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This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers, to the hackers and the crackers.

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I see in binary, I speak source code, step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you

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in a fag pwned.

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In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho, cause I'm riding the net in my six foe.

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I was a dick with my 56, now with my cable I'm able to get that stable.

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On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo. On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero.

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In a flash, I'll screw you on burning dream caps.

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You need some ISO? Let me through my hard drive rifle.

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Our exchange you could never stifle.

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In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug.

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I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z.

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Your CG, it's all gonna be free, whether we take it by force or we take it nicely.

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You feel that rattle in your bones when I tell you we just hacked out Jones?

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And NASDAQ leaves your fight on your back, cause I am he who loves to hack and crack.

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Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack.

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This is dedicated to the hackers and the crew.

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Serial code, source code, ISO, and radio.

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Hello and welcome to Binary Revolution Radio, episode number 140 for March 21st, 2006.

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I'm Strom Carlson.

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I'm Black Ratchet, and with us this evening, we have two guests.

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Not so just fresh in from their interzone trip, but you know, hey, they had a week off, whatever.

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We have Droops.

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Hey, buddy.

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And we have Dr. Zygman.

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And we have Dr. Zygman.

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How's it going?

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Dr. Zygman, how's it going?

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You didn't say anything.

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Oh, it's definitely going well over on this side.

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It's always a pleasure to get a chance to join everybody on the radio show once again with three distinguished other individuals tonight.

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Very lucky for our audience.

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And we were having a discussion earlier.

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This is your first live show where you're actually on the show?

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That is true.

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There was that brief stint or stunt that Strom put me on the spot during the Valentine's Day shows.

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Everybody got to hear me doing my lame, what do I say whenever anybody calls?

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Binary Revolution Radio, this is Dr. Zygman.

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Do you have a question for Black Ratchet, Strom Carlson, and the rest of the crew tonight?

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Right on the radio.

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So, you know, and he's like, oh, we're going to get you a girlfriend.

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I'm like, great, thanks.

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With a line like that.

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Yeah, I actually say that.

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Are you kidding me?

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I've heard you answer the phone like that?

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Yeah, man, totally.

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Strom always likes to test me.

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He loves that.

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He'll call halfway through.

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Oh, I just want to make sure it was working.

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He loves to hear it.

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Wow, I didn't actually.

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That's amazing.

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We actually sound like we know what we're doing, which is just absolutely, completely and totally false.

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Oh, God, I'll get into that in the hacking stories.

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Christ.

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With a bin rev radio crew.

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Look at that.

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We're cool.

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Jukes, how are you this fine evening?

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Well, I am doing spectacularly well.

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As in, I slept all day and I just woke up.

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Brilliant.

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You keep very odd hours.

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Well, I try.

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Do you actually do that on purpose or do you actually just sleep very odd hours?

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Are we actually just like, you know, catching you on the right phase right now or are you actually supposed to stay up and sleep during the day?

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I predict 3 a.m. is what we're doing right now.

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Yeah, I don't really know.

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I just kind of sleep when I'm tired.

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It's a good time.

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You're like, what is it?

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Pete Greenblatt from MIT, one of the old school hackers.

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He used to like, basically, he used to be able to stay up 36 hours in a row and completely fall out like, you know, 12 hours out of sync every time he stayed up.

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I won't like 36 hours by now.

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Yeah.

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What's the point?

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Well, it was amusing because like people...

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Go ahead.

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We should all, you know, has anybody ever tried that polyphasic sleep?

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You know, where every four hours you sleep for half an hour?

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Yeah, right.

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No way.

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I'd like die.

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People are totally doing it.

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Oh, no, I heard of that.

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Just for that half hour, you're in REM sleep, so it's all you need.

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And think of all the extra time you would have.

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I mean, granted, you wouldn't be able to leave your house for more than four hours at a time.

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But, you know, that's a small price to pay to be able to hack the gifts all day long.

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I actually do tend to revert to that sometimes.

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I'll sleep like a couple hours, wake up, go for maybe five hours, go back to sleep for a few hours, wake up, go another five hours.

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You know, it's okay sometimes, but I don't think I can do it long term.

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Yeah.

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Well, is it that, I mean, it's just, you just need to, like, fall into, what is it, the, I mean, it's an extreme example of that with the whole polyphasic sleep thing, but with, oh, shoot, what do they call it?

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Where if you just, like, time your sleeping, well, no, you time your sleep correctly, where if you, like, always, because your sleep cycle, for those of you who don't know, I don't know how the hell we got on this topic.

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Damn you, droops.

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Your sleep cycle, for you don't know, you only, like, get rested in, like, you know, a small portion of your sleep, and to go through, like, you know, you go through a stage where you're asleep, but you're not actually resting, and then you go through a dream state, and then you go through the state where you're actually recharging your batteries, theoretically, and that's called REM.

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REM, and once REM stops, the cycle starts again, and the entire cycle takes about 90 minutes to complete, and if you are able to pop out of your sleep cycle right at the state of time, like, right after REM sleep kicks out, and right before your next cycle begins, you feel incredibly refreshed.

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Yeah, that's why you always feel really good when you wake up in the middle of dreams, because you're kind of toward, you wake up, you're waking up naturally at the end of the REM cycle, and it's awesome.

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Yes, exactly.

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Like, I remember, I mean, I know, like, a couple of times where I've just, I've only got, like, an hour and a half of sleep, and I'm just, like, when I wake up, I'm just, like, amazingly refreshed, and I'm like, ooh, okay, looks like I timed that correctly.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, so, anyway.

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Yeah, we, my wife and I experimented with that, and we took little naps all throughout the day, and it found the, it wasn't really helping, but we were actually, uh, getting carbon monoxide poisoning.

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That was what was causing it.

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So, it didn't really work out as well as we thought.

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So now you have a carbon monoxide detector in your house?

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Yes, yes.

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When you lay down on your kitchen floor, and then, like, your girlfriend comes by, and she's like, that's odd, and then lays down beside you and thinks that's a good idea,

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you should probably check the carbon monoxide levels in your house.

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Oh, this is a girlfriend time.

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You weren't quite, she wasn't quite, uh, stuck with you yet?

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Yeah, yeah.

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It was back when she was free.

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Oh, I could have had her.

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Oh.

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Yeah, don't let your fiancé hear this one.

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Yeah, I know.

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Yeah.

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I've actually come to the conclusion that I should no longer refer to you as Droops, I should refer to you as, um, Mrs. Droops' husband.

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I just think, I just think everyone, yeah, well, because I just, everyone knows it a whole lot better.

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Or Mr. Claire Huxtable.

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Mr. Claire Huxtable.

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You have to fear the Claire.

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Claire.

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Just make sure nobody mixes it up with an E-Claire.

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It's with a 4 and not a A.

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Yeah.

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You gotta leave time.

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Um.

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So, uh.

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Okay, so, we have a, we are, we are live tonight, just in case you didn't know.

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Actually, for some reason, I decided to be evil, and right on the, before we came on the show, I logged into the IRC channel and said,

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Sorry guys, there's no show tonight, you guys are all being dicks, and I'm not rewarding you with a show.

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And everyone's like, what?

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What did we do?

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And I was just like, God, you're all owned.

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I don't even know what the heck, like, came over me and why I did that, but, I don't know.

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I had, like, two or three people believing me.

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Oh, now you know how I feel at the time in the IRC channel.

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Yeah, that's what I always do.

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I just, like, you know, IRC's just this weird thing.

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Um, we, so, I guess we are kind of taking call-ins.

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We're not, we're not, apparently our, our completely wonderful, uh, receptionist there, Dr. Zygman, isn't going to be answering the phones with his trademark saying.

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But if you call 888-9-BIN-REV and you're waiting to queue, I might drop out while the rest of the three are going at it to pick you up.

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So, um, the three of us are going at it.

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That just sounds bad.

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You've got a far degree of mind than I do, Ratchet.

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Seriously.

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Yeah, we're going to have, we're going to have a little three-way on PIN-REV radio.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's funny, the one person who's excluded from it.

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Yeah, I know, the one, Strom would actually probably enjoy that kind of stuff.

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Yeah.

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Um, actually, I was listening to, I, I, I, I, I was, I was listening to the old shows.

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Actually, a friend of mine was listening to the old shows, and he made a comment that you say the word lube far too much.

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That was stank. You know, in like the last three shows, I've said the word lube at least once.

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Oh, okay, so it was stank? I couldn't remember who it was.

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Yeah, it was stank.

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Yeah, like, like, you, you, you, you, you say lube far too much, and I was listening to the show, you really do.

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So, I think you should apologize to the audience or something.

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I'm sorry, audience, for making you think of slippery wet things.

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That, that really, that just, that just went from bad to worse right there.

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Well, you asked me to apologize, so I did.

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I guess so.

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What's wrong with lube?

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Anyway, so, nothing's wrong with lube.

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Okay, that's what I was wondering.

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WD-40?

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Exactly.

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WD-40.

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Ooh, that's just sounds big.

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For the industrial lube.

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Hey, that stuff comes with a little straw, too, so you can always apply it in the right spot.

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We're just going, we went from bad doors right here.

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We have a UK call-in, and allegedly it still works.

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We're actually trying to, going to set up a real, honest-to-goodness, officially, direct-to-our-servers UK call-in.

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I think, actually, a couple people this week, the person I do remember was Nightlord, requested that we set up an FWT number.

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So, yeah, that'll be easy to do.

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I can take care of it.

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Yeah, yeah, the two people, too badly, like, they came up to me today and said, hey, you should really do this.

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And I said, well, I don't think we have time.

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And, um, because we were doing other things.

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But our UK call-in, 0845-646-0102.

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God save the queen.

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And maybe next week.

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Yeah, God save the queen.

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Actually, we should get, we should, when we get a UK call-in number, we should play, like, you know, some Sex Pistols right before it connects to the bridge.

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Is there, like, an official Queen song?

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Well, there's God save the queen.

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There's, I, I, what's the, what's the name of that song?

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Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.

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Flatbottom Girls.

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Oh, oh, yeah, yeah.

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I know what you're talking about.

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What's that called?

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Oh, I don't know.

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But, you know, you know, it's the dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

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Yeah, the very regal-sounding thing that's, like, it's a movie cliche that you must, like, you must show a shot of, of, uh, of, of London and play that song if you're introducing a scene in London.

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It makes me think of, uh, what movie was John Goodman in?

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Where he was the, uh, the King Ralph.

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King Ralph.

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That's what it, that's a, that's a classic movie right there.

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If there ever was a good movie.

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I fear King Ralph.

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God, it's been years since I've seen that one.

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It's on TNT all the time.

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Yeah, well, I don't own a TV set.

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Neither do I.

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What's your point?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So, for all you two, for, as Tiaxti said, for all those UK callers waiting up till 2.30 a.m. to listen to the show, that's your phone number.

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Call right in.

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Or for our, or for our crazy German caller from a couple, uh, from a German listener from a couple weeks ago, uh, want to try the UK number.

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Feel free.

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whatever

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oh I'm sorry

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the Jewish

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the Jewish kid

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got it wrong

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yeah the Meshugan

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and Jewish kid

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they can't speak

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oh man

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you know

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I can really say

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just like so many

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bad things right there

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but I'm not going to

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because I'll just be

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detrimental to both

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parties involved

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um

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I don't know

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do we have any other

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housekeeping things

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we want to talk about

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tonight

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I don't think so

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Not that I can think of.

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Our topic tonight is Interzone.

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We're going to have a sort of Interzone wrap-up.

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So if you do have Interzone stories, just call in and just wait for the hold

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and wait for Strom to come sweep you up and bring you onto the bridge and be enlightened.

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I'll sweep you off your feet.

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Yeah.

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Shall we go into the email?

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Yeah, let's do some emails.

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What was the version you suggested, Zygman?

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Of the radio song?

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Yeah.

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I don't remember.

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What was it?

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It was definitely...

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Droop, droop, droop, droop, droop is a noob at gmail.com or something like that.

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Something like that.

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I wonder if droop is a...

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yeah that was funny

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I like that

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yeah we should get

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troops as a noob

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at gmail.com

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and just use it

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with a space in it

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because gmail

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loves spaces

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yeah

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what happened

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with that

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wasn't there like

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some bug with gmail

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where you had a space

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in your name

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it was the dot

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oh it's the dot

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yeah it's the dot

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it doesn't differentiate

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like I've got

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stromcarlson

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at gmail.com

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but if you send

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strom.carlson

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at gmail.com

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it also comes to my inbox

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well we can call that

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the selection operator

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so we can all feel

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like we were important

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woot

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so

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since you just saved

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the email theme

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we probably should

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read some email

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really

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well we're talking

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about email

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and I figure that's

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what the email theme

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yeah go read

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yeah

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first email's

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from someone named

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Mark

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he says

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hi I'm creating

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a birthday calendar

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for myself

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can you please

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click on the link

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below and enter

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your birthday for me

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don't worry it's quick

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and you don't have

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to enter your year

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of birth

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tiny URL

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you're the

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phonetic alphabet

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person

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tinyurl.com

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slash

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fox

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november

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six five

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julien

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thanks

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Mark

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um

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yeah

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so

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this just

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popped into

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and I actually

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thought it was a

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spam for a while

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but I guess not

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I mean I didn't

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actually

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should have

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checked out

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that link

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actually I should

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have checked out

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that link

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before we gave it

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over the air

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shouldn't we

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if it was spam

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but um

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I believe Mark's

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actually sent us

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email before

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yeah if you

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send out like

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you know

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a couple of

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weeks ago

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how we were

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talking about

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someone who

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was you know

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sending us

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forwarding

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I think that

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was Mark

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as well

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so we

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decided to

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sort of you

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know give

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it out over

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the air

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there and

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tiny you

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just go out

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and give

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your birthday

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to Mark

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and I guess

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he'll send

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you lots of

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gifts or

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something so

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hey black

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ratchet

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what's your

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birthday

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I'm not

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going to

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tell you

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nobody knows

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my birthday

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I tell

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well actually

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I think it's

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on the

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I think it's

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on the forum

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I think I

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got drunk

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one night

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and put it

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on there

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it's probably

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in your

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who is

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information

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along with

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my social

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security number

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my phone

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number

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and uh

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oh let me

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drop it

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real quick

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that's another

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discussion

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extra paying

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extra money

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for domain

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let's not go

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there

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yeah that's

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annoying

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um

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what was it

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I was actually

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just like

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sort of off

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topic

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but it's

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kind of

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on topic

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but um

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talking about

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like you know

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mother's maiden

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names and

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everything

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and email

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uh

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it was on

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uh

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sands

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the internet

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storm center

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sands

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isc.sands.org

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and they were

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doing this

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phishing email

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and it was a

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phishing email

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sent to somebody

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and it had

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all of his

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information

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it's sort of

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like you know

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John Doe

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123 Main

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, Street

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Anytown, USA

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and it was

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like everything

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was like matched

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up correctly

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and if you went

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to the phishing

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site

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it actually

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um

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it like kept

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track of you

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it passed

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the session

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variable over

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to it

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and like it

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got everything

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on you

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it was asking

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you oh

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your mother's

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maiden name

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and you know

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social security

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number

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and it was

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it was creepy

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I mean

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I'd be amazed

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yeah I'd be

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amazed if like

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um

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I got an email

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from a phisher

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saying like you

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know oh

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this is all

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you know

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all your docs

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haha

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we know it

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and I'm like

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you know

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if I really

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think about it

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it's just a

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database

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with a bunch

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of your

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information

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and if you

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were to really

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get down to it

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let's think

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about it

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how hard

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would it be

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for somebody

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to listen

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to all of

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the radio

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shows

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and pick up

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the tidbits

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that you

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dropped

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and uh

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don't tell them

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this

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haha

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I'm gonna have

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the Strom

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Carlson fan club

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at my front door

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in two weeks

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now thanks to you

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no what

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the scary part

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was I mean

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for me yeah

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I guess I kind

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of like you know

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a public internet

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celebrity I guess

17:24.600 --> 17:25.840
but I mean

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this was just

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a random

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phisher

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and it probably

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sent out like

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you know

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a thousand

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or two emails

17:30.440 --> 17:30.940
and it had

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all of these

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you know

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had all of

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these people's

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docs on them

17:34.020 --> 17:34.940
and it was just

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like whoa

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no thank you

17:37.880 --> 17:39.340
I mean I

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know all this

17:40.000 --> 17:40.560
stuff is logged

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and everything

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but at the same

17:41.380 --> 17:42.120
point it's just

17:42.120 --> 17:43.200
wow

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I mean I

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I don't want

17:44.580 --> 17:44.980
no no it's

17:44.980 --> 17:45.440
kind of scary

17:45.440 --> 17:45.900
that phishers

17:45.900 --> 17:46.340
have all this

17:46.340 --> 17:46.760
information

17:46.760 --> 17:47.600
where's Lance

17:47.600 --> 17:47.840
James

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look at him

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back on the

17:48.580 --> 17:48.800
show

17:48.800 --> 17:50.820
oh my god

17:50.820 --> 17:52.020
what's what's

17:52.020 --> 17:52.520
up what's all

17:52.520 --> 17:52.940
these you know

17:52.940 --> 17:53.660
phishing noobs

17:53.660 --> 17:56.520
so anyway

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have we all

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added our

17:57.700 --> 17:58.220
birthdays to

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mark calendar

17:58.720 --> 17:59.040
yet

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I got sick

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of responding

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to all the

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all the fancy

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pants

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questions about

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can we

18:07.680 --> 18:08.180
interest you

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in this

18:08.700 --> 18:09.520
in this

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are you sure

18:10.100 --> 18:10.580
about that

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no really

18:11.200 --> 18:11.720
no

18:11.720 --> 18:12.400
seriously

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click this

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so I didn't

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go all the way

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through and I'm

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not sure

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whether

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whether my

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birthday is up

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there yet

18:17.940 --> 18:24.440
would you like

18:24.440 --> 18:24.920
the streaming

18:24.920 --> 18:25.780
home privacy

18:25.780 --> 18:26.780
invasion cam

18:26.780 --> 18:32.300
the wizard

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the w w w y c c r d

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it is I

18:37.620 --> 18:38.220
the wizard

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buffering

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buffering

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buffering

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all right

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our next email

18:42.740 --> 18:43.540
is from

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hantu

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yeah

18:45.300 --> 18:45.960
hana's and

18:45.960 --> 18:46.200
so

18:46.200 --> 18:47.020
hantu

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hana's and

18:48.720 --> 18:48.960
solo

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two isn't

18:49.580 --> 18:49.860
two

18:49.860 --> 18:51.020
strom and

18:51.020 --> 18:51.320
ratchet

18:51.320 --> 18:52.540
so I'm

18:52.540 --> 18:52.860
getting a

18:52.860 --> 18:53.120
cup of

18:53.120 --> 18:53.380
coffee

18:53.380 --> 18:53.620
at my

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local

18:53.880 --> 18:54.500
very large

18:54.500 --> 18:54.980
bookstore

18:54.980 --> 18:55.420
bnn

18:55.420 --> 18:56.120
near my

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place at

18:56.480 --> 18:56.800
work at

18:56.800 --> 18:57.000
lunch

18:57.000 --> 18:57.240
and what

18:57.240 --> 18:57.540
do I see

18:57.540 --> 18:57.720
on the

18:57.720 --> 18:58.220
magazine rack

18:58.220 --> 18:58.460
near the

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checkout

18:58.740 --> 18:59.520
blacklisted

18:59.520 --> 19:00.400
411 magazine

19:00.400 --> 19:01.640
i was amazed

19:01.640 --> 19:02.000
this is the

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first time

19:02.320 --> 19:02.580
i've seen

19:02.580 --> 19:02.900
it on the

19:02.900 --> 19:03.240
shelf and

19:03.240 --> 19:03.620
hoping there

19:03.620 --> 19:04.020
will be more

19:04.020 --> 19:04.380
issues to

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come

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i'm also

19:05.340 --> 19:05.700
hoping that

19:05.700 --> 19:06.020
my fellow

19:06.020 --> 19:06.540
listeners will

19:06.540 --> 19:06.880
go out and

19:06.880 --> 19:07.400
grab a copy

19:07.400 --> 19:07.920
if people

19:07.920 --> 19:08.440
don't buy it

19:08.440 --> 19:08.800
the bookstore

19:08.800 --> 19:09.180
won't keep

19:09.180 --> 19:09.820
carrying it

19:09.820 --> 19:10.460
since the

19:10.460 --> 19:10.700
crew at

19:10.700 --> 19:11.220
blacklisted

19:11.220 --> 19:11.940
401 pay

19:11.940 --> 19:12.400
folks to

19:12.400 --> 19:12.900
write articles

19:12.900 --> 19:13.360
it's also a

19:13.360 --> 19:13.720
good way to

19:13.720 --> 19:14.100
support the

19:14.100 --> 19:14.600
hacking community

19:14.600 --> 19:15.060
at large

19:15.060 --> 19:16.040
including stank

19:16.040 --> 19:16.360
who has an

19:16.360 --> 19:16.840
article in there

19:16.840 --> 19:17.480
this time around

19:17.480 --> 19:18.500
rock on

19:18.500 --> 19:18.940
hantu

19:18.940 --> 19:21.460
i actually think i

19:21.460 --> 19:22.280
deleted the second

19:22.280 --> 19:22.760
part of that

19:22.760 --> 19:23.740
email oh well

19:23.740 --> 19:24.660
yeah

19:24.660 --> 19:25.660
sorry hantu

19:25.660 --> 19:26.600
yeah your note

19:26.600 --> 19:27.540
says strom and

19:27.540 --> 19:28.060
i'm just like

19:28.060 --> 19:29.360
what's specific

19:29.360 --> 19:31.360
about this yeah

19:31.360 --> 19:32.160
yeah you

19:32.160 --> 19:32.740
actually offered

19:32.740 --> 19:33.320
strom to take

19:33.320 --> 19:34.060
pictures of the

19:34.060 --> 19:35.300
stromberg carlson

19:35.300 --> 19:36.960
factory well

19:36.960 --> 19:37.900
hey hang on

19:37.900 --> 19:38.900
just just a

19:38.900 --> 19:39.500
second here i

19:39.500 --> 19:40.200
can pull it up

19:40.200 --> 19:41.100
from our

19:41.100 --> 19:42.680
wonderful uh

19:42.680 --> 19:44.160
email client

19:44.160 --> 19:44.900
yeah i probably

19:44.900 --> 19:45.840
copied them

19:45.840 --> 19:46.920
blacklist has

19:46.920 --> 19:47.340
been on the

19:47.340 --> 19:48.120
racks for for

19:48.120 --> 19:48.760
quite a while

19:48.760 --> 19:49.540
now definitely

19:49.540 --> 19:50.380
at least a

19:50.380 --> 19:50.700
couple of

19:50.700 --> 19:51.260
months i know

19:51.260 --> 19:51.620
they've been

19:51.620 --> 19:52.160
they've been

19:52.160 --> 19:52.640
working pretty

19:52.640 --> 19:53.560
hard to uh

19:53.560 --> 19:54.300
try to get

19:54.300 --> 19:54.880
their their

19:54.880 --> 19:55.620
readership out

19:55.620 --> 19:56.380
it'd be nice

19:56.380 --> 19:57.020
i mean usually

19:57.020 --> 19:58.400
i i don't want

19:58.400 --> 19:59.000
to i would

19:59.000 --> 19:59.520
never say

19:59.520 --> 19:59.980
anything bad

19:59.980 --> 20:00.720
about blacklisted

20:00.720 --> 20:01.340
but there's

20:01.340 --> 20:02.020
always there's

20:02.020 --> 20:02.460
always at least

20:02.460 --> 20:02.960
a couple of

20:02.960 --> 20:03.600
really good

20:03.600 --> 20:04.180
articles in

20:04.180 --> 20:05.000
it and then

20:05.000 --> 20:05.500
it almost

20:05.500 --> 20:05.980
seems like a

20:05.980 --> 20:06.340
little bit of

20:06.340 --> 20:07.360
fluff but

20:07.360 --> 20:08.100
there's always

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it's always

20:08.660 --> 20:09.620
worth picking

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up oh

20:10.340 --> 20:10.920
yeah same

20:10.920 --> 20:11.180
thing with

20:11.180 --> 20:11.920
2600 you

20:11.920 --> 20:12.180
know there's

20:12.180 --> 20:12.580
always like

20:12.580 --> 20:13.020
one or two

20:13.020 --> 20:13.700
really great

20:13.700 --> 20:14.160
articles and

20:14.160 --> 20:14.540
the rest are

20:14.540 --> 20:15.000
like yeah

20:15.000 --> 20:16.340
but uh

20:16.340 --> 20:16.640
blacklisted

20:16.640 --> 20:17.160
yeah i mean

20:17.160 --> 20:18.600
the blacklisted

20:18.600 --> 20:19.220
guys are based

20:19.220 --> 20:19.840
out of southern

20:19.840 --> 20:20.580
california here

20:20.580 --> 20:20.800
and they're

20:20.800 --> 20:21.200
really awesome

20:21.200 --> 20:22.020
people yeah

20:22.020 --> 20:22.360
here's the

20:22.360 --> 20:22.740
second half

20:22.740 --> 20:23.160
of the email

20:23.160 --> 20:23.860
it says

20:23.860 --> 20:24.500
strom i live

20:24.500 --> 20:25.000
in rochester

20:25.000 --> 20:25.600
new york and

20:25.600 --> 20:25.840
i've been

20:25.840 --> 20:26.340
meaning to send

20:26.340 --> 20:26.920
you photos of

20:26.920 --> 20:27.380
the stromberg

20:27.380 --> 20:28.040
carlson building

20:28.040 --> 20:28.360
which is

20:28.360 --> 20:29.120
approximately two

20:29.120 --> 20:29.640
miles from my

20:29.640 --> 20:30.620
house if you

20:30.620 --> 20:31.140
like photos of

20:31.140 --> 20:31.600
the building let

20:31.600 --> 20:32.000
me know what

20:32.000 --> 20:32.500
address you would

20:32.500 --> 20:32.940
like them sent

20:32.940 --> 20:33.520
to i thought you

20:33.520 --> 20:33.960
might like to

20:33.960 --> 20:34.480
see the brick

20:34.480 --> 20:35.140
and mortar version

20:35.140 --> 20:35.880
of your namesake

20:35.880 --> 20:36.920
send an email

20:36.920 --> 20:38.060
over the air

20:38.060 --> 20:38.620
where i can send

20:38.620 --> 20:39.120
you pics if you're

20:39.120 --> 20:40.100
interested rock on

20:40.100 --> 20:41.700
hantu so yeah

20:41.700 --> 20:42.400
hantu just send

20:42.400 --> 20:42.880
them on over to

20:42.880 --> 20:43.660
stromcarlson at

20:43.660 --> 20:45.380
gmail.com go to

20:45.380 --> 20:46.180
my website and

20:46.180 --> 20:46.920
there's the email

20:46.920 --> 20:47.480
address right on

20:47.480 --> 20:48.060
the front there

20:48.060 --> 20:49.540
or send them to

20:49.540 --> 20:50.120
the p.o. box

20:50.120 --> 20:51.020
send them to

20:51.020 --> 20:51.980
post office box

20:51.980 --> 20:57.700
yeah general

20:57.700 --> 20:58.300
delivery southern

20:58.300 --> 20:58.900
california

20:58.900 --> 20:59.460
sir you have to

20:59.460 --> 21:00.040
come all the way

21:00.040 --> 21:00.600
to the downtown

21:00.600 --> 21:01.240
building on

21:01.240 --> 21:01.820
vigness street

21:01.820 --> 21:02.520
what no

21:02.520 --> 21:06.480
um yeah no

21:06.480 --> 21:07.540
blacklisted 401 is

21:07.540 --> 21:08.620
okay um

21:08.620 --> 21:09.340
personally i let my

21:09.340 --> 21:10.100
subscription lapse

21:10.100 --> 21:12.280
because i just

21:12.280 --> 21:13.360
they they have

21:13.360 --> 21:14.260
odd things with

21:14.260 --> 21:14.580
one of their

21:14.580 --> 21:15.780
issues and i

21:15.780 --> 21:16.220
just looked at

21:16.220 --> 21:16.940
it as you know

21:16.940 --> 21:17.680
i'll pick it up

21:17.680 --> 21:18.260
when it comes out

21:18.260 --> 21:18.980
onto my bookshelf

21:18.980 --> 21:20.640
but like i saw

21:20.640 --> 21:21.960
a blast like

21:21.960 --> 21:23.840
in defcon 12

21:23.840 --> 21:25.520
yeah 12 yes

21:25.520 --> 21:26.840
defcon 12 i mean

21:26.840 --> 21:28.580
they had a in

21:28.580 --> 21:29.120
the vendor room

21:29.120 --> 21:29.800
they had a like

21:29.800 --> 21:30.480
a table set up

21:30.480 --> 21:30.840
and it was like

21:30.840 --> 21:32.220
blacklisted 411

21:32.220 --> 21:33.020
you know we're

21:33.020 --> 21:33.840
starting back up

21:33.840 --> 21:34.340
blah blah blah

21:34.340 --> 21:34.680
blah blah blah

21:34.680 --> 21:35.860
and i said wow

21:35.860 --> 21:36.460
look at that a

21:36.460 --> 21:37.360
southern california

21:37.360 --> 21:38.080
hacking zine

21:38.080 --> 21:41.100
and um i i said

21:41.100 --> 21:42.140
oh god i'll never

21:42.140 --> 21:43.060
see this in boston

21:43.060 --> 21:44.040
i'll probably no

21:44.040 --> 21:44.780
i'll go i'll go

21:44.780 --> 21:45.160
give them like

21:45.160 --> 21:45.580
it was like 20

21:45.580 --> 21:46.080
bucks for a year

21:46.080 --> 21:46.600
subscription i

21:46.600 --> 21:47.560
said oh i'll go

21:47.560 --> 21:48.200
plunk down 20

21:48.200 --> 21:48.840
bucks for that you

21:48.840 --> 21:50.080
know i opted to

21:50.080 --> 21:50.940
do that rather than

21:50.940 --> 21:51.360
give it to the

21:51.360 --> 21:52.320
eff so oh

21:52.320 --> 21:54.780
well um and

21:54.780 --> 21:55.540
you know i i

21:55.540 --> 21:56.300
subscribed to it

21:56.300 --> 21:58.860
and like they

21:58.860 --> 21:59.420
say okay well

21:59.420 --> 21:59.840
we'll get the

21:59.840 --> 22:00.400
magazine i mean

22:00.400 --> 22:00.980
here's all your

22:00.980 --> 22:01.700
old magazines

22:01.700 --> 22:02.240
we'll start your

22:02.240 --> 22:02.860
subscription out

22:02.860 --> 22:03.260
and we'll probably

22:03.260 --> 22:03.780
won't get it out

22:03.780 --> 22:05.040
to you in you know

22:05.040 --> 22:05.620
a couple months

22:05.620 --> 22:06.100
and i said okay

22:06.100 --> 22:06.600
that's fine

22:06.600 --> 22:08.060
and you know

22:08.060 --> 22:08.800
sure shooting like

22:08.800 --> 22:09.220
two or months

22:09.220 --> 22:09.880
later comes in

22:09.880 --> 22:11.140
the mail and

22:11.140 --> 22:12.000
it was actually

22:12.000 --> 22:12.820
very odd to get

22:12.820 --> 22:13.660
an email package

22:13.660 --> 22:14.480
listed to black

22:14.480 --> 22:15.080
ratchet and i was

22:15.080 --> 22:15.560
like what

22:15.560 --> 22:22.580
and so i get up

22:22.580 --> 22:23.000
and i was like

22:23.000 --> 22:23.500
okay this is

22:23.500 --> 22:25.000
pretty good and

22:25.000 --> 22:25.660
sure enough like

22:25.660 --> 22:26.260
a couple of days

22:26.260 --> 22:27.060
later i'm in

22:27.060 --> 22:28.000
borders which is

22:28.000 --> 22:28.660
right across from

22:28.660 --> 22:30.000
my work like a

22:30.000 --> 22:31.720
block away and i

22:31.720 --> 22:32.260
look at the right

22:32.260 --> 22:33.460
next to 2600 and

22:33.460 --> 22:34.220
sure enough there's

22:34.220 --> 22:35.400
blacklisted 411 and

22:35.400 --> 22:36.200
i was like what

22:36.200 --> 22:38.100
wow are they

22:38.100 --> 22:38.800
actually playing them

22:38.800 --> 22:39.380
right next to each

22:39.380 --> 22:40.720
other oh yeah

22:40.720 --> 22:41.620
no right next to

22:41.620 --> 22:43.660
each other cool

22:43.660 --> 22:44.520
it's pretty sweet

22:44.520 --> 22:47.620
blacklisted it's

22:47.620 --> 22:48.120
nice because it

22:48.120 --> 22:49.500
has a nice variety

22:49.500 --> 22:50.260
of things it's not

22:50.260 --> 22:52.100
all it's not all

22:52.100 --> 22:53.200
really hardcore

22:53.200 --> 22:54.220
technology and

22:54.220 --> 22:54.640
computers they

22:54.640 --> 22:55.760
always have i think

22:55.760 --> 22:56.440
the last article i

22:56.440 --> 22:57.480
read in actually

22:57.480 --> 22:58.180
the one that i got

22:58.180 --> 22:58.920
from defcon had

22:58.920 --> 23:00.100
one from a girl

23:00.100 --> 23:01.400
who uh who was

23:01.400 --> 23:02.740
married to a hacker

23:02.740 --> 23:03.880
and it's another

23:03.880 --> 23:05.420
perspective on that

23:05.420 --> 23:06.140
well she's married

23:06.140 --> 23:07.060
man what good can

23:07.060 --> 23:08.040
she be now she's

23:08.040 --> 23:10.080
already taken but

23:10.080 --> 23:11.220
uh granted she's

23:11.220 --> 23:11.780
probably gonna hear

23:11.780 --> 23:12.440
this show and now

23:12.440 --> 23:13.280
gonna hate me but

23:13.280 --> 23:13.940
i liked your

23:13.940 --> 23:14.900
article it's good

23:14.900 --> 23:16.620
but uh i think it's

23:16.620 --> 23:17.520
always nice to get

23:17.520 --> 23:18.020
more than one

23:18.020 --> 23:19.080
perspective especially

23:19.080 --> 23:19.780
if you can get it in

23:19.780 --> 23:20.720
one in one

23:20.720 --> 23:21.740
periodical you know

23:21.740 --> 23:22.420
the more people

23:22.420 --> 23:23.320
that the more

23:23.320 --> 23:24.540
viewpoints and

23:24.540 --> 23:25.560
etc etc you can get

23:25.560 --> 23:27.140
from one one source

23:27.140 --> 23:27.860
is always a good

23:27.860 --> 23:30.900
thing i'm sure my

23:30.900 --> 23:31.520
fiancee doesn't

23:31.520 --> 23:32.240
like the fact that

23:32.240 --> 23:33.520
i know for a fact

23:33.520 --> 23:34.500
my fiancee does not

23:34.500 --> 23:35.240
like the fact that i

23:35.240 --> 23:36.120
i leave every

23:36.120 --> 23:37.100
tuesday night to do

23:37.100 --> 23:38.980
the radio show she

23:38.980 --> 23:40.000
just goes like you're

23:40.000 --> 23:40.660
doing your stupid

23:40.660 --> 23:41.680
radio show again aren't

23:41.680 --> 23:43.240
you yeah all

23:43.240 --> 23:45.660
oh okay she finds

23:45.660 --> 23:46.120
it amusing

23:46.120 --> 23:51.440
um i guess we can

23:51.440 --> 23:52.120
talk about her i

23:52.120 --> 23:52.660
don't know i mean

23:52.660 --> 23:53.480
they'll all she'll

23:53.480 --> 23:54.200
she'll probably be

23:54.200 --> 23:55.620
coming to me with me

23:55.620 --> 23:56.300
to hope

23:56.300 --> 23:58.080
sweet

23:58.080 --> 24:00.700
yes we get to meet

24:00.700 --> 24:01.880
the future mrs ratchet

24:01.880 --> 24:03.420
well at that point

24:03.420 --> 24:04.460
she will be mrs ratchet

24:04.460 --> 24:05.000
oh okay

24:05.000 --> 24:06.360
yes

24:06.360 --> 24:07.520
now i feel bad for

24:07.520 --> 24:07.740
you

24:07.740 --> 24:08.380
what i haven't gotten

24:08.380 --> 24:09.040
a wedding invitation

24:09.040 --> 24:09.780
yet jeez

24:09.780 --> 24:12.000
no no wedding

24:12.000 --> 24:12.740
invitations no wedding

24:12.740 --> 24:13.440
invitation for everybody

24:13.440 --> 24:13.920
we're going to get

24:13.920 --> 24:14.380
married

24:14.380 --> 24:16.580
underground cave

24:16.580 --> 24:18.380
ah so you're into

24:18.380 --> 24:18.480
that

24:18.480 --> 24:19.060
actually we

24:19.060 --> 24:20.400
we yeah well no

24:20.400 --> 24:21.600
we we we did get

24:21.600 --> 24:22.560
married we did get

24:22.560 --> 24:23.360
we did meet over the

24:23.360 --> 24:24.260
internet i we were we

24:24.260 --> 24:24.900
were i was the

24:24.900 --> 24:27.040
pioneer that uh you

24:27.040 --> 24:27.840
know we we did the

24:27.840 --> 24:28.740
whole online meeting

24:28.740 --> 24:31.520
thing and uh for the

24:31.520 --> 24:32.560
longest time we actually

24:32.560 --> 24:33.680
never talked about that

24:33.680 --> 24:36.260
no no no it was uh

24:36.260 --> 24:37.680
aol love or whatever

24:37.680 --> 24:38.540
love at aol or

24:38.540 --> 24:38.880
something

24:38.880 --> 24:40.260
oh no

24:40.260 --> 24:43.060
now it was actually

24:43.060 --> 24:43.740
it's amazing

24:43.740 --> 24:46.620
um

24:46.620 --> 24:50.220
well this was when

24:50.220 --> 24:51.120
they were like 12 or

24:51.120 --> 24:51.480
something

24:51.480 --> 24:52.380
this was when they

24:52.380 --> 24:53.860
also had a modicum of

24:53.860 --> 24:54.820
when they were hourly

24:54.820 --> 24:58.100
no no no it was after

24:58.100 --> 24:59.460
hourly it was i do

24:59.460 --> 25:00.140
remember that do you

25:00.140 --> 25:00.980
remember like compu

25:00.980 --> 25:01.800
serve i remember

25:01.800 --> 25:03.180
compu serve i remember

25:03.180 --> 25:03.980
i remember

25:03.980 --> 25:04.640
do you remember when

25:04.640 --> 25:05.500
compu serve came up

25:05.500 --> 25:06.060
with wow

25:06.060 --> 25:07.480
oh god

25:07.480 --> 25:08.200
oh god

25:08.200 --> 25:09.280
i was a wow member

25:09.280 --> 25:10.120
i have a t-shirt

25:10.120 --> 25:10.940
that says wow

25:10.940 --> 25:11.860
when they cancel the

25:11.860 --> 25:12.560
service they realize

25:12.560 --> 25:13.500
how dumb it was

25:13.500 --> 25:14.780
yeah no i remember

25:14.780 --> 25:15.860
seriously before that

25:15.860 --> 25:16.700
i remember getting the

25:16.700 --> 25:17.940
the aol floppy disk in

25:17.940 --> 25:19.280
the mail right and it

25:19.280 --> 25:21.240
was 10 free hours of

25:21.240 --> 25:22.380
online service and i

25:22.380 --> 25:24.180
was so totally you

25:24.180 --> 25:25.340
know psyched about it

25:25.340 --> 25:26.420
but i was so scared

25:26.420 --> 25:27.440
of spending more money

25:27.440 --> 25:28.220
than the 10 free hours

25:28.220 --> 25:29.520
that i literally had

25:29.520 --> 25:30.740
this log book that i

25:30.740 --> 25:32.420
would manually log my

25:32.420 --> 25:33.480
log on and log off

25:33.480 --> 25:34.500
times and tabulate how

25:34.500 --> 25:35.420
much time i had left

25:35.420 --> 25:37.100
what was it wasn't it

25:37.100 --> 25:37.860
like three bucks an

25:37.860 --> 25:38.100
hour

25:38.100 --> 25:39.720
it was some absolutely

25:39.720 --> 25:40.740
ridiculous amount of

25:40.740 --> 25:41.040
money

25:41.040 --> 25:42.660
dude well

25:42.660 --> 25:44.060
well it was like you

25:44.060 --> 25:44.880
know you got like x

25:44.880 --> 25:45.880
amount of free hours

25:45.880 --> 25:48.240
and then but you if you

25:48.240 --> 25:49.100
went into like you know

25:49.100 --> 25:51.560
certain areas you you

25:51.560 --> 25:52.080
would like you know

25:52.080 --> 25:52.780
start getting charged

25:52.780 --> 25:53.540
extra and that's what

25:53.540 --> 25:54.560
killed compu serve for

25:54.560 --> 25:55.860
my parents because i

25:55.860 --> 25:56.660
used to hang out in the

25:56.660 --> 25:57.700
chat rooms all the time

25:57.700 --> 25:59.720
and they used to be like

25:59.720 --> 26:00.880
you know a buck an hour

26:00.880 --> 26:02.460
and i'd be like uh chat

26:02.460 --> 26:03.020
rooms

26:03.020 --> 26:06.220
um but way back in the

26:06.220 --> 26:07.180
day oh it was nice they

26:07.180 --> 26:08.100
had that little bug with

26:08.100 --> 26:09.120
the uh the members help

26:09.120 --> 26:09.860
screen because i used to

26:09.860 --> 26:10.960
play federation that was

26:10.960 --> 26:12.680
the best game on aol but

26:12.680 --> 26:13.540
if you were to go into

26:13.540 --> 26:14.400
their little help area

26:14.400 --> 26:15.180
where they don't charge

26:15.180 --> 26:16.420
you your characters would

26:16.420 --> 26:17.880
still stay online in any

26:17.880 --> 26:19.120
of the online games but

26:19.120 --> 26:19.780
you wouldn't be charged

26:19.780 --> 26:20.400
at the time

26:20.400 --> 26:22.300
well that that's what

26:22.300 --> 26:23.400
that's what aol hell did

26:23.400 --> 26:25.120
god aol hell i remember

26:25.120 --> 26:26.220
that it would basically

26:26.220 --> 26:27.600
you know you you you'd

26:27.600 --> 26:28.700
get in the members only or

26:28.700 --> 26:29.500
whatever it is and then

26:29.500 --> 26:30.460
you'd you'd bring up

26:30.460 --> 26:31.280
another screen one of

26:31.280 --> 26:32.180
the free areas and it

26:32.180 --> 26:33.100
would like pass the it

26:33.100 --> 26:34.240
would like signal back to

26:34.240 --> 26:35.600
the application hey this

26:35.600 --> 26:36.740
person's over here don't

26:36.740 --> 26:38.120
charge them don't pay

26:38.120 --> 26:38.840
attention to the fact that

26:38.840 --> 26:39.500
i have all these other

26:39.500 --> 26:43.020
windows open so that was

26:43.020 --> 26:43.220
amazing

26:43.220 --> 26:43.640
i don't like being able to

26:43.640 --> 26:44.720
have people say other

26:44.720 --> 26:45.860
things in channel and it

26:45.860 --> 26:47.060
looks like uh not channel

26:47.060 --> 26:48.000
i guess they were aol chat

26:48.000 --> 26:49.040
rooms you know how you

26:49.040 --> 26:50.260
can make somebody else as

26:50.260 --> 26:51.220
if they'd say something

26:51.220 --> 26:52.720
yeah

26:52.720 --> 26:55.360
oh i do remember that

26:55.360 --> 26:57.320
that was classic

26:57.320 --> 26:58.380
good old time

26:58.380 --> 26:59.760
talk about skiddy tools i

26:59.760 --> 27:00.600
was probably what like

27:00.600 --> 27:00.960
nine

27:00.960 --> 27:02.880
yeah god that was

27:02.880 --> 27:03.360
probably like

27:03.360 --> 27:05.560
nineteen ninety four or

27:05.560 --> 27:06.280
five or something

27:06.280 --> 27:08.220
i guess it was like nine

27:08.220 --> 27:09.700
god yeah it must have

27:09.700 --> 27:10.080
been eleven

27:10.080 --> 27:13.540
fourteen thirteen

27:13.540 --> 27:14.020
thereabouts

27:14.020 --> 27:15.100
either way

27:15.100 --> 27:16.160
good times

27:16.160 --> 27:17.860
our next email is from

27:17.860 --> 27:18.380
trem

27:18.380 --> 27:20.800
yeah and trem says i

27:20.800 --> 27:22.100
have a question how does

27:22.100 --> 27:23.460
ssh send a cipher key to

27:23.460 --> 27:24.480
the client to the connected

27:24.480 --> 27:25.700
client couldn't you then

27:25.700 --> 27:26.720
just sniff for it making

27:26.720 --> 27:27.700
ssh unsecure

27:27.700 --> 27:29.380
much love trem

27:29.380 --> 27:31.840
well we're going to

27:31.840 --> 27:33.180
sort of give a gloss

27:33.180 --> 27:34.560
right over it i actually

27:34.560 --> 27:35.260
think i mentioned the

27:35.260 --> 27:36.520
book like last week was

27:36.520 --> 27:37.740
called last week or the

27:37.740 --> 27:38.700
week before crypto by

27:38.700 --> 27:40.040
steven levy and it

27:40.040 --> 27:42.120
explains how um rsa and

27:42.120 --> 27:42.920
ssh and public

27:42.920 --> 27:44.300
cryptography works and

27:44.300 --> 27:45.220
this is going to be a

27:45.220 --> 27:46.580
very crash course for it

27:46.580 --> 27:47.540
um

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when you actually break it

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down ssh has four cipher

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keys and if i'm probably

27:52.700 --> 27:53.440
going to get this wrong and

27:53.440 --> 27:54.220
if i do get it wrong i

27:54.220 --> 27:55.140
apologize in advance

27:55.140 --> 27:56.680
but teoxy is just like

27:56.680 --> 27:57.220
you know sitting there

27:57.220 --> 27:57.860
listening to the stream

27:57.860 --> 27:59.200
going oh he's going to

27:59.200 --> 27:59.900
screw this up but i'm

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going to lay him based

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him in irc tomorrow

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um ssh basically has

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four keys um each side

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has something called a

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public key and a private

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key now when one side

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wants to encode something

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over to the other side

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it encodes it with the

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other side's public key

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now once it's encoded the

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only thing that can decode it

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is that other person's

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private key hopefully that

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we know of i mean we're

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not going to like say

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this right now the only

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thing that should be able

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to code is the other

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side's private key um

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i do believe there's

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also another key in there

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as well uh something

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that's called the k key

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and that is a random key

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that's used for each

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session so that you do

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not have uh so that you

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have better forward

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secrecy yes yeah i was

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going to get into that

28:43.700 --> 28:45.200
actually now when we're

28:45.200 --> 28:46.360
talking well i would

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not mean you just

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basically you covered it

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so it wasn't a big deal

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um so what this basically

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is is something called

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asymmetric which is public

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and private key now this

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is different than

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symmetric encryption what

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symmetric encryption is like

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you know say i want to

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send a secret message over

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to dr zigman and basically

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i just yeah we're 13 we're

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in junior high and we're

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like um oh rod 13 rod 13

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yeah that's what rod 13 is

29:12.320 --> 29:14.900
it's a symmetric encryption as

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in each letter means

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something else and all you

29:18.120 --> 29:19.300
need to know is that super

29:19.300 --> 29:21.260
secret encryption key to

29:21.260 --> 29:22.620
decode it and and that's

29:22.620 --> 29:23.660
easily sniffable because

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symmetric encryption is

29:25.620 --> 29:26.960
that the same key is used

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i believe to encrypt it

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and decrypt it yes exactly

29:30.760 --> 29:31.660
didn't i just say that

29:31.660 --> 29:32.680
oh i thought you were

29:32.680 --> 29:33.300
saying something else

29:33.300 --> 29:37.060
perhaps i was wrong i

29:37.060 --> 29:38.140
don't know maybe i'm

29:38.140 --> 29:38.940
sort of just like bumbling

29:38.940 --> 29:40.220
over it so yes but that's

29:40.220 --> 29:41.200
what symmetric means the

29:41.200 --> 29:42.580
same key is used to encrypt

29:42.580 --> 29:44.320
and decrypt so the problem

29:44.320 --> 29:45.800
is is that if you sniff that

29:45.800 --> 29:46.900
key much like you were

29:46.900 --> 29:47.600
talking about before

29:47.600 --> 29:48.840
everything is insecure

29:48.840 --> 29:49.780
because you can decrypt

29:49.780 --> 29:50.980
everything now at the

29:50.980 --> 29:51.960
public and the private key

29:51.960 --> 29:53.100
the public key you can send

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to everybody and your

29:54.560 --> 29:55.540
private key is the one you

29:55.540 --> 29:56.760
want to keep under you know

29:56.760 --> 29:57.860
lock and key because if

29:57.860 --> 29:58.760
someone gets your private

29:58.760 --> 30:00.260
key everything that's sent

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to you encoded with your

30:01.200 --> 30:02.660
private key the attacking

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party can also decode because

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they know your private key

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so

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exactly we weren't going to

30:10.960 --> 30:12.040
get into that but thank you

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yes of course what it is

30:13.120 --> 30:15.640
teoxy wants us to uh as he

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says verbatim in all capital

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letters mind you you better

30:18.140 --> 30:19.200
mention the caching of the

30:19.200 --> 30:19.980
host key bitch

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yes i thank you very much i

30:22.900 --> 30:23.480
know

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is that what that little

30:24.940 --> 30:25.940
warning means where i just

30:25.940 --> 30:26.700
always click yes

30:26.700 --> 30:28.460
yeah you know the one the

30:28.460 --> 30:29.700
little bullet i have right

30:29.700 --> 30:31.140
below again it says man in

30:31.140 --> 30:32.600
the middle warning yes look at

30:32.600 --> 30:32.860
that

30:32.860 --> 30:34.580
now initially when you connect

30:34.580 --> 30:39.000
up to a ssh session and you

30:39.000 --> 30:40.300
don't know the other person's

30:40.300 --> 30:41.900
private key it says this

30:41.900 --> 30:43.580
person has this public i'm

30:43.580 --> 30:44.660
sorry did i say public or

30:44.660 --> 30:45.880
private when you first

30:45.880 --> 30:47.360
connect up to i'm sorry when

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you first connect up to an

30:48.380 --> 30:50.340
ssh session you don't know

30:50.340 --> 30:51.280
the other person's public

30:51.280 --> 30:53.260
key but ssh takes care of

30:53.260 --> 30:54.220
this for you and it prompts

30:54.220 --> 30:55.900
you hey i don't know this

30:55.900 --> 30:58.420
host um this is the person's

30:58.420 --> 30:59.480
public key and it gives you

30:59.480 --> 31:01.080
like this little alphabet soup

31:01.080 --> 31:04.900
of uh letters and hex um and

31:04.900 --> 31:06.100
it says do you want me to

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remember this so basically if

31:08.980 --> 31:10.980
if you i mean most people

31:10.980 --> 31:12.880
just say yes but like you

31:12.880 --> 31:13.760
know if you're smart you

31:13.760 --> 31:15.120
actually make sure that that

31:15.120 --> 31:16.740
is that person's public key or

31:16.740 --> 31:17.780
that that's computer's public

31:17.780 --> 31:20.000
key i have my public key for

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my two computers that i you

31:21.240 --> 31:23.460
know use a lot from other

31:23.460 --> 31:24.760
various other workstations

31:24.760 --> 31:27.040
um memorized i know i actually

31:27.040 --> 31:28.760
sat down and memorized it so i

31:28.760 --> 31:29.980
can actually i can quickly look

31:29.980 --> 31:31.500
at it and say you know oh

31:31.500 --> 31:32.580
yeah that's my public key i

31:32.580 --> 31:34.160
know that one if it comes back

31:34.160 --> 31:35.120
something different something

31:35.120 --> 31:38.220
fishies up um once you say yes

31:38.220 --> 31:39.460
that's the person's public key

31:39.460 --> 31:41.300
you know accept it it it saves

31:41.300 --> 31:44.040
it locally to your computer so

31:44.040 --> 31:45.180
say for example if someone's

31:45.180 --> 31:47.800
trying to sniff it and you have

31:47.800 --> 31:49.120
it in a train out they try to

31:49.120 --> 31:50.280
give you a different public key

31:50.280 --> 31:53.340
you get this giant uh warning on

31:53.340 --> 31:54.660
your computer saying you know

31:54.660 --> 31:56.120
something fishy is going on this

31:56.120 --> 31:57.460
person's public key has changed

31:57.460 --> 31:59.720
um like for example i reinstalled

31:59.720 --> 32:01.100
one of my computers and the

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public key changed because it

32:02.360 --> 32:03.900
wasn't you know public private on

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my land um no one was going to

32:05.620 --> 32:07.460
connect to it besides me uh when i

32:07.460 --> 32:08.820
reconnected to it it remembered

32:08.820 --> 32:10.100
its old public key but it

32:10.100 --> 32:13.540
actually ish gave my um ssh client

32:13.540 --> 32:17.820
a new public key so um you know

32:17.820 --> 32:18.960
i got this you know giant warning

32:18.960 --> 32:19.960
saying you know something fishy

32:19.960 --> 32:21.180
is going on the public key has

32:21.180 --> 32:23.760
changed i said yeah that's fine i

32:23.760 --> 32:25.540
know that i because i reinstalled it

32:25.540 --> 32:26.520
you know you know accept the new

32:26.520 --> 32:29.040
public key remember that one um you

32:29.040 --> 32:31.400
know for example but if um like one

32:31.400 --> 32:32.900
of my other public key change and i

32:32.900 --> 32:34.500
didn't do anything to it something

32:34.500 --> 32:35.740
weird's going on and probably

32:35.740 --> 32:38.340
someone's trying to own me so i

32:38.340 --> 32:40.060
hope i hope that of meets you know

32:40.060 --> 32:42.220
you know teoxy approval there gets

32:42.220 --> 32:44.680
a little seal right there um stamp

32:44.680 --> 32:47.220
for approval the stamp for approval

32:47.220 --> 32:50.240
yes um really good book on

32:50.240 --> 32:51.660
cryptography if it's somebody that

32:51.660 --> 32:53.280
somebody's interested in it's a

32:53.280 --> 32:54.760
little dated but it's still an

32:54.760 --> 32:55.940
excellent resource it's applied

32:55.940 --> 32:58.000
cryptography by uh i believe it's

32:58.000 --> 33:00.600
bruce spencer and uh he does not

33:00.600 --> 33:01.960
only an excellent job of talking about

33:01.960 --> 33:04.540
each individual form of encryption and

33:04.540 --> 33:06.700
secrecy but also how it's been how

33:06.700 --> 33:09.380
it's been compromised and uh all that

33:09.380 --> 33:11.080
interesting stuff there so there's a

33:11.080 --> 33:12.380
there's a free plug for applied

33:12.380 --> 33:13.600
cryptography it's a great book it's

33:13.600 --> 33:15.000
kind of expensive but it's still a

33:15.000 --> 33:17.400
very good book and i'm going to just

33:17.400 --> 33:21.640
sort of toss it out there um with uh

33:21.640 --> 33:24.180
you know uh let's try that again

33:24.180 --> 33:25.160
i'm going to toss it out there

33:25.160 --> 33:27.200
steven levy crypto um it's a pretty

33:27.200 --> 33:28.580
good book it's not as technical but it

33:28.580 --> 33:29.720
gives you a nice history of

33:29.720 --> 33:31.920
cryptography and how everything uh run

33:31.920 --> 33:33.240
around you actually get to learn all

33:33.240 --> 33:34.860
the alphabet soup sitting out there

33:34.860 --> 33:40.780
like you know des and rsa and um pgp

33:40.780 --> 33:42.900
and all that crazy stuff i'm just like

33:42.900 --> 33:46.960
hacksores the uh exactly the uh x-rated

33:46.960 --> 33:50.600
uh oh wow what a classic video that is

33:50.600 --> 33:51.580
i don't think we should get into that

33:51.580 --> 33:51.880
either

33:51.880 --> 33:55.640
all right i'll go i'll actually go read

33:55.640 --> 33:57.500
our next email it's from a battery man

33:57.500 --> 33:59.940
and it's it's it's a very it's a very

33:59.940 --> 34:01.620
good email i just want to toss it out

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here just to uh give everyone the infos

34:04.760 --> 34:08.180
um am gives you more range since the

34:08.180 --> 34:10.920
signal strength is higher than fm here's

34:10.920 --> 34:12.820
the best transmitter for the job part 15

34:12.820 --> 34:15.800
http colon slash slash part 15 dot us

34:15.800 --> 34:21.500
slash node slash six nine two how about

34:21.500 --> 34:23.840
doing pirate radio and wi-fi at one

34:23.840 --> 34:26.960
watt set up several streams and make the

34:26.960 --> 34:29.940
ssid something like quote pirate radio

34:29.940 --> 34:32.140
one nine two dot one six eight dot two

34:32.140 --> 34:34.340
dot ten colon eight thousand those are

34:34.340 --> 34:37.520
hyphens not dot oh whatever i'm sort of

34:37.520 --> 34:39.700
my eyes are going anyway oh christ

34:39.700 --> 34:44.540
um check out this whole check out this

34:44.540 --> 34:47.260
channel six tv spectrum for fm broadcast

34:47.260 --> 34:47.900
page

34:47.900 --> 34:51.360
http colon slash slash lpfm dot

34:51.360 --> 34:54.980
ws i did read that right slash news

34:54.980 --> 34:58.100
slash channel six dot php why is channel

34:58.100 --> 35:00.180
six better for fm radio the main reason

35:00.180 --> 35:01.940
is desirability of the channel to be

35:01.940 --> 35:04.340
used for dtv in many markets since there

35:04.340 --> 35:08.040
are so many vhf stations on dial the only

35:08.040 --> 35:09.960
place where transition stations could be

35:09.960 --> 35:12.360
placed as a uhf spectrum since these

35:12.360 --> 35:13.920
stations already have big investment

35:13.920 --> 35:16.940
into their dtv facilities on uhf it would

35:16.940 --> 35:18.180
not make a lot of sense to completely

35:18.180 --> 35:22.000
remove their dtv facilities on uhf and

35:22.000 --> 35:25.120
build new dtv facilities on vhf also due

35:25.120 --> 35:26.680
to propagation characteristics on the

35:26.680 --> 35:29.200
low band vhf channels tv channels two

35:29.200 --> 35:31.620
three six dtv is not desirable on these

35:31.620 --> 35:33.080
channels due to its lack of tolerance to

35:33.080 --> 35:35.780
noise etc also if the broadcaster decides

35:35.780 --> 35:39.120
to move their dc dtv facilities to vhf while

35:39.120 --> 35:41.240
competing stations in a mercenary own are

35:41.240 --> 35:44.340
on uhf pardon me oh no much better

35:44.340 --> 35:48.700
it puts vhf dtv stations at a competitive

35:48.700 --> 35:51.140
disadvantage dtv channel six stations will

35:51.140 --> 35:52.900
be required to protect their non-commercial

35:52.900 --> 35:55.620
educational fm operating stations stations

35:55.620 --> 35:57.940
operating on 82 to 92 fm because of this

35:57.940 --> 36:00.840
requirement the fcc did not allocate dtv

36:00.840 --> 36:04.260
channel six to many communities the most

36:04.260 --> 36:06.600
important reason is that 30 fm channels

36:06.600 --> 36:08.220
would be created out of channel six

36:08.220 --> 36:10.000
spectrum could hold a potential of

36:10.000 --> 36:12.020
thousands of new non-commercial community

36:12.020 --> 36:14.000
broadcast stations versus a small number

36:14.000 --> 36:16.180
of full power and low power tv stations

36:16.180 --> 36:18.860
here's the best broadcast query seat for

36:18.860 --> 36:23.600
radio and fm tv uh www.recnet.com slash

36:23.600 --> 36:27.580
charlie charlie delta bravo sierra slash

36:27.580 --> 36:33.480
foxtrot mike quebec dot php and find a spot

36:33.480 --> 36:35.980
on the dial with a sandy slate and it's the

36:35.980 --> 36:38.620
same url oh sorry same url with the

36:38.620 --> 36:41.820
exception of the last part which is lima

36:41.820 --> 36:47.960
papa fox mike dot php battery man and um i

36:47.960 --> 36:49.460
sort of read out the whole email there but

36:49.460 --> 36:51.480
uh i if you go to that first url i gave

36:51.480 --> 36:54.260
it's a very sorry second url i gave it's

36:54.260 --> 36:55.960
a very interesting thing on uh channel

36:55.960 --> 36:58.400
six digital tv and low power fm and

36:58.400 --> 37:02.080
uh actually the the um for for those of

37:02.080 --> 37:03.980
you don't know we're actually no longer

37:03.980 --> 37:07.340
being broadcast on the fm dial um evil

37:07.340 --> 37:09.140
dashi retired his pirate radio station

37:09.140 --> 37:11.860
which i actually found very sad but he

37:11.860 --> 37:14.000
uh did manage to get his ham radio

37:14.000 --> 37:15.520
license and he just decided you know

37:15.520 --> 37:17.440
since i was actually officially licensed

37:17.440 --> 37:21.400
by the fcc um that he would wash his

37:21.400 --> 37:23.420
hands as it were the pirate radio scene

37:23.420 --> 37:25.960
which personally i think is pretty safe

37:25.960 --> 37:29.140
okay

37:29.140 --> 37:31.100
wasn't that just last week

37:31.100 --> 37:34.760
actually yeah well just he just emailed

37:34.760 --> 37:37.940
me today saying you know oh you know

37:37.940 --> 37:39.960
we're not we're not gonna i i i just got

37:39.960 --> 37:41.460
my license i'm sorry i'm not gonna do it

37:41.460 --> 37:43.380
anymore i'm like oh well whatever

37:43.380 --> 37:47.340
so yes he's no like this

37:47.340 --> 37:49.680
and modulate this biatch

37:49.680 --> 37:55.200
troops did you die on us at troops

37:55.200 --> 37:56.640
troops fell off i'm trying to get him

37:56.640 --> 37:56.920
back

37:56.920 --> 37:59.060
oh that's so sad

37:59.060 --> 38:01.340
i was wondering why the heck he wasn't

38:01.340 --> 38:01.660
talking

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come back

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troops

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no

38:04.180 --> 38:09.000
anyway dr zygman

38:09.000 --> 38:10.520
since you actually

38:10.520 --> 38:12.620
actually i've never seen you include

38:12.620 --> 38:14.140
this in your notes with your personal

38:14.140 --> 38:14.760
hacking stories

38:14.760 --> 38:16.080
but um

38:16.080 --> 38:18.680
you you have something labeled here

38:18.680 --> 38:20.180
web crawler goodness

38:20.180 --> 38:22.540
oh web crawler goodness

38:22.540 --> 38:24.400
this is uh everybody's been hearing me

38:24.400 --> 38:25.700
talk about this stupid search engine

38:25.700 --> 38:26.500
for fucking ever

38:26.500 --> 38:28.300
oh uh for freaking ever

38:28.300 --> 38:30.380
and uh

38:30.380 --> 38:31.780
actually we're not on the radio anymore

38:31.780 --> 38:32.800
say fuck all you want

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fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

38:34.140 --> 38:35.220
oh in that case

38:35.220 --> 38:37.040
i don't see what the big fucking deal

38:37.040 --> 38:37.760
is

38:37.760 --> 38:38.580
but uh

38:38.580 --> 38:40.020
it's it's

38:40.020 --> 38:41.920
it's the crawler back end

38:41.920 --> 38:43.120
for my search engine

38:43.120 --> 38:44.780
well you know long story short

38:44.780 --> 38:45.900
it was working

38:45.900 --> 38:47.160
and it was working pretty well

38:47.160 --> 38:48.180
except for there was

38:48.180 --> 38:49.960
there was a bug in it somewhere

38:49.960 --> 38:50.760
that it just

38:50.760 --> 38:52.000
it just kept coming down

38:52.000 --> 38:53.940
it would only run for about 15-20 minutes

38:53.940 --> 38:55.160
and then it would crash

38:55.160 --> 38:57.620
it was tough to find out exactly what the problem was

38:57.620 --> 38:58.720
because you know i'd be running

38:58.720 --> 39:00.940
30 some odd instances

39:00.940 --> 39:02.460
of forge processes

39:02.460 --> 39:04.140
and to try to debug that

39:04.140 --> 39:05.200
you know it's just not fun

39:05.200 --> 39:07.200
so i ended up starting to rewrite it from scratch

39:07.200 --> 39:08.520
using all the uh

39:08.520 --> 39:09.420
the things that i've learned

39:09.420 --> 39:10.420
in recent days

39:10.420 --> 39:11.440
uh

39:11.440 --> 39:12.440
probably the

39:12.440 --> 39:13.780
the latest thing that i got done

39:13.780 --> 39:14.260
was

39:14.260 --> 39:16.360
a really cool way in c

39:16.360 --> 39:17.620
to process

39:17.620 --> 39:19.920
a robots.txt file

39:19.920 --> 39:21.240
which is the robot exclusion

39:21.240 --> 39:22.080
uh

39:22.080 --> 39:23.720
robot exclusion protocol

39:23.720 --> 39:24.220
uh

39:24.220 --> 39:26.480
pearl has a couple of really good modules for it

39:26.480 --> 39:28.420
but nobody really had anything for c

39:28.420 --> 39:30.300
so i'm thinking i might make this

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uh

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uh

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maybe not the entire robot

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but definitely at least this uh

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uh

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the robot exclusion part

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uh

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into a little module

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not a module

39:38.940 --> 39:40.260
but a little bit of a header file

39:40.260 --> 39:41.280
so that people could use it

39:41.280 --> 39:42.020
but uh

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it's nice and fast

39:42.960 --> 39:44.140
it works for unix

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and it actually

39:44.780 --> 39:46.300
it comes with a little reaper

39:46.300 --> 39:47.740
who makes sure that uh

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none of the uh

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robot files are older than

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a uh

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older than a week or so old

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it's pretty cool

39:53.920 --> 39:54.880
and uh

39:54.880 --> 39:56.520
i hope to finally finish this crawler

39:56.520 --> 39:57.260
by the end of the week

39:57.260 --> 39:58.540
and then when that's done

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i'm gonna try to probably announce

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the actual site

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of the search engine

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so that people can check it out

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and break it

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and let me know how they did it

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so they can fix it

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there's a whole bunch of bugs

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or not bugs

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uh

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features

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hidden all over the site

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for people to

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to check out and find

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so

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that should be

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pretty cool

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when it's coming up

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crush dr zygman's bot

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by clicking the wrong link

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woo

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yeah actually

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you know

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i don't really think

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you can do much

40:27.440 --> 40:28.120
against the bot

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and that's always been

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an interesting question

40:29.940 --> 40:30.540
of like

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maybe if we found

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a vulnerability

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in google's bot

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that we could build it

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into an html

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into a webpage

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and when it crawled it

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something would happen

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and i still would love

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to see somebody do that

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i would love to see it happen

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but it's such

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i don't know

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i mean that would be

40:46.320 --> 40:47.000
a tough one

40:47.000 --> 40:48.120
definitely

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well i mean

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i forget what the term

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they use for it is

40:52.220 --> 40:52.440
but

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i mean technically

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there is a vulnerability

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out there

40:55.800 --> 40:56.720
well sort of

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it was a vulnerability

40:57.440 --> 40:58.640
with google search engine

40:58.640 --> 41:00.120
i mean all these people

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what they would do

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is when

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oh shoot

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what is it

41:05.140 --> 41:06.240
when they see

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google bombing

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basically

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they basically

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yeah well

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it wasn't google bombing

41:09.400 --> 41:09.680
but

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you know

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if you're trying to

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you know

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raise your listing up

41:14.960 --> 41:16.000
what you would do

41:16.000 --> 41:16.620
is you'd basically

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include a nice little

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if statement

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in right before your page

41:19.260 --> 41:19.920
saying you know

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if this is a normal user

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coming to see my site

41:23.160 --> 41:24.580
give them the real site

41:24.580 --> 41:26.160
if it's not a normal user

41:26.160 --> 41:27.060
and it's google bot

41:27.060 --> 41:28.720
make my site look like

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it has all these

41:29.460 --> 41:30.840
crazy ass words on it

41:30.840 --> 41:31.520
so it makes my

41:31.520 --> 41:32.740
site index look better

41:32.740 --> 41:34.600
interesting

41:34.600 --> 41:36.620
there's a million different

41:36.620 --> 41:37.360
strategies

41:37.360 --> 41:38.260
in the whole

41:38.260 --> 41:39.780
how to get good rankings

41:39.780 --> 41:40.320
in google

41:40.320 --> 41:41.160
etc etc

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but you know

41:42.580 --> 41:43.300
i really

41:43.300 --> 41:45.100
i think there's only

41:45.100 --> 41:45.860
a handful of people

41:45.860 --> 41:46.640
who really know

41:46.640 --> 41:47.400
how it works

41:47.400 --> 41:48.980
like for sure

41:48.980 --> 41:49.880
and i would love

41:49.880 --> 41:50.480
to see like

41:50.480 --> 41:51.080
all the speculation

41:51.080 --> 41:51.640
we have

41:51.640 --> 41:52.440
but at the end of the day

41:52.440 --> 41:53.500
sometimes i'm

41:53.500 --> 41:54.540
absolutely astounded

41:54.540 --> 41:55.340
with some of the sites

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that are number one

41:56.500 --> 41:57.420
that it just doesn't

41:57.420 --> 41:58.100
look like the site's

41:58.100 --> 41:58.940
not a quality site

41:58.940 --> 41:59.320
they don't have

41:59.320 --> 42:00.260
a lot of links on it

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you would think

42:00.980 --> 42:01.420
that it wouldn't

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be a high site

42:02.160 --> 42:02.820
so you know

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every now and then

42:03.680 --> 42:04.220
when somebody has

42:04.220 --> 42:05.120
the perfect theory

42:05.120 --> 42:06.140
of how the google bot

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works

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it totally gets

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shot out of the world

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well i know

42:09.760 --> 42:10.540
for a fact

42:10.540 --> 42:11.260
that one of the ways

42:11.260 --> 42:12.040
it works is that

42:12.040 --> 42:13.200
you can you know

42:13.200 --> 42:14.680
it measures how much

42:14.680 --> 42:15.300
certain phrases

42:15.300 --> 42:16.660
are linked to a specific page

42:16.660 --> 42:17.760
so remember the thing

42:17.760 --> 42:18.460
where people google

42:18.460 --> 42:19.260
bombed the page

42:19.260 --> 42:20.460
for george w bush

42:20.460 --> 42:21.060
when people google

42:21.060 --> 42:21.940
for miserable failure

42:21.940 --> 42:23.660
oh yes

42:23.660 --> 42:25.300
was that george bush

42:25.300 --> 42:26.600
or was it george bush

42:26.600 --> 42:27.020
yeah

42:27.020 --> 42:27.400
yeah

42:27.400 --> 42:28.800
yeah the google bomb

42:28.800 --> 42:29.920
the original google bomb

42:29.920 --> 42:30.700
that's the original one

42:30.700 --> 42:30.920
yeah

42:30.920 --> 42:32.340
no no no

42:32.340 --> 42:33.220
it actually varies

42:33.220 --> 42:34.420
depending on when you do it

42:34.420 --> 42:35.520
or how it updates

42:35.520 --> 42:35.960
the statistics

42:35.960 --> 42:36.740
you occasionally get

42:36.740 --> 42:37.260
michael moore

42:37.260 --> 42:37.920
oh will you

42:37.920 --> 42:38.240
okay

42:38.240 --> 42:40.000
i think that's more recent

42:40.000 --> 42:40.380
though i remember

42:40.380 --> 42:41.960
the the bush thing

42:41.960 --> 42:43.320
being around much

42:43.320 --> 42:44.600
long before michael moore

42:44.600 --> 42:45.200
started becoming

42:45.200 --> 42:45.560
you know

42:45.560 --> 42:46.920
mr mr bitch a lot

42:46.920 --> 42:48.500
well you know

42:48.500 --> 42:49.140
what else is interesting

42:49.140 --> 42:49.720
about google

42:49.720 --> 42:51.160
is their their results

42:51.160 --> 42:52.120
are actually different

42:52.120 --> 42:53.260
you know if you give

42:53.260 --> 42:54.340
the same search query

42:54.340 --> 42:55.380
different times

42:55.380 --> 42:56.480
like a perfect example

42:56.480 --> 42:57.060
that you could test

42:57.060 --> 42:58.640
is if you use tour

42:58.640 --> 42:59.640
you'll get actually

42:59.640 --> 43:00.320
into other countries

43:00.320 --> 43:01.040
different languages

43:01.040 --> 43:01.740
so of course that's

43:01.740 --> 43:02.320
different but

43:02.320 --> 43:03.500
you know i guess

43:03.500 --> 43:04.540
that's almost an indication

43:04.540 --> 43:05.160
that they don't have

43:05.160 --> 43:06.460
a centralized database

43:06.460 --> 43:07.820
and that each

43:07.820 --> 43:09.140
entity of google

43:09.140 --> 43:10.140
is a little different

43:10.140 --> 43:11.280
so i always thought

43:11.280 --> 43:11.840
that was interesting

43:11.840 --> 43:12.300
that you know

43:12.300 --> 43:13.140
maybe if you can't

43:13.140 --> 43:14.420
find a result in english

43:14.420 --> 43:15.720
it never hurts to go

43:15.720 --> 43:17.000
check out another language

43:17.000 --> 43:18.040
mm-hmm

43:18.040 --> 43:19.480
or not even another language

43:19.480 --> 43:20.240
another location

43:20.240 --> 43:22.020
it's not even just

43:22.020 --> 43:23.020
different languages

43:23.020 --> 43:23.960
it's everything

43:23.960 --> 43:26.320
i mean for example

43:26.320 --> 43:27.860
i um

43:27.860 --> 43:29.140
i think

43:29.140 --> 43:30.340
i was running

43:30.340 --> 43:32.040
the 1.5 beta

43:32.040 --> 43:33.660
on my desktop

43:33.660 --> 43:34.340
at work

43:34.340 --> 43:35.500
and on my laptop

43:35.500 --> 43:36.680
i was still running

43:36.680 --> 43:37.420
um fire

43:37.420 --> 43:37.840
i'm sorry

43:37.840 --> 43:38.700
the 1.5

43:38.700 --> 43:39.720
firefox beta

43:39.720 --> 43:41.160
and on my laptop

43:41.160 --> 43:41.620
i was running

43:41.620 --> 43:43.080
106 uh stable

43:43.080 --> 43:44.600
like back in the day

43:44.600 --> 43:45.220
or whatever it was

43:45.220 --> 43:47.060
and i ran the query

43:47.060 --> 43:48.720
on um

43:48.720 --> 43:50.360
firefox

43:50.360 --> 43:51.020
on my desktop

43:51.020 --> 43:51.780
and i got the link

43:51.780 --> 43:52.260
that i wanted

43:52.260 --> 43:52.620
and i said

43:52.620 --> 43:53.440
okay let me go

43:53.440 --> 43:53.860
search for that

43:53.860 --> 43:54.360
on my laptop

43:54.360 --> 43:55.000
because i actually

43:55.000 --> 43:55.660
wanted to install

43:55.660 --> 43:56.160
the software

43:56.160 --> 43:56.680
on this one

43:56.680 --> 43:58.340
and um

43:58.340 --> 44:00.000
it was the

44:00.000 --> 44:00.540
uh like the

44:00.540 --> 44:01.560
january community

44:01.560 --> 44:02.520
technology preview

44:02.520 --> 44:04.080
for um

44:04.080 --> 44:05.040
microsoft expression

44:05.040 --> 44:05.480
designer

44:05.480 --> 44:06.720
or something like that

44:06.720 --> 44:08.640
so i i googled it

44:08.640 --> 44:09.200
on my laptop

44:09.200 --> 44:11.240
and i found it

44:11.240 --> 44:11.520
it's like

44:11.520 --> 44:12.080
you know

44:12.080 --> 44:13.120
ctp preview

44:13.120 --> 44:14.000
for you know

44:14.000 --> 44:14.720
microsoft expression

44:14.720 --> 44:15.460
and i click on it

44:15.460 --> 44:16.080
and it's that

44:16.080 --> 44:17.100
and it's the old one

44:17.100 --> 44:17.620
and i was like

44:17.620 --> 44:18.060
wait a minute

44:18.060 --> 44:18.660
i searched for the

44:18.660 --> 44:19.300
same exact thing

44:19.300 --> 44:19.820
why am i getting

44:19.820 --> 44:20.400
the old one

44:20.400 --> 44:20.800
and

44:20.800 --> 44:22.580
i wonder if that's

44:22.580 --> 44:23.160
more of a load

44:23.160 --> 44:24.000
balancing thing

44:24.000 --> 44:24.880
or if it's actually

44:24.880 --> 44:26.040
not a centralized

44:26.040 --> 44:26.860
database

44:26.860 --> 44:28.320
you know

44:28.320 --> 44:29.180
maybe they actually

44:29.180 --> 44:29.400
have

44:29.400 --> 44:30.260
yeah it might very

44:30.260 --> 44:30.780
well be load

44:30.780 --> 44:31.160
balancing

44:31.160 --> 44:33.580
i'd be curious

44:33.580 --> 44:34.140
to know more

44:34.140 --> 44:34.660
about that

44:34.660 --> 44:35.100
there's actually

44:35.100 --> 44:35.540
a really good

44:35.540 --> 44:36.060
conference that

44:36.060 --> 44:36.660
goes on once a

44:36.660 --> 44:37.260
year in new york

44:37.260 --> 44:37.780
and i didn't get

44:37.780 --> 44:38.220
to go to it

44:38.220 --> 44:38.640
this year

44:38.640 --> 44:39.540
but uh

44:39.540 --> 44:40.600
they talk a lot

44:40.600 --> 44:41.260
a lot about

44:41.260 --> 44:42.160
marketing of search

44:42.160 --> 44:42.760
engines but they

44:42.760 --> 44:43.440
also talk a lot

44:43.440 --> 44:43.760
about the

44:43.760 --> 44:44.600
technicalities of

44:44.600 --> 44:45.620
how of how to

44:45.620 --> 44:46.840
how ranking should

44:46.840 --> 44:47.580
work you know

44:47.580 --> 44:48.360
what's what's

44:48.360 --> 44:49.000
great what's

44:49.000 --> 44:49.720
best from like

44:49.720 --> 44:50.400
a business

44:50.400 --> 44:51.060
person's point

44:51.060 --> 44:51.240
of view

44:51.240 --> 44:51.740
it's not really

44:51.740 --> 44:52.560
geared too much

44:52.560 --> 44:52.900
towards the

44:52.900 --> 44:53.480
computer user

44:53.480 --> 44:53.860
but they do

44:53.860 --> 44:54.320
get into some

44:54.320 --> 44:55.120
technical details

44:55.120 --> 44:56.000
the name of it

44:56.000 --> 44:56.780
slips my mind

44:56.780 --> 44:57.680
but anybody who's

44:57.680 --> 44:58.280
interested in that

44:58.280 --> 44:58.820
sort of thing

44:58.820 --> 45:00.020
uh i guess you

45:00.020 --> 45:00.860
can google for it

45:00.860 --> 45:01.440
or use your

45:01.440 --> 45:02.060
search engine of

45:02.060 --> 45:02.420
choice

45:02.420 --> 45:05.260
i was actually

45:05.260 --> 45:05.740
going to go for

45:05.740 --> 45:06.920
that but instead

45:06.920 --> 45:07.980
i i opted to go

45:07.980 --> 45:09.080
for the nigerian

45:09.080 --> 45:10.020
419 scammer

45:10.020 --> 45:10.720
conference down in

45:10.720 --> 45:11.360
africa this year

45:11.360 --> 45:12.020
oh sweet

45:12.020 --> 45:14.040
where is it again

45:14.040 --> 45:14.660
zimbabwe

45:14.660 --> 45:15.900
or buchanan

45:15.900 --> 45:16.340
zimbabwe this

45:16.340 --> 45:16.520
year

45:16.520 --> 45:17.020
oh okay

45:17.020 --> 45:17.580
you want to

45:17.580 --> 45:18.180
keep my check

45:18.180 --> 45:18.800
down there and

45:18.800 --> 45:19.600
deliver it to the

45:19.600 --> 45:19.860
guy

45:19.860 --> 45:20.620
because uh

45:20.620 --> 45:21.120
he's going to be

45:21.120 --> 45:21.680
sending me a whole

45:21.680 --> 45:22.040
bunch of money

45:22.040 --> 45:22.540
through my bank

45:22.540 --> 45:23.020
account i get to

45:23.020 --> 45:24.500
keep 10% of it

45:24.500 --> 45:25.820
oh oh real oh

45:25.820 --> 45:26.640
so so uh you

45:26.640 --> 45:27.080
know you know

45:27.080 --> 45:27.740
mamaluke too

45:27.740 --> 45:29.700
who doesn't

45:29.700 --> 45:30.880
yeah my good

45:30.880 --> 45:31.540
friend mamaluke

45:31.540 --> 45:31.900
boobaday

45:31.900 --> 45:32.360
yeah he's a good

45:32.360 --> 45:33.080
friend of everybody

45:33.080 --> 45:34.180
isn't he

45:34.180 --> 45:34.500
yes

45:34.500 --> 45:35.780
yeah me

45:35.780 --> 45:37.060
hello good friend

45:37.060 --> 45:37.860
how are you today

45:37.860 --> 45:38.960
you don't know me

45:38.960 --> 45:39.160
but

45:39.160 --> 45:41.220
well i have 30

45:41.220 --> 45:42.060
million dollars

45:42.060 --> 45:43.140
yes and i

45:43.140 --> 45:43.740
want to give you

45:43.740 --> 45:45.060
and i selected you

45:45.060 --> 45:45.860
yes you

45:45.860 --> 45:47.900
because i have

45:47.900 --> 45:49.000
your email address

45:49.000 --> 45:51.140
actually i found

45:51.140 --> 45:51.820
all those nights

45:51.820 --> 45:52.600
that i wasted on

45:52.600 --> 45:53.460
those porn sites

45:53.460 --> 45:55.980
don't subscribe to

45:55.980 --> 45:57.120
that it's a spam list

45:57.120 --> 45:58.380
obviously not if i'm

45:58.380 --> 45:59.120
making 30 million

45:59.120 --> 45:59.700
dollars

45:59.700 --> 46:00.980
exactly

46:00.980 --> 46:01.720
you gotta have a

46:01.720 --> 46:02.240
good head on your

46:02.240 --> 46:03.140
shoulders to be

46:03.140 --> 46:03.720
reasonable about

46:03.720 --> 46:04.360
these things you

46:04.360 --> 46:04.560
know

46:04.560 --> 46:06.420
all i had to do

46:06.420 --> 46:06.840
was send him my

46:06.840 --> 46:07.680
bank account number

46:07.680 --> 46:08.620
yeah where's the

46:08.620 --> 46:09.180
harm in that i

46:09.180 --> 46:10.140
mean perfect

46:10.140 --> 46:10.860
he can have it

46:10.860 --> 46:11.760
it's negative so

46:11.760 --> 46:12.220
you know

46:12.220 --> 46:13.080
have fun

46:13.080 --> 46:16.060
maybe he'll actually

46:16.060 --> 46:16.640
have to pay money

46:16.640 --> 46:17.360
into it

46:17.360 --> 46:19.320
what there's like

46:19.320 --> 46:20.060
one website where

46:20.060 --> 46:20.500
the guy just

46:20.500 --> 46:21.280
basically owns

46:21.280 --> 46:22.240
419 scammers

46:22.240 --> 46:23.500
that's what he

46:23.500 --> 46:23.860
does and he

46:23.860 --> 46:24.380
posts all the

46:24.380 --> 46:24.840
accounts

46:24.840 --> 46:25.760
like he

46:25.760 --> 46:28.020
i forget what

46:28.020 --> 46:28.380
it is

46:28.380 --> 46:29.300
like the like

46:29.300 --> 46:29.460
the like the

46:29.460 --> 46:29.920
like his first

46:29.920 --> 46:30.400
one that he did

46:30.400 --> 46:30.920
he like you know

46:30.920 --> 46:31.860
told the guy like

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oh man i need to

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get you know like

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toward the end

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like he said

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oh man i need to

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get out of

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are you

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no no no no

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no okay

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oh god no no

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not them let's not

46:41.940 --> 46:42.580
talk about them

46:42.580 --> 46:43.400
well we actually

46:43.400 --> 46:44.800
had a suggestion

46:44.800 --> 46:46.260
someone contacted

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me and suggested

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we do a whole show

46:47.720 --> 46:48.540
on scam baiting

46:48.540 --> 46:49.400
so it might be

46:49.400 --> 46:50.060
worth looking into

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possibly we should

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have that to our

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pile

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um is is did did

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so did droops die

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no i'm back

46:57.800 --> 46:58.100
yeah

46:58.100 --> 46:59.200
it's 419 eater

46:59.200 --> 46:59.720
dot com

46:59.720 --> 47:00.580
that's it 419 eater

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oh thank you

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oh look at that

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droops where did

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you go

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i i i don't know

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you don't know

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his phone is

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screwed up

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he never knows

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every time i push

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this button like in

47:10.860 --> 47:12.000
the on the phone

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it keeps hanging

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up i don't know

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that's the hang

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up button

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yeah

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it's red for a

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reason

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so droops what

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have you been

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doing

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what's your

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personal hacking

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story

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what's that

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what's your

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personal hacking

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story

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my personal

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hacking story

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well other than

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you know like

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the gibson

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which you know

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we all do

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um we've been

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working on slacks

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and remastering

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it and adding

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stuff into it

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and i'm right

47:40.540 --> 47:42.020
now like as we

47:42.020 --> 47:43.000
speak trying to

47:43.000 --> 47:44.080
make an asterisk

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module that

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actually works

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and i have one

47:48.320 --> 47:48.960
that kind of

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works and it

47:50.640 --> 47:51.520
doesn't work i

47:51.520 --> 47:52.000
don't understand

47:52.000 --> 47:52.700
why it doesn't

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work on all the

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other different

47:54.360 --> 47:55.200
versions of slacks

47:55.200 --> 47:56.060
except like the

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main one it gives

47:57.820 --> 47:58.440
me an error if i

47:58.440 --> 47:59.000
try to put it in

47:59.000 --> 47:59.700
anything else

47:59.700 --> 48:00.980
what's the error

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well first off

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for those of you

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who don't know

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what is slacks

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oh i'm sorry

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slacks is a

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um alright this

48:08.720 --> 48:09.860
guy really into

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slackware made

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some scripts called

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the linux live

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scripts which is

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at linux-live.org

48:15.420 --> 48:16.900
and you install

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these boogers and

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run them and it

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makes a live cd of

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your system and he

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took that and

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started making

48:23.340 --> 48:24.660
slacks which is a

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live cd based on

48:25.720 --> 48:28.060
slackware and you

48:28.060 --> 48:29.640
can customize it to

48:29.640 --> 48:30.400
uh make it do

48:30.400 --> 48:31.960
cool things like

48:31.960 --> 48:32.740
slacks is in like

48:32.740 --> 48:33.820
the top 20 i want

48:33.820 --> 48:34.520
to say on distro

48:34.520 --> 48:36.440
watch and within

48:36.440 --> 48:37.220
the next hundred

48:37.220 --> 48:38.740
there's wolfix and

48:38.740 --> 48:39.860
i think that uh

48:39.860 --> 48:40.900
backtrack is also

48:40.900 --> 48:42.020
on there now and

48:42.020 --> 48:42.540
they're all based

48:42.540 --> 48:43.320
off of slacks

48:43.320 --> 48:44.700
yeah okay

48:44.700 --> 48:45.080
is that our

48:45.080 --> 48:45.880
closing music going

48:45.880 --> 48:46.280
i don't think the

48:46.280 --> 48:46.720
show was over

48:46.720 --> 48:47.060
already

48:47.060 --> 48:49.440
no that was my

48:49.440 --> 48:49.880
phone in the

48:49.880 --> 48:50.620
background i turned

48:50.620 --> 48:51.700
off my sidekick

48:51.700 --> 48:52.300
that i just painted

48:52.300 --> 48:53.620
black it's cool

48:53.620 --> 48:54.220
nice

48:54.220 --> 48:56.860
anyway i've been

48:56.860 --> 48:57.520
trying to play with

48:57.520 --> 48:57.820
this

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and as soon as

48:59.920 --> 49:00.520
we can make one

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that has an asterisk

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module we'll have

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a live cd based

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asterisk system and

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people are saying

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well what the hell

49:08.440 --> 49:08.940
is the point of

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that well it you

49:10.540 --> 49:11.380
don't have to install

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it you can just kind

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of put it on a

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machine to demo it

49:13.600 --> 49:14.340
or play around with

49:14.340 --> 49:15.600
it and with slacks

49:15.600 --> 49:16.080
they have this thing

49:16.080 --> 49:17.920
called web config that

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you can save your

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important config files on

49:20.420 --> 49:21.600
the slacks website and

49:21.600 --> 49:22.220
then when you boot the

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thing up wherever a

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computer you boot it up

49:24.560 --> 49:26.040
you know is your asterisk

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box all of a sudden

49:26.840 --> 49:27.380
it's got all your

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config files

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with your secrets

49:29.280 --> 49:29.880
intact

49:29.880 --> 49:30.980
with your secrets

49:30.980 --> 49:31.500
intact

49:31.500 --> 49:32.660
nice

49:32.660 --> 49:33.280
so wait a minute

49:33.280 --> 49:33.620
wait a minute

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which website are

49:35.220 --> 49:36.080
you saving this on

49:36.080 --> 49:37.240
you save it on the

49:37.240 --> 49:38.000
slacks website i

49:38.000 --> 49:38.720
wouldn't put my

49:38.720 --> 49:39.680
password on it but i

49:39.680 --> 49:41.180
mean your extensions

49:41.180 --> 49:42.380
dot com really isn't

49:42.380 --> 49:43.020
you know proprietary

49:43.020 --> 49:43.640
information

49:43.640 --> 49:45.500
i don't know what you

49:45.500 --> 49:45.920
have in your

49:45.920 --> 49:46.680
extensions dot com

49:46.680 --> 49:47.200
but i do

49:47.200 --> 49:50.320
but it's not like a

49:50.320 --> 49:51.100
publicly accessible

49:51.100 --> 49:51.840
place you have to have

49:51.840 --> 49:52.240
a username and

49:52.240 --> 49:53.000
password so

49:53.000 --> 49:54.280
because we all know

49:54.280 --> 49:55.040
how secure those are

49:55.040 --> 49:55.280
yeah

49:55.280 --> 49:56.420
it limits the number

49:56.420 --> 49:57.040
of people that get

49:57.040 --> 49:58.280
to see it

49:58.280 --> 49:59.760
down to like instead

49:59.760 --> 50:01.080
of a instead of 4.6

50:01.080 --> 50:02.000
billion it's down to

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like you know 4.3

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exactly

50:03.960 --> 50:04.660
yeah

50:04.660 --> 50:06.560
but whatever

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you and all the

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nigerian scam

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scam artists

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i'm moving to 4.2

50:13.600 --> 50:14.000
0

50:14.000 --> 50:16.340
and didn't you just

50:16.340 --> 50:17.240
didn't you just

50:17.240 --> 50:18.960
release a beta for

50:18.960 --> 50:20.420
oh yeah we released

50:20.420 --> 50:21.060
i'm sorry

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we released a beta

50:21.920 --> 50:22.800
for our pod for

50:22.800 --> 50:23.820
pod for linux

50:23.820 --> 50:25.480
which is like

50:25.480 --> 50:26.760
we're gonna write

50:26.760 --> 50:27.420
some tutorials and

50:27.420 --> 50:27.820
things for it

50:27.820 --> 50:28.680
and set it apart

50:28.680 --> 50:29.860
but mainly it was

50:29.860 --> 50:30.680
just our test to see

50:30.680 --> 50:31.340
if we could make

50:31.340 --> 50:32.560
a really cool little

50:32.560 --> 50:33.040
distro

50:33.040 --> 50:34.300
and it's for

50:34.300 --> 50:35.680
podcast creation

50:35.680 --> 50:37.000
because that's

50:37.000 --> 50:37.700
the new thing

50:37.700 --> 50:38.340
that people are

50:38.340 --> 50:38.620
doing

50:38.620 --> 50:39.300
making these

50:39.300 --> 50:39.760
little radio

50:39.760 --> 50:40.200
shows

50:40.200 --> 50:41.580
and we want

50:41.580 --> 50:41.920
the video

50:41.920 --> 50:42.560
shows are so

50:42.560 --> 50:43.140
that'll never

50:43.140 --> 50:43.420
catch on

50:43.420 --> 50:43.880
we wanted to

50:43.880 --> 50:44.420
use linux

50:44.420 --> 50:44.820
while they're

50:44.820 --> 50:45.240
doing it

50:45.240 --> 50:46.900
so we're

50:46.900 --> 50:47.500
making pod

50:47.500 --> 50:47.920
vert

50:47.920 --> 50:49.680
now where

50:49.680 --> 50:50.240
can they send

50:50.240 --> 50:50.700
all these

50:50.700 --> 50:51.520
small radio

50:51.520 --> 50:52.080
shows that

50:52.080 --> 50:52.760
they make

50:52.760 --> 50:53.260
themselves

50:53.260 --> 50:53.720
do you have

50:53.720 --> 50:54.080
any good

50:54.080 --> 50:54.660
places to

50:54.660 --> 50:55.020
send them

50:55.020 --> 50:55.360
droops

50:55.360 --> 50:56.120
you know

50:56.120 --> 50:56.840
just go to

50:56.840 --> 50:57.800
infanomicon.org

50:57.800 --> 50:58.120
and read

50:58.120 --> 50:58.500
everything

50:58.500 --> 50:59.320
and you'll

50:59.320 --> 50:59.840
probably find

50:59.840 --> 51:00.300
something

51:00.300 --> 51:01.580
twat radio

51:01.580 --> 51:03.820
twat radio

51:03.820 --> 51:04.560
that's a good

51:04.560 --> 51:04.900
show

51:04.900 --> 51:11.480
aren't you

51:11.480 --> 51:11.780
on that

51:11.780 --> 51:12.240
show man

51:12.240 --> 51:13.480
I don't

51:13.480 --> 51:13.820
think so

51:13.820 --> 51:14.660
I've got to

51:14.660 --> 51:15.080
do one

51:15.080 --> 51:15.800
sometime soon

51:15.800 --> 51:17.060
not this

51:17.060 --> 51:17.420
month

51:17.420 --> 51:18.600
it's kind

51:18.600 --> 51:18.920
of funny

51:18.920 --> 51:19.400
how Strom

51:19.400 --> 51:19.960
is neglected

51:19.960 --> 51:20.320
to do

51:20.320 --> 51:20.860
the twat

51:20.860 --> 51:23.600
oh god

51:23.600 --> 51:26.480
see now

51:26.480 --> 51:26.720
if there's

51:26.720 --> 51:26.920
a little

51:26.920 --> 51:27.480
radio show

51:27.480 --> 51:27.720
called

51:27.720 --> 51:28.300
cock

51:28.300 --> 51:29.680
that's him

51:29.680 --> 51:30.160
oh yeah

51:30.160 --> 51:30.740
I'll Strom

51:30.740 --> 51:31.860
all the time

51:31.860 --> 51:32.740
woo

51:32.740 --> 51:35.960
Strom

51:35.960 --> 51:38.760
Lube

51:38.760 --> 51:39.360
here we go

51:39.360 --> 51:40.000
Lube radio

51:40.000 --> 51:40.360
there we go

51:40.360 --> 51:45.640
Strom you had

51:45.640 --> 51:46.160
some type of

51:46.160 --> 51:46.620
personal hacking

51:46.620 --> 51:47.100
story that you

51:47.100 --> 51:47.500
wanted to say

51:47.500 --> 51:47.860
I don't know

51:47.860 --> 51:48.260
what it is

51:48.260 --> 51:48.700
oh yes

51:48.700 --> 51:49.300
I spent all

51:49.300 --> 51:49.500
of

51:49.500 --> 51:50.880
yesterday I

51:50.880 --> 51:52.200
decided finally

51:52.200 --> 51:53.700
that when

51:53.700 --> 51:54.780
CD asterisk box

51:54.780 --> 51:55.320
we recorded

51:55.320 --> 51:56.040
and produced

51:56.040 --> 51:56.600
the show on

51:56.600 --> 51:57.120
was kind of

51:57.120 --> 51:58.040
the hard drive

51:58.040 --> 51:58.660
was getting full

51:58.660 --> 51:59.040
and it was the

51:59.040 --> 51:59.480
first Linux

51:59.480 --> 52:00.380
server I ever

52:00.380 --> 52:01.100
set up and I

52:01.100 --> 52:01.780
figured maybe I

52:01.780 --> 52:02.100
should do it

52:02.100 --> 52:02.500
right this

52:02.500 --> 52:03.440
time so

52:03.440 --> 52:04.580
I set up a

52:04.580 --> 52:05.120
new box and

52:05.120 --> 52:06.960
started installing

52:06.960 --> 52:07.700
asterisk and

52:07.700 --> 52:09.180
I finally got it

52:09.180 --> 52:09.820
working and we're

52:09.820 --> 52:10.360
talking on it

52:10.360 --> 52:11.500
right now but

52:11.500 --> 52:13.660
it was a major

52:13.660 --> 52:14.220
pain in the ass

52:14.220 --> 52:14.580
to get the

52:14.580 --> 52:15.140
streaming working

52:15.140 --> 52:16.000
again I spent

52:16.000 --> 52:17.740
hours and hours

52:17.740 --> 52:18.900
agonizing over

52:18.900 --> 52:20.620
this because I

52:20.620 --> 52:21.460
copied all the

52:21.460 --> 52:22.340
config files over

52:22.340 --> 52:23.120
I installed all

52:23.120 --> 52:23.920
the same programs

52:23.920 --> 52:24.980
everything should

52:24.980 --> 52:25.500
have worked and

52:25.500 --> 52:26.220
it didn't and I

52:26.220 --> 52:27.100
just banged my

52:27.100 --> 52:27.520
head into the

52:27.520 --> 52:28.040
wall for like

52:28.040 --> 52:28.840
six hours trying

52:28.840 --> 52:29.320
to figure this

52:29.320 --> 52:30.720
out and then I

52:30.720 --> 52:31.400
solved my problem

52:31.400 --> 52:32.080
by making a

52:32.080 --> 52:32.580
sim link

52:32.580 --> 52:37.080
okay well you

52:37.080 --> 52:37.660
gotta explain what

52:37.660 --> 52:38.300
a sim link is

52:38.300 --> 52:38.920
for those people

52:38.920 --> 52:39.420
who don't know

52:39.420 --> 52:40.040
like all eight

52:40.040 --> 52:40.720
of a sim link

52:40.720 --> 52:41.380
is like a

52:41.380 --> 52:41.920
shortcut in

52:41.920 --> 52:42.900
windows it's

52:42.900 --> 52:43.840
one thing that

52:43.840 --> 52:44.320
points to

52:44.320 --> 52:46.240
another what

52:46.240 --> 52:47.120
happened was

52:47.120 --> 52:47.540
the technical

52:47.540 --> 52:48.680
detail is the

52:48.680 --> 52:49.600
way the streaming

52:49.600 --> 52:50.320
works on our

52:50.320 --> 52:51.100
server is we

52:51.100 --> 52:52.560
have asterisk that

52:52.560 --> 52:53.340
we all talk on

52:53.340 --> 52:53.960
the meet me

52:53.960 --> 52:55.200
conference then

52:55.200 --> 52:55.540
there's an

52:55.540 --> 52:56.240
asterisk plugin

52:56.240 --> 52:58.000
called ices which

52:58.000 --> 52:58.820
streams to an

52:58.820 --> 52:59.720
ice cast server

52:59.720 --> 53:01.360
but the problem

53:01.360 --> 53:02.260
is that ices only

53:02.260 --> 53:02.780
streams in

53:02.780 --> 53:03.680
og vorbis and

53:03.680 --> 53:04.380
everyone listens

53:04.380 --> 53:06.780
in mp3 so I

53:06.780 --> 53:08.220
have to then I

53:08.220 --> 53:09.160
stream to an

53:09.160 --> 53:10.380
ice cast server

53:10.380 --> 53:11.100
running on my

53:11.100 --> 53:12.540
asterisk box and

53:12.540 --> 53:14.880
then from there I

53:14.880 --> 53:16.700
get the stream from

53:16.700 --> 53:17.700
my own asterisk box

53:17.700 --> 53:18.840
I have to transcode

53:18.840 --> 53:19.760
it and then re-upload

53:19.760 --> 53:20.840
it to gdphack radio

53:20.840 --> 53:23.220
and so the problem

53:23.220 --> 53:24.460
is that the version

53:24.460 --> 53:25.160
of ices that

53:25.160 --> 53:26.560
installs is ices2

53:26.560 --> 53:28.900
and the ices that

53:28.900 --> 53:29.660
asterisk looks for

53:29.660 --> 53:30.120
is just called

53:30.120 --> 53:32.900
ices and so I

53:32.900 --> 53:33.620
had to symlink

53:33.620 --> 53:35.740
ices to ices2 in

53:35.740 --> 53:36.380
order to get it to

53:36.380 --> 53:39.780
work six hours of

53:39.780 --> 53:40.840
banging my head into

53:40.840 --> 53:42.040
the wall for that

53:42.040 --> 53:48.480
ln-s yeah ir test

53:48.480 --> 53:52.480
smart no ln-s

53:52.480 --> 53:55.800
well just to

53:55.800 --> 53:56.460
continue the

53:56.460 --> 53:58.420
reinstall theme

53:58.420 --> 53:59.240
here I also

53:59.240 --> 54:00.040
reinstalled my

54:00.040 --> 54:00.940
server on

54:00.940 --> 54:02.080
saturday

54:02.080 --> 54:05.420
because like I

54:05.420 --> 54:06.100
mean you all

54:06.100 --> 54:06.740
listened to it last

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week actually my

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honeypot's down

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now I need to

54:08.900 --> 54:10.400
reinstall that and

54:10.400 --> 54:11.380
like do like 15

54:11.380 --> 54:12.000
bazillion other

54:12.000 --> 54:13.380
things I actually

54:13.380 --> 54:14.360
had a problem with

54:14.360 --> 54:15.520
asterisk this

54:15.520 --> 54:16.680
evening right before

54:16.680 --> 54:17.200
the show and

54:17.200 --> 54:18.600
going no no work

54:18.600 --> 54:20.360
work and mysteriously

54:20.360 --> 54:21.200
did so I'm happy

54:21.200 --> 54:21.460
now

54:21.460 --> 54:25.000
but yeah so I

54:25.000 --> 54:26.720
had to work out

54:26.720 --> 54:27.500
and do all that

54:27.500 --> 54:28.800
stuff and reinstall

54:28.800 --> 54:29.760
debian on it and

54:29.760 --> 54:30.500
it was kind of

54:30.500 --> 54:32.260
annoying but it's

54:32.260 --> 54:32.980
still completely

54:32.980 --> 54:33.880
set up like for

54:33.880 --> 54:34.500
example if someone

54:34.500 --> 54:35.460
calls my house right

54:35.460 --> 54:36.660
now like for those

54:36.660 --> 54:37.360
you don't know I

54:37.360 --> 54:39.300
when on when you

54:39.300 --> 54:40.000
actually you know

54:40.000 --> 54:41.380
call my landline my

54:41.380 --> 54:42.500
real person landline

54:42.500 --> 54:44.680
and I don't have an

54:44.680 --> 54:45.180
answering machine

54:45.180 --> 54:46.380
asterisk actually does

54:46.380 --> 54:46.920
all my answering

54:46.920 --> 54:48.620
machine duties I'm

54:48.620 --> 54:49.780
just that hardcore I

54:49.780 --> 54:50.760
have Linux answering

54:50.760 --> 54:51.220
my phone

54:51.220 --> 54:54.340
and actually since I

54:54.340 --> 54:55.340
reinstall it doesn't

54:55.340 --> 54:55.900
actually do that

54:55.900 --> 54:56.420
anymore because I

54:56.420 --> 54:56.700
don't have the

54:56.700 --> 54:57.560
driver set up for it

54:57.560 --> 54:59.340
yet and I need to do

54:59.340 --> 55:00.120
that I should probably

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do that tonight

55:00.820 --> 55:03.580
because compiling your

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kernel is interesting

55:04.420 --> 55:05.520
with Debian and

55:05.520 --> 55:07.760
sources and Linux

55:07.760 --> 55:08.520
includes and all that

55:08.520 --> 55:10.020
wonderful stuff but

55:10.020 --> 55:11.360
yes I'm working

55:11.360 --> 55:12.440
asterisk is almost

55:12.440 --> 55:13.280
there and I think

55:13.280 --> 55:13.960
everything else is

55:13.960 --> 55:15.480
fine as well and

55:15.480 --> 55:16.560
everything seems to

55:16.560 --> 55:17.500
be working okay so

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far thank goodness

55:18.600 --> 55:20.600
as I drop off the

55:20.600 --> 55:20.980
conference

55:20.980 --> 55:23.760
yeah we'll blame you

55:23.760 --> 55:24.620
for your new box

55:24.620 --> 55:25.440
instead of my new box

55:25.440 --> 55:28.000
have we have do we

55:28.000 --> 55:28.680
have any phone calls

55:28.680 --> 55:29.680
tonight or are you

55:29.680 --> 55:30.480
even looking or

55:30.480 --> 55:31.620
let me go take a look

55:31.620 --> 55:32.480
I'll go grab

55:32.480 --> 55:33.260
I think Ponyboy's

55:33.260 --> 55:33.760
calling up

55:33.760 --> 55:34.740
supposedly Ponyboy's

55:34.740 --> 55:35.480
on the line I'll go

55:35.480 --> 55:36.300
see if he's there

55:36.300 --> 55:36.980
why don't you guys

55:36.980 --> 55:37.660
probably be sitting

55:37.660 --> 55:38.120
there forever

55:38.120 --> 55:38.940
why don't you guys

55:38.940 --> 55:40.320
enter zone for the

55:40.320 --> 55:40.760
time being

55:40.760 --> 55:42.920
enter zone all right

55:42.920 --> 55:43.840
so enter zone was

55:43.840 --> 55:45.000
two weeks ago we

55:45.000 --> 55:45.700
actually were going to

55:45.700 --> 55:46.800
do this last week but

55:46.800 --> 55:48.020
I already committed

55:48.020 --> 55:49.540
to the radio show

55:49.540 --> 55:51.540
so you guys get

55:51.540 --> 55:52.380
shoved to the side

55:52.380 --> 55:55.840
anyway how was

55:55.840 --> 55:56.340
enter zone

55:56.340 --> 55:57.980
Ziggy

55:57.980 --> 55:59.880
Drews I think I

55:59.880 --> 56:00.660
think I have said

56:00.660 --> 56:01.780
quite a bit and it

56:01.780 --> 56:03.080
is only fair that you

56:03.080 --> 56:04.480
have first dibs

56:04.480 --> 56:06.840
well thank you my

56:06.840 --> 56:07.320
friend

56:07.320 --> 56:11.920
enter zone is hard

56:11.920 --> 56:13.340
to describe I think

56:13.340 --> 56:15.660
if I were to describe

56:15.660 --> 56:16.840
best I would just get

56:16.840 --> 56:18.140
Ziggy to do it

56:18.140 --> 56:19.100
I guess I'm going to

56:19.100 --> 56:19.960
go ahead with this

56:19.960 --> 56:21.280
enter zone

56:21.280 --> 56:22.520
okay so let's start

56:22.520 --> 56:23.040
from the beginning

56:23.040 --> 56:24.600
there Ziggy

56:24.600 --> 56:26.980
you actually wrote

56:26.980 --> 56:27.880
gratuitous show notes

56:27.880 --> 56:29.500
for us so how was

56:29.500 --> 56:30.160
the trip up there

56:30.160 --> 56:31.820
so where is enter

56:31.820 --> 56:32.520
zone that's in

56:32.520 --> 56:33.340
Atlanta correct

56:33.340 --> 56:35.480
it is in Atlanta

56:35.480 --> 56:36.460
as far as I know

56:36.460 --> 56:37.520
it's pretty close to

56:37.520 --> 56:37.940
Atlanta I don't know

56:37.940 --> 56:38.480
if it's actually in

56:38.480 --> 56:39.360
the city of Atlanta

56:39.360 --> 56:40.240
but it's definitely

56:40.240 --> 56:40.720
right there

56:40.720 --> 56:41.720
yeah Ponyboy why

56:41.720 --> 56:42.220
don't you tell us

56:42.220 --> 56:42.640
where it is

56:42.640 --> 56:44.660
yeah it's uh

56:44.660 --> 56:45.320
it's actually

56:45.320 --> 56:47.000
located in

56:47.000 --> 56:47.520
oh it's Ponyboy

56:47.520 --> 56:48.420
welcome back

56:48.420 --> 56:48.880
yeah

56:48.880 --> 56:49.560
hey Ponyboy

56:49.560 --> 56:50.540
I don't get a

56:50.540 --> 56:50.800
hi

56:50.800 --> 56:51.760
oh yeah

56:51.760 --> 56:52.280
hey what's going

56:52.280 --> 56:52.740
on guys

56:52.740 --> 56:53.920
um

56:53.920 --> 56:56.040
yeah they just

56:56.040 --> 56:56.620
they just dropped

56:56.620 --> 56:56.980
me in here

56:56.980 --> 56:57.500
didn't give me a

56:57.500 --> 56:58.240
warning very well

56:58.240 --> 56:59.320
so I didn't know

56:59.320 --> 57:00.080
uh but uh

57:00.080 --> 57:00.500
anyways

57:00.500 --> 57:00.900
yeah

57:00.900 --> 57:03.580
where is it

57:03.580 --> 57:08.480
it's somewhere

57:08.480 --> 57:09.860
it's in the

57:09.860 --> 57:11.100
Atlanta metro area

57:11.100 --> 57:13.900
the Atlanta

57:13.900 --> 57:14.960
metropolitan area

57:14.960 --> 57:16.300
that'll work

57:16.300 --> 57:16.600
oh

57:16.600 --> 57:17.100
then

57:17.100 --> 57:17.440
I'm sorry

57:17.440 --> 57:18.640
so where are you

57:18.640 --> 57:19.400
Ziggy fell off the

57:19.400 --> 57:19.740
conference

57:19.740 --> 57:21.520
huh

57:21.520 --> 57:22.240
Ziggy fell off the

57:22.240 --> 57:22.400
conference

57:22.400 --> 57:22.940
no Ponyboy

57:22.940 --> 57:23.340
fell off the

57:23.340 --> 57:23.460
conference

57:23.460 --> 57:25.980
oh poor Ponyboy

57:25.980 --> 57:27.460
well it was

57:27.460 --> 57:28.120
it was quite a

57:28.120 --> 57:29.080
drive for me

57:29.080 --> 57:30.100
from from Florida

57:30.100 --> 57:31.180
and uh

57:31.180 --> 57:31.940
in the car

57:31.940 --> 57:32.800
were me

57:32.800 --> 57:33.600
Logos X

57:33.600 --> 57:34.580
uh we dragged

57:34.580 --> 57:35.700
Super KT along

57:35.700 --> 57:36.700
and uh

57:36.700 --> 57:37.440
Logos' brother

57:37.440 --> 57:38.780
it was a grand

57:38.780 --> 57:39.440
old time getting

57:39.440 --> 57:39.860
up there

57:39.860 --> 57:41.080
uh you know

57:41.080 --> 57:41.500
I got

57:41.500 --> 57:42.080
is that her

57:42.080 --> 57:42.680
handle now

57:42.680 --> 57:43.840
what's up

57:43.840 --> 57:44.820
is that her

57:44.820 --> 57:45.500
handle now

57:45.500 --> 57:46.740
Katie

57:46.740 --> 57:47.540
Super KT

57:47.540 --> 57:48.200
yeah

57:48.200 --> 57:48.920
Super KT

57:48.920 --> 57:50.080
I think you'd

57:50.080 --> 57:50.560
have to ask her

57:50.560 --> 57:51.040
she likes to

57:51.040 --> 57:51.620
she likes to

57:51.620 --> 57:52.160
you know mix it

57:52.160 --> 57:52.380
up

57:52.380 --> 57:53.260
she actually

57:53.260 --> 57:53.980
has like 15

57:53.980 --> 57:54.980
of them

57:54.980 --> 57:56.200
hey you know

57:56.200 --> 57:56.620
you gotta be

57:56.620 --> 57:57.380
popular right

57:57.380 --> 57:58.220
there he goes

57:58.220 --> 57:59.980
but uh

57:59.980 --> 58:00.720
you know I

58:00.720 --> 58:01.160
don't want to

58:01.160 --> 58:01.760
skip ahead to

58:01.760 --> 58:02.120
the end

58:02.120 --> 58:02.580
but I'm just

58:02.580 --> 58:02.860
going to say

58:02.860 --> 58:03.540
one thing about

58:03.540 --> 58:04.060
Logos

58:04.060 --> 58:05.080
he definitely

58:05.080 --> 58:06.540
has the

58:06.540 --> 58:07.300
he's getting

58:07.300 --> 58:07.900
from me at

58:07.900 --> 58:08.060
least

58:08.060 --> 58:08.500
the gold

58:08.500 --> 58:08.940
medal for

58:08.940 --> 58:09.320
driving

58:09.320 --> 58:09.960
because we

58:09.960 --> 58:10.540
we literally

58:10.540 --> 58:11.300
we almost

58:11.300 --> 58:11.720
died

58:11.720 --> 58:13.160
and Logos'

58:13.360 --> 58:14.540
slick driving

58:14.540 --> 58:15.520
skills are the

58:15.520 --> 58:16.180
only thing that

58:16.180 --> 58:16.720
saved us

58:16.720 --> 58:17.220
he kind of

58:17.220 --> 58:17.580
drives like

58:17.580 --> 58:17.800
he's a

58:17.800 --> 58:18.180
grandmother

58:18.180 --> 58:18.900
going like

58:18.900 --> 58:19.200
80

58:19.200 --> 58:20.060
but other

58:20.060 --> 58:20.580
than that

58:20.580 --> 58:21.420
you know

58:21.420 --> 58:22.220
his slick

58:22.220 --> 58:22.880
he totally

58:22.880 --> 58:23.320
avoided

58:23.320 --> 58:23.840
there was a

58:23.840 --> 58:24.440
car stopped

58:24.440 --> 58:24.940
in the middle

58:24.940 --> 58:25.420
of the highway

58:25.420 --> 58:26.260
for no reason

58:26.260 --> 58:27.340
and he managed

58:27.340 --> 58:27.900
to get in

58:27.900 --> 58:28.580
between two

58:28.580 --> 58:29.420
SUVs

58:29.420 --> 58:30.880
without having

58:30.880 --> 58:31.420
a lane to

58:31.420 --> 58:31.740
go in

58:31.740 --> 58:32.240
he was actually

58:32.240 --> 58:32.940
just driving

58:32.940 --> 58:33.560
on the white

58:33.560 --> 58:34.240
line that

58:34.240 --> 58:34.860
separates the

58:34.860 --> 58:35.360
lanes and

58:35.360 --> 58:36.040
he somehow

58:36.040 --> 58:37.280
swerved

58:37.280 --> 58:38.060
got in

58:38.060 --> 58:38.380
front of

58:38.380 --> 58:39.120
both cars

58:39.120 --> 58:39.860
snuck

58:39.860 --> 58:40.400
between them

58:40.400 --> 58:40.920
and it was

58:40.920 --> 58:41.780
totally slick

58:41.780 --> 58:42.620
so if Logos

58:42.620 --> 58:43.120
is listening

58:43.120 --> 58:44.340
excellent job

58:44.340 --> 58:44.780
driving

58:44.780 --> 58:45.420
I'm glad

58:45.420 --> 58:45.680
that I'm

58:45.680 --> 58:46.220
still alive

58:46.220 --> 58:46.540
that was

58:46.540 --> 58:46.900
awesome

58:46.900 --> 58:48.940
but about

58:48.940 --> 58:49.360
the conference

58:49.360 --> 58:49.900
itself

58:49.900 --> 58:51.900
where did you

58:51.900 --> 58:52.400
actually come

58:52.400 --> 58:52.900
from

58:52.900 --> 58:54.020
I drove in

58:54.020 --> 58:55.080
from Mississippi

58:55.080 --> 58:56.000
and going

58:56.000 --> 58:56.520
across the

58:56.520 --> 58:56.980
great state

58:56.980 --> 58:58.040
of Alabama

58:58.040 --> 58:59.420
they decided

58:59.420 --> 58:59.740
they would

58:59.740 --> 59:00.080
have some

59:00.080 --> 59:00.760
road construction

59:00.760 --> 59:01.480
signs with

59:01.480 --> 59:02.400
like no

59:02.400 --> 59:02.920
construction

59:02.920 --> 59:04.160
and police

59:04.160 --> 59:04.680
officers

59:04.680 --> 59:07.080
so we

59:07.080 --> 59:07.580
kind of got

59:07.580 --> 59:08.320
pulled over

59:08.320 --> 59:10.260
going really

59:10.260 --> 59:10.980
fast in the

59:10.980 --> 59:11.380
construction

59:11.380 --> 59:11.800
zone

59:11.800 --> 59:13.480
and then

59:13.480 --> 59:15.020
my wife says

59:15.020 --> 59:15.620
oh shit

59:15.620 --> 59:16.340
I don't have

59:16.340 --> 59:16.700
an insurance

59:16.700 --> 59:17.140
car in the

59:17.140 --> 59:17.420
car

59:17.420 --> 59:18.940
and I said

59:18.940 --> 59:19.620
oh that's

59:19.620 --> 59:19.980
great

59:19.980 --> 59:21.000
that's awesome

59:21.000 --> 59:22.020
jail time

59:22.020 --> 59:23.900
and the

59:23.900 --> 59:25.000
state trooper

59:25.000 --> 59:25.780
comes up to

59:25.780 --> 59:26.220
the vehicle

59:26.220 --> 59:28.400
and you know

59:28.400 --> 59:28.960
he's very

59:28.960 --> 59:29.420
friendly

59:29.420 --> 59:30.940
just kind of

59:30.940 --> 59:31.340
calm and

59:31.340 --> 59:31.780
relaxed

59:31.780 --> 59:32.100
which was

59:32.100 --> 59:32.560
very nice

59:32.560 --> 59:33.540
two people

59:33.540 --> 59:33.960
got pulled

59:33.960 --> 59:34.200
over

59:34.200 --> 59:34.600
like me

59:34.600 --> 59:35.020
and some

59:35.020 --> 59:35.440
other guy

59:35.440 --> 59:37.380
and I

59:37.380 --> 59:37.820
asked if I

59:37.820 --> 59:38.080
could get

59:38.080 --> 59:38.240
out

59:38.240 --> 59:38.500
because we

59:38.500 --> 59:38.620
had been

59:38.620 --> 59:38.760
in the

59:38.760 --> 59:39.200
car for a

59:39.200 --> 59:39.680
long time

59:39.680 --> 59:41.060
so that he

59:41.060 --> 59:41.240
and I

59:41.240 --> 59:41.760
walked behind

59:41.760 --> 59:42.080
the car

59:42.080 --> 59:42.280
and he

59:42.280 --> 59:42.700
didn't see

59:42.700 --> 59:43.040
that my

59:43.040 --> 59:43.440
wife's

59:43.440 --> 59:44.220
inspection

59:44.220 --> 59:44.620
sticker

59:44.620 --> 59:46.060
was out

59:46.060 --> 59:47.260
and give

59:47.260 --> 59:47.840
us a third

59:47.840 --> 59:48.260
ticket

59:48.260 --> 59:51.960
so let's

59:51.960 --> 59:52.360
see if I

59:52.360 --> 59:52.680
could find

59:52.680 --> 59:53.100
my court

59:53.100 --> 59:53.580
summons

59:53.580 --> 59:56.500
I have

59:56.500 --> 59:56.900
to go

59:56.900 --> 59:58.020
to

59:58.020 --> 59:59.480
operating a

59:59.480 --> 01:00:00.000
vehicle without

01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:00.660
insurance

01:00:00.660 --> 01:00:01.380
and a

01:00:01.380 --> 01:00:01.860
speeding

01:00:01.860 --> 01:00:02.380
wonder if

01:00:02.380 --> 01:00:02.760
it says

01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:03.220
how fast

01:00:03.220 --> 01:00:03.560
I was

01:00:03.560 --> 01:00:03.960
going

01:00:03.960 --> 01:00:06.160
it doesn't

01:00:06.160 --> 01:00:06.500
say but

01:00:06.500 --> 01:00:06.960
it says it

01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:07.260
was in a

01:00:07.260 --> 01:00:07.640
construction

01:00:07.640 --> 01:00:08.080
zone

01:00:08.080 --> 01:00:08.480
which in

01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:09.580
Alabama

01:00:09.580 --> 01:00:10.580
correct me

01:00:10.580 --> 01:00:10.840
if I'm

01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:11.180
wrong

01:00:11.180 --> 01:00:12.660
you don't

01:00:12.660 --> 01:00:13.040
have to pay

01:00:13.040 --> 01:00:13.460
double if

01:00:13.460 --> 01:00:13.840
there's no

01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:14.440
workers

01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:15.960
oh really

01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:16.780
like in

01:00:16.780 --> 01:00:17.200
Mississippi

01:00:17.200 --> 01:00:18.200
it's only if

01:00:18.200 --> 01:00:18.620
workers are

01:00:18.620 --> 01:00:18.900
present

01:00:18.900 --> 01:00:19.460
and then we

01:00:19.460 --> 01:00:20.200
saw a sign

01:00:20.200 --> 01:00:21.240
right after the

01:00:21.240 --> 01:00:21.760
guy pulled us

01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:22.720
over and we

01:00:22.720 --> 01:00:23.000
were driving

01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:23.360
along down

01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:23.780
the road

01:00:23.780 --> 01:00:24.580
that said

01:00:24.580 --> 01:00:25.020
only if

01:00:25.020 --> 01:00:25.540
workers are

01:00:25.540 --> 01:00:25.840
present

01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:26.440
so he

01:00:26.440 --> 01:00:26.800
kind of

01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:27.260
dicked me

01:00:27.260 --> 01:00:27.580
over

01:00:27.580 --> 01:00:29.000
you could

01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:29.860
fight it

01:00:29.860 --> 01:00:30.460
well

01:00:30.460 --> 01:00:30.700
we could

01:00:30.700 --> 01:00:31.000
fight it

01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:33.180
but anyway

01:00:33.180 --> 01:00:33.680
good times

01:00:33.680 --> 01:00:34.000
at that

01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:36.560
it was

01:00:36.560 --> 01:00:36.960
quite an

01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:37.400
experience

01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:38.460
through both

01:00:38.460 --> 01:00:38.700
of you

01:00:38.700 --> 01:00:39.000
there

01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:39.800
yeah

01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:41.740
we pull

01:00:41.740 --> 01:00:41.980
into

01:00:41.980 --> 01:00:42.360
Atlanta

01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:43.660
and we

01:00:43.660 --> 01:00:43.920
have the

01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:44.960
GPS navigation

01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:46.280
going on

01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:47.400
which really

01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:47.800
isn't that

01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:48.280
good on the

01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:48.620
PDA

01:00:48.620 --> 01:00:50.000
and we

01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:51.280
kind of got

01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:51.680
a little

01:00:51.680 --> 01:00:52.560
turned off

01:00:52.560 --> 01:00:52.880
the wrong

01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:53.260
road

01:00:53.260 --> 01:00:54.360
so we

01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:54.640
decided

01:00:54.640 --> 01:00:55.020
oh we'll

01:00:55.020 --> 01:00:55.300
just go

01:00:55.300 --> 01:00:55.960
cross country

01:00:55.960 --> 01:00:56.660
which you

01:00:56.660 --> 01:00:56.900
can do

01:00:56.900 --> 01:00:57.140
here

01:00:57.140 --> 01:00:57.480
but in

01:00:57.480 --> 01:00:57.780
cities

01:00:57.780 --> 01:00:58.220
it seems

01:00:58.220 --> 01:00:58.460
that you

01:00:58.460 --> 01:00:58.820
can't

01:00:58.820 --> 01:00:59.220
because it's

01:00:59.220 --> 01:00:59.640
just a lot

01:00:59.640 --> 01:01:00.220
of stoplights

01:01:00.220 --> 01:01:01.840
and we

01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:02.440
spent a lot

01:01:02.440 --> 01:01:02.800
of time

01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:03.160
in Atlanta

01:01:03.160 --> 01:01:03.560
trying to

01:01:03.560 --> 01:01:04.040
get across

01:01:04.040 --> 01:01:04.960
it

01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:06.780
but there

01:01:06.780 --> 01:01:07.180
was like a

01:01:07.180 --> 01:01:07.900
police chase

01:01:07.900 --> 01:01:08.260
we listened

01:01:08.260 --> 01:01:08.660
to it on the

01:01:08.660 --> 01:01:08.960
radio

01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:09.360
they were

01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:09.620
chasing

01:01:09.620 --> 01:01:10.140
somebody

01:01:10.140 --> 01:01:11.200
that was

01:01:11.200 --> 01:01:11.460
me

01:01:11.460 --> 01:01:12.820
oh okay

01:01:12.820 --> 01:01:15.880
it was a

01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:16.280
good time

01:01:16.280 --> 01:01:16.980
Dr. Zygman

01:01:16.980 --> 01:01:17.400
Logos

01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:17.860
and Katie

01:01:17.860 --> 01:01:18.180
in the

01:01:18.180 --> 01:01:18.720
middle of

01:01:18.720 --> 01:01:19.020
the white

01:01:19.020 --> 01:01:19.460
bronco

01:01:19.460 --> 01:01:19.760
there

01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:20.780
going down

01:01:20.780 --> 01:01:21.320
to Atlanta

01:01:21.320 --> 01:01:23.080
and before

01:01:23.080 --> 01:01:25.460
I

01:01:25.460 --> 01:01:27.060
before I

01:01:27.060 --> 01:01:27.320
forget

01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:27.840
I also

01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:28.080
want to

01:01:28.080 --> 01:01:28.220
give

01:01:28.220 --> 01:01:28.560
Logos

01:01:28.560 --> 01:01:28.880
a gold

01:01:28.880 --> 01:01:29.080
medal

01:01:29.080 --> 01:01:29.280
for

01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:29.660
driving

01:01:29.660 --> 01:01:31.040
we all

01:01:31.040 --> 01:01:31.360
went out

01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:31.760
to eat

01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:32.760
Ponyboy

01:01:32.760 --> 01:01:33.260
Logos

01:01:33.260 --> 01:01:33.560
is my

01:01:33.560 --> 01:01:33.900
wife and

01:01:33.900 --> 01:01:34.160
I

01:01:34.160 --> 01:01:34.560
Mrs.

01:01:34.660 --> 01:01:34.940
Droops

01:01:34.940 --> 01:01:35.280
Claire

01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:35.540
as you

01:01:35.540 --> 01:01:35.740
want to

01:01:35.740 --> 01:01:36.680
call her

01:01:36.680 --> 01:01:38.740
Logos

01:01:38.740 --> 01:01:39.060
and I

01:01:39.060 --> 01:01:39.420
were having

01:01:39.420 --> 01:01:39.760
a beer

01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:40.040
drinking

01:01:40.040 --> 01:01:40.700
contest

01:01:40.700 --> 01:01:41.220
of sorts

01:01:41.220 --> 01:01:42.120
where he

01:01:42.120 --> 01:01:42.560
pretty much

01:01:42.560 --> 01:01:43.200
drank two

01:01:43.200 --> 01:01:43.620
massive

01:01:43.620 --> 01:01:44.100
Mexican

01:01:44.100 --> 01:01:44.500
beers

01:01:44.500 --> 01:01:45.020
like the

01:01:45.020 --> 01:01:45.360
big ones

01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:45.520
you get

01:01:45.520 --> 01:01:45.640
at the

01:01:45.640 --> 01:01:46.020
restaurant

01:01:46.020 --> 01:01:47.660
before I

01:01:47.660 --> 01:01:48.020
drank my

01:01:48.020 --> 01:01:48.340
one

01:01:48.340 --> 01:01:49.380
and then

01:01:49.380 --> 01:01:49.960
he's the

01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:50.260
one that

01:01:50.260 --> 01:01:50.940
drove home

01:01:50.940 --> 01:01:52.880
I just

01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:53.560
drank these

01:01:53.560 --> 01:01:53.940
beers real

01:01:53.940 --> 01:01:54.300
fast

01:01:54.300 --> 01:01:55.280
holy cow

01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:56.180
me and

01:01:56.180 --> 01:01:56.560
Logos

01:01:56.560 --> 01:01:56.740
man

01:01:56.740 --> 01:01:57.020
we gotta

01:01:57.020 --> 01:01:57.320
go get

01:01:57.320 --> 01:01:57.460
up

01:01:57.460 --> 01:01:59.120
I think

01:01:59.120 --> 01:01:59.500
Logos

01:01:59.500 --> 01:01:59.860
will take

01:01:59.860 --> 01:02:00.080
you

01:02:00.080 --> 01:02:00.500
because

01:02:00.500 --> 01:02:01.260
Logos

01:02:01.260 --> 01:02:02.120
can drink

01:02:02.120 --> 01:02:03.120
he can

01:02:03.120 --> 01:02:03.340
drink

01:02:03.340 --> 01:02:03.720
damn

01:02:03.720 --> 01:02:03.980
beer

01:02:03.980 --> 01:02:05.640
he can

01:02:05.640 --> 01:02:06.180
handle it

01:02:06.180 --> 01:02:06.760
I've seen

01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:07.000
him put

01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:07.320
four or

01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:07.820
five down

01:02:07.820 --> 01:02:08.080
and be

01:02:08.080 --> 01:02:08.440
like

01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:08.760
yo

01:02:08.760 --> 01:02:09.060
what's

01:02:09.060 --> 01:02:09.340
up

01:02:09.340 --> 01:02:09.720
can we

01:02:09.720 --> 01:02:09.820
do

01:02:09.820 --> 01:02:09.960
some

01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:10.340
shots

01:02:10.340 --> 01:02:13.520
I don't

01:02:13.520 --> 01:02:13.680
know

01:02:13.680 --> 01:02:14.020
I mean

01:02:14.020 --> 01:02:14.980
I get

01:02:14.980 --> 01:02:15.340
drunk

01:02:15.340 --> 01:02:15.920
after four

01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:16.280
or five

01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:16.640
but I'm

01:02:16.640 --> 01:02:17.020
always up

01:02:17.020 --> 01:02:17.500
for shots

01:02:17.500 --> 01:02:17.840
you know

01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:18.180
yeah

01:02:18.180 --> 01:02:18.600
who isn't

01:02:18.600 --> 01:02:18.900
up for

01:02:18.900 --> 01:02:19.160
shots

01:02:19.160 --> 01:02:20.160
I could

01:02:20.160 --> 01:02:20.920
be crawling

01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:21.300
on the

01:02:21.300 --> 01:02:21.600
floor

01:02:21.600 --> 01:02:21.940
you know

01:02:21.940 --> 01:02:22.460
just after

01:02:22.460 --> 01:02:22.760
I puke

01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:23.160
my guts

01:02:23.160 --> 01:02:23.360
out

01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:23.620
and say

01:02:23.620 --> 01:02:23.860
yo

01:02:23.860 --> 01:02:24.160
who's up

01:02:24.160 --> 01:02:24.680
for shots

01:02:24.680 --> 01:02:26.060
which is

01:02:26.060 --> 01:02:26.500
actually

01:02:26.500 --> 01:02:27.040
it's a

01:02:27.040 --> 01:02:27.840
great segue

01:02:27.840 --> 01:02:28.720
into what

01:02:28.720 --> 01:02:29.260
introzone is

01:02:29.260 --> 01:02:29.980
really about

01:02:29.980 --> 01:02:30.260
drinking

01:02:30.260 --> 01:02:31.500
that's right

01:02:31.500 --> 01:02:34.340
is there a

01:02:34.340 --> 01:02:34.720
convention

01:02:34.720 --> 01:02:35.260
is there a

01:02:35.260 --> 01:02:35.800
hacker convention

01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:36.320
that's not

01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:36.960
about drinking

01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:38.460
not that I

01:02:38.460 --> 01:02:39.080
know of

01:02:39.080 --> 01:02:40.100
I had two

01:02:40.100 --> 01:02:40.560
beers the

01:02:40.560 --> 01:02:41.060
whole time

01:02:41.060 --> 01:02:41.580
other than we

01:02:41.580 --> 01:02:41.940
went out to

01:02:41.940 --> 01:02:42.460
like a

01:02:42.460 --> 01:02:42.820
restaurant

01:02:42.820 --> 01:02:43.260
hell you

01:02:43.260 --> 01:02:43.500
should have

01:02:43.500 --> 01:02:44.540
seen a

01:02:44.540 --> 01:02:45.080
tour con

01:02:45.080 --> 01:02:45.820
Microsoft

01:02:45.820 --> 01:02:47.280
actually sponsored

01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:48.400
the bar

01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:49.200
the one night

01:02:49.200 --> 01:02:49.640
so they gave

01:02:49.640 --> 01:02:50.160
us all drink

01:02:50.160 --> 01:02:50.340
tickets

01:02:50.340 --> 01:02:50.740
I already made

01:02:50.740 --> 01:02:51.200
that joke

01:02:51.200 --> 01:02:51.520
once

01:02:51.520 --> 01:02:52.060
but you

01:02:52.060 --> 01:02:52.420
weren't allowed

01:02:52.420 --> 01:02:52.780
to share

01:02:52.780 --> 01:02:53.060
them

01:02:53.060 --> 01:02:55.060
yeah I

01:02:55.060 --> 01:02:55.600
forget

01:02:55.600 --> 01:02:58.920
I don't

01:02:58.920 --> 01:02:59.340
know who

01:02:59.340 --> 01:02:59.740
did that

01:02:59.740 --> 01:03:00.020
joke

01:03:00.020 --> 01:03:00.360
but that

01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:01.080
was like

01:03:01.080 --> 01:03:01.380
the best

01:03:01.380 --> 01:03:01.680
joke

01:03:01.680 --> 01:03:01.940
ever

01:03:01.940 --> 01:03:02.460
I made

01:03:02.460 --> 01:03:03.080
that joke

01:03:03.080 --> 01:03:03.660
oh you

01:03:03.660 --> 01:03:04.100
made that

01:03:04.100 --> 01:03:04.400
joke

01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:04.980
that's why

01:03:04.980 --> 01:03:05.600
I said it

01:03:05.600 --> 01:03:06.000
again

01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:06.760
oh okay

01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:07.860
it was

01:03:07.860 --> 01:03:08.380
it was literally

01:03:08.380 --> 01:03:08.820
the best

01:03:08.820 --> 01:03:09.720
joke ever

01:03:09.720 --> 01:03:10.200
nice

01:03:10.200 --> 01:03:12.800
so anyway

01:03:12.800 --> 01:03:14.100
so

01:03:14.100 --> 01:03:14.380
so

01:03:14.380 --> 01:03:14.740
interzone

01:03:14.740 --> 01:03:15.040
is all

01:03:15.040 --> 01:03:15.220
about

01:03:15.220 --> 01:03:15.520
drinking

01:03:15.520 --> 01:03:15.780
eh

01:03:15.780 --> 01:03:17.060
no

01:03:17.060 --> 01:03:17.360
well

01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:17.840
that

01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:18.120
and

01:03:18.120 --> 01:03:19.360
having

01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:19.660
other

01:03:19.660 --> 01:03:19.960
cons

01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:20.260
in the

01:03:20.260 --> 01:03:20.460
same

01:03:20.460 --> 01:03:20.900
hotel

01:03:20.900 --> 01:03:21.820
well

01:03:21.820 --> 01:03:24.180
there were

01:03:24.180 --> 01:03:24.360
a lot

01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:24.640
of really

01:03:24.640 --> 01:03:24.980
interesting

01:03:24.980 --> 01:03:25.520
presentations

01:03:25.520 --> 01:03:25.920
also

01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:26.240
that went

01:03:26.240 --> 01:03:26.600
along

01:03:26.600 --> 01:03:27.700
at this

01:03:27.700 --> 01:03:28.140
interzone

01:03:28.140 --> 01:03:28.540
and you

01:03:28.540 --> 01:03:28.620
know

01:03:28.620 --> 01:03:28.920
if I

01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:29.100
could

01:03:29.100 --> 01:03:29.260
I'm

01:03:29.260 --> 01:03:29.360
just

01:03:29.360 --> 01:03:29.480
going to

01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:29.640
talk

01:03:29.640 --> 01:03:29.800
about

01:03:29.800 --> 01:03:30.020
my

01:03:30.020 --> 01:03:30.320
favorite

01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:30.600
and then

01:03:30.600 --> 01:03:30.720
if

01:03:30.720 --> 01:03:30.860
Drew

01:03:30.860 --> 01:03:31.260
wants to

01:03:31.260 --> 01:03:31.620
jump in

01:03:31.620 --> 01:03:31.920
and talk

01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:32.140
about

01:03:32.140 --> 01:03:32.300
one

01:03:32.300 --> 01:03:32.640
of his

01:03:32.640 --> 01:03:33.340
but

01:03:33.340 --> 01:03:34.360
on the

01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:34.520
very

01:03:34.520 --> 01:03:34.960
first day

01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:35.240
I got

01:03:35.240 --> 01:03:35.400
there

01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:35.680
we got

01:03:35.680 --> 01:03:35.800
there

01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:35.980
like

01:03:35.980 --> 01:03:36.400
7 in

01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:36.500
the

01:03:36.500 --> 01:03:36.780
morning

01:03:36.780 --> 01:03:37.380
and I

01:03:37.380 --> 01:03:37.640
waited

01:03:37.640 --> 01:03:38.300
with

01:03:38.300 --> 01:03:39.300
bated

01:03:39.300 --> 01:03:39.780
breasts

01:03:39.780 --> 01:03:40.480
for

01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:41.880
coding

01:03:41.880 --> 01:03:42.360
101

01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:42.880
thinking

01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:43.160
you know

01:03:43.160 --> 01:03:43.320
what

01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:43.560
this is

01:03:43.560 --> 01:03:43.700
going to

01:03:43.700 --> 01:03:43.820
be

01:03:43.820 --> 01:03:44.220
great

01:03:44.220 --> 01:03:44.740
I'm

01:03:44.740 --> 01:03:44.900
going to

01:03:44.900 --> 01:03:45.120
take

01:03:45.120 --> 01:03:45.620
Logos

01:03:45.620 --> 01:03:45.800
and

01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:46.000
Super

01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:46.300
KP

01:03:46.300 --> 01:03:46.620
down

01:03:46.620 --> 01:03:46.840
to

01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:47.040
it

01:03:47.040 --> 01:03:47.460
and

01:03:47.460 --> 01:03:47.600
they're

01:03:47.600 --> 01:03:47.740
going to

01:03:47.740 --> 01:03:47.880
learn

01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:48.400
all about

01:03:48.400 --> 01:03:49.160
basics

01:03:49.160 --> 01:03:49.660
of C

01:03:49.660 --> 01:03:50.040
etc

01:03:50.040 --> 01:03:50.400
etc

01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:51.980
no

01:03:51.980 --> 01:03:52.520
coding

01:03:52.520 --> 01:03:52.800
101

01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:53.140
was

01:03:53.140 --> 01:03:53.580
definitely

01:03:53.580 --> 01:03:53.980
some

01:03:53.980 --> 01:03:54.440
advanced

01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:54.840
C

01:03:54.840 --> 01:03:56.140
a lot

01:03:56.140 --> 01:03:56.340
of it

01:03:56.340 --> 01:03:56.580
was

01:03:56.580 --> 01:03:57.160
PHP

01:03:57.160 --> 01:03:57.860
extensions

01:03:57.860 --> 01:03:58.900
which

01:03:58.900 --> 01:03:59.180
is

01:03:59.180 --> 01:03:59.880
a really

01:03:59.880 --> 01:04:00.160
really

01:04:00.160 --> 01:04:00.500
cool

01:04:00.500 --> 01:04:00.800
thing

01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:01.220
to do

01:04:01.220 --> 01:04:01.900
but

01:04:02.640 --> 01:04:02.960
have a

01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:03.160
good

01:04:03.160 --> 01:04:03.600
grasp

01:04:03.600 --> 01:04:03.800
of

01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:04.120
C

01:04:04.120 --> 01:04:04.840
and

01:04:04.840 --> 01:04:05.320
PHP

01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:05.640
it's

01:04:05.640 --> 01:04:05.760
not

01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:05.880
going

01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:05.920
to

01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:06.080
make

01:04:06.080 --> 01:04:06.260
any

01:04:06.260 --> 01:04:06.580
sense

01:04:06.580 --> 01:04:07.180
and

01:04:07.180 --> 01:04:07.300
the

01:04:07.300 --> 01:04:07.500
long

01:04:07.500 --> 01:04:07.760
story

01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:08.100
short

01:04:08.100 --> 01:04:08.480
is

01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:09.160
basically

01:04:09.160 --> 01:04:09.420
you can

01:04:09.420 --> 01:04:09.780
write your

01:04:09.780 --> 01:04:10.100
own

01:04:10.100 --> 01:04:10.480
PHP

01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:10.900
functions

01:04:10.900 --> 01:04:11.220
that are

01:04:11.220 --> 01:04:11.300
going to

01:04:11.300 --> 01:04:11.940
be compiled

01:04:11.940 --> 01:04:13.120
and actually

01:04:13.120 --> 01:04:13.840
become part

01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:14.160
of the

01:04:14.160 --> 01:04:14.460
site

01:04:14.460 --> 01:04:15.060
so you can

01:04:15.060 --> 01:04:15.300
use it

01:04:15.300 --> 01:04:15.540
just like

01:04:15.540 --> 01:04:15.860
a regular

01:04:15.860 --> 01:04:16.260
PHP

01:04:16.260 --> 01:04:16.780
function

01:04:16.780 --> 01:04:17.380
couple

01:04:17.380 --> 01:04:17.840
advantages

01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:18.400
of that

01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:19.180
as the

01:04:19.180 --> 01:04:19.540
gentleman

01:04:19.540 --> 01:04:19.980
was talking

01:04:19.980 --> 01:04:20.300
about

01:04:20.300 --> 01:04:20.660
was

01:04:20.660 --> 01:04:22.580
that

01:04:22.580 --> 01:04:22.940
it's

01:04:22.940 --> 01:04:23.320
faster

01:04:23.320 --> 01:04:23.860
it's

01:04:23.860 --> 01:04:24.040
already

01:04:24.040 --> 01:04:24.500
compiled

01:04:24.500 --> 01:04:24.820
it's

01:04:24.820 --> 01:04:25.040
not going

01:04:25.040 --> 01:04:25.200
to have

01:04:25.200 --> 01:04:25.400
to be

01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:25.720
compiled

01:04:25.720 --> 01:04:25.980
as

01:04:25.980 --> 01:04:26.140
or

01:04:26.140 --> 01:04:26.520
scripted

01:04:26.520 --> 01:04:26.660
as

01:04:26.660 --> 01:04:26.780
it's

01:04:26.780 --> 01:04:27.060
going

01:04:27.060 --> 01:04:28.060
next

01:04:28.060 --> 01:04:30.620
even

01:04:30.620 --> 01:04:30.860
if

01:04:30.860 --> 01:04:31.840
you're

01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:32.000
just

01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:32.260
serving

01:04:32.260 --> 01:04:32.440
out

01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:32.780
PHP

01:04:32.780 --> 01:04:33.020
it's

01:04:33.020 --> 01:04:33.180
always

01:04:33.180 --> 01:04:33.500
possible

01:04:33.500 --> 01:04:33.720
someone

01:04:33.720 --> 01:04:33.900
could

01:04:33.900 --> 01:04:34.040
get

01:04:34.040 --> 01:04:34.280
access

01:04:34.280 --> 01:04:34.460
to

01:04:34.460 --> 01:04:34.580
the

01:04:34.580 --> 01:04:34.780
source

01:04:34.780 --> 01:04:35.000
code

01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:35.200
of the

01:04:35.200 --> 01:04:35.520
PHP

01:04:35.520 --> 01:04:36.200
somehow

01:04:36.200 --> 01:04:36.920
through

01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:37.140
some

01:04:37.140 --> 01:04:37.560
exploit

01:04:37.560 --> 01:04:38.420
if it's

01:04:38.420 --> 01:04:38.580
already

01:04:38.580 --> 01:04:39.000
compiled

01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:39.280
in

01:04:39.280 --> 01:04:39.500
it's

01:04:39.500 --> 01:04:39.600
going to

01:04:39.600 --> 01:04:40.040
be a lot

01:04:40.040 --> 01:04:40.220
more

01:04:40.220 --> 01:04:40.500
difficult

01:04:40.500 --> 01:04:41.020
for somebody

01:04:41.020 --> 01:04:41.760
to get

01:04:41.760 --> 01:04:42.120
in there

01:04:42.120 --> 01:04:43.240
perfect example

01:04:43.240 --> 01:04:43.760
of something

01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:44.120
that you

01:04:44.120 --> 01:04:44.520
would want

01:04:44.520 --> 01:04:44.820
hidden

01:04:44.820 --> 01:04:45.400
like that

01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:45.740
let's

01:04:45.740 --> 01:04:46.040
say

01:04:46.040 --> 01:04:46.780
we were

01:04:46.780 --> 01:04:46.900
talking

01:04:46.900 --> 01:04:47.040
about

01:04:47.040 --> 01:04:48.300
a ranking

01:04:48.300 --> 01:04:48.900
algorithm

01:04:48.900 --> 01:04:49.680
you don't

01:04:49.680 --> 01:04:50.000
want

01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:51.660
everybody to

01:04:51.660 --> 01:04:51.780
know

01:04:51.780 --> 01:04:52.100
exactly

01:04:52.100 --> 01:04:52.420
how it

01:04:52.420 --> 01:04:52.780
works

01:04:52.780 --> 01:04:53.280
because

01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:53.520
people

01:04:53.520 --> 01:04:53.640
are

01:04:53.640 --> 01:04:53.740
going

01:04:53.740 --> 01:04:53.980
to be

01:04:53.980 --> 01:04:54.460
able

01:04:54.460 --> 01:04:54.600
to

01:04:54.600 --> 01:04:54.820
best

01:04:54.820 --> 01:04:55.020
it

01:04:55.020 --> 01:04:55.900
so

01:04:55.900 --> 01:04:56.100
that

01:04:56.100 --> 01:04:56.360
coding

01:04:56.360 --> 01:04:56.640
101

01:04:56.640 --> 01:04:57.080
lecture

01:04:57.080 --> 01:04:57.460
it was

01:04:57.460 --> 01:04:57.760
all

01:04:57.760 --> 01:04:58.060
day

01:04:58.060 --> 01:04:58.320
too

01:04:58.320 --> 01:04:58.500
it was

01:04:58.500 --> 01:04:58.680
two

01:04:58.680 --> 01:04:59.140
sessions

01:04:59.140 --> 01:04:59.880
by a

01:04:59.880 --> 01:05:00.080
very

01:05:00.080 --> 01:05:00.320
very

01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:00.720
intelligent

01:05:00.720 --> 01:05:01.020
man

01:05:01.020 --> 01:05:01.200
and

01:05:01.200 --> 01:05:01.540
you know

01:05:01.540 --> 01:05:01.780
if

01:05:01.780 --> 01:05:02.980
I'm

01:05:02.980 --> 01:05:03.540
sorry

01:05:03.540 --> 01:05:03.740
I don't

01:05:03.740 --> 01:05:04.040
remember

01:05:04.040 --> 01:05:04.540
his name

01:05:04.540 --> 01:05:05.140
but

01:05:05.140 --> 01:05:05.740
he

01:05:05.740 --> 01:05:06.280
definitely

01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:06.840
has a lot

01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:07.360
of experience

01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:07.800
with it

01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:08.200
and

01:05:08.200 --> 01:05:08.520
PHP

01:05:08.520 --> 01:05:08.940
extensions

01:05:08.940 --> 01:05:09.560
was it

01:05:09.560 --> 01:05:09.800
Richard

01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:10.940
but

01:05:10.940 --> 01:05:12.960
he was

01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:13.520
a great

01:05:13.520 --> 01:05:14.020
guy as well

01:05:14.020 --> 01:05:14.320
I had a

01:05:14.320 --> 01:05:14.660
chance to

01:05:14.660 --> 01:05:14.960
speak with

01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:15.180
him

01:05:15.180 --> 01:05:15.820
separately

01:05:15.820 --> 01:05:16.620
but

01:05:16.620 --> 01:05:17.360
they also

01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:18.220
put out

01:05:18.220 --> 01:05:19.540
he was

01:05:19.540 --> 01:05:19.900
showing us

01:05:19.900 --> 01:05:20.220
one of the

01:05:20.220 --> 01:05:20.560
tools

01:05:20.560 --> 01:05:22.560
I don't

01:05:22.560 --> 01:05:22.740
know if

01:05:22.740 --> 01:05:23.040
I really

01:05:23.040 --> 01:05:23.460
agreed with

01:05:23.460 --> 01:05:23.720
the tool

01:05:23.720 --> 01:05:23.980
because I

01:05:23.980 --> 01:05:24.240
think it's

01:05:24.240 --> 01:05:24.520
a bad

01:05:24.520 --> 01:05:24.820
idea

01:05:25.020 --> 01:05:25.500
be copying

01:05:25.500 --> 01:05:25.980
and pasting

01:05:25.980 --> 01:05:26.340
code

01:05:26.340 --> 01:05:26.960
but it

01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:27.300
was something

01:05:27.300 --> 01:05:27.660
where you

01:05:27.660 --> 01:05:28.140
could type

01:05:28.140 --> 01:05:28.940
in a

01:05:28.940 --> 01:05:29.300
couple of

01:05:29.300 --> 01:05:29.660
words

01:05:29.660 --> 01:05:30.580
highlight it

01:05:30.580 --> 01:05:31.160
click ok

01:05:31.160 --> 01:05:31.540
in this

01:05:31.540 --> 01:05:31.960
box

01:05:31.960 --> 01:05:32.480
and it

01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:32.600
would

01:05:32.600 --> 01:05:33.040
instantly

01:05:33.040 --> 01:05:33.860
paste code

01:05:33.860 --> 01:05:34.400
that was

01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:34.900
relevant to

01:05:34.900 --> 01:05:35.320
those words

01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:35.560
that you

01:05:35.560 --> 01:05:36.080
typed in

01:05:36.080 --> 01:05:36.560
it's

01:05:36.560 --> 01:05:36.740
something

01:05:36.740 --> 01:05:36.900
that

01:05:36.900 --> 01:05:37.240
apparently

01:05:37.240 --> 01:05:37.480
has been

01:05:37.480 --> 01:05:37.940
around for

01:05:37.940 --> 01:05:38.200
a long

01:05:38.200 --> 01:05:38.400
time

01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:38.740
people have

01:05:38.740 --> 01:05:38.820
been

01:05:38.820 --> 01:05:39.160
continually

01:05:39.160 --> 01:05:39.620
developing

01:05:39.620 --> 01:05:39.920
it

01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:40.720
and

01:05:40.720 --> 01:05:41.460
something

01:05:41.460 --> 01:05:41.780
about a

01:05:41.780 --> 01:05:42.100
conference

01:05:42.100 --> 01:05:42.520
that's always

01:05:42.520 --> 01:05:42.900
nice

01:05:42.900 --> 01:05:43.780
is you

01:05:43.780 --> 01:05:44.080
can see

01:05:44.080 --> 01:05:44.420
things that

01:05:44.420 --> 01:05:44.920
you otherwise

01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:45.580
might not

01:05:45.580 --> 01:05:45.800
have been

01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:46.380
interested in

01:05:46.380 --> 01:05:46.740
or might

01:05:46.740 --> 01:05:47.040
not have

01:05:47.040 --> 01:05:47.300
seen

01:05:47.300 --> 01:05:48.640
and that

01:05:48.640 --> 01:05:49.600
was my

01:05:49.600 --> 01:05:50.340
favorite talk

01:05:50.340 --> 01:05:50.640
of the

01:05:50.640 --> 01:05:50.960
entire

01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:51.300
thing

01:05:51.300 --> 01:05:52.040
except for

01:05:52.040 --> 01:05:52.340
of course

01:05:55.020 --> 01:05:56.260
from there

01:05:56.260 --> 01:05:58.960
any conference

01:05:58.960 --> 01:05:59.320
is really

01:05:59.320 --> 01:05:59.600
going to have

01:05:59.600 --> 01:05:59.980
a great

01:05:59.980 --> 01:06:00.480
series of

01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:00.760
talks

01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:01.200
and inner

01:06:01.200 --> 01:06:01.440
zone

01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:02.580
is no

01:06:02.580 --> 01:06:02.920
exception

01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:03.260
to that

01:06:03.260 --> 01:06:03.520
rule

01:06:03.520 --> 01:06:06.420
so why don't

01:06:06.420 --> 01:06:06.700
we talk

01:06:06.700 --> 01:06:06.980
about the

01:06:06.980 --> 01:06:07.420
other talk

01:06:07.420 --> 01:06:07.740
in the

01:06:07.740 --> 01:06:08.380
20 minutes

01:06:08.380 --> 01:06:08.640
we have

01:06:08.640 --> 01:06:08.900
left

01:06:08.900 --> 01:06:12.740
well I

01:06:12.740 --> 01:06:13.060
went to

01:06:13.060 --> 01:06:13.940
a talk

01:06:13.940 --> 01:06:14.460
on how

01:06:14.460 --> 01:06:16.100
to do

01:06:16.100 --> 01:06:16.560
some video

01:06:16.560 --> 01:06:16.960
editing

01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:19.940
and

01:06:19.940 --> 01:06:20.840
I heard

01:06:20.840 --> 01:06:21.140
the guy

01:06:21.140 --> 01:06:21.880
was like

01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:22.280
a total

01:06:22.280 --> 01:06:22.600
noob

01:06:22.600 --> 01:06:22.840
and had

01:06:22.840 --> 01:06:23.320
no clue

01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:23.480
what he

01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:23.820
was talking

01:06:23.820 --> 01:06:24.140
about

01:06:24.140 --> 01:06:24.760
and he's

01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:25.220
like released

01:06:25.220 --> 01:06:25.880
like some

01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:26.520
like brand

01:06:26.520 --> 01:06:26.860
new

01:06:26.860 --> 01:06:27.740
actually yeah

01:06:27.740 --> 01:06:27.960
we didn't

01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:28.180
talk

01:06:28.180 --> 01:06:29.060
we'll bring

01:06:29.060 --> 01:06:29.320
that up

01:06:29.320 --> 01:06:29.840
on announcements

01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:31.480
droopsisanoob

01:06:31.480 --> 01:06:33.300
at gmail.com

01:06:33.300 --> 01:06:34.620
droopsisanoob

01:06:34.620 --> 01:06:35.300
at gmail.com

01:06:35.300 --> 01:06:36.740
so yes

01:06:36.740 --> 01:06:38.140
Zygman you

01:06:38.140 --> 01:06:38.680
gave a talk

01:06:38.680 --> 01:06:39.060
correct

01:06:39.060 --> 01:06:39.960
I did

01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:40.420
I gave a

01:06:40.420 --> 01:06:40.860
presentation

01:06:40.860 --> 01:06:41.520
on quick

01:06:41.520 --> 01:06:42.080
and easy

01:06:42.080 --> 01:06:42.720
digital video

01:06:42.720 --> 01:06:43.040
editing

01:06:43.040 --> 01:06:43.760
droops was

01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:44.180
nice enough

01:06:44.180 --> 01:06:44.800
to erase

01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:45.400
the digital

01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:45.920
video editing

01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:46.420
part of the

01:06:46.420 --> 01:06:46.680
title

01:06:46.680 --> 01:06:47.560
and just

01:06:47.560 --> 01:06:47.800
leave it

01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:48.180
as Dr.

01:06:48.240 --> 01:06:48.460
Zygman

01:06:48.460 --> 01:06:49.140
quick and

01:06:49.140 --> 01:06:49.460
easy

01:06:49.460 --> 01:06:52.880
oh god

01:06:52.880 --> 01:06:53.640
you could

01:06:53.640 --> 01:06:54.040
take that

01:06:54.040 --> 01:06:54.200
one

01:06:54.200 --> 01:06:54.420
totally

01:06:54.420 --> 01:06:54.720
the wrong

01:06:54.720 --> 01:06:55.020
way

01:06:55.020 --> 01:06:57.200
that was

01:06:57.200 --> 01:06:57.360
nice

01:06:57.360 --> 01:06:58.300
at noon

01:06:58.300 --> 01:07:00.260
droopsisanoob

01:07:00.260 --> 01:07:00.580
gave a

01:07:00.580 --> 01:07:01.040
presentation

01:07:01.040 --> 01:07:01.420
as well

01:07:01.420 --> 01:07:01.920
along with

01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:02.440
pony boy

01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:02.700
who was

01:07:02.700 --> 01:07:02.920
on the

01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:03.220
show a

01:07:03.220 --> 01:07:03.640
little bit

01:07:03.640 --> 01:07:04.220
ago

01:07:04.220 --> 01:07:04.780
and that

01:07:04.780 --> 01:07:05.160
was on

01:07:05.160 --> 01:07:05.480
why don't

01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:05.740
you tell us

01:07:05.740 --> 01:07:06.140
about that

01:07:06.140 --> 01:07:07.380
droopsisanoob

01:07:07.380 --> 01:07:08.700
well they

01:07:08.700 --> 01:07:09.160
had a couple

01:07:09.160 --> 01:07:09.740
extra spots

01:07:09.740 --> 01:07:10.200
they needed to

01:07:10.200 --> 01:07:10.540
fill for

01:07:10.540 --> 01:07:11.220
Sunday evening

01:07:11.220 --> 01:07:12.600
or Sunday

01:07:12.600 --> 01:07:13.000
afternoon

01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:14.220
so they

01:07:14.220 --> 01:07:14.840
asked us

01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:15.280
or I think

01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:15.600
stinky

01:07:15.600 --> 01:07:16.440
volunteered us

01:07:16.440 --> 01:07:17.940
to give a

01:07:17.940 --> 01:07:18.480
talk on

01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:19.040
something

01:07:19.040 --> 01:07:20.140
and we

01:07:20.140 --> 01:07:20.560
decided we

01:07:20.560 --> 01:07:20.980
talked about

01:07:20.980 --> 01:07:21.540
hacker media

01:07:21.540 --> 01:07:22.140
and if

01:07:22.140 --> 01:07:22.240
you

01:07:22.240 --> 01:07:22.720
listened to

01:07:22.720 --> 01:07:23.080
I think

01:07:23.080 --> 01:07:23.260
it's

01:07:23.260 --> 01:07:23.640
today's

01:07:23.640 --> 01:07:23.940
twat

01:07:23.940 --> 01:07:24.380
episode

01:07:24.380 --> 01:07:25.120
or tomorrow's

01:07:25.120 --> 01:07:25.360
twat

01:07:25.360 --> 01:07:25.800
episode

01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:26.720
you'll be able

01:07:26.720 --> 01:07:27.000
to listen

01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:27.280
to the

01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:27.640
talk

01:07:27.640 --> 01:07:29.680
so we

01:07:29.680 --> 01:07:30.380
talked about

01:07:30.380 --> 01:07:30.900
things and

01:07:30.900 --> 01:07:31.240
made some

01:07:31.240 --> 01:07:31.900
funny jokes

01:07:31.900 --> 01:07:33.000
and then we

01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:33.520
had a big

01:07:33.520 --> 01:07:34.380
party at the

01:07:34.380 --> 01:07:34.800
end when

01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:35.320
everyone left

01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:35.540
there was

01:07:35.540 --> 01:07:35.900
like 12

01:07:35.900 --> 01:07:36.340
people in

01:07:36.340 --> 01:07:36.600
there

01:07:36.600 --> 01:07:39.300
but whatever

01:07:39.300 --> 01:07:39.860
it was a good

01:07:39.860 --> 01:07:40.220
time

01:07:40.220 --> 01:07:42.340
big party

01:07:42.340 --> 01:07:43.200
mrs droops

01:07:43.200 --> 01:07:43.460
on the

01:07:43.460 --> 01:07:43.880
stripper pole

01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:45.380
what's that

01:07:45.380 --> 01:07:47.300
a big party

01:07:47.300 --> 01:07:47.820
mrs droops

01:07:47.820 --> 01:07:48.080
on the

01:07:48.080 --> 01:07:48.500
stripper pole

01:07:48.500 --> 01:07:50.040
yeah mrs droops

01:07:50.040 --> 01:07:50.460
was on the

01:07:50.460 --> 01:07:51.160
stripper pole

01:07:51.160 --> 01:07:53.120
and she was

01:07:53.120 --> 01:07:53.880
twirling around

01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:57.600
good times

01:07:57.600 --> 01:07:58.520
seriously

01:07:58.520 --> 01:07:59.620
if I ever

01:07:59.620 --> 01:08:00.100
see her

01:08:00.100 --> 01:08:00.600
again

01:08:00.600 --> 01:08:01.080
I'm going to

01:08:01.080 --> 01:08:01.540
just get

01:08:01.540 --> 01:08:02.120
slapped

01:08:02.120 --> 01:08:03.000
yeah

01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:03.960
I tell her

01:08:03.960 --> 01:08:04.400
everything you

01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:05.680
say

01:08:05.680 --> 01:08:07.680
remember that

01:08:07.680 --> 01:08:08.300
quiet guy

01:08:08.300 --> 01:08:09.320
playing with

01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:09.820
his phone

01:08:09.820 --> 01:08:11.360
she's like

01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:12.140
which one

01:08:12.140 --> 01:08:16.240
yeah I mean

01:08:16.240 --> 01:08:16.560
that really

01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:17.000
doesn't narrow

01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:17.460
it down

01:08:17.460 --> 01:08:20.720
technically you

01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:21.060
could say the

01:08:21.060 --> 01:08:21.680
fat guy who

01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:22.180
was quiet and

01:08:22.180 --> 01:08:22.500
played with

01:08:22.500 --> 01:08:22.760
the phone

01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:23.020
that would

01:08:23.020 --> 01:08:23.420
probably you

01:08:23.420 --> 01:08:24.140
know narrow

01:08:24.140 --> 01:08:24.440
it down

01:08:24.440 --> 01:08:26.320
the fat guy

01:08:26.320 --> 01:08:26.920
black shirt

01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:27.840
you know

01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:28.180
had the

01:08:28.180 --> 01:08:28.380
phone

01:08:28.380 --> 01:08:28.840
quiet

01:08:28.840 --> 01:08:32.980
anyway

01:08:32.980 --> 01:08:35.200
so what

01:08:35.200 --> 01:08:35.660
did you

01:08:35.660 --> 01:08:36.100
talk about

01:08:36.100 --> 01:08:37.520
yeah I

01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:37.720
was going to

01:08:37.720 --> 01:08:37.860
say

01:08:37.860 --> 01:08:38.100
Stank

01:08:38.100 --> 01:08:40.640
so

01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:41.760
Stank

01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:42.120
Stank

01:08:42.120 --> 01:08:42.980
was the

01:08:42.980 --> 01:08:44.340
one on

01:08:44.340 --> 01:08:44.680
metadata

01:08:44.680 --> 01:08:45.380
wasn't it

01:08:45.380 --> 01:08:46.780
yes it was

01:08:46.780 --> 01:08:47.280
on metadata

01:08:47.280 --> 01:08:48.900
and it was

01:08:48.900 --> 01:08:49.440
very funny

01:08:49.440 --> 01:08:50.740
and very

01:08:50.740 --> 01:08:51.280
informative

01:08:51.280 --> 01:08:52.340
and he got a

01:08:52.340 --> 01:08:52.860
lot of claps

01:08:52.860 --> 01:08:53.420
off of his

01:08:53.420 --> 01:08:53.860
didn't he use

01:08:53.860 --> 01:08:54.360
a photo of

01:08:54.360 --> 01:08:54.820
you and I

01:08:54.820 --> 01:08:55.120
ratchet

01:08:55.120 --> 01:08:57.240
he did not

01:08:57.240 --> 01:08:57.840
actually use

01:08:57.840 --> 01:08:58.420
oh he didn't

01:08:58.420 --> 01:08:58.940
okay he was

01:08:58.940 --> 01:08:59.520
planning on

01:08:59.520 --> 01:09:00.460
actually

01:09:00.460 --> 01:09:01.180
he had like

01:09:01.180 --> 01:09:01.640
a monkey

01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:02.220
spinning

01:09:02.220 --> 01:09:02.840
I remember

01:09:02.840 --> 01:09:03.280
that

01:09:03.280 --> 01:09:04.980
why don't you

01:09:04.980 --> 01:09:05.280
tell him about

01:09:05.280 --> 01:09:05.620
the story about

01:09:05.620 --> 01:09:06.120
how they tracked

01:09:06.120 --> 01:09:06.900
down that kid

01:09:06.900 --> 01:09:09.180
okay

01:09:09.180 --> 01:09:09.660
well

01:09:09.660 --> 01:09:10.980
Stanky

01:09:10.980 --> 01:09:11.680
had asked

01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:11.940
a couple

01:09:11.940 --> 01:09:12.360
of us

01:09:12.360 --> 01:09:13.120
you know

01:09:13.120 --> 01:09:13.860
if we could

01:09:13.860 --> 01:09:14.120
think of

01:09:14.120 --> 01:09:14.600
examples

01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:15.780
and like

01:09:15.780 --> 01:09:16.080
the day

01:09:16.080 --> 01:09:16.660
he asked

01:09:16.660 --> 01:09:17.060
I was

01:09:17.060 --> 01:09:17.400
reading

01:09:17.400 --> 01:09:17.940
I don't

01:09:17.940 --> 01:09:18.000
know

01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:18.180
probably

01:09:18.180 --> 01:09:18.720
slash dot

01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:19.440
and I

01:09:19.440 --> 01:09:19.740
found a

01:09:19.740 --> 01:09:20.000
perfect

01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:20.360
example

01:09:20.360 --> 01:09:20.660
for his

01:09:20.660 --> 01:09:21.000
talk

01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:22.180
and there

01:09:22.180 --> 01:09:22.500
was this

01:09:22.500 --> 01:09:22.800
kid

01:09:22.800 --> 01:09:23.140
who has

01:09:23.140 --> 01:09:23.420
like a

01:09:23.420 --> 01:09:23.940
botnet

01:09:23.940 --> 01:09:24.800
and he

01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:25.280
was interviewed

01:09:25.280 --> 01:09:26.120
by somebody

01:09:26.120 --> 01:09:27.260
that was

01:09:27.260 --> 01:09:27.720
with the

01:09:27.720 --> 01:09:28.560
Associated Press

01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:29.860
and he

01:09:29.860 --> 01:09:30.700
lived in

01:09:30.700 --> 01:09:31.140
like a

01:09:31.140 --> 01:09:31.940
mobile home

01:09:31.940 --> 01:09:33.180
across the

01:09:33.180 --> 01:09:33.480
street from

01:09:33.480 --> 01:09:33.780
a strip

01:09:33.780 --> 01:09:34.220
club in

01:09:34.220 --> 01:09:34.660
some little

01:09:34.660 --> 01:09:35.640
small town

01:09:35.640 --> 01:09:37.020
and it was

01:09:37.020 --> 01:09:37.720
on slash dot

01:09:37.720 --> 01:09:38.340
well people

01:09:38.340 --> 01:09:39.080
there was a

01:09:39.080 --> 01:09:39.660
photo of this

01:09:39.660 --> 01:09:40.020
guy that was

01:09:40.020 --> 01:09:40.560
all shady

01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:41.480
and mysterious

01:09:41.480 --> 01:09:41.940
looking

01:09:41.940 --> 01:09:42.660
well the

01:09:42.660 --> 01:09:43.440
Associated Press

01:09:43.440 --> 01:09:44.320
embeds extra

01:09:44.320 --> 01:09:45.700
metadata in

01:09:45.700 --> 01:09:46.180
their pictures

01:09:46.180 --> 01:09:47.440
so they can

01:09:47.440 --> 01:09:48.020
help keep track

01:09:48.020 --> 01:09:48.380
of that kind

01:09:48.380 --> 01:09:48.700
of shit

01:09:48.700 --> 01:09:49.760
and it

01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:50.080
narrowed it

01:09:50.080 --> 01:09:50.480
down to what

01:09:50.480 --> 01:09:51.200
town it was

01:09:51.200 --> 01:09:51.660
and then the

01:09:51.660 --> 01:09:52.000
people on

01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:52.520
slash dot

01:09:52.520 --> 01:09:53.020
figured out

01:09:53.020 --> 01:09:53.320
oh here's

01:09:53.320 --> 01:09:53.620
the strip

01:09:53.620 --> 01:09:54.040
club and the

01:09:54.040 --> 01:09:54.560
gas station

01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:54.880
and the used

01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:55.400
car lot that

01:09:55.400 --> 01:09:55.700
he talked

01:09:55.700 --> 01:09:55.980
about

01:09:55.980 --> 01:09:56.860
so that's

01:09:56.860 --> 01:09:57.340
probably right

01:09:57.340 --> 01:09:57.620
where he

01:09:57.620 --> 01:09:57.900
lives

01:09:57.900 --> 01:09:58.840
here's a

01:09:58.840 --> 01:09:59.220
GPS

01:09:59.220 --> 01:09:59.640
you know

01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:00.220
a satellite

01:10:00.220 --> 01:10:00.800
photo of

01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:01.620
it

01:10:01.620 --> 01:10:04.280
very very

01:10:04.280 --> 01:10:04.520
classic

01:10:04.520 --> 01:10:04.880
and this

01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:05.280
was somebody

01:10:05.280 --> 01:10:05.540
who was

01:10:05.540 --> 01:10:06.240
totally anonymous

01:10:06.240 --> 01:10:06.840
apparently

01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:07.760
yeah

01:10:07.760 --> 01:10:08.440
and like

01:10:08.440 --> 01:10:09.340
the kid

01:10:09.340 --> 01:10:09.680
himself

01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:10.080
didn't get

01:10:10.080 --> 01:10:10.400
himself

01:10:10.400 --> 01:10:10.800
owned

01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:11.200
it was

01:10:11.200 --> 01:10:11.780
because of

01:10:11.780 --> 01:10:12.280
the Associated

01:10:12.280 --> 01:10:12.640
Press

01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:13.740
and you know

01:10:13.740 --> 01:10:14.180
he gave

01:10:14.180 --> 01:10:14.720
clues

01:10:14.720 --> 01:10:15.160
like he was

01:10:15.160 --> 01:10:15.540
from a small

01:10:15.540 --> 01:10:15.820
town

01:10:15.820 --> 01:10:16.300
had a southern

01:10:16.300 --> 01:10:16.820
accent

01:10:16.820 --> 01:10:18.520
shit like

01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:19.520
that

01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:21.400
he also said

01:10:21.400 --> 01:10:22.800
they had a lot

01:10:22.800 --> 01:10:23.400
of details about

01:10:23.400 --> 01:10:23.860
his favorite

01:10:23.860 --> 01:10:24.400
brand of

01:10:24.400 --> 01:10:24.840
cigarette

01:10:24.840 --> 01:10:26.500
etc etc

01:10:26.500 --> 01:10:28.640
what was his

01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:29.020
favorite brand

01:10:29.020 --> 01:10:29.420
of cigarette

01:10:29.420 --> 01:10:30.300
I think it was

01:10:30.300 --> 01:10:30.700
Marlboro

01:10:30.700 --> 01:10:31.860
yeah he was

01:10:31.860 --> 01:10:32.420
a Marlboro man

01:10:32.420 --> 01:10:33.300
was it

01:10:33.300 --> 01:10:34.300
I think if you

01:10:34.300 --> 01:10:34.840
live in a trailer

01:10:34.840 --> 01:10:35.380
across the street

01:10:35.380 --> 01:10:36.000
from a strip club

01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:36.600
you have to be

01:10:36.600 --> 01:10:37.240
a Marlboro man

01:10:37.240 --> 01:10:39.940
so what you

01:10:39.940 --> 01:10:40.400
need to do

01:10:40.400 --> 01:10:40.820
is you need

01:10:40.820 --> 01:10:41.420
to go to the

01:10:41.420 --> 01:10:42.200
convenience store

01:10:42.200 --> 01:10:43.940
next to the

01:10:43.940 --> 01:10:44.420
strip club

01:10:44.420 --> 01:10:45.880
and you need

01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:46.240
to watch

01:10:46.240 --> 01:10:46.740
this white

01:10:46.740 --> 01:10:47.400
pasty kid

01:10:47.400 --> 01:10:47.820
who doesn't

01:10:47.820 --> 01:10:48.160
get much

01:10:48.160 --> 01:10:48.500
fun

01:10:48.500 --> 01:10:48.980
ordering

01:10:48.980 --> 01:10:49.680
Marlboro's

01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:50.660
who lives

01:10:50.660 --> 01:10:51.100
in a trailer

01:10:51.100 --> 01:10:53.380
you go up

01:10:53.380 --> 01:10:53.600
to him

01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:53.940
and say

01:10:53.940 --> 01:10:57.020
oh

01:10:57.020 --> 01:10:57.660
bitch

01:10:57.660 --> 01:10:58.680
well see if you

01:10:58.680 --> 01:10:59.040
were smart

01:10:59.040 --> 01:10:59.480
you'd wait in

01:10:59.480 --> 01:11:00.020
the strip club

01:11:00.020 --> 01:11:00.580
because he's got

01:11:00.580 --> 01:11:01.180
all this available

01:11:01.180 --> 01:11:01.800
money from his

01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:02.240
botnet

01:11:02.240 --> 01:11:04.000
and then you're

01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:04.340
just waiting

01:11:04.340 --> 01:11:04.960
in the strip club

01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:06.440
how would you

01:11:06.440 --> 01:11:07.780
take his money

01:11:07.780 --> 01:11:08.300
advertising on

01:11:08.300 --> 01:11:09.000
people's computers

01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:10.740
oh that's dirty

01:11:10.740 --> 01:11:11.740
oh yeah

01:11:11.740 --> 01:11:14.560
oh man

01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:14.860
that's dirty

01:11:14.860 --> 01:11:15.380
oh he's a son

01:11:15.380 --> 01:11:15.720
of a bitch

01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:16.020
you can whoop

01:11:16.020 --> 01:11:16.460
his ass

01:11:16.460 --> 01:11:17.880
at least we

01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:18.100
know where

01:11:18.100 --> 01:11:18.540
he lives

01:11:18.540 --> 01:11:19.780
yeah we know

01:11:19.780 --> 01:11:20.300
exactly where

01:11:20.300 --> 01:11:20.640
he lives

01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:23.760
anyway that was

01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:24.600
a good interesting

01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:24.960
part of

01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:25.620
Stinky's talk

01:11:25.620 --> 01:11:27.560
alright were there

01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:28.200
any other fun

01:11:28.200 --> 01:11:28.900
talks that were

01:11:28.900 --> 01:11:29.480
there besides

01:11:29.480 --> 01:11:30.060
coding 101

01:11:30.060 --> 01:11:33.240
they had a lot

01:11:33.240 --> 01:11:34.040
of great talks

01:11:34.040 --> 01:11:34.840
personally I didn't

01:11:34.840 --> 01:11:35.420
get a chance to

01:11:35.420 --> 01:11:36.060
attend a lot of

01:11:36.060 --> 01:11:37.020
them because I

01:11:37.020 --> 01:11:38.840
was knee deep

01:11:38.840 --> 01:11:39.640
actually not even

01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:40.180
knee deep I was

01:11:40.180 --> 01:11:41.120
in way over my

01:11:41.120 --> 01:11:41.860
head in the

01:11:41.860 --> 01:11:42.680
coding contest

01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:43.960
their first annual

01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:45.700
programming contest

01:11:45.700 --> 01:11:46.320
of Interzone

01:11:46.320 --> 01:11:47.140
so I get there

01:11:47.140 --> 01:11:47.900
I'm all excited

01:11:47.900 --> 01:11:48.560
I'm like yeah

01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:48.940
I'm going to do

01:11:48.940 --> 01:11:49.700
some cool system

01:11:49.700 --> 01:11:50.280
programming

01:11:50.280 --> 01:11:51.240
probably some

01:11:51.240 --> 01:11:52.940
cool lead exploit

01:11:52.940 --> 01:11:53.840
or something cool

01:11:53.840 --> 01:11:54.700
and I get there

01:11:54.700 --> 01:11:55.520
and it's a side

01:11:55.520 --> 01:11:56.580
scrolling video game

01:11:56.580 --> 01:11:58.020
and I have never

01:11:58.020 --> 01:11:59.040
coded anything with

01:11:59.040 --> 01:11:59.960
games ever in

01:11:59.960 --> 01:12:00.900
my entire life

01:12:00.900 --> 01:12:02.040
the rule is

01:12:02.040 --> 01:12:02.500
you're not allowed

01:12:02.500 --> 01:12:03.360
to use any game

01:12:03.360 --> 01:12:04.260
engines or anything

01:12:04.260 --> 01:12:04.920
so I bust out

01:12:04.920 --> 01:12:05.720
with SDL

01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:07.020
for C

01:12:07.020 --> 01:12:08.160
which is the

01:12:08.160 --> 01:12:09.620
graphics and audio

01:12:09.620 --> 01:12:10.520
library so you

01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:11.260
can make game

01:12:11.260 --> 01:12:12.260
sprites and stuff

01:12:12.260 --> 01:12:12.740
like that

01:12:12.740 --> 01:12:13.580
so I had a

01:12:13.580 --> 01:12:14.540
firefighting game

01:12:14.540 --> 01:12:15.560
with perfect

01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:16.440
bitmaps

01:12:16.440 --> 01:12:17.260
it was very cool

01:12:17.260 --> 01:12:18.520
the guy walked

01:12:18.520 --> 01:12:19.280
around and he

01:12:19.280 --> 01:12:19.580
jumped

01:12:19.580 --> 01:12:20.140
I didn't have

01:12:20.140 --> 01:12:20.660
enough time to

01:12:20.660 --> 01:12:21.160
finish it with

01:12:21.160 --> 01:12:21.860
like fire and

01:12:21.860 --> 01:12:22.180
stuff

01:12:22.180 --> 01:12:22.780
it was like

01:12:22.780 --> 01:12:23.680
1500 lines of

01:12:23.680 --> 01:12:23.960
code

01:12:23.960 --> 01:12:24.760
spent the whole

01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:25.460
time working on

01:12:25.460 --> 01:12:26.020
it didn't finish

01:12:26.020 --> 01:12:26.560
it and some

01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:27.280
guy with 300

01:12:27.280 --> 01:12:28.160
lines wrote it

01:12:28.160 --> 01:12:29.900
in what was it

01:12:29.900 --> 01:12:30.940
I'm going to

01:12:30.940 --> 01:12:31.320
pronounce it

01:12:31.320 --> 01:12:31.480
wrong

01:12:31.480 --> 01:12:31.920
what is it

01:12:31.920 --> 01:12:32.780
TCL

01:12:32.780 --> 01:12:34.320
TK or something

01:12:34.320 --> 01:12:34.840
like that

01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:35.920
tickle

01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:36.780
yeah

01:12:36.780 --> 01:12:37.780
so that

01:12:37.780 --> 01:12:38.360
in that

01:12:38.360 --> 01:12:40.260
he did it

01:12:40.260 --> 01:12:40.620
in 300

01:12:40.620 --> 01:12:41.080
lines

01:12:41.080 --> 01:12:41.900
and I came

01:12:41.900 --> 01:12:42.300
in second

01:12:42.300 --> 01:12:43.340
so that was

01:12:43.340 --> 01:12:43.680
cool

01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:45.400
granted there

01:12:45.400 --> 01:12:45.780
were only two

01:12:45.780 --> 01:12:46.200
participants

01:12:46.200 --> 01:12:46.800
but that's not

01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:47.280
important

01:12:47.280 --> 01:12:50.300
no but they

01:12:50.300 --> 01:12:50.700
had a bunch

01:12:50.700 --> 01:12:51.180
of contests

01:12:51.180 --> 01:12:51.540
this year

01:12:51.540 --> 01:12:52.160
I think they

01:12:52.160 --> 01:12:52.800
had two

01:12:52.800 --> 01:12:53.780
capture the

01:12:53.780 --> 01:12:54.740
flag contests

01:12:54.740 --> 01:12:56.480
one was one

01:12:56.480 --> 01:12:57.160
that went on

01:12:57.160 --> 01:12:57.700
like for an

01:12:57.700 --> 01:12:58.200
extended period

01:12:58.200 --> 01:12:58.620
of time

01:12:58.620 --> 01:12:59.280
and the other

01:12:59.280 --> 01:12:59.740
one was

01:12:59.740 --> 01:13:00.640
I think it

01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:00.900
was a little

01:13:00.900 --> 01:13:01.180
bit more

01:13:01.180 --> 01:13:01.660
short term

01:13:01.660 --> 01:13:03.160
and they were

01:13:03.160 --> 01:13:03.480
going to have

01:13:03.480 --> 01:13:03.840
a drunken

01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:04.520
coding contest

01:13:04.520 --> 01:13:05.040
as well

01:13:05.040 --> 01:13:06.420
only that one

01:13:06.420 --> 01:13:07.080
I actually won

01:13:07.080 --> 01:13:09.120
I did win that

01:13:09.120 --> 01:13:09.620
one because I'm

01:13:09.620 --> 01:13:09.900
the only one

01:13:09.900 --> 01:13:10.240
who came

01:13:10.240 --> 01:13:12.520
you won by

01:13:12.520 --> 01:13:12.720
default

01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:13.680
oh that's so sad

01:13:13.680 --> 01:13:14.220
I would have

01:13:14.220 --> 01:13:15.120
totally gone

01:13:15.120 --> 01:13:15.460
with that

01:13:15.460 --> 01:13:16.080
I would have

01:13:16.080 --> 01:13:16.360
brought my

01:13:16.360 --> 01:13:17.160
bottle of tequila

01:13:17.160 --> 01:13:18.060
in my laptop

01:13:18.060 --> 01:13:18.580
and I would be

01:13:18.580 --> 01:13:18.800
happy

01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:19.100
yeah

01:13:19.100 --> 01:13:21.300
but yeah

01:13:21.300 --> 01:13:21.840
I guess everybody

01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:22.820
was doing their

01:13:22.820 --> 01:13:23.160
thing

01:13:23.160 --> 01:13:25.060
I would have

01:13:25.060 --> 01:13:25.780
violated my

01:13:25.780 --> 01:13:26.700
rule of never

01:13:26.700 --> 01:13:27.380
code drunk

01:13:27.380 --> 01:13:28.760
because I did

01:13:28.760 --> 01:13:29.460
code drunk

01:13:29.460 --> 01:13:30.240
once

01:13:30.240 --> 01:13:31.940
I was working

01:13:31.940 --> 01:13:32.500
on like a

01:13:32.500 --> 01:13:33.260
homework assignment

01:13:33.260 --> 01:13:33.720
and I was

01:13:33.720 --> 01:13:34.020
you know

01:13:34.020 --> 01:13:35.940
I wouldn't say

01:13:35.940 --> 01:13:36.560
I mean I was

01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:37.300
drunk but I

01:13:37.300 --> 01:13:37.820
wasn't like you

01:13:37.820 --> 01:13:39.020
know completely

01:13:39.020 --> 01:13:40.200
stumbling around

01:13:40.200 --> 01:13:42.440
drunk off my

01:13:42.440 --> 01:13:42.820
ass

01:13:42.820 --> 01:13:44.100
and you know

01:13:44.100 --> 01:13:44.700
I was coding

01:13:44.700 --> 01:13:45.180
it and I was

01:13:45.180 --> 01:13:45.960
doing oh yeah

01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:46.700
this makes sense

01:13:46.700 --> 01:13:47.280
makes sense

01:13:47.280 --> 01:13:48.660
and I went to

01:13:48.660 --> 01:13:49.300
bed that night

01:13:49.300 --> 01:13:49.860
and I woke up

01:13:49.860 --> 01:13:50.380
the next morning

01:13:50.380 --> 01:13:51.400
and I looked

01:13:51.400 --> 01:13:52.180
at all my code

01:13:52.180 --> 01:13:53.020
and I looked

01:13:53.020 --> 01:13:53.440
at it and said

01:13:53.440 --> 01:13:54.820
what the hell

01:13:54.820 --> 01:13:55.640
was I doing

01:13:55.640 --> 01:13:56.480
and I kept

01:13:56.480 --> 01:13:57.420
nothing from that

01:13:57.420 --> 01:13:57.720
night

01:13:57.720 --> 01:13:58.720
because it was

01:13:58.720 --> 01:13:59.140
just it made

01:13:59.140 --> 01:13:59.820
no sense

01:13:59.820 --> 01:14:01.780
did it compile

01:14:01.780 --> 01:14:02.640
yeah

01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:03.900
it was compiled

01:14:03.900 --> 01:14:04.780
but it just

01:14:04.780 --> 01:14:05.900
didn't do anything

01:14:05.900 --> 01:14:06.660
I didn't know

01:14:06.660 --> 01:14:07.100
what the hell

01:14:07.100 --> 01:14:08.100
some of it did

01:14:08.100 --> 01:14:10.600
oh the voodoo

01:14:10.600 --> 01:14:11.160
programming

01:14:11.160 --> 01:14:12.020
it's always fun

01:14:12.020 --> 01:14:13.240
oh yeah

01:14:13.240 --> 01:14:14.060
it's like man

01:14:14.060 --> 01:14:14.660
just I mean

01:14:14.660 --> 01:14:15.700
it didn't

01:14:15.700 --> 01:14:16.220
it didn't do

01:14:16.220 --> 01:14:17.040
anything related

01:14:17.040 --> 01:14:17.480
to what I

01:14:17.480 --> 01:14:17.960
actually wanted

01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:18.960
to do

01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:21.340
you know what's

01:14:21.340 --> 01:14:21.820
nice about

01:14:21.820 --> 01:14:22.500
a contest

01:14:22.500 --> 01:14:23.220
like that

01:14:23.220 --> 01:14:23.880
is that you

01:14:23.880 --> 01:14:24.420
actually get

01:14:24.420 --> 01:14:24.740
to

01:14:24.740 --> 01:14:25.440
like I

01:14:25.440 --> 01:14:26.220
I'd never

01:14:26.220 --> 01:14:26.760
done graphics

01:14:26.760 --> 01:14:27.100
before

01:14:27.100 --> 01:14:27.700
and I don't

01:14:27.700 --> 01:14:28.180
think I ever

01:14:28.180 --> 01:14:29.140
would have

01:14:29.140 --> 01:14:29.900
naturally gone

01:14:29.900 --> 01:14:30.440
over and done

01:14:30.440 --> 01:14:30.620
it

01:14:30.620 --> 01:14:31.060
but when

01:14:31.060 --> 01:14:31.680
somebody presents

01:14:31.680 --> 01:14:32.240
you like at

01:14:32.240 --> 01:14:32.720
a conference

01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:33.140
where somebody

01:14:33.140 --> 01:14:33.580
presents you

01:14:33.580 --> 01:14:33.860
with like

01:14:33.860 --> 01:14:34.320
here's the

01:14:34.320 --> 01:14:34.820
contest

01:14:34.820 --> 01:14:35.560
give it a

01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:35.920
shot

01:14:35.920 --> 01:14:36.540
no it was

01:14:36.540 --> 01:14:36.940
interesting

01:14:36.940 --> 01:14:37.400
to take a

01:14:37.400 --> 01:14:37.620
look at

01:14:37.620 --> 01:14:38.040
graphics

01:14:38.040 --> 01:14:38.460
you know

01:14:38.460 --> 01:14:39.160
it kind

01:14:39.160 --> 01:14:39.440
of makes

01:14:39.440 --> 01:14:39.820
me miss

01:14:39.820 --> 01:14:40.880
my command

01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:41.220
line

01:14:41.220 --> 01:14:41.620
interface

01:14:41.620 --> 01:14:42.760
but

01:14:42.760 --> 01:14:44.220
it's always

01:14:44.220 --> 01:14:44.820
nice to

01:14:44.820 --> 01:14:45.540
try something

01:14:45.540 --> 01:14:45.840
new

01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:46.780
and I think

01:14:46.780 --> 01:14:47.480
that's the

01:14:47.480 --> 01:14:48.100
real point

01:14:48.100 --> 01:14:48.480
behind a

01:14:48.480 --> 01:14:48.800
conference

01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:49.240
is to be

01:14:49.240 --> 01:14:49.840
exposed to

01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:50.320
things that

01:14:50.320 --> 01:14:50.780
you aren't

01:14:50.780 --> 01:14:51.340
ordinarily

01:14:51.340 --> 01:14:52.220
exposed to

01:14:52.220 --> 01:14:53.240
and give

01:14:53.240 --> 01:14:53.800
it a try

01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:55.920
100%

01:14:55.920 --> 01:14:56.620
so where

01:14:56.620 --> 01:14:57.220
did you put

01:14:57.220 --> 01:14:57.720
your fireman

01:14:57.720 --> 01:14:58.040
game

01:14:58.040 --> 01:15:00.460
I'm sorry

01:15:00.460 --> 01:15:01.240
where did you

01:15:01.240 --> 01:15:01.460
put your

01:15:01.460 --> 01:15:01.720
game

01:15:01.720 --> 01:15:02.100
is it up

01:15:02.100 --> 01:15:02.540
for download

01:15:02.540 --> 01:15:03.740
oh my

01:15:03.740 --> 01:15:03.880
game

01:15:03.880 --> 01:15:04.140
my game

01:15:04.140 --> 01:15:04.320
is not

01:15:04.320 --> 01:15:04.580
anywhere

01:15:04.580 --> 01:15:05.520
close to

01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:05.800
done

01:15:05.800 --> 01:15:06.360
but I

01:15:06.360 --> 01:15:06.980
did exchange

01:15:06.980 --> 01:15:07.400
the source

01:15:07.400 --> 01:15:07.580
code

01:15:07.580 --> 01:15:07.800
I do

01:15:07.800 --> 01:15:08.000
have a

01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:08.400
tarball

01:15:08.400 --> 01:15:08.820
the source

01:15:08.820 --> 01:15:09.060
code

01:15:09.060 --> 01:15:09.440
I guess

01:15:09.440 --> 01:15:09.740
if somebody

01:15:09.740 --> 01:15:10.560
really wants

01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:10.780
it

01:15:10.780 --> 01:15:11.680
they can

01:15:11.680 --> 01:15:13.120
if that's

01:15:13.120 --> 01:15:13.500
the consensus

01:15:13.500 --> 01:15:13.880
I'll put it

01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:14.360
on the forums

01:15:14.360 --> 01:15:15.100
it's not that

01:15:15.100 --> 01:15:15.600
big a tarball

01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:17.100
I really think

01:15:17.100 --> 01:15:17.360
you should

01:15:17.360 --> 01:15:17.680
I think you

01:15:17.680 --> 01:15:18.040
should release

01:15:18.040 --> 01:15:18.780
it

01:15:18.780 --> 01:15:19.200
hell yeah

01:15:19.200 --> 01:15:19.560
if nothing

01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:19.820
else

01:15:19.820 --> 01:15:20.040
you know

01:15:20.040 --> 01:15:20.200
just

01:15:20.200 --> 01:15:21.060
hell yeah

01:15:21.060 --> 01:15:22.120
you invest

01:15:22.120 --> 01:15:22.540
in a weekend

01:15:22.540 --> 01:15:22.980
to do it

01:15:22.980 --> 01:15:23.360
do it

01:15:23.360 --> 01:15:24.240
well you never

01:15:24.240 --> 01:15:24.440
know

01:15:24.440 --> 01:15:25.020
I might finish

01:15:25.020 --> 01:15:25.580
it one day

01:15:25.580 --> 01:15:27.320
and make a

01:15:27.320 --> 01:15:27.880
million dollars

01:15:27.880 --> 01:15:28.720
still open

01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:29.040
source

01:15:29.040 --> 01:15:29.460
just

01:15:29.460 --> 01:15:32.620
slap the term

01:15:32.620 --> 01:15:33.300
beta onto

01:15:33.300 --> 01:15:33.600
it and

01:15:33.600 --> 01:15:33.920
everyone will

01:15:33.920 --> 01:15:34.240
be like

01:15:34.240 --> 01:15:34.820
oh no

01:15:34.820 --> 01:15:35.220
it doesn't

01:15:35.220 --> 01:15:36.680
no one will

01:15:36.680 --> 01:15:37.200
expect it to

01:15:37.200 --> 01:15:37.680
work at all

01:15:37.680 --> 01:15:38.000
and if it

01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:38.460
compiles

01:15:38.460 --> 01:15:38.700
you'll be

01:15:38.700 --> 01:15:39.080
like oh

01:15:39.080 --> 01:15:39.480
wow

01:15:39.480 --> 01:15:41.040
it totally

01:15:41.040 --> 01:15:41.540
compiles

01:15:41.540 --> 01:15:41.860
the guy

01:15:41.860 --> 01:15:42.520
walks around

01:15:42.520 --> 01:15:43.100
and jumps

01:15:43.100 --> 01:15:43.760
that's it

01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:44.100
though

01:15:44.100 --> 01:15:48.160
and there's

01:15:48.160 --> 01:15:48.820
anything too

01:15:48.820 --> 01:15:49.240
but I don't

01:15:49.240 --> 01:15:49.640
have sound

01:15:49.640 --> 01:15:50.380
on my laptop

01:15:50.380 --> 01:15:52.680
what kind

01:15:52.680 --> 01:15:53.140
of laptop

01:15:53.140 --> 01:15:53.720
do you have

01:15:53.720 --> 01:15:54.040
man

01:15:54.040 --> 01:15:54.980
well no

01:15:54.980 --> 01:15:55.660
it's actually

01:15:55.660 --> 01:15:56.200
it's a newer

01:15:56.200 --> 01:15:56.580
laptop

01:15:56.580 --> 01:15:57.060
so the

01:15:57.060 --> 01:15:57.680
Linux sound

01:15:57.680 --> 01:15:58.220
this is a

01:15:58.220 --> 01:15:58.840
long story

01:15:58.840 --> 01:15:59.380
that for

01:15:59.380 --> 01:16:00.140
the past

01:16:00.140 --> 01:16:00.640
like nine

01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:00.920
months

01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:01.200
we've been

01:16:01.200 --> 01:16:01.480
trying to

01:16:01.480 --> 01:16:02.360
get sound

01:16:02.360 --> 01:16:02.840
in Linux

01:16:02.840 --> 01:16:03.220
on my

01:16:03.220 --> 01:16:03.720
laptop

01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:04.440
blah blah

01:16:04.440 --> 01:16:04.760
blah

01:16:04.760 --> 01:16:06.020
ancient compact

01:16:06.020 --> 01:16:07.320
386 thing

01:16:07.320 --> 01:16:07.840
that has no

01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:08.680
sound card

01:16:08.680 --> 01:16:10.280
no mouse

01:16:10.280 --> 01:16:11.260
monochrome

01:16:11.260 --> 01:16:11.900
display

01:16:11.900 --> 01:16:12.860
8 megs of

01:16:12.860 --> 01:16:13.100
ram

01:16:13.100 --> 01:16:14.280
trackball

01:16:14.280 --> 01:16:15.920
trackball

01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:16.160
on a

01:16:16.160 --> 01:16:16.600
laptop

01:16:16.600 --> 01:16:18.080
yeah

01:16:18.080 --> 01:16:20.320
all the

01:16:20.320 --> 01:16:22.100
early laptops

01:16:22.100 --> 01:16:22.540
used to have

01:16:22.540 --> 01:16:23.000
trackballs

01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:23.380
before they

01:16:23.380 --> 01:16:24.000
had touchpads

01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:25.040
oh yeah

01:16:25.040 --> 01:16:26.800
god

01:16:26.800 --> 01:16:27.920
I feel old

01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:28.340
oh yeah

01:16:28.340 --> 01:16:28.700
no no

01:16:28.700 --> 01:16:29.380
like the

01:16:29.380 --> 01:16:29.960
compacts

01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:30.160
I remember

01:16:30.160 --> 01:16:30.520
this one

01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:30.760
there was

01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:31.000
the one

01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:31.800
that actually

01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:32.340
clipped onto

01:16:32.340 --> 01:16:32.780
the side

01:16:32.780 --> 01:16:33.240
of the laptop

01:16:33.240 --> 01:16:33.580
there was

01:16:33.580 --> 01:16:33.920
a fancy

01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:34.360
trackball

01:16:34.360 --> 01:16:34.660
that flipped

01:16:34.660 --> 01:16:35.240
on the side

01:16:35.240 --> 01:16:35.880
and it was

01:16:35.880 --> 01:16:36.800
like a semicircle

01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:38.320
and it was

01:16:38.320 --> 01:16:39.240
kind of ergonomic

01:16:39.240 --> 01:16:40.260
you had the

01:16:40.260 --> 01:16:40.700
button and

01:16:40.700 --> 01:16:40.920
then there

01:16:40.920 --> 01:16:41.300
was some

01:16:41.300 --> 01:16:41.840
other button

01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:42.100
and you

01:16:42.100 --> 01:16:43.060
operate the

01:16:43.060 --> 01:16:43.320
ball with

01:16:43.320 --> 01:16:43.700
your thumb

01:16:43.700 --> 01:16:44.280
those were

01:16:44.280 --> 01:16:44.780
the shit

01:16:44.780 --> 01:16:45.160
man

01:16:45.160 --> 01:16:45.580
so you

01:16:45.580 --> 01:16:45.920
were used

01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:46.040
to

01:16:46.040 --> 01:16:46.300
you were

01:16:46.300 --> 01:16:46.740
good at

01:16:46.740 --> 01:16:46.940
that

01:16:46.940 --> 01:16:47.400
yeah

01:16:47.400 --> 01:16:50.700
yeah

01:16:50.700 --> 01:16:51.700
yeah

01:16:51.700 --> 01:16:53.880
we also

01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:54.400
went to a

01:16:54.400 --> 01:16:54.620
talk

01:16:54.620 --> 01:16:56.500
go ahead

01:16:56.500 --> 01:16:56.780
go ahead

01:16:56.780 --> 01:16:57.400
we only have

01:16:57.400 --> 01:16:58.020
like seven

01:16:58.020 --> 01:16:58.660
minutes left

01:16:58.660 --> 01:16:59.100
so let's

01:16:59.100 --> 01:17:00.340
let's wrap

01:17:00.340 --> 01:17:00.760
it up

01:17:00.760 --> 01:17:02.240
oh one

01:17:02.240 --> 01:17:02.440
more

01:17:02.440 --> 01:17:03.040
we went to

01:17:03.040 --> 01:17:03.440
a talk

01:17:03.440 --> 01:17:04.100
that was

01:17:04.100 --> 01:17:06.520
this older

01:17:06.520 --> 01:17:06.820
fella

01:17:06.820 --> 01:17:07.700
had a beard

01:17:07.700 --> 01:17:08.220
bald head

01:17:08.220 --> 01:17:08.500
I can't

01:17:08.500 --> 01:17:08.800
remember what

01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:09.140
his name

01:17:09.140 --> 01:17:09.440
was

01:17:09.440 --> 01:17:10.000
I was

01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:10.260
looking on

01:17:10.260 --> 01:17:10.520
the site

01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:10.720
couldn't

01:17:10.720 --> 01:17:11.080
see it

01:17:11.080 --> 01:17:11.980
but he

01:17:11.980 --> 01:17:12.720
had a

01:17:12.720 --> 01:17:13.020
tool

01:17:13.020 --> 01:17:13.220
that

01:17:13.220 --> 01:17:14.240
he added

01:17:14.240 --> 01:17:14.700
to a

01:17:14.700 --> 01:17:15.100
like a

01:17:15.100 --> 01:17:15.280
BART

01:17:15.280 --> 01:17:15.580
speed

01:17:15.580 --> 01:17:16.000
disk

01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:17.000
and you

01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:17.280
put it

01:17:17.280 --> 01:17:17.480
in

01:17:17.480 --> 01:17:17.740
and you

01:17:17.740 --> 01:17:18.020
reboot

01:17:18.020 --> 01:17:18.200
the

01:17:18.200 --> 01:17:18.540
computer

01:17:18.540 --> 01:17:19.480
and

01:17:19.480 --> 01:17:20.420
two or three

01:17:20.420 --> 01:17:20.920
minutes later

01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:21.320
it would say

01:17:21.320 --> 01:17:22.180
boom or bam

01:17:22.180 --> 01:17:22.660
or something

01:17:22.660 --> 01:17:24.380
and then you

01:17:24.380 --> 01:17:24.780
restart the

01:17:24.780 --> 01:17:25.260
computer and you

01:17:25.260 --> 01:17:25.720
go away

01:17:25.720 --> 01:17:27.080
and what that

01:17:27.080 --> 01:17:27.500
does

01:17:27.500 --> 01:17:28.720
is that

01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:29.680
do you remember

01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:29.980
what I'm talking

01:17:29.980 --> 01:17:30.380
about Ziggy

01:17:30.380 --> 01:17:31.660
are you talking

01:17:31.660 --> 01:17:32.060
about the one

01:17:32.060 --> 01:17:32.900
who's replaced

01:17:32.900 --> 01:17:33.780
the onboard

01:17:33.780 --> 01:17:34.360
keyboard

01:17:34.360 --> 01:17:34.860
yeah

01:17:34.860 --> 01:17:35.740
with a command

01:17:35.740 --> 01:17:36.000
shell

01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:36.280
yeah

01:17:36.280 --> 01:17:36.720
that actually

01:17:36.720 --> 01:17:37.060
presentation

01:17:37.060 --> 01:17:37.620
was originally

01:17:37.620 --> 01:17:38.000
given at

01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:38.480
defcon

01:17:38.480 --> 01:17:39.200
and he

01:17:39.200 --> 01:17:40.280
also made

01:17:40.280 --> 01:17:40.500
a tool

01:17:40.500 --> 01:17:41.080
the long

01:17:41.080 --> 01:17:41.660
story short

01:17:41.660 --> 01:17:42.540
is he

01:17:42.540 --> 01:17:43.180
reboots

01:17:43.180 --> 01:17:44.080
replaces the

01:17:44.080 --> 01:17:44.440
on-screen

01:17:44.440 --> 01:17:44.800
keyboard

01:17:44.800 --> 01:17:45.180
which you

01:17:45.180 --> 01:17:45.580
can always

01:17:45.580 --> 01:17:45.900
open

01:17:45.900 --> 01:17:46.600
regardless of

01:17:46.600 --> 01:17:46.980
whether you

01:17:46.980 --> 01:17:47.560
are actually

01:17:47.560 --> 01:17:48.180
logged in

01:17:48.180 --> 01:17:49.060
with the

01:17:49.060 --> 01:17:49.380
shell

01:17:49.380 --> 01:17:50.040
and the

01:17:50.040 --> 01:17:50.460
shell would

01:17:50.460 --> 01:17:51.100
execute with

01:17:51.100 --> 01:17:51.440
system

01:17:51.440 --> 01:17:51.860
privileges

01:17:51.860 --> 01:17:53.420
meaning that

01:17:53.420 --> 01:17:53.920
you basically

01:17:53.920 --> 01:17:55.060
are the

01:17:55.060 --> 01:17:55.720
total owner

01:17:55.720 --> 01:17:56.980
and he also

01:17:56.980 --> 01:17:57.720
released the

01:17:57.720 --> 01:17:57.880
tool

01:17:57.880 --> 01:17:58.280
he didn't

01:17:58.280 --> 01:17:59.500
give out the

01:17:59.500 --> 01:17:59.960
tool last

01:17:59.960 --> 01:18:00.480
time but the

01:18:00.480 --> 01:18:01.460
tool allows you

01:18:01.460 --> 01:18:02.580
to usurp

01:18:02.580 --> 01:18:03.280
any other

01:18:03.280 --> 01:18:03.560
user

01:18:03.560 --> 01:18:03.820
was this

01:18:03.820 --> 01:18:04.180
the bald

01:18:04.180 --> 01:18:04.440
guy

01:18:04.440 --> 01:18:04.680
the guy

01:18:04.680 --> 01:18:04.920
with the

01:18:04.920 --> 01:18:05.300
sunglasses

01:18:05.300 --> 01:18:06.580
yeah

01:18:06.580 --> 01:18:07.060
yeah

01:18:07.060 --> 01:18:07.500
the insecure

01:18:07.500 --> 01:18:08.100
workstation

01:18:08.100 --> 01:18:08.540
too

01:18:08.540 --> 01:18:08.880
yeah

01:18:08.880 --> 01:18:09.160
that's

01:18:09.160 --> 01:18:09.480
that one

01:18:09.480 --> 01:18:11.120
yeah

01:18:11.120 --> 01:18:11.500
that guy

01:18:11.500 --> 01:18:12.380
knows his

01:18:12.380 --> 01:18:12.540
shit

01:18:12.540 --> 01:18:12.940
yeah

01:18:12.940 --> 01:18:13.620
definitely

01:18:13.620 --> 01:18:15.460
he's a cool

01:18:15.460 --> 01:18:15.780
guy

01:18:15.780 --> 01:18:16.460
and I always

01:18:16.460 --> 01:18:16.740
look forward

01:18:16.740 --> 01:18:17.300
he always is

01:18:17.300 --> 01:18:17.800
very funny

01:18:17.800 --> 01:18:18.440
he's an excellent

01:18:18.440 --> 01:18:19.180
presenter as

01:18:19.180 --> 01:18:19.440
well

01:18:19.440 --> 01:18:22.520
oh you know

01:18:22.520 --> 01:18:23.000
we have to

01:18:23.000 --> 01:18:23.360
mention

01:18:23.360 --> 01:18:25.460
how great

01:18:25.460 --> 01:18:26.220
Stank was

01:18:26.220 --> 01:18:26.760
in his

01:18:26.760 --> 01:18:27.120
walking

01:18:27.120 --> 01:18:27.740
abilities

01:18:27.740 --> 01:18:29.200
yeah

01:18:29.200 --> 01:18:30.040
you cut

01:18:30.040 --> 01:18:30.540
the notes

01:18:30.540 --> 01:18:31.120
Stank

01:18:31.120 --> 01:18:31.760
fell and

01:18:31.760 --> 01:18:32.740
nearly died

01:18:32.740 --> 01:18:33.220
in all

01:18:33.220 --> 01:18:33.540
cap

01:18:33.540 --> 01:18:36.380
that's

01:18:36.380 --> 01:18:36.680
totally

01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:36.840
why

01:18:36.840 --> 01:18:37.120
he was

01:18:37.120 --> 01:18:37.420
walking

01:18:37.420 --> 01:18:37.640
down

01:18:37.640 --> 01:18:37.880
the street

01:18:37.880 --> 01:18:38.100
okay

01:18:38.100 --> 01:18:38.460
because you

01:18:38.460 --> 01:18:38.700
know

01:18:38.700 --> 01:18:39.380
Stank has

01:18:39.380 --> 01:18:39.740
a saying

01:18:39.740 --> 01:18:40.180
you can never

01:18:40.180 --> 01:18:40.580
get between

01:18:40.580 --> 01:18:41.080
a dog and

01:18:41.080 --> 01:18:41.500
his bone

01:18:41.500 --> 01:18:42.520
so when

01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:43.140
Stank's hungry

01:18:43.140 --> 01:18:43.440
you know

01:18:43.440 --> 01:18:43.700
there's no

01:18:43.700 --> 01:18:44.200
stopping him

01:18:44.200 --> 01:18:44.480
and he

01:18:44.480 --> 01:18:45.240
could clearly

01:18:45.240 --> 01:18:46.360
see Piccadilly's

01:18:46.360 --> 01:18:47.380
Piccadilly

01:18:47.380 --> 01:18:47.860
cafeteria

01:18:47.860 --> 01:18:50.020
so here he is

01:18:50.020 --> 01:18:50.460
standing in the

01:18:50.460 --> 01:18:50.720
middle of the

01:18:50.720 --> 01:18:50.820
street

01:18:50.820 --> 01:18:51.140
the lights

01:18:51.140 --> 01:18:51.460
about to

01:18:51.460 --> 01:18:51.660
change

01:18:51.660 --> 01:18:51.960
he says

01:18:51.960 --> 01:18:52.460
just run

01:18:52.460 --> 01:18:52.940
for it

01:18:52.940 --> 01:18:53.300
so he

01:18:53.300 --> 01:18:53.940
starts running

01:18:53.940 --> 01:18:54.520
across the

01:18:54.520 --> 01:18:54.760
street

01:18:54.760 --> 01:18:55.260
and right

01:18:55.260 --> 01:18:55.600
when he

01:18:55.600 --> 01:18:56.060
gets to the

01:18:56.060 --> 01:18:56.300
edge

01:18:56.300 --> 01:18:57.100
he looks

01:18:57.100 --> 01:18:57.440
up at the

01:18:57.440 --> 01:18:57.640
light

01:18:57.640 --> 01:18:58.060
sees that

01:18:58.060 --> 01:18:58.400
it's red

01:18:58.400 --> 01:18:59.020
starts tripping

01:18:59.020 --> 01:18:59.640
up and does

01:18:59.640 --> 01:19:00.520
a total face

01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:00.900
plant

01:19:00.900 --> 01:19:01.520
and flies

01:19:01.520 --> 01:19:02.060
for like

01:19:02.060 --> 01:19:02.300
I don't

01:19:02.300 --> 01:19:02.540
know

01:19:02.540 --> 01:19:03.240
a foot

01:19:03.240 --> 01:19:03.680
or two

01:19:03.680 --> 01:19:04.680
kind of

01:19:04.680 --> 01:19:05.480
stumbles

01:19:05.480 --> 01:19:06.100
back to his

01:19:06.100 --> 01:19:06.360
feet

01:19:06.360 --> 01:19:06.780
like all

01:19:06.780 --> 01:19:07.200
stunned

01:19:07.200 --> 01:19:07.780
he's all

01:19:07.780 --> 01:19:08.120
cut up

01:19:08.120 --> 01:19:08.620
and bruised

01:19:08.620 --> 01:19:09.060
so he's

01:19:09.060 --> 01:19:09.660
okay now

01:19:09.660 --> 01:19:11.320
but it's

01:19:11.320 --> 01:19:11.740
funny in

01:19:11.740 --> 01:19:12.160
retrospect

01:19:12.160 --> 01:19:12.700
you had to

01:19:12.700 --> 01:19:13.260
see it

01:19:13.260 --> 01:19:14.600
it was very

01:19:14.600 --> 01:19:14.960
classic

01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:15.960
me and

01:19:15.960 --> 01:19:16.360
Ponyboy

01:19:16.360 --> 01:19:16.700
got to

01:19:16.700 --> 01:19:17.160
witness it

01:19:17.160 --> 01:19:17.400
it was

01:19:17.400 --> 01:19:17.680
great

01:19:17.680 --> 01:19:19.340
and as soon

01:19:19.340 --> 01:19:19.660
as I put

01:19:19.660 --> 01:19:20.060
my pictures

01:19:20.060 --> 01:19:20.320
up

01:19:20.320 --> 01:19:21.280
you'll be

01:19:21.280 --> 01:19:21.480
able to

01:19:21.480 --> 01:19:21.780
see all

01:19:21.780 --> 01:19:22.200
the rashes

01:19:22.200 --> 01:19:22.500
and

01:19:22.500 --> 01:19:23.420
strawberries

01:19:23.420 --> 01:19:23.760
or whatever

01:19:23.760 --> 01:19:23.940
they're

01:19:23.940 --> 01:19:24.120
called

01:19:24.120 --> 01:19:24.460
all over

01:19:24.460 --> 01:19:25.100
him

01:19:25.100 --> 01:19:27.540
but a

01:19:27.540 --> 01:19:27.980
speedy

01:19:27.980 --> 01:19:28.360
recovery

01:19:28.360 --> 01:19:28.760
we all

01:19:28.760 --> 01:19:29.020
wish

01:19:29.020 --> 01:19:29.540
to Stank

01:19:29.540 --> 01:19:31.280
because I'm

01:19:31.280 --> 01:19:31.620
sure he's

01:19:31.620 --> 01:19:32.140
very lonely

01:19:32.140 --> 01:19:32.620
without being

01:19:32.620 --> 01:19:32.880
able to

01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:33.200
use his

01:19:33.200 --> 01:19:33.560
hands

01:19:33.560 --> 01:19:35.500
so okay

01:19:35.500 --> 01:19:36.080
so just

01:19:36.080 --> 01:19:37.660
you Logosex

01:19:37.660 --> 01:19:38.060
I mean

01:19:38.060 --> 01:19:38.980
you Logosex

01:19:38.980 --> 01:19:39.500
Super Katie

01:19:39.500 --> 01:19:39.920
Droops

01:19:39.920 --> 01:19:40.560
Mrs. Droops

01:19:40.560 --> 01:19:41.060
Stank

01:19:41.060 --> 01:19:42.160
what else was

01:19:42.160 --> 01:19:42.380
there

01:19:42.380 --> 01:19:43.860
Ponyboy

01:19:43.860 --> 01:19:45.240
anybody else

01:19:45.240 --> 01:19:45.580
that we know

01:19:45.580 --> 01:19:48.100
wow

01:19:48.100 --> 01:19:48.640
I mean there

01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:49.240
were a lot

01:19:49.240 --> 01:19:49.520
of people

01:19:49.520 --> 01:19:49.840
Rocket

01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:50.340
of course

01:19:50.340 --> 01:19:50.540
he

01:19:50.540 --> 01:19:51.200
actually

01:19:51.200 --> 01:19:51.640
you know

01:19:51.640 --> 01:19:51.820
what

01:19:51.820 --> 01:19:52.260
let's just

01:19:52.260 --> 01:19:52.560
say that

01:19:52.560 --> 01:19:53.100
a big

01:19:53.100 --> 01:19:53.420
thank you

01:19:53.420 --> 01:19:53.860
to Rocket

01:19:53.860 --> 01:19:54.680
who puts

01:19:54.680 --> 01:19:55.120
on the

01:19:55.120 --> 01:19:55.520
event

01:19:55.520 --> 01:19:56.580
every year

01:19:56.580 --> 01:19:57.500
despite

01:19:57.500 --> 01:19:58.140
you know

01:19:58.140 --> 01:19:58.460
some

01:19:58.460 --> 01:19:59.180
pressures

01:19:59.180 --> 01:19:59.860
he does

01:19:59.860 --> 01:20:00.140
an excellent

01:20:00.140 --> 01:20:00.440
and the

01:20:00.440 --> 01:20:00.780
entire

01:20:00.780 --> 01:20:01.220
inner zone

01:20:01.220 --> 01:20:01.800
staff

01:20:01.800 --> 01:20:02.320
where they

01:20:02.320 --> 01:20:02.700
were all

01:20:02.700 --> 01:20:03.100
absolutely

01:20:03.100 --> 01:20:03.480
excellent

01:20:03.480 --> 01:20:03.880
and you know

01:20:03.880 --> 01:20:04.400
I wish we had

01:20:04.400 --> 01:20:04.940
time to say

01:20:04.940 --> 01:20:05.520
something about

01:20:05.520 --> 01:20:05.860
everybody

01:20:05.860 --> 01:20:06.340
but they were

01:20:06.340 --> 01:20:07.240
definitely a

01:20:07.240 --> 01:20:08.180
great staff

01:20:08.180 --> 01:20:08.620
and it's an

01:20:08.620 --> 01:20:09.300
excellent conference

01:20:09.300 --> 01:20:09.900
that is definitely

01:20:09.900 --> 01:20:10.880
worth checking out

01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:12.620
yeah I gotta say

01:20:12.620 --> 01:20:13.360
Rocket is a cool

01:20:13.360 --> 01:20:13.600
guy

01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:15.000
Stank introduced

01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:15.900
me to him

01:20:15.900 --> 01:20:17.720
at DEFCON

01:20:17.720 --> 01:20:18.600
and he was

01:20:18.600 --> 01:20:19.180
really friendly

01:20:19.180 --> 01:20:19.480
you know

01:20:19.480 --> 01:20:19.980
came right up

01:20:19.980 --> 01:20:20.440
shook my hand

01:20:20.440 --> 01:20:20.880
talked to me

01:20:20.880 --> 01:20:21.720
and we chatted

01:20:21.720 --> 01:20:22.200
for about

01:20:22.200 --> 01:20:23.300
a good 15

01:20:23.300 --> 01:20:24.080
minutes of just

01:20:24.080 --> 01:20:25.180
how you know

01:20:25.180 --> 01:20:26.000
not that he was

01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:26.320
a noob

01:20:26.320 --> 01:20:26.880
and it was pretty

01:20:26.880 --> 01:20:27.100
cool

01:20:27.100 --> 01:20:30.600
not there

01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:30.900
or was it

01:20:30.900 --> 01:20:31.300
someone else

01:20:31.300 --> 01:20:31.540
I think it

01:20:31.540 --> 01:20:32.020
was not there

01:20:32.020 --> 01:20:32.880
but yeah

01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:34.120
Rock is definitely

01:20:34.120 --> 01:20:34.680
a cool guy

01:20:34.680 --> 01:20:38.780
so yeah

01:20:38.780 --> 01:20:41.480
we met a guy

01:20:41.480 --> 01:20:42.620
named Rick

01:20:42.620 --> 01:20:43.960
D-A-K-A-N

01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:45.020
Rick Dacken

01:20:45.020 --> 01:20:46.060
I want to say

01:20:46.060 --> 01:20:47.020
and he wrote a

01:20:47.020 --> 01:20:47.420
book called

01:20:47.420 --> 01:20:48.240
Geek Mafia

01:20:48.240 --> 01:20:48.720
which is for

01:20:48.720 --> 01:20:49.340
free at his

01:20:49.340 --> 01:20:49.680
website

01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:50.200
you can download

01:20:50.200 --> 01:20:51.360
the PDF

01:20:51.360 --> 01:20:52.860
which is

01:20:52.860 --> 01:20:54.100
rickdacken.com

01:20:54.100 --> 01:20:56.260
and I just

01:20:56.260 --> 01:20:56.680
read the book

01:20:56.680 --> 01:20:57.080
r-i-c-k

01:20:57.080 --> 01:20:59.920
r-i-c-k

01:20:59.920 --> 01:21:01.520
d-a-k-a-n

01:21:01.520 --> 01:21:04.140
d-a-k-a-n

01:21:04.140 --> 01:21:04.840
dot com

01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:05.280
okay

01:21:05.280 --> 01:21:06.220
yeah

01:21:06.220 --> 01:21:06.760
off the

01:21:06.760 --> 01:21:07.260
go give him

01:21:07.260 --> 01:21:07.600
a plug

01:21:07.600 --> 01:21:08.080
it was a good

01:21:08.080 --> 01:21:08.320
book

01:21:08.320 --> 01:21:09.100
yeah

01:21:09.100 --> 01:21:10.140
it's more

01:21:10.140 --> 01:21:10.380
about

01:21:10.380 --> 01:21:11.180
it's about

01:21:11.180 --> 01:21:11.740
it's called

01:21:11.740 --> 01:21:12.540
Geek Mafia

01:21:12.540 --> 01:21:13.160
but it's more

01:21:13.160 --> 01:21:13.580
about like

01:21:13.580 --> 01:21:14.320
con men

01:21:14.320 --> 01:21:15.020
kind of thing

01:21:15.020 --> 01:21:18.480
it's set

01:21:18.480 --> 01:21:19.020
in present

01:21:19.020 --> 01:21:19.400
times

01:21:19.400 --> 01:21:20.940
it kind of

01:21:20.940 --> 01:21:21.820
resembles truth

01:21:21.820 --> 01:21:22.140
it's pretty

01:21:22.140 --> 01:21:22.400
good

01:21:22.400 --> 01:21:23.000
sweet

01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:24.140
alright

01:21:24.140 --> 01:21:25.640
it looks like

01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:26.240
we are pretty

01:21:26.240 --> 01:21:26.680
much out of

01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:26.960
time

01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:27.380
so

01:21:27.380 --> 01:21:28.380
announcements

01:21:28.380 --> 01:21:28.740
anyone

01:21:28.740 --> 01:21:31.020
oh we have

01:21:31.020 --> 01:21:31.580
unveiled

01:21:31.580 --> 01:21:32.240
Hack TV

01:21:32.240 --> 01:21:32.640
Underground

01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:33.240
it's the

01:21:33.240 --> 01:21:33.720
brand new

01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:34.020
show

01:21:34.020 --> 01:21:34.520
from

01:21:34.520 --> 01:21:34.820
Binary

01:21:34.820 --> 01:21:35.280
Revolution

01:21:35.280 --> 01:21:35.600
you should

01:21:35.600 --> 01:21:35.940
check it

01:21:35.940 --> 01:21:36.100
out

01:21:36.100 --> 01:21:37.760
www.binrev.com

01:21:37.760 --> 01:21:38.180
slash

01:21:38.180 --> 01:21:38.780
Hack TV

01:21:38.780 --> 01:21:39.800
it is the

01:21:39.800 --> 01:21:40.280
new

01:21:40.280 --> 01:21:41.000
new show

01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:41.620
from Hack TV

01:21:41.620 --> 01:21:41.980
Underground

01:21:41.980 --> 01:21:43.000
the first one

01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:43.460
is only a couple

01:21:43.460 --> 01:21:43.980
of minutes long

01:21:43.980 --> 01:21:44.520
it explains

01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:44.820
the whole

01:21:44.820 --> 01:21:45.140
premise

01:21:45.140 --> 01:21:45.520
the proof

01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:46.000
of concept

01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:46.340
for the

01:21:46.340 --> 01:21:46.620
show

01:21:46.620 --> 01:21:47.480
and really

01:21:47.480 --> 01:21:47.760
we want

01:21:47.760 --> 01:21:47.940
to get

01:21:47.940 --> 01:21:48.220
everybody

01:21:48.220 --> 01:21:48.680
to check

01:21:48.680 --> 01:21:49.000
it out

01:21:49.000 --> 01:21:49.620
and contribute

01:21:49.620 --> 01:21:50.220
so that

01:21:50.220 --> 01:21:50.500
we can get

01:21:50.500 --> 01:21:50.960
a nice

01:21:50.960 --> 01:21:51.600
cool new

01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:51.740
show

01:21:51.740 --> 01:21:51.880
I don't

01:21:51.880 --> 01:21:52.120
want to give

01:21:52.120 --> 01:21:52.460
away too

01:21:52.460 --> 01:21:52.680
many of

01:21:52.680 --> 01:21:53.120
the details

01:21:53.120 --> 01:21:53.380
because I

01:21:53.380 --> 01:21:53.700
want everybody

01:21:53.700 --> 01:21:54.040
to have to

01:21:54.040 --> 01:21:54.980
watch the

01:21:54.980 --> 01:21:55.760
three minute

01:21:55.760 --> 01:21:56.180
clip

01:21:56.180 --> 01:21:57.680
and it's

01:21:57.680 --> 01:21:58.040
got a couple

01:21:58.040 --> 01:21:58.340
of funny

01:21:58.340 --> 01:21:58.860
jokes in it

01:21:58.860 --> 01:21:59.120
so it's

01:21:59.120 --> 01:21:59.400
not just

01:21:59.400 --> 01:21:59.740
me being

01:21:59.740 --> 01:22:00.060
boring

01:22:00.060 --> 01:22:00.460
I promise

01:22:00.460 --> 01:22:03.100
so check

01:22:03.100 --> 01:22:03.680
that out

01:22:03.680 --> 01:22:04.160
alright

01:22:04.160 --> 01:22:06.420
I personally

01:22:06.420 --> 01:22:06.440
I personally

01:22:06.440 --> 01:22:06.760
don't have

01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:07.200
any announcements

01:22:07.200 --> 01:22:07.500
but

01:22:07.500 --> 01:22:08.080
Cy Pete

01:22:08.080 --> 01:22:08.280
in the

01:22:08.280 --> 01:22:08.840
IRC channel

01:22:08.840 --> 01:22:09.860
is wondering

01:22:09.860 --> 01:22:10.780
if anyone

01:22:10.780 --> 01:22:11.200
in north

01:22:11.200 --> 01:22:11.460
central

01:22:11.460 --> 01:22:11.860
Florida

01:22:11.860 --> 01:22:12.540
are going

01:22:12.540 --> 01:22:13.060
to spring

01:22:13.060 --> 01:22:13.520
break

01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:14.580
so

01:22:14.580 --> 01:22:17.200
for whatever

01:22:17.200 --> 01:22:17.780
that's worth

01:22:17.780 --> 01:22:21.160
who asked

01:22:21.160 --> 01:22:21.320
that

01:22:21.320 --> 01:22:22.700
in the

01:22:22.700 --> 01:22:23.320
IRC channel

01:22:23.320 --> 01:22:25.320
alright

01:22:25.320 --> 01:22:26.400
oh yeah

01:22:26.400 --> 01:22:27.100
IRC channel

01:22:27.100 --> 01:22:27.700
IRC dot

01:22:27.700 --> 01:22:28.100
binrev

01:22:28.100 --> 01:22:28.580
I'm sorry

01:22:28.580 --> 01:22:29.180
IRC dot

01:22:29.180 --> 01:22:29.700
freenode dot

01:22:29.700 --> 01:22:29.960
net

01:22:29.960 --> 01:22:30.300
pound

01:22:30.300 --> 01:22:30.700
binrev

01:22:30.700 --> 01:22:30.940
we're on

01:22:30.940 --> 01:22:31.240
freenode

01:22:31.240 --> 01:22:31.500
now

01:22:31.500 --> 01:22:32.360
you know

01:22:32.360 --> 01:22:33.480
yes

01:22:33.480 --> 01:22:34.140
come on

01:22:34.140 --> 01:22:34.280
over

01:22:34.280 --> 01:22:35.640
um

01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:37.200
shouts

01:22:37.200 --> 01:22:37.560
troops

01:22:37.560 --> 01:22:37.720
do you

01:22:37.720 --> 01:22:37.940
have any

01:22:37.940 --> 01:22:38.220
shouts

01:22:38.220 --> 01:22:39.720
to everyone

01:22:39.720 --> 01:22:40.280
that is linked

01:22:40.280 --> 01:22:40.740
to from

01:22:40.740 --> 01:22:41.340
infanomicon

01:22:41.340 --> 01:22:42.060
dot org

01:22:42.060 --> 01:22:47.800
and especially

01:22:47.800 --> 01:22:48.340
pony boy

01:22:48.340 --> 01:22:48.840
for trying to

01:22:48.840 --> 01:22:49.240
come on the

01:22:49.240 --> 01:22:49.420
show

01:22:49.420 --> 01:22:51.300
for 30 seconds

01:22:51.300 --> 01:22:52.000
pony boy

01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:53.020
I completely

01:22:53.020 --> 01:22:53.580
forgot about

01:22:53.580 --> 01:22:54.020
pony boy

01:22:54.020 --> 01:22:54.960
but I guess

01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:55.440
he had phone

01:22:55.440 --> 01:22:55.700
trouble

01:22:55.700 --> 01:22:56.380
no I think

01:22:56.380 --> 01:22:56.700
that's my

01:22:56.700 --> 01:22:57.200
phone trouble

01:22:57.200 --> 01:22:57.780
new aster's

01:22:57.780 --> 01:22:58.280
box and all

01:22:58.280 --> 01:23:00.680
no that's

01:23:00.680 --> 01:23:00.920
sucks

01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:01.880
sorry pony boy

01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:02.160
maybe we'll

01:23:02.160 --> 01:23:02.560
have you on

01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:02.700
later

01:23:02.700 --> 01:23:04.100
um

01:23:04.100 --> 01:23:05.580
nerd or

01:23:05.580 --> 01:23:05.800
something

01:23:05.800 --> 01:23:06.880
let's hope

01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:07.080
he has

01:23:07.080 --> 01:23:07.380
something to

01:23:07.380 --> 01:23:07.700
talk about

01:23:07.700 --> 01:23:07.980
then

01:23:07.980 --> 01:23:09.800
uh

01:23:09.800 --> 01:23:10.320
zigman do you

01:23:10.320 --> 01:23:10.540
have any

01:23:10.540 --> 01:23:10.800
shouts

01:23:10.800 --> 01:23:11.560
uh

01:23:11.560 --> 01:23:12.040
quick shout

01:23:12.040 --> 01:23:12.360
to my

01:23:12.360 --> 01:23:12.740
traveling

01:23:12.740 --> 01:23:13.360
companions

01:23:13.360 --> 01:23:14.180
super kt

01:23:14.180 --> 01:23:15.280
and uh

01:23:15.280 --> 01:23:15.620
logos

01:23:15.620 --> 01:23:16.600
and uh

01:23:16.600 --> 01:23:17.080
his brother

01:23:17.080 --> 01:23:18.060
and of course

01:23:18.060 --> 01:23:18.620
all our

01:23:18.620 --> 01:23:19.420
binrevers

01:23:19.420 --> 01:23:21.360
and once again

01:23:21.360 --> 01:23:21.900
to the staff

01:23:21.900 --> 01:23:22.340
at innerzone

01:23:22.340 --> 01:23:22.660
it was an

01:23:22.660 --> 01:23:22.900
excellent

01:23:22.900 --> 01:23:23.320
conference

01:23:23.320 --> 01:23:23.640
we'll see

01:23:23.640 --> 01:23:24.240
everybody again

01:23:24.240 --> 01:23:25.100
next year

01:23:25.100 --> 01:23:26.480
logos x

01:23:26.480 --> 01:23:27.080
with elite

01:23:27.080 --> 01:23:27.760
driving

01:23:27.760 --> 01:23:28.760
skills

01:23:28.760 --> 01:23:30.400
strong

01:23:30.400 --> 01:23:30.560
do you

01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:30.780
have any

01:23:30.780 --> 01:23:30.940
shouts

01:23:30.940 --> 01:23:31.420
shouts

01:23:31.420 --> 01:23:31.700
to mark

01:23:31.700 --> 01:23:32.060
spencer

01:23:32.060 --> 01:23:32.680
mark has

01:23:32.680 --> 01:23:33.460
made my

01:23:33.460 --> 01:23:34.220
day

01:23:34.220 --> 01:23:38.300
he sent

01:23:38.300 --> 01:23:39.040
you flowers

01:23:39.040 --> 01:23:40.120
not quite

01:23:40.120 --> 01:23:41.180
um

01:23:41.180 --> 01:23:43.100
not quite

01:23:43.100 --> 01:23:43.800
um

01:23:43.800 --> 01:23:44.640
i don't think

01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:45.000
i have any

01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:45.220
shouts

01:23:45.220 --> 01:23:45.660
actually

01:23:45.660 --> 01:23:46.460
shouts

01:23:46.460 --> 01:23:46.860
to stank

01:23:46.860 --> 01:23:47.140
dog

01:23:47.140 --> 01:23:47.760
for giving

01:23:47.760 --> 01:23:48.840
a very

01:23:48.840 --> 01:23:49.100
cool

01:23:49.100 --> 01:23:49.620
presentation

01:23:49.620 --> 01:23:50.320
and hack

01:23:50.320 --> 01:23:50.580
soaring

01:23:50.580 --> 01:23:50.920
people

01:23:50.920 --> 01:23:51.840
who own

01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:52.380
botnets

01:23:52.380 --> 01:23:52.820
or something

01:23:52.820 --> 01:23:54.560
and uh

01:23:54.560 --> 01:23:54.780
shouts

01:23:54.780 --> 01:23:55.100
to dr

01:23:55.100 --> 01:23:55.400
zingman

01:23:55.400 --> 01:23:55.640
and droops

01:23:55.640 --> 01:23:55.920
for coming

01:23:55.920 --> 01:23:56.320
on tonight

01:23:56.320 --> 01:23:56.620
thank you

01:23:56.620 --> 01:23:57.080
very much

01:23:57.080 --> 01:23:58.260
thanks for

01:23:58.260 --> 01:23:59.400
having us

01:23:59.400 --> 01:23:59.860
hey thanks

01:23:59.860 --> 01:24:00.140
guys

01:24:00.140 --> 01:24:00.560
all right

01:24:00.560 --> 01:24:01.020
our closing

01:24:01.020 --> 01:24:01.580
music

01:24:01.580 --> 01:24:02.060
tonight

01:24:02.060 --> 01:24:02.920
is um

01:24:02.920 --> 01:24:03.860
it's

01:24:03.860 --> 01:24:04.120
what's

01:24:04.120 --> 01:24:04.420
oh

01:24:04.420 --> 01:24:04.980
sorry

01:24:04.980 --> 01:24:05.280
is it

01:24:05.280 --> 01:24:05.540
strong

01:24:05.540 --> 01:24:05.860
singing

01:24:05.860 --> 01:24:06.100
something

01:24:06.100 --> 01:24:06.400
no

01:24:06.400 --> 01:24:06.780
it's

01:24:06.780 --> 01:24:07.100
it's

01:24:07.100 --> 01:24:07.320
the

01:24:07.320 --> 01:24:07.600
i think

01:24:07.600 --> 01:24:07.840
it's like

01:24:07.840 --> 01:24:08.220
the star

01:24:08.220 --> 01:24:08.720
fox

01:24:08.720 --> 01:24:10.140
um

01:24:10.140 --> 01:24:11.400
it's

01:24:11.400 --> 01:24:11.720
it's

01:24:11.720 --> 01:24:12.300
you don't even

01:24:12.300 --> 01:24:12.720
know what the hell

01:24:12.720 --> 01:24:13.020
it's called

01:24:13.020 --> 01:24:14.040
it's the

01:24:14.040 --> 01:24:14.980
space cowboys

01:24:14.980 --> 01:24:15.580
remix from

01:24:15.580 --> 01:24:16.280
star fox

01:24:16.280 --> 01:24:18.560
uh

01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:19.160
can you sing it

01:24:19.160 --> 01:24:19.860
i don't know

01:24:19.860 --> 01:24:20.300
the tune

01:24:20.300 --> 01:24:22.720
but it sounded

01:24:22.720 --> 01:24:23.340
cool so i

01:24:23.340 --> 01:24:24.720
downloaded it

01:24:24.720 --> 01:24:27.040
all right

01:24:27.040 --> 01:24:27.620
so

01:24:27.620 --> 01:24:29.140
if there's

01:24:29.140 --> 01:24:29.660
nothing else

01:24:29.660 --> 01:24:30.240
uh yeah

01:24:30.240 --> 01:24:31.100
email email

01:24:31.100 --> 01:24:31.840
email is radio

01:24:31.840 --> 01:24:32.680
at binrev.com

01:24:32.680 --> 01:24:33.260
completely forgot

01:24:33.260 --> 01:24:33.780
to say that

01:24:33.780 --> 01:24:35.060
as always

01:24:35.060 --> 01:24:35.620
it's radio

01:24:35.620 --> 01:24:36.580
at binrev.com

01:24:36.580 --> 01:24:37.100
email us

01:24:37.100 --> 01:24:38.000
actually email

01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:38.300
is starting to

01:24:38.300 --> 01:24:38.720
become an issue

01:24:38.720 --> 01:24:39.040
we're starting

01:24:39.040 --> 01:24:39.340
to get a lot

01:24:39.340 --> 01:24:39.740
of spam

01:24:39.740 --> 01:24:40.420
like you know

01:24:40.420 --> 01:24:40.940
for like

01:24:40.940 --> 01:24:41.620
half our

01:24:41.620 --> 01:24:42.140
messages this

01:24:42.140 --> 01:24:42.420
week were

01:24:42.420 --> 01:24:42.700
spam

01:24:42.700 --> 01:24:43.080
i was very

01:24:43.080 --> 01:24:43.460
disappointed

01:24:43.460 --> 01:24:45.980
so uh

01:24:45.980 --> 01:24:46.360
yeah just

01:24:46.360 --> 01:24:46.900
go ahead and

01:24:46.900 --> 01:24:47.480
email us or

01:24:47.480 --> 01:24:47.680
whatever

01:24:47.680 --> 01:24:49.140
and as always

01:24:49.140 --> 01:24:49.740
we will see you

01:24:49.740 --> 01:24:50.240
next week

01:24:50.240 --> 01:24:51.220
same hack time

01:24:51.220 --> 01:24:51.820
same hack

01:24:51.820 --> 01:24:52.480
channel

01:24:52.480 --> 01:24:55.800
bye

01:25:09.900 --> 01:25:12.460
yo

01:25:12.460 --> 01:25:13.320
bye

01:25:13.320 --> 01:25:16.080
yo

01:25:16.080 --> 01:25:17.140
yo

01:25:17.140 --> 01:25:19.600
yo

01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:19.740
yo

01:25:19.740 --> 01:25:20.180
yo

01:25:20.180 --> 01:25:50.160
Thank you.

01:25:50.180 --> 01:26:20.160
Thank you.

01:26:20.180 --> 01:26:50.160
Thank you.

01:26:50.180 --> 01:27:20.160
Thank you.

01:27:20.180 --> 01:27:50.160
Thank you.

01:27:50.180 --> 01:28:20.160
Thank you.

01:28:20.180 --> 01:28:50.160
Thank you.

01:28:50.180 --> 01:29:20.160
Thank you.