironically I was. That's why it worked. But I never used, I never used CB

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Zone as a website affiliated with that though. It was just, but it's kind of funny that you

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bring that up. That, because a lot of people did think that and that was true. That's what

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I usually told people for a while. Because in the bin rev scene, I never did give people

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my name. I always went by just Doug, because I just didn't know these people well enough.

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Come on, Doug's a cool name. So like I was saying, it's cool, it's one syllable. Doug.

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Well, actually, I go by, I go by Charlie Douglas now, but people can still call me Doug. I went

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around changing it so I could use the, someone came to me once and said that you really should

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start going, like when you make videos and any kind of publicity thing, you really should

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use the name Charlie, because a lot of girls, I guess, seem to dig Charlie more than

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Doug. A lot of people still consider Doug as the old cartoon Doug.

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I didn't even think of that.

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Yeah, that's what a lot of people think of. And I talked to a couple of people, like

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Gray Area was like, you should always go by Doug Bruckner, because it sounds cool, like

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Late Night with Doug Bruckner. And Charlie's more of a, he's all, Charlie's more of a construction

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worker name. And then I'm getting all these mixed reviews, and I'm like, you know what?

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I go by Charlie in real life, so I'm just going to go by Charlie. If people still want to call

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me Doug, I don't give a fuck. So, you know, either one.

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I personally, I'm voting for Doug. I like Doug. But I like him. I'll call you whatever

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you want.

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I like him both. Mondays, I'll go by Charlie. Tuesdays, I'll go by Doug. You know, so today

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it's Tuesday, I'm going by Doug.

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Wednesday, I'll go by Leapmaster, K-Rad 3000.

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But yeah, anytime I make videos or anything, I'm just going to use Charlie Douglas. And instead

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of using, like, my last name, Bruckner, because it's just long and, you know, annoying, I'll

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just, Charlie Douglas sounds more of a professional. He even sounds like a radio name, too.

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That was actually one of my dad's disc jockey names years ago. When he used to be a disc

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jockey, he used to go by Charlie Douglas, because it was the name of my two uncles. And that's

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the way they combined those names for when I was born. That's the way he named me. So

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it's just, I think, it'd be a lot easier to go by Charlie Douglas.

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All right. A fascinating look in Doug's handles, or Charlie Douglas.

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In the history of Charlie Douglas.

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And C.B.'s own Doug.

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A.K.A. Doug.

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Let's go head into the housekeeping, because people are probably turning off their radios

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already.

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Yeah, be like the old Doug guy in Black Ratchet, anyways.

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Oh, hopefully people know me by now. If they haven't figured it out by now, dear God. You're

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slow people. Sorry.

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Does that sound like Spang Dog?

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I'm pretty sure there has to be at least one or two people. I would say on the outside

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of ten, of people that completely miss the fact that Stank stopped doing the show, and

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they tune in after we introduced ourselves, and they're like, who the hell is this? Where's

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Stank? And I wonder how many episodes they might have listened to until they figured out

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that, oh my God, this guy's here forever.

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Yeah, do they still send you emails saying, hey, Stank, love the show. I just listened

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to episode 105.

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Actually, funny you mentioned that. I got one of those last week. I'm up to episode, like,

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80-something, and I was like, oh, you got a surprise, don't you? I didn't actually reply

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to them. I let them discover it on their own. I'm a firm believer in learning for yourself.

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Anyway. Actually, Strom has an announcement for us, beyond the grave, that he says the

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BINREV voicemail is back up at 213-415-1047. Apparently there was some jitter buffer problem,

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which I'm not exactly sure what that means, but I don't know. He did some technical jiggly

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jiggly pokelory with our asterisk server, and he got it working. I'll actually need

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to ask him what the hell was going on.

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213, so BINREV is based on an L.A. or what?

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Yes, BINREV. BINREV is an L.A. based show, I guess. I don't know.

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Move from Florida to L.A.?

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Well, like I said on one of my episodes, it went from the night that it premiered and

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transferred from Florida to Boston, as it were. I was in Fenway Park watching the Red

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Sox beat the Florida Marlins or the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. I don't know, one of the teams

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from Florida. I think it was probably Tampa Bay. I found it quite humorous with the, I don't

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know what you would call it, the resonance or one of those literary terms. I don't know.

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I don't know. I guess I could say this is housekeeping. I found a humorous story today

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on the news. I was sitting there and I was watching it, and I really wasn't paying much

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attention to it until I saw the familiar Verizon logo. And I was like, oh, that's Verizon.

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They're on the news. I wonder what the hell's going on. And apparently, Verizon, in their

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infinite planning wisdom, one of their air conditioning ducts, let go, and their Manchester

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long-distance switching system. Now, this wouldn't be a minor problem. However, this

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particular one that let go was right over their main telephone switch for the long-distance

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network inbound and outbound of Manchester, New Hampshire. Manchester 040, I believe it

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is.

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So, now, for those of you who don't know, telephone switches are large computers. And

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large computers and air conditioning ducts full of water don't mix. So, if you called in

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or out of Manchester today and you had Verizon as your long-distance provider, actually, well,

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Verizon as your local exchange carrier, you were hosed.

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And, yeah. So, I found that quite humorous. And they show all these little, like, Verizon

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techs going in and out of the building with, like, wet-dry vacs.

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Oh, man.

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Yeah. That sucked.

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Actually, and the humorous part, for phone freaks, you'll probably get this. People who are

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familiar with AT&T and whatnot. The error message that they played to show you, well, anyway,

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the error message that the TV station was getting was actually the error message from AT&T telling

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about telephone facility trouble. And they were appealing it as a Verizon announcement. And

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I found that quite humorous.

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Yeah. That's something to laugh at, especially when you're in the phones.

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Well, you can always laugh at Verizon because it's just so easy.

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Hey, Verizon's still cool, okay?

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No. I don't know. Verizon Bell Atlantic is cool. I've always heard interesting things

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about your Verizon out on the West Coast.

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You know what? I don't care what Strom says. Verizon GTE, well, a lot of their stuff's on

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B-fall, I'll give you that. But they're reliable.

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Well, I'm sure. I always say I'm sure they're reliable.

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You know, I've had the best Verizon phone service out in the GTE, mostly, probably specifically

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my area. There's a lot in Southern California, a lot of GTE areas in Southern California that Strom's

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probably familiar with that I'm not familiar with, which might suck, you know. But as far

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as my central office at my old house, I've never had a problem.

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So, I've never had any problem with GTE. There's a little things here and there that, you know,

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Strom makes fun of as far as the switch goes, and that's fine. But I've never had GTE, even

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when GTE was our telephone company before Verizon bought them out, we never had any problem

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with them.

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A ringing endorsement from Doug or Charlie. Actually, I'll tell you what, we can use both

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names, and we can say two people like GTE.

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Oh, God.

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Anyway, well, that's pretty much it for housekeeping.

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Let's go into the email.

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Our first email tonight is from Alex. It says,

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Hi, insert current name of Coast here. Just finished listening to episode 113. Yeah, I

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know, I'm a week behind. And especially like the part on cell phones. Yes, next cell speaker

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phone is irritating, but the most annoying cell phone thing, in my opinion, is people who

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like to put their entire songs on their ringtone, like the person who's got theirs set to Stairway

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to Heaven, and decides to listen to the entire song before answering it. Also, you mentioned

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that the highest data speed you can get over a cell phone in the States is something like

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48 kilobits per second. This doesn't seem to be true. Recently, a friend told me about

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Verizon's data service, which claims to give you 144 kilobit burst transfer rate and a constant

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rate around 60 to 80 kilobits per second. My friend claims to get constant speed around

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120K, but not having a USB cable for my cell phone, I can't test this. Here's the length

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of Verizon's description of the service, and it's tinyyearold.com slash alpha delta x-ray

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for papa. If the transfer rate is good, as my friend said, and the latency isn't too

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bad, 64 kilobit ULAW wouldn't be out of the question. This would make VoIP over your cell

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phone quite usable. Once again, keep up the good work, and I look forward to the live show

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you guys claim are coming up.

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Well, I think we mentioned this in the show. I can't really remember, and I really didn't

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want to listen to the whole show to find out. Yes, Verizon's uberfast service will, well,

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you can't use VoIP over it. It is fast. I believe the actual top speed they bill it

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out is 144 kilobits, but as always, your mileage may vary. Also, I think it's quite

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expensive, like $100 a month. You don't actually get this on every cell phone, as far as I

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remember. It's something you have to subscribe specifically to. Also, actually, I had a couple

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of friends who had this a few years ago, and they told me, and what I observed is coverage

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was very spotty, at least in Boston, and they told me other major cities, but I wasn't there.

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However, I guess you could say this is a very real alternative, and I hope that soon I will

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be getting an uberfast connection down to my cell phone, much like they have in Japan.

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I think Japan's actually starting to shoot for 1.5 megabits down to your cell phone, which

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is insane. Currently, I have, I think, a 33.6K modem on my wireless internet. I actually

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got that recently. I have a T-Mobile phone. For an extra $20, you get unlimited internet.

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I've been using Bluetooth with my PDA, my Dell Axiom, for months now, and it's awesome.

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I mean, it's the speed of dial-up, but for instant messaging, email, and web surfing, it

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does the job.

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Do you, I mean, you like it and everything?

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Oh, yeah. I don't have any complaint at all. I've been using, I've been using pop email

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with it, instant messaging with AIM, a couple other things, too. IRC I use with it. I also

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remote SSH to my box once in a while, and just for basic web surfing, it's about the speed

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of dial-up, but for being able to surf the internet wherever the hell you are, pretty much,

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it's a good deal.

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Hmm.

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T-Mobile's always had the best, I think, data plans out of any cell carriers, real cheap prices.

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Yeah, T-Mobile is pretty good, but what T-Mobile does not have is a fast internet connection.

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Well, I'm sorry, I'm not, God, what was I saying? Not a wide coverage area. They're

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pretty good, but if you get anywhere out of populated areas, your cell phone drops off

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like next to nothing.

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Yeah, T-Mobile probably has the third best compared to Verizon and Signal. Verizon and Signal

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are going to be, they're expensive, but they do have the most coverage.

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Yeah. I've got to say, I'm a big fan of T-Mobile. Well, for the most part, I have certain

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complaints with them, but none of them about their coverage or their rates. They're very

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good as long as you don't go out, but I went up to northern New Hampshire. That's actually

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where I went a couple of weeks ago when I wasn't on the show, and it's way out in the

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boonies, and my cell phone, nor my fiance's cell phone, could not get coverage. However, if

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my sister leaned out deep on the porch, pointing in a certain direction, she could get a moderately

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usable cell phone signal from Verizon. So judge that as you will. However, I actually did have in

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my bag one of those old-school Motorola flip phones, and just out of curiosity, I decided to fire it up

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and listen to the signal strength meter, and it received like two or three bars out of six.

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Oh, wow.

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And I was just like, yeah, old-school, kicking it.

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That's awesome.

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Anyway, our next thing.

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That was one of the things I was going to do with Verizon Wireless. When I had Verizon Wireless, I was going to get a brick phone off eBay.

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And you can still, I think to this day, you can still do this, but they will legally activate your ESN with any old analog phone, as long as you don't have a roaming plan.

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You can't use, like, America's Choice. You can use a digital basic plan, and you can still legally have a brick phone and have phone service with it.

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Actually, listening to Off the Hook, I'm not sure if it was this week or last, that apparently that Verizon, if you have an old-school flip phone, which I do have,

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if we have a few friends from Boston 2600, we inherited a cache, and my prized possession, which is the one I used in New Hampshire, is a 9X mobile phone.

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So that's pretty old-school, and I was just like, I want that one. Give me it.

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But anyway, so the thing was that apparently Verizon will not activate your phone anymore, or at least I wasn't going to be able to confirm this is what I heard from Off the Hook.

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They will not activate your phone if you do not have that E911 GPS thing in your phone.

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Yeah, all of their new phones, they do have that E911.

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I would assume that you can still use phones that, if you've had them, what's the right word?

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If they've already been activated with Verizon, I would assume you would still be able to use those,

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but I think for new activation purposes, they probably can't do it legally.

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Thank you.

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Or is the one simply a clone of the other?

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Can you use the two interchangeably, i.e., can a message be encrypted with a public GPG key with the PGP program?

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Keep up the good work, guys, and see everyone at Freaknik.

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I'm not sure.

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Do you use either of these, Doug?

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No, not at all.

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I know what PGP is, but I don't know what GPG was.

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GPG is GNU Privacy Yard.

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It's an open-source clone of PGP.

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Just enter GNU PG into Google, and you'll find it in case you didn't know what it was.

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Who comes up with these words?

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GPG, G-U-N, Google?

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Well, I don't know.

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Market droids get paid a lot of money to do this, and you can now see what happens when they don't get paid by just looking at the Linux movement and see what people name stuff.

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I mean, heck, lame.

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Lame is not an MP3 encoder.

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Yeah.

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I will admit, I do like the whole, I don't know what you would call it, recursive things.

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Yeah, they're cool names.

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They're very clever.

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I have nothing against them.

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I'm just saying, like, anyone that has no idea what the hell we're talking about, some completely, like, some old 80-year-old woman that turns into this show, and she hears GPG, PGP, GNU, Google.

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It just sounds really funny.

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Sorry.

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Hello?

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I can hear people in my computer.

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Who's Google?

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I can't talk to them.

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Who's Google?

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Mr. Google, are you there?

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I'd just like to think of, I'd find it humorous if there was an 80-year-old woman listening to the show.

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So anyway, let's actually answer his questions and stop making fun of the names.

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I'm going to say a tentative yes.

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The problem was, back in the day, when, you know, Phil Zimmerman was creating his Basimatic scheme and PGP-1 was released unto the world, there were two protocols used for the key exchange, I believe.

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I'm, this is all, could be completely wrong.

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I'm by no means an expert on PGP or GPG or any other thing.

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There were two protocols in this era.

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One was called RSA, which I believe stands for Rivest, Shimmerman, and Armin, which were the three mass petitions that designed it.

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And it was more secure, but however, it was under copyright and was restricted.

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However, not anymore, thank God.

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The other alternative was DSA, which I forget what it stands for, like Digital Signature Algorithm.

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I don't know.

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It was less secure, and it was designed by the NSA, so everyone had their little conspiracy hats on.

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However, it was free.

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DSA was the preferred protocol for GPG, I believe, because it was free.

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And back when it started, they kind of gave up on the whole NSA conspiracy thing.

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I'm not an expert of PGP, like I said.

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Everyone I know uses GNU PG, or GPG, that's what they call it.

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So I'm going to send this one out to the audience.

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Does anyone have an answer on this?

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This is a good question.

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Do your homework, because after all, we've only gotten a few emails this week,

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and these are the only two that were actual questions and such.

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So that wraps up the email.

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I don't know the answer.

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I'm going to say yes, but it could be for the completely wrong reasons that I do.

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I actually did a couple of cursory Google searches on this,

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and from the looks of it, it is supported,

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but they were talking about removing certain type of key signature algorithms to unsupported

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or removing it completely from the program back in 2003.

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So your mileage may vary.

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You be the judge.

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Not null, an offer, surprise, no purchase necessary.

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Let's go into personal hacking stories.

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Doug, what do you have for show and tell?

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Show and tell.

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This is where we talk about just any kind of hacking technology-related story?

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Yeah, sure.

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Right ahead.

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It's all you, man.

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Just go ahead.

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You know, nothing really going on with my life as far as technology goes,

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although I do have a story about a friend of mine that got fired about something default-related.

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Default?

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Was he listening to default radio?

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Yeah, then he got fired.

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God, Doug kid.

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He's a noob.

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You can't listen to that here.

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And then he got fired by me.

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No, actually, there's a story about a guy that a friend of mine,

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I'll keep him anonymous, though, because I'm sure he doesn't want to get owned out in the air.

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But he was working for this job,

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and he got the company interested in changing their long-distance plan

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because they were paying about anywhere from $0.10.

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They had, I think, Sprint Long Distance or something.

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They were paying like $0.10 a minute for their long-distance calls.

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And this had to deal with a lot of real estate agents for a real estate company,

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like Century 21, that kind of thing.

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And they were paying like a shitload of money,

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and he found ways to save the company money by switching to Asterisk,

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even VoIP as well for their toll freeze,

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using something like NuFone for their incoming toll freeze,

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instead of paying a shitload of money.

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He sold a bill, and it was just outrageous that they were paying this much.

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So he thought to the boss,

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and he had a whole arrangement of things that you can do to switch over,

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you know, how much it would cost you to upgrade the system and all the phones,

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and he was real interested in it.

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It was one of those, you know, we'll think about it kind of thing.

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Well, weeks go by.

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We'll just call this guy Billy,

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and we'll call the boss Mr. Johnson,

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because those names are funny.

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So Billy walks into work one day

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and gets a memo saying he's fired from Mr. Johnson.

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He goes into Mr. Johnson's office and says,

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this is some kind of joke.

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I've been here for a while now.

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What the hell's going on?

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Well, it turned out that Mr. Johnson was really pissed off,

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because the whole company,

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all their voicemails got reset.

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All the messages that agents had saved on there for months and months,

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all their greetings, all the passcodes,

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all the saved voicemail messages that were on there

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that had important information,

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because I guess they never thought of a thing called a pen and paper

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to write down people's phone numbers and clients' phone numbers.

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They had to rely on the voicemail.

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But apparently everything was deleted.

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And this was because Billy pointed out to Mr. Johnson

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a week ago that it was how easily it was

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to break into a voicemail system

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by simply spoofing a phone number

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and being able to be into the system

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without requiring a password.

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And ironically enough,

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kind of coincidental that

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by telling him that a week later

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that that same incident happened.

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So Mr. Johnson believed that it was Billy's fault

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because Billy was trying to be a smartass

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to show, like, see how easy it is to break in.

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You should have listened to me

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and you should have saved money.

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However, Billy didn't do a goddamn thing,

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nor did Billy even tell anybody.

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Billy didn't tell anybody

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except his boss about this

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and some other co-workers.

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And he believed that not any of his co-workers

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would have any idea

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on how to spoof a telephone number.

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Unless they were to, I don't know,

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maybe research it online

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and get, like, a spoofing service

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that's out there.

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You know, one of those

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web spoofing services that are out there.

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Star 38, man.

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That shit's leet.

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Yeah, it could be something like Star 38.

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Isn't Star 38 closed?

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I don't know.

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I think it is.

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I think, like, the only one left is,

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what's it called,

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Telespoof.

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There's Telespoof,

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and, yeah, you know what,

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there's, like, two or three other ones

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that went down recently, too.

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Spoofing services are dying.

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Well, Telespoof's been around for a while.

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They've been pretty good.

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Yeah.

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But, yeah, so Billy got really screwed

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in the ass

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by showing his boss his skills

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and showing him how,

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by trying to save the company,

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he ended up getting screwed.

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So someone either at the company

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screwed him over

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or someone was just scanning around

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and finding out that,

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oh, hey, this system's on default.

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Or there was just a massive

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catastrophic failure

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at a very, very, very bad time.

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Which is kind of one of those things

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where, as much as someone

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that you may know at work,

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I don't think you should ever

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tell anyone everything you know.

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Exactly.

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It scares them.

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It scares them to death.

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If you know all this stuff,

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they don't want you to know.

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I've seen a lot of people

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and businesses

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that have shown them things

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like, hey, you know,

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you could do this

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and you could break into this

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really easily.

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You should really fix that.

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Even though you're trying

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to help them,

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they kind of don't trust you

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because they don't know you

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well enough.

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So it's a good idea

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to keep your mouth shut

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about everything

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and just do your job.

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Yeah, well, not even that.

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I mean, it's just more of,

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oh, well, hell, he can do it.

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You make a...

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Now that they know

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that you can do it,

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you make a very convenient

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scapegoat on what it is.

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I mean, it's not even just,

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you know,

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them figuring out

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what you can do.

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It's just, I don't know.

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It's a whole sticky situation

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and I personally agree with you.

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Just, you know,

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eyes forward, nose down.

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My boss does, you know,

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a little bit of what I can do

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and that I'm into phones

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and I can do silly things

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on the phones

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and make them cry out

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people's numbers

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and add a touch of a button.

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Make phones ring.

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Yeah, make phones ring

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if I just, you know,

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dial some strange number

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and then flash the hook.

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If you dial some strange number

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that's associated

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with someone's cell phone

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that seems to ring.

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Yeah, it's pretty cool.

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I just, like,

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dial someone's number

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and their phone rings

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and I'm just like,

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yeah, I did that.

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Which is new to me.

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I'm still learning

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how that works.

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Except if you're in New Hampshire

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and use Verizon.

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Yeah, or if you live in Louisiana

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and you get a reorder.

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So, yeah, it's,

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it's a whole interesting tip.

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Use your judgment

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and always watch your back.

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Yeah, so just remember

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everything is always on default

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including co-workers

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and their brains

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and acknowledging people's skills.

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They're scared of you.

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Exactly.

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So if you're into hacking

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or you're into any kind of technology

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and you know a lot of shit,

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don't be a smart ass.

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Just keep your mouth shut.

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True words have never been spoken.

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Or you will get owned.

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Yeah.

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Save all your knowledge

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for a radio show

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or an article

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or, you know,

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any kind of TV show.

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Come on,

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do a radio.

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Do a nice topic

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and I'll get you on there.

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I mean, look at Dr. Zygman.

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I once again,

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I was going to say,

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shout out to Dr. Zygman

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for last week.

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That was, like,

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one of our best episodes so far.

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And he's probably

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getting very embarrassed

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because I've said this

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like 1,500 times so far.

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What did you guys talk about?

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Digital video editing.

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Oh, cool.

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See, if you listened to the show,

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you would know.

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I shouldn't have told you.

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I told you.

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I listened to

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one full episode

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and then I turned it off

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and then I was disgusted

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and then I waited

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the next week

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and I just listened to it again.

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It was better.

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But then I got, you know,

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tired and fell asleep.

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You should listen to it more

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because apparently

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we're cool now or something.

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That's cool.

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I've got to tune

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into another video one

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because I usually

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when I look at the show

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and I see there's a topic

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that I mentioned

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and so far

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since you've been

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doing the show,

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I've seen a lot of topics

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that you've been interested.

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I know that Stink

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really didn't touch upon a lot.

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You guys do do

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a lot more telephony

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than Stink Dog did.

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Yeah, much more

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than some people sadly.

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Well, you know,

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I agree 50-50 with them.

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I think it's good

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that there's more telephony

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in the show.

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You know,

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it's a very strong point

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in technology and hacking.

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It's a very, you know,

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telephones come first

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before computers do with hacking.

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You can do a lot more

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with telephones

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than you can do

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with computers.

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Computers you can kind of

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do other things with.

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But at the same time,

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you don't want to just

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change the whole show format

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to just phones.

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Exactly.

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You don't want to change

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anything in technology.

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And that's what a lot

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of people are fearing.

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Like, oh,

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Strom and Black Ratchet,

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both phone freaks.

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You know,

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the whole show's changing.

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And that's not true.

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So, yeah,

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that's why we try to keep

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that whole 50-50 thing going.

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And I think we've kept

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to that so far.

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I mean,

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we're having a computer topic

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this week,

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so just to let everyone know.

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We're not going to tell you

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what it is yet.

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So, fear.

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Yeah.

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Any more topics

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or anything?

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Fun stories

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about people being on default

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and getting fired?

31:36.360 --> 31:36.620
No,

31:36.620 --> 31:37.720
I have an off-topic story

31:37.720 --> 31:38.120
if you want,

31:38.400 --> 31:39.900
an off-technology building

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experiment that I'm working on.

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Sure,

31:41.680 --> 31:41.880
what's up?

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That I've talked to you about

31:43.320 --> 31:44.320
on AIM earlier today?

31:44.620 --> 31:44.900
Yes.

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Yes.

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If anyone's familiar

31:47.180 --> 31:47.800
with a very,

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very,

31:48.260 --> 31:48.660
very good,

31:48.700 --> 31:49.520
probably my favorite

31:49.520 --> 31:51.060
sci-fi show of all time,

31:51.480 --> 31:51.920
Sliders,

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with Jerry O'Connell

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and the door from

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Lord of the Rings.

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I can't think of his name.

31:58.260 --> 31:58.700
I don't know.

31:58.840 --> 31:59.600
The guy who played

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the professor on the show.

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Yeah.

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The guy who was a dwarf

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in Lord of the Rings.

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Yeah,

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the guy that was a dwarf

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in Lord of the Rings.

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That's all you need to know.

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Very,

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very good sci-fi show

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that sadly was canceled

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like every other good show

32:11.760 --> 32:12.160
in the world.

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But the premise

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of the show

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was being able

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to transport

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between different

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alternate dimensions.

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How throughout the timeline

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in each different world

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something changed

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one another,

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you know,

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different kinds of histories

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and things like that.

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And their purpose

32:27.980 --> 32:28.880
was to keep traveling

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through all these worlds

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to find a way back home.

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Well,

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the device they used

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was called a timer.

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And ever since

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I first saw the show,

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I always wondered

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what exactly they used.

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They had two different

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kinds of timers

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throughout when the show

32:41.160 --> 32:41.540
was on.

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The first one,

32:42.620 --> 32:43.540
I did a little research

32:43.540 --> 32:44.180
on recently,

32:44.440 --> 32:45.140
thanks to Google

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and the worldwide interweb.

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I found out

32:48.200 --> 32:48.680
that they used

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a Motorola flip phone

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to make the first timer device.

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And basically,

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by modding the flip phone,

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I found instructions online

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on how to build

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your own sliding timer.

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Now,

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this won't transfer you

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to a different world,

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unfortunately.

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I'd looked into that,

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but it wouldn't work.

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But you can have

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an actual countdown timer,

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and it looks exactly

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identical with the flashing lights

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and the knobs and everything,

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exactly like the timer

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and sliders.

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The first one was built

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off of a Motorola flip phone,

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and the second one,

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that case was built off

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an RCA universal remote control.

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And it looks really,

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really cool.

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So check out my website

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for when I start building this,

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and I'll put pictures of it.

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If I can't order one online

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for a cheap price

33:27.760 --> 33:28.520
with someone to build it,

33:28.560 --> 33:29.560
then I will get the instructions,

33:29.700 --> 33:30.280
and I will post it

33:30.280 --> 33:30.820
on my website

33:30.820 --> 33:31.760
and show you how to make one.

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And I'll take pictures

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and maybe even make a video

33:34.140 --> 33:34.800
for Doug TV

33:34.800 --> 33:36.620
about building

33:36.620 --> 33:37.620
your own timer device

33:37.620 --> 33:38.800
and then make a little

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science fiction movie

33:39.780 --> 33:40.240
with Lucky.

33:41.820 --> 33:42.460
Oh, man.

33:42.560 --> 33:43.280
I can't picture

33:43.280 --> 33:44.520
sickle sliders with Lucky.

33:45.540 --> 33:46.780
They get stuck in,

33:46.860 --> 33:47.080
like, you know,

33:47.080 --> 33:48.060
the communist dimension,

33:48.200 --> 33:48.780
and he's like,

33:48.860 --> 33:50.040
oh, owned.

33:50.800 --> 33:51.920
I think Lucky's a god.

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You know,

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I think if we make a show

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about building your own timer

33:54.740 --> 33:55.520
and then add a little

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sci-fi into it,

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I think that's what

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I'm going to do.

33:57.300 --> 33:57.860
I plan on doing

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with some cheesy

33:58.480 --> 33:59.920
science fiction effects,

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but the timer

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looks really cool.

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I'm going to post

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some pictures

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that I saw on this website

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and post the website

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on my website today,

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which is spam,

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cdouglas.org.

34:10.700 --> 34:11.180
Nothing wrong

34:11.180 --> 34:12.180
with the shameless plug.

34:12.500 --> 34:12.620
I mean,

34:12.680 --> 34:12.860
heck,

34:12.920 --> 34:14.140
we're going to talk about it.

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It really is

34:14.760 --> 34:15.400
a cool design,

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though,

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I think,

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because it's one

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of those things

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that was...

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There's always been

34:19.060 --> 34:20.540
a couple of sci-fi gizmos,

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like the Hoverboard

34:21.320 --> 34:22.260
and Back to the Future 2.

34:22.320 --> 34:23.200
I've always wanted one.

34:23.500 --> 34:24.160
Not one that flew,

34:24.260 --> 34:24.960
but just the design

34:24.960 --> 34:25.640
of it looked cool,

34:25.700 --> 34:25.980
you know?

34:26.320 --> 34:26.820
I don't want

34:26.820 --> 34:27.440
the pink one,

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personally.

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No.

34:29.600 --> 34:30.700
If it was blue

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or something,

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yeah,

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definitely.

34:32.060 --> 34:32.720
I totally agree

34:32.720 --> 34:33.180
with you there.

34:34.040 --> 34:34.880
I also totally agree

34:34.880 --> 34:36.520
with you on the

34:36.520 --> 34:37.520
slider's phone.

34:37.620 --> 34:37.700
I mean,

34:37.740 --> 34:38.320
I always liked that

34:38.320 --> 34:38.820
when I actually

34:38.820 --> 34:39.320
first started

34:39.320 --> 34:40.020
watching the series

34:40.020 --> 34:41.580
back in 94,

34:41.800 --> 34:42.080
was it?

34:42.200 --> 34:42.480
Oh,

34:42.540 --> 34:42.740
man,

34:42.880 --> 34:43.500
way back when.

34:44.720 --> 34:45.080
And,

34:45.160 --> 34:45.260
you know,

34:45.320 --> 34:45.900
I was watching

34:45.900 --> 34:47.500
Jumanji the other day,

34:48.220 --> 34:48.840
and I remember

34:48.840 --> 34:49.360
when that movie

34:49.360 --> 34:50.200
first came out,

34:50.660 --> 34:51.460
and they had

34:51.460 --> 34:52.020
a board game.

34:52.100 --> 34:52.540
Milton Bradley

34:52.540 --> 34:53.140
made a game

34:53.140 --> 34:53.760
version of it,

34:53.760 --> 34:55.420
and I was

34:55.420 --> 34:55.720
thinking,

34:55.920 --> 34:56.300
because I was

34:56.300 --> 34:57.100
young and really

34:57.100 --> 34:57.400
dumb,

34:57.940 --> 34:58.340
that fucking,

34:58.440 --> 34:58.720
when you were

34:58.720 --> 34:59.320
to get the game,

34:59.400 --> 34:59.660
that it would

34:59.660 --> 35:00.260
actually look

35:00.260 --> 35:01.140
exactly like

35:01.140 --> 35:02.020
the Jumanji board,

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like with the

35:02.740 --> 35:03.840
opening wood doors

35:03.840 --> 35:04.280
and everything,

35:04.480 --> 35:04.840
and how it would

35:04.840 --> 35:05.380
open up,

35:05.760 --> 35:06.700
the pieces being

35:06.700 --> 35:07.440
like really the

35:07.440 --> 35:07.760
dice,

35:07.900 --> 35:08.060
you know,

35:08.280 --> 35:08.940
just how it

35:08.940 --> 35:09.260
looked.

35:09.700 --> 35:10.420
I knew that

35:10.420 --> 35:11.220
obviously they

35:11.220 --> 35:11.640
weren't going to

35:11.640 --> 35:12.220
spend too much

35:12.220 --> 35:12.620
money to have

35:12.620 --> 35:12.920
like a little

35:12.920 --> 35:13.500
globe in the

35:13.500 --> 35:14.260
middle float up,

35:14.300 --> 35:14.640
or have any

35:14.640 --> 35:15.040
of the pieces

35:15.040 --> 35:15.420
move,

35:15.800 --> 35:16.960
but the design of

35:16.960 --> 35:17.200
it would have

35:17.200 --> 35:17.540
been cool.

35:17.640 --> 35:17.860
Of course,

35:17.900 --> 35:18.340
when I got it,

35:18.360 --> 35:18.760
it was a cheap

35:18.760 --> 35:19.280
piece of crap,

35:19.340 --> 35:19.700
Milton Bradley

35:19.700 --> 35:20.180
board game,

35:20.180 --> 35:21.140
but I was

35:21.140 --> 35:21.420
looking on

35:21.420 --> 35:21.760
eBay,

35:21.940 --> 35:22.360
and no one

35:22.360 --> 35:22.820
has ever

35:22.820 --> 35:24.060
invented or

35:24.060 --> 35:24.620
come up with

35:24.620 --> 35:25.000
an actual

35:25.000 --> 35:25.840
duplicate of

35:25.840 --> 35:26.380
that board,

35:26.680 --> 35:27.080
and that would

35:27.080 --> 35:27.540
just be another

35:27.540 --> 35:28.020
souvenir,

35:28.340 --> 35:28.740
not really a

35:28.740 --> 35:28.920
souvenir,

35:29.100 --> 35:29.520
just some kind

35:29.520 --> 35:30.040
of little toy

35:30.040 --> 35:30.480
to have.

35:30.860 --> 35:31.240
They make

35:31.240 --> 35:31.960
lightsabers,

35:32.260 --> 35:32.700
they sell them

35:32.700 --> 35:33.100
for hundreds

35:33.100 --> 35:33.640
of dollars on

35:33.640 --> 35:33.840
eBay,

35:33.960 --> 35:34.280
but they don't

35:34.280 --> 35:34.580
make a

35:34.580 --> 35:35.180
slider's timer

35:35.180 --> 35:36.520
device or

35:36.520 --> 35:37.820
a hoverboard.

35:40.060 --> 35:40.320
These are

35:40.320 --> 35:40.580
things,

35:40.720 --> 35:41.280
get away from

35:41.280 --> 35:41.820
Star Wars,

35:41.900 --> 35:42.160
let's go

35:42.160 --> 35:42.800
focusing on

35:42.800 --> 35:43.320
other science

35:43.320 --> 35:43.920
fiction and

35:43.920 --> 35:44.940
fantasy movies.

35:45.660 --> 35:46.060
Well,

35:46.160 --> 35:46.640
funny that you

35:46.640 --> 35:47.160
bring you up,

35:47.340 --> 35:48.740
a brother of a

35:48.740 --> 35:49.300
friend,

35:50.180 --> 35:50.980
is actually

35:50.980 --> 35:51.900
a huge

35:51.900 --> 35:52.560
Star Wars,

35:52.640 --> 35:53.260
not Star Wars,

35:53.380 --> 35:53.820
oh god,

35:53.880 --> 35:54.120
see what you

35:54.120 --> 35:54.540
got me doing,

35:54.880 --> 35:55.620
is a huge

35:55.620 --> 35:56.300
Ghostbusters

35:56.300 --> 35:56.680
freak,

35:57.740 --> 35:58.760
and he's

35:58.760 --> 35:59.240
nuts,

35:59.620 --> 36:00.320
and what he

36:00.320 --> 36:01.360
has done is

36:01.360 --> 36:02.860
he has built

36:02.860 --> 36:03.640
not only

36:03.640 --> 36:05.140
four backpacks

36:05.140 --> 36:05.520
or whatever

36:05.520 --> 36:06.140
you call them,

36:06.680 --> 36:08.020
ecto-containment

36:08.020 --> 36:08.480
units or

36:08.480 --> 36:08.720
something,

36:09.420 --> 36:10.380
four traps,

36:10.740 --> 36:11.880
he also has

36:11.880 --> 36:12.840
built not

36:12.840 --> 36:13.260
one,

36:13.780 --> 36:14.900
but two

36:14.900 --> 36:18.220
Ghostbuster

36:18.220 --> 36:18.640
mobiles,

36:18.700 --> 36:18.900
or whatever

36:18.900 --> 36:19.300
they called

36:19.300 --> 36:19.460
it.

36:20.180 --> 36:20.620
Oh,

36:20.700 --> 36:20.980
wow.

36:21.320 --> 36:21.520
Yeah,

36:21.700 --> 36:21.980
like,

36:22.360 --> 36:23.940
he had one

36:23.940 --> 36:24.820
where it

36:24.820 --> 36:25.720
was a

36:25.720 --> 36:27.140
Cadillac

36:27.140 --> 36:27.600
ambulance,

36:28.060 --> 36:28.340
which I

36:28.340 --> 36:28.840
think was,

36:29.200 --> 36:29.580
it looks

36:29.580 --> 36:30.480
extremely similar

36:30.480 --> 36:30.780
to the

36:30.780 --> 36:32.560
original Ghostbusters

36:32.560 --> 36:32.880
mobile,

36:33.180 --> 36:33.460
I don't know

36:33.460 --> 36:33.620
what they

36:33.620 --> 36:34.320
actually call it,

36:34.700 --> 36:35.360
the car they

36:35.360 --> 36:35.840
used in the

36:35.840 --> 36:36.200
movie,

36:36.560 --> 36:37.040
and he

36:37.040 --> 36:37.540
restored it,

36:37.600 --> 36:37.800
and it

36:37.800 --> 36:38.420
looked a lot

36:38.420 --> 36:38.840
like it,

36:39.100 --> 36:39.600
and I

36:39.600 --> 36:40.100
think that

36:40.100 --> 36:40.560
his website

36:40.560 --> 36:41.040
said,

36:41.800 --> 36:43.360
anyway,

36:43.640 --> 36:44.460
I was going

36:44.460 --> 36:45.000
through this,

36:45.080 --> 36:45.480
and I actually

36:45.480 --> 36:45.960
found the

36:45.960 --> 36:46.780
original model,

36:47.240 --> 36:47.640
and it was

36:47.640 --> 36:48.280
for sale for

36:48.280 --> 36:48.460
like,

36:48.460 --> 36:49.240
a thousand

36:49.240 --> 36:49.540
bucks,

36:49.600 --> 36:50.060
so I bought

36:50.060 --> 36:50.200
it,

36:50.300 --> 36:50.600
and I'm

36:50.600 --> 36:51.220
actually going

36:51.220 --> 36:51.660
to restore

36:51.660 --> 36:52.100
this one,

36:52.220 --> 36:52.380
too.

36:53.180 --> 36:53.520
Oh,

36:53.600 --> 36:53.820
man.

36:53.980 --> 36:54.200
Yeah,

36:54.320 --> 36:55.240
the guy's

36:55.240 --> 36:55.620
insane,

36:55.780 --> 36:57.280
he's got the

36:57.280 --> 36:57.620
skills,

36:57.900 --> 36:59.540
but still,

36:59.740 --> 37:00.040
wow,

37:00.180 --> 37:00.780
holy crap.

37:00.780 --> 37:01.760
You know,

37:01.840 --> 37:02.420
I got a

37:02.420 --> 37:02.800
buddy of

37:02.800 --> 37:03.120
mine,

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because he's

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graduated with

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a master's,

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and he has

37:06.440 --> 37:07.380
a well-paying

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job,

37:07.780 --> 37:08.360
so he's

37:08.360 --> 37:08.620
allowed to

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buy things

37:09.240 --> 37:09.660
like this.

37:09.700 --> 37:10.000
He bought

37:10.000 --> 37:11.000
himself a

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hundred,

37:11.420 --> 37:11.720
I think it

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was a

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hundred or

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hundred

37:12.400 --> 37:12.580
fifty

37:12.580 --> 37:12.800
dollar

37:12.800 --> 37:13.460
lightsaber.

37:14.000 --> 37:14.160
I mean,

37:14.200 --> 37:14.420
I'm getting

37:14.420 --> 37:14.860
back into the

37:14.860 --> 37:15.300
Star Wars

37:15.300 --> 37:15.760
crap that

37:15.760 --> 37:16.180
everyone always

37:16.180 --> 37:16.480
has,

37:16.960 --> 37:17.280
but this

37:17.280 --> 37:17.760
lightsaber

37:17.760 --> 37:18.460
really was

37:18.460 --> 37:18.860
cool as

37:18.860 --> 37:19.040
shit.

37:19.120 --> 37:19.340
I would

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love to

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own one

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of these.

37:21.600 --> 37:22.160
Everyone has

37:22.160 --> 37:22.740
seen those

37:22.740 --> 37:23.520
lightsaber toys

37:23.520 --> 37:23.780
where you

37:23.780 --> 37:24.440
just pull it

37:24.440 --> 37:24.580
out,

37:24.660 --> 37:25.340
and the tube

37:25.340 --> 37:25.900
comes out,

37:25.960 --> 37:26.260
and it has

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the cheesy

37:26.740 --> 37:27.440
lights that

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you can

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turn on.

37:28.680 --> 37:29.000
Well,

37:29.060 --> 37:29.440
this thing,

37:29.600 --> 37:31.120
the tube was

37:31.120 --> 37:31.620
always out.

37:31.700 --> 37:32.040
It was made

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out of glass,

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and they were

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LED lights,

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so when you

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turned it on,

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the light would

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actually fade on

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all the way to

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the end like it

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does in the

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movie.

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If you were to

37:41.240 --> 37:41.600
see it in the

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dark,

37:41.980 --> 37:42.980
it looked exactly

37:42.980 --> 37:44.040
like the one

37:44.040 --> 37:44.440
in the movie.

37:44.640 --> 37:45.160
It looked so

37:45.160 --> 37:45.500
real.

37:46.000 --> 37:46.400
It had the

37:46.400 --> 37:46.980
sound effect,

37:47.140 --> 37:47.620
too, of course,

37:47.660 --> 37:48.040
when you turned

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it on,

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that noise.

37:50.240 --> 37:50.960
When you moved

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it, by the

37:52.260 --> 37:53.040
sensors, it would

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actually make

37:53.660 --> 37:55.100
identical to the

37:55.100 --> 37:55.800
sound, and when

37:55.800 --> 37:56.300
you would hit

37:56.300 --> 37:56.660
something,

37:56.740 --> 37:57.660
I hit my

37:57.660 --> 37:58.200
friend's leg

37:58.200 --> 37:59.100
with it, it

37:59.100 --> 37:59.700
would have the

37:59.700 --> 38:01.620
realistic sound

38:01.620 --> 38:02.580
to it when you

38:02.580 --> 38:02.960
would hit an

38:02.960 --> 38:03.240
object.

38:03.380 --> 38:04.020
It was really

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cool as hell.

38:04.640 --> 38:05.280
It had LED

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lights.

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I think it

38:06.980 --> 38:08.200
was a green

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one.

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No, it was a

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red one.

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It was a red

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one.

38:10.760 --> 38:11.300
It was really

38:11.300 --> 38:12.000
cool, but again,

38:12.060 --> 38:12.780
it was 150

38:12.780 --> 38:13.400
bikes.

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That's what

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they call

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geek rich boy

38:16.420 --> 38:16.920
toys.

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Exactly.

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When you have

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a master's, and

38:19.820 --> 38:20.120
you're making

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a shitload of

38:20.740 --> 38:21.520
money for some

38:21.520 --> 38:22.440
big corporation,

38:22.900 --> 38:23.180
you're a lot

38:23.180 --> 38:23.780
of bike crap

38:23.780 --> 38:24.540
like that.

38:24.540 --> 38:26.660
But to me,

38:26.740 --> 38:27.200
I'm not about

38:27.200 --> 38:27.820
the lightsabers.

38:27.900 --> 38:28.600
I'm about the

38:28.600 --> 38:29.280
flighter's timer

38:29.280 --> 38:29.820
and the Jumanji

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board game.

38:30.460 --> 38:31.060
Oh yeah, so by

38:31.060 --> 38:32.020
the way, it's

38:32.020 --> 38:33.680
John, I'm going

38:33.680 --> 38:34.460
to pronounce his

38:34.460 --> 38:35.000
last name

38:35.000 --> 38:35.340
correctly,

38:35.940 --> 38:36.760
Rhys Davies,

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R-H-Y-S-D-A-V-I-E-S.

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It's hyphenated.

38:41.160 --> 38:41.640
I guess it's

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Rhys or

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Wrists or

38:42.760 --> 38:43.080
something.

38:44.240 --> 38:44.580
Okay.

38:44.580 --> 38:46.460
So that's

38:46.460 --> 38:48.020
Professor Maximilian

38:48.020 --> 38:48.760
Arturo, I

38:48.760 --> 38:49.300
believe his name

38:49.300 --> 38:49.560
was.

38:50.340 --> 38:50.640
Yes.

38:51.440 --> 38:52.100
See, I remember

38:52.100 --> 38:52.700
some things.

38:53.640 --> 38:54.280
Yes, he was

38:54.280 --> 38:55.580
the best one

38:55.580 --> 38:56.000
on the show.

38:56.460 --> 38:57.260
I got to agree

38:57.260 --> 38:57.680
with you right

38:57.680 --> 38:57.900
there.

38:59.220 --> 38:59.920
That show was,

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even without when

39:00.940 --> 39:01.460
he left, they

39:01.460 --> 39:01.960
still did a good

39:01.960 --> 39:02.520
job, but it

39:02.520 --> 39:03.100
just wasn't as

39:03.100 --> 39:03.420
strong.

39:04.260 --> 39:04.700
Indeed.

39:05.420 --> 39:06.180
You could tell

39:06.180 --> 39:06.540
that it died

39:06.540 --> 39:06.820
down.

39:08.240 --> 39:08.600
Anyway.

39:10.740 --> 39:11.680
My story is

39:11.680 --> 39:11.880
up.

39:11.980 --> 39:12.540
I went to

39:12.540 --> 39:12.860
Vaughn.

39:13.260 --> 39:14.120
Vaughn was very

39:14.120 --> 39:14.480
cool.

39:15.160 --> 39:16.100
Everybody is

39:16.100 --> 39:16.880
into VoIP now.

39:17.580 --> 39:18.240
It's freaking

39:18.240 --> 39:18.780
creepy.

39:21.200 --> 39:22.420
The word of

39:22.420 --> 39:23.060
telephony is

39:23.060 --> 39:23.620
ending, and

39:23.620 --> 39:24.240
now it's all

39:24.240 --> 39:24.800
about VoIP.

39:25.100 --> 39:25.420
Yeah, I

39:25.420 --> 39:25.660
know.

39:26.540 --> 39:27.180
Dude, Microsoft

39:27.180 --> 39:27.840
was there.

39:28.020 --> 39:28.540
Who else was

39:28.540 --> 39:28.700
there?

39:28.760 --> 39:29.060
Just like

39:29.060 --> 39:29.540
companies I

39:29.540 --> 39:29.860
never heard

39:29.860 --> 39:29.960
of.

39:30.260 --> 39:30.680
I actually

39:30.680 --> 39:31.020
picked.

39:31.760 --> 39:32.580
I have this

39:32.580 --> 39:33.040
flyer.

39:33.220 --> 39:33.780
Actually, no,

39:33.820 --> 39:34.180
it's not in

39:34.180 --> 39:34.460
front of me.

39:34.520 --> 39:34.880
What a shame.

39:36.360 --> 39:37.880
Through some

39:37.880 --> 39:38.460
company, and

39:38.460 --> 39:38.940
they're offering

39:38.940 --> 39:40.700
cheap CNAM

39:40.700 --> 39:41.180
access.

39:42.760 --> 39:43.580
I really

39:43.580 --> 39:43.980
wanted to

39:43.980 --> 39:44.320
submit a

39:44.320 --> 39:45.440
request for

39:45.440 --> 39:45.700
a quote

39:45.700 --> 39:45.980
from them.

39:46.040 --> 39:46.340
I have

39:46.340 --> 39:46.720
their number.

39:47.180 --> 39:47.640
I think I

39:47.640 --> 39:48.080
should fax

39:48.080 --> 39:48.220
them.

39:49.500 --> 39:50.180
Oh, man.

39:51.460 --> 39:52.220
That's cool.

39:52.380 --> 39:52.860
Yeah, I know.

39:52.900 --> 39:53.420
It's pretty neat.

39:53.560 --> 39:54.600
It was much

39:54.600 --> 39:55.220
more geared

39:55.220 --> 39:57.140
toward providers

39:57.140 --> 39:57.840
and people

39:57.840 --> 39:58.160
who actually

39:58.160 --> 39:58.720
have budgets,

39:59.480 --> 40:00.320
and there was

40:00.320 --> 40:01.020
literally no

40:01.020 --> 40:01.620
swag there.

40:01.620 --> 40:03.880
the things that

40:03.880 --> 40:04.300
really jumped

40:04.300 --> 40:04.680
out at me

40:04.680 --> 40:05.460
is Sun's

40:05.460 --> 40:05.800
coming out

40:05.800 --> 40:06.060
with an

40:06.060 --> 40:06.300
instant

40:06.300 --> 40:06.760
messenger

40:06.760 --> 40:09.900
server that

40:09.900 --> 40:10.680
is jabber

40:10.680 --> 40:11.240
based, but

40:11.240 --> 40:11.820
it has all

40:11.820 --> 40:12.140
kinds of

40:12.140 --> 40:12.940
crazy wipe

40:12.940 --> 40:13.980
capabilities built

40:13.980 --> 40:14.440
into it, and

40:14.440 --> 40:14.760
that seemed

40:14.760 --> 40:15.300
kind of cool.

40:16.060 --> 40:16.420
Wow.

40:17.780 --> 40:18.260
That was the

40:18.260 --> 40:18.540
only thing that

40:18.540 --> 40:18.940
really stood

40:18.940 --> 40:19.300
out to me.

40:19.380 --> 40:20.120
IBM had some

40:20.120 --> 40:21.060
interesting things

40:21.060 --> 40:22.900
for mid-market

40:22.900 --> 40:23.520
type stuff.

40:24.800 --> 40:25.360
I mean,

40:25.380 --> 40:25.980
nothing exciting,

40:26.080 --> 40:26.380
nothing that

40:26.380 --> 40:27.020
really blew my

40:27.020 --> 40:27.680
socks off,

40:27.680 --> 40:29.160
and I was

40:29.160 --> 40:30.920
yeah, whatever.

40:33.300 --> 40:34.300
Also, I'm

40:34.300 --> 40:35.000
actually going to

40:35.000 --> 40:35.580
upgrade my new

40:35.580 --> 40:36.180
computer, and I

40:36.180 --> 40:37.120
got to say, I

40:37.120 --> 40:37.860
now know why I

40:37.860 --> 40:38.400
never do it,

40:38.440 --> 40:38.980
because upgrading

40:38.980 --> 40:39.640
a new computer

40:39.640 --> 40:40.620
sucks ass.

40:41.500 --> 40:42.440
Just buying all

40:42.440 --> 40:42.920
the parts and

40:42.920 --> 40:43.320
everything and

40:43.320 --> 40:43.920
figuring out what

40:43.920 --> 40:44.560
works and what

40:44.560 --> 40:45.340
fits and what

40:45.340 --> 40:46.220
you got to buy

40:46.220 --> 40:47.120
and whether or

40:47.120 --> 40:47.800
not all your

40:47.800 --> 40:48.540
current stuff will

40:48.540 --> 40:49.100
work on the new

40:49.100 --> 40:49.400
motherboard.

40:49.560 --> 40:50.080
Oh, Jesus

40:50.080 --> 40:50.480
Christ.

40:51.000 --> 40:51.560
It's just

40:51.560 --> 40:51.980
annoying.

40:53.740 --> 40:54.560
I always like

40:54.560 --> 40:55.160
building my own

40:55.160 --> 40:56.680
PC, but it's

40:56.680 --> 40:57.660
frustrating sometimes.

40:57.960 --> 40:58.260
Christ.

40:59.720 --> 41:00.280
Hopefully, I'll

41:00.280 --> 41:00.680
have a new

41:00.680 --> 41:01.280
case come

41:01.280 --> 41:02.180
tomorrow and

41:02.180 --> 41:02.560
along with

41:02.560 --> 41:03.260
other things

41:03.260 --> 41:03.480
that I'm

41:03.480 --> 41:04.040
going to buy

41:04.040 --> 41:05.460
and have

41:05.460 --> 41:05.800
everything

41:05.800 --> 41:06.320
hopefully set

41:06.320 --> 41:06.680
up by the

41:06.680 --> 41:06.920
end of the

41:06.920 --> 41:07.120
week.

41:07.400 --> 41:07.780
Here's open.

41:09.060 --> 41:09.560
At which

41:09.560 --> 41:10.080
point, I'll

41:10.080 --> 41:11.080
go from a

41:11.080 --> 41:12.600
P3 733 to

41:12.600 --> 41:13.560
an Athlon

41:13.560 --> 41:13.960
1500.

41:14.280 --> 41:14.760
I'll still be

41:14.760 --> 41:15.120
behind the

41:15.120 --> 41:15.580
curve, but a

41:15.580 --> 41:15.980
little less.

41:16.740 --> 41:17.160
That's good,

41:17.240 --> 41:17.420
though.

41:18.900 --> 41:20.260
2100 XP, so

41:20.260 --> 41:21.020
it's like 1500

41:21.020 --> 41:21.720
megahertz or

41:21.720 --> 41:21.980
something.

41:22.120 --> 41:22.560
I don't know

41:22.560 --> 41:22.900
how it sets

41:22.900 --> 41:23.040
in.

41:23.840 --> 41:24.440
AMDs are just

41:24.440 --> 41:24.800
weird.

41:25.540 --> 41:26.260
Oh, it's got

41:26.260 --> 41:26.940
2100 on it,

41:26.980 --> 41:27.360
but you can't

41:27.360 --> 41:27.660
run it that

41:27.660 --> 41:28.060
fast.

41:28.260 --> 41:28.560
Well, what's

41:28.560 --> 41:28.840
the point

41:28.840 --> 41:29.060
then?

41:32.340 --> 41:34.340
Anyway, those

41:34.340 --> 41:35.020
are my two

41:35.020 --> 41:35.300
stories.

41:35.380 --> 41:35.680
I haven't been

41:35.680 --> 41:36.060
doing much

41:36.060 --> 41:36.320
else.

41:37.540 --> 41:38.220
Specific show

41:38.220 --> 41:38.880
topics tonight.

41:39.020 --> 41:39.780
Tonight, we're

41:39.780 --> 41:40.320
going to talk

41:40.320 --> 41:41.120
about WordPress.

41:41.120 --> 41:41.340
WordPress.

41:43.340 --> 41:44.740
The reason why we

41:44.740 --> 41:45.240
have Doug on

41:45.240 --> 41:46.360
here is we've

41:46.360 --> 41:46.900
both become

41:46.900 --> 41:47.860
WordPress whores,

41:48.200 --> 41:48.880
as Doug put

41:48.880 --> 41:49.060
it.

41:49.280 --> 41:49.640
The reason we

41:49.640 --> 41:50.180
have Doug on

41:50.180 --> 41:50.640
here is because

41:50.640 --> 41:51.120
no one else

41:51.120 --> 41:51.640
wanted to be on

41:51.640 --> 41:52.520
to submit it.

41:53.640 --> 41:54.360
We need to

41:54.360 --> 41:54.720
get you on

41:54.720 --> 41:54.880
more.

41:54.880 --> 41:55.600
I was last on

41:55.600 --> 41:56.060
the list.

41:57.060 --> 41:57.640
Actually, no, you

41:57.640 --> 41:58.100
were the first

41:58.100 --> 41:58.480
on the list

41:58.480 --> 42:00.940
because I had

42:00.940 --> 42:01.880
no topic today

42:01.880 --> 42:02.840
because I was

42:02.840 --> 42:03.600
busy this weekend.

42:03.720 --> 42:04.040
I had a bit of

42:04.040 --> 42:04.680
a family emergency.

42:04.980 --> 42:05.800
So I basically

42:05.800 --> 42:06.500
came into work

42:06.500 --> 42:07.000
this morning and

42:07.000 --> 42:07.780
said, oh, shit,

42:07.860 --> 42:08.340
it's Monday.

42:08.480 --> 42:09.220
I have to tape.

42:10.220 --> 42:10.940
And I was just

42:10.940 --> 42:12.260
like, okay, what

42:12.260 --> 42:13.260
can we talk about?

42:13.520 --> 42:14.240
And I said, oh,

42:14.380 --> 42:14.660
WordPress.

42:15.020 --> 42:15.300
WordPress.

42:15.480 --> 42:16.140
I upgraded to

42:16.140 --> 42:16.320
WordPress.

42:16.480 --> 42:17.380
I can do a review

42:17.380 --> 42:17.980
of it and talk

42:17.980 --> 42:18.380
about it.

42:19.280 --> 42:19.900
Who else do we

42:19.900 --> 42:20.260
want to get on

42:20.260 --> 42:20.420
here?

42:20.660 --> 42:21.380
Oh, Doug just

42:21.380 --> 42:21.880
upgraded to

42:21.880 --> 42:22.140
WordPress.

42:22.300 --> 42:22.740
We can get him

42:22.740 --> 42:23.120
on here.

42:24.140 --> 42:24.400
Yeah.

42:24.620 --> 42:25.900
And thus, Doug

42:25.900 --> 42:26.300
was here.

42:26.460 --> 42:27.520
And then Strom

42:27.520 --> 42:28.560
sort of had to

42:28.560 --> 42:29.080
bow out at the

42:29.080 --> 42:29.480
last minute.

42:29.660 --> 42:31.540
So it's just us

42:31.540 --> 42:32.100
for your listening

42:32.100 --> 42:32.520
enjoyment.

42:34.600 --> 42:35.140
Yeah, my

42:35.140 --> 42:35.740
screensaver is

42:35.740 --> 42:36.640
really transfixing

42:36.640 --> 42:37.280
me right now on

42:37.280 --> 42:38.120
my laptop, so I'm

42:38.120 --> 42:38.440
going to turn

42:38.440 --> 42:38.920
that off.

42:40.620 --> 42:41.160
What kind of

42:41.160 --> 42:41.940
screensaver is it?

42:41.940 --> 42:43.720
It looks like

42:43.720 --> 42:44.720
it's a gravity

42:44.720 --> 42:45.800
simulation of

42:45.800 --> 42:46.820
orbiting planets,

42:46.940 --> 42:48.760
and it's just, I

42:48.760 --> 42:49.300
find that kind of

42:49.300 --> 42:49.960
stuff fascinating

42:49.960 --> 42:50.380
because I'm a

42:50.380 --> 42:51.140
geek, so.

42:51.480 --> 42:51.800
Uh-huh.

42:52.160 --> 42:52.500
Yeah.

42:52.920 --> 42:53.440
What's wrong

42:53.440 --> 42:53.680
with that?

42:54.820 --> 42:56.580
Anyway, what is

42:56.580 --> 42:56.900
WordPress?

42:57.600 --> 42:58.080
According to the

42:58.080 --> 42:59.060
website, WordPress

42:59.060 --> 43:00.120
was born out of a

43:00.120 --> 43:00.760
desire for an

43:00.760 --> 43:02.560
elegant, well-architectured

43:02.560 --> 43:03.300
personal publishing

43:03.300 --> 43:04.140
system built on

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PHP and MySQL and

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licensed under its

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VPL.

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And if you do some

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research on it, it's

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the official

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successor to

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something called

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B2, which I

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believe was a

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successor to

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something called

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Cafe Blog.

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Right, yeah.

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B2, it used to

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be called B2

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Blogger.

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Yeah, I

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actually remember

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playing around

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with that and

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saying, boy, this

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sucked.

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No, I've always,

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that's why I like

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WordPress, because I

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always was a big

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fan of B2 Blogger.

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And then I guess, I

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don't know, I

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thought they always

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changed their name

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to WordPress.

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I don't know if

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they got bought out

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or if they changed

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their name, but to

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this day, I'm still

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a fan of the same

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system.

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They've had a nice

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new, a lot of new

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features, but we'll

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get into that later.

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Yeah, well, B2 was

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cool, but not what I

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wanted at the time.

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Uh-huh.

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It was going to be

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hard to working into

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my existing site, and

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that's something that I

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didn't want, so that's

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why I opted out of it.

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But I know, it was

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cool.

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I liked it.

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It was very elegant and

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very well designed.

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And I believe, actually,

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what you were talking

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about, WordPress was a

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fork of B2, and

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basically, the guy who

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was running B2 or

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something said, oh,

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okay, we'll just sort of

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move over to this, because

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this guy's doing all

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this kind of cool stuff.

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And thus, WordPress was

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born.

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WordPress is kind of a

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fresh software, but,

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you know, I think B2

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started in, like, 2001

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or something.

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I don't know the date.

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Yeah, around 2001,

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yeah.

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Yeah.

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Pretty mature and

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stable, and what they

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try to do is they focus

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on the user experience

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and web standards.

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And it's pretty much a

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unique tool out there.

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The only thing that I

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can really compare it to

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is something called

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movable type.

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And movable type is

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another web blog

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software.

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All these semi-official

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blogs, I don't, the

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only one that I know

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that uses it, two that

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I know, are Wonket and

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Little Green Football,

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which are two political

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blogs, left and right

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wing, respectively.

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And those are the only

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two that I know.

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I believe a lot of

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those tech TV or

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former tech TV, whatever

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the hell they are now,

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a lot of those people

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use movable type,

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that commercial

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software.

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Isn't it movable type

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of commercial software,

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isn't it?

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Yeah, movable type,

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is commercial software.

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Anyway, that's a

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movable type, just so

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you know, is a

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sixapart.com slash

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movable type.

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And I believe they

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have a free version,

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but it's really

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restricted.

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And their small

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version costs $39,

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and their major

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version costs $69.

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However, WordPress,

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free, looks exactly

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the same, and you'll

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just have a much

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warm, fuzzy feeling

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when you use it or

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something.

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So anyway, when I

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was basically looking

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to update it to

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some type of content

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management software

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that was kind of

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low impact, and

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something that kind of

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looked elegant and not

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too ugly.

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So I was torn between

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WordPress and another

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web-blocking utility

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called Poseidon, which

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I completely forgot the

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URL.

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And those are the

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two that I was

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fiddling with, and I

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started playing around

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with movable type first

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because I used

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Poseidon before, and I

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liked it.

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It was really nice and

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just a very smooth

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user interface.

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Also, there's more

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than a few things I

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liked about it, and a

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lot of it's listed on

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their website, is that

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it's fully standard

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compliant.

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All their little HTML

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and everything they

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generate is fully

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compatible with CSS and

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XHT.

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I believe it's XHTML

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compatible.

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It's some W3C standard.

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I'm not sure which

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one.

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Something that I, the

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other one that I was

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looking at was

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Nanoblogger, which is

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what bellsmind.net

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uses, because I was

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looking for something

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that, like I said,

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relatively low impact.

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However, the thing that

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really drove me nuts

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about Nanoblogger, and

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movable type for that

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matter, was that every

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time you update your

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site, you have to

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rebuild it.

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You have to run a

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command, and it

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regenerates all the

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files, which...

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Oh, that's annoying.

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Yeah, isn't that

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stupid?

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That's pointless.

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Yeah, why would

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anyone even want to

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do that?

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So, yeah, that's sort

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of blue Nanoblogger

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right out, along with

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movable type.

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So, WordPress doesn't

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do that.

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Neither does

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Poseidon for that

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matter.

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What I also like about

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WordPress is that it

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was a real content

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management site.

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Like, for example, you

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can have pages that are

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not part of the whole

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blogging thing.

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I hate that term,

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anyway.

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Like, I have...

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Yeah, blogging.

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Blogging!

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I'm a blogger.

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Dude, just call

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yourself internet

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journalist or something.

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It sounds a whole lot

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more official and less

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sappy.

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So, yeah, it has pages

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like, you know, all my

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stuff for Defcon, I put

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on a separate WordPress

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page, and, like, two or

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three other things that I

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had that were on my old

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site, I moved over to

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WordPress, and it was

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relatively simple.

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I mean, I had to create

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the pages, and I had to

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figure out how to do

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them, but other than

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that, it was just sort of

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straight copy and paste.

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I took all my old HTML and

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just pasted them into the

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new pages, and WordPress

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picks it all up, made them

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look pretty, and everything

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worked fine.

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WordPress has everything,

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like, all built into its

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interface, like, you know,

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links.

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On top of that, you can have

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your own little blog rule,

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which I'm not exactly sure

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what exactly it is, but

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it's called a blog rule,

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and I believe what it is

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is it's a bunch of links,

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but what it does is it

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updates, like, you know,

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say I have, like, you

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Lucky and Stank on my

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blog rule.

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If Stank updates, he

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moves to the top, and

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then if you update, you

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move to the top, and Stank

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moves down one below you,

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and it just keeps on

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moving around and have

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the most up-to-date,

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fresh content on top.

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Yeah, I believe that's

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how it works.

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Some want to email me

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and correct me if I'm

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wrong.

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Like I said, I'm all new

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to this whole blogging

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thing.

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Oh, boy.

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WordPress has a ton of

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themes, and some of them

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are very elegant.

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I settled on one that was

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right on their, linked

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off their front homepage,

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but there literally are

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hundreds of ones you

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can choose from.

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You didn't choose

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stuff all themed, did

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you?

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No, I actually just used

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my own HTML layout, and

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I just imported the

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HTML code, which is

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really easy to do, over

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to whatever new layout

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I was using.

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So, like, all your

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stuff that you had, you

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just sort of directly

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imported into WordPress?

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Yeah, whatever design

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that I have or that I'm

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working on, I can simply

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just import.

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I use the, I've always

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used B2 or WordPress

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now as mostly just

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designed for a news

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system.

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It was easier to post,

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like, news updates on a

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website, like, for

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example, when I was

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working on the Doug

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Show website, which was

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supposed to be a radio

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show, whenever we were

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going to update news

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about the show, like

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what this week's episode

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was about and things, I

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would just paste or write

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everything in the B2

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blog or WordPress, I'm

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so used to B2, into

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WordPress and just submit

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it, and it would be on

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the front page of the

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website, and it would be

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there and done with.

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And it was just, that's

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what I always used it for.

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A lot of people use

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things like that for their

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blogs to write about

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their day or write what

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they're working on, which

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is what I use on my

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website now.

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I use it to anything

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that I'm working on or

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anything like that, that's

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what I use it for.

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But I never liked, I'm

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always, I'm never a fan

50:23.320 --> 50:25.120
of any kind of engine and

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using their default themes

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and layouts, because a lot

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of people usually

50:28.960 --> 50:30.220
automatically judge you on,

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you know, what you're

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using, like, oh, this

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guy's a WordPress noob,

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this guy's a movable type

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noob, you know, things

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like that.

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So that's why I've always

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used custom themes, and I

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would just import the PHP

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code like that.

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Yeah, I just used one of

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the themes I pulled off

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their main page.

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It was not completely

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different, but at the

50:50.220 --> 50:51.040
same time, it kind of

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stood out.

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And basically, that's

50:53.440 --> 50:54.240
exactly why I kind of

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moved over to WordPress,

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or just some type of

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content management type

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system thingy.

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Yeah, it makes life

51:00.840 --> 51:01.160
easier.

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Yeah, it makes life

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easier.

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Yeah, I just want to

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have something where I

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could update it all the

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time, just on a whim.

51:07.000 --> 51:09.280
Because my site, I

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didn't update it within

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for, I'd say, for about

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two or three months, and

51:14.060 --> 51:15.760
I finally said that, you

51:15.760 --> 51:16.600
know, I'm not making any

51:16.600 --> 51:17.100
new content.

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Let's just post something

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where I can post random

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things on there.

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And I, like, if you go to

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my webpage right now, the

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top story is for me is

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something called This

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Disturbs Me, and it's a

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picture of a city toilet

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in Boston, and it says

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right on top, city toilet,

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and then if you look right

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below it, it has a little

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sign that says, this

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property is protected under

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electronic surveillance.

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And it's just something

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that I ran across, it's

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like two blocks from my

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building, and it was

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just something that I

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said, oh, well, where the

51:44.600 --> 51:45.240
heck can I post this?

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And I said, oh, I can

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put it on my website.

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And WordPress just made

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it that easy.

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Yeah, that's exactly why

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I made my own website

51:53.500 --> 51:54.680
recently, was just so I

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could post anything that

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I'm, any little thing,

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or, like, for example,

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right now I just post it,

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I'm going to be on

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Binary Revolution Radio,

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if you care, listen to

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it.

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You know, if you know

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who I am, if you're

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actually interested in

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shit that I'm doing,

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it's a good website for

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that, or if you want to

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show some friends

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something that, you know,

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you're working on, or

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some rant you want to

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talk about, and that's

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also why I have a

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gallery for, I like to

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take pictures a lot, and

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now I finally have

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something that I don't

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have to worry about

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because it's on my own

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hosting.

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I can post pictures,

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just upload JPEGs, and

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then automatically it's

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going to be on my

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website.

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It makes life so much

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easier.

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Oh, hey, I just

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checked out cdouglas.org,

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and I found out that

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you're going to be on

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BinRev Radio Tuesday at

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6.30pm PT slash 9.30pm ET.

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Actually, you might want

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to change that.

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If you listened to a

52:38.800 --> 52:39.580
couple weeks ago, you'll

52:39.580 --> 52:40.200
turn out that you're

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technically not on Rant

52:41.200 --> 52:41.800
Radio Talk.

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You'll be on Rant Radio

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Talk next week.

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Oh, wait, what?

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You guys changed the

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system now?

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No, they changed the

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system on us, and they

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pull it off the podcast

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now.

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In case for anyone who

52:53.540 --> 52:54.760
didn't know, if you're

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listening to this on Rant

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Radio, technically you're

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listening to last week's

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episode, if you're

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listening to it right

53:00.340 --> 53:01.920
now, if you turn over

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to the ddpradio at

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ddphackradio.org, I

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believe, go over there

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and you'll pick up the

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fresh, steaming new

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episode that we just

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put out.

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Oh, man.

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They get it from a

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podcast feed?

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Yeah.

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Like I said, it's a

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lot easier to me, but

53:21.340 --> 53:22.620
you can listen to this

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rant on episode 110, I

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think it was.

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It's a lot easier for me,

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but at the same time,

53:28.420 --> 53:29.420
I mean, I don't like,

53:29.700 --> 53:30.440
because I think that

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Rant Radio has a much

53:31.340 --> 53:32.380
larger stream than we

53:32.380 --> 53:34.060
have, but whatever.

53:34.260 --> 53:34.700
It's the only way they

53:34.700 --> 53:35.200
want to do it.

53:35.240 --> 53:36.020
They basically sent an

53:36.020 --> 53:36.740
email to Stank saying,

53:36.800 --> 53:37.280
hey, we're doing it

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this way now, and we

53:38.020 --> 53:38.980
said, yeah, fine, okay,

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whatever.

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Still, though, so wait

53:42.180 --> 53:42.800
a minute, do they do

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this for every show?

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They just get a podcast

53:44.520 --> 53:45.800
and it's going to be a

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week delay?

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I'm assuming so.

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Well, no, if you want

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to update your podcast

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early, that's fine, but

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for us, that wasn't an

53:53.340 --> 53:53.540
option.

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So, okay, they get

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the show from a podcast

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and it's up to the

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host, like, as soon as

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they upload it, that's

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when they're going to

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broadcast whatever the

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latest podcast is.

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Yes.

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Okay, I think, well,

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why don't you just

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upload the podcast the

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same time you upload

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DDP Hack Radio?

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Because we upload DDP

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Hack Radio after the

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show kicks off at 930.

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We've already discussed

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this.

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Listen to the old

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radio show.

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Well, let's go move

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back to WordPress.

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To me, it just seems

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that's really stupid of

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Rant Radio.

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I don't know why they

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would change something

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that worked.

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Personally, I agree

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with you.

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I think it's kind of

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silly, but anyway, it's

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your radio station,

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whatever.

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When I met one of

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those guys at Rant Radio,

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I asked about, you

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know, what the hell

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are they thinking of

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and he kind of

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agreed with me.

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So, at least I know

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it's not all Rant Radio,

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it's just specific

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people in general that

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work there that don't

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know what they're

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doing.

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Well, technically,

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this is the internet.

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No one knows what the

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hell they're doing.

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Moving back to

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WordPress.

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Moving back to

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WordPress.

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Some of the cool

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stuff, like I was

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talking about the

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blog rolls, they have

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cross-redblog

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communication tools.

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What that is, is if,

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for example, if

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Charlie, yeah,

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if Doug links to my

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site and links to one

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of my entries, I can

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see it, I get an

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email message saying,

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hey, someone linked

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to your site, check it

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out, you know, this is

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what they said about

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it.

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And they have all

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kinds of stuff where

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it's...

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They have?

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They have that?

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I didn't even notice

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that.

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Oh, yeah, they have

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it.

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It's called, like,

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trackback pings.

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You have to enable

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it, I believe, but

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it's...

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I know, I actually

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think it's enabled by

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default.

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Like, for example, I

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posted...

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I accidentally linked

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to one of my

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articles, and I got

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this email message

55:32.320 --> 55:33.680
saying, hey, check

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this out, blackratchet.org,

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link to one of your

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articles.

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And I was like,

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oh, no shit.

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I did it.

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So, and they also

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have, like, the blog

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roll capability where

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you can do it by hand,

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and it's pretty

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interesting, all the

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stuff they've kind of

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developed around this

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whole system.

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It's pretty cool, I

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gotta say.

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That is cool.

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Comments.

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People can leave you

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comments.

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I think one person

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has left me a comment.

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You can actually turn it

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off if you want, in

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case you don't like

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comment spam and

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everything.

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Like, for example, I

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don't believe you have

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comments enabled.

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No, you don't.

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No, I took that in the

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actual PHP code on the

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website after you

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couldn't see any

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comments or anything

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because I don't really

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think anyone has

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care enough to comment

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anyway.

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Dude, I want to

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comment on those

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Rant Radio stories.

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You noob, you can't

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do it on Rant Radio.

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Yeah, I fixed it.

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So, a lot of people

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turn off comments

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because of spam, and

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what they do is they

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basically, you know,

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leave you a comment.

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Hey, that's a really

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interesting story.

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You should really

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check out my website

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at XXXHotBabes.com.

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So, you can disable

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comments.

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However, WordPress

56:37.540 --> 56:38.860
also has spam

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protection.

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Good shit.

56:41.040 --> 56:41.860
What they do is they

56:41.860 --> 56:42.320
have all kinds of

56:42.320 --> 56:42.980
interesting stuff where

56:42.980 --> 56:43.440
they have, like, you

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know, blacklisted URLs,

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blacklisted words,

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context management.

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They don't let people

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just post tons and

56:50.420 --> 56:50.960
tons of links.

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They'll say, hey, you

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need to actually include

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some text in there.

56:55.380 --> 56:56.300
Also, another way of

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presenting spam is they

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have user registration.

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Like, for example, well,

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I have to register to

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post articles, and if I

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wanted to have Doug

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post on my site, he'd

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have to register, too.

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But if you want to

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leave a comment on my

57:06.740 --> 57:08.260
site, I believe, I'm

57:08.260 --> 57:08.860
not sure if I have

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anonymous comments

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enabled.

57:11.460 --> 57:12.400
You can make it so

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that only people who

57:13.360 --> 57:14.020
are registered on your

57:14.020 --> 57:14.680
site and provided a

57:14.680 --> 57:15.660
valid email address and

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actually go through the

57:16.280 --> 57:17.060
registration process

57:17.060 --> 57:17.880
are the only people who

57:17.880 --> 57:18.680
can send you comments.

57:21.620 --> 57:22.960
You can password

57:22.960 --> 57:24.740
protect posts for some

57:24.740 --> 57:25.020
reason.

57:25.320 --> 57:26.420
You can have it so

57:26.420 --> 57:27.820
that you can only post

57:27.820 --> 57:28.980
little articles that

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only certain people can

57:29.920 --> 57:30.640
get into if they know

57:30.640 --> 57:31.420
the secret password.

57:32.180 --> 57:33.560
LiveJournal has this.

57:33.700 --> 57:34.300
I thought it was a

57:34.300 --> 57:35.280
stupid back then, and I

57:35.280 --> 57:36.040
still think it's stupid

57:36.040 --> 57:36.320
now.

57:36.460 --> 57:38.620
Send a bloody email out

57:38.620 --> 57:39.580
to your friends if you

57:39.580 --> 57:39.720
want to review it.

57:39.720 --> 57:40.840
Yeah, that doesn't make

57:40.840 --> 57:41.700
much sense to me.

57:42.340 --> 57:42.980
The other thing that

57:42.980 --> 57:43.780
they do, well, we'll get

57:43.780 --> 57:45.600
into this later, is that,

57:45.740 --> 57:46.380
for example, if you're

57:46.380 --> 57:48.280
into a multi-author

57:48.280 --> 57:50.080
environment, if we

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shared a website and you

57:51.280 --> 57:52.160
created something and you

57:52.160 --> 57:53.100
password protected, I

57:53.100 --> 57:54.040
couldn't go in and sneak

57:54.040 --> 57:55.000
in and edit it unless I

57:55.000 --> 57:55.560
knew the password.

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But I guess that's kind

58:00.000 --> 58:00.840
of important, but if

58:00.840 --> 58:01.400
you're running a website

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with people, hopefully

58:02.240 --> 58:03.120
enough you can trust them

58:03.120 --> 58:04.060
so they won't edit your

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articles maliciously.

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They tout that it's

58:09.320 --> 58:11.000
easily installed and

58:11.000 --> 58:11.820
upgrades, and I've got to

58:11.820 --> 58:13.060
say that they are

58:13.060 --> 58:13.760
completely right.

58:13.880 --> 58:15.600
It is just a breeze to

58:15.600 --> 58:16.680
upgrade and install,

58:16.900 --> 58:17.680
because I think they've

58:17.680 --> 58:18.580
upgraded once since I

58:18.580 --> 58:19.420
started using it, and

58:19.420 --> 58:20.980
it was basically unload

58:20.980 --> 58:23.160
this tar file, give us

58:23.160 --> 58:23.960
your password for your

58:23.960 --> 58:25.340
database so we can write

58:25.340 --> 58:26.620
it down, and then we'll

58:26.620 --> 58:27.440
take care of the rest.

58:27.440 --> 58:29.400
And installation was a

58:29.400 --> 58:29.740
breeze, too.

58:29.780 --> 58:30.240
I'll get into that

58:30.240 --> 58:30.480
later.

58:32.280 --> 58:34.000
Easy importing, like

58:34.000 --> 58:35.040
Doug said right there,

58:35.120 --> 58:36.200
you can basically do

58:36.200 --> 58:36.920
anything, and they also

58:36.920 --> 58:38.040
have built-in importing

58:38.040 --> 58:39.680
for movable type, text

58:39.680 --> 58:40.540
pattern, gray matter,

58:40.740 --> 58:41.940
blogger, and B2, which

58:41.940 --> 58:43.080
are all different blogging

58:43.080 --> 58:43.580
softwares.

58:44.920 --> 58:46.080
Something that I found

58:46.080 --> 58:47.080
interesting is they have

58:47.080 --> 58:48.860
an XML RPC interface,

58:49.160 --> 58:50.060
which is a fancy way of

58:50.060 --> 58:51.340
saying we have an open

58:51.340 --> 58:53.060
way of actually controlling

58:53.060 --> 58:54.080
posts and everything, so

58:54.080 --> 58:55.140
you can basically download

58:55.140 --> 58:57.320
clients and update them

58:57.320 --> 58:58.220
from wherever you want.

58:58.320 --> 58:59.420
Like, for example, there's

58:59.420 --> 59:02.840
a few ones where you can

59:02.840 --> 59:03.920
run directly on your PC

59:03.920 --> 59:04.820
and have it update your

59:04.820 --> 59:05.180
website.

59:05.460 --> 59:07.960
I've got www, I'm sorry,

59:08.060 --> 59:14.260
not www, blogtk.sf.net,

59:14.340 --> 59:14.960
which is Linux.

59:15.160 --> 59:19.620
It's a GTK blogging client

59:19.620 --> 59:21.180
software updater thingy.

59:22.480 --> 59:24.340
Windows, well, that's what

59:24.340 --> 59:25.040
it is, technically.

59:25.580 --> 59:26.220
Windows has something

59:26.220 --> 59:28.080
called WBlogger, which is

59:28.080 --> 59:31.700
W-B-L-O-G-G-A-R dot com,

59:31.780 --> 59:32.500
not E.

59:33.540 --> 59:35.040
And there's also one for

59:35.040 --> 59:35.440
Mac.

59:35.700 --> 59:37.260
Mac has this, surprisingly,

59:38.180 --> 59:38.980
doesn't have a lot.

59:39.080 --> 59:39.920
I was kind of shocked at

59:39.920 --> 59:40.080
this.

59:40.320 --> 59:42.940
Do you have a dashboard

59:42.940 --> 59:44.300
plug-in if you have, what

59:44.300 --> 59:45.420
is it, 10.4, I think it

59:45.420 --> 59:45.600
was?

59:45.600 --> 59:51.460
And that's paniris, P-A-N-R-I-R-I-S

59:51.460 --> 59:54.160
dot com slash wordpress dash.

59:57.060 --> 59:58.120
Pardon me, I just had

59:58.120 --> 59:58.320
supper.

59:59.560 --> 01:00:02.880
So, what that is, basically

01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:03.900
what happens is you run this

01:00:03.900 --> 01:00:04.820
in your, you know, your

01:00:04.820 --> 01:00:06.520
laptop, your desktop, you

01:00:06.520 --> 01:00:07.440
don't have to log into your

01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:08.420
website and use all their

01:00:08.420 --> 01:00:08.860
interfaces.

01:00:09.740 --> 01:00:12.140
And WBlogger, I found

01:00:12.140 --> 01:00:13.460
that it was very nice.

01:00:13.560 --> 01:00:14.300
I haven't actually used it,

01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:15.460
but I was oogling the

01:00:15.460 --> 01:00:16.360
screenshots today and

01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:17.160
saying, wow, I should

01:00:17.160 --> 01:00:18.000
actually download this and

01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:19.420
use this, and that way I

01:00:19.420 --> 01:00:21.280
won't have to log in and go

01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:21.940
to my website and

01:00:21.940 --> 01:00:22.160
everything.

01:00:22.160 --> 01:00:24.600
One of the things they

01:00:24.600 --> 01:00:25.420
tout is workflow.

01:00:25.660 --> 01:00:26.440
Like, for example, what you

01:00:26.440 --> 01:00:27.940
can do is you can have a

01:00:27.940 --> 01:00:28.700
website with multiple

01:00:28.700 --> 01:00:30.080
people, and certain people

01:00:30.080 --> 01:00:31.340
can't publish directly to

01:00:31.340 --> 01:00:32.220
the website, but they can

01:00:32.220 --> 01:00:33.400
submit articles to you, a

01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:34.120
lot like slash dot.

01:00:35.200 --> 01:00:36.480
And you can choose what

01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:37.260
goes to the website and

01:00:37.260 --> 01:00:39.080
what doesn't, which is a

01:00:39.080 --> 01:00:39.920
very interesting feature.

01:00:40.020 --> 01:00:40.880
Yeah, it's kind of cool.

01:00:41.280 --> 01:00:41.760
I would think it would be

01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:42.580
fun to actually have

01:00:42.580 --> 01:00:44.340
something where we can

01:00:44.340 --> 01:00:44.980
have, like, you know,

01:00:44.980 --> 01:00:45.960
news-related stories.

01:00:46.240 --> 01:00:47.860
If, if, what I was

01:00:47.860 --> 01:00:50.140
thinking is, like, for

01:00:50.140 --> 01:00:51.100
example, we could have,

01:00:51.200 --> 01:00:51.740
like, two or three

01:00:51.740 --> 01:00:52.320
different people.

01:00:52.600 --> 01:00:53.680
If, if, if we didn't

01:00:53.680 --> 01:00:55.880
have the binary revolution

01:00:55.880 --> 01:00:57.400
radio interface already,

01:00:57.400 --> 01:00:58.300
this would be a pretty

01:00:58.300 --> 01:00:59.000
cool thing that we could

01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:00.240
have for a bin rev radio.

01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:01.480
We can post the show

01:01:01.480 --> 01:01:02.400
notes and everything, and

01:01:02.400 --> 01:01:03.620
have someone who can just

01:01:03.620 --> 01:01:04.700
edit the articles and add

01:01:04.700 --> 01:01:06.340
show notes, and it'd be

01:01:06.340 --> 01:01:06.740
pretty cool.

01:01:08.860 --> 01:01:09.900
They have, I don't know

01:01:09.900 --> 01:01:10.320
what you would call,

01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:11.620
various typographical

01:01:11.620 --> 01:01:12.160
niceties.

01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:15.180
The, the engine that they

01:01:15.180 --> 01:01:16.840
use to convert all your

01:01:16.840 --> 01:01:18.800
stuff over to HTML and

01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:21.580
XHTML and CSS, it's,

01:01:21.580 --> 01:01:22.220
it's, it's pretty

01:01:22.220 --> 01:01:23.140
intelligent, and it can

01:01:23.140 --> 01:01:24.260
take, pretty nasty, and

01:01:24.260 --> 01:01:25.220
not make a complete

01:01:25.220 --> 01:01:26.220
butcher job out of it.

01:01:28.040 --> 01:01:29.720
Um, like I said,

01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:30.460
multiple authors.

01:01:30.820 --> 01:01:31.500
What you can do is

01:01:31.500 --> 01:01:32.540
basically, Doug and I,

01:01:32.580 --> 01:01:33.360
if we wanted to, we can

01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:34.160
create our own website.

01:01:34.300 --> 01:01:34.940
We can both create

01:01:34.940 --> 01:01:36.820
articles and edit and

01:01:36.820 --> 01:01:38.500
add, and we won't have

01:01:38.500 --> 01:01:39.240
to worry about intruding

01:01:39.240 --> 01:01:40.080
on each other's website,

01:01:40.160 --> 01:01:40.720
because it'll just all

01:01:40.720 --> 01:01:41.700
update it automatically.

01:01:41.700 --> 01:01:44.680
Um, bookmarklets, which is

01:01:44.680 --> 01:01:45.780
a fancy way of just

01:01:45.780 --> 01:01:46.360
having links.

01:01:47.580 --> 01:01:48.920
It's basically an easy

01:01:48.920 --> 01:01:49.980
way to have, uh,

01:01:50.260 --> 01:01:51.220
controllable blog rolls

01:01:51.220 --> 01:01:51.620
and everything.

01:01:52.980 --> 01:01:54.520
Um, what WordPress does

01:01:54.520 --> 01:01:56.140
is something called

01:01:56.140 --> 01:01:57.520
Ping-O-Matic, which is a,

01:01:57.640 --> 01:01:58.740
one of the first blog

01:01:58.740 --> 01:01:59.440
rolling engines.

01:01:59.660 --> 01:02:00.580
Basically, if you don't

01:02:00.580 --> 01:02:02.020
have all this fancy stuff

01:02:02.020 --> 01:02:02.800
at your fingertips, you

01:02:02.800 --> 01:02:03.620
can just sort of subscribe

01:02:03.620 --> 01:02:05.380
to the service, and it

01:02:05.380 --> 01:02:06.560
will, uh, update it

01:02:06.560 --> 01:02:07.420
automatically for you.

01:02:09.220 --> 01:02:10.920
So, my, my impressions

01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:12.220
is that it was a, it was

01:02:12.220 --> 01:02:13.600
a breezed install and

01:02:13.600 --> 01:02:13.940
set up.

01:02:14.080 --> 01:02:14.920
Basically, I fed it a

01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:16.060
password, and it created

01:02:16.060 --> 01:02:16.880
everything automatically,

01:02:17.100 --> 01:02:17.980
and I think the install

01:02:17.980 --> 01:02:20.180
process from start, from

01:02:20.180 --> 01:02:21.260
me un-tarring the tar

01:02:21.260 --> 01:02:23.900
ball to running the

01:02:23.900 --> 01:02:25.340
software and actually

01:02:25.340 --> 01:02:26.280
making my first post was

01:02:26.280 --> 01:02:27.400
around 15, 20 minutes.

01:02:27.520 --> 01:02:28.260
How long did it take

01:02:28.260 --> 01:02:28.560
you, Doug?

01:02:29.380 --> 01:02:30.260
To set it up?

01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:30.660
Yeah.

01:02:32.080 --> 01:02:33.820
I'd say, yeah, it'd

01:02:33.820 --> 01:02:34.420
probably be around the

01:02:34.420 --> 01:02:35.420
same time, 15, 20

01:02:35.420 --> 01:02:35.760
minutes.

01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:37.140
It's, it really is an

01:02:37.140 --> 01:02:37.880
easy thing to do.

01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:40.120
All you have to do is,

01:02:40.420 --> 01:02:41.660
you pretty much unzip the

01:02:41.660 --> 01:02:43.200
package, you add a

01:02:43.200 --> 01:02:44.680
data space, and then you

01:02:44.680 --> 01:02:46.420
run the install PHP file,

01:02:46.500 --> 01:02:47.160
and it's as easy as

01:02:47.160 --> 01:02:47.300
that.

01:02:47.340 --> 01:02:48.140
It gives you a password,

01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:49.120
you set it, you change

01:02:49.120 --> 01:02:49.580
it, you're done.

01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:51.120
You know, it's, it's,

01:02:51.120 --> 01:02:51.740
Like, if you're not

01:02:51.740 --> 01:02:52.640
doing any kind of custom

01:02:52.640 --> 01:02:53.380
themes or anything, and

01:02:53.380 --> 01:02:54.120
you just want a basic

01:02:54.120 --> 01:02:55.240
blog on your website,

01:02:55.840 --> 01:02:56.760
WordPress is probably the

01:02:56.760 --> 01:02:57.260
way to go.

01:02:57.780 --> 01:02:58.140
Definitely.

01:02:58.300 --> 01:02:59.140
More likely, because

01:02:59.140 --> 01:03:00.300
they're just, it's so,

01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:01.640
it really is easy, and

01:03:01.640 --> 01:03:03.720
I'm a complete noob when

01:03:03.720 --> 01:03:04.700
it comes to any kind of

01:03:04.700 --> 01:03:05.740
database configuration,

01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:06.800
or any kind of Linux

01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:08.180
installation, or any

01:03:08.180 --> 01:03:08.940
kind of that crap.

01:03:09.080 --> 01:03:09.540
You know, when it comes

01:03:09.540 --> 01:03:10.240
to this, it's really

01:03:10.240 --> 01:03:10.540
easy.

01:03:10.600 --> 01:03:11.680
If you know HTML, you

01:03:11.680 --> 01:03:12.140
can do this.

01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:15.380
I personally like the

01:03:15.380 --> 01:03:16.580
UI, the user interface,

01:03:16.620 --> 01:03:16.920
and everything.

01:03:17.060 --> 01:03:18.360
It's very clean, and

01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:19.460
they have a control panel

01:03:19.460 --> 01:03:20.340
that they have, or not

01:03:20.340 --> 01:03:21.200
really control panel, but

01:03:21.200 --> 01:03:22.280
the administrator panel,

01:03:22.420 --> 01:03:23.920
it's real, really easy.

01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:25.960
Yeah, it's pretty sweet.

01:03:26.040 --> 01:03:26.820
I enjoyed it.

01:03:29.340 --> 01:03:30.960
Too many complicated

01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:31.360
themes.

01:03:31.560 --> 01:03:32.380
Like, some of the themes

01:03:32.380 --> 01:03:33.420
they have to download are

01:03:33.420 --> 01:03:33.940
just insane.

01:03:34.340 --> 01:03:35.980
It's a hawk, it's a lot

01:03:35.980 --> 01:03:37.160
easier to download and

01:03:37.160 --> 01:03:37.600
install them.

01:03:37.780 --> 01:03:38.760
Well, let me say it's a

01:03:38.760 --> 01:03:39.080
lot easier.

01:03:39.380 --> 01:03:40.380
It's very easy to download

01:03:40.380 --> 01:03:41.420
and install them, but

01:03:41.420 --> 01:03:43.900
actually, like, the layout,

01:03:44.060 --> 01:03:44.780
looks of some of them,

01:03:44.900 --> 01:03:46.560
it's, people just put

01:03:46.560 --> 01:03:47.280
way too much time and

01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:47.920
effort into this, in my

01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:48.180
opinion.

01:03:49.460 --> 01:03:49.600
Yeah.

01:03:49.940 --> 01:03:51.000
They basically had one

01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:51.780
where it would look like

01:03:51.780 --> 01:03:53.520
an old-style newspaper on

01:03:53.520 --> 01:03:54.580
your web browser, and I

01:03:54.580 --> 01:03:55.260
just looked at that and

01:03:55.260 --> 01:03:56.560
said, ooh, who would want

01:03:56.560 --> 01:03:56.880
that?

01:03:57.560 --> 01:03:58.600
But, sure enough, there

01:03:58.600 --> 01:03:59.640
were, like, five people

01:03:59.640 --> 01:04:00.520
that I saw who were

01:04:00.520 --> 01:04:01.380
linking off the website

01:04:01.380 --> 01:04:02.760
that said, oh, yeah, they

01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:03.700
use this every day.

01:04:03.900 --> 01:04:04.880
And I was just like, you

01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:05.940
sick, sad people, you.

01:04:07.980 --> 01:04:08.340
Yeah.

01:04:10.220 --> 01:04:11.080
Personally, the one

01:04:11.080 --> 01:04:12.180
complaint I had about it

01:04:12.180 --> 01:04:13.780
is they lie.

01:04:14.300 --> 01:04:15.780
It's very hard to add

01:04:15.780 --> 01:04:16.840
non-blog content.

01:04:17.720 --> 01:04:18.620
Unless, of course, you're

01:04:18.620 --> 01:04:19.260
talking about static

01:04:19.260 --> 01:04:19.660
HTML.

01:04:19.900 --> 01:04:21.080
Like, I had all my

01:04:21.080 --> 01:04:23.880
photos there, and I had a

01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:24.940
hell of a lot of time to

01:04:24.940 --> 01:04:27.740
actually update them and

01:04:27.740 --> 01:04:28.380
install them.

01:04:28.980 --> 01:04:29.960
And I still don't think

01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:30.880
they work correctly yet.

01:04:30.980 --> 01:04:32.080
I still need to work on

01:04:32.080 --> 01:04:32.320
that.

01:04:33.500 --> 01:04:34.260
Like, but what I wanted

01:04:34.260 --> 01:04:35.220
to do is I just wanted to

01:04:35.220 --> 01:04:35.960
have something where it

01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:36.780
would pick up a random

01:04:36.780 --> 01:04:37.780
photo and display a

01:04:37.780 --> 01:04:38.600
thumbnail on one of the

01:04:38.600 --> 01:04:38.880
corners.

01:04:39.060 --> 01:04:39.960
And that is just

01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:41.220
apparently way too hard for

01:04:41.220 --> 01:04:41.960
anyone to figure out.

01:04:41.960 --> 01:04:43.800
So I'm willing to have

01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:44.680
to go sit down on the

01:04:44.680 --> 01:04:46.040
WordPress source code and

01:04:46.040 --> 01:04:46.800
go figure this damn

01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:47.680
stuff out and run my

01:04:47.680 --> 01:04:48.380
image magic and

01:04:48.380 --> 01:04:48.640
everything.

01:04:50.080 --> 01:04:50.680
Do you have any

01:04:50.680 --> 01:04:51.460
complaints about it, or

01:04:51.460 --> 01:04:52.480
is it so far so good for

01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:52.640
you?

01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:54.480
So far so good.

01:04:54.640 --> 01:04:55.640
There's not, I haven't

01:04:55.640 --> 01:04:56.780
discovered any real bugs

01:04:56.780 --> 01:04:59.300
or anything, any kind of,

01:04:59.300 --> 01:05:01.580
you know, major exploits or

01:05:01.580 --> 01:05:02.020
anything like that.

01:05:02.060 --> 01:05:02.920
I know that some people

01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:03.900
have gotten shut down with

01:05:03.900 --> 01:05:04.680
WordPress, like older

01:05:04.680 --> 01:05:05.100
versions.

01:05:05.840 --> 01:05:07.060
But usually nine times

01:05:07.060 --> 01:05:08.400
out of the ten, like

01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:09.600
HackerMedia got shut

01:05:09.600 --> 01:05:09.760
down.

01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:11.280
Someone owned HackerMedia

01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:12.580
and they were using

01:05:12.580 --> 01:05:13.920
WordPress, but he never

01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:14.720
updated the version.

01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:15.220
I think that's what

01:05:15.220 --> 01:05:15.620
happened.

01:05:15.860 --> 01:05:16.600
Well, basically you're

01:05:16.600 --> 01:05:17.120
going to run into that

01:05:17.120 --> 01:05:17.880
no matter what software

01:05:17.880 --> 01:05:18.320
you run.

01:05:18.540 --> 01:05:19.080
Something discovered

01:05:19.080 --> 01:05:19.940
is cool and you're

01:05:19.940 --> 01:05:20.180
screwed.

01:05:21.120 --> 01:05:21.860
Yeah, no one wants

01:05:21.860 --> 01:05:22.240
software.

01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:22.780
That's why you've got to

01:05:22.780 --> 01:05:23.440
make sure you keep

01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:24.200
everything updated.

01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:25.240
You check the website

01:05:25.240 --> 01:05:26.160
once a week to make

01:05:26.160 --> 01:05:26.740
sure there's not a new

01:05:26.740 --> 01:05:27.300
version out.

01:05:27.460 --> 01:05:28.380
Well, the really cool

01:05:28.380 --> 01:05:29.100
thing that I liked about

01:05:29.100 --> 01:05:29.560
it is in the

01:05:29.560 --> 01:05:31.160
administrator panel, it

01:05:31.160 --> 01:05:32.200
had it right there

01:05:32.200 --> 01:05:33.860
saying you basically

01:05:33.860 --> 01:05:34.440
looked at their,

01:05:34.600 --> 01:05:36.140
they had like embedded

01:05:36.140 --> 01:05:36.940
their website and they

01:05:36.940 --> 01:05:38.240
had like new version,

01:05:38.240 --> 01:05:39.460
out, you know, two

01:05:39.460 --> 01:05:39.940
weeks ago.

01:05:40.760 --> 01:05:41.720
And so if you ever

01:05:41.720 --> 01:05:42.820
log in directly into

01:05:42.820 --> 01:05:43.760
your WordPress site,

01:05:43.860 --> 01:05:45.020
you'll see, oh, hey,

01:05:45.060 --> 01:05:45.640
there's a new version

01:05:45.640 --> 01:05:45.920
out of it.

01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:46.940
I'll download it.

01:05:48.200 --> 01:05:48.520
Huh.

01:05:49.140 --> 01:05:50.220
You never saw that?

01:05:51.020 --> 01:05:51.880
No, I never did.

01:05:51.940 --> 01:05:52.900
There's a lot of parts

01:05:52.900 --> 01:05:53.740
of it in the newer

01:05:53.740 --> 01:05:54.580
WordPress that I haven't

01:05:54.580 --> 01:05:55.280
even seen yet.

01:05:55.480 --> 01:05:56.420
Well, no, it's like when

01:05:56.420 --> 01:05:57.260
you first log in, you

01:05:57.260 --> 01:05:57.840
go to something called

01:05:57.840 --> 01:05:58.820
like dashboard or

01:05:58.820 --> 01:05:59.160
something.

01:06:00.040 --> 01:06:00.620
At least I have it

01:06:00.620 --> 01:06:00.940
in mind.

01:06:01.040 --> 01:06:01.400
I don't know.

01:06:02.700 --> 01:06:03.540
That's pretty cool.

01:06:03.780 --> 01:06:03.940
Yeah.

01:06:04.820 --> 01:06:06.480
Overall, thumbs up

01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:06.800
from me.

01:06:07.160 --> 01:06:07.980
I enjoyed it.

01:06:09.240 --> 01:06:10.820
It's a very small,

01:06:10.920 --> 01:06:12.300
low-impact system and

01:06:12.300 --> 01:06:13.060
apparently you can go

01:06:13.060 --> 01:06:14.060
pretty complex with it

01:06:14.060 --> 01:06:15.480
and it won't mind.

01:06:17.240 --> 01:06:17.320
So.

01:06:18.600 --> 01:06:19.680
And as always, it's

01:06:19.680 --> 01:06:20.480
free, so it's a lot

01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:21.040
better than WordPress.

01:06:21.340 --> 01:06:21.720
I'm sorry,

01:06:21.860 --> 01:06:22.620
it's a movable type,

01:06:22.680 --> 01:06:23.140
whatever it is.

01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:25.140
WordPress is the

01:06:25.140 --> 01:06:25.980
shizzle in the story.

01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:26.640
Indeed.

01:06:28.380 --> 01:06:29.760
So we have no

01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:30.160
announcements.

01:06:30.340 --> 01:06:31.380
No one sent that in.

01:06:31.460 --> 01:06:32.520
I guess we can start

01:06:32.520 --> 01:06:32.840
plugging.

01:06:33.320 --> 01:06:34.320
A week after next is

01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:35.660
your local 2600 meeting,

01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:36.520
wherever that may be.

01:06:36.520 --> 01:06:38.740
Do you go to your 2600

01:06:38.740 --> 01:06:38.980
meeting?

01:06:39.240 --> 01:06:40.680
Is GWASTI 2600 still

01:06:40.680 --> 01:06:40.940
active?

01:06:41.900 --> 01:06:43.200
No, GWASTI 2600 I don't

01:06:43.200 --> 01:06:43.980
think was ever active.

01:06:44.080 --> 01:06:44.720
I think maybe it was

01:06:44.720 --> 01:06:45.680
active once and that was

01:06:45.680 --> 01:06:46.700
just me lucky in accident.

01:06:47.060 --> 01:06:47.780
That was about it.

01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:49.260
But it wasn't really a

01:06:49.260 --> 01:06:49.960
2600 meeting.

01:06:50.060 --> 01:06:50.760
It was mostly let's just go

01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:51.560
to Denny's and eat some

01:06:51.560 --> 01:06:52.640
samplers and what was that?

01:06:53.780 --> 01:06:54.360
Oh, isn't that what it

01:06:54.360 --> 01:06:54.600
all?

01:06:54.720 --> 01:06:55.860
I think that's where 2600 is

01:06:55.860 --> 01:06:56.100
anyway.

01:06:56.240 --> 01:06:57.000
Basically, you get there,

01:06:57.080 --> 01:06:57.900
you eat food, and that's

01:06:57.900 --> 01:06:58.280
about it.

01:06:59.300 --> 01:07:00.400
And it's always at Denny's

01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:01.020
for some reason.

01:07:01.560 --> 01:07:02.180
Well, I don't know.

01:07:02.180 --> 01:07:03.400
It could be a Southern

01:07:03.400 --> 01:07:04.220
California thing.

01:07:04.420 --> 01:07:05.580
For us, it's usually the

01:07:05.580 --> 01:07:06.840
most potential food.

01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:08.060
Well, you guys have real

01:07:08.060 --> 01:07:08.480
diners.

01:07:08.560 --> 01:07:09.380
That's the difference in

01:07:09.380 --> 01:07:10.100
Southern California.

01:07:10.240 --> 01:07:11.780
We don't have real food in

01:07:11.780 --> 01:07:12.320
Southern California.

01:07:12.720 --> 01:07:13.840
I have to say, after being

01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:14.960
in New York for a weekend,

01:07:15.640 --> 01:07:16.300
and it's been a while

01:07:16.300 --> 01:07:16.780
since I've been in New

01:07:16.780 --> 01:07:19.020
York, but being able to be

01:07:19.020 --> 01:07:20.120
there for a longer time to

01:07:20.120 --> 01:07:21.020
experience the food,

01:07:21.120 --> 01:07:22.220
everything in Jersey and

01:07:22.220 --> 01:07:23.840
New York, I have to say

01:07:23.840 --> 01:07:25.180
that California really sucks.

01:07:26.940 --> 01:07:27.620
That's the only thing I

01:07:27.620 --> 01:07:28.300
like about California.

01:07:28.300 --> 01:07:28.920
I think they're going,

01:07:29.060 --> 01:07:29.360
no!

01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:31.560
Well, yeah, Nattis will

01:07:31.560 --> 01:07:32.680
disagree with me a hundred

01:07:32.680 --> 01:07:33.680
times, because Nattis is all

01:07:33.680 --> 01:07:34.320
about California.

01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:35.820
He thinks California is way

01:07:35.820 --> 01:07:36.600
better than New York, and

01:07:36.600 --> 01:07:37.780
he thinks New Jersey is a

01:07:37.780 --> 01:07:38.040
shithole.

01:07:38.420 --> 01:07:39.320
There's a lot of places in

01:07:39.320 --> 01:07:40.360
New Jersey that is a

01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:41.040
shithole, don't get me

01:07:41.040 --> 01:07:41.360
wrong.

01:07:42.380 --> 01:07:43.440
Dude, I watch some

01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:43.740
photos.

01:07:43.900 --> 01:07:44.620
I know how New Jersey

01:07:44.620 --> 01:07:45.000
works.

01:07:45.900 --> 01:07:47.860
Yeah, I mean, as far as

01:07:47.860 --> 01:07:49.360
Jersey City goes, and

01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:49.900
there's a lot of other

01:07:49.900 --> 01:07:50.640
towns out there that I've

01:07:50.640 --> 01:07:51.900
heard of, Madison, things

01:07:51.900 --> 01:07:54.720
like that, the East does

01:07:54.720 --> 01:07:55.700
kick California's ass

01:07:55.700 --> 01:07:56.140
big time.

01:07:56.220 --> 01:07:56.840
The only thing about

01:07:56.840 --> 01:07:57.720
California that I

01:07:57.720 --> 01:07:59.360
truly do like is the

01:07:59.360 --> 01:07:59.560
weather.

01:08:00.240 --> 01:08:00.720
That's it.

01:08:02.260 --> 01:08:03.060
Because you're a pussy

01:08:03.060 --> 01:08:04.000
and you don't like snow.

01:08:04.940 --> 01:08:07.020
Yeah, well, snow sucks.

01:08:07.560 --> 01:08:08.540
I don't want a shovel!

01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:10.820
Yeah, screw that shit,

01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:11.060
man.

01:08:11.100 --> 01:08:11.980
In California, you walk

01:08:11.980 --> 01:08:12.660
out any time of the day

01:08:12.660 --> 01:08:13.400
you want without having to

01:08:13.400 --> 01:08:14.120
worry about dying.

01:08:16.160 --> 01:08:17.240
The thing we get out

01:08:17.240 --> 01:08:17.640
here is...

01:08:17.640 --> 01:08:19.700
Dude, go walk into

01:08:19.700 --> 01:08:20.660
Compton and say that.

01:08:20.700 --> 01:08:21.200
How about that?

01:08:22.240 --> 01:08:23.260
The thing we have in

01:08:23.260 --> 01:08:24.920
California is, at worst,

01:08:24.920 --> 01:08:26.720
is just, what, heavy rain.

01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:27.320
That's about it.

01:08:27.720 --> 01:08:29.020
Heavy rains, mudslides,

01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:29.940
earthquakes.

01:08:31.220 --> 01:08:32.500
Mudslides in ghetto areas

01:08:32.500 --> 01:08:33.500
like San Bernardino,

01:08:33.640 --> 01:08:34.080
that's it.

01:08:34.140 --> 01:08:34.940
Ask Strom about that.

01:08:34.980 --> 01:08:35.780
Even he will tell you

01:08:35.780 --> 01:08:37.680
that parts of California

01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:38.480
like that, you know,

01:08:38.480 --> 01:08:39.140
it's the only place you're

01:08:39.140 --> 01:08:39.940
going to get mudslides.

01:08:40.660 --> 01:08:41.060
Earthquakes?

01:08:42.940 --> 01:08:45.100
Earthquakes happen very,

01:08:45.180 --> 01:08:46.080
very rarely.

01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:49.400
Compton.

01:08:50.060 --> 01:08:51.100
You guys get Compton out

01:08:51.100 --> 01:08:51.280
there.

01:08:51.780 --> 01:08:52.800
I play San Andreas.

01:08:52.800 --> 01:08:53.820
I know how the ghetto

01:08:53.820 --> 01:08:54.300
works.

01:08:55.100 --> 01:08:55.460
Yeah.

01:08:55.920 --> 01:08:56.940
You learn shit from

01:08:56.940 --> 01:08:58.140
fucking The Sopranos

01:08:58.140 --> 01:08:59.160
and Grand Theft Auto.

01:08:59.300 --> 01:09:00.600
Man, that's how it is.

01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:01.800
They're all documentaries.

01:09:03.060 --> 01:09:03.960
All I have to say

01:09:03.960 --> 01:09:06.160
is food-wise, though,

01:09:06.300 --> 01:09:07.840
I don't eat that much

01:09:07.840 --> 01:09:08.800
because, as you know,

01:09:08.840 --> 01:09:09.380
I'm very skinny,

01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:10.360
but if I were to live

01:09:10.360 --> 01:09:10.920
in back east,

01:09:10.980 --> 01:09:11.540
that would change.

01:09:12.380 --> 01:09:13.440
That would change big time.

01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:14.180
Everything out there

01:09:14.180 --> 01:09:14.520
is good,

01:09:14.580 --> 01:09:15.280
and a lot of it is

01:09:15.280 --> 01:09:16.260
just because of the bread.

01:09:16.260 --> 01:09:17.280
The breading out there

01:09:17.280 --> 01:09:18.580
is unbelievable.

01:09:18.780 --> 01:09:19.740
I can't believe food

01:09:19.740 --> 01:09:20.460
would ever taste it

01:09:20.460 --> 01:09:20.800
that good.

01:09:20.940 --> 01:09:21.500
No wonder...

01:09:21.500 --> 01:09:22.180
The breading.

01:09:23.280 --> 01:09:23.960
The bread.

01:09:24.220 --> 01:09:24.720
Bread out there

01:09:24.720 --> 01:09:25.460
is so much fresher

01:09:25.460 --> 01:09:26.240
than it is out here.

01:09:26.400 --> 01:09:26.740
Really?

01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:28.080
Everything.

01:09:28.440 --> 01:09:29.600
Are Californians

01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:30.580
unable to bake bread?

01:09:31.320 --> 01:09:32.120
I don't know.

01:09:32.300 --> 01:09:33.080
I thought bread

01:09:33.080 --> 01:09:33.800
was always bread,

01:09:33.900 --> 01:09:34.880
blah, bread, you know?

01:09:35.120 --> 01:09:36.100
But fucking out there,

01:09:36.320 --> 01:09:37.840
I ordered from Pizza Hut,

01:09:37.940 --> 01:09:38.560
and Pizza Hut,

01:09:38.620 --> 01:09:39.460
they made it the same

01:09:39.460 --> 01:09:40.420
way they do out here,

01:09:40.720 --> 01:09:41.440
but the bread

01:09:41.440 --> 01:09:42.040
tastes better.

01:09:43.060 --> 01:09:43.760
Like, the breading

01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:44.700
of the pizza tastes better.

01:09:44.700 --> 01:09:45.560
Everything out there

01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:46.060
tastes better.

01:09:46.260 --> 01:09:46.720
Of course,

01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:47.760
New York has got

01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:48.440
the best everything

01:09:48.440 --> 01:09:49.020
food-wise,

01:09:49.120 --> 01:09:49.700
the best pizza

01:09:49.700 --> 01:09:50.040
and everything,

01:09:50.120 --> 01:09:51.080
but even from Pizza Hut,

01:09:51.660 --> 01:09:51.900
you know,

01:09:51.960 --> 01:09:52.320
just a normal pizza joint.

01:09:52.320 --> 01:09:53.900
Chicago kicks New York's ass

01:09:53.900 --> 01:09:54.700
in the pizza department.

01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:55.160
I'm sorry.

01:09:56.300 --> 01:09:56.580
All right.

01:09:56.580 --> 01:09:57.140
Well, I don't know.

01:09:57.220 --> 01:09:58.000
I have to say that

01:09:58.000 --> 01:09:58.660
New York has some

01:09:58.660 --> 01:10:00.060
pretty damn good pizza.

01:10:00.380 --> 01:10:01.360
They have good pizza,

01:10:01.460 --> 01:10:02.540
but I'm a much bigger fan

01:10:02.540 --> 01:10:03.460
of deep dish myself.

01:10:04.540 --> 01:10:04.780
All right.

01:10:04.780 --> 01:10:05.600
Well, I will have to

01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:06.300
come down to Chicago

01:10:06.300 --> 01:10:07.380
sometime and try it out,

01:10:07.440 --> 01:10:08.320
but I have to say that

01:10:08.320 --> 01:10:08.920
back east,

01:10:09.040 --> 01:10:09.800
I can now see

01:10:09.800 --> 01:10:10.840
what people are talking about.

01:10:10.900 --> 01:10:11.280
I'm not going to say

01:10:11.280 --> 01:10:11.720
that they're crazy.

01:10:11.780 --> 01:10:12.520
I used to always be like,

01:10:12.860 --> 01:10:13.920
California for life,

01:10:13.980 --> 01:10:14.560
it's California,

01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:16.260
but New York probably

01:10:16.260 --> 01:10:19.380
is maybe not the best.

01:10:19.460 --> 01:10:20.300
I won't go that far.

01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:23.260
But it is a damn good city.

01:10:23.280 --> 01:10:23.960
Yeah, because we all know

01:10:23.960 --> 01:10:24.980
Boston is the best.

01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:27.300
Well, I don't know about that,

01:10:27.400 --> 01:10:29.040
but I have to say that

01:10:29.040 --> 01:10:30.060
people like Natis

01:10:30.060 --> 01:10:30.960
disagree with this too

01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:31.920
because he lived

01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:32.720
in New York for a while,

01:10:33.300 --> 01:10:34.500
but I got a better vibe

01:10:34.500 --> 01:10:35.380
from people in New York.

01:10:35.500 --> 01:10:36.100
People seem to be,

01:10:36.220 --> 01:10:36.460
I don't know,

01:10:36.500 --> 01:10:37.100
I guess 9-11

01:10:37.100 --> 01:10:38.540
really did change a lot,

01:10:38.660 --> 01:10:39.580
but everyone out there

01:10:39.580 --> 01:10:40.220
was respectful.

01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:41.420
The bums,

01:10:41.560 --> 01:10:41.840
everyone,

01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:42.480
everyone I was trying

01:10:42.480 --> 01:10:42.980
to solicit,

01:10:43.100 --> 01:10:43.320
you know,

01:10:43.380 --> 01:10:43.940
you should try

01:10:43.940 --> 01:10:44.780
and sell shit to you.

01:10:45.140 --> 01:10:46.060
Everyone was just nicer

01:10:46.060 --> 01:10:47.220
than they are in Los Angeles.

01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:49.420
So, I don't know,

01:10:49.480 --> 01:10:50.020
maybe it's just me.

01:10:50.080 --> 01:10:50.920
I just noticed that

01:10:50.920 --> 01:10:52.860
it was more friendly

01:10:52.860 --> 01:10:53.440
out in New York,

01:10:53.700 --> 01:10:54.100
which is,

01:10:54.280 --> 01:10:54.500
you know,

01:10:54.520 --> 01:10:55.440
it didn't used to be like that,

01:10:55.460 --> 01:10:56.060
but now it is.

01:10:57.980 --> 01:10:59.060
Well, we now have a review

01:10:59.060 --> 01:10:59.560
of New York

01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:00.380
on MinRev Radio

01:11:00.380 --> 01:11:01.940
from our friend Doug.

01:11:02.340 --> 01:11:03.580
That's totally off topic,

01:11:03.660 --> 01:11:04.040
but you know what,

01:11:04.040 --> 01:11:05.080
I don't have my own radio show,

01:11:05.200 --> 01:11:06.360
so I have to rant somewhere.

01:11:06.660 --> 01:11:06.920
Yeah.

01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:08.200
Anyway,

01:11:08.320 --> 01:11:09.320
do you have any announcements

01:11:09.320 --> 01:11:09.940
you want to make?

01:11:09.940 --> 01:11:12.840
Listen to Geek Love Radio

01:11:12.840 --> 01:11:13.320
next week

01:11:13.320 --> 01:11:14.000
because I'll be on it.

01:11:14.500 --> 01:11:15.020
Oh, sweet.

01:11:15.200 --> 01:11:16.000
I will be sure to.

01:11:16.160 --> 01:11:16.680
You should post that

01:11:16.680 --> 01:11:17.260
on your blog.

01:11:18.120 --> 01:11:18.280
Yeah,

01:11:18.380 --> 01:11:19.060
I will post that

01:11:19.060 --> 01:11:19.580
on my,

01:11:20.260 --> 01:11:21.380
what did you call it,

01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:21.620
what did you call it earlier,

01:11:21.780 --> 01:11:23.160
your internet journal.

01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:24.200
Internet journal,

01:11:24.360 --> 01:11:25.100
that's what it is,

01:11:25.180 --> 01:11:25.420
really.

01:11:25.820 --> 01:11:26.500
My internet journal.

01:11:26.540 --> 01:11:27.740
Have you read most of these?

01:11:27.840 --> 01:11:28.600
It's like people saying,

01:11:28.720 --> 01:11:28.960
oh,

01:11:29.080 --> 01:11:30.260
I ate soup today.

01:11:30.360 --> 01:11:31.340
It wasn't that good.

01:11:32.340 --> 01:11:33.920
I am sitting in Starbucks

01:11:33.920 --> 01:11:34.860
on my power book

01:11:34.860 --> 01:11:35.700
talking away

01:11:35.700 --> 01:11:37.340
and I'm just admiring

01:11:37.340 --> 01:11:38.300
the people on the street

01:11:38.300 --> 01:11:39.140
and I'm gul

01:11:39.140 --> 01:11:40.520
because I have a power book

01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:41.100
and they do not.

01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:43.160
I will use the internet journal

01:11:43.160 --> 01:11:43.860
on my website

01:11:43.860 --> 01:11:45.580
to post certain rants

01:11:45.580 --> 01:11:46.480
or opinions,

01:11:46.620 --> 01:11:47.480
but I'm not going to post

01:11:47.480 --> 01:11:47.760
about,

01:11:47.900 --> 01:11:48.500
oh my God,

01:11:48.620 --> 01:11:50.460
my friend is such a dick,

01:11:50.520 --> 01:11:51.920
he totally stole my car

01:11:51.920 --> 01:11:52.440
and fucking,

01:11:53.220 --> 01:11:55.680
my sister overdosed

01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:56.860
on drugs and heroin,

01:11:57.100 --> 01:11:57.660
I'm fucked,

01:11:58.000 --> 01:11:58.900
I have no money.

01:11:59.780 --> 01:12:00.660
I'm not going to post

01:12:00.660 --> 01:12:02.260
like a 14-year-old teenage girl.

01:12:02.580 --> 01:12:02.720
You know,

01:12:02.760 --> 01:12:03.280
you've got to post,

01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:04.940
it's about things

01:12:04.940 --> 01:12:06.280
that you discover

01:12:06.280 --> 01:12:06.960
that are interesting,

01:12:07.200 --> 01:12:07.320
you know,

01:12:07.320 --> 01:12:07.720
like you do

01:12:07.720 --> 01:12:09.280
on your internet journal.

01:12:10.460 --> 01:12:11.460
Anything that's big going,

01:12:11.520 --> 01:12:12.040
any project

01:12:12.040 --> 01:12:12.960
that you're working on,

01:12:13.060 --> 01:12:13.460
any project

01:12:13.460 --> 01:12:14.360
that I help working on,

01:12:14.400 --> 01:12:15.100
it's that kind of thing.

01:12:15.200 --> 01:12:15.640
Yeah, yeah.

01:12:15.660 --> 01:12:16.460
Not to post about

01:12:16.460 --> 01:12:17.560
every day of my life,

01:12:17.620 --> 01:12:18.500
about every single detail,

01:12:18.580 --> 01:12:19.240
that's just absurd.

01:12:19.480 --> 01:12:19.660
Yeah,

01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:20.960
I know like certain people

01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:21.660
that post like,

01:12:21.720 --> 01:12:21.880
you know,

01:12:21.940 --> 01:12:23.900
at least every day,

01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:26.000
like two or three times a day

01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:26.500
and they just,

01:12:26.740 --> 01:12:26.940
it's,

01:12:27.100 --> 01:12:28.040
there's no content

01:12:28.040 --> 01:12:29.120
and you just go,

01:12:29.340 --> 01:12:30.260
why are you posting?

01:12:30.440 --> 01:12:31.040
What's the point?

01:12:32.780 --> 01:12:33.460
Live journal.

01:12:33.740 --> 01:12:33.860
Oh,

01:12:33.960 --> 01:12:34.300
MySpace.

01:12:35.860 --> 01:12:36.220
Yeah,

01:12:36.340 --> 01:12:37.340
that's another damn thing,

01:12:37.420 --> 01:12:37.700
MySpace.

01:12:37.940 --> 01:12:38.880
Everyone and their mother,

01:12:39.100 --> 01:12:39.600
literally,

01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:40.460
their mother,

01:12:41.040 --> 01:12:41.700
has a MySpace.

01:12:42.380 --> 01:12:43.340
I was going on MySpace.

01:12:44.020 --> 01:12:44.780
I used to have a MySpace

01:12:44.780 --> 01:12:45.160
for a while

01:12:45.160 --> 01:12:45.800
and then I deleted it

01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:46.700
because I just got tired of it

01:12:46.700 --> 01:12:48.100
but then someone suckered me

01:12:48.100 --> 01:12:49.080
into getting one again

01:12:49.080 --> 01:12:49.720
and sure as shit,

01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:50.420
when I got one,

01:12:50.780 --> 01:12:51.780
I modified it.

01:12:52.400 --> 01:12:52.540
You know,

01:12:52.620 --> 01:12:53.460
I fucking,

01:12:53.860 --> 01:12:55.080
I changed all the,

01:12:55.120 --> 01:12:55.880
the bands,

01:12:55.980 --> 01:12:56.900
the movies that I'm interested in.

01:12:56.900 --> 01:12:57.560
I made it look good

01:12:57.560 --> 01:12:58.360
because I don't want my shit

01:12:58.360 --> 01:12:59.020
to look default

01:12:59.020 --> 01:12:59.740
for some reason.

01:12:59.820 --> 01:13:00.260
That's just me.

01:13:00.460 --> 01:13:01.300
I have this thing about

01:13:01.300 --> 01:13:02.200
not looking,

01:13:02.200 --> 01:13:04.200
not looking default.

01:13:04.380 --> 01:13:05.220
If you have a MySpace

01:13:05.220 --> 01:13:06.220
that's on default,

01:13:06.600 --> 01:13:07.180
you're a noob.

01:13:07.720 --> 01:13:08.360
But anyways,

01:13:09.200 --> 01:13:09.480
fucking,

01:13:09.580 --> 01:13:10.240
I got into it

01:13:10.240 --> 01:13:11.120
and then I started searching

01:13:11.120 --> 01:13:11.660
for people

01:13:11.660 --> 01:13:12.120
because I was like,

01:13:12.160 --> 01:13:12.560
what the hell?

01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:12.800
You know,

01:13:12.860 --> 01:13:13.980
I wonder if these people have it.

01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:14.660
I started going through

01:13:14.660 --> 01:13:16.580
friends in elementary school

01:13:16.580 --> 01:13:17.600
and I typed their real name

01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:18.180
and sure as shit,

01:13:18.260 --> 01:13:19.200
they had a MySpace too.

01:13:19.640 --> 01:13:20.540
And that's the cool thing

01:13:20.540 --> 01:13:21.380
about it was being able

01:13:21.380 --> 01:13:22.080
to keep in contact

01:13:22.080 --> 01:13:22.920
with people I haven't talked

01:13:22.920 --> 01:13:23.640
to in years.

01:13:23.640 --> 01:13:25.240
And then I found out

01:13:25.240 --> 01:13:26.360
that even my family members,

01:13:26.500 --> 01:13:26.600
people,

01:13:26.700 --> 01:13:27.540
family I don't even talk to

01:13:27.540 --> 01:13:28.200
that had MySpace

01:13:28.200 --> 01:13:29.400
and it kind of freaked me out

01:13:29.400 --> 01:13:31.380
because a lot of it too is,

01:13:32.160 --> 01:13:33.320
I found some old friends,

01:13:33.380 --> 01:13:34.000
like this one girl

01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:34.680
I used to talk to

01:13:34.680 --> 01:13:36.000
when I was in fourth grade

01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:38.040
and she was a really cool girl.

01:13:38.120 --> 01:13:38.720
She was one of those,

01:13:38.760 --> 01:13:38.900
you know,

01:13:38.940 --> 01:13:39.880
good girls in school,

01:13:39.960 --> 01:13:40.540
got straight A's.

01:13:40.580 --> 01:13:41.020
She was one of those

01:13:41.020 --> 01:13:41.720
smart asses,

01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:41.920
you know,

01:13:41.940 --> 01:13:42.300
kind of girls

01:13:42.300 --> 01:13:43.140
and she was really smart

01:13:43.140 --> 01:13:43.540
and nice.

01:13:44.180 --> 01:13:44.640
Sure as shit,

01:13:44.700 --> 01:13:45.500
I pop in her name

01:13:45.500 --> 01:13:46.260
and I see her in MySpace,

01:13:46.400 --> 01:13:46.740
she's gotten,

01:13:46.840 --> 01:13:47.000
you know,

01:13:47.040 --> 01:13:48.040
she's more developed now,

01:13:48.120 --> 01:13:48.880
she's fucking hot.

01:13:48.880 --> 01:13:52.400
But the problem is,

01:13:53.280 --> 01:13:54.780
not that there's anything

01:13:54.780 --> 01:13:55.480
really wrong with this,

01:13:55.580 --> 01:13:56.920
but every sentence

01:13:56.920 --> 01:13:57.700
that she typed

01:13:57.700 --> 01:13:58.820
was every other letter

01:13:58.820 --> 01:13:59.660
was capitalized

01:13:59.660 --> 01:14:00.280
in lowercase,

01:14:00.460 --> 01:14:01.760
everything that she was asked

01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:02.480
with was a Z

01:14:02.480 --> 01:14:04.020
and her class

01:14:04.020 --> 01:14:05.920
was totally different.

01:14:06.780 --> 01:14:07.580
The kind of guys

01:14:07.580 --> 01:14:08.420
that she talked to,

01:14:08.500 --> 01:14:08.960
everyone knows

01:14:08.960 --> 01:14:09.780
what I'm talking about.

01:14:10.140 --> 01:14:11.000
It was just horrible

01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:11.840
to see some like

01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:12.960
of your cool friends

01:14:12.960 --> 01:14:13.840
from elementary school,

01:14:13.900 --> 01:14:14.700
these nice people,

01:14:15.480 --> 01:14:16.600
turn into this kind

01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:17.140
of character.

01:14:17.140 --> 01:14:18.260
And I was like,

01:14:18.340 --> 01:14:18.540
well,

01:14:18.820 --> 01:14:19.600
I was thinking about

01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:20.460
adding her as a friend

01:14:20.460 --> 01:14:21.020
and sending her message

01:14:21.020 --> 01:14:21.280
and saying,

01:14:21.360 --> 01:14:21.460
hey,

01:14:21.480 --> 01:14:21.940
I found you,

01:14:22.060 --> 01:14:22.960
but I think it's best

01:14:22.960 --> 01:14:23.760
that I just don't speak

01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:24.420
to this person

01:14:24.420 --> 01:14:25.220
because I'm kind of afraid

01:14:25.220 --> 01:14:26.700
to find out their history

01:14:26.700 --> 01:14:27.220
and what they've been

01:14:27.220 --> 01:14:27.820
going through.

01:14:28.480 --> 01:14:29.340
Oh my God.

01:14:29.960 --> 01:14:30.360
Because like,

01:14:30.380 --> 01:14:30.840
I couldn't be able

01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:31.460
to speak to them.

01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:31.980
They would just start

01:14:31.980 --> 01:14:32.560
talking to me

01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:33.780
in a completely different way

01:14:33.780 --> 01:14:34.100
and it's just,

01:14:34.160 --> 01:14:35.140
it's not the same person.

01:14:35.360 --> 01:14:36.420
It's just horrible.

01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:37.820
And then I find out

01:14:37.820 --> 01:14:38.700
some other friends

01:14:38.700 --> 01:14:39.860
that were going on

01:14:39.860 --> 01:14:41.000
that these girls' mothers

01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:41.860
now have MySpace.

01:14:42.820 --> 01:14:43.180
Oh,

01:14:43.280 --> 01:14:44.260
that's just wrong.

01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:45.620
And it was horrible

01:14:45.620 --> 01:14:46.400
because these girls,

01:14:46.520 --> 01:14:47.120
like their boyfriend

01:14:47.120 --> 01:14:47.660
and stuff,

01:14:47.740 --> 01:14:48.380
I guess the mom

01:14:48.380 --> 01:14:49.420
was posting comments

01:14:49.420 --> 01:14:51.120
on their MySpaces,

01:14:51.240 --> 01:14:51.360
like,

01:14:51.400 --> 01:14:51.760
I don't want you

01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:52.560
talking to my daughter

01:14:52.560 --> 01:14:53.100
like this.

01:14:53.160 --> 01:14:54.800
And it's just really horrible

01:14:54.800 --> 01:14:56.820
how much this Tom guy

01:14:56.820 --> 01:14:58.080
that invented this,

01:14:58.460 --> 01:14:59.900
how big it has gotten.

01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:01.200
Tom,

01:15:01.320 --> 01:15:02.260
you're a curse

01:15:02.260 --> 01:15:02.900
to all mankind.

01:15:04.120 --> 01:15:05.140
But there was one guy

01:15:05.140 --> 01:15:06.400
that sent me a link

01:15:06.400 --> 01:15:08.000
that looked exactly identical.

01:15:08.140 --> 01:15:08.860
Someone cloned

01:15:08.860 --> 01:15:10.000
the MySpace design,

01:15:10.680 --> 01:15:11.960
but it was kind of a,

01:15:12.040 --> 01:15:13.980
somewhat of an anti-MySpace site,

01:15:14.120 --> 01:15:14.720
even though it was,

01:15:15.620 --> 01:15:17.040
it had the exact same,

01:15:17.120 --> 01:15:17.640
engine of it.

01:15:17.660 --> 01:15:18.620
It was like open source,

01:15:18.700 --> 01:15:18.880
though.

01:15:19.940 --> 01:15:21.380
And it was like,

01:15:21.440 --> 01:15:22.160
over here,

01:15:22.240 --> 01:15:23.020
we're not like Tom

01:15:23.020 --> 01:15:23.980
trying to steal your money.

01:15:24.040 --> 01:15:24.340
It was like,

01:15:24.420 --> 01:15:25.620
exactly just like MySpace,

01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:26.620
but it didn't have ads.

01:15:27.340 --> 01:15:28.180
So I think some guys

01:15:28.180 --> 01:15:28.860
trying to compete,

01:15:29.040 --> 01:15:30.080
some guys trying to compete,

01:15:30.120 --> 01:15:30.760
I wish I could remember

01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:31.220
the website,

01:15:31.420 --> 01:15:31.880
but I don't.

01:15:32.200 --> 01:15:33.360
But some guys trying to compete

01:15:33.360 --> 01:15:34.000
with MySpace.

01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:35.280
You should post that

01:15:35.280 --> 01:15:36.080
on your internet journal.

01:15:37.140 --> 01:15:38.260
I'll post it on my blog.

01:15:38.440 --> 01:15:39.260
I'll write about my blog.

01:15:39.260 --> 01:15:41.420
Right after you complain

01:15:41.420 --> 01:15:42.000
about your soup.

01:15:42.940 --> 01:15:43.880
Before I go to bed

01:15:43.880 --> 01:15:45.280
and when I have my ice cream,

01:15:45.480 --> 01:15:46.420
I'll write about my blog

01:15:46.420 --> 01:15:47.760
so everyone can read it.

01:15:49.180 --> 01:15:49.340
Yeah,

01:15:49.420 --> 01:15:49.880
MySpace,

01:15:50.080 --> 01:15:51.500
it's disgusting.

01:15:51.760 --> 01:15:52.120
It's fucking,

01:15:52.260 --> 01:15:53.300
everyone has it.

01:15:53.740 --> 01:15:54.900
So if you have one too,

01:15:54.980 --> 01:15:55.620
go ahead and feel free

01:15:55.620 --> 01:15:56.060
to add me.

01:15:57.060 --> 01:15:57.820
I gotta say though,

01:15:57.920 --> 01:15:59.280
MySpace is funny.

01:16:00.220 --> 01:16:01.240
Just reading all these

01:16:01.240 --> 01:16:02.120
random people out there

01:16:02.120 --> 01:16:03.200
and just looking at them

01:16:03.200 --> 01:16:04.140
and you can feel

01:16:04.140 --> 01:16:05.040
a lot better about yourself.

01:16:05.040 --> 01:16:05.800
And I'm sure people

01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:07.200
like if I had one

01:16:07.200 --> 01:16:08.260
or they visit my website

01:16:08.260 --> 01:16:09.340
and they say,

01:16:09.420 --> 01:16:10.080
they feel much better

01:16:10.080 --> 01:16:10.620
about themselves

01:16:10.620 --> 01:16:11.320
when they look at me.

01:16:11.480 --> 01:16:11.940
But you know,

01:16:12.180 --> 01:16:13.460
that's what the internet is.

01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:14.740
It just makes the world go round.

01:16:15.700 --> 01:16:17.060
A lot of it is just sad though

01:16:17.060 --> 01:16:18.360
because one of the reasons

01:16:18.360 --> 01:16:19.020
I got it too

01:16:19.020 --> 01:16:19.980
was a lot of my friends

01:16:19.980 --> 01:16:21.020
from high school and shit,

01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:22.480
it seems that this is

01:16:22.480 --> 01:16:23.400
the only way they think

01:16:23.400 --> 01:16:24.140
they can communicate.

01:16:24.360 --> 01:16:24.900
There's this thing

01:16:24.900 --> 01:16:25.660
called email.

01:16:26.240 --> 01:16:26.860
There's this thing

01:16:26.860 --> 01:16:27.900
called instant message.

01:16:28.040 --> 01:16:28.340
There's this thing

01:16:28.340 --> 01:16:29.120
called picking up

01:16:29.120 --> 01:16:29.900
a fucking phone

01:16:29.900 --> 01:16:30.860
and calling somebody.

01:16:31.360 --> 01:16:31.940
And it seems that

01:16:31.940 --> 01:16:32.600
the only way

01:16:32.600 --> 01:16:34.460
that they can keep in contact

01:16:34.460 --> 01:16:35.840
is through MySpace.

01:16:37.980 --> 01:16:38.420
It's like,

01:16:38.440 --> 01:16:39.220
do you have an email address?

01:16:39.320 --> 01:16:39.880
No, I don't.

01:16:39.960 --> 01:16:40.140
Well,

01:16:40.340 --> 01:16:41.340
didn't you have an email address

01:16:41.340 --> 01:16:42.580
to register this

01:16:42.580 --> 01:16:43.300
MySpace account?

01:16:43.400 --> 01:16:43.720
And it was like,

01:16:43.780 --> 01:16:43.980
no,

01:16:44.120 --> 01:16:45.680
I only got a Yahoo account

01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:46.540
so I could set this up

01:16:46.540 --> 01:16:47.280
in the first place.

01:16:47.420 --> 01:16:48.320
No, I don't check it.

01:16:48.340 --> 01:16:48.500
Like,

01:16:48.580 --> 01:16:51.160
why would you want to email me

01:16:51.160 --> 01:16:51.660
when you can just

01:16:51.660 --> 01:16:52.580
send me a message right here

01:16:52.580 --> 01:16:53.560
where everyone I can talk to

01:16:53.560 --> 01:16:54.820
is in the same group?

01:16:55.240 --> 01:16:55.620
And it's just,

01:16:55.840 --> 01:16:56.740
it's horrible.

01:16:57.020 --> 01:16:57.900
Because it's lame.

01:16:58.780 --> 01:16:59.020
Anyway.

01:16:59.280 --> 01:17:01.400
People are such noobs.

01:17:02.100 --> 01:17:02.420
But yeah,

01:17:02.480 --> 01:17:02.760
anyways,

01:17:02.840 --> 01:17:03.920
back to the original thing.

01:17:03.920 --> 01:17:06.420
As George Carlin always says,

01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:08.800
nail two pieces of shit together

01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:09.540
that have never been

01:17:09.540 --> 01:17:10.440
nailed together before

01:17:10.440 --> 01:17:11.740
and some asshole will buy it.

01:17:13.920 --> 01:17:15.300
I believe that was George Carlin.

01:17:15.440 --> 01:17:16.240
Correct me if I'm wrong.

01:17:18.820 --> 01:17:20.360
George Carlin is the man, though.

01:17:20.600 --> 01:17:20.860
Yes.

01:17:21.080 --> 01:17:22.500
But next week,

01:17:22.580 --> 01:17:23.420
listen to Geek Love Radio

01:17:23.420 --> 01:17:24.500
because I have an actual

01:17:24.500 --> 01:17:26.360
interesting story to talk about.

01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:27.480
Oh, that's cool.

01:17:27.580 --> 01:17:29.820
Perfect for the Geek Love audience.

01:17:29.960 --> 01:17:30.820
I believe that's

01:17:30.820 --> 01:17:32.180
geekloveradio.com?

01:17:33.180 --> 01:17:34.600
Yes, geekloveradio.com.

01:17:34.720 --> 01:17:35.040
Okay.

01:17:35.220 --> 01:17:36.320
Just so everyone knows.

01:17:38.280 --> 01:17:39.160
Side of the week.

01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:41.000
I've been fooling around

01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:41.560
with this lately.

01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:43.200
I've been cracking my own

01:17:43.200 --> 01:17:44.980
wireless encryption protocol keys.

01:17:45.060 --> 01:17:45.640
I'm not sure if it's ever

01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:46.460
been mentioned on the show.

01:17:46.580 --> 01:17:47.400
I assume it has been.

01:17:48.360 --> 01:17:48.760
Webcrack.

01:17:49.100 --> 01:17:51.560
W-E-P-C-R-A-C-K.

01:17:52.160 --> 01:17:52.700
And that's,

01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:54.040
that word spelled out,

01:17:54.140 --> 01:17:55.220
.sf.net.

01:17:55.300 --> 01:17:56.140
It's on SourceForge.

01:17:56.220 --> 01:17:56.560
It's Linux.

01:17:56.560 --> 01:17:57.540
And what you do

01:17:57.540 --> 01:17:58.100
is you feed it

01:17:58.100 --> 01:17:59.240
a bunch of packet dumps

01:17:59.240 --> 01:18:02.360
from sniffing wireless,

01:18:03.040 --> 01:18:04.180
like your own wireless,

01:18:04.300 --> 01:18:05.620
because we wouldn't want

01:18:05.620 --> 01:18:06.260
to use this

01:18:06.260 --> 01:18:06.700
to break into

01:18:06.700 --> 01:18:07.520
someone else's network.

01:18:08.280 --> 01:18:09.880
And you just sniff it

01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:10.440
and you crack it

01:18:10.440 --> 01:18:10.880
and you can find

01:18:10.880 --> 01:18:12.780
people's wireless

01:18:12.780 --> 01:18:13.540
encryption keys

01:18:13.540 --> 01:18:14.780
because of a weakness

01:18:14.780 --> 01:18:15.660
in the wireless

01:18:15.660 --> 01:18:16.720
encryption protocol method.

01:18:17.560 --> 01:18:18.520
Really interesting

01:18:18.520 --> 01:18:19.100
and very,

01:18:19.220 --> 01:18:19.440
very,

01:18:19.520 --> 01:18:20.120
very scary.

01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:22.360
Email,

01:18:22.520 --> 01:18:22.980
as always,

01:18:22.980 --> 01:18:24.640
radio at binrev.com.

01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:27.800
Our voicemail,

01:18:28.100 --> 01:18:30.800
213-415-1047.

01:18:31.200 --> 01:18:32.060
And for those of you

01:18:32.060 --> 01:18:32.960
who are listening now,

01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:33.660
at the end of the show,

01:18:33.760 --> 01:18:34.600
I have an announcement.

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Hopefully,

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next week,

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if all goes according to plan,

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will be

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Introduction to Freaking

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and this will be

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Binrev Radio's

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first live show.

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And, oh boy,

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you guys are going live, huh?

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Yeah, we're going to,

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well,

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it's going to be

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a once in a while thing.

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And we're going to be,

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it's,

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I've been very hesitant

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to do this

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because there's a very

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small margin of error

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and if we screw up,

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basically,

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there's going to be

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no show,

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I think.

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I'm not sure

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what's going to happen,

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to be honest with you.

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So,

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actually,

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are you taking call-ins?

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Is that the deal?

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Yeah,

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we're taking call-ins,

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so get ready

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and have your shows

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on Freaking,

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have your questions

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on Freaking Ready

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or email us

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because nobody's

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emailing us anymore

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and it makes me sad.

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And just get ready

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and hopefully,

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we'll be there,

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but if you,

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if we,

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if we tape next week,

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we'll put it right

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at the beginning

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of the show

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that it's not live

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and I'll make an announcement

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in the IRC channel

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on the forums.

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But hopefully,

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if all goes

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according to the planet,

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we'll be live.

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So,

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our closing music tonight

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is Compost

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and 100 Comes Along

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is the name of the song.

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So,

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once again,

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we will see you next week,

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same hack time,

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same hack time.

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We'll see you next week.

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We'll see you next week.

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now,

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we'll see you next week.

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season 2

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live

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live

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play

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live

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in

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Mondays

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YouTuber

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live

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live

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live

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Thank you.

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