This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers
I see in binary, I speak source code
Step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you and a fag poned
In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho
Cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold
I was a dick with my 56
Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable
On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo
On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero
In a flash, I'll screw you on burning dreamcast
You need some ISO? Let me through my hard drive rifle
Our exchange you could never stifle
In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug
I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z
Your CG, it's all gonna be free
Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely
You feel that rattling earphones?
When I tell you we just hacked out Jones
And NASDAQ leaves you flat on your back
Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack
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This is dedicated to the hackers and the crack
Hello and welcome to Binary Revolution Radio
Episode 147
Today's date is May 9th, 2006
I'm Black Ratchet
And with us this evening
Back from his world tour
Coming straight in from China on the red-eye flight
Is Stank Talk
You're a liar, there's no Stank Talk on the show tonight
Why do you get people's hopes up?
I was just doing it actually
I know you're an AI construct
But you know
See if you didn't say anything
We could have gone away with it
I'm an amalgam of every bad hacker
That's ever existed on the planet
I am nothing but an AI algorithm
I am pretty much the AI algorithm of a noob
That's pretty much
What is it?
Oh shoot
I remember the
Oh no
Stank 6.7
I'm up to 6.7 and I still suck this bad?
Come on man
You're hit by Microsoft man
What did you expect?
Oh damn
That's what the problem is
Oh well
Anyway
Yes
Good to be back on the show
Episode 147
Man
What have you guys been doing without me?
Oh
I bet there's like
You know
Two or three people
Who can say nothing
So you know
People are probably saying right now
I'm not doing anything
These shows have no content
Yeah
I probably could name those people
But we won't go there
Well
Speaking of content
I was kind of thinking ahead about this episode tonight
I think it would be pretty cool
Have you guys done an episode on Asterisk yet?
Uh
Yeah
Sort of
Alright
Wow
Yeah
I mean it wouldn't hurt to do
You know
Like another
An extra episode
I mean you haven't done a lot of episodes
Have you?
Oh
Just about three
Okay
Or four
Well
Alright
Well I'll tell you what
We'll hold on to that one for a while
Let's do
Like I've been
I've been kind of interested in Gen 2 lately
Have you done anything like about Gen 2 at all?
No
Gen 2
Gen 2's not allowed on the show
It's not?
But Gen 2's leaked
No
Gen 2 sucks
Oh man
Alright
Fine
Well
Alright
I know what you probably haven't talked about
I bet you haven't done an episode about the iPod
Uh
Well
Uh
Oh man
You're killing me here
You're killing me
Well it's a good thing we take live call-ins here on the show now right?
Yeah
Let's do that one of those shows where we just do all live call-ins
Alright
Sounds like a good idea
Uh
888-9-BINREV
Alright
Well I'll tell you what
Let's do
Like you know
Teoxy is right now
Picking up the phone
Dialing in
I'm sure he is
But let's
Before we let him start calling in
Let's do
Uh
Should we do the email now?
Actually
Actually what you'd like
Can put a disclaimer right now
That we're not live
We're actually
This is
This is pre-recorded
Don't pick
Put your phones down
Hang up
You're just gonna get their voicemail system thingy
That I don't think I actually think really works anymore
Oh man
You're no fun
You should have let him go through the whole email calling in
At least we would have got some voicemails out of the deal
True
Nah
I don't want to be that evil
Plus
Plus we're paying for it
So
I
I like
I'm evil
That's my thing
Well
This is still my show
Alright
Fine
It's your show
I'm just a co-host
Alright
Whatever
Let's go to email
No
Yes
Maybe
Sounds like a good idea
Do we have email this week?
Yes we do have email this week
So let's go fit into the email theme
Shall we?
There we go
Alright so I tell you what
Why don't you do the email
Since it's your
You're better at it than I am
And I'm gonna stumble over the words
Oh yeah
Right
I'm better at you than you are
I'm Mr
Uh
Um
Yeah
And then
Anyway
I just mispronounce everybody's name
And I get yelled at for it
So I'm putting it all on you
Yeah well this email
Well it's from Ghost Shadow
And it says
Hey guys
This email was just meant to comment
On the XV6700 phone
Not theory was talking about
Verizon did
Like always
Cripple some functions
From within the phone
But most of them
If not all
Can be fixed by a simple registry edit
Here's a link to some nice docs
If you want to enable those features
And it gives
TinyURL.com
Slash
November
Hotel
Uniform
Yankee 3
Also to comment on the dialing features
If I remember correctly
The 6700
Can use the keyboard
Number pad
Dial
Though you have to slide it out
When you want to dial
It can still be done
I just wanted to note this
Because the phone
Is a pretty sweet phone
Though the vendor
Cripples functions
They can be fixed
So I think this makes the phone
A nice contender
The Ghost Shadow
And I gotta say
I'm looking at the
XV6700
And that
I didn't know
All those things
Could actually be solved
By registry edits
I'm pretty sure
At least on the trio
That it's actually
Burned into the firmware
Or whatever it is
Like you know
They've neutered it
Completely and totally
But it's refreshing
To know the 6700
Is at least
Unneuterable
Or something
Well I don't know
If it's
In the
I've seen some things
Out there
Some hacks
To get around
Some of the limitations
I haven't read
Too much detail
On whether they're
Altering the
Well and when you say trio
I'm assuming
Like for anybody
Who doesn't know
I know I've been away
For a while
So I don't know
If this has come up
But I've had a
Palm trio 700
W for a while now
Which sucks
That's the short
Summary version of it
And a lot of the stuff
Is just
Set hidden settings
In the software
In Windows
Mobile 5.0
Which is what it runs
So maybe some
Of the stuff is
But some of it
Is not
Some of it
Is just simply
Hidden settings
That you can access
And it is also
From Verizon
So
They are famous
For doing that
Sort of thing
Yes
Verizon sucks
And actually
I'm not sure
If I mentioned
This week
I actually
Was looking at
The
I was further
Researching
The PPC
Which is the one
From Nextel
And Verizon
Would charge you
Somewhere around
The lines
Of $115
A month
For
The same deal
That Nextel
Flash Sprint
Will give you
For
I think it was
Like $75
$60
Or about
Somewhere in that range
For what
Like an unlimited
Data plan
Unlimited data
Completely and totally
It's $15
Tapped onto your
Account
And you can use
It as a modem
For your computer
Which technically
They don't want
You to do that
But it's completely
And totally impossible
To tell that you're
Actually doing it
Or just doing some
Really heavy duty
Browsing on your
Phone
Well actually
That's just it
Is um
That's one of the
Things that I
Dislike about the
Phone is that
They disabled that
They crippled that
On the
Trio 700w
That's one of my
Biggest things
That I hate about it
Now they claim
That they're going
To add that
Support in here
Sometime soon
They claim that
It wasn't ready
That it was still
Buggy
When they released
The phone
So they're going
To add it in
Later at no charge
Well I'll leave
That when I see it
I know they're
Going to end up
Trying to get
Something else
Out of you for that
And secondly
There are third
Party applications
That will do
The same thing
So and there
Are hidden settings
In there that
You can mess around
With and that's
What the third
Party software
Really does
I think
But I figured
I don't really
Need it right now
But it is one
Of the things
I was looking for
When I was shopping
Around for the phone
Well that was
One of the
That's one of the
Showstopper things
For me
I want it
For my commute
I want to have
You know I want to
Be able to plug it
Into my computer
And be able to
Completely use my
Computer on the bus
Or on the train
Or wherever I am
And just you know
Have it completely
Networked in
And I can surf
The interweb
And look at
Porn while on
The bus
And it will be
Good
Oh man
That is so
Hot
I am so
Turned on
Right now
Yeah
Porn on the bus
No actually
Not theory
And maybe he
Spoke about this
Before
It's just the
Bluetooth
Done that doesn't
Work
I think with
The USB cable
You can still
Use it
On your laptop
But the Bluetooth
Is what's
Crippled on it
What's disabled
On it
Yeah
And I mean
And I also think
You need that
PDA net software
That I think
You mentioned
Last week
But like
With the
Nextel one
It's all fully
Enabled
You can use it
Via Bluetooth
You can use it
Via USB adapter
I believe
There's some
Software
I believe the way
It actually is
Built in the phone
That if you use
The Bluetooth
There's some
If you use
Some type of
Dialing client
That they include
With the phone
You only get up
To like you know
800k a second
But if you download
Some other software
You get up to like
You know
Some obscene
Bandwidth
It's like
Disgustingly sick
I think you like
Literally you max out
Your EVDO connection
Well yeah
I was going to say
One thing I do have
To give them credit for
The EVDO
Is tight
It is very fast
Even when I've only got
One bar
And the voice signal
Sucks
I still get pretty fast
Speed on the EVDO
Network
On the EVDO
Connection
Which I thought
That would degraded
With the signal quality
But I really
Haven't noticed
I'm not doing
A whole bunch of
It's not like
I'm serving up
A torrent file
From my Trio 700
Or anything
Although that would
Be pretty uber
We should try that
That would be so
Leap to pull that off
That would be cool
Just to do it
But um
And imagine if we
Release that
BitTorrent client
To everybody
To put on their
Trios
Or walking around
A mobile army
Of BitTorrent clients
Find me now
Bitches
Try to bust my ass
When I'm mobile
Anyway
They can probably
Just send you a mail
At home
And say
Well you gotta go
Home sometime
You gotta pay
His bill
No not necessarily
Oh true
Yeah
Anyway
Um
Yeah that's why
You can't get
These prepaid
Yeah I gotta
Say
I gotta agree
With you
I was in
A Verizon store
And lo and
Behold
They had both
The VX6700
And the Trio
Working
In a fully
Demonstratable model
And completely
Hooked into the network
Like it was weird
All of their phones
Were tied into the network
And I called by phone
From one of them
And I got the phone number
And I could call it
Whenever I wanted
I felt like I have it
In my thing
And um
The Trio was there
And I was like
Oh man
I can play on this
And I pull it down
And I pull up
Like you know
CNN.com
And I was like
Oh my god
That's fast
Wow that's pretty cool
Yeah that's
See what I wanted
To use mine for
One of the things
I was envisioning
Was going to
The BR407 meetings
That I started here
And being able
To use this device
To my
Through my laptop
And setting the laptop
Having it set shared
So that the whole meeting
We could all surf through it
And believe it or not
I mean it's not
Going to be
You know
Super fast
But it's going to be
Fast enough
That we can all
Look up stuff
On the fly
If we need to
That's actually
A great idea
Yeah I think
That would be
Pretty cool
So if and when
I get that happening
I'll maybe write that up
Into a little article
Or something
Talk about it on the show
Or something like that
And actually
Maybe this would be
A good point to
Well you know
I'm not going to do
A big review
It sounds like
Not Theory
Already talked about
The trio on the phone
He and I both
Have the phone
Well he talked about it
Somewhat
But he was like
I mean you're talking
About bugs
And you know
Like there was always
Very general
Oh there's bugs
And it isn't as
You know
Good as we wanted
To be
Like what
What actually
Well I don't know
I don't know if
I'd really refer to it
As a bug
When it doesn't
Fucking work
Wow
Is it sort of like
Those singular commercials
And you're sitting there
And it like you know
Drops your call
And you like
Suddenly go mute
You can't talk anymore
No this is more like
By the way I think
I just totally spiked
The microphone
On that streaming session
Welcome back
Stank dog rants
Sorry if I blew
Anybody's ears out
On that one
But anyway
Well I'll do a quick
Mini review then
Like I mentioned earlier
It's powered by
Windows Mobile 5
There has been
Yeah there has actually
Been a little software patch
Recently released for it
That's supposed to fix
A few bugs in it
I haven't noticed it
I'm still getting problems
If anybody out there
Has one
I'll tell you one trick
That I found
That helps out a lot
This thing was crashing
On me
And I'm not exaggerating
Two or three times a day
And when I say crashing
I'm talking about
Not turning on crashing
It's a PDA phone
Okay so for people
Who don't know
You probably can go online
Right now while you're listening
If you want to kind of
Look at the pictures
Or see what the phone's like
If you're not already
Familiar with it
But basically
It's got a little
Two inch by two inch
Screen on here
I think it is
240 by 240 pixels
Powered by Windows Mobile
Well
It's
Most of the battery power
Of any device like this
Is eaten away by your screen
Your actual LCD on the screen
Is what drains your battery
Faster than anything
So the thing will
There's an on off button
On the front of the device
But the on off button
Doesn't do anything
Except to turn the screen
On and off
There's really no way
To turn the phone
On and off
Short of
Cold booting the system
And that refers to
I don't know if that's
Of course that's not
An official term
But flipping the phone over
And popping the battery
Out of the back
Is the only way
To turn the phone off
That I have found
And that's annoying
When the thing crashes
What I'm finding
Is that I will be
I'll get up in the morning
Take it to work with me
I'll set it on my desk
And maybe by lunchtime
I'll grab the phone
To check and see
If I've gotten any emails
Or anything like that
Which I guess
I'll get to that in a minute
That was the selling point
For me
Was the whole
Blackberry type
Push the email
To me
But I'll reach over
To check and see
If I've got email
Or anything like that
And I'll press the on button
To turn the screen on
But it doesn't come on
It's completely hung
And locked up
That's what my biggest
Problem with this
Has always been
At any given point in time
You reach for your phone
You never know
If it's going to work or not
And it was literally
Well that's been stank
I mean you always
Like him hung don't you
I'm sorry I always
You always like him hung
I'm sorry
This is stank dog
Not Strom Carlson
Oh
Sorry different co-host
That was a different week
I think you're a little bit confused
You've been doing the show
With Strom a little bit too long
If you weren't going
And getting married
I'd have to question that
But we won't go there
That door was right there
I had to go
Yeah well you gave me
The opening there
I can turn the phone on
On and off the screen
But I can't actually
Turn the phone itself
Power it off
Without popping the battery out
There is a reset button
On the back
To reset it
So what was happening
Was every time
I'd go for the phone
It'd be sitting idle
On my desk for a couple hours
I'm not doing anything
I'm not running
Distributed.fucking.net
Or any intensive stuff on it
Another cool thing
To port over
I'm not running torrents
Like I said before
So there's no reason
That I shouldn't be able
To pick up my phone
And it worked
Is that too much to ask
Hello Verizon
Are you listening
Can you hear me now
Okay
Give me a phone that works
So one thing I found
If anybody else
Has this problem
The one trick that I found
And it certainly wasn't
From any Verizon help
Or anything
Is there is an audio
Voice recognition software
Built into it
And by default
And I guess that's so
You can do voice activated
Dialing and things like that
Well I don't really use it
So I was playing around
With the settings
Just trying anything
To get the phone to work
And ever since I turned
That off
Which of course
Is very handy
If you're using
A Bluetooth earpiece
Stuff like that
I don't use that very much
So I turned that off
And ever since I did that
It's only dying on me
Once every four or five days now
Three or four days now
So
I gotta say
It's a more interesting solution
Yeah
So it's kind of
But you know
The thing is
That bothers me
Because guess what
Verizon
I paid for a phone
Here's Verizon's concept
Of offering a phone
And here's a list of features
Here's the Verizon
Here's the Trio 700
The Palm Trio 700
Here's the list of features
Available on it
Oh
There's the little asterisk
Here's the list of features
That actually work
Without crashing your phone
Where's the truth
In advertising
Don't advertise something
As a feature
If it's not going to
Make my phone
Work properly
Oh man
Can you tell
I've got a lot of
Pent up frustration
I don't have the show
To take out all my anger on
Oh yes
I mean you don't
Have the soapbox anymore
Exactly
So man
It's like I'm backed up here
I might have to do
A lot more yelling
Through the rest of this episode
Do you suffer from
Soapbox
Do you suffer from
Yelling constipation
And lax
Lax at all
Maybe for you
Or
In rev radio
Yeah there you go
Whatever
Anyway let's see
One of the other things
I don't care too much
About the phone
Compared to other
Windows Mobile 5.0
Devices that I've seen
Phones that I've seen
The
What they call
The today screen
Which is
I guess think of it
As your desktop
Or something along those lines
Is not as customizable
As I would like
It only gives you a list
Of about 7, 8, 9
Different things
That you can put
On that screen
I would like it
To be flexible enough
To put anything on there
If I wanted an animated
GIF
Of
Of that one penguin
That knocks the other penguin
Into the ice water
I wouldn't be able to do that
You know the picture
I'm talking about right
I think you're one of
Two people in America
That will actually want that
On their phone
I don't
I'm just saying
The point of
Of the age of 13
Having the flexibility
Of doing that
Anyway
I can put on
My voicemail
I actually may have found
A big security problem
With this phone already
And I
Can't go into
Too much detail about it
But
It could be Uber
If I confirm it
Actually
I tested it
On Not Theory's phone
But I haven't talked to him
To see if it worked
Or not yet
Oh that
Oh
I remember you
Telling me about that
Did he talk
He didn't mention it
I don't think
It's a real
No I
I thought you talked to him
I didn't ask him about it
Oh no
I don't think
I'd call that
An Uber security feature
But it's
It's not a
Well it's a
It's a security hole
In that
I mean
We all know that
It's easy to get
Someone's email address
Knowing that
They've got a trio
And
Mass
You know
Mail bombing it
Or sending multiple
Messages to it
And if this trigger
That I have found
Works
You could
You could fill their memory
I mean
It's a
It can be
Potentially a DOS
On the phone
True
Has anyone
Actually ever done a DOS
Has anybody ever
DOSed a phone
Could I be the first one
To actually DOS a phone
No
Someone did it
It was back on
It was on the
GPRS network
Some telecom provider
In Europe
They had
I think it was a
Nokia
Something or other
And someone found
That if you
When you got a
Public IP address
Which is what
The telecom people
Assigned you
And you sent it
A very specific
Ping payload
I'm not sure
If it was like
A big ping payload
Or like something
Too smart
Or something
Just out of spec
It would lock up
The phone
And you had to
Turn it off
And turn it back on
They had enough
Public IP addresses
To hand them out
Like that
To every individual phone
I guess
I think
It was something
To do with like
You know
VPN clients
Or
You could
You could request one
It's all
It's all like a trio
When you're like
Dialed into their
Data service
It would give you that
Yeah but I'm going
Through a gateway
To do that
I don't know
How that
I have to
I'd have to read that
You can
They can set it up
No matter how they want
But they just
Actually gave you
A public IP address
This time
Hmm
Yeah I'd have to
Read up on that
That sounds interesting
Um
Another
Yeah another
Drawback to this
Is
The 240 by 240 pixel screen
So
A lot of applications
That were developed
To run on Windows
Mobile 5.0
Don't work
Because they're sized
For a
I think a
384 by
Something
Something or other
I don't know
They're designed
For a bigger screen
Like a full size
PDA
Not this little
Micro PDA phone
I think it's
320 by 240
If I remember correctly
That's probably
Accurate
Um
So they
They don't fit
On the screen
Properly
It gives you
Scroll bars
So
I think it's
Bigger than 240
Length wise
Or width wise
Also because
I get scroll bars
On the top
Sides and the bottom
As though it's
Not filling
So
A lot of apps
Either have to be
Rewritten
To work with that
Strict
That um
Restriction
Or
They sometimes
Will still run
But you get the
Scroll bars
Or
A third option
Is some of them
Will shrink it
So that
It fits into
The 240 by 240
But you still get
Gray area on the
Sides
Where it basically
All it did was
Do a percentage
Reduction of
The overall
Graphic size
I'm just
I'm just picturing
Like you know
Your phone
In the little corner
You got the
You got gray area
There saying
But you're a nigger
What?
Yeah
Um
What else don't I like
About the phone
It's got a built
In 1.3 megapixel
Camera
That does not
Look like it's
Taking 1.3
Megapixel pictures
That's kind of
Disappointing
The pictures aren't
Nearly
The quality that
They say they are
I don't think
I have a regular
1.3 megapixel
Digital camera
And this thing
Doesn't even come
Close to it
The camera phone
In this
Um
Have I totally
Hijacked
This is supposed
To have been
Like the email
Segment isn't it
Well they're
Talking about
The phones
And I'm actually
Curious about
Some of the
Problems that
You've been
Having so
Alright well
Hell I'll keep
Going
It comes with
Windows
Or I'm sorry
Microsoft
What is it
I think it's
Pocket Outlook
Pocket Excel
Pocket Word
One of the
Coolest ones
That I did
Thought
That I thought
Was interesting
Is Pocket
PowerPoint
Say that
10 times fast
Um
Which basically
Is
It's not as
Cool as I
First thought
It was
It's basically
A PowerPoint
Viewer
You can't do
Any editing
You can't do
Any modifying
Or anything
Like that
Um
But it works
As a viewer
So I actually
Had this with me
When I gave
My presentation
In dinner zone
A couple months
Back
Um
I took
It'll take
Your actual
PowerPoint
Presentation
In PPT
Format
From your PC
Throw it over
Here and it'll
Actually display
On this
So you can
Actually walk
Around
And tap
The screen
And go
Through
Your slides
Only to
You though
It would
Really be
Cool that
What they
Should have
Added in
There is
The ability
To
If I
Tap the
Screen
And or
Point it
At the
You know
Point it
At an
Infrared
Controller
Of some
Kind so
That I
Could actually
Move from
Slide to
Slide
I cannot
Control the
Slides
From this
Well actually
What you
Can do
At least
On my
Axum
From Dell
Is you
Can buy
An adapter
That adapts
It to a
VGA
And you
Can hook
That into a
Projector
Wired
Yes it's
Wired
Sadly
Yeah see
That's just
It I mean
I want to
Be able to
Walk around
When I
Give presentations
I usually
Like to
Kind of
Wander around
And I
Like standing
Behind a
Little podium
Like
Like I'm
Pounding on
The soapbox
Even though
I do that
Quite a bit
Word mobile
Is a
Functioning
Copy of
Word
It's not
Very
You know
It's just
The basics
Which quite
Honestly
Is all we
Really need
On the PC
We don't
Need all
That other
Bloat
That they
Put into
It
But I
Won't
Go there
Either
Okay
I want to
Have my
Dancing
Characters
And my
Kerning
Yeah
The little
Microsoft
Dancer
That dances
On the
Taskbar
Yeah
That's exactly
What I
Need
On my
Trio
700
Dude
I'd love
That
That'd be
Awesome
That's
The only reason
I haven't
Bought it
Yet
If they
Release
That tomorrow
I'd be
Like
Bam
I'd be
In there
Of course
Now I'd be
Thinking about
Getting a
6700 too
But if they
Release that
Little stripper
Thing
Out of my
Taskbar
I'd be
Like
Yeah
I gotta have
That little
Breakdancer
Guy on
My cell phone
Yeah
That's what
Everybody
Needs
In their
Life
I'd be
Driving along
And I'd get
Into accidents
All the time
And I'd be
Like
Dude
I mean
I was
Looking at
My cell phone
Just check it
Out
And they'd be
Like
Oh
You can
Go
Yeah
Right
I'm sure
That'll
Happen
Well I
Don't want
To eat up
The whole
Show with
This
So I'm
Going to
Go quickly
Through the
Last couple
Things
The
Synchronizing
It's got
Active sync
So that you
Can put it
I actually
Bought a
Cradle
So that I
Can sync
It more
Easily
But it
Will
Cradle
It will
Sync
With just
The cable
That comes
With the
Original kit
The USB
Connector
But I
Bought a
Cradle
Because I
Kind of
Like that
Better
However
I don't
Actually sync
Any of my
Data using
The cradle
I don't
Want to
Sync it
With Outlook
Because I
Don't use
Outlook
So at
Home
So I
Don't
Really have
Anything to
Sync it
With other
Than syncing
In my
Contacts
At the
First
Time
And then
After that
I don't
Really use
Outlook
For mail
So there's
No point
Syncing it
And syncing
My calendar
And what
Not
The other
Thing they
Have is
Called
Verizon
Wireless
Sync
And that's
The one
That I
Use
And basically
What that
Is that's
Verizon's
Custom
Over the
Air
Synchronizing
Tool
So Verizon
Has a
Website
That you
Can go
To
And it
Stores
All your
Information
You log
In
And all
That kind
Of good
Stuff
And all
Your contact
Information
Is there
And if
You change
It on
The website
Or on
Your phone
The two
Sync
Together
And it
Actually works
Pretty good
I have to
Say
I've been
Very happy
With the
Performance
Of that
That's
Kind of
The hole
That I
Spoke about
Earlier
Is related
To that
But anyway
Anything that
I create
And you
Also set up
An email
Account in
There that
You wanted
To check
Now it's
Not truly
Push technology
It's not
Like the
Blackberry
The Blackberry
Is doing
This a little
Bit differently
This is
Definitely
Not the
Same thing
But it
Accomplishes
Sort of
The same
Thing
And that
Is basically
You can set
This up
To check
One
Pop 3
Account
Or one
Exchange
Account
Now that's
Another disappointment
I was expecting
To be able to
Check several
Email accounts
But it does
Not allow me
To do that
I can only
Have one
Account
Synchronized
Like that
What about
I'm sorry
What about
IMAP
I'm not sure
Honestly
I think it
Has to be a
Pop 3
Or an
Exchange
I think
Because
And this
Is why
The thing
Is that
What it's
Doing
Is it's
Not doing
True
Push
Technology
It's going
Out and
Polling your
Pop 3
It asks for
Your username
And password
And it
Goes out and
Polls every
So often
Your email
Account with
Those credentials
Pulls it down
And then
Shouts out to
Your phone
Every x number
Of minutes
And I think
The minimum
I think it's
Every 10 or
15 minutes
So it's not
Constantly polling
If you're using
A Blackberry
And correct me
If I'm wrong
Here
If I send
An email
Your Blackberry
Is going to
Notify you
Instantly
Or as soon
As that email
Gets there
It's going to
Forward it to
You
Correct
I believe so
Yes
So in this
One it's not
The case
You can send
The email
And it's not
Going to notify
Me until it
Does it's
Polling and
Check
And because of
The way it
Cycles it could
Be 15 minutes
Before it
Checks your
Email
And then
Another 15
Minutes
Theoretically
Before it
Actually contacts
Your cell phone
And if you're
Out of range
Or don't have
The EVDO
Connection on
At that time
It's going to
Skip and get
It the next
Go around
So it's not
The most reliable
Thing if you're
Looking for a
Solution to get
Notified by email
In a timely manner
It barely gets
The job done
It's not something
I would recommend
If you are
If you do have
Timing critical
Needs
So that
I would stay
Away from it
If that's what
Your goal is
I could go on
About this
But I think
It's pretty much
My biggest
Issues
And I think
That's probably
A lot of the
Biggest questions
That most people
Have about it
So feel free
I guess email us
Since we're in
The email segment
See how easy
I segway back
I haven't lost
The magic
He's got the touch
Email us
Radio at
Binrev.com
If you have
Any specific
Questions on the
Trio
I am going to
Write up
I've been meaning
To write up
A little
Entry on the
Blog
About the
Trio
A little mini
Review
So maybe
I'll get around
To doing that
Sometime soon
But if you have
Any more questions
That I didn't
Answer here
By all means
Let me know
And we'll read
Them on the air
Try to answer
Them
And I guess
Since I've eaten
Up half the show
Or a third
Of the show
We should go
On to the
Next email
Sorry Trio
Our next email
Is from
Megatron
Hey Black
Ratchet
Not there
I really enjoyed
Your talk on
Ruby on
Rails
From the last
Episode
But I need
Some clarification
On one thing
You mentioned
That there isn't
Really any
Real database
Support in the
Rails framework
Does that mean
The database
Libraries don't
Support anything
Beyond basic
Database functions
Or did you
Not install
Them
Megatron
The links
For the instructions
To install
These libraries
Are tiny
URL.com
Kilowatt
Hotel
Delta
Alpha
Echo
And
Wait a minute
What was that
Say that URL
Again I think
We got a little
Beep or something
In the middle
Of that
Oh that's weird
Kilowatt
Hotel
Delta
Alpha
Echo
Okay
Alright
The link
That he included
Rails actually
Has it's own
Database driver
To it
It's all
Written in
Ruby
And what
The thing
That he included
Was
A C version
Of that
That's
A lot
Faster
Apparently
According to
Their web page
And
It's not
One of the
Things that
They just
Support basic
Functionality
And actually
Someone did
Point out to me
In the
IRC channel
I actually
Believe
Osteoxy
He mentioned
Like five times
In this episode
Yeah
We need to
Get him on
An episode
Is what needs
To happen
We already
Mentioned him
So much
On here
Yeah
Well he's a
New
Come on
Yeah
I just
Called you
Out man
Yeah
What you
Going to
Do about
It
Huh
And he
Apparently there
Was a
Explanation of a lot
Of the complaints
That we had
And one of the
Things is that
They said that
Partly it was a
Database hit
And partially
It was
It does understand
Certain things
You have to be
Very specific
About it
And
It's not
Along the lines
Of it doesn't
Support these
Things
It's just
It's kind
Of finicky
I guess you
Could say
And I think
I'll kind of
Leave it at that
If you pop
In the IRC
Channel and
Ask me
I can probably
Type it out
A lot better
I just
Since we're
Kind of
So Stank
Decided to
Ran for
40 minutes
On his
Oh see
Here we go
With the
Blaming and the
Finger pointing
Already
I'm not even
Back for one
Episode
It's always
My fault
It's always
Your fault
Man
I think
I want to
Say
Oh it's
All my
Fault
I didn't
Do research
Into this
Which I think
I didn't
But anyway
Maybe it's
Because I've
Plugged in
And unplugged
And plugged
In and unplugged
From the
Scene 50 times
In the last
Year or something
I think that's
The accusations
That are being
Made
Of course
Ah what are
You going to
Do
Yeah
Honestly
I didn't
Quit in your
Live journal
Or something
Yeah go cry
Somewhere in
Your blog
About it
I actually
Looked into
Ruby and
Rails a little
Bit
Not theory
Definitely
Knew a lot
More about it
And I used
To ask him
A lot of
Questions
I never
Really liked
It from
The beginning
It just
Didn't
It's supposed
To be
Like very
Much
Rapid
Application
Development
You can
Build stuff
Quickly and
Easily
But I
Never
Really
I didn't
Like the
Inflexibility
Of it
And
What I
Mean by
That is
The way
That it
To take
Advantage
Of it
You have
To use
Like their
Default
Naming
Conventions
And file
Names
And stuff
Like that
And I
Yeah I'm
Sure
Not theory
Probably talked
About that
So I'm
Not going
To go
Into it
Again
I just
Found it
To be
Very
Inflexible
Ironically
When it
Could have
Been
So much
More
And I
Think even
Not theory
Kind of
It lost
Its magic
For him
After he
Started getting
Into it
A lot
More
So I
Don't
Know that
He's
Even
Really
Using it
For anything
Anymore
No he's
Not
Yeah
You haven't
Listened to
Last week's
Episode
Have you
I got
26 minutes
In and I
Have just
Been bombarded
At work
I listen
To podcasts
All day
And I
Still do
That's one
Thing that
Hasn't
Changed
All this
Time
But I've
Had a
Pretty rough
Couple
Of weeks
At work
As a matter
Of fact
As soon as
We're done
With this
Podcast
I've got
To get
On and
Do some
Work from
Home
Tonight
Fun
Um
Alright
So that
Sort of
Wraps it up
For email
I guess
Then
Do we
Have
Did you
Guys
Do we
Have like
A closing
Email
Theme
Dun
No
More
Email
Dun
Well I
Guess we
Got one
Now
People
Miss my
Singing
Don't
They
Oh
Yeah
We
Didn't
Do
It
I
Guess
Um
Yeah
Did you
Yeah
Well
Yeah
We'll sing
A duet
To close
The show
Out today
How about
That
Um
How about
No
Well look
We gotta
Get practice
If we're
Going on
American Idol
Next season
You better
Start practicing
One way
Or the other
Dude
Screw you
I'm going
Home
Yeah
Screw you
You guys
I'm going
Home
I'll just
Hang up
Right now
You know
I thought
My Cartman
Impression
Was pretty
Bad
Until I
Just heard
Yours
Oh
No
My
Thing's
Horrible
Oh
Okay
Yeah
Anyway
So
Email
How does
This show
Go again
What comes
After
Email
So
And
Chill
Oh
Hold on
Let me
Crack open
A beer
Here
And put
On a
Pot of
Coffee
So
Stank
What have
You been
Doing
Lately
What have
I done
Since the
Last time
I was
On the
Show
Nothing
Much
Your
Turn
Okay
No
I mean
I think
A lot
Of people
May already
Know this
But
One of
The biggest
Reasons
That I
Unplugged
Was because
I accepted
A new
Job
And moved
So
That takes
A whole
Lot of
Real
Life
Time
How is it
In Alaska
Just out of
Curiosity
It's cold
But there's
Lots of
Penguins
So
You know
It's kind of
Linux friendly
As far as
That goes
That's pretty
Cool
So did
The penguins
Actually come out
And work with you
Well you know
I figured I could
Use them for
Tech support
Ask them
Linux questions
But all they
Do is kind of
Stand there
And stare at
Me
But they
Work for
Fish
Um
Yeah
I guess
Just out of
Curiosity
I mean
I know
You don't
Have to
Worry about
Like overheating
Your computer
In an igloo
But I mean
Is it
Is it really
That tough
For keeping
It from
Locking it
Up
Well actually
Ironically
The problem
Is the heat
From the
Monitor
You know
I came up
With the
CRT
And it was
Actually melting
Out the top
Of the igloo
From the heat
So I had to
Switch to an
LCD
Yeah
Yeah it was
A bitch
I would have
Never thought
Of that
I almost drowned
One night
From it dripping
In my head
While I was
Asleep
Chinese water
Tortured by
Stankdog
Oh man
Have you been
Doing jokes
This bad
For the whole
Last season
Three
I don't know
No I think
I think we
Kind of were
Like you know
Not that bad
But when you
Come on
It just sort
Of comes out
I bring out
The worst
In everyone
Exactly
Because it's
Lame jokes
But you just
Like we
We just basically
Keep on feeding
Each other
Until it becomes
This horrible
Monstrosity
Well you know
What see
And this is
I'm not going
To get on a
Soapbox
But damn it
This is one
Message I want
People to hear
I'm not going
To make it
A long message
But it's
Supposed to be
Fun people
Hacking is fun
If you can't
Laugh and have
Fun
Even if it's
Laughing at
Yourself for the
Terrible jokes
Impressions
Redneck sound
Of your voice
Singing
Dialogue
If you're not
Having fun
You're doing
Something wrong
Get the fuck
Out
You're supposed
To be having
Fun
And if you're
Not having fun
Don't ruin my
Fun
Stifu or
Get to foe
Stifu or
Get to foe
That's our motto
That's my new
Life motto
Anyway
Moving
New job
Which of course
Takes
Anybody who's done
That knows
That takes a lot
Out of you
Basically
Packing up my
Entire life
Into boxes
Which are still
Not completely
Unpacked
Actually probably
Not even
Probably a little
Over halfway
Pretty much
Starting over
From scratch
So that takes
A lot out
So I unplugged
To do that
To spend some
Time with family
When you're leaving
You know
You're away
From your family
You're not going
To see them
So much anymore
So you know
Real life is
Greater than the
Matrix
We've always said
That
And it's true
And I'm here
To tell you
I'm here to
Bear witness
To that
I believe it
And anybody
Who thinks
That the internet
Is serious business
Is sadly mistaken
Once again
Fun
Don't forget
The ultimate goal
There
Fun and learning
That's all there
Is to it
Save the drama
For your mama
I would not say
The internet
Isn't serious business
But at the same point
There's other things
That are more serious
That need to be
Taken care of
Right
Absolutely
Now during that time
I have stayed
Around
Like of course
I mean
Black Ratchet and I
Have talked constantly
The whole time
I was moving
Touching base
Seeing how things
Are going
You've got things
Going on in real life
Coming up
That I alluded to earlier
Everybody's good
It's just been a real
Rough year
Real life
For all of us
For a lot of us
And that's affected
Things like the magazine
Falling behind
And stuff like that
There is some progress
On that
It's very close
To being done
Yeah I know
We probably say that
And then it'll get
Delayed again
But it's looking
Pretty good right now
We're hoping to have
That done
And debuted
At the 6th hope
Hope 6
69 hope
Whatever the hell
Is coming up
Hope 2006
We're also working
On some other plans
That we
Once we get finalized
We'll talk about
Them on the air
I made my first
Kind of re-entry
Into the scene
If you will
Back at Interzone
Rocket
A good friend of mine
Who runs Interzone
In Atlanta
Invited me up
To give a little talk
And I just happened
To have an interesting
Talk that I had given
At my local
Binrev meetings
And it was
Warmly accepted
So I figured
I'd take it up there
And it was pretty fun
Went pretty well
I think
People enjoyed it
Had a good time
And I have not
Really had time
To do much writing
I haven't had any
Articles in 2600
In a while
So there was
I think the last
One that got printed
Was actually something
I'd sent several
Months beforehand
So it may have
Looked like
Even though I was
Unplugged
It may have looked
Like I was still
Writing
I really wasn't
That was gone
For a while
I do have a couple
Article ideas
Coming up now
Same thing
I think I was
I think I'm even
In the current
Blacklisted magazine
But that was again
Something that I
Had written a while
Actually the
Blacklisted article
Was written a while
Back and that's
What my presentation
Was based on
So it's been
It was written
Quite a while ago
So hopefully
I'll get back
Into writing
Some stuff again
Doing some content
For Hack TV
Some video stuff
Presenting again
I'll be
Like I said
I will be at Hope
This year
I've already booked
My tickets and everything
ZeroDB and I
Are flying up there
And I've already
Booked a hotel
In Vegas
For Defcon this year
I'm curious to see
How it goes
At the Riviera
This year
That's my show
And tell
That's all
You're getting
That's all
You're getting
Bitches
Oh
We can go
Into so much
More detail
About how you
You know
You went over
Into the war
In Iraq
Yeah well
No no no no no
Then somebody
Will go out
And try to look
Up my numbers
And drop my
Docs
And all that
Kind of good stuff
True true
Plus we don't
Do politics
On the show
You haven't
Changed that
Have you
Oh I don't know
We're going to get
A manual on here
Next week
Oh no
Please dear god
Put a bullet
In my head
Now
We're going to
Get a manual
On here
Along with
Oh shoot
Who is it
I don't know
A couple of
The other guys
From off the hook
And we're going to
Have an entire
Hour and a half
Of whining about
Bush
And how he's
A horrible person
And taking away
Our rights
To
You know
Bomb stuff
See if I did
An episode
About lying about
Bush
It would be
Completely a
Different topic
It would be
A completely
Different type
Of Bush
Anyway
Well I mean
Do you really
Think a manual
Gets that kind
Anyway
Let's
Let's switch
Gears
On that note
What have you
Been up to
Lately
Dude we're
Eating up the
Whole show
Oh who cares
I know
I'm having fun
Screw this
This is the
Stank dog
Comeback
Reunion
Whatever
Stank dog
Reunion
Episode
I'm having
Fun
Buzz off
We'll have
Another one
In 20 years
Where like
You're older
And you're
Married
And you have
Kids
And it'll be
Like a flash
Future episode
And we'll get
All the DDP
Together
And it'll be
Right around
Christmas
You don't think
I'm actually
Going to make
It 20 more
Years do you
You forget
How old I am
What are you
Like 70
Yeah I'm
Getting there
People are
Living longer
Than you did
Yeah well
I don't know
About all that
We'll see
Alright so
What have you
Been working on
There buddy
I've been
Printing a lot
Printing
That's what I've
Been doing
Printing
If you've been
Hanging around
The IRC channel
And listening to me
Talk
I've been
In the middle
Of a project
For work
And quite
Literally
Over the past
Week and a half
I've printed
Somewhere in the
Range of
10,000 singles
9 by 11 sheets
8 and a half
By 11 sheets
Fake $20 bills
No
Sadly enough
It's just
Various work
Things
I really can't
Go into too
Much detail
About it
It's not
Illegal or
Anything
But I just
Want to drop
Docs
That don't
Want to be
Dropped
But yeah
I was printing
A lot
And it doesn't
Work for
Getting my
Cushy
I guess I
Gotta take
You off
Ignore
Yeah I
Guess so
Huh
Man I
I mean
I'm just
Glad
You took me
Off the
G line
On the
Server
Yeah right
Like I'd
Know how
To do
That
I are
The IRC
Noob
You're
Sitting in
There like
Doing all
Kinds of
Crazy colors
And
Yeah
Well
That's a
Whole nother
Thing
Please
I know
Geoxy is
Going to
Get mad
For that
One
I know
How much
He hated
That
But damn
It
See the
Thing is
I'm
Limited to
The software
I can
Install on
That particular
Computer
And
Yeah I
Probably
Don't even
Want to go
Much further
Than that
Let's
Just say
I use
Trillion
To access
IRC
On that
System
And
Trillion
Is the
Sucks
So
You're
Sitting there
Randomly
Messaging people
Asking
ASL
Exactly
Oh my god
ASL check
I hate those
Damn bots
I've been getting
A lot more
AIM bots
And yahoo bots
That say
Hi my name
Is cherry
ASL
And I always
Reply back
With like
99 donkey
male
No see
I always
Think it'd be
Fun to
Like you know
Just try to
Flood it
Full of
Like you
Know
Characters
And like
You know
Meaningless
Crap
Getting into
Like a
Sequel
Overflow
Or some
Grazy
Stuff
Probably
Not I
Would
Assume
No from
What I've
Seen
All it
Does
Is look
To see
If you
Respond
Of any
Kind of
Response
Whether
It's
A space
Or a
40 line
Sentence
Or a
Full
Buffer
Or whatever
It
Just responds
It says
Check out
My live
Webcam
It's like
Oh it's
Sweet
And he
Clicks
On it
And he
Like
Oh
Damn it
I got
Owned
Yeah
It's
Always
The
Goatsy
Man
It's
Not
Cool
Anyway
So what
Do you
Think
I really
Haven't
Been
Doing
Much
I've
Been
I've
Been
Doing
Real
Life
Business
Which
You
Have
Been
Alluding
To
Already
Yep
Real
Life
Business
Do we
Want to
Talk
About
That
Now
I
Know
We
Can't
I
Know
We
Can't
Touch
Certain
Topics
But
This
Is
Not
Oh
You
Want
Okay
We'll
Wait
We'll
Wait
Let's
Do
We're
Going
To
Our
Main
Topic
Yeah
Sure
Why
Not
Such
As it
Is
Asterisk
IRC
GED2
What
Are
We're
Doing
In
iPod
Okay
We can
Do
iPod
I
Don't
Know
I
Have
No
I
Think
We
Were
Going
To
Talk
About
Hardening
Your
System
Only
Because
I
Guess
I
Picked
That
Kind
Of
Because
We've
Had
A
Lot
Of
Threats
And
Attempted
Attacks
On
Our
Server
Recently
All
Of
We
Really
Be
Pissing
Off
The
Internet
At
Large
Yeah
The
Interweb
Doesn't
Like
Us
Have
You
Not
That
Sorry
I
Think
We've
Been
Pissing
Off
The
Assholes
Of
The
Internet
At
Large
Which
Technically
I
Really
Don't
Mind
It's
Kind
Of
Funny
The
Interweb
Seems
To
Hate
Us
Yet
At
The
Same
Time
Our
Site
Statistics
Are
Doubling
And
Tripling
So
Something's
Going
On
But
Do
We
Want
To
Mention
Something
Nope
We're
Not
Going
To
Go
There
Yet
Not
Until
I
Get
That
One
I
Want
To
Take
That
A
Little
Bit
Further
Before
That's
Publicly
Announced
Sorry
For
The
Teaser
That
Makes
sense
Sorry
For
The
Teaser
There
Everybody
On
But
I
Will
Bring
It
Up
On
The
Show
When
I'm
Done
But
Yeah
That's
Another
Thing
We're
Going
To
Stay
Off
Of
But
It's
Working
Pretty
Damn
Well
Yeah
Hardening
The
System
Basically
I
Guess
The
Reason
The
Trigger
For
Talking
About
This
On
The
Show
Is
Because
There's
Probably
A
Lot
Of
People
That
Have
Heard
The
Term
And
I'm
Sure
There's
A
Lot
Of
Listen
That
Are
Like
Yeah
I
Already
Know
What
That
Means
I
Already
Do
That
A
Lot
But
There's
Some
People
That
If
You
Don't
Have
Your
Own
Server
You
Don't
Have
Your
Web
Server
On
The
Global
Interweb
Or
Something
Like
That
You
Control
You
Might
Not
Be
Aware
Of
Some
Of
The
Responsibilities
That
Go
Along
With
Running
A
Web
Server
Especially
One
As
Frequented
As
Much
As
Bin
Rev
Is
Dude
Like
Stan
Lee
With
Great
Power
Becomes
Great
Responsibility
And
Yeah
I don't
Know
About
All
That
But
Basically
There's
A lot
Of
Work
There's
A lot
Of
Administration
Logos
X
And I
Were
Just
Talking
About
This
Last
Night
There's
A lot
Of
Time
That's
Spent
Doing
Administration
Of
The
Box
And
Of
The
Software
On
The
Box
That
Really
Eats
Into
A lot
Of
Your
Hacking
Time
Unfortunately
So
It's
Kind
Of
It's
A
Necessary
Evil
It's
Something
You
Have
To
Do
Everybody
Anybody
And
Everybody
No
Matter
What
Your
Website
Is
About
Or
The
Content
Of
It
Is
But
It's
Especially
For
Someone
Like
Us
Because
Everybody
Is
Gunning
To
Be
The
One
That
Hacks
Binrev.com
You
Know
Being
Our
Site
And
How
We
Always
You
Know
We're
A
Group
Of
Hackers
And
We're
A
Hacking
Site
People
You
We're
Basically
A
Mark
We're
A
Target
For
Everybody
And
Everybody
Wants
To
You
Know
Come
And
Be
The
One
That
Oh
I
Hacked
Binrev.com
I
Are
The
Uber
Elite
Hacks
Or
Whatever
Script
Kitty
And
That's
Basically
What
Happened
Fairly
Recently
And
I
Posted
It
In
The
Forums
Which
I've
Also
Been
Easing
Back
Into
Lately
As
I
Have
Time
Basically
There
Was
An
Exploit
Released
A
Which
Is
What
We
Power
What
Our
Forums
Is
Powered
By
Well
The
Forums
Have
Been
Passed
We
Keep
The
Forums
Up
To
Date
And
That
Is
What
Hardening
A
System
Fundamentally
Comes
Down
To
Keeping
Everything
On
The
System
Up
To
Date
Keeping
Your
Security
Your
Points
Of
Attack
On
The
System
Keeping
Your
Security
Nice
And
Tight
So
That
People
Don't
Have
A
Lot
Of
Places
To
Try
An
Exploit
So
Software
Is
One
Of
Those
Places
And
I
Think
It's
Probably
Where
We
Should
Start
First
With
This
Topic
And
We'll
Start
With
The
Forums
Because
That
Is
The
Biggest
Thing
That
We
Have
On
The
Box
There
Was
An
Exploit
Released
Or
A
Script
Released
That
Was
Takes
Advantage
Of
It's
Basically
A
Flaw
In
My
SQL
Which
Powers
Most
Forum
Software
Most
Envision
Boards
And
Envision
Will
Run
On
I
Know
Postgres
My
SQL
I
Believe
There
Are
Also
Microsoft
SQL
Server
And
Oracle
Hooks
As
Well
What
About
Microsoft
Access
Can
It
Run
Around
That
I
I'm
Thinking
That
Probably
No
Hell
No
Absolutely
Not
No
Nope
Not
Gonna
Happen
So
It
Took
Advantage
Of
An
Exploit
There
And
An
Unsanitized
In
Put
Validation
Kind
Of
Deal
Well
We
Keep
On
Top
Of
That
Stuff
Pretty
Well
We
Have
A
Few
People
We
Share
The
Admin
Responsibilities
Because
So
Many
Of
Us
Work
And
Different
Time
Zones
Helps
Out
A
Lot
Nick
Especially
Being
In
A
Different
Time
Zone
While
We're
Asleep
He's
Awake
And
Vice
Versa
So
It's
Good
That
We
Always
Have
An
Admin
Somewhere
Around
So
If
There's
Problem
We
Can
Help
Each
Other
Out
Cover
Each
Other's
Back
So
We
Had
Updated
The
Forums
So
That
This
Exploit
Wouldn't
Work
Secondly
We
Have
My
SQL
Configured
In
Such
A
Way
That
I'm
Almost
Positive
That
The
Exploit
Would
Not
Have
Worked
Even
If
We
Had
Not
Patched
It
Now
I
Could
Be
Incorrect
There
But
I'm
Pretty
Sure
It
Would
Not
Have
Affected
Anyway
So
In
The
Forms
If
You
See
There's
I
Think
Just
XPL
Does
That
Sound
Right
For
The
Subject
Line
Or
Something
Like
That
And
Basically
Here's
What
I
Haven't
Figured
Out
I
Don't
Know
If
It's
People
That
Are
Intentionally
Gunning
For
Us
Looking
To
See
What
We
Have
Enumerating
Our
Software
And
Then
Going
To
Find
A
Script
To
Attack
Us
Or
If
It's
Total
Script
Kitties
Who
Say
Oh
Look
Here's
A
Zero
Day
Exploit
For
Envision
They
Go
Google
To
Find
Any
Site
That's
Running
Envision
And
Hope
That
It
Works
So
I'm
Not
Sure
Which
Of
Those
Two
Classes
Of
Attacks
These
Are
Coming
From
I
Think
One
Of
The
Things
That
We
Had
Was
Type
A
At
Least
At
Least
One
Of
Them
Yeah
It
Might
Be
A
Mix
Of
A
Few
Of
Them
Yes
So
Regardless
Okay
It's
Pretty
Obvious
That
It
Didn't
Work
But
They
Keep
Trying
Again
So
It's
Kind
Of
Like
Maybe
You
Guys
You
Know
What
Here's
A
Little
Advice
Why
Don't
You
Set
It
Up
On
Your
Own
Site
And
Learn
How
To
Actually
Run
A
Script
If
You're
Going
To
Be
A
Script
Kitty
You
Look
Even
More
Pathetic
When
You're
Unsuccessful
Everybody
Sees
Those
Posts
And
We
Laugh
At
You
At
Your
Failure
At
Your
Miserable
Failure
That
You're
Trying
To
Attack
Something
It's
Just
Ridiculous
Spend
Some
Time
And
Understand
What
You're
Running
Read
The
Source
Code
If
You
Have
That
Ability
And
If
You
Don't
Learn
And
Teach
Yourself
Look
What
It's
Doing
And
See
If
You
Can
Figure
Out
What's
Going
On
And
Maybe
Modify
It
Take
It
The
Next
Step
Blindly
Running
Scripts
Just
Makes
You
Look
Like
A
Total
Noob
You
Fall
Flat
On
Your
Face
Now
Some
People
May
Think
And
I
Clarified
This
Right
Away
What
Happened
Is
Someone
Who
Shall
Remain
Nameless
Called
Me
At
About
7
A.M.
One
Morning
I
Don't
Know
What
Kind
Of
Idiot
Up
At
7
A.M.
Amen
Working
Stiffs
Like
Us
Yeah
So
When
I
Got
Up
Of
Course
I
I'm
On
My
Way
To
Work
So
I
Come
In
Here
And
Since
I
Didn't
Have
Time
To
Look
Into
It
To
See
How
Serious
It
Was
Or
If
It
Was
An
Effective
Attack
I
Just
Took
The
Forms
Offline
And
I
Left
A
Note
For
Nick
And
Can
You
Check
Into
It
And
See
If
It's
If
There's
Something
That
You
Can
Take
Care
Of
There's
Something
That
You
Can
Fix
Etc
And
I
Told
Him
That
It
Didn't
Look
Like
It
Worked
And
That
It
Didn't
Look
Like
It
Didn't
Look
Like
It
Was
Going
To
Work
Anyway
And
Nick
Had
Patched
The
Software
Recently
Fairly
Recently
Anyway
So
We
Were
Pretty
Much
Safe
All
The
Way
Around
So
As
Far
As
That
Goes
We
Were
Never
Really
Nothing
Worked
As
Look
At
It
So
Nothing
Actually
Works
In
Case
You
Are
Completely
Not
I
Call
At
7am
In
The
Morning
Because
I
I'm
Sitting
In
Line
Waiting
For
My
Bus
And
I'm
Checking
My
Email
On
My
Hip
Top
And
I
Say
Oh
You
Know
A
Couple
Reported
Post
I'll
Go
Check
Them
Out
And
Someone
Says
Oh
You
Know
This
Is
The
I
See
This
Really
Long
Strange
Line
InVision
I'm
Like
Oh
Crap
I
Check
It
Out
I'm
Like
Oh
Remote
Rude
InVision
Powerboard
And
I'm
Like
Oh
Shoot
I'm
Wanted
To
Call
Him
And
I'm
Riding
Down
The
Highway
In
My
Bus
And
I'm
Calling
Stank
Dog
On
The
Phone
Saying
Hey
You
May
Want
To
Check
This
Out
Yeah
And
I
Had
To
Crawl
Out
Of
Bed
Buck
Ass
Naked
I
Didn't
Want
Know
That
I
Hesitated
To
Give
That
Extra
Effect
Actually
That
Was
A
Lie
I
Don't
Sleep
Buck
Ass
Naked
Oh
Thank
God
I
Don't
Even
Picture
You
In
Your
Bed
But
I
Am
Tonight
So
For
All of
You
Listeners
Right
Now
Imagine
It
Picture
It
In
Your
Head
Sexy
Stank
Dog
Buck
Ass
Naked
Sleeping
In
The
Bed
Tonight
I
Am
Promising
You
The
Listener
Tonight
Tuesday
May
9th
Tuesday
May
9th
I
Am
Going
To
Sleep
Buck
Ass
Naked
Wow
Isn't
That
Fun
Now
That's
A
Radio
First
Right
I'm
Currently
Clearing
Out
My
Ears
With
Ammonia
Did
You
Throw
Up
A
Little
Bit
In
Your
Mouth
Oh
Yeah
I
Just
Did
I
Had
To
Take
A
Swim
A
Beer
To
Wash
It
Back
Down
Oh
Man
Anyway
So
That's
Just
One
Example
Of
The
Things
That
You
Have
To
Go
Through
When
Hardening
Up
A
System
That's
Just
One
Piece
Of
Software
As
You
Can
Imagine
We're
Running
A lot
Of
Software
On
Our
Box
Believe
It or
Not
Some
Of
The
Most
Secure
Software
Is
The
Stuff
That
You've
Written
Yourself
That's
Custom
Because
People
Can't
Look
At
The
Code
This
Could
Go
Into
I
Might
Save
This
Discussion
For
Another
Show
And
Made
Available
To
People
Or
Does
It
Make
It
Inherently
More
Secure
Because
More
People
Are
Working
On
It
To
Keep
The
Bugs
Out
Of
It
So
That's
A
Topic
For
Another
Day
Because
That
Could
Drag
On
But
No
Matter
How
You
Feel
About
How
You
Think
About
It
You
Got
To
Keep
Your
Software
Packages
Updated
And
Writing
Something
Like
Forums
Certainly
We
Could
Do
It
But
To
Have
All
The
Features
And
Stuff
That
InVision
Has
And
Some
Of
Those
Other
Boards
It
Is
Just
Not
Worth
The
Time
And
Effort
When
It's
A
Pretty
Good
Product
It's
Pretty
Secure
They're
Pretty
Quick
At
Repairing
And
Fixing
Any
Holes
Or
Flaws
In
Their
Software
So
Far
We've
Had
Really
Good
Luck
With
That
Even
So
Much
So
That
I
Recently
Purchased
And
Again
This
Is
Not
Free
The
Version
Of
InVision
We
Use
Is
Comes
Out
Of
My
Pocket
That
I
Pay
For
Because
We're
Too
Big
To
Run
On
That
Free
Version
Anymore
It
Was
Getting
Cumbersome
It
Didn't
Have
The
Features
That
We
Needed
And
I
Think
They've
Kind
Of
Abandoned
They
Have
An
Abandoned
Development
On
It
But
They're
Not
Pushing
It
As
Hard
As
They
Used
To
So
I
Purchased
That
I
Also
Purchased
The
Gallery
Plugin
Because
I've
Never
Found
A
Piece
Of
Gallery
Software
That
I
Liked
That
Was
A
Functional
And
B
Secure
And
That's
Another
Piece
Of
Software
That
Has
Possibility
For
Exploits
Any
Software
That
You
Get
You
Got
To
Think
About
The
Possibility
Of
Any
Zero
Days
That
Come
Out
Any
Security
Vulnerabilities
That
May
Have
And
Keep
That
Patch
So
Just
Already
Thinking
About
Bin
Rev.com
As
The
Example
You
Already
Got
Two
Pieces
Of
Software
Right
There
That
Are
Possible
Whole
Security
Holes
And
The
Traditional
View
Of
Security
Of
Course
Is
Minimize
All
The
Points
Of
Attack
Only
Put
Up
Things
That
You
Need
And
Let's
Kind
Of
Transition
From
This
To
The
System
Level
Stuff
I'm
Talking
About
Applications
To
Start
This
Off
Because
It's
I Keep
The
Gallery
Up
To
Date
And
I
Keep
Any
Other
Software
Packages
Up
To
Date
That's
All
Well
And
Good
But
If
You're
Not
Updating
Your
System
Software
There's
Lots
Of
Vulnerabilities
Whether
It's
Kernel
Vulnerabilities
Whether
It's
Apache
Vulnerabilities
All
Of
That
Stuff
Has
To
Be
Updated
Too
So
All
Of
Your
Server
Side
Software
Needs
To
Be
Updated
And
You
Can
Imagine
Apache
A
Web
Server
Of
Some
Kind
Apache
Usually
FTP
Server
If
You're
Running
It
Gosh
Help
Me
Out
Here
What
A
Streaming
Media
Server
Yeah
Icecast
Asterisk
If
You're
Running
It
IRC
If
You're
Running
That
FTP
Secure
Shell
DNS
Any
Server
It's
That
Simple
Any
Server
That
You're
Going
To
Be
Running
And
To
Run
A
Box
On
The
Global
Interweb
You
Need
A
Lot
Of
Stuff
Running
And
They
Have
To
Be
Updated
As
Well
So
How
Do
You
Do
That
Black
Ratchet
What's
An
Easy
Way
To
Keep
That
Stuff
Up
To
Date
App
Get
Upgrade
Yes
However
Yeah
Seriously
Want to
Talk
About
Stuff
Like
You
Know
I
Mean
Especially
If
You're
In
A
Web
Hosting
Situation
I
Mean
You
Have
You
Have
You
Have
Stuff
Like
You're
More
Familiar
With
The
Actual
Web
Based
Stuff
I
Want
This
Stuff
And
You're
Always
Going
To
Need
That
And
That's
Another
Thing
I
Recommend
To
Anybody
If
You're
Out
There
Looking
For
A
Hosting
Company
To
Put
A
Site
On
If
They're
Not
Offering
You
Some
Sort
Of
Shell
Access
I
Would
Shy
Away
From
It
Because
Even
With
The
Control
Panels
That
Are
Out
There
And
Available
I
Inevitably
Have
To
Go
To
I
Need
To
Have
That
Just
Because
I
Don't
Like
To
Use
All
Their
Little
Precant
Nonsense
If
It's
All
Possible
Well
The
Thing
Is
It
Makes
It
Faster
And
It
Comes
Back
To
What
I
Said
Earlier
When
You're
Adminning
A box
You spend
So
Much
Time
Doing
Administrative
Details
And
Upgrading
Stuff
That
It's
Really
Handy
To
Have
Some
Kind
Of
Control
Panel
That
Will
Automatically
Update
Your
System
A
Lot
Of
Places
Like
One
And
One
Has
This
Really
Awful
One
That
They
Written
For
Their
Own
Use
And
The
Reason
They
Do
That
By
The
Way
So
They
Don't
Have
To
Pay
Licensing
To
One
Of
The
Others
Webmin
That's
Another
One
That's
Free
There's
So
Many
Out
There
And
What
They
Do
Is
They
Save
You
Time
Because
They're
Doing
The
Same
Thing
That
You
Would
Do
From
The
Command
Line
They're
Just
Making
Up
So
It's
Faster
And
You
Can
Click
Them
All
From
A
Button
So
It's
Really
Useful
To
Make
Things
Faster
And
It's
Really
Useful
For
Web
Hosting
Because
You
Can
Grant
Access
And
Authority
To
These
Things
Via
Screens
And
You
Can
Say
Okay
I'm
Going
To
Give
I'm
Going
To
Host
Yapple.org
On
My
Box
And
I'm
Going
Give
Him
Access
To
These
Particular
Things
He
Might
Need
To
Look
At
His
Stats
He
Might
Need
To
Create
A
My
SQL
Database
Maybe
I'll
Give
Him
PHP
My
Admin
File
Manager
Etc.
Mail
Have
Him
Give
Him
Access
To
Set
Up
All
The
Mail
That
He
Needs
Obviously
That
Can
All
Be
Done
From
The
Command
Line
But
When
You've
Got
To
That
On
A
Daily
basis
And
Set
Our
Latest
Ones
By
The
Way
MC
Front
Lot
Shout
Out
To
MC
Front
Lot
Good
Friend
Of
Mine
We host
A lot
Of
People
Zerl
Of
Course
An
Old
Friend
Of
The
Show
We
Host
A
Lot
Of
Different
Sites
All
Of
Them
Have
Potential
Security
Vulnerabilities
And
All
Of
Them
Need
To
Be
Updated
And
Patched
And
A
Control
Panel
And
A
Web
Host
Manager
Back
End
Or
Some
Sort
Time
So
It's
Really
I guess
I can
See
That
Then
Yeah
It's
Really
Handy
But
Sometimes
Frankly
It
Just
Doesn't
Work
The
Way
You
Want
It
To
A
Lot
Of
Times
It
Customizes
It
Does
Things
Differently
It
Doesn't
Use
The
Standard
File
Locations
Which
Can
Be
A
Pain
In
The
Butt
It
Will
When
You're
Doing
Virtual
Hosting
Some
Things
Aren't
Designed
To
Work
Well
With
Virtual
hosting
So
It
Will
Try
To
Trick
The
Server
By
Putting
Configuration
Files
In
Each
Home
Directory
In
Different
Places
And
Look
Through
Them
But
Only
If
You
Set
It
Up
Through
The
Control
Panel
Or
With
A
Certain
Flag
And
It
Can
Be
Messy
It's
Basically
Trying
To
Set
Up
A
Way
To
Do
It
Behind
The
Scenes
To
Make
It
In
To
The
User
But
It
Doesn't
Always
Work
Right
And
Then
You
Find
Your
Sells
Having
To
Go
Back
To
That
Shell
And
Fix
It
Manually
To
Get
It
Back
Where
You
Want
So
There's
Pluses
And
Minuses
I
Think
The
Pluses
Outweigh
The
Minuses
Myself
Obviously
Control
Panel
Software
Is
Yet
Another
Point
Of
Attack
So
That
Also
Has
To
Be
Updated
So
If
You
Cracked
Control
Panel
Software
You
Basically
Have
Full
Control
Over
Everything
You
Can't
Really
You
Can
Get
A
Lot
Of
Access
There's
No
Doubt
About
That
So
You
Want
To
Keep
All
That
And
The
Control
Panel
Will
Help
You
Keep
All
Your
Other
Software
Packages
Up
To
Date
If
You
Take
Advantage
And
Configure
It
Right
Some
Things
You'll
Still
Have
To
Update
Manually
And
You
Have
To
Update
The
Control
Panel
Itself
So
You've
got
All
That
Going
On
And
How
Often
Do
You
Think
You
Do
Something
Like
That
Security
Vulnerabilities
Come
Out
I
Mean
We
All
Know
What
A
Zero
Day
Is
Something
Could
Come
Out
In
The
Morning
And
You're
Owned
By
The
End
Of
The
Day
So
You
Got
To
Find
That
Balance
That
Fine
Line
Of
When
Do
You
Stop
How
Often
Do
You
Go
And
Update
Your
Server
And
Stuff
Like
That
I
Mean
If
You're
Really
Paranoid
You
Could
Be
Doing
It
On
A
Daily
Basis
And
That
Is
No
Fun
You'll
Never
Get
Anything
Done
That
Way
No
You
Never
Will
So
And
I
Mean
It's
Basically
To
Borrow
Term
Here
It's
An
Arms
Race
It
Really
Is
You
Have
To
Basically
Just
Keep
Ahead
Of
One
Step
Ahead
Of
Them
And
They're
Constantly
Trying
To
Keep
One
But
That's
Because
We
Do
Take
Pride
In
That
We
Do
We
Are
Very
Careful
About
It
Does
That
Mean
We're
Unhackable
Absolutely
Not
Oh
No
Yeah
It'd
Be
Foolish
To
Say
That
And
You
Know
I've
Said
This
On
The
Show
Before
I
Watch
The
Logs
Constantly
One
Thing
I
Do
Watch
Is
To
See
What
People
Are
Doing
I
See
All
The
Little
Attacks
That
People
Do
I
Don't
Care
I
Don't
Mind
Them
You
Can
Try
Stuff
As
Long
As
You're
Not
Disrupting
Our
Service
Or
Deleting
Something
Causing
Problems
On
The
Server
I
Know
People
Are
Probing
And
Checking
Stuff
Out
I
See
People
That
Update
Their
Little
Perl
Script
Into
The
Anonymous
FTP
You
Think
You
Hack
The
Site
Because
You
Upload
A
Picture
Of
Goatsy
Guy
Into
the
FTP
Incoming
Directory
Or
The
Anonymous
FTP
Directory
Yeah
You
Hack
Sword
The
Anonymous
FTP
By
Logging
On
To
It
The
Thing
That
Had
World
Rewritable
Rights
To
It
Man
You're
Amazing
You
You've
Got
Elite
Upload
Skills
Oh
So
We
See
Some
Of
It
Silly
Like
That
Some
Of
It
They're
Uploading
Perl
Scripts
Thinking
They
Can
Execute
them
Remotely
There's
Just
So
Many
Things
That
People
Try
Tons
Of
You
See
People
Trying
To
Use
Windows
Based
Attacks
On
Linux
Box
I
See
People
Using
Old
Outdated
Attacks
Because
We've
Updated
Stuff
I
See
The
Zero
Days
Which
Again
We
Try
To
Keep
That
Updated
So
It's
Funny
I
Shouldn't
Watch
It
And
You
Know
I
Will
Say
Can
I
Tell
A
Story
I
Mean
We
Were
Talking
About
This
Today
I
Think
I
Know
Who
You
Somebody
Was
Threatening
The
Server
And
Oh
Yeah
We
Found
Out
About
It
And
We
Were
Looking
Into
It
And
We
Stumbled
Across
Logs
We
Saw
What
He
Was
Saying
And
All
Of
A
Suddenly
He
Is
Saying
Oh
Yeah
I
I'm
Tell
Letting
Into
Their
Server
And
I'm
Sending
A
Windows
Share
Command
And
I'm
Going
To
Have
It
Share
A
File
To
Me
At
A
Certain
Time
This
And
What
That's
Impossible
What
Is
He
Trying
To
Do
Well
It's
Not
Possible
On
Multiple
Levels
Too
There's
No
Tell
Net
Access
There's
No
Windows
System
There's
No
It's
Yeah
Some
Of
The
He
Specifically
I'll
Call it
A
Net
Share
And
For
Those
Of
You
Who
Aren't
In
Windows
Net
Share
Actually
You
Do
Interacting
With
Windows
Shares
Like
You
What
He
Was
Tell
Into
To
Be
Honest
With
You
And
He
Was
Sending
Us
A
Net
Share
Command
To
Share
Our
C
Drive
Which
Is
Really
Not
That
Useful
On
A
Linux
Server
Yeah
There's
No
Tell
Net
I
Mean
It's
Just
It's
Bizarre
It's
Just
Funny
It's
Laughable
Some
Of
These
People
Are
Joke
And
Then
Of
Course
Mix
In
With
Those
You
Got
Mix
In
Disgruntled
Banned
From
The
Forum
People
Want
To
Come
On
There
Do
We
Yeah
We
Have
Just
A
Couple
Just
A
Few
They
Come
In
They
Get
Banned
From
The
For
Doing
Things
That
Are
Clearly
Against
The
Rules
And
Then
They
Get
Surprised
And
Upset
That
They
Get
Banned
From
The
For
Sometimes
They
Get
Mad
Just
From
A
Warning
They
Don't
Even
We'll
Give
A
Plus
One
Slap
On
The
Wrist
Warning
And
They
Fly
Off
The
Deep
End
About
It
Going
Why
Can't
You
Warn
Me
Oh
You
Suck
Okay
It's
The
Foo
Or
Get
To
Foe
Easy
Decision
So
We
Get
Those
And
They
Come
In
And
They
Try
Their
Exploits
And
I
See
Another
Just
XPL
Out
There
Okay
Great
Fine
Delete
Whatever
It's
Just
Delete
And
To
Go
Back
I
Want
Say
We're
Not
We're
Not
Unhackable
Or
Anything
Like
That
We
Just
Try
To
Do
Our
Best
Just
Like
Everybody
Else
Out
There
The
Thing
Is
I
Will
Be
Very
Angry
If
Somebody
Does
Exploit
The
System
And
Causes
Damage
I
See
The
Attacks
Out
There
I
See
People
Trying
Stuff
I
See
People
Probing
There's
Nothing
Wrong
With
Learning
To
A
Certain
Extend
I'm
Saying
That
On
The
Air
I'm
Telling
You
I
Don't
Mind
You
Looking
Around
The
Box
You
Can
Scan
Us
I
Don't
Mind
You
Might
Get
Some
Surprising
Scan
Results
Because
You
Never
Know
What
We're
Running
On
Our
End
But
You
Can
Do
That
Stuff
What
The
Hell
This
Is
Running
A
C64
Operating
System
What's
That
Mean
This
Is
Running
On
System
360
I
Didn't
Know
It
Actually
Worked
On
That
There's
A
Line
That
Gets
Crossed
If
You're
Going
To
Try
To
Damage
Something
Or
Disrupt
The
Services
Of
The
Thing
I
Have
A
Problem
With
That
So
To
Me
I'm
Pretty
Lighthearted
It's
All
Fun
And
Games
You
Can
Play
Around
With
It
To
A
Certain
Limit
To
A
Certain
Extent
You
Can
Scan
You
Can
Probe
You
Can
Look
If
You
Delete
Something
Or
Fuck
Something
Up
You're
Going
To
Get
Bit
You
Don't
Fuck
With
The
Dog
I'm
Just
Saying
There's
Certain
Lines
That
Don't
Get
Crossed
So
Be
Careful
With
What
You're
Doing
And
The
Threats
That
You
Make
And
Because
We
See
It
We
Have
Friends
And
We
Have
Some
Enemies
Out
There
We
Have
Some
People
That
Don't
Like
Us
But
I
Like
To
Think
We
Have
More
Friends
Than
Enemies
Assholes
So
It
Gets
Back
To
Us
What
People
Are
Trying
And
What
They're
Doing
So
Just
Play
It
Safe
And
Either
Come
To
Us
And
Say
Hey
Can
You
Mind
If
I
Try
This
I've
Done
That
With
People
Yeah
Try
It
Because
Guess
What
If
It
Works
Let
Me
So
I
Can
Fix
It
Help
Me
Out
You
Know
I
Want
People
To
Do
This
Stuff
So
That
They
Learn
It
But
Again
It
Comes
Back
To
The
I
Guess
The
Whole
Black
Hat
White
Hat
Mentality
That
You
Know
Again
Could
Be
A
Whole
Another
Argument
Topic
For
Debate
I
Don't
Know
I
Just
Wrote
Red
Hat
I'm
Rambling
At
This
Point
So
I
Guess
I'm
Pretty
Much
Out
Of
Out
Of
Material
For
The
Night
I
Think
It
Really
Came
Around
From
You
To
But
I
Mean
You
Know
We
Kind
Of
Did
Cover
Some
Things
Here
But
We
Also
Covered
Along
The
Lines
Of
You
Know
Just
Hey
Man
Be
Groovy
To
One
Another
Yeah
Right
Well
You
Know
There's
The
Old
Bland
Inquisitor
Mind
Don't
Be
A
Penis
The
Old
Bland
Inquisitor
Mindset
The
Old
Bland
Inquisitor
Rule
Don't
Be
A
Penis
You
Know
You
You're
Just
Taking
Something
That's
A
Good
Open
Community
Of
People
Who
Are
Trying
To
Learn
And
Help
Themselves
And
You're
Disrupting
It
Either
Whether
It's
Via
Drama
Whether
It's
Via
Your
Script
Kitty
Attacks
Whether
It's
Via
Bitching
And
Complaining
Whatever
I
Mean
I
Don't
Understand
Why
People
Do
That
And
That's
Another
One
Of
The
Reasons
For
I
Unplugged
Was
I
Just
Got
Tired
Of
Seeing
People
Bitch
And
Don't
Drain
The
Community
And
Cause
People
To
Not
Want
To
Be
In
It
And
Contribute
Anymore
Stand
Up
Grow
A
Pair
Of
Balls
And
Stand
Up
When
Things
Are
Going
Wrong
When
Somebody
Is
Being
An
Ass
Grow
A
Pair
Of
Balls
And
Do
Something
About
It
You
Know
If
Somebody
Steps
In
To
This
Community
To
Me
I'm
Not
Going
To
I'm
Getting
All
Sappy
And
Corny
But
This
Is
Like
A
Family
To
Me
I
Have
Some
Of
The
Best
Friends
That
I
Know
That
I've
Met
Through
Bin
Rev
You
Know
And
To
Me
It's
Like
You're
Attacking
My
Family
When
You
Come
On
And
Start
Talking
About
This
Sucks
And
These
People
Suck
And
Your
Form
Suck
And
Your
IRC
Sucks
And
I
Hate
You
And
That
Article
Was
Terrible
And
That
Episode
Of
Radio
Show
Sucked
Ass
And
I'm
Tired
Of
You
Know
What
Stufu
Or
Get
To
Foe
It's
That
Simple
And
I
Don't
Know
Why
People
Make
It
Complex
One
I'll
Just
Leave
It
Like
This
If
You
People
Have
Ever
Seen
The
Stephen
Chagall
Movie
Hard
Target
It
Was
A
Lot
Like
That
With
Like
A
Steak
Just
Snapping
And
Going
Out
Everything
Sorry
Not
Hard
Target
Above
The
Bodies
For
Weeks
It
Was
Amazing
Well
When
You
Say
We
I
Didn't
I
Didn't
Ferry
Anybody
I
Know
You
Did
A
Lot
Of
Work
Not
There
Came
Down
Natas
Came
Down
I
Came
Down
We
Got
The
Backhoe
Out
A
Couple
Of
Nights
In
The
Everglades
And
The
Wiser
But
The
One
Hacker
Thing
We
Did
The
One
Hacker
Thing
We
Did
One
Little
Trick
We
Pulled
We
Went
To
Home
Depot
And
Bought
The
Shovels
And
Then
When
We
Returned
Them
And
Got
Our
Money
Back
How
Lead
Is
That
Was
Awesome
That
Was
So
Lead
And
Like
When
They
Started
Looking
At
It
What
Is
This
I
Was
Like
I
Don't
Know
The
Red
Paint
Must
Have
Been
On
There
When
I
Picked
It
Up
Exactly
Oh
Okay
It's
Not
Paint
It's
Nailed
We
Can
Tell
Them
That
Obviously
Geez
Wow
Yeah
Whatever
Well
We
Washed
Them
Off
Pretty
Good
Anyway
Alright
So
Let's
See
Hardening
The
System
I
Think
That
Pretty
Much
Covers
It
See
The
Thing
Is
This
Is
I
Think
It
Hardly
Covered
The
Topic
I
Was
Going
To
Say
That
I
Think
We
Kind
Of
Like
You
Branched
Out
To
An
Our
General
Thing
Yeah
We
Definitely
This
Was
An
Overview
Just
For
People
To
Understand
All
The
Time
That
It
Takes
To
Run
A
Server
And
The
Hardening
And
How
Much
Time
It
Takes
To
Do
The
Administration
Detail
Obviously
If
We
Wanted
To
Talk
About
Specifics
Of
Hardening
A
System
We
Can
Go
Down
And
Say
Okay
Here's
Apache
Here's
How
It
Works
Here's
Why
Some
Exploits
May
Work
On
Here's
Potential
Attack
Points
Here's
How
They
Fixed
It
Here's
How
You
Keep
It
From
Happening
Again
Here's
How
You
Minimize
Like
I
Said
We've
Done
Some
Things
To
My
SQL
And
To
Apache
Actually
So
That
Even
If
A
New
Zero
Day
Comes
Up
We've
Got
It
Locked
In
Such
A
Way
That
It's
Not
Going
To
Let
You
Execute
Much
Even
If
The
Exploit
Work
It's
Not
Going
To
Let
You
Execute
Things
As
Root
We've
Got
Anyway
We could
Get
Into
So
Much
More
Detail
That
Would
Be
A
Very
Time
Consuming
And
B
Very
Dry
Boring
Radio
And
I
Know
That
Our
Listeners
Would
Much
Rather
Hear
Me
Sing
Or
Not
I
Wouldn't
Go
That
Far
Yeah
Well
All right
I
Won't
Sing
Anymore
Today
However
And
I
Guess
We'll
Move
Into
Our
Wrapping
Up
Here
However
I
May
Sing
On
A
Future
Episode
Of
The
Show
Because
Why
Do I
Say
That
Black
Ratchet
Well
I
Hate
To
Say
This
To
Everybody
But
I
Am
Taking
A
Sabbatical
From
The
Show
I'm
Taking
A
Very
Extended
Sabbatical
From
The
Show
When
I
Initially
Took
This
Over
I
Don't
Even
Know
When
You
Initially
Told
Me
I
Think
It
May
Or
Something
He
Said
Oh
Man
I'm
Thinking
About
Stopping
Bin
Radio
And
I
Was
Like
Oh man
That
Sucks
And
He
Says
Well
I
Mean
The
Other
Inserting
Thing
Is
Do
You
Want
To
Take
It
Over
And
I
Said
Yeah
I
Could
Probably
Do
That
I
Guess
Oh
Just
Take
It
Over
To
December
And
We'll
Just
Take
It
From
There
Personally
I
Just
I
After
December
Came
And
Went
I
Was
Just
Like
I
Am
Getting
Hitched
Real
Like
We
Were
Saying
Real
Life
Is
Coming
Up
I
For
A
Night
And
Having
To
Record
The
Show
And
Edit
It
All
Up
And
Then
She
Was
She's
Been
Very
Gracious
And
I
Would
Like
To
Thank
Her
For
That
Not
That
She
Ever
Listens
But
No
Chicks
I
Am
Heading
Off
I
Am
No
Longer
Going
To
Be
The
Default
Host
We
Have
Plans
For
The
Future
Stuff
Is
Going
To
Come
About
And
I
Think
We'll
Kind
Of
Season
But
As
You
Can
Tell
When
Troops
Had
To
Take
Over
The
Episode
That
Was
Basically
The
Final
Nail
Of
No
I
Can't
Do
This
While
I'm
Getting
Married
And
I
Like
To
Thank
Troops
Have
Shouts
Out
To
Him
And
I'd
Like
To
Thank
You
You've
Done
A
Good
Job
On
The
Show
For
The
Past
Year
Despite
What
Some
People
May
Have
Bitched
About
You
Have
Been
Listening
Have
You
I
Absolutely
Have
Been
Listening
And
I
Do
Think
That
You've
Done
A
Really
Good
Job
On
The
Show
I
Completely
Mean
That
When
I
Say
It
I
Still
Been
Listening
To
Every
Episode
I
Haven't
Finished
Last
Week
Because
I've
Been
Tied
Up
To
Work
But
I
Started
It
I
Still
Listen
To
The
Radio
Show
Every
Week
And
I
Have
Been
Listening
To
It
Ever
Since
I
Got
Moved
In
Up
Here
And
Got
Interweb
Access
Again
So
You've
Been
Doing
A
Good
Job
And
I
Thank
You
Publicly
For
Doing
It
Again
Droops
For
Filling
In
For
The
One
Week
That
Was
Like
The
Only
Show
We
Almost
Missed
And
Droops
Saved
Us
By
Picking
Up
The
Slack
On
Very
Short
Late
Notice
So
Very
Late
Very
Short
And
As
Far
As
The
Future
Of
The
Show
I
I'm
Thinking
Of
Doing
Maybe
A
Format
Change
To
The
Show
First
Of
All
And
Congratulate
Not only
Thanks
But
Congratulations
By
The
Way
That's
A
Pretty
Big
Deal
That's
A
Pretty
Big
Real
Life
Step
Between
Movings
And
People
Getting
Married
And
Getting
New
Jobs
And
Stuff
We've
Had
A
Pretty
Good
Successful
Year
For
DDP
As
Far
As
The
Personal
Life
Good
Things
Have
Been
Happening
And
Again
It
Always
Takes
Prestance
Over
Other
Stuff
I
Know
People
Get
Disappointed
With
The
Magazine
Not
Coming
Out
Or
Hack
TV
Not
Coming
Out
As
Frequently
As
We'd
Like
Or
Whatever
But
You
Know
What
We're
All
Making
Good
Positive
Steps
In
Our
Real
Life
And
That's
The
Reason
And
That's
Always
Going
To
Win
So
Congratulations
To
You
And
We
Will
Make
Sure
That
We
Get
You
Back
On
The
Show
Sometime
Soon
It's
Not
Like
You're
Disappearing
From
The
Face
Of
The
Earth
You're
Just
Going
To
Take
A
Little
Short
Time
Off
Right
I'll
Still
Be
Contactable
I don't
know
You can
Don't
Contact
Me
By
Email
I'll
Be
Around
People
I
Post
My
I
Post
My
Number
On
Every
Forum
Post
I
Want
An
Answer
To
That
I
Want
An
Answer
Before
Hold on
That's
Going
To
Stick
In
My
Head
For
The
Rest
Of
The
Night
Is
Contactable
Is
Contactable
Is
That
Is
That
A
Word
I
Don't
Know
Hold
On
Able
To
Consult
The
Able
To
Be
Contacted
See
I
Always
Cheat
And
Just
Find
A
Different
Way
To
Say
It
Able
To
Be
Contactable
That
Sounds
Right
That
Sounds
Right
It
Says
All
Words
Dot
Com
Has
A
Definition
But
Google
Doesn't
Recognize
It
As
A
Word
However
It
Not
Saying
That
It
It's
Misspelling
And
The
Spelling
Not
Contacting
Contacts
Contact
No
Dictionary
The
Source
Contactable
Wow
That
Just
Sounds
Odd
Though
Well
That
Concludes
The
Spelling
Nazi
Portion
Of
The
Show
Yep
Another
Bin
Rev
Tradition
So
Yeah
So
Format
Changes
For
The
Show
First
Of
I'm
Going to
Do
Something
Like
Off
The
Hook
And
We
Should
Just
Sit
Back
And
Bash
Bush
No
That's
Not
Going
to
Happen
That's
Not
going
To
Happen
And
Because
I'm
Dumb
We're
Not
Doing
Any
More
Live
Call
In
Technology
Stuff
This
Is
Old
School
If
You
Haven't
Heard
Figured
It
Out
By
This
Episode
This
Is
The
Old
School
Microphone
Speaker
Phone
Combination
So
We're
Going
Back
Old
School
Again
For
The
Rest
Of
Season
Three
So
We
Are
Going
To
Finish
Out
Season
Three
Still
Using
This
Format
And
Everything
But
I'm
Going
To
Propose
A
Change
And
I
Want
You
Happen
So
If
You've
Got
Some
Feelings
On
It
I
Think
You
Should
Write
In
And
Let
Us
Know
Don't
Sit
Back
And
Quietly
You're
Running
A
Format
Change
That's
Opt
Out
Rather
Than
Opt
In
Yeah
There
You
Go
What
I'm
Looking
At
Is
Doing
Something
More
In
Line
With
The
Forums
Binary
Revolution
From
The
Very
Get
Go
Was
Not
Supposed
To
Just
Be
A
Website
It
Was
Not
Supposed
To
Just
Be
A
Forums
It
Was
Not
Supposed
To
Just
Be
A
Radio
Show
It
Was
Supposed
To
Be
A
Binary
Revolution
A
Change
In
The
Way
People
Think
A
Change
In
The
Way
The
Hacking
Scene
Works
A
Change
In
All
Of
These
Solo
Hackers
That
Are
Out
There
You
Know
I've
Had
Some
Good
Conversations
With
People
Lately
Very
interesting
Where
You
Know
This
Traditional
Mindset
Of
Hackers
Aren't
Social
Creatures
By
Nature
We
Don't
Work
Together
There
Is
No
Such
Thing
As
A
Hacking
Community
I
Know
That
But
I
Think
That
Is
The
Wrong
Way
For
Us
To
Exist
We
Shouldn't
Be
That
Way
We
Need
To
Work
Together
We
Need
To
Build
A
Community
And
That's
What
Binary
Revolution
Is
A
Revolution
Of
Taking
Back
Hacking
Making
It
Fun
Making
It
A
Friendly
Warm
Accommodating
Place
Where
People
Can
Learn
Share
Information
And
Again
I
Said
At
The
Top
Of
The
Show
Have
Fun
So
That's
What
Binary
Revolution
Is
About
So
Along
That
Lines
We're
Trying
To
Get
Everything
On
Binrev
Dot
Com
More
Geared
Towards
You
The
Community
You
The
Listeners
You
Not
Only
The
Listeners
We
Want
You
To
Be
On
The
Show
We
Want
You
To
Be
In
The
Forums
We
Want
You
To
Help
Make
This
Community
Something
To
Be
Proud
Of
Participate
Do
Produce
Things
Make
Content
So
The
Format
Change
That
I'm
Thinking
Of
Going
With
Is
Tying
This
More
Closely
To
The
Forums
There's
A
Lot
Of
Good
Information
In
The
Forums
Don't
Get
Me
Wrong
There's
A
Lot
Of
Crap
In
The
Forums
Too
No
One's
Denying
That
To
A
Certain
Extent
But
There's
A
Lot
Of
Good
Topics
In
The
Forums
There's
A
Lot
Of
Information
In
The
Forums
And
What
We
Do
On
The
Radio
Show
A lot
Is
We
Find
Ourselves
Repeating
That
So
I
Figured
It's
A
Natural
Thing
To
Tie
In
With
The
Forums
Where
We
Can
Talk
About
What's
Going
On
In
The
Forums
And
Go
Into
A
Little
Bit
More
Detail
A
Little
Bit
More
Debate
Some
Analysis
Some
Research
And
Make
This
More
Of
A
Community
Show
Right
Now
It's
Always
Been
Ratchet
Doing
The
Show
Myself
Doing
The
Show
DDP
Show
I
Don't
Want
This
To
Be
A
Community
Show
So
Look
For
Changes
In
The
Future
Where
We're
Going
To
Try
To
Go
In
That
Dire
I
Want
To
Have
People
From
The
Forums
On
The
Show
I
Want
To
Have
People
Who
Are
Listening
To
The
Show
Not
Just
Be
Listeners
Not
Sit
There
And
Consume
And
Be
Consumers
I
Want
People
To
Join
In
And
Make
The
Show
Good
Fun
Interesting
Positive
And
Make
It
Different
And
Enjoyable
For
Everybody
I
Want
People
To
Be
Involved
You
Come
In
Did
Freak
Factor
What's
That
Did
We
Try
This
With
Freak
Factor
Freak
Factor
Was
A
Social
Experiment
And
Was
Not
Meant
To
Which
Hopefully
We'll
Be
Getting
That
Again
To
Why
Did
You
Have
To
Bring
That
Up
And
Mess
Up
My
Soap
Box
Thing
I
Mean
I
Had
To
Do
It
You
Are
Such
A
Tom
Sometimes
Anyway
I
Guess
That's
All I
Really
Have
To
Say
About
That
So
We're
Going
To
Try
To
More
Closely
Align
The
Radio
Show
Each
Week
With
Content
That's
Being
Discussed
In
The
Forums
If
There's
A
Zero
Day
That's
Been
Released
Like
Today
We
Kind
Of
Talked
About
That
Just
XPL
That
Script
Kind
Of
Go
In
That
Direction
It'll
Still
Be
Good
Content
Will
Still
Be
On
Topic
Still
Going
To
Stay
Away
From
Politics
We're
Still
Going
To
Have
Fun
We're
Just
Going
To
Get
Away
From
Doing
The
Email
Every
Week
Or
The
Show
And
Tell
Every
Week
Which
Takes
Up
Too
Much
Of
The
Show
And
Again
I
Take
The
Blame
For
That
This
Week
And
Go
Straight
Into
Different
Topics
It
May
Be
One
Topic
If
There's
A
Big
Announcement
Like
I
Don't
Know
Remember
The
Paris
Hilton
Sidekick
That
Could
Have
Ended
Up
To
Be
A
Full
One
Hour
Show
Other
Times
It
May
Be
Five
Or
Six
Smaller
Topics
From
The
Forums
Whatever
Kind of
Wherever
The
Direction
Of
The
Show
Goes
And
The
People
That
Will
Be
On
The
Show
Hosting
And
Co-hosting
Are
Hopefully
People
That
We're
Participating
In
The
Forums
So
If
You
Want
To
Be
On
The
Show
Participate
In
The
Forums
If
You're
The
One
That's
Out
There
Bringing
Up
Good
Questions
Posting
Valid
Contents
Replies
Information
You're
Going
To
Be
The
People
That
We
Contact
To
Have
On
The
Show
So
And
Possibly
Regularly
On
The
Show
We're
Going
To
Kind of
Rotate
Hosts
Then
We
Might
Have
People
On
As
A
Host
For
A
Month
And
Then
Swap
People
In
And
Out
Have
Two
Three
Four
Hosts
On
At
A
Time
If
We
Can
That's
The
Direction
I
Want
To
Go
With
This
To
Take
It
Back
To
Being
A
Community
Project
Because
Bin
Rev
Is
What
You
Make
It
Whether
That
Be
The
Radio
Show
The
Forums
Or
Anything
Else
Bin
Rev
Is
What
You
Make
It
And
For
Those
Of
You
Who
Say
That
It's
Not
Good
Or
You
Don't
Like
This
About
It
Don't
Like
That
About
It
Stuff
Or
Get
To
Foe
That
Simple
Time
With
Horrible
Content
Let's
Wrap
Up
The
Show
Yeah
Exactly
And
I'm
Sure
Here's
How
You
Put
It
In
Perspective
Now
That
I'm
Back
And
I'll
Take
The
Show
Down
Another
Notch
People
Are
Going
To
Be
Begging
For
You
Back
On
The
Show
In
A
You
Blew
It
You
Blew
It
Okay
Sight
Of
The
Week
This
Week
I
Don't
Know
If
You
Kept
Doing
That
But
I'm
Doing
It
Again
So
Screw
You
The
Site
Of
The
Week
This
Week
Is
Techcentric
dot
Org
That's
T-E-C-H
C-E-N-T-R-I-C
Dot
Org
Very
Cool
Technology
Hacking
IPTV
Show
A la
The
Same
Vein
Of
Hack
TV
Infonomicon
TV
Packet
Sniffers
All
Great
Shows
That
We
Love
And
Support
And
I
Believe
This
One
Is
Going
To
Be
Another
One
These
Shouts
To
T-O-X-T
My
Homeboy
We've
Mentioned
Him
A
Million
Times
In
IRC
Tonight
But
T-O-X-T
He's
A
Really
Cool
Dude
He's
A
Bit
Abrupt
At
Sometimes
And
Takes
Some
Getting
Used
To
But
Man
That
Guy
Knows
A
Lot
Of
Stuff
So
He
Does
Know
A
Lot
Of
Stuff
I
Bailing
My
Tushy
Out
With
The
Whole
Recording
This
Because
My
Server
Is
Down
And
That's
Why
This
Is
Not
Super
Lead
Asterisk
Type
Thing
It's
Back
To
The
Old
School
Format
All
Right
Closing
Music
Tonight
Is
Glenn
Case
It
Is
Just
A
Friend
And
For
Natus
You
Know
I'm
Sure
You
Like
This
One
Anybody
Else
In
The
Old
School
This
Is
A
Remix
Of
The
Biz
Marquee
Song
Just
A
Friend
Glenn
Case
At
Glenn
Case
Dot
Song
Hold
Dot
Org
So
That's
It
Black
Ratchet
Thank
You
For
Being
On
This
Show
Or
Excuse
Me
Thank
You
For
Having
Me
On
Your
Last
Show
And
Thank
You
For
Doing
This
Season
Three
For
Most
Of
It
And
I
Guess
Do
I
Lead
It
Out
Or
How
Are
We
Going
To
Do
This
How
Are
We
Going
To
Close
Out
Um
I
Think
I'll
Do
It
One
Last
Time
This
Is
Your
Last
Show
Same
Hack
Time
Same
Hack
Channel
Have
You
Ever
Met
A
Girl
That
You
Tried
To
Date
But
You
To
Make
Love
She
Wanted
You
To
Wait
Let
You
A
Story
Of
My
Situation
I
Was
Talking
To
This
Girl
From
The
U.S.
Nation
The
Way
That
I
Met
Her
Was
A
Concert
She
Had
Long
Hair
And
A
Short
Bings
I
Just
Got
On
Stage
Dripping
For
With
Sweat
I
Was
Walking
Through
The
Crowd
And
Guess
Who
I
Met
I
Whispered
In
A
Ear
Come
To
The
Picture
Beats
So
I
Can
Ask
You
Some
Questions
To
See
If
You're
Under
Proof
I
Asked
Her
Name
She
Said
Blah
She
Do
You
Have
A
Man
She
Tried
To
Pretend
She
Said
No
I
Don't
I
Only
Have
A
Friend
You
Got
What
I
Need
But
You
Say
He's
Just
A
Friend
But
You
Say
He's
Just
A
Friend
Oh
Baby
You
Got
What
I
Need
But
You
Say
He's
Just
A
Friend
But
You
Say
He's
Just
A
Friend
Oh
Baby
You
Got
What
I
Need
But
You
Say
He's
Just
A
Friend
But
You
Say
He's
Just
A
Friend
So
I
Took
A
Long
Word
For
It
At
This
Time
About
Just
Having
A
Friend
Couldn't
Be
No
Crime
Cause
I
Have
Friends
And
That's
A
Fact
Like
Hobbit
Euclidies
Mo
Ken
And
Jack
Forget
About
That
Let's
Go
Into
The
Story
About
A
Girl
That
Adore
Me
So
We
Started
Talking
Getting
Familiar
Spending
A
Lot
Of
Time
So
We
Can
Build
A
Relationship
Or
Some
Understanding
How
It's
Gonna
Be
In
The
Future
We
Was
Planning
Everything
Sounded
So
Dandy
And
Sweet
I
Had
No
Idea
I
Was
In
For
A
Treat
After
This
Was
Established
Everything
Was
Cool
The
Tour
Was
Over
And
She
Went
Back
To
School
I
Called
Her
Every
Day
To
See
How
She
Was
Doing
Every
Time
That
I
Called
Her
It
Seems
Something
Was
Grooming
I
Called
Her
Up
I
Picked
Up
And
Then
I
Called
Again
I
Said
Yo
Who
Was
That
Mr.
Oh
He's
Just
A
Friend
You
Got
What
I
Need
But
You
Say
He's
Just
A
Friend
But
You
Say
He's
Just
A
Friend
Oh
Baby
You
Got
What
I
Need
But
You
Say
He's
Just
A
Friend
But
You
Say
He's
Just
A
Friend
Oh
Baby
You
Got
What
I
Need
But
You
Say
He's
Just
A
Friend
But
You
Say
He's
Just
A
Friend
So
I
Came
To
College
On
A
Surprise
Visit
To
See
My
Girl
That
Was
So
Exquisite
It
Was
A
School
Day
I
Knew
She
Was
There
The
First
Semester
Of
The
School
Year
I
Went
To
Ask
Where
Was
The
Door
The
Sky
He
Told
Me
Where
It
Was
And
I
Was
On
My
Way
To
See
My
Baby
Doll
I
Was
Happy
To
Say
I
Arrived
In
Front
Of
The
Dormitory
Yo
Could
You
Tell
Me
Where
Is
Door
Three
They
Showed
Me
Where
It
Was
For
The
Moment
I
Didn't
Know
That
I
Was
In
Such
An
Event
So
I
Came
To
The
Room
And
I
Open
The
Door
Oh
Snap
Guess
What
You
Who
Roller
Says
She
Only
Has
A
Friend
True
And
Doing
Joy
Bare
As
On