WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:10.220 This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers, to the hackers and the crackers. 00:10.700 --> 00:16.300 I see in binary, I speak source code, step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs if you 00:16.300 --> 00:21.560 in a fag pwned, in your digital stance getting firewalled ho, cause I'm riding the net in 00:21.560 --> 00:27.800 my six foe, I was a dick with my 56, now with my cable I'm able to get that stable, on the 00:27.800 --> 00:32.920 out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo, on the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a 00:32.920 --> 00:38.020 Nero, in a flash I'll screw you on burning dream caps, you need some ISO, let me through 00:38.020 --> 00:43.460 my hard drive rifle, our exchange you could never stifle, and a digital hug, you just caught 00:43.460 --> 00:49.720 the love bug, I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z, your CG, it's 00:49.720 --> 00:54.160 all gonna be free, whether we take it by force or we take it nicely, you feel that rattle 00:54.160 --> 00:58.920 in your bones, when I tell you we just hacked out Jones, and NASDAQ, leave you flat on your 00:58.920 --> 01:04.360 back, cause I am he who loves to hack and crack, cause I am he who loves to hack and crack, 01:04.740 --> 01:11.140 this is dedicated to the hackers and the crackers, serial phones, source code, ISO, RAM. 01:11.140 --> 01:18.780 Hello and welcome to Binary Revolution Radio, episode number 135 for February 14th, 2006. 01:18.780 --> 01:19.960 I'm Strom Carlson. 01:21.100 --> 01:24.660 And I'm Richard Leck, otherwise known as Sub-Zero. 01:25.040 --> 01:28.480 Hello Richard slash Sub-Zero, which would you prefer me to call you during the show? 01:29.000 --> 01:29.840 I just call me Richard. 01:30.040 --> 01:30.620 Alright Richard. 01:31.080 --> 01:37.600 So we don't have Ratchet with us live on the show this week, that's because we sent him 01:37.600 --> 01:40.980 off to Torino to cover the 2006 Winter Olympics. 01:42.420 --> 01:43.060 No way. 01:43.060 --> 01:48.820 Yeah, yeah, we figured we were going to expand our coverage on FinRev Radio because, you know, 01:48.900 --> 01:53.560 first off, you know, hey, that's what the listeners want, and secondly, you know, the 01:53.560 --> 01:57.560 media only talks about the sports, and you know, there's more to the Olympics than just 01:57.560 --> 01:59.740 the sports, there's a hacking angle too. 02:00.440 --> 02:02.660 Yeah, you guys must have just gotten like a huge budget, man. 02:03.040 --> 02:08.040 Yeah, yeah, you know, since we've done this thing, we've just like started spending thousands 02:08.040 --> 02:09.700 of dollars an episode and everything. 02:10.400 --> 02:11.120 Raking it in. 02:11.120 --> 02:13.780 Oh yeah, raking it in, all those advertising dollars. 02:14.700 --> 02:15.100 Exactly. 02:15.560 --> 02:21.680 So anyway, apparently it's too expensive even for us, for Ratchet to call back in and give 02:21.680 --> 02:25.440 us a report, but I do have a telegram that he sent in. 02:25.440 --> 02:31.780 So here we are with the FinRev Radio's first ever Olympic moment. 02:41.120 --> 02:55.880 As we open this up here, and it says, oh my god, dead hookers everywhere. 03:00.960 --> 03:02.160 God, I hate it. 03:02.460 --> 03:03.680 That's value for reporting. 03:03.680 --> 03:04.020 I hate when that happens. 03:04.560 --> 03:04.820 Yeah. 03:04.820 --> 03:06.320 Ah, man. 03:07.580 --> 03:12.780 So I guess tune in next week for more of Black Ratchet's wonderful insights into the 2006 03:12.780 --> 03:13.740 Torino Olympics. 03:14.460 --> 03:16.080 Man, that sucks. 03:16.460 --> 03:16.740 Yeah. 03:16.820 --> 03:19.220 When Olympics go bad, you should be like a second. 03:19.660 --> 03:19.860 Yeah. 03:20.780 --> 03:21.060 Man. 03:21.060 --> 03:23.680 Totally crazy. 03:25.540 --> 03:27.440 So, housekeeping. 03:27.980 --> 03:32.740 I just want to let you guys know that for those of you who have been listening on the 03:32.740 --> 03:40.520 podcast and 134 didn't show up, that's because I had a drive problem and I've just now found 03:40.520 --> 03:41.220 the files. 03:42.040 --> 03:44.080 The drive was leaking out on me. 03:44.080 --> 03:50.100 So I've still got to mix that and post it up, but you will have it, historically, and 03:50.100 --> 03:52.280 this should be more reason for you to listen in live. 03:52.880 --> 03:59.160 So remember, if you're listening on the podcast, listen in live every Tuesday night at 9.30 03:59.160 --> 04:04.940 Eastern, 6.30 Pacific PM, and on radio.binrev.com. 04:06.160 --> 04:07.980 You're almost going to ping my say, dude. 04:08.100 --> 04:10.280 You're going to be like pimping my geek over your say. 04:10.420 --> 04:10.600 Yeah. 04:11.960 --> 04:12.500 It's okay. 04:13.360 --> 04:13.600 Yeah. 04:14.080 --> 04:15.780 Well, we can pimp that, too. 04:15.880 --> 04:17.260 You can listen to Geek Love Radio, too. 04:17.540 --> 04:23.300 But, yeah, we're doing our Valentine's Day special. 04:23.460 --> 04:25.680 Richard is of Geek Love Radio. 04:26.900 --> 04:27.680 That would be correct. 04:27.980 --> 04:28.240 Yes. 04:28.640 --> 04:33.940 And so we're going to be doing a little bit unconventional stuff, but since our audience 04:33.940 --> 04:37.360 tends to be young and male and single. 04:38.980 --> 04:42.760 And if they're listening, they're probably not dating anybody right now. 04:42.760 --> 04:43.360 Yeah, exactly. 04:43.360 --> 04:48.100 If you're listening live, you're not on a Valentine's Day unless your idea of a Valentine's Day is 04:48.100 --> 04:50.840 listening to Binrev Radio, in which case, we love you forever. 04:52.280 --> 04:52.960 Hey, hon. 04:53.140 --> 04:54.260 You've got to listen to the show. 04:54.660 --> 04:55.500 Screw going to dinner. 04:55.820 --> 04:57.240 We're just going to listen to Binrev Radio. 04:57.600 --> 04:57.860 Yeah. 04:58.060 --> 04:58.280 Yeah. 04:58.280 --> 05:01.800 We're getting messages from the IRC channel. 05:02.020 --> 05:05.140 Please tell Richard to talk louder and enunciate. 05:05.660 --> 05:06.140 Okay. 05:06.140 --> 05:06.460 Yay. 05:07.260 --> 05:07.680 So. 05:08.320 --> 05:12.760 Yeah, I have a crappy phone, so I apologize off the bat. 05:13.000 --> 05:15.260 I'm using some phone that the school gave us. 05:15.620 --> 05:16.020 So. 05:16.460 --> 05:17.380 Hey, it sounds good to me. 05:17.420 --> 05:18.200 I can understand you. 05:19.260 --> 05:19.660 Yes. 05:20.420 --> 05:20.720 Yes. 05:20.720 --> 05:20.860 All right. 05:21.420 --> 05:23.980 So, do you have any housekeeping you need to take care of? 05:24.580 --> 05:24.980 No. 05:25.140 --> 05:25.660 No, I'm good. 05:26.140 --> 05:26.580 All right. 05:27.220 --> 05:28.900 Let's do some email. 05:30.460 --> 05:32.820 If I can pull up the email theme here. 05:32.820 --> 05:35.900 Just sing it. 05:52.280 --> 05:57.560 Bin, bin, bin, bin, binrev, radio, binrev.com. 05:58.900 --> 05:59.340 Yeah. 06:00.360 --> 06:01.760 You should just sing it one week. 06:01.840 --> 06:02.680 Surprise, everybody. 06:03.140 --> 06:03.340 Yeah. 06:03.440 --> 06:03.580 Yeah. 06:03.620 --> 06:07.840 Just be recording me going, yeah, bitradio at binrev.com. 06:09.760 --> 06:11.960 It's like all sorts of weird overdriven stuff in the background. 06:13.680 --> 06:14.260 All right. 06:14.560 --> 06:15.580 Are you a Mac expert? 06:16.660 --> 06:17.060 Me? 06:17.400 --> 06:21.440 No, I know Mac, but not an expert by any means. 06:21.520 --> 06:21.700 Yeah. 06:21.940 --> 06:22.500 Neither am I. 06:22.640 --> 06:25.720 So, our next email is from IP Filter, and it says, 06:26.120 --> 06:26.640 Hi, guys. 06:26.920 --> 06:30.880 I just got a G4 400 megahertz, and since I don't know shit about Macs, 06:30.880 --> 06:33.460 I just wanted to know, would OS X run on this decently, 06:33.600 --> 06:35.140 or should I just go with Yellow Dog? 06:35.500 --> 06:36.640 Any help would be great. 06:37.300 --> 06:38.320 And he was the wrong, great. 06:39.380 --> 06:39.740 Yeah. 06:39.740 --> 06:44.880 I don't think, I'm not an expert, but I don't think it's going to run decently. 06:45.280 --> 06:47.200 It might run, but it's going to be really crappy. 06:47.680 --> 06:47.920 Yeah. 06:47.920 --> 06:50.040 I have, like, zero experience with this, 06:50.120 --> 06:55.580 so I seem to recall OS X running just fine on my friend's iMac when he was living here. 06:56.060 --> 07:00.640 But, so I, in lieu of actual real knowledge, I asked the IRC channel. 07:01.320 --> 07:04.100 And so, we got, ew. 07:05.420 --> 07:08.240 We got, doesn't sound good, hee hee. 07:09.360 --> 07:10.480 From XSL. 07:10.480 --> 07:16.220 Well, Subxena says, I run 10.1 on a 233 megahertz G3 with 160 megs of RAM. 07:16.540 --> 07:17.440 It runs fine. 07:18.540 --> 07:21.960 And then Teoxy says, I think Panther will run fine if Tiger won't, 07:22.060 --> 07:23.380 although not terribly speedy. 07:24.700 --> 07:26.260 Yeah, I don't think it'll be too fast. 07:26.340 --> 07:28.120 Yeah, but, I mean, yeah. 07:28.400 --> 07:29.660 I don't see why it wouldn't work. 07:30.000 --> 07:33.260 But, although, once again, I'm not a Mac expert, so. 07:33.460 --> 07:33.660 Yeah. 07:34.040 --> 07:38.920 And then Teoxy points out that OS X is more RAM hungry than CPU hungry. 07:40.480 --> 07:45.320 So, yeah, I guess. 07:46.680 --> 07:47.120 Sure. 07:48.280 --> 07:49.040 Listen to them. 07:49.740 --> 07:50.900 Yeah, listen to them. 07:51.260 --> 07:53.900 Don't listen to me, because I am not really a Mac person. 07:56.040 --> 07:59.360 I don't think, yeah, few and far between, man. 07:59.480 --> 08:02.100 I've not met very many Mac people. 08:02.480 --> 08:05.300 Like, at least not, like, I don't know. 08:05.500 --> 08:07.520 Not people that would know up front and back, you know. 08:07.620 --> 08:08.740 Most of them are just users. 08:08.740 --> 08:13.940 Yeah, I remember I was in a cafe one time, and I was, you know, I was, they had Wi-Fi 08:13.940 --> 08:15.760 at the cafe, and I couldn't get mine to work. 08:16.380 --> 08:19.620 And, you know, it was connecting, but it wasn't rooting correctly. 08:20.380 --> 08:25.540 And so, you know, I said, I was running Linux, and so I noticed someone was sitting across 08:25.540 --> 08:27.040 the room with a Mac. 08:27.080 --> 08:29.160 And I said, you know, oh, Macs run Unix. 08:29.160 --> 08:30.180 So I said, that's fine. 08:30.720 --> 08:36.960 So I said, hey, can you by any chance tell me what route your IP packets are taking out 08:36.960 --> 08:37.500 to the network? 08:38.380 --> 08:40.800 And she just looked at me and said, what? 08:41.940 --> 08:42.680 What's an IP? 08:43.340 --> 08:44.140 Yeah, what's IP? 08:46.520 --> 08:48.480 Can you just pull up your IP routing tables? 08:48.480 --> 08:55.540 This is what happens when you live in a town populated with screenwriters. 08:55.700 --> 08:57.080 They're all trendoids. 08:57.700 --> 08:59.200 They just run Macs and then. 09:00.260 --> 09:02.800 Yeah, everybody has the Macs to look trendy. 09:03.220 --> 09:03.460 Mm-hmm. 09:04.600 --> 09:10.240 Yeah, I should do a survey at my local cafe because it's all like, it seems like screenwriters 09:10.240 --> 09:14.040 and Mac people and nothing else in the cafe. 09:15.060 --> 09:15.360 Yeah. 09:15.600 --> 09:19.320 Like, the only thing I ever use Mac for are, like, graphical stuff, you know. 09:19.520 --> 09:19.740 Mm-hmm. 09:19.740 --> 09:23.640 I'm a graphic design photography major, so that's pretty much what I use it for. 09:24.140 --> 09:27.380 So it's not one of those things that, like, I don't know. 09:27.800 --> 09:31.940 Like, I'm not sitting there writing papers on it or anything, so I wouldn't be an expert 09:31.940 --> 09:33.380 by any means on Mac. 09:33.740 --> 09:34.040 Mm-hmm. 09:34.040 --> 09:39.620 But, like, I don't understand, like, why anybody would, like, want to, like, I don't know, 09:39.860 --> 09:46.020 a PC or, like, even just, like, a Linux, you know, throw some distro on. 09:46.300 --> 09:47.740 You're, like, I don't know. 09:48.340 --> 09:49.160 It pisses me off. 09:49.200 --> 09:50.040 I can't speak anymore. 09:50.400 --> 09:50.640 Yeah. 09:51.100 --> 09:53.680 Well, you're getting distracted by that fire hydrant. 09:57.680 --> 09:59.100 What the heck was that? 09:59.820 --> 10:00.680 I don't know. 10:01.160 --> 10:01.700 Yeah, I'm here. 10:01.700 --> 10:03.960 You cut out and music started playing. 10:04.920 --> 10:05.320 Weird. 10:06.360 --> 10:08.200 We're going to have to figure this out later. 10:08.720 --> 10:09.040 Yeah. 10:10.040 --> 10:11.220 That was weird, dude. 10:11.340 --> 10:12.060 Yeah, that was weird. 10:12.120 --> 10:13.240 The joy of live radio. 10:14.040 --> 10:14.400 Yeah. 10:14.740 --> 10:15.140 Wow. 10:15.920 --> 10:17.360 Didn't know that could happen. 10:18.680 --> 10:20.200 I wasn't expecting it. 10:20.540 --> 10:21.020 So, anyway. 10:21.080 --> 10:22.880 Dude, it was an ambulance that drove by. 10:22.980 --> 10:24.340 I think that's what, I don't know. 10:24.720 --> 10:24.960 Yeah. 10:25.040 --> 10:25.460 The best interference. 10:25.460 --> 10:27.360 All right. 10:27.460 --> 10:31.940 So, our next email is from Rob, and he writes, 10:32.600 --> 10:36.140 Dear Stank Dog, long-time listener, first-time emailer. 10:39.440 --> 10:43.640 I guess by long-time listener, he means haven't listened for a long time. 10:44.140 --> 10:44.440 Oh. 10:45.440 --> 10:46.440 Harsh but true. 10:46.940 --> 10:47.180 Yeah. 10:47.640 --> 10:49.440 So, yeah. 10:49.520 --> 10:51.500 Yeah, Stank isn't on the show anymore. 10:51.500 --> 10:55.520 Yeah, just in case you were paying attention, Stank has not done the show for quite a while now. 10:56.080 --> 10:57.180 Unless he thinks you're Stank. 10:58.220 --> 10:58.900 That could be. 10:59.020 --> 11:01.080 I mean, I sound exactly like him. 11:01.580 --> 11:02.300 Yeah, you do. 11:04.080 --> 11:04.760 It's eerie. 11:05.180 --> 11:06.160 You guys look alike, too. 11:06.360 --> 11:06.620 Yeah. 11:06.780 --> 11:08.380 We're exactly the same person. 11:10.560 --> 11:11.880 I get you guys confused. 11:12.640 --> 11:12.940 Oh, yeah. 11:13.100 --> 11:13.360 All the time. 11:13.360 --> 11:15.020 Maybe it's just me. 11:17.160 --> 11:18.620 So, what was his email? 11:18.620 --> 11:19.460 His email says, 11:19.820 --> 11:22.500 Do you know of a way to set up asterisks to make the following work? 11:23.260 --> 11:24.920 I have an asterisk box at home. 11:25.260 --> 11:29.100 I have a cell phone plan, which provides me with unlimited anytime incoming calls. 11:29.400 --> 11:31.600 I would like to add functionality to asterisk, 11:31.820 --> 11:34.400 to such that when I call my home phone from my cell phone, 11:34.780 --> 11:38.080 asterisk recognizes the caller ID from my cell phone and does not answer the phone. 11:38.660 --> 11:41.020 After hang up my cell phone, asterisk... 11:41.020 --> 11:45.160 I should have edited this email because it's like all sentence fragments. 11:45.660 --> 11:46.020 Yeah. 11:46.020 --> 11:50.600 After I hang up my cell phone, asterisk dials out to call my cell phone. 11:50.800 --> 11:52.660 I then accept the incoming call from asterisk. 11:53.000 --> 11:57.560 Once connected, I would like to be able to make my asterisk box dial out to any number I punch into the phone. 11:57.960 --> 12:01.600 Not sure if this would require a second line or if it would work as a conference call. 12:02.340 --> 12:03.580 Hope my question makes some sense. 12:03.660 --> 12:06.360 I'm essentially trying to get around making outgoing calls from my cell phone 12:06.360 --> 12:07.800 as incoming calls are always free. 12:08.760 --> 12:10.180 Keep up the good work on the show. 12:10.660 --> 12:12.800 Rob, Toronto, Ontario, Canada. 12:14.020 --> 12:14.420 Sweet. 12:14.420 --> 12:15.780 You know what? 12:15.840 --> 12:19.880 He might be listening to old shows that are being run on Red Radio, maybe? 12:20.800 --> 12:21.160 Maybe. 12:21.800 --> 12:23.320 Because I know they do that sometimes. 12:24.100 --> 12:26.340 Yeah, I've got to check on that. 12:27.720 --> 12:31.060 I'm being told to say Gen 2 and iPod right now and get it the hell over with. 12:31.060 --> 12:36.320 So, all asterisk, all Gen 2, all iPods, all the time. 12:36.440 --> 12:37.120 Been Red Radio. 12:38.040 --> 12:40.240 But anyway, so, yeah. 12:40.720 --> 12:44.600 That is, what was I going to say? 12:44.740 --> 12:46.740 That is doable. 12:46.740 --> 12:56.840 I mean, what you'd have to do, the way asterisk works is you could set up a script to, what was I going to say? 12:56.920 --> 13:02.000 You could set up a script to have it, you know, generate an outgoing call when you call a specific number. 13:02.000 --> 13:13.340 And then, once you have, what it does, basically, you just have it copy a .call file into bar, spool, asterisk, outgoing. 13:14.300 --> 13:19.760 And so, once the call connects, it's treated just like an incoming call and extends to a specific context. 13:20.340 --> 13:27.420 And you can have a dial tone or a bong tone or whatever and then dial at your asterisk box. 13:27.420 --> 13:30.960 So, it's totally doable. 13:31.600 --> 13:35.640 It's a little more technical than I want to get into right now. 13:35.740 --> 13:42.920 But I guess if Rob wants to email radio at binrev.com directly, I can always explain it in person. 13:43.280 --> 13:47.940 But, yeah, I mean, it's a cool idea. 13:47.940 --> 13:56.200 But, you know, on the other hand, you know, how much are you talking on your mobile phone that you need all free calls all the time? 13:56.200 --> 14:01.880 Yeah, I don't think I could ever, like, talk on it that much. 14:02.320 --> 14:02.580 I know. 14:02.680 --> 14:06.220 I checked my balance of minutes this month. 14:06.280 --> 14:09.460 I think my billing cycle begins at the beginning of the month or somewhere very close. 14:10.140 --> 14:12.340 And so far this month, we're halfway through the month, right? 14:12.980 --> 14:13.200 Yeah. 14:13.200 --> 14:14.560 Yeah, we're exactly halfway through February. 14:15.520 --> 14:21.740 This whole month of my 1,000-minute mobile phone plan, I have used 81 minutes. 14:22.640 --> 14:23.040 Yeah. 14:23.200 --> 14:25.260 Well, you and me are, like, yeah, I'm the same way. 14:25.260 --> 14:29.800 I think I use more of the data, like, features on my phone than I'm actually calling out to anybody. 14:30.460 --> 14:33.940 Yeah, I use the data all the time, but the voice I just barely use. 14:34.360 --> 14:34.680 Yeah. 14:35.780 --> 14:36.520 It's ridiculous. 14:37.300 --> 14:37.560 Yeah. 14:39.120 --> 14:46.020 So, anyway, by the way, guys, what was I going to say? 14:46.140 --> 14:48.300 If you're listening live, we are taking calls. 14:48.640 --> 14:51.980 Don't forget to call 888-9-BINREV from within the U.S. and Canada. 14:51.980 --> 14:53.920 No, actually, not from within Canada. 14:54.100 --> 14:55.060 I'm losing my mind. 14:55.320 --> 14:57.760 Call 888-9-BINREV from within the U.S. 14:58.080 --> 15:04.960 And then from Canada and other countries, call country code 1-213-415-1047. 15:05.620 --> 15:09.400 And the lovely and illustrious Dr. Zygman will answer your call. 15:10.500 --> 15:10.880 Woo-hoo! 15:10.880 --> 15:15.620 In fact, I think, um, I think just for kicks, we should give him a call, should we? 15:16.140 --> 15:16.840 Yeah, do it. 15:17.000 --> 15:17.780 Yeah, let's give him a ring. 15:24.240 --> 15:27.280 I'll ask him where his, uh, his Valentine's Day date is. 15:27.280 --> 15:33.960 Pioneer Resolution Radio, this is Dr. Zygman. 15:34.040 --> 15:35.300 Do you have a question for the crew tonight? 15:35.880 --> 15:37.700 Hey, hello, it's Strom and Sub-Zero. 15:38.400 --> 15:39.100 Yo, what's up? 15:39.280 --> 15:39.460 Hey, guys. 15:39.720 --> 15:41.000 Hey, you're on the show. 15:41.100 --> 15:45.500 For lack of better things to do, we, uh, we decided to call you. 15:46.560 --> 15:47.340 With no warning? 15:47.440 --> 15:48.140 What's up with that? 15:48.420 --> 15:49.380 Yeah, none whatsoever. 15:49.620 --> 15:51.300 We've, you know, surprise phone calls. 15:51.300 --> 15:54.680 We were going to question you about your love life. 15:56.340 --> 15:57.600 About my love life? 15:57.800 --> 15:58.300 Uh, yeah. 15:58.520 --> 16:05.380 I work for the, I work for, uh, you know, Binary Revolution, and I go to school, and, uh, that's about it. 16:05.680 --> 16:07.620 So, uh, I really have my love life. 16:08.700 --> 16:09.980 It happens, it happens. 16:09.980 --> 16:16.260 Uh, so yes, we, we at Bin Rev Radio will be, um, will be helping you with your love life thing. 16:16.940 --> 16:17.340 Yes. 16:17.800 --> 16:19.420 Tonight, one and only chance. 16:19.420 --> 16:21.320 If you want a girlfriend, call in. 16:22.440 --> 16:26.520 As much as I, as much as I appreciate the, uh, the offer, you know, I, I'm a really busy guy. 16:27.160 --> 16:29.080 I really don't have time for somebody else. 16:29.200 --> 16:31.060 I, I'm the most important person in the world. 16:31.360 --> 16:32.180 I mean, you are. 16:32.380 --> 16:32.620 I mean, you're not going to be me. 16:33.780 --> 16:34.180 Yeah. 16:35.860 --> 16:42.540 So, if you, if you want to berate Sigmund, you can call 888-9-BINREV, and, uh, and maybe you'll get on the show, too. 16:43.180 --> 16:44.100 So, call now. 16:44.260 --> 16:44.980 Call, call, call. 16:46.100 --> 16:46.460 Call. 16:47.580 --> 16:49.020 Call 888-9-BINREV. 16:49.020 --> 16:54.280 If you have any questions, or if you want to do, say anything on the show, call us, and, uh, yeah, talk to Zigmund. 16:56.100 --> 16:56.680 That's right. 16:56.720 --> 16:58.200 I feel the love. 16:58.460 --> 16:58.940 Oh, yeah. 16:59.280 --> 16:59.960 Feel the love. 17:00.440 --> 17:03.100 I, I, I think I need you to hang up, Zigmund. 17:04.640 --> 17:04.920 Uh. 17:04.920 --> 17:06.260 He's like, no, I don't think I'm going to hang up. 17:06.740 --> 17:07.200 I'm sorry? 17:07.400 --> 17:10.080 I don't think I can, I can't hang, I can't hang up on you. 17:10.420 --> 17:10.980 You can't? 17:11.840 --> 17:12.160 No. 17:13.200 --> 17:13.640 Try it. 17:13.640 --> 17:18.940 Uh, well, if I, I'm going to drop you to an extension, and you're going to hear a hold 17:18.940 --> 17:19.200 music. 17:19.300 --> 17:19.820 No, no, no, no, no. 17:20.060 --> 17:21.540 Hit, hit the hang up button on your phone. 17:22.260 --> 17:22.900 On your soft phone. 17:22.940 --> 17:23.380 Okay, bye. 17:23.600 --> 17:23.900 Bye. 17:23.980 --> 17:24.640 Bye, everybody. 17:26.860 --> 17:27.500 There we go. 17:28.680 --> 17:29.320 There we go. 17:30.440 --> 17:33.300 So, um, do you have any personal hacking stories? 17:34.400 --> 17:36.520 Uh, none right now. 17:36.960 --> 17:39.320 None that, none that I can speak of, actually, right now. 17:39.580 --> 17:41.020 Yeah, actually, same with me. 17:41.120 --> 17:44.980 I just made a major breakthrough on some project I've been working on, but I can't talk about 17:44.980 --> 17:45.400 it yet. 17:46.020 --> 17:46.340 Yeah. 17:46.520 --> 17:46.760 So. 17:47.020 --> 17:48.260 Which is really cool, by the way. 17:48.900 --> 17:49.200 Yeah. 17:49.920 --> 17:54.420 If, if, if I've told you about it personally, then, yeah, you know how cool it is, but, 17:54.420 --> 17:54.680 uh. 17:54.820 --> 17:55.060 Yeah. 17:55.560 --> 18:01.140 Wait, wait around for BinRev Radio, and, uh, or wait around for either the BinRev Radio 18:01.140 --> 18:05.500 where I do talk about this, or, uh, I'll, I'll be talking about a Layer 1, maybe a Black Hat 18:05.500 --> 18:06.200 and DEF CON 2. 18:07.560 --> 18:08.520 Probably both. 18:08.520 --> 18:09.620 Like, yeah, probably both. 18:10.200 --> 18:11.580 You should, you should go to Hope, too. 18:12.280 --> 18:14.860 Maybe, yeah, and then just, like, totally conference myself out. 18:15.560 --> 18:15.920 Exactly. 18:16.100 --> 18:17.360 Go to every CON ever. 18:19.820 --> 18:24.900 No, I guess, um, I'm trying to start a CON here in Chicago, if you guys didn't know. 18:24.960 --> 18:29.560 Like, I had, like, moved all the way up to Chicago, the big city, and, like, I've been, 18:29.620 --> 18:32.740 uh, thinking about starting a CON, and I'm like, I've had good, uh, response from most 18:32.740 --> 18:38.320 people, so, if anybody's interested in starting a CON, I guess, in Chicago area, uh, just 18:38.320 --> 18:42.660 I guess email BinRev Radio, and, like, Strom can forward me emails, or whatever. 18:44.660 --> 18:51.040 And I'm going to be, like, speaking at the, at the 2600 meeting, this upcoming, I guess, 18:51.100 --> 18:55.220 this upcoming meeting about it, and, like, I've talked to a lot of people from St. Louis 18:55.220 --> 18:58.940 area, and, like, surrounding Midwest 2600s, too. 18:59.480 --> 19:02.480 So, everybody's receptive, so I'm going to see if, I'm just going to get it going. 19:02.820 --> 19:03.400 I figure, you know what? 19:03.940 --> 19:04.400 Screw it. 19:04.720 --> 19:05.200 Might as well. 19:06.080 --> 19:06.420 Awesome. 19:07.420 --> 19:07.780 Yes. 19:09.440 --> 19:13.060 So, I guess that's, like, the only thing, I guess, right now. 19:14.700 --> 19:15.020 Cool. 19:15.020 --> 19:22.060 So, uh, we are getting into our, we are just running through this, like, mad tonight. 19:22.200 --> 19:25.440 We're already on the show topic, and we're only, what, 20 minutes into the show? 19:27.360 --> 19:29.160 We're, we're, we're in serious trouble here. 19:29.680 --> 19:30.000 Hello? 19:30.360 --> 19:30.680 Hello? 19:34.080 --> 19:37.320 We're in doubly serious trouble, because, uh, hello? 19:37.320 --> 19:37.420 Hello? 19:37.420 --> 19:37.500 Hello? 19:41.340 --> 19:41.780 Hello? 19:43.700 --> 19:47.480 We're in triple serious trouble, because I think we've lost, uh, lost sub-zero. 19:49.880 --> 19:51.960 I can hear him, and he can't, uh, hear me. 19:53.300 --> 19:54.400 This is really horrible. 19:55.540 --> 20:00.780 So, um, we're, we're having technical difficulties. 20:01.160 --> 20:02.140 One moment. 20:02.140 --> 20:08.360 Uh, let, let me message him and say, call back in. 20:10.620 --> 20:11.220 Oh, there. 20:11.280 --> 20:11.700 He hung up. 20:12.240 --> 20:18.560 So, so, we're, we're, we're going to talk about Geek Love Radio tonight, but we can't 20:18.560 --> 20:23.740 really do it unless, uh, unless sub-zero comes back, and I'm sure he will in a second here. 20:24.520 --> 20:26.420 In fact, I better just bring him back. 20:26.480 --> 20:27.840 One moment, please. 20:31.780 --> 20:32.100 Uh, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, 20:32.140 --> 20:44.160 let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's play. 20:46.160 --> 20:47.500 Dude, I don't know what's going on here, man. 20:47.560 --> 20:49.100 Yeah, okay, we, we, we, we're, we're back. 20:49.220 --> 20:52.060 We've got, uh, we've got Richard back with us. 20:53.240 --> 20:53.980 Sorry about that. 20:54.760 --> 20:55.920 Dude, dude, it's kind of crazy. 20:56.400 --> 21:01.780 I'm, like, stealing the phone from, like, stealing, like, this phone line from, not stealing, I'm borrowing it. 21:01.780 --> 21:07.780 it so like i'm not like in my room or anything so maybe like some of these i don't know the phone's 21:07.780 --> 21:14.980 flaking out freaking weird man that's all i gotta say it's those valentine's day demons yeah 21:14.980 --> 21:21.920 valentine's day demon so speaking of which it is valentine's day it's it's uh less than three day 21:21.920 --> 21:31.360 yes day for for you uh the the wonderful person that you are to spend lots of money and time 21:31.360 --> 21:36.600 and energy on your sweetheart and uh and and hope that they they don't think you do too little and 21:36.600 --> 21:47.480 break up with you yes but uh seeing as our audience is typically you know young and male and usually 21:47.480 --> 21:52.340 single and has trouble with relationships we figure that valentine's day would be a great uh great 21:52.340 --> 22:00.660 opportunity to talk with uh with with richard of key club radio and and offer some wonderful advice 22:00.660 --> 22:05.240 to all of you uh all of you struggling hackers out there who are trying desperately to get chicks 22:05.240 --> 22:13.420 or guys as a baby yes how to hack relationships yes hacking relationships on binary relationships 101 22:13.420 --> 22:20.980 yeah so uh so i mean okay you you i admit i've been a bad friend and i haven't been listening to your 22:20.980 --> 22:29.820 show so um so why don't you go ahead and and start off on your spiel okay well um actually to tell you 22:29.820 --> 22:37.280 the truth like uh since i moved up to chicago i adam my co-host for geek club radio um we've been 22:37.280 --> 22:43.500 kind of like uh on this break like this winter break uh since about mid-december or whatever 22:43.500 --> 22:48.900 and we actually just recording it recorded a show that it's going to be up tonight uh so if anybody 22:48.900 --> 22:54.360 wants to go download it it'll be like out at midnight tonight probably and uh it's like the 22:54.360 --> 22:58.080 valentine's day special show or whatever and but we're going to get back into the swing of things 22:58.080 --> 23:02.620 like we just had to get organized like me moving to chicago and him back in iowa where we do our show 23:02.620 --> 23:07.700 so like we just had to figure out how that was going to work out um but yeah we're like back in 23:07.700 --> 23:12.420 the swing of things pretty much like this show for anybody that hasn't listened to it it's 23:12.420 --> 23:17.860 i guess the only way to compare it is like that show love line like you hear like 23:17.860 --> 23:24.900 on regular radio i guess it's like love line for geeks you know and we pretty much give love advice 23:24.900 --> 23:30.720 you know people email us and like send us instant messages all the time so we get like wide ranges 23:30.720 --> 23:40.980 of emails and all the time it's pretty crazy cool so yeah so i mean what are what are the typical 23:40.980 --> 23:48.040 you know things you see i mean the stereotype is that hackers are you know very much socially inept 23:48.040 --> 23:54.060 and unable to unable to handle themselves in social situations is is that you know pretty much the kind 23:54.060 --> 23:59.580 of stuff that you see when you get viewer email and you answer viewer calls or yeah what kind of 23:59.580 --> 24:04.960 do you get we find most people are just kind of shy you know like they're they're scared to go up to 24:04.960 --> 24:10.800 to like a girl or a guy and like just like initiate conversation and like that that seems like to be one 24:10.800 --> 24:15.660 of the biggest steps especially for like people that haven't done the dating thing much or like 24:15.660 --> 24:20.400 it's just like that scary step you know you don't know what's going to happen and like i've been 24:20.400 --> 24:27.580 working with uh some people about like with it and and i mean it's after you get past that step i mean 24:27.580 --> 24:35.920 it gets pretty easy but i mean just getting past that step in itself is is the hardest part and i mean 24:35.920 --> 24:40.420 like i'm not gonna lie sometimes it takes like a couple months you know just like slowly building 24:40.420 --> 24:41.460 yourself up to it so 24:41.460 --> 24:51.820 so cool so they're just pretty much shy yeah like i'm like on the other hand too it's like one of 24:51.820 --> 24:58.060 those things where like for instance like we get a lot of emails asking about like conversation topics 24:58.060 --> 25:01.820 and stuff like that because a lot of hackers you know they're like all into the tech stuff and 25:01.820 --> 25:07.120 most girls you know to be honest just don't do the whole tech thing so like trying to find common 25:07.120 --> 25:12.840 ground you know between you and like whoever you're trying to talk to sometimes that can get 25:12.840 --> 25:20.520 difficult too and you know to be honest like hackers in general like have a different mindset 25:20.520 --> 25:27.840 than most people obviously you know and like that's why they're hackers like but i mean like the way 25:27.840 --> 25:33.980 people think in general is different so i don't think it's like so like when people start talking 25:33.980 --> 25:41.640 about like nerds and geeks like being really weird or like not having like social you know skills or 25:41.640 --> 25:46.060 whatever you want to call it you know for dating it's not a matter of like not having social skills 25:46.060 --> 25:51.800 it's just like there's a difference in like mindset and like the way people think so like that's mainly 25:51.800 --> 25:58.120 like the biggest problem and like trying to adjust you know to to like other i don't know to other 25:58.120 --> 26:05.380 people because when you're sitting there coding all day and like your main conversation is with like 26:05.380 --> 26:09.080 somebody on irc you know that's not like you know the most socially 26:09.080 --> 26:19.900 productive environment yeah it works it works black hole of being social yeah yeah kind of 26:19.900 --> 26:25.960 but i mean you know anybody can do it to be honest you know it's just a matter of like 26:25.960 --> 26:32.900 actually taking initiative and doing it cool and like that's that's what we talk about so 26:32.900 --> 26:38.980 we have a caller yes so let's grab our caller 26:38.980 --> 26:46.660 hello war are you there 26:46.660 --> 26:51.060 hey what's up hey what's up man what's going on man 26:51.060 --> 26:54.940 welcome to bin rev radio hello 26:54.940 --> 26:59.620 hey what's up um did i interrupt something i'm sorry 26:59.620 --> 27:04.740 what did i interrupt something uh no no no you're you're on you're on the air 27:04.740 --> 27:11.520 oh okay hey um i just wanted to mention that uh in reference to that fellow who phoned about the 27:11.520 --> 27:18.520 asterisk callback visa system uh-huh there's uh there's actually a really good one that's available 27:18.520 --> 27:24.880 on the internet oh really yeah i don't know if you want me to read the url off or what here 27:24.880 --> 27:30.860 yeah point us at the url i thought you might like to know it's uh on nerd nerd vittles blog i don't 27:30.860 --> 27:37.520 know i think it's been mentioned on the forum can you spell that for us finally sorry what can you 27:37.520 --> 27:42.880 spell that for us hello hello hello hello 27:42.880 --> 27:49.160 man we're just having crazy crazy difficulties 27:49.160 --> 27:56.060 i hear a nice little echo too yeah hey hey hello 27:56.060 --> 28:01.640 sorry i heard like this uh 20 seconds of high speed talk i'll come back at one time 28:01.640 --> 28:08.000 freaky okay sorry i'm just looking for the url here okay 28:08.000 --> 28:14.000 it's in my history 28:14.000 --> 28:18.880 so yeah brain dead from canada so i'm allowed to be mentally retarded right 28:18.880 --> 28:20.380 i guess so 28:20.380 --> 28:25.320 oh you gotta be kidding me what 28:25.320 --> 28:35.960 hello hello oh there gotcha okay um what the hell it seemed to just have disappeared out of my 28:35.960 --> 28:38.520 history just as i uh went to go look for it 28:38.520 --> 28:45.380 hmm so it's the irony isn't it yeah you said nerd vittles right n-e-r-d-v-i-t-t-l-e-s or something 28:45.380 --> 28:52.840 oh there it is um yeah that's right uh http colon backslash backslash those are forward 28:52.840 --> 28:59.260 fundy.org slash blog that's m-u-n-d-y period 28:59.260 --> 29:03.960 mm-hmm org o-r-g backslash blog b-l-o-g 29:03.960 --> 29:08.800 um that'll put you to the blog i guess you probably want a direct link don't you 29:08.800 --> 29:16.360 hmm yeah uh tiny url or something and and so while you're doing that do you have a question about uh 29:16.360 --> 29:19.380 about hacker relationship for richard 29:19.380 --> 29:27.680 no i don't i just uh i just thought i had mentioned that are you guys talking about 29:27.680 --> 29:31.760 hacker relationships yeah we are it's our valentine's day special 29:31.760 --> 29:39.360 oh more like our valentine's url do you want to see the tiny url here yeah definitely 29:39.360 --> 29:54.160 okay it's tinyurl.com backslash a b v w three alpha bravo victor whiskey three cool cool 29:54.160 --> 30:01.980 all right so there it is for our for asterisk radio question person yeah for that fellow it 30:01.980 --> 30:08.580 works pretty well okay all right sweet cool all right okay bye see you man 30:08.580 --> 30:15.960 all right so um this is going exceedingly well 30:15.960 --> 30:23.580 see what i'm telling you it's the valentine's day curse it is it is you can't escape it no you can't 30:23.580 --> 30:29.640 you've got the the the fire engines going we've got there oh yeah i think one of the buildings is 30:29.640 --> 30:37.180 like burning down oh yay so so we've got like natural disasters and lack of of love yeah it 30:37.180 --> 30:47.740 happens it happens so tell us more about about like what are some bizarre things that you've gotten on 30:47.740 --> 30:56.060 the radio show uh let's see all right one time we were doing this show and we got emailed about uh 30:56.060 --> 31:01.560 we got emailed from some guy well okay it wasn't really email it was like a text message during the 31:01.560 --> 31:09.760 show and dude i seriously think my building's burning down no okay it was a text message during 31:09.760 --> 31:14.920 the show about some guy that uh he walked in on him and his girlfriend and his best friend 31:14.920 --> 31:19.880 like just having sex in his best friend's house and he was like moving down and he had like his 31:19.880 --> 31:27.880 car full of of like junk you know so he could go move in with his girlfriend and she when he walked 31:27.880 --> 31:33.340 in like the best friend and the girlfriend were just there you know kind of doing it oh no yeah so 31:33.340 --> 31:39.900 he like went back he like the first thing he did i guess is go to a hotel room get on his laptop and 31:39.900 --> 31:47.560 like message us and like ask us what he should do we're just like uh like i don't know oh no yeah it 31:47.560 --> 31:54.700 was like on the spot sort of thing yeah it was great but i feel bad for the kid and like he ended 31:54.700 --> 31:59.880 up like emailing us saying like a couple months later like thanking us for everything and like saying 31:59.880 --> 32:05.360 that he moved on and like he's his he's still friends with his friend but like you know they're not 32:05.360 --> 32:11.720 so close anymore but yeah that was like probably a memorable moment like there's like some weird 32:11.720 --> 32:18.780 lesbian chicks that like wanted us or something they like kept messaging us saying like thank you 32:18.780 --> 32:26.140 for the radio show that like our voices were so sexy and we're just like right we just get weird 32:26.140 --> 32:29.680 crap like that all the time crazy non-stop 32:29.680 --> 32:34.060 and i'm dropping money on the floor 32:34.060 --> 32:45.340 so yeah we're right so i mean like apart from the shyness what are some some of the problems that 32:45.340 --> 32:50.540 you think face uh face hackers who are trying to get into relationships and what what kind of 32:50.540 --> 32:55.880 what what do you what would you say seems different about uh about hackers in relationships and geeks 32:55.880 --> 33:02.980 than uh what you perceive to be your typical you know young adult in a relationship well like the 33:02.980 --> 33:08.760 main thing is this okay most like geeks and nerds or hackers or whatever you want to call it like 33:08.760 --> 33:13.960 they like they'll pretty much be in the relationship like i mean if they're in a relationship they're 33:13.960 --> 33:19.600 like head head on you know like they're not gonna like take crap because i mean most times most of 33:19.600 --> 33:25.700 these people like me included you know like and i'm a geek so like i mean it's when relationships 33:25.700 --> 33:31.040 come they're like far and few between so it's like okay you like work at it as best as you can 33:31.040 --> 33:37.320 and like one of the things that like separates geeks from like most of the people is like just 33:37.320 --> 33:43.340 while they're in the relationship like i mean you'll hear like girls that just say like geeks are 33:43.340 --> 33:46.600 like the best thing on the date just because like they're so nice you know they'll be like 33:46.600 --> 33:51.160 thoughtful and caring and just because they work at it harder than like most people do 33:51.160 --> 33:58.360 that just you know get random relationships like in a bar every other week i mean so like i don't 33:58.360 --> 34:02.280 know i think that's like one of the big differences between like relationships and like the dating 34:02.280 --> 34:08.540 styles between like geeks and like other people other people i don't know how you want to call the 34:08.540 --> 34:13.400 other people but yeah because i mean most people you know go through these relationships like 34:13.400 --> 34:20.000 they're candy and like so they don't treasure it as much i guess and like for instance like this 34:20.000 --> 34:26.820 summer like we were out in like uh los angeles in like your area and like we were like we went and 34:26.820 --> 34:30.920 talked to kat schwartz for a while and like we hung out with her and like we're talking to her and 34:30.920 --> 34:36.000 like did an interview with her and stuff like that and uh she was saying how like she she wouldn't 34:36.000 --> 34:40.760 ever not date a geek just because like geeks are like the best sort of guy to date so 34:40.760 --> 34:46.840 so if you're a geek out there like don't worry like if you can't get anything like right now 34:46.840 --> 34:51.900 because like trust me it'll happen sooner or later like girls will just eat it up 34:51.900 --> 35:00.780 yeah i've i've not been in terribly many relationships myself i've like dated someone 35:00.780 --> 35:06.740 in september or october and then i've like briefly dated somebody in january and that was about it 35:06.740 --> 35:15.160 as far as like serious dating goes yeah like i mean like me personally like i'm always on the 35:15.160 --> 35:20.660 move like right now it wouldn't really be like i don't think it'd be fair like if i was dating 35:20.660 --> 35:24.580 somebody just because like i'm always traveling somewhere like i'm always doing something and 35:24.580 --> 35:29.340 like i don't have enough time like to put into the relationship and like that's a big thing like 35:29.340 --> 35:33.840 we always talk about like on our show is like you got to self-evaluate yourself and like make sure 35:33.840 --> 35:37.220 like you're ready for the relationship because if you're not it's just not going to work out no 35:37.220 --> 35:38.080 matter what you do 35:38.080 --> 35:54.280 dead air uh dead air yeah you gotta love it oh yeah oh yeah no but i mean like okay like one of 35:54.280 --> 36:01.220 the main examples i mean we always get is like you always hear or we'll always you always hear like 36:01.220 --> 36:04.680 the guy you know that's like the nerd or the geek or whatever and you'll be like 36:04.680 --> 36:12.600 like his idea of a date might be like sitting at home playing like video games or like getting 36:12.600 --> 36:17.160 online and playing like world of warcraft or something and when you're in a relationship you 36:17.160 --> 36:22.460 gotta spend like way more time in the relationship than you like you have to like work at it it's not 36:22.460 --> 36:26.800 one of those things that just comes easy and like i think that's that like that's another problem 36:26.800 --> 36:30.800 with like geeks because like i mean for instance like computers you know it's easy for us to get 36:30.800 --> 36:35.200 on a computer and like fix problems and like workout problems but like when it comes to relationship 36:35.200 --> 36:40.720 and like there's so many different like weird things that can go wrong you know and like you're 36:40.720 --> 36:47.260 just not ready for it i think that's kind of like what what like takes it i like most people just don't 36:47.260 --> 36:52.320 understand it you know to be honest well i mean what do you think are some of the barriers to 36:52.320 --> 36:59.100 understanding just i mean because the thing that strikes me as odd is you know as as hackers and 36:59.100 --> 37:03.280 geeks we're so good at picking up these really complicated really technical things really you 37:03.280 --> 37:09.120 really quickly and then uh but when it comes to relationships some so often we're just totally 37:09.120 --> 37:14.820 clueless yeah okay well it's like the way of thinking um i took this whole class on it actually 37:14.820 --> 37:20.680 and basically i mean there's two parts of our brain we use like our right side of our brain and 37:20.680 --> 37:25.440 our left side like the left side is more like the technical aspects of the brain and the right side 37:25.440 --> 37:31.060 is more like the artistic side of your brain and um most like geeks and like computer hackers and 37:31.060 --> 37:37.360 like everything like that they're pretty much like all left-brained and like because of it 37:37.360 --> 37:43.500 everything's like technical everything's like you know everything has its place and and but like 37:43.500 --> 37:47.600 that's not how relationships work so like when you're trying to get like it's like if you were 37:47.600 --> 37:51.020 right-handed and you're trying to like right left-handed you know it takes practice you know 37:51.020 --> 37:55.780 before you can get anything to come out just because you're not i mean you're just used to 37:55.780 --> 38:00.400 one way like all your whole life so that's how it is and like when you're used to like thinking 38:00.400 --> 38:05.160 really technically oriented and like you're good most like left brain people are good at math they're 38:05.160 --> 38:09.240 like good at computers and like i mean they can see code and just like figure out what's wrong with 38:09.240 --> 38:15.160 it as opposed to like somebody who can like i mean and like to be honest like most hackers aren't 38:15.160 --> 38:19.960 artists and like most artists have like the whole right brain thing going on where they can just like 38:19.960 --> 38:26.840 think abstractly and like think in like you know different dimensions and levels and like you know 38:26.840 --> 38:31.280 there's like more emotion that goes into it instead of just like you know technical like 38:31.280 --> 38:36.560 tapping of the keyboard yeah but i guess conversely you you can be too right-brained and then not 38:36.560 --> 38:42.320 really think logically at all exactly exactly it goes both ways and but like i think that's one of 38:42.320 --> 38:48.300 the main like issues when it comes to like just like trying to get like you know a right brain girl 38:48.300 --> 38:54.380 like to to get into like a left brain guy is kind of sort of hard but i mean there's it can happen 38:54.380 --> 38:58.120 but you just got to work at it you know and you have to understand like things aren't going to come 38:58.120 --> 39:03.860 easy like in relationships like they do in computers you know something's wrong just shut the computer 39:03.860 --> 39:09.640 off you can't really do that with a relationship you know so so i mean like the thing that occurs 39:09.640 --> 39:15.820 to me is you know obviously you're you know hackers are very much left-brained people and and girls 39:15.820 --> 39:21.240 are more right-brained what what happens when you know a left-brained hacker meets a left-brained girl 39:21.240 --> 39:27.300 and they're both very technical and they're they're not neither of them is very artistic or emotional 39:27.300 --> 39:33.080 well like when i'm like that's just really like extremes like most people aren't just left-brained 39:33.080 --> 39:38.960 or right-brained right and like the thing is like no matter who you meet there's different levels also 39:38.960 --> 39:44.680 that come into play like personality matches you know like things like you know are you into the 39:44.680 --> 39:49.080 same music or just like random stuff that that just isn't left-brained or right-brained that come 39:49.080 --> 39:55.780 into play but like i mean when say like a right-brained person meets like or two left-brained 39:55.780 --> 39:59.820 people meet you know they have an easier time to click because they like can understand each other 39:59.820 --> 40:05.420 better so it's going to be yeah it'll just be easier for them to like i mean they'll find more 40:05.420 --> 40:10.340 common ground quicker you know they'll almost be into the same things you know sooner or later so 40:10.340 --> 40:17.700 like maybe it's not exactly the same things but it i mean it's just easier for it to happen that way 40:17.700 --> 40:26.040 like realistically speaking most times it just doesn't happen that way and i mean like even 40:26.040 --> 40:30.100 like i said nobody's like either just left-brained or right-brained and like there's always a mix in 40:30.100 --> 40:37.020 between but one side dominates more i guess and like so it just depends well yeah i mean obviously 40:37.020 --> 40:42.020 there's uh you know of course no one's ever extreme i was just saying you know more predominantly 40:42.020 --> 40:47.400 left-brained versus more predominantly right-brained yeah yeah yeah i don't know it's 40:47.400 --> 40:52.660 it happens you know but that's like one of those things you have to work through and like that's 40:52.660 --> 40:58.280 and sometimes it's hard to like understand that you have to actually work at it and it's not 40:58.280 --> 41:03.680 like something that just comes easy and like you see people out there like all the time that you know 41:03.680 --> 41:08.640 just pick up women like it's king like i mean just like walk into like a candy store and you know 41:08.640 --> 41:15.300 but like the thing is like i mean everybody had to start somewhere and like everybody was shy at one 41:15.300 --> 41:21.380 point and it's just working through that and and you know i guess like going with it i mean you can't 41:21.380 --> 41:26.380 really you're never really good at anything you know when you start out so yeah that's true 41:26.380 --> 41:35.440 now the question i have is do you think really that um do you think that it it is it's destined to work 41:35.440 --> 41:40.180 if do you think it's destined to fail if you've got someone who's you know very very logical very 41:40.180 --> 41:44.380 probably left-brained and then someone who's very very right-brained i mean they say that offices 41:44.380 --> 41:50.620 attract and they say that you know it's it's good not to be just like your your partner but i mean 41:50.620 --> 41:55.860 yeah surely there has to be some sort of conflict there yeah i mean there always is going to be a 41:55.860 --> 42:01.440 conflict you know like just the way things work like for instance i mean it's not impossible and it's 42:01.440 --> 42:05.200 actually like i mean it happens all the time but like the thing is there's like i said there's 42:05.200 --> 42:09.860 other issues that go into play like for instance like personality you know like backgrounds like 42:09.860 --> 42:14.400 are you are you from like the same social background sometimes that even has effect you know or like are 42:14.400 --> 42:19.620 you from like do you believe in the same religions and like just stuff like that like once you can find 42:19.620 --> 42:24.540 like more ground between each other that just isn't left brain or right brain related like you have a 42:24.540 --> 42:29.360 more likelihood of making it work so like it's not i mean it's just not like a left brain right 42:29.360 --> 42:35.900 thinking you know it's it's personalities and like making it click you know do you like the same 42:35.900 --> 42:42.400 movies do you listen to the same music you know it's a mixture of everything and like so like when 42:42.400 --> 42:47.280 you sit there and like you meet a girl for the first time you know you're not like automatically 42:47.280 --> 42:51.660 like throwing around one side of the other you know yes or no sort of thing so 42:51.660 --> 43:00.000 but yeah i don't know it just depends on like the girls you meet and like where you actually go meet 43:00.000 --> 43:07.380 like meet girls who are guys if that's the case yeah well i mean where where are good places to find 43:07.380 --> 43:15.200 them and where are bad places to find them bad places like i'm gonna advise like just never go to a bar 43:15.200 --> 43:20.900 expecting to pick up women and like don't ever go to a bar to expect to pick up a woman and like 43:20.900 --> 43:26.100 have a relationship with a woman it can happen i'm not saying it won't happen but like if you think 43:26.100 --> 43:30.320 about it most people go to bars just to have fun you know so like if you're gonna if you like end up 43:30.320 --> 43:34.460 going home with like a girl or like a girl goes home with you or a guy goes home with you or like 43:34.460 --> 43:37.980 whatever it's not one of those things that you can be like okay you know there's gonna be like the 43:37.980 --> 43:43.100 relationship this is it because i mean obviously they went there to have fun you went there to have fun 43:43.100 --> 43:48.120 and like so like the expectations of a relationship aren't there like when you meet especially 43:48.120 --> 43:52.360 especially if you're meeting somebody like when you're drunk because you have no clue like what 43:52.360 --> 43:57.900 they're like in person i mean like if you're only if the only way you've ever seen them is like 43:57.900 --> 44:02.380 with alcohol in them you know you can't really judge somebody and say hey this is you know who i 44:02.380 --> 44:09.020 like this is who i want to be with you know yeah well i know for a fact that the the gay bars are more 44:09.020 --> 44:16.180 more pretty much all about picking up and hooking up people yeah is it just like picking up hooking 44:16.180 --> 44:21.600 up and just being like yeah whatever yeah for the most part yeah sometimes sometimes it results in 44:21.600 --> 44:27.580 longer lasting things but oh my god it's all about sex with the gay bars yeah i mean and like that's 44:27.580 --> 44:32.880 what people okay you know to be honest you see all these girls dressing like to go to the bar and 44:32.880 --> 44:37.100 like skimpy outfits you know they'll have like the mini skirts on and like the the t-shirt that's like 44:37.100 --> 44:42.920 five sizes too small and like the breasts are hanging out you know and like you know girls 44:42.920 --> 44:48.240 don't dress like that just to go get a relationship they dress like that so they can go get some action 44:48.240 --> 44:54.340 and like no matter what any girl says and they're like oh we just want to feel sexy and like stuff 44:54.340 --> 44:59.340 like that i mean that's that's like the underlying fact and you have to realize that like when you go 44:59.340 --> 45:05.180 to these bars they're like you know like they're there for action they're there for fun you know 45:05.180 --> 45:09.420 they're not looking for relationships so if you if your whole reason for going out and like 45:09.420 --> 45:15.480 going to bars and it's like meet women don't expect anything serious to come out of it and like 45:15.480 --> 45:21.000 there's so many people that i know that try and it just never ever ever works 45:21.000 --> 45:28.980 although one place that's pretty good to meet women well like for instance like i'm sure most of the 45:28.980 --> 45:32.100 people that are listening are in college or a lot of people that are listening are in college 45:32.100 --> 45:39.280 um classes like going and like having classes together with people you know and like meeting 45:39.280 --> 45:44.480 up with friends of friends and who knows you know that's always a good way to meet people 45:44.480 --> 45:50.300 there's a comment on the irc channels from riot and they say sub-zero is wrong girls don't dress 45:50.300 --> 45:55.220 slutty for action they do it for attention yeah they do do it for attention but their attention 45:55.220 --> 46:01.220 and their overall purpose is the fact that they want to have like either they're going so they can 46:01.220 --> 46:06.780 you know just like tease all the guys because like girls like to do that sometimes guys like 46:06.780 --> 46:11.720 to do it too uh but like other than that like i mean there's no i mean if they wanted the attention 46:11.720 --> 46:15.440 there there's a reason for the attention you know they want to be seen and they want to be 46:15.440 --> 46:19.760 hit on by guys and like that's the reason for going to the bars it's not like saying hey we're 46:19.760 --> 46:24.540 going to get in a relationship you know i mean like if they were serious about it they wouldn't be 46:24.540 --> 46:30.780 like they're ass hanging out of their like skirt and shit yeah one of the things that i see a lot 46:30.780 --> 46:38.840 is i see very long-distance relationships yes where people you know because it's it's the internet 46:38.840 --> 46:46.440 and people are so used to chatting online with people that they've never met in person i mean that 46:46.440 --> 46:51.020 not only do they meet in person and then get in a relationship and one of them has to move away 46:51.020 --> 46:56.080 so they do the long distance thing but i've seen situations where like they have never met in 46:56.080 --> 47:02.700 person and yet they are together yeah well like there's a problem i mean you can't actually be 47:02.700 --> 47:09.080 together together with somebody you've never really met and like i'm not going to mention any names but 47:09.080 --> 47:14.040 there's like some people that like have recently gone through through this and like have actually 47:14.040 --> 47:19.300 gone farther than just you know getting in a relationship i don't know if you know what i'm talking 47:19.300 --> 47:27.980 about so i'll i'll talk to you later about it anyhow um but i mean like the whole online 47:27.980 --> 47:34.080 relationship thing is a huge deal right now and like like honestly to me like i think it's really 47:34.080 --> 47:40.460 funny to an extent because like you're reading all these nobody has like a clear answer on like 47:40.460 --> 47:45.380 whether it's right or wrong you know and nobody can say whether something's right or wrong just by 47:45.380 --> 47:49.940 like i mean like if they haven't tried it you know don't knock it sort of thing but like the 47:49.940 --> 47:56.320 thing is i mean like who's to say i mean you can't bond in like a certain level or whatever with 47:56.320 --> 48:01.420 somebody that you've never met i mean physical attraction is part of relationship and like you 48:01.420 --> 48:07.260 know actually physically being there but i mean there's other parts of relationships like being on 48:07.260 --> 48:13.160 like same mental level or like like understanding each other and like i think to an extent there's 48:13.160 --> 48:18.060 like stuff that goes on like on the internet you know that you can talk to people and like and like 48:18.060 --> 48:22.780 you can get to know somebody and like who they are without actually judging them for like what they 48:22.780 --> 48:28.900 look like or like whatever so yeah oh no i totally agree it's it's a useful tool i mean i i do it myself 48:28.900 --> 48:35.620 but i think the difference is that you know if if you're like if you're local to each other and you see 48:35.620 --> 48:40.980 each other in person often enough you know then then chatting online is just a way to supplement 48:40.980 --> 48:46.240 that oh yeah definitely yeah and that's a good i mean you can there's a lot of people that like 48:46.240 --> 48:52.800 would normally not say half the stuff they say online you know like they like the internet seems to 48:52.800 --> 48:58.680 just like open people up you know there seems to be like this free talking will or something like 48:58.680 --> 49:02.800 i mean you can meet somebody in person and they'll be like shyest person ever and like you talk to 49:02.800 --> 49:08.180 my mind they could be like the craziest person ever oh yeah well i mean yeah the computer kind 49:08.180 --> 49:15.020 of removes that anxiety of having to be in front of a real person exactly so and like in a part i 49:15.020 --> 49:21.560 mean that that's good but also it's i mean it's not that good because you still need a like the 49:21.560 --> 49:27.720 physical interactions and like seeing people and like how they talk you know body language is a big 49:27.720 --> 49:33.480 issue so i mean you can't be like totally saying you're going to be in a relationship with somebody 49:33.480 --> 49:41.280 online that you've never met and like one of the things is like i can understand if there's obviously 49:41.280 --> 49:47.420 people like everywhere that have like their profiles and everything like that and myspace or facebook or 49:47.420 --> 49:53.500 whatever they're on and like the one thing like that my roommate and i like have always said is like 49:53.500 --> 49:57.960 okay if you're ever talking to somebody online just make sure that's them first you know before you 49:57.960 --> 50:04.000 like start saying like oh man i'm in love and like it's happened like people that i know you know 50:04.000 --> 50:10.460 they they'll like be talking to who they think is the pictures that are being sent to them and then 50:10.460 --> 50:17.520 like just like really find out that it's not you know not the person at all yeah so i mean it happens 50:17.520 --> 50:21.820 all the time so like that's one thing you want to like be careful of like if you're in this like 50:21.820 --> 50:27.000 online sort of dating style you know you just want to make sure you know who you're talking to and 50:27.000 --> 50:30.880 like be like be sure that the person you're talking to is actually who they say they are 50:30.880 --> 50:37.440 oh yeah well i mean it's so interesting i'm kind of an evil person for doing this but um craigslist 50:37.440 --> 50:44.900 has you know has personals which you know vary from you know the typical i'm looking for a date 50:44.900 --> 50:51.520 type of a thing to very much let's just hook up for sex yeah yeah and it's very interesting to troll 50:51.520 --> 50:58.320 the personals and post fake ads and see how people react to different things yeah i've told 50:58.320 --> 51:02.640 the personals before just to see but there's so i mean like there's so many funny things on there 51:02.640 --> 51:09.020 like they just give me some like entertainment sometimes i mean people say like the most random 51:09.020 --> 51:17.860 stuff oh yeah well in fact someone uh let me see someone posted this murdoch actually sent me a link 51:17.860 --> 51:23.540 that's the best craigslist ever and it's it's such a thing okay um 51:23.540 --> 51:30.380 wow oh god that's that's pretty hardcore for for our audience 51:30.380 --> 51:36.260 pretty pretty much it's someone who has a fetish for truck exhaust 51:36.260 --> 51:40.380 oh okay never mind i know where that's going 51:40.380 --> 51:48.960 yeah yeah okay yeah it's kind of crazy dude like i don't know some of these people are like just 51:48.960 --> 51:53.060 really really out there and you just have to what like you have to watch out you know 51:53.060 --> 51:59.040 make sure like you know i mean you can be talking like the nicest girl ever and like you meet her in 51:59.040 --> 52:03.500 person and she's like some dominatrix you know i mean you can't ever be too sure she might pull out 52:03.500 --> 52:07.740 the whip and like start hitting you and throw the handcuffs on you some guys really like that you 52:07.740 --> 52:13.400 know oh i'm sure there's i'm sure a lot of guys like that but you just got to be careful you never 52:13.400 --> 52:19.020 know yeah yeah you never know i guess it's only a bad thing if you're not looking for it what's that 52:19.020 --> 52:24.500 i said i guess it's only a bad thing if it's not what you want yeah no i know and like she can be a 52:24.500 --> 52:32.340 you know or he can be a she you're like you never know yeah well and anyone who's dishonest enough to 52:32.340 --> 52:38.880 uh to to pretend they're a different sex and and not tell you the truth you know it's probably not 52:38.880 --> 52:45.240 worth getting involved in a relationship with anyway yeah exactly exactly i find it interesting 52:45.240 --> 52:50.780 actually a lot of people feel the need to embellish little things online it's not like major lies to 52:50.780 --> 52:56.620 the point where you know the relationship if the lies were discovered to be lies and everything 52:56.620 --> 53:01.720 would fall apart but i i certainly i know people in person and i see their online profile and it 53:01.720 --> 53:07.740 seems like they've embellished more than a few things i usually like to keep it as straight as i 53:07.740 --> 53:14.180 can just because no pun intended but like i like to keep it straight as i can too just because like 53:14.180 --> 53:18.920 i mean you never know who you're gonna meet and like you never know i mean who is gonna like 53:18.920 --> 53:23.700 you know be like hey you know i recognize you and like you're just gonna end up talking to these 53:23.700 --> 53:27.420 people that you've never met but they've seen your profile somewhere which has happened to me i'm like 53:27.420 --> 53:32.580 a lot and like and like it's one of those things like if i just started lying and saying hey you know 53:32.580 --> 53:39.860 what i'm like six five you know and like have blonde hair blue eyes and i don't know i mean there's 53:39.860 --> 53:44.680 just some things you just don't want to lie about and like so like i just always try to keep it is 53:44.680 --> 53:49.920 and like i have no problem like talking about like who i am as a person and everything like that 53:49.920 --> 53:55.340 and like i'm open like even with my name you know most hackers are like oh my god you know 53:55.340 --> 53:59.600 his name's out there or whatever you know i'm like really don't care i have nothing to hide so 53:59.600 --> 54:05.340 oh yeah no so i mean i've i'm fairly open with my close friends about it the only reason that i 54:05.340 --> 54:11.220 adopted different public personas a so that the the stupid script kiddies don't start you know making my 54:11.220 --> 54:19.160 life hell and and be you know on the off chance that this is not my future that you know that i'm 54:19.160 --> 54:23.240 gonna do something else i don't want this coming back to bite me in the ass later on yeah that's 54:23.240 --> 54:28.140 true and like i don't know i have people that will take care of people stupid script kiddies 54:28.140 --> 54:34.920 yeah but actually it is pretty fun because you know sometimes people will like if you're on a date 54:34.920 --> 54:39.020 you can get referred to if the other person's cool enough you get referred to by your handle and by 54:39.020 --> 54:45.120 your real name yeah that's actually happened to me a couple times which is weird like i'll be like 54:45.120 --> 54:50.760 sitting there and like some like i was on a date once and and some guy from like a local meeting 54:50.760 --> 54:56.040 just came up and he's like hey what's up sub-zero and like she's like sub-zero and like she just didn't 54:56.040 --> 55:01.940 say anything at first and she was just really confused about it and she's like what the hell so 55:01.940 --> 55:06.280 then i had to go and like explain you know be like yeah well these guys know me as sub-zero i'm like 55:06.280 --> 55:14.160 i'm actually i don't know it's just weird but like i i find myself like always like if somebody 55:14.160 --> 55:19.880 says sub-zero anywhere like like i automatically like respond to it now it's like i've had the 55:19.880 --> 55:26.260 name for so long so oh yeah same with strom it's like you know it's it's so weird because it's not 55:26.260 --> 55:32.480 my real name and yet i still respond to it like it was my real name yeah it happens you know 55:32.480 --> 55:37.400 that could pose a problem like in your dating if you just start going by strom 55:37.400 --> 55:40.740 yeah i could 55:40.740 --> 55:48.980 but yeah i don't know there's i mean there's lots of situations and like there's so many different 55:48.980 --> 55:55.360 angles and so many things you know obviously like we're in like our second season we have like 55:55.360 --> 56:00.220 50 or 60 shows down and like we've never ran out of materials to talk about dating so 56:00.220 --> 56:04.840 it's like one of those vast subjects that is never going to end oh yeah 56:04.840 --> 56:12.740 well i mean we've got uh we've got a couple minutes left anything else interesting that uh 56:12.740 --> 56:13.840 that you want to bring up 56:13.840 --> 56:22.600 no not really so from from the end we never run out of things to say to oh my gosh we're running 56:22.600 --> 56:25.560 out of things to talk about well no no like i just didn't because there's so much to talk about 56:25.560 --> 56:29.400 like i can't just sit there and like talk about it for three minutes or four minutes or i don't 56:29.400 --> 56:34.160 even know how much time we have left so oh we've we've we've got you know at least 15 to 30 minutes 56:34.160 --> 56:40.960 left oh oh dude when you say running out of time i'm thinking like five minutes oh god no no no no no 56:40.960 --> 56:45.820 no oh oh well all right well then i'm going to talk about myspace because everybody seems to hate 56:45.820 --> 56:51.160 myspace but i love it yeah oh before we get into that there was i think i showed you myspace the 56:51.160 --> 56:57.280 movie yes yes that was great god that was actually yeah i actually uh tracked down the person that 56:57.280 --> 57:01.000 did the movie and like i'm going to get in touch with them i'm going to see if i can work on some 57:01.000 --> 57:06.440 projects actually we'll see yeah but what's what's funny is the whole movie ridicules myspace 57:06.440 --> 57:11.060 and and kind of joking you know lovingly pokes fun at everything then you you find the guy's 57:11.060 --> 57:16.900 website and you look at his photos and it's like the kind of stuff you'd find on myspace yeah yeah i 57:16.900 --> 57:20.680 know that's what's funny because like the opening sequence is like him taking pictures in like the 57:20.680 --> 57:25.640 mirror and like him taking pictures of himself like with his hair like all like you know 57:25.640 --> 57:31.540 every it's just really weird like all the typical myspace pictures that you'd see yeah so it's like 57:31.540 --> 57:38.180 i mean he's kind of making fun of himself in a sense you know but i don't know i enjoyed the 57:38.180 --> 57:44.460 movie thoroughly it was pretty cute yeah and like i don't know like i said most people hate myspace 57:44.460 --> 57:52.840 and like in general but i i love it dude it's like a great site cool i'm gonna get like 50 million 57:52.840 --> 57:58.880 hate mails but yeah but i mean like there's so much to the site i mean you have to want you have 57:58.880 --> 58:03.740 to look at it from like a different point of view i mean obviously as in like a privacy issue it's i 58:03.740 --> 58:09.260 mean yeah i mean you can look at it and say hey you know what you're violating your privacy or like 58:09.260 --> 58:13.900 people can violate your privacy and doing all this stuff but on the other hand like for me for instance 58:13.900 --> 58:18.460 like i have nothing to hide and like i'm only putting out like what i want people to put out 58:18.460 --> 58:22.640 obviously there's stupid people out there that like hey call my cell phone or like you know you have 58:22.640 --> 58:27.880 like all these girls that like get like harassed by all these people because like they actually 58:27.880 --> 58:31.560 don't release their cell phone numbers and like that you know that's just their own stupidity they 58:31.560 --> 58:37.140 need to learn somehow but i mean like my like the idea in general and like just the way the site is 58:37.140 --> 58:43.500 i mean it's just like a great idea like i don't know my roommate calls it the the ghetto of the 58:43.500 --> 58:49.380 internet the ghetto of the internet yeah and he calls it ego masturbation he's like anybody with a 58:49.380 --> 58:57.240 profile it's just all about the ego masturbation but and like i'll admit to it you know it's it's 58:57.240 --> 59:02.820 always good to get like the messages saying hey you're so hot or whatever and but you know what can 59:02.820 --> 59:10.000 you do yeah you're hot hot yeah yeah i've got a profile that's like i i barely touch i think i 59:10.000 --> 59:14.400 created it solely so i because you have to create you have to have a profile to look at people's photos 59:14.400 --> 59:19.540 online or something yeah someone only had his photos hosted on myspace i'm like okay i'll make 59:19.540 --> 59:24.720 an account and i made the account looked at the photos i'm like eh whatever and then i forgot about 59:24.720 --> 59:30.880 the account and then like two years later i start getting people saying uh hey so and so wants to be 59:30.880 --> 59:38.760 your friend like oh okay i i guess yeah and so now i'm very slowly getting sucked into the whole 59:38.760 --> 59:46.560 myspace debacle yeah well i accidentally dropped my myspace like i it was really like private and 59:46.560 --> 59:51.080 like closed in it for a while just because like i i was working on it and like i don't know and like 59:51.080 --> 59:56.420 i was only accepting friends that i knew but like i accidentally said my myspace on like my radio show 59:56.420 --> 01:00:01.320 geek club radio one time and like within the next couple weeks like now i have like 3 000 friends 01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:07.280 like most most like i don't even know who these people are it's just weird like i'll get like 01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:11.960 random messages from girls i've never met asking if i'm mad at them because i haven't talked to them 01:00:11.960 --> 01:00:19.420 and i'm like i don't even know you but like i don't know and it goes like for instance to like 01:00:19.420 --> 01:00:24.720 at my old like the old school that i was at before i transferred here to chicago it was uh it was funny 01:00:24.720 --> 01:00:30.200 because like a lot of the people in the area like had me added as friends and like i'd be walking around 01:00:30.200 --> 01:00:36.540 and people would like stop me and be like hey you're that kid on myspace and like it's happened to me 01:00:36.540 --> 01:00:41.140 like way more than like 10 times like at least on campus and it was just really weird 01:00:41.140 --> 01:00:47.480 that has never happened to me ever yeah being like semi-recognized because of myspace 01:00:47.480 --> 01:00:55.120 now i feel like yeah i feel used used how so no i'm kidding 01:00:55.120 --> 01:01:02.180 violated by myspace yeah i'm violated my my privacy has been violated oh my god 01:01:02.180 --> 01:01:11.000 yeah but like i don't know i love i just like the idea of the site like i'm big my biggest thing 01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:14.520 like i've always preached is networking with people because like you never know who you're 01:01:14.520 --> 01:01:18.080 going to meet and like you never know who's who you're going to meet that knows somebody you know 01:01:18.080 --> 01:01:23.400 and like the biggest thing that you can ever do and like not even like in relationships but just 01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:27.820 like in life in general you know and like trying to succeed in life is like networking with people 01:01:27.820 --> 01:01:33.580 because you don't know i mean like for instance like the other day like i was just randomly talking 01:01:33.580 --> 01:01:36.640 to somebody and they're like hey you know what i know this person they might be able to help you out 01:01:36.640 --> 01:01:40.980 next thing i know i'm having this big business deal that i can't talk about right now because 01:01:40.980 --> 01:01:47.920 of non-disclosure issues but like i mean i'm in this big business deal about like this thing i'm 01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:51.820 working on you know and it's like a lot of money that's going to be exchanged and it's all because 01:01:51.820 --> 01:01:55.620 like i talked to this person and like they're like hey you know i might know somebody that can help you 01:01:55.620 --> 01:02:01.340 out so i mean it's one of those things you can take it for what it's worth and be like yeah you 01:02:01.340 --> 01:02:05.420 know what it's a violation of privacy and like there's a whole bunch of issues around it and 01:02:05.420 --> 01:02:10.400 you know you're going to have always you're always no matter what you do online you're always going 01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:14.760 to have like privacy issues so like that's my main argument for people that are like oh privacy 01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:19.420 privacy but like if you're on the internet you know your privacy is pretty much like shot already i 01:02:19.420 --> 01:02:23.100 mean like even if you've been careful and like you're using proxies and shit like that you're 01:02:23.100 --> 01:02:28.920 always going to leave a trail of something behind so i mean it's not like to me people that preach 01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:33.220 that i don't know well i mean it's good to be concerned about your privacy but not to the point 01:02:33.220 --> 01:02:40.640 where it um it starts to interfere with your life yeah yeah and like to be honest i mean like look at 01:02:40.640 --> 01:02:47.140 it i mean nothing on the site you know is over i mean unless you volunteer information like nothing on 01:02:47.140 --> 01:02:51.920 the site is actually going to violate your privacy i mean you say what you want to say and like you put 01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:57.700 where you want to be you know you can't i mean you have total control so like people that complain 01:02:57.700 --> 01:03:01.920 that it's a privacy issue thing is like okay you know you have control over everything on the site 01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:06.660 so that's not really the issue i mean they don't even release your email you know so 01:03:06.660 --> 01:03:12.120 it's a privacy issue if you're an idiot exactly it's a privacy issue if you're an idiot 01:03:12.120 --> 01:03:15.160 so it's i don't know it's one of those things 01:03:15.160 --> 01:03:25.300 in the end i think like other sites have way bigger issues with privacy like that haven't even 01:03:25.300 --> 01:03:29.940 been talked about but like everybody's focusing on myspace yeah because it's easy it's like the big 01:03:29.940 --> 01:03:37.300 giant right now so yeah it's weird i mean it's like i don't know there's there's so much about 01:03:37.300 --> 01:03:45.400 myspace i don't get like i don't understand how people can have the web pages where the page pops 01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:50.960 up and it's the the huge animated blinking background that you can't read the text against 01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:58.320 and like 35 songs are playing at the same time and oh god that goes okay that goes back to the basic 01:03:58.320 --> 01:04:04.020 like everybody's first web page they built look like that i'm not gonna lie my page was like all 01:04:04.020 --> 01:04:09.360 blinky like every freaking like gif that looked cool that i could find i would like add it to my 01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:16.520 you know to my like geo cities website or whatever and like the thing is i mean that's just how it is 01:04:16.520 --> 01:04:21.100 i mean like all these little girls and like kids that like have never worked on web pages before and 01:04:21.100 --> 01:04:25.240 they're like oh my god this is so cool like they're not thinking practically like wow this is going to 01:04:25.240 --> 01:04:29.560 give a seizure to somebody but they're thinking like wow this kind of looks cool yeah i remember i was 01:04:29.560 --> 01:04:35.180 talking with somebody and they pointed me at their their page and it uh you know i wasn't really 01:04:35.180 --> 01:04:40.840 having a great time talking to them anyway and then so they pointed me at the page i said what the hell 01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:46.320 i'll go look and then i think my comment was oh okay so that's what happens when teletubbies explode 01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:53.380 yeah i mean but you gotta like understand like all these people don't know anything about computers or 01:04:53.380 --> 01:04:58.580 like design or anything in general they go to like one of those sites generates the code for them and 01:04:58.580 --> 01:05:06.680 they're just like go flash cool but anything here yeah exactly exactly a friend of mine was showing 01:05:06.680 --> 01:05:12.200 me some some hacks that he did where he was able to derive the person's actual whoever he was able 01:05:12.200 --> 01:05:17.780 to derive the user id of any myspace user who looked at his myspace account yeah yeah there's a lot of 01:05:17.780 --> 01:05:22.640 different uh scripts and codes out there that are like that are constantly i guess being worked on 01:05:22.640 --> 01:05:28.660 and modified there's that one kid uh man i even forget his channel right now somebody will remember 01:05:28.660 --> 01:05:34.400 um he had like the huge myspace like script that he that worm you know that he released 01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:41.540 that just added like five million people to his like buddy list but i don't know like if that if 01:05:41.540 --> 01:05:51.060 anything it's like a great playground to like mess with you know so cool so i think obviously we're 01:05:51.060 --> 01:05:57.360 we're kind of winding down in our material yeah i just had to get the myspace thing out oh yeah 01:05:57.360 --> 01:06:01.980 it's a great place for finding girls too i mean yeah old enough 01:06:01.980 --> 01:06:08.120 yeah i've used to do the uh the dating on myspace thing i'm just kind of like let it sit there and 01:06:08.120 --> 01:06:14.360 oh i've there are there are people that want to be my friend interesting so i should give that a shot 01:06:14.360 --> 01:06:23.020 and see what happens because i am single after all hey you know yeah yeah man it i've had like 01:06:23.020 --> 01:06:28.820 girls fight on my on my comment box area or whatever like just because like one of them will 01:06:28.820 --> 01:06:34.340 say something and they'll be like they're like no he likes me better it's just weird dude some of 01:06:34.340 --> 01:06:39.920 those people are really crazy in myspace i'm not gonna lie so yeah if you're gay and single and 01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:45.200 madly in love with me email radio at bittenrev.com if you're exactly if you're in the la area 01:06:45.200 --> 01:06:50.300 if you're in the la area and i'm like it's like one of those like tape you know yeah if you're in 01:06:50.300 --> 01:06:55.720 the la area and are gay and single and would like to date strom carlson send an email send that 01:06:55.720 --> 01:07:03.460 self-addressed stamped envelope to exactly that'd be hilarious i wonder how many responses you'll get 01:07:03.460 --> 01:07:12.160 yeah we'll see probably like none it happens it happens yeah or we'll get like a million joke 01:07:12.160 --> 01:07:20.460 responses but nothing real that sucks oh i one more thing before like we finish up or like we wrap 01:07:20.460 --> 01:07:26.800 wrapping things up i was gonna say okay this is gonna sound kind of like weird and like you know 01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:33.860 anyhow most people like you know how you'll have like non-attractive girls let's face it you know 01:07:33.860 --> 01:07:39.500 there's a lot of non-attractive girls or guys you know in that case out there and like one of the 01:07:39.500 --> 01:07:46.200 biggest things like that i've learned is never like just be mean to any of those girls i know it's 01:07:46.200 --> 01:07:51.400 really hard not to sometimes when like they just are like so annoying and you can't stand them but 01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:56.660 they're always gonna have like a hot friend that's like it's just like bound to happen like they 01:07:56.660 --> 01:08:01.040 always have the hot friend and like the moment you're mean to that person and like say you want 01:08:01.040 --> 01:08:05.140 to hook up with that friend later on you're screwed because like that mean girl's gonna be like no he 01:08:05.140 --> 01:08:11.100 was a bitch to me blah blah he you know you're screwed always be nice to to the fat girls and like 01:08:11.100 --> 01:08:16.300 the ugly girls because they're the ones that are going to get you dates later on in life you'll see 01:08:16.300 --> 01:08:21.340 nice it happens i promise you i'll take your word for it yes 01:08:21.340 --> 01:08:26.060 and then like we have a theory you know for every i don't know like who came up with this theory i 01:08:26.060 --> 01:08:32.000 think like in high school like way long ago like mid 90s when i was in high school that's kind of 01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:39.140 dating me anyhow um but like me and my friend kind of came up with this theory i don't know if it was 01:08:39.140 --> 01:08:45.020 around then or anything but like we always said that for every like every ugly girl has a hot friend 01:08:45.020 --> 01:08:51.220 and like it's true just the way it works we've got comments in the channel about uh 01:08:51.220 --> 01:08:56.900 what you're saying war says that is the worst reason i have ever heard to be nice to someone 01:08:56.900 --> 01:09:00.800 fuck you sub-zero that's mean like not even joking that's brutal 01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:07.480 dude you don't understand some of like the hottest girls that i've like dated or like been around 01:09:07.480 --> 01:09:13.580 have been because like i've been nice to like a girl and like some of these girls you know they'll 01:09:13.580 --> 01:09:18.120 want to date you or like they'll want to be like you know more than friends or something like that 01:09:18.120 --> 01:09:21.860 but you just have to be honest be like you know what i'm not interested you know i'm looking for 01:09:21.860 --> 01:09:25.400 a different sort of girl and as long as you're honest you know and like you're nice and like 01:09:25.400 --> 01:09:30.540 respectful and like i've seriously dated like some of the hottest girls because like they're like hey 01:09:30.540 --> 01:09:36.300 well i have a friend that might you know and like i'm like oh great you know i'm gonna meet their 01:09:36.300 --> 01:09:43.520 friend they're gonna be like 400 pounds like you are god but like no like and then i've gone on like 01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:49.200 dates with these people and it's just like supermodels i'm like holy shit you know so yeah 01:09:49.200 --> 01:09:54.120 like that's my advice you know just be nice to those people yeah i think be nice to everyone is 01:09:54.120 --> 01:09:59.740 just a good piece of advice to keep in mind for for life exactly you never know who you're gonna run 01:09:59.740 --> 01:10:05.180 into that guy that you like you're pissed off at you know in the front of the line could be the guy 01:10:05.180 --> 01:10:11.440 that's gonna interview you like next week for yeah exactly and you never know you go to the 01:10:11.440 --> 01:10:15.760 interview this is the job you really want like hey you're you're you're the guy who um 01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:27.860 who is calling my broad voice number hold on just a second hold please hello welcome to binary 01:10:27.860 --> 01:10:34.920 revolution radio and they hung up great so yeah the guy you meet in the front line might be the guy 01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:41.300 who calls your broad voice number exactly you never know you never know so be nice to people hey 01:10:41.300 --> 01:10:48.800 it really does help you know all right so i think we should probably uh we should probably 01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:53.760 wrap things up before our listeners get up the guns and blow their own brains out sounds good 01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:59.520 so let's let's see what's on the agenda for the end of the show 01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:08.000 so um announcements let's see uh if you're in the los angeles area dc213 that's friday 01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:14.200 don't forget to go to layer1.info and uh and register pre-register for layer one 01:11:14.200 --> 01:11:19.880 if you're in the los angeles area or if you're even not in the los angeles area and you want to 01:11:19.880 --> 01:11:24.760 come to a hacker convention in the spring in beautiful pasadena california 01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:31.480 trying to pimp out california are you oh i am i mean hell my friends run run the conference i figure 01:11:31.480 --> 01:11:39.720 i should uh you know if you're yeah i figure i should pimp it out i mean it is after all i'm 01:11:39.720 --> 01:11:43.700 speaking there so why wouldn't you want to come see it of course of course you'd want to trust me 01:11:43.700 --> 01:11:50.900 you're going to want to go see strong speech yeah yeah trust me like yeah it's it's awesome 01:11:50.900 --> 01:12:00.120 it just turns me on thinking about it do you have any announcements um nothing yeah not like 01:12:00.120 --> 01:12:07.380 nothing i can go public with right now so unfortunately it sucks but yeah um yeah no i don't have nothing 01:12:07.380 --> 01:12:13.800 now that i've finally turned a straight guy on for the first time um do we oh side of the week 01:12:13.800 --> 01:12:19.060 hmm uh i didn't pick one do you have a site that you'd like to make side of the week 01:12:19.060 --> 01:12:27.760 uh yeah have a geek club radio duh okay you can do my side of the week yeah what what is your url 01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:34.520 geeklove.net no geekloveradio.com geekloveradio.com yep cool cool and if you guys have any dating 01:12:34.520 --> 01:12:41.580 questions just email geekloveradio at gmail.com or richard at geekloveradio.com or we have a 01:12:41.580 --> 01:12:47.040 contact thing just jump on the website and fill out the forms and just push send and it'll send us 01:12:47.040 --> 01:12:55.900 the email so cool shout do you have any shouts uh my roommate adam that's couldn't make it on the 01:12:55.900 --> 01:13:04.460 show he wanted to but he's busy with some art stuff right now ah damn yeah all right yeah i'm i'm there 01:13:04.460 --> 01:13:11.560 are people in the irc channel demanding that i give them shouts but um i i think give a shout out 01:13:11.560 --> 01:13:17.620 to war because he called in yeah give a shout out to war for being our only caller yeah but um 01:13:17.620 --> 01:13:23.240 but no i'm gonna give a shout to uh to lance james who's been really really awesome this week 01:13:23.240 --> 01:13:26.400 he was on our show recently cool 01:13:26.400 --> 01:13:36.880 uh i'm gonna give a shout out to the city of chicago just because it rocks here and i'd invite 01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:42.360 anybody who wants to come out to chicago just you know and want to hang out just let me know 01:13:42.360 --> 01:13:48.940 he wants to hook up with all of you yes i want to hook up i'll i'll actually uh hook all you guys 01:13:48.940 --> 01:13:54.940 up with women out here because i have a lot of fashion shoots that i've been doing with a lot 01:13:54.940 --> 01:14:04.820 of hot models so so our closing music this week is uh i'm not quite sure how you pronounce this 01:14:04.820 --> 01:14:10.460 the the the name of the band is is three exclamation points all in a row 01:14:10.460 --> 01:14:18.800 it kind of sounds like ah in my head or something yeah it's like yeah i don't know it's a i don't have 01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:24.900 any uh any way to pronounce it it's just like shock you know it's like it's a facial expression 01:14:24.900 --> 01:14:35.660 yes so the great name for band what less dirty face no no no no just like the the fact that they're 01:14:35.660 --> 01:14:42.300 like just you know there's like no way to explain you know who they are yeah like you know that one 01:14:42.300 --> 01:14:48.660 band you know three exclamation points oh maybe that's i'm being told it's pronounced chick chick 01:14:48.660 --> 01:14:53.440 chick chick chick chick yeah which which doesn't make any sense because i would have pronounced 01:14:53.440 --> 01:15:02.900 it bang bang bang isn't there a song called bang bang bang yeah there's an animation i don't want 01:15:02.900 --> 01:15:08.240 to talk to you i just want bang bang i just want bang bang bang yeah we're saying it's pronounced 01:15:08.240 --> 01:15:15.960 ie yeah who knows all right just make up your own shit for it and then like yeah it'll be good 01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:24.160 so um the the name of the song is is this thing on i think yeah that's great sorry hello is this 01:15:24.160 --> 01:15:32.240 thing on great until i took awesome notes so um yeah seeing as this has been the biggest disaster 01:15:32.240 --> 01:15:37.440 of a valentine's day episode ever it's valentine's day it had to happen yeah it had to happen you 01:15:37.440 --> 01:15:46.180 all of us single dudes with bad luck yeah exactly so anyway we have been my radio we'll see you next 01:15:46.180 --> 01:15:49.260 week same hack time same hack channel 01:15:49.260 --> 01:15:51.260 you 01:15:51.260 --> 01:16:05.080 you 01:16:05.080 --> 01:16:10.080 you 01:16:10.080 --> 01:16:14.080 you 01:16:14.080 --> 01:16:32.900 you 01:16:32.900 --> 01:16:36.900 you 01:16:36.900 --> 01:16:55.720 you 01:16:55.720 --> 01:16:59.720 you 01:16:59.720 --> 01:17:22.540 you 01:17:22.540 --> 01:17:24.540 you 01:17:24.540 --> 01:17:47.360 you 01:17:47.360 --> 01:17:48.360 you 01:17:48.360 --> 01:17:49.360 you 01:17:49.360 --> 01:18:14.180 you 01:18:14.180 --> 01:18:16.180 you 01:18:16.180 --> 01:18:18.180 you 01:18:18.180 --> 01:18:41.000 you 01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:43.000 you 01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:45.000 you 01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:47.000 you 01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:48.000 you 01:18:48.000 --> 01:19:16.820 you 01:19:16.820 --> 01:19:17.820 you 01:19:17.820 --> 01:19:47.640 you 01:19:47.640 --> 01:19:47.760 you 01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:47.780 you 01:19:47.820 --> 01:19:48.220 you 01:19:48.220 --> 01:19:53.200 you 01:19:53.200 --> 01:19:53.780 you 01:19:53.780 --> 01:19:58.200 you 01:19:58.200 --> 01:20:01.780 you 01:20:01.780 --> 01:20:16.800 you 01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:17.560 you 01:20:17.560 --> 01:20:17.780 you 01:20:17.780 --> 01:20:17.800 you 01:20:17.820 --> 01:20:47.800 Don't you know, sometimes, I could just kill, sometimes, yeah, I could just kill, sometimes, 01:20:47.800 --> 01:21:17.780 yeah, I could just kill, sometimes, yeah, I could just kill, sometimes, yeah, I could just 01:21:17.800 --> 01:21:47.800 kill, sometimes, yeah, I could just kill, sometimes, yeah, I could just kill, sometimes, yeah, 01:21:47.800 --> 01:21:54.800 I could just kill, sometimes, yeah, I could just kill, sometimes, yeah, I could just kill, 01:21:55.020 --> 01:21:59.440 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 01:21:59.440 --> 01:22:03.500 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, guy, hey, hey, hey, 01:22:07.340 --> 01:22:15.760 I know, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey- 01:22:16.800 --> 01:22:24.140 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, aye, hey, hey, hey. hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. 01:22:24.140 --> 01:22:26.280 Everybody's acting like a... 01:22:26.280 --> 01:22:29.520 Everybody's acting like a fucking crazy or something. 01:22:30.400 --> 01:22:31.200 Like... 01:22:31.200 --> 01:22:32.800 Everybody's just... 01:22:32.800 --> 01:22:34.460 Everybody's just... 01:22:34.460 --> 01:22:39.080 Everybody's acting like a fucking crazy or something. 01:22:39.740 --> 01:22:40.540 Like a... 01:22:40.540 --> 01:22:41.880 Like a fucking... 01:22:41.880 --> 01:22:42.160 Out! 01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:43.080 Out! 01:22:44.360 --> 01:22:45.000 Get out of the room! 01:22:46.220 --> 01:22:48.880 Everybody's acting like a fucking crazy or something! 01:22:49.660 --> 01:22:50.040 You know what I mean? 01:22:50.780 --> 01:22:51.360 Is this right here? 01:22:52.120 --> 01:22:53.280 Is that it? 01:22:54.140 --> 01:22:55.260 The Messiah can get you? 01:22:55.560 --> 01:22:55.700 Shh! 01:22:57.640 --> 01:22:58.060 That's it? 01:23:02.940 --> 01:23:03.660 Ah! 01:23:03.800 --> 01:23:04.000 Ah! 01:23:11.060 --> 01:23:11.740 Uh! 01:23:14.940 --> 01:23:15.420 Uh! 01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:17.980 Uh! 01:23:17.980 --> 01:23:18.280 Uh! 01:23:18.280 --> 01:23:19.280 Uh! 01:23:19.280 --> 01:23:19.340 Uh! 01:23:19.340 --> 01:23:20.060 Uh! 01:23:20.060 --> 01:23:20.320 Uh! 01:23:20.320 --> 01:23:21.240 Uh! 01:23:21.240 --> 01:23:21.780 Uh! 01:23:21.780 --> 01:23:21.800 Uh! 01:23:21.800 --> 01:23:22.180 Uh! 01:23:22.440 --> 01:23:22.740 Uh! 01:23:22.740 --> 01:23:22.780 Uh! 01:23:22.780 --> 01:23:24.120 Uh! 01:23:24.140 --> 01:23:54.120 Thank you.