This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers, to the hackers and the crackers.
I see in binary, I speak source code, step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you
and a fag pwned, in your digital stance getting firewalled ho, cause I'm riding the net in
my six-fold, I was a dick with my 56, now with my cable I'm able to get that stable,
on the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo, on the digital highway, my name is Neo and
I'm a hero, in a flash, I'll screw you on burning dreamcast, you need some ISO, let me through
my hard drive rifle, our exchange you could never stifle, in a digital hug, you just caught
the love bug, I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z, your CG, it's
all gonna be free, whether we take it by force or we take it nicely, you feel that rattling
your phones, when I tell you we just hacked out Jones, and NASDAQ leaves your fight on
your back, cause I am he who loves to hack and crack, cause I am he who loves to hack and
crack, this is dedicated to the hackers and the crackers, serial codes, source codes, ISOs,
RANS, SIFS, SIFS, this is dedicated to the hackers and crack, penis, welcome to Binary Revolution
Radio episode number 155, I am StankDawg and joining me this week on this Independence Day
episode of Binary Revolution Radio is the one, the only, droops on the phone with us, penis,
welcome to the next to the last episode of season 3 of Binary Revolution Radio, episode
155, 156, will be, if my math is right here, will be the last episode of season 3, 52 weeks
in a year, times 3, so I think that should work out right, even my country math will come close
anyway, you just gotta add the twos, I'm not sure what we're gonna do, quite honestly, and some
people read the forums and will also know that we're gonna be doing the first episode of season 4,
kind of left a little teaser here the last couple episodes about that, there will be at least an
episode 1 of season 4, how's that for a teaser, and we will be presenting that first episode of
season 4 in front of a live studio audience at Hope No. 6 in New York City later this month, so
the timing is a little bit off, admittedly, so we're going to do 155 today, and it really is July 4th,
we're cutting this awfully close, and next week will be 156, and we're gonna have a week where
we're gonna have to figure out what we're going to do, we purposely put it off an extra week to
coincide with Hope, so maybe we'll do episode 2 of season 4 before we do episode 1 of season 4 at Hope,
I don't know what we're gonna do, maybe we'll just play some porn music for the entire hour next,
in that week, you could just play like stupid telephone recordings, yeah, hasn't that been done
to death, maybe we'll revive Freak Factor, oh no, damn it, did I say that out loud, crap,
alright, people are gonna be on me about that one, anyway, so this episode we're gonna record,
I don't know what kind of facilities they're gonna give us at Hope, if they're gonna be able to
provide us with the recording of this so that we can stream it directly after, but we are planning
on streaming it in our regular Tuesday time slot, for those of you who can't make it to
New York City for the 6th Hope, or Hope number 6, or 666, whatever it's called, um, for those
of you who can't make it, we're gonna try to air it in our regular Tuesday time slot, the
two days delayed live in front of a studio audience episode, so hopefully we can get the recording
from them quickly enough to do that, otherwise, I don't know what we're gonna do there either,
so, penis, penis, alright, so this week, however, we are going to move on with the July 4th Independence
Day special, Droops and I, along with some other special guests, um, can we call it the July 4th
celebration? Um, we can, sure, we can celebrate, sweet, because I'm celebrating myself, I know you
are, why don't you tell the audience exactly how you're celebrating? Well, I am, uh, in a place
where there is no interweb, and there's no cell phone service, and when I say no interweb,
I mean, none other than that dial-up crap. Uh-huh. And I'm, uh, drinking.
Ha-ha, right, there, there's, there's the party. There's the party. Well, uh, actually, that is
very appropriate for this episode of the show, because being Independence Day, I thought that
it might be a good topic to talk about today, Independence from Technology.
Ooh.
Well, and, yeah, I know, on a hacking show, Independence from Technology.
That's not the topic you told me we were talking about.
Penis?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, I changed my mind at the last minute.
No, I think that's the topic you wanted to talk about.
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha, like them big, big, and juicy.
Ha-ha-ha-ha, man.
All right. Well, let's start raising property values again, shall we? Let's see. Yeah, a hacking show talking about independence from technology. It seems kind of – what's the word there? Not correct. They don't seem to go together.
So, yes and no. We're going to talk about just not having all your eggs in one basket. The old saying, the old cliche goes, not having too much dependence on any one technology or one thing or one form of connectivity, et cetera, et cetera.
There's a whole lot more than just the global interweb and your cable modem, and a lot of people are sitting at home right now, and they really think that that's the greatest thing in the world, but what happens when you lose that?
So we're going to talk about some things along those lines for this episode and talk about alternative forms of technology and how we should at least be aware of them if we don't actually have them in use as backup plans in your day-to-day hacking or non-hacking activities.
So one of the first things I wanted to talk about is something Droops just kind of touched on. He's out in the sticks away from his beloved – well, you had DSL, right?
Yes, sir.
Yes, DSL, whereas I have the cable modem. Obviously, those are two of the more popular forms of connectivity, especially in the hacking circles where we just have to have speed. How old am I?
You're like the cable modem.
The cable modem? Why?
It's like I have the television.
Oh, well –
No, no, no. It's just a cable modem.
A cable modem. What did I say? The cable modem?
Yes.
Well, it is. It's the only one in existence.
It's like the moving pictures.
It's the only cable modem ever created, and I have it.
Singular.
They got the air conditioning over there.
You can have it when you pry it out of my cold, dead fingers, too.
But that being said, I also have a modem.
I always keep a modem around, specifically an external 56K modem, and I also have a good old-fashioned 9600-baud modem just in case I can't get connectivity to a 56K, which that, I have to admit, is pretty rare these days.
Most of the phone company and most of the ISPs are at least using 56K.
So, just because you have cable modem and DSL, et cetera, et cetera – and actually, this is probably a little bit off-topic, but the difference is between a cable modem and DSL, because I've had both.
And quite frankly, I was happy with either one to a certain extent, but the cable modem generally gives you a little bit more bandwidth.
How much bandwidth do you get on your DSL?
Six down.
You get six, and I get – actually, they just want mine to eight, supposedly.
Of course, I don't actually get eight.
Mine's usually like five and a half.
Yeah, that's about what mine is, actually.
So, pretty similar.
The difference that really on my end that I like is the cable modem allows me to get away from the phone company, Bell South.
Yes, I would really enjoy that myself.
Exactly.
So, to get the DSL line, you actually have to have a – you have to have phone service with the phone company to get a DSL line.
You can't get DSL only.
I think they didn't Quest unbundle theirs.
I don't know.
I'm not in Quest territory.
I'm not certain.
I know Bell South never will.
Oh, no.
Not Bell South.
I hate those fuckers.
Yep.
We visited the Batman building down there in – where was it?
Nashville?
Urinated on it.
Yeah, buddy.
Penis.
Not in it, not beside it, but just on it.
On it.
Like from the top?
Were you like suspended by a helicopter or what?
No, just from the side.
Just from the side.
Yeah, I think we all took turns on that one, didn't we?
I think it was like a whole smorgasbord of urine.
But anyway, stop lowering property values here, man.
What the hell?
All right.
Well, there are, like I said, instances –
If it's penis, it's got to be good.
There you go.
There are instances where your cable is going to go down.
Cable is certainly not the most reliable thing in the world.
And your cable goes down and your DSL goes down.
A lot of people are just SOL.
I mean, for those of you listening right now, do you fall into those circumstances?
Do you have a backup plan to get internet access?
I do, I do, I do.
If it goes out?
Okay, well, one form of it is a cell phone with a data plan or even without a data plan, truthfully.
Now, do you have a data plan on your cell phone there, Droopy Dog?
No, sir, I sure do not.
Do you have it?
Does your phone support it even?
No.
Yeah, okay.
So you're a little different there.
My phone still has an antenna that comes out of it.
Well, so it's like – so you have one of those phones that actually still gives you cancer of the brain.
Yes, I actually enjoy the cancer of the brain.
It upsets the lung cancer.
That's why you drink so much.
Yeah.
And liver cancer.
Everybody thinks you're a total alcoholic.
You know that, right?
You know I'm not.
I know you're not.
This is like my eighth or ninth drink today.
Oh, well, that's nothing, you know.
I'm on vacation.
That's normal, isn't it?
Oh, man.
Well –
And it's not like I'm drinking hard liquor.
What are you drinking?
I'm drinking a mimosa, which is champagne and orange juice.
Oh, me.
It's pretty much the gayest drink I could find.
Wow.
Wow, really?
Well, I'm avoiding a big segue right now, so I'm going to get back on topic.
Because our audience wants to hear tech talk, not your gay drinking stories.
Let's talk about – oh, I was saying about cell phones having data plan.
Now, I have an unlimited data plan on my PDA phone, which I find very handy.
But even if you don't, the plan I had before this, it was a phone that did not have – you know, it didn't have a whole lot of fancy features, but it did have a little web browser.
And I could still browse the interweb, and I got charged per minute – or excuse me, per megabyte for downloaded stuff.
So I had that option, and it was nice to always know that if there was an emergency, like I needed to get – check email or something that I was expecting from somebody and my power was out or whatever the case may be.
If the cable was down, I always had that option, even if I didn't have an unlimited data plan at the time.
So that is one form.
Another form, obviously, is – or driving.
You know, if your neighbors – if your cable may be down, your neighbors might have a DSL line that they're sharing, willingly or otherwise.
Of course, if they're not willingly sharing it, we're not telling anyone to do anything, of course.
But I can't say that that's not a handy thing to have available.
Now, where you're at, you can't do – you don't have either one of those options, do you?
I sure do not.
But you do have dial-up as an option.
Well, I tell you, there's something that we're not talking about.
All right.
What's that?
And a lot of your cable providers or your DSL providers will give you a dial-up account that you're allowed to use, like, an hour a month.
Right, yeah.
Or for something.
And for when you travel, because you're still paying for Internet.
Right.
And you can't use your DSL when you're in a hotel, you know, that doesn't have Internet, which is hard to find.
Right.
But you still have that – you know, people don't realize they have a dial-up account that they can use.
Well, yeah, and a lot of people don't even realize with their DSL setup or whatever, they do create you a username and account.
It's just that it's very invisible because it's that whole always-on technology.
But technically, there is username and password going through there to authorize your access.
So that same thing will certainly get you dial-up access.
Very, very handy.
That's a good point, Droopy.
You need to keep drinking.
You're coming up with some good stuff there.
I had a choir a while back that was very concerned about that.
Yeah.
And I did some research into it, but I can't remember who it was any good.
But the cable provider also had a dial-up account.
Yeah.
I know I had it with the DSL.
I don't know that I have it with the cable.
I don't think they have anything like that because they're not really in that business.
But I digress.
What about also – weren't we talking about WiMAX earlier?
We certainly were talking about WiMAX.
And where I am in is a big valley.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, it's a lake and the hills around it.
Right.
And you could set up WiMAX in theory.
I don't think they've standardized it yet.
But, like, it would serve this little area.
And I had a really interesting conversation with Jason Scott a while back about WiMAX.
And, as you know, he's really into BBSs and such like that.
Right.
And he feels that when WiMAX comes out and it's affordable for people like me to set up WiMAX in my town, I can blanket my town with a Wi-Fi signal.
And it will be more like the old local BBSs because we could have an area of the whole town and just our little town to connect to.
That would be pretty cool.
And that would be really cool.
That would be pretty cool.
Now, I'm not sure that I've ever heard anyone use interesting conversation and Jason Scott in the same sentence before.
I'm just kidding, Jason.
I'm just kidding.
Calm down.
Go check out Jason Scott and Seal doing a presentation at Hope also in New York City this upcoming week.
Or, excuse me, two weeks?
Two weeks?
Three weeks?
I'm not going.
Yeah, you suck.
Why aren't you going?
I fired my boss and now I have to step up to the job.
You fired your boss?
Something's backwards with that one.
Well, see, the cool thing is I owned him.
Okay, do you want to go into this on the radio?
I owned the software and I was paying for the co-location.
And when he and I had a disagreement, I just turned the box off.
And then he had no product at all.
And he got a little upset.
A little?
Yeah.
So we fired him.
Somehow this turned into the show and tell portion of the show.
I'm not sure how.
I'm not sure how we got there.
I think it's the mimosa.
I think, yeah.
I think you're drinking and all the penis talk has gotten us kind of a little bit loopy here.
So let's go back on topic for a little bit here, if we may.
If we can there, Mr. Dog.
Certainly, sir.
What else did I want to talk about?
Oh, actually, and kind of speaking of business-related things, data backup.
A lot of people have one computer, one computer machine, and possibly only one hard drive in it.
And that is very dangerous, especially if you've got all your important personal data on one hard drive.
Businesses, obviously, it's much more important to them.
They've got all their dating, all their data, all their accounting information, et cetera, et cetera.
Or even their dating information could be there.
All on one system.
And they usually put a little bit more emphasis on backing data up.
But for personal needs as well, it's very important to have some data redundancy.
Copying your data, even if it's just your My Documents or your personal, like, for example, I don't know, tax.
Anybody uses Quicken or TurboTax or something like that, and that's where all of your financial data is?
That's all you're doing?
Are you backing that up?
Are you dependent on one hard drive?
And if it dies, you're SOL?
Well, that's not a good idea.
So I would say burn that off to CD every once in a while.
Put in a second hard drive and back it up.
Mirror it, whatever you want to do.
Hard drives are so cheap nowadays.
Off-site backup.
Or off-site backup.
Hell, even upload it to a, if you have a website.
You know, you can upload it to a website, and you can get websites cheap out there.
Encrypt it, of course, if it's really private, personal data.
Well, I don't encrypt it.
I'm using a security through obscurity.
I keep everything at infanomicon.org slash droopstocks.
Is that D-O-C-S?
Yes.
Okay, all lowercase?
Yeah.
Okay, got it.
Yeah, nobody will ever figure that one out.
Now you should put something there as a joke.
What are you talking about?
You should put, like, a bunch of, like, your receipts for all of your lap dances or something from last year's taxes on there.
Yeah, I don't keep my lap dance receipts, actually.
Oh, okay.
Wow.
Back on topic there, buddy.
There you go.
All right.
So, anyway, what would you do if you lost that information?
How much?
What about homework or other information that you can't replace?
Work for work, source code or something that you're working on?
I don't know.
It could be anything.
Make sure that you back that up.
So, that being said, let's move on to something else besides connectivity.
Actually, kind of related to connectivity.
I mentioned kind of earlier about cable modem, DSL, and how your cable, cable's not the most reliable thing in the world.
And, if you are like me and you have a cable modem and you're using a VoIP service for your primary phone system, you might be in a little bit of trouble.
And, that's something our good friend Decoder has always talked and taught us about.
So, why don't we see what Decoder has to say on that topic?
VoIP or Voice over IP or Voice over TV.
Voice over TV, more specifically.
More Voice over TV because along the concept or the idea of being too dependent on any one company or one type of connectivity like we were just talking about, you know, what about being too dependent on your cable company to provide your cable modem or your DSL, true, anything, your phone company to provide your DSL or whatever high speed it is if you're using VoIP because, basically, you have one point of failure.
You lose your cable, you lose your phone.
Or your power.
Or your power, actually, that's absolutely right.
Which, here in Florida, we have that problem a lot.
Electrical storms, hurricanes, bad weather, stuff like that, very common down here.
Godzillas.
Well, no, I think that's Tokyo, but, okay.
Anything near the water has Godzillas.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, Godzillas, plural.
I mean, they come out of the water, like, all the time.
That's what I'm saying, yeah.
Right.
So, actually, and that's just why we have you on, because I know you're a big proponent of good old-fashioned copper.
Yeah, well, you know, because it, I don't know, like, works.
Yeah, well, it works because, again, it's been in place for years and years and years.
The infrastructure exists, is reliable, and it's been around for so long.
But, you know, you still have the same, you know, potential for problem.
I mean, if you do have a hurricane or earthquake or Godzilla's attack.
You know, let me tell you something, like, the amount of times that a widespread area of telephone service has gone out in, like, the past, like, I don't know, fucking, let's just say 20 years.
You're right.
It's not that often.
Compared to how many times, like, your cell phone drops a call.
Compared to how many times the power has gone out for more than, like, a few hours.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, come on.
Well, if the, your local power can go out, but your phones still work, correct?
Yeah, well, of course, because the CO has its own fucking generator.
Exactly.
But what I'm saying is, like, I can't remember the last time that landline service was interrupted in my area.
I can't remember, and I live in New York, obviously.
And I can't remember the last time it was interrupted.
Oh, yeah, wait, I can't.
9-11.
That's it.
Right, well, and, you know, that's basically what I'm getting at is, even if the power goes
out, your cable modem goes out, your phone company, I don't, would your DSL go out?
I don't know.
You know, I don't, I don't use DSL because it's fucking stupid.
Well, yeah, that, honestly, it's a whole different topic.
I think I've ranted about that before.
If you have DSL and you're using VoIP, you're not really getting that much benefit.
The whole, the big, big benefit of using VoIP is when you leave the phone company completely.
Then you're saving a lot of money.
If you're using DSL, if you're using DSL, at least down here, you're still required to
maintain a phone line, bare minimum phone line, which is still going to cost you 20-something
dollars a month.
That's what I was just going to say.
It's ridiculous.
Up here with Verizon, you can't have DSL unless you have a phone line with them.
All right, so the big benefit is when you switch over to cable modem and...
Get the fuck rid of the phone company?
Exactly, completely.
Now, however, however, for this topic of the show today and reducing your dependence on
that, well, I'm not going to say, you know, I don't want people to tell people that they
should maintain a landline or a copper line with their phone company, which a lot of them
are switching over to VoIP, so be careful that when you get a phone that you're not getting
one of their VoIP plans.
Exactly.
You know, be careful about that.
But, exactly what you said earlier is what I wanted to focus on is the infrastructure
is there, and that infrastructure meaning not only the cables that are pulled everywhere,
but, yes, even if the power goes out.
Like, if the power goes out in this neighborhood, you know, if somebody hits a pole out in the
front of the whole neighborhood and my phone will still work because there's still power
at the CO.
Even if the power goes out along like when the last time there was a major blackout, which
was the whole fucking Northeast and a lot of the, a little bit of the Midwest was out.
Right.
Fuck with that, O2.
Right.
The next step is if the actual CO loses power.
Well, no, when that thing was going on, it was out for almost a day and the phone worked
all the time.
But, because?
Because it's fucking dope.
Because the CO has its own generator.
Exactly, exactly, and that's what I'm saying.
So, you always have that, that redundancy built in there.
Unless you live in, unless you live in a stick somewhere and you have your own generator
that isn't on the grid.
Well, yeah, that's a whole topic for, for later on in the show, possibly.
So, yeah, don't, you don't, you're not necessarily, it's not that you have to have, or am I saying
that you should get a copper line, although Dakota would probably say that?
Well, you don't, you don't have to have it with the, with the incumbent telephone company.
You could always, you know, get a, an alternate provider for your copper line.
Again, if you live out in certain places, you might not have any alternate providers
either.
Oh, you're just shit in luck, then, and nobody cares.
Yeah.
Move.
It's your own fault for living there.
Yeah, it's your own fault for living in fucking Timbuktu or West Bobblefock or wherever
the fuck you live.
Exactly.
So, yeah, I mean, it, then that's, that's just it.
But have a plan in place.
Know the difference between VoIP and copper, and, I mean, make the decision.
Like, Decoder, I think, has made it very public that he prefers the copper and goes
with the copper line for the house.
You're not a VoIP guy, right?
Nah, you know, VoIP has its, has its uses.
It's definitely fun to play with.
It's nice to have.
But, you know, as far as depending on something, like, I would, I would probably be more likely
to say that, that you can depend on your copper line all the time.
Like, for all intents and purposes, it would go out, like, so infrequently, like, once
every ten fucking years or something.
Right.
You might as well consider that 100%, you know?
Well, and that's, that's exactly, I'm glad you used the word dependent for our Independence
Day show, is that, yes, you're, you're not going to be so dependent on something that
crashes much more frequently.
I mean, VoIP goes out much more frequently than the copper line.
No doubt about that.
And I know on the, on the show and in the past, um, we've always spoken about the virtues
of VoIP, and it is great as far as saving money, but there are costs associated with
that.
And in the, in the...
Well, nobody's saying that you have to have the fucking super deluxe package on your copper
line.
You can get, like, the lifeline service, you know?
You can get whatever you fucking want, but the point is, it'll be there.
Right.
If you need it.
You know, and depending on where you live, you might fucking need it.
I mean, if you have a couple of pay phones, like, outside your house, if those still exist,
I'm not really sure if they're still around, but, uh, if you have those, I mean, that right
there, you may not need your own, like, personal line, because there's the phone if you need
it.
Well, that's, that's a perfect, uh, segue, because I know you don't have the notes, I
didn't send them to you, but next thing on my list was that, yes, you don't have to
have a second phone line of your own in place, just a plan in case something does happen,
and one of those things to keep in mind is, know where the local pay phones are.
Yeah, you gotta know, I mean, it's just one of those things, if you really, if you, if
there's gonna be a point where you really need a phone to know that there's a few pay
phones, like, two blocks away from you, and know which ones work and which ones don't
might save you in, like, an emergency situation, you know?
Yeah, absolutely, and, and, and all of you listening right now, very seriously, if you don't know
where the closest pay phone is, and yes, we've, we've definitely talked about, you
know, how they've been disappearing, and how their phone companies are pulling them
up all over the place, it's still, know where the closest pay phones are, so that if there
is some sort of emergency, or if you do need to communicate with people, that you do know
at least where they are, and have, and have some quarters handy, right?
And test, well, or, or, or a, uh, prepaid calling card, and test them.
Good point.
Make sure they fucking work.
That is, you know what, I didn't think about that, you're a smart son of a bitch, you know
that?
Well, because most of the people in my area, like, a lot of them, uh, a lot of them don't
work, you know?
Yeah.
And especially if they're cocots, make sure, not only make sure that the thing has a dial
tone and you can dial, but make sure people can hear you on the other end, and shit like
that.
Yep, have that calling card handy, that will definitely, definitely come into play.
Yeah, because a lot of times, they might, the phone might work, it might do everything
except for, except, uh, use it except twice, except for take your money.
Yeah.
That might become a problem.
And, you know, we could go down a whole nother branch of discussion here, but we won't about
which calling cards are better, and the differences, and some of them expire, so be careful, but...
Oh, well, you know, a lot of times, you gotta watch out, at least for the, uh, like the
little fucking, um, I use a lot of, uh, IDP phone cards, and like the local ones that
have local access numbers, and 800 access, but they want you to use a local access, and
a lot of times, people don't know that those have surcharges on them, like, if I use it
today to call you, I talk to you for five minutes, and I put the thing in my pocket for
a week, when I pull it out a week later, it might have had, like, a surcharge tacked on
it every day, and have no money on it.
Yeah, so, check out...
So, I would, my suggestion is to buy the smallest denomination possible, and just have a fucking,
like, brand new one in your pocket.
For, yeah, for that exact reason, for emergency use.
Yeah, an unused one.
Don't use it if you're gonna use it for emergency, and yeah, some of them have expiration dates
you want to see when the thing actually expires.
Well, and go on to, you know, that's when you go to forums.binrev.com, and check out
the old school freaking forum, that's exactly the kind of discussion, among a lot of other
stuff that goes on there, and, you know, do some searching, and if you don't find your
answer, post and discuss, you know, some of the calling cars, and the differences, and
your experiences with them.
Yeah, some dickhead will fucking reply and tell you what to do.
Yeah, probably.
Some jerk.
Some jerk name.
Yeah, who knows.
Decoder, something like that, I don't know.
I don't post on your fucking forum, son.
Oh, shut up, you do, too.
I just saw you post the other day, you liar.
I did not.
What are you talking about?
Well, yeah, and you know what?
Actually, I should pimp for a second.
I should pimp out Yapple, too, the payphone list, so you can always look at them.
Yeah, there you go.
But know your, go out and find your own local payphones and know where they exist.
Don't depend on Yapple, because it's user-contributed, and if nobody in your area has contributed
those payphones, obviously that's not much help for you.
So go find your local ones, A, for the sake of knowing that they're there, and B, go home
and put them in Yapple.
You lazy bastards.
And make sure they fucking work.
Yeah, yeah.
And actually, you know what?
And another kind of, this is a good excuse to me, or a good reason, an excellent use of
freaking skills in general.
I mean, baseball boxing and having, you know, being able to do things and understand and
know how the phone system works, so that if something does happen inside of your house
or your apartment complex.
Every fucking day, you'd be a big goddamn hero.
Yeah.
There you go.
Yeah.
Super freak.
That's what you'd be.
That's what you would.
Super freak.
Yeah, actually.
Don't sing, please.
Everybody loves it when I sing.
Yeah, well, they're just humoring you or trying to make you feel good about yourself.
Super freak.
Okay.
All right.
So, actually, I mentioned earlier about the hurricanes in Florida.
Actually, I went through several hurricanes.
For the last two years have been kind of busy hurricanes, especially last year.
I got hit with three of them pretty hard.
Lost power every time.
Lost phone, interweb, et cetera, et cetera.
I think the whole interweb got knocked out somehow, but maybe it was just me.
But I was still, you know, I was still able to communicate and function with people.
Even, and the cell phone towers got knocked out as well.
I wasn't able to use my cell phone, which we kind of, I don't think we really.
Don't expect your cell phone to work in an emergency, because trust me, it'll be, it's
the 9-11 period.
What will happen is, since everybody has a cell phone in their pocket, if it's something
even, like, ridiculously small, like, oh my God, it's raining, fucking, everybody and
their fucking mother is going to pick up the cell phone, you know, to say, oh, goddammit,
it's fucking raining.
Make sure you close the windows on the fucking car or fucking whatever.
And it's just going to be clogged up, and nobody's going to be able to make a
other fucking call, because believe me, when, as I was talking about that power outage
in 2002, the big fucking power outage they had, the big blackout, cell phones were fucking
no good.
I called my man on his cell, and I just couldn't fucking get through to him.
I had to actually get out of my house, walk down the block to his fucking house, and be
like, yo, dude, your cell phone doesn't fucking work.
Well, I guess I assumed it was public knowledge, but maybe we should kind of mention that the
cell phone towers, the cell phone companies, the way their system is designed is not to
handle, it's designed on an aggregate thought, whereas they're assuming that X number of people
could be using this system at any given time, an average number of people, and they know that
there are peak times and non-peak times, which is how they design their plans, but they do
not have, in the neighborhood, they can't use the tower, it's like a run on a bank.
Right, they're not designed, they have no capabilities, they do not have the capacity, at any point in
time, if everybody in a certain vicinity used their phone at the same time, which is exactly
what you said, the 9-11 theory, or any type of emergency, they do not have the capacity.
They don't target for the maximum number of users, they target for an aggregate, an average
number of users.
Unless you have one of those GETS overrides on your cell phone, which I doubt anybody
listening to this has, but it goes under the same theory as GETS, which is the government
emergency telecommunication system, the 710 area code.
They do that for cell phones too, I'm not exactly 100% sure, right at this very second,
sitting in my bed naked, how it works.
I haven't read about it for quite some time, and I wasn't really all that fucking enthralled
with it, but it does like, when you make the fucking phone call, somehow the cell power
knows that you're some important motherfucker, and it'll kick other people off to make your
call.
The one thing I do remember about it was a person, one of my friends, who I guess for
right now should remain nameless, did once a couple of years ago inform me about a trick
with Nextel, which I'm not sure if it still works, but something about there being an emergency
fucking bullshit thing inside your phone that you can reset, and that can give you power
to knock people off the fucking tower if your tower's too busy.
I don't know if that person ever listens to this and they know what I'm talking about,
they know who they are.
Maybe they'll post something about it in the forum, maybe they'll find out if it still
works.
I know they don't use Nextel anymore, so who knows if they're really up on that, but there
was a thing with Nextel where you could make yourself a priority call.
Hmm, that would be a very interesting information, very useful.
Yeah, but I'm not going to give any of it up right now because, you know, I forget most
of it.
Ah, there you go.
Yep.
Well, like I was saying, though, the hurricanes in Florida, for example, you know, I lost my
cell phone, cell towers were all out, the regular old POTS lines, of course I didn't
have one at the time, but my cable went out and my power went out anyway.
So, that was SOL, and most people would be, which is exactly what the theme of this show
is, the independence.
Do you have alternate, because, I mean, let's be honest here, the power going out and or
the cable going out, both are not exactly rare occurrences.
They're really not.
So, why are so many of us, yeah, why are so many people not really prepared and don't
know what to do?
And it's like, oh no, the power's out, what do we do?
You know, in Florida, it's a little bit more, people are a little bit more prepared because
it happens so commonly, but for anyone listening who's not in Florida, you should always have
some plans in place.
For example, I had my little hand scanner, and I was able to listen to ham radio or emergency,
the emergency broadcast and stuff, the weathers and stuff like that, so I was still able to
get information.
I was still able to, communicate is a really, probably the poor word to use because communicate
in first two way.
I do not have a way to actually broadcast or send out information, but I was able to
get and listen in on information, so I wasn't sitting there with my thumb up my ass waiting
and wondering what the hell's going on and what's happening next, is anybody restoring
power, how bad is the hurricane, et cetera, et cetera.
So, I have some things like that.
My lack of power, phone, internet, prawn, all that good stuff did not stop me from actually
functioning and still having information and staying calm and knowing exactly what was going
on, whereas a lot of people were sitting in the dark, huddled in the corner, wondering
what the hell's going on, and some people really do, crying.
Yeah, but don't forget, as far as cell phones, even if you know the power's out and the cell
tower is able to let you make a call, like, what the fuck are you going to do when your
battery runs out?
Well, I'll tell you what I did, here's my tip, went out and charged it in the car.
Always have a car charger as your backup.
Yeah, and I was going to say, yeah, you could charge it in the car, but what about motherfuckers
who don't have cars?
Well, and more to the point, I mean, now you're talking about reliance on something else.
You're not relying on electricity, you're relying on gasoline.
You know, that's a whole other topic that's not really, I think that's probably branching
off too much, but, you know, or a lot of people also will have a generator, a small generator
in their house to run, you know, just the bare minimum, just run the basic stuff at the
house.
Well, I don't know about where you live, but where I live, nobody has any of that shit.
Well, in Florida, it's a little bit more common.
Yeah, most majority of people, of course, still do not.
But, you know, it's something to think of.
It's, you know, it's a few hundred bucks, you put one out in the garage, you have it
on hand in case of emergency, and I mean, some people in Florida will fire up the generator
and use it as an excuse to have a party.
They'll fire up the generator and some lights, they'll sit there and drink.
Oh, yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
You know, so, yeah, have a generator of your own.
As far as charging your cell phone, there's always those little things they sell, like
CompUSA, that charges your fucking battery, like they're used for, I don't know, if you
go hiking and shit like that, or you're keeping your car for an emergency.
Right.
There used to be like a hand crank thing, if you remember that.
Yeah, they have emergency batteries, even, that are disposable, one-time use.
Once the charge is out, you can throw them away, which seems kind of like a stupid idea
until you think about, you know, would that be your emergency, would that be for your backup,
just like, you know, I would also recommend to anybody, I know this is probably common sense,
but I always have a drawer full of good, up-to-date, unused batteries.
Yeah, that too, batteries.
Good, up-to-date, used dildos.
Unused batteries for the dildos, see?
You don't want to be caught, you don't want to be caught without battery power.
I guess you're kind of a lightweight, because my vibrator plugs in to the wall.
Your vibrator has a kickstart, what are you talking about?
My vibrator runs on a generator.
Your vibrator's got a kickstart and it's powered by ethanol.
Nice.
Anyway, all right, well, I think, you know, since I mentioned ham radio,
I think I should probably get Jaga on the phone and talk about some ham radio stuff,
because that's something else that, again, I found is always going on,
it's always information being transmitted, and you can sit and listen in on it.
You know, even without broadcasting, like I said, just listening will get you a lot of information.
So, Decoder?
Monitoring.
Thank you for being on the show, my friend,
and I will see you in a couple weeks in New York City.
Can I give a shout-out?
Absolutely.
I want to give a shout-out to my man, Run DM Nate.
A.K.A. Jam Master Nate.
Got a shout-out, De La Nate.
Yeah, De La Nate, Grandmaster Nate.
All right.
That's my man right there.
All right.
I call him Nate LaRock.
Your shots are duly noted, and let's talk to Jaga.
I thought the best person to get on the show to talk about ham radio is my good friend Jaga,
A.K.A. Lynn, calling in from the 404 tonight.
Welcome to the show.
Good evening.
And we are going to talk about ham radio a little bit,
since I kind of mentioned it earlier about how, you know,
down here in Florida we have hurricanes and how I used it to listen to the emergency frequencies and such
and how ham radio was still active even though cell towers and phone company,
electricity in general was gone, cable, et cetera, et cetera.
So, I mean, ham radio has been around and been stable for a long time, right?
Well, I mean, you're talking about something that goes back really to before BFCC.
I mean, you're talking about something that goes back to the experimenters before you're talking about broadcasters,
before radio stations, TV even.
So, you're talking about something that has a very long history of experimentation and, you know,
if you will, hacking, so to speak.
I mean, you know, there were people that were in their garage building spark gap generators,
that just blasted radio on all kinds of frequencies and they talked to each other from street to street,
you know, just a few years after Marconi figured out radio in general.
And that's ironic that you mentioned the FCC because how much limitations and how they came about because of all this kind of stuff.
So, that's a topic for another time, though, I think.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, that's a very in-depth conversation in and of itself.
But just in general, to give you an idea of history, you're talking about something that goes back, you know,
to the beginning of the last century.
Well, obviously before the global interweb.
Yeah, just a little bit.
I mean, I was even doing ham radio before I had even heard of the global internet, interweb, or whatever you want to call it.
I mean, you know, I mean, I got involved with it in the mid-80s.
And at that time, I mean, the internet was there, but your average person did not use it.
Well, your average person still doesn't use it.
No.
So, I mean.
I mean, your average techie even was not on the internet at that point.
They were doing other things, ham radio and other types of experimentation and telephones and stuff like that.
So, you know, this is something that goes back substantially further than that.
And one of the things that's really interesting about it, I mean, definitely not to the beginning of the last century,
but at least the last 50 years, if you were to go out and buy a radio today, it could talk to the radio of 50 years ago.
Well, yeah.
That might not be the most ideal format, but it's not like the difference between a 186 IBM and a Pentium 4, you know, however many gigahertz.
I mean, the basic concept and protocols are still in place.
Well, yeah.
I was going to say, it's not like.
Because it's somewhat limiting.
Yeah.
You're not mixing protocols.
You're not mixing different communication.
I mean, a frequency is a frequency all day long.
Yeah, you're either talking with AM, which is amplitude modulation, FM, frequency modulation, which is limited frequencies.
You can use that on not from a physical standpoint, but from a regulatory standpoint and, you know, friendliness of bandwidth standpoint.
And then you've got some modified versions of AM called single sideband where you're only using part of the AM signal.
And then you go down to the most basic of basic forms of communication, which is CW or Morse code.
And, you know, I mean, that goes back a long ways, although there have been substantial reductions in the requirements for that.
And there's potentially going to be an even more substantial reduction in that.
Actually, there's a potential for there to be an elimination entirely of the requirement for Morse code, which is in some ways is good,
because there has been a downturn in the number of people that are getting AM radio licenses.
And that's always been the major barrier because it is a difficult thing to learn.
Yeah, but that's sad.
Morse code is just a tradition, though.
I just I would hate to lose that as a as a requirement.
I understand why, but I mean, it's just that's just such a tradition.
Yeah, but the idea behind it is that it's not really used as much in a lot of the data modes, kind of replace it and don't require its use.
But, I mean, I think that at some level for the highest class of license, I think there should be something.
But really, the FCC, because of the World Radio Conference, eliminated their requirement for it globally.
I think that it's very, very likely that in December there's going to be some kind of a ruling that eliminates it.
Currently, you can get the most basic license without Morse code.
And that allows you to talk on VHF frequencies and UHF frequencies in a local kind of a way.
All right. Now, you're talking about the technician's license.
The no-code technician license, I think it might be good just to kind of go through what the current structure is.
The current structure is there's a no-code technician's license.
It's not an incredibly difficult test if you're a technology person.
I mean, my wife is not a technology person.
She sat in on a one-day boot camp and passed at the end.
Now, I will say she's smarter than the average bear, and I'm sticking to that story.
But, and she is, no, truly a very smart individual.
But, so you start with the no-code technician.
Then to gain access to a limited amount of what we call HF frequencies or high frequency, I guess HF frequency would be kind of like ATM machine.
But, anyway, HF would be high frequencies, and those would be ones that you could talk potentially across the United States or even across the oceans to other continents.
To get the most basic version of that, you then take a five-word-per-minute Morse code test, which is receive only, because it's actually easier to transmit Morse code than it is to receive it.
In your head, at least to me, it was easier to transmit it than receive it.
And then, from there, you just take theory classes getting harder.
Well, and, you know, that kind of ties in, though, to the theme of what we're talking about today is the independence from a lot of this stuff and the ability to still communicate without some of these modern ways of doing it.
And, like, I know we've talked on previous shows, and you and I have talked about some of the new computerized cards and digital technologies to kind of move – that it's some of the ham radio is moving in that direction.
However, I'm trying to kind of emphasize the fact, and that's why it's really sad with the Morse code, because no matter what – I mean, even – it's kind of cliché at this point because you see it in the movies, people communicating with Morse code.
But it does still work, and it does still exist, and it going away is kind of like – it's just a bad sign that we're losing a form of communication.
So I understand that now we're only talking in regards to the requirement of it as a license.
That's not to say that people aren't still going to know and use Morse code.
You're always going to have that as an old – again, for lack of a better word – protocol or communications means that you do still have those options available.
I mean, it's the ultimate in binary communication.
It's either on or it's off.
Absolutely.
It is the mother of all data forms, except it requires no computer whatsoever except your brain.
You know, if you know the protocol, you know that the – you know how to make the letters with the – and you can physically – if you're a sharp enough cookie and have enough MacGyver instincts, you can actually build a transmitter from a bunch of junk.
Now, it may not be the cleanest transmitter and et cetera, et cetera, and the best thing with the best receiver and the highest output power and all this other stuff, but you can physically communicate like that.
And, you know, personally, I'm not an enormous CW fan, Morse code fan, but it is the most basic of basics, and I will tell you that nothing works better than the bandwidth.
And it also translates across languages.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, definitely.
So you break the language barrier.
You can talk with people in other countries.
They may not speak English, but they can translate and understand Morse code.
In general, yeah.
I mean, you know, you're spelling English words.
Right.
There's also a lot of abbreviations and other things in there.
I mean, you can definitely exchange call signs with people, and they get – they would get the fact that you're in trouble.
Now, one thing with the current license structure that I would like to throw out there is you were talking about emergency communications.
Right.
The FCC can and has declared emergency situations, and when those things happen, all bets are off on the licensing program.
Okay?
Right.
You're a no-code technician, and you're on some little island, and everything goes down.
Mm-hmm.
You can transmit on any ham radio frequency you want to with any power output you have available as long as it's under the maximum,
and I don't think there's going to be little FCC guys jumping out from the bushes to write you a citation for any of that stuff.
I'm sure there's exceptions.
It's actually written in the rules that way, but that's very rare.
But, you know, if you're in a situation like that, I mean, the thing about HF is – think of it as the beginnings of long-distance communications without wires.
I mean, it's literally – you know, I can't guarantee that I can talk to you right now in Florida from Georgia,
but I guarantee you that I can talk to somebody somewhere.
Right, right.
So it's not like a telephone.
Exactly.
You have to kind of get past the fact that it's not like a telephone where I don't know that I can dial stank dog up.
It's not like that.
Right, right.
And that's exactly what we're talking about.
It is communications in a more basic form.
Yeah, it's exactly what we're talking about.
It is an alternative form of communication that people need to know that's out there,
and I wish more people actually did pursue it a little bit.
So actually, let's follow up on what you kind of were just saying about not being sure that you could broadcast from, say, Atlanta to Florida, for example, but from Georgia to Florida.
Well, actually, let's back up from that a little bit.
Let's say somebody is listening to this, and they're like, you know what?
It would be a good idea for me to have a backup form of communication, at least to listen.
What would be the cheapest way?
If somebody is listening right now and says, you know what?
I should have an emergency scanner at my house.
I should have a way to listen in on whether it's just emergency, like police, fire department, weather frequencies.
I know you can buy a cheap one at, I won't mention any store names, but big retail discount stores, whatever you want to call them.
You can buy them all day long or actually a lot of different places.
But what about, like, a scanner that will have not only that, but will let you listen in on some of the ham frequency, some of the HF?
Well, HF is going to be more difficult because you're talking about, at that point, you're talking about a shortwave receiver that can pick up single sideband.
Okay, so tell us the layers.
They can decode single sideband.
I mean, there will be some people on AM, but in general, those are going to be more people that tinker with older radios and things like that,
and you're not going to really have the emergency communications on there.
So what you're going to be looking for, and I'm not exactly sure the price range of it,
but you're talking about something that's going to be able to receive single sideband or what they sometimes call a BFO,
which is called a beat frequency oscillator, for long-range communications.
And at that point, when you're just talking about listening to something on HF, you're talking about a shortwave receiver,
and the longer the piece of wire you can hang in the air, the better it's going to work.
Right.
Antenna.
You know, now, when you're talking about something local, like a scanner,
you're actually going to have a harder time listening to the police and the fire departments than you are ham radio
because, unlike ham radio, they don't really want you to listen to more.
Well, lately especially.
Yeah, they put up trunking systems that you might hear part of a conversation but not even all of it
unless you have this grossly expensive trunk tracking scanner and all this other stuff.
But to listen to ham radio, listen to a weather radio retransmissions by NOAA,
you're talking about $100 brand new, less than that on eBay,
particularly because the trunking stuff and the digital radio stuff has forced a lot of this older equipment onto the eBay market.
But even like right now, I actually went back to come up with just an example.
The radio that I bought probably 13 years ago, which is an ICOM 735,
I looked on eBay right now and there's one, this is an HF radio with 100-watt output, $222 current bid.
So, you said that was 13 years old.
That's 13 years old.
And just to prove to our listeners, that's 13 years old and still works just as well today as it did 13 years ago.
Well, I have a tube radio that's a Yaesu FT-101, which has a very long history of many different models and iterations and everything else.
Now, it's a tube output radio, which actually has better sound quality than the transistorized ones, personal opinion.
But it was made, I think the first model was made before I was born.
But this one is probably, you know, like 30 years old.
You were born like, what, 60, 65 years ago?
Yeah.
70?
So, point being, that's just good reinforcement that what we were saying earlier about how the equipment and the, again, the protocols don't change.
Speed doesn't change per se.
The same equipment can still be bought, found cheaply for, at least for certain types of communications.
Yeah, I mean, you know, granted, if you go down, I just looked on the, one of the catalogs of one of the major ham radio online resellers, and they have an $11,000 HF radio.
Okay, that's a lot of money for an HF radio.
And granted, it's got every bell, every whistle, everything known to man on it.
Right.
But it still talks to the $200 radio you buy off of eBay.
Exactly, and you said there was a $100 one that maybe our listeners would be interested in on the low-end side of things?
Yeah, there's a scanner that's like $100 that you'd be able to receive local communications on VHF repeaters or UHF repeaters, those being short-range, VHF being very high-frequency, UHF being ultra-high-frequency.
Right.
Now, that's all that I have, and that's all that I use to listen to local weather and stuff like that, and that gets the job done.
That's going to be, you know, the easiest thing to hear about what's going on right where you are.
Now, as far as listening to what's going on a lot farther away or what people are talking about, it actually kind of can cause some problems because somebody who's 100 miles away from you that's talking on HF, you may not be able to hear them.
You can hear the person they're talking to, but you can't hear them, which, you know, it's not exactly like a telephone switchboard.
Right.
You know, but as far as you're dealing with something that it works, as long as there's some, not some major solar flare going on, it's going to work, and you're going to be able to talk to somebody somewhere.
Right.
Now…
But it's not like a telephone, like you dial up, you know, 404 or 813 or 202 or 212.
I mean, it's, that's really not the way that it works.
Well, you're going to have to do some scanning.
Yeah, you're going to have to understand that.
Right, and you're going to have to do some scanning.
You have to do a lot of listening.
I mean, the key thing with ham radio is to do a lot more listening than you do talking, particularly at the beginning.
I mean, I got into it from listening to a scanner locally, and then I heard some stuff on HF, on AM, on a shortwave receiver that I had, and then I went and took the class and took the first test and took the second test and took the third test and then waited a long time and then took the last test.
Cool.
Good, good stuff.
All right, well, is there anything else we should mention before we go off here?
Anything else comes to mind?
Well, if you want to hear a longer discussion about ham radio and other versions of radio, myself…
Saturday.
…Bernie S., and a couple other people will be giving a presentation at Hope at the ungodly hour of 10 a.m.
Oh, man, you're killing me waking…
Want me to wake up in time for that?
I expect you to be there.
Attendance will be taken.
I will be, absolutely, of course.
There will be no quiz at the end, but you can optionally find a local test, although we will not be prepping you for a test, just having a general discussion.
Good stuff, good stuff.
So, yeah, we will definitely get together at Hope No. 6.
Is that what they're calling it this year?
Hope No. 6?
Hope No. 6.
The 6th Hope.
And I'd also like to mention we're going to do a limited…
If you have a ham radio license, bring your ham radio HT or whatever.
We're going to have a limited number of contacts we have secured from the FCC, a special event call sign of November 6 Hotel or No. 6 Hope.
Ah, interesting.
Who pulled that one off?
Me.
All right, that's good.
All right, so, yeah, 10 o'clock Saturday, 10 a.m. Saturday in New York City.
So, be there.
In New York City.
And also, Friday night at 11 o'clock, you will be able to hear Binary Revolution Radio, Season 4, Episode 1.
We mentioned it at the top of the show, so your attendance will be mandatory for that one.
Hopefully, you'll come on the air for that episode as well.
I will be there.
All right, well, thank you for being on the show, Lynn, and we will move on and talk to our good friend, Mr. Parallel.
As I said earlier, to talk about some survival skills, specifically some urban survival skills, I thought, who better to have on the show than our good old, old, old, did I mention old, how old you are?
I'm not that old.
Old friend.
Hey, listen, it's me.
Am I allowed to call anybody old?
I mean, let's be honest here.
Yeah, I think you're the older one.
I'm a little older, but you're older than me.
Well, I'm not the oldest person on this episode of the show, just to throw that out there.
Our previous...
Yeah, we know who's the oldest on the show.
Anyway, okay, so, Dual Parallel, welcome to the show.
What's up, Spank?
Thank you for having me.
Oh, no, please.
I love having you on the show, and actually, we've got some surprises in a few minutes, and actually, surprise information from you coming up in a second,
but for right now, let's stick with the theme of dependence, or independence, I should say, of technology,
and what to do if you don't have your comforts of home and your cable modem, et cetera, et cetera,
and you have to, I don't know, hack on your feet, hack on the fly when you don't have things?
Yeah, this is a great topic.
It's very apropos.
So, I do a lot of traveling, so I deal with this a lot, everywhere from going out in the middle of the boonies to going to the biggest metropolises on the planet.
I can talk about surviving with little tech or lots of tech in an urban environment better than out in the boonies,
just because I haven't done that much, but I've, you know, literally had, you know, a pack of bull booms and, you know,
a dollar six for two jack-in-a-box tacos to my name, you know, and still have to make phone calls.
So, that I can tell you.
You're going to go get it?
Yeah, I'll get it.
All right, cool.
All right.
So, we're in an urban environment right now.
I don't know what's going on.
I don't know what's going on, but hopefully it doesn't sound too bad.
It doesn't sound raining at least.
Okay.
So, let's start with living without technology.
Is that cool?
Yeah, absolutely.
Okay.
So, guess this.
Everyone close your eyes.
Imagine, you've got, let's say you don't even have a car.
You've got your scooter, right?
You're in a big city.
Maybe you're from a suburban area or a small town and you end up in a, you know, a good-sized city.
Quite a few, more and more people are going to be living in urban environs as the population grows and our world progresses.
So, this is going to be more and more feasible as time goes on.
So, you're in a big city.
Maybe you've got a laptop.
Maybe you don't.
Maybe you've got a cell phone.
Maybe you don't.
What do you do?
Do you need connectivity?
Probably not.
You know, you can, believe it or not, you can find a job.
You can live.
You can, you can, I know this is, for this audience, this is a horrible, this is a horrible blast for me.
You can survive without a connection to the internet.
Well, no, that's exactly the theme of this episode of the show.
And I, yeah, it's ironic that we're talking about that, but.
Yeah, well, and this is what I'm trying to, this is the point that I'm making,
is that the first thing you need to do is to realize that you don't need that, right?
That's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a mindset.
And I know, you know, some people will say, you're an idiot for even saying that.
Some people will say, well, you're an idiot for even, you can live with that internet connection.
But that's your, the first thing you have to do is to think differently.
You can't go to Google for things now.
You're going to have to be aware.
You're going to have to think on your feet.
You're going to have to find stuff on your own, right?
You probably still need to communicate with people.
You probably still need to be knowledgeable about the world around you.
So how do you do that?
One, of course, or one thing to do, one great resource is the newspaper, right?
Your local rag.
And you don't have to pay for it.
You can find it free in many places.
Go into Denny's, go into, I don't know, any coffee shop, right?
Buy a cheap cup of Joe, and there's probably a paper laying around.
So there's your free paper.
You've got your want ads.
You've got your news.
You've got your porno classified, but I know you love to read Sting.
Absolutely.
So there's one great aspect.
Also, phone calls.
Long distance, maybe a little different.
We'll cover that next.
Local calls are real easy to find.
Ask people, right?
If you need to make a call, ask.
There are a lot of people that have courtesy phones, dealerships, oil change places.
Lots and lots of ways to get a free phone call.
If you have a tone dialer, that'd be really nice, but I guess that's kind of getting away
from not dealing with technology.
Right.
And just to throw out something that I found that has all of the things you've mentioned,
free papers, free courtesy phones, et cetera, is even if you're not staying there,
most hotels offer those things.
Yeah, and that's...
Walk right in the lobby.
That's actually...
That's a good segue.
We'll talk about...
Let me talk about long distance real quick.
You need to make a long distance call.
Friends, of course...
Friends can actually have a lot of things, you know.
If you literally are in the street, friends are your best resource.
Don't overstay.
Welcome for Crono Loud, but you can...
Right?
But if you need a bite, if you need a place to stay, you know, you can go to your in-law
moment and get your needs filled temporarily, but, you know, be cool.
So it's right until you can pass it around.
Long distance calls.
Honestly, cell phones, if you're ever out in the booties, anywhere, if you're ever in
the shits and you need to make a call, have a...
And I don't care.
I don't care if people like that or whatever.
Have a freaking base box.
Have yourself a small phone that you can clip on to something with.
Seriously.
Yeah.
That is the best.
When your cell phone doesn't work, there's a can somewhere where you can clip on to and
make a call.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mentioned that exact thing earlier about the base boxing and just general freaking skills,
which is absolutely what you're talking about.
They come in handy.
Absolutely.
Next, we'll use that segue.
Hotels, they're great.
If you can look the part, and it's not hard depending on the hotel, you can get, like you
said, everything, including internet connectivity, all in a hotel lobby without staying there.
You can BS if they call you out.
So you're good to go that way.
Free breakfast?
Yeah.
Free wireless?
You have to go to the breakfast.
Exactly.
Listen, most hotels...
And that's where we use that.
No, I was saying most hotels, as you well are aware, there's so many people there, they
can't really keep track of every single one of them.
Most people probably would not call you out.
Go to their free breakfast that they offer.
They usually offer a free paper, or if they don't, there are papers laying around from the
business people from the day.
Oh, yeah.
Some of them offer.
Absolutely.
And also, you know, again, don't go in with your low-off voice fight.
You know, if you can, you know, be right, you know what I'm saying?
Just kind of grow in, and you know, you can get in and out without even seeing a hotel
personnel, definitely looking the part helps.
Oh, yeah.
You can do...
It's amazing what you can do with a tie.
Oh, my God.
It's amazing what you can do with a tie.
Continuing with food, a lot of bakeries, right, even like a coffee shop I go to, at a certain
hour, they'll start slashing prices on their perishable goods, right?
Their baked goods, they'll just, you know, they'll be nothing.
You know, you go in, okay, this will be 50 cents, you know, you can get a croissant or
I don't know, whatever, to be clear, I don't know.
You can always look for deals like that.
You don't even have to...
Friends also help in the food industry, but if you don't have friends, even like sweet
pin somebody late at night, you know, closing time at the pizza joint or fast food joint,
you can always get free food or real good deals, you know, you give them, buy, you know,
two tacos and they'll give you, you know, all the hamburgers they got left over.
That works, they've done it a lot of times.
There's, you know what, there's a great, oh, it's a PDF book and I can't remember what
it's called.
I think it's called Rough Living and if I may give a shout out to Archangel, my brother
in the Great White North, he, you know, to it and it's a great read, real easy read and
it's a PDF and it's an electronic book and it's about this guy who basically lives on
the streets.
He chooses to, he seems intelligent enough and he talks about great ways to survive.
A lot of them are probably a little rougher than anyone, you know, than would need to
be if he's got any type of resources.
But it's a great, it is a great resource for a resource scarce environment.
Well, and that's another good point and that might be a good segue into the next thing
I kind of wanted to talk about and that's a little bit more general survival skills.
And I, again, it's, first of all, it's ironic in this subject that we're talking about independence
from technology on a show that's generally all about technology and hacking.
First of all, that's ironic in and of itself.
Secondly, exactly what you just mentioned, that this is a PDF and e-book, but the use
of technology now while you do have access to it and while you do have it available, playing
games, there's nothing wrong with playing some games, but if you can find some useful
information, especially that will help you pick up and learn those survival skills, it's
very ironic that you can use the global interweb to find such information that you'll be able
to then use later on if the need arises.
Very good point.
Exactly.
If you've got the resources now, use them to better yourself so if you're in that situation,
you can do that.
Honestly, I can't stand camping and all that outdoors crap.
F it, man.
I want concrete under my feet, okay?
You know, but if I can know how to use Google to search the Internet, right, and find this
PDF and read it in my library, you know, so if, you know, if I have, you know,
fit the skids, then I'll be, you know, I'll be prepared.
I'll be that much, you know, that much better for that situation.
If I may, Stank, having a knife, no matter where you are or what you're doing, is a great,
great idea.
Unless you're getting on an airplane.
Oh, yeah.
Well, you can always check it.
If you can't check a bag, you can always check that, but yeah, don't take it in the airport.
But having a good knife, a good blade, you know, spend the money, it's a great, it's
a tool, right?
Absolutely.
It could be used for self-defense, but if you need to strip wires for whatever reason,
you've got it.
Get something with duration, something that's easy to sharpen.
Definitely, definitely, if you can have a blade handy at all times.
I do.
I don't have my nails.
I just flew today, but, and I feel naked without it.
So, so that, I guess, did it actually go into too much, like, how to find technology with
that thing, you know what I mean?
Did I, the, because that was the, that was the section of how to deal without it, I guess.
Right.
And I guess mostly without internet connectivity.
No, I think that's some good advice in there.
Okay, can I, you think so?
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, good, and believe me, these work, by the way.
Oh, public, oh, also, public transit rocks.
Oh, my God, I wish I lived in somewhere, you know, in a town, in a city, where they actually
had some semblance of civic planning, and we had a wonderful public transit system, but
I don't, it's, we're cursed with these horrible, horrible, you know, shameless society that
is the automobile.
Public transit owns, where I live.
There's, there's, there's Wi-Fi on the buses, okay?
Mm-hmm.
Um, so, that's, that's one plus, but just using it, um, and using it wisely, I'm sure
everybody knows about the old transfer trick, right?
You get your, you get the transfer, and then you just kind of wave it in the guy's face,
and you get on, you know, all day long.
You can ride all day with, you know, one transfer.
It works great.
Um, not, you know, that's not, that's kidding, stealing, is it?
I mean, I'm just saying, you know, bees.
That's, uh, that's, uh, using the system.
That's his job to check the tickets, right?
That's right, exactly.
So, use public transit, it's cool.
I, I actually enjoy it more so than driving.
Um, so I guess that's the whole getting around and, and, and, and living in, what, was it
10 minutes?
Without technology.
Without internet connectivity, mostly.
Yeah.
And you still make phone calls.
Well, and, and just to, I think a good closing statement, and I think you'll completely agree
with me on this, I'm pretty sure, is, and it kind of goes back to what we both just said,
is use the access that you have right now, and do that research, and find out how to,
how to live on your own, how to survive without the same connectivity that you've grown very
accustomed to, and reliant, and dependent on right now, because, and this is, I think
you'll agree with me here, you never know when it's going to go away.
That's right, absolutely.
Could be any, any millions, dozens of reasons, whether it's financial, whether it's, um, I
mean, gosh, I could go into a huge list, and there could be any number of reasons to
an alien Armageddon.
Yes, actually, because that's actually going to happen, I'm glad you brought that up.
There's going to be, there's going to be an alien invasion, we're going to have a massive
EMP pulse, um, that's going to envelop, and every electronic device will be inoperable,
so start learning this stuff now, everyone.
Yeah, where, where, where will you be?
You know, oh, you know what else, you know, you know who we should be pimping right now,
we, neither one of us, we should be ashamed of ourselves.
Sean Kennedy.
Yeah, this is, this is very SK, PSM-esque.
Oh, I can't believe we didn't, yeah, listen, you know what, watch, and his show, I tell
you what, the, uh, patrolling with Sean Kennedy is great, that is, that, that is entertainment,
my friends, uh, the show, the, the radio show's good, and personally, if you're going
to, if you're going to use some bandwidth, grab patrolling with Sean Kennedy, that is
some good stuff to watch.
Good stuff.
All right, well.
Our surprise is not here right now, you know what, I could go, you know what, this is going
to be an adventure right now, because you never know what's going to happen.
So, if you can hang with me for a moment, we're going to go on an adventure.
All right.
It's just because the surprise is, for some reason, not here, I don't know what the deal
is, so we're, we're getting out, we got the keys, we're going to lock it.
A little urban exploration, live on the radio?
Sort of, yeah, we're, uh, we got to find the surprise, because I thought it'd be quick,
but it wasn't, so.
Well, that's what you get.
I don't even see it, there he is, he's at the counter.
Our surprise, of course, is a, is another co-host there.
Okay, this is, I don't know, we've already done the segment, and you're up next.
Oh, thank you.
Is it, what's, what's going on?
In like 15 minutes.
Yeah, seriously.
Give me your phone.
Here, all right, here's, here's the prize.
All right.
All right, so our surprise on this episode is, none other than Bland Inquisitor himself,
or for old time's sake, the Bland Inquizzle nipple.
Oh, Bland Inquizzle nipple.
Oh, so we're talking about survival skills.
First of all, welcome back for being on the show for a long time.
I'm sure everybody likes to hear from you once in a while, and, um, but specifically,
we're talking about, uh, some survival skills.
Dool talked about some urban survival skills and stuff, but I wanted to talk to you because
I know, because we've known each other for a while, and I was pretty sure that you and
I have one thing in common, that we were both in the Boy Scouts when we were younger.
Is that true?
Well, you tend to represent, you know, I don't think the Boy Scouts are all that gangster
as I remember them, but, sure, we'll go with that.
They were in South Dallas.
Oh, all right, well, yeah, I guess it depends on where, if you're the Scouts in the Hood,
the Hood Scouts or something.
Yeah.
Um, but no, but seriously, um, we talked about some urban survival skills, but I also, you
know, want to point out that general, normal survival skills are also something very important
to have.
If you lose technology, if you lose access, you don't have the global interweb, et cetera,
your PlayStation blows up, whatever the case may be, or the alien Armageddon that Dool
just mentioned a minute ago, have those survival skills.
And I think the Boy Scouts, and maybe, uh, you can verify this or confirm this, is you learn
a lot of those survival skills even when you're younger.
Sure.
And, you know, that's, um, this is something, you know, to take it to the old school, way
back in the way back, you know, when, uh, when, you know, you were using webcrawler to
look for hacking sites, you know, uh, it would always be HPAV, you know, S, and there was
always that element, the survivalist people were always in there, the anarchy people were
always in there, and so it's something that's deep in the community, since, uh, since of
being able to start fire without matches, you know, to be able to survive on your own,
to be, to be reliant on no one but yourself, uh, certainly it's something that we all did
for our education, uh, especially as the scene or the community or whatever you want to call
that, uh, the skill set, uh, the, the, the life of being, you know, Haxor, that's, that's
something that we did ourselves on largely, and it's, and it falls right in, uh, to be
able to, to rely on no one but yourself for your own survival.
Absolutely.
The shit jumps off, or if the zombie revolution comes, or whatever happens.
Right.
Uh, that no matter what goes down, and that we'll be the people that live to repopulate the
earth.
I mean, uh, Hacker is the beginning of, you know, the cyborg, and the cyborg is the
next, you know, step in the evolutionary ladder of, of Homo sapiens, so.
Wow.
Wow, that's a pretty big leap there.
That's a pretty big leap.
Well, you know.
You know, do what you gotta do, right?
Well, and you know, making fire, you talked about, that's something you learn about in
the Scouts.
Cooking, tying knot, first aid.
First aid is something that you're definitely kind of, you know, in the coming zombie invasion,
as you said.
And your skills, your PlayStation.
It's totally important.
Yeah, your, your Xbox and PlayStation zombie shooting skills may come into play.
Well, yeah, that's, that's practice and training.
It's like the last Starfighter, man.
There you go.
Oh, man, what a great movie.
Oh, I gotta watch that tonight now.
Why'd you have to stick that in my head?
Oh, it's lead shit.
Yeah.
And, and you know, hunting and fishing, and Duel kind of made a joke earlier that he wasn't
really into the whole camping and out in the tent and the woods and stuff, but I'm
kind of into that.
I enjoy that kind of thing.
And you learn a lot of skills out there that, hey, you never know.
I mean, I know we're just joking about this kind of stuff, but you never know when something
might happen.
You really don't.
I mean, there was a huge, um, power outage in California not too long ago with, uh, was
it Enron?
That whole, who was, what was the company out there that lost all their power?
Oh, man.
What the hell?
Oh, oh, there was just a big ass, uh, Thunderside.
And you got old.
And Duel, and Duel just owned me.
That sucked real bad.
Well, we're going to leave that in the show for the listeners then.
Oh, my bad.
Oh, man.
I just, I just shit in my pants.
I was going to say, do you need to clean yourself up now?
What's that?
I said, do you need to clean yourself up now?
Yeah, as far as you, I got the, uh, I got the leather interior.
So we just take it to a car wash and just spray it right off.
Ah, there you go.
Just go through the car wash with the windows down?
Yeah, the sunroof open.
We'll be, we'll be, we'll be squared away.
It'll be all right.
You look good.
But, yeah, I mean, everything, really everything is training if you'll, if you'll let it be.
Uh, everything, you have to assume that one day shit's going to go south badly and for,
for keeps.
Yep.
And so, you know, it's better, it's better to learn now how to, you know, actually take
care of yourself.
Because the problem, you know, it's the Tyler Durden syndrome.
We've got no great war.
We're the middle children of history.
We're the bastard sons of the founding fathers.
And so, and we're all a bunch of pussies.
You know, it would do you good to walk around without your shirt on every now and again.
And it would do you, it would serve you well to put down the goddamn Xbox controllers and
go take a walk every now and again.
It would do you well to save up a bunch of money and fucking just go walk around Tokyo
with no plans and not learn the language.
Well, me and dude are doing tomorrow, you know what I mean?
I was going to say that.
And go and fucking do and learn what to fucking do for yourself and stop being such a goddamn
titty baby.
There you go.
Well, that's, that's a good segue because that's how I was going to kind of close out
of this is pimp the fact that you and Mr. Parallel are going to be taking a very interesting
trip.
Oh, yes.
We're going to go bump around Tokyo tomorrow.
I'm so jealous.
Yeah, it's going to be hot.
It's the best shit ever.
Yeah, I'm so jealous of that and you are going to get lots of good pictures and are
you going to do some blogging of what's going on there too or?
Yeah, you can, you can catch it at Sibian dot, no, I'm just kidding.
Tokyo dot duals and noob dot com.
That'll be, we're going to bump some audio, no video because we're not taking the tag,
shit loads of pictures, just everything, all the media and lots of media that we can come
up with, we'll be putting it up there nightly from, from, from ill gotten, from however
the fuck we can get net access, I'll say that.
Well, you use those urban, urban survival skills to do what you got to do in Tokyo and make
sure you come back and tell us the stories of exactly how it went and what kind of cool
stuff you found because it's a whole different society as I'm sure you're well aware and
that's what you're looking forward to and that's why I'm freaking jealous as hell, but
your goal, of course, you're going over there, first of all, to find the chick that goes,
arf, arf, 911 information.
Okay, that's your, that's your, that's your number one goal.
Your number two goal, of course, and, and, you know, I mean this in all seriousness, good
luck with the bukkake film.
I really want you guys, I want you to be successful, I want you to make a lot of money on this,
so I want, you know, I want you to go over there, I want you to concentrate, store up,
so don't, you know, get yourself all backed up so that when it comes bukkake time, you
can deliver.
Okay?
We've been eating lots of, uh, we've been feeding each other spaghetti like Lady and
the Tramp and shit, and so, uh, when it comes time for us to blow our nuts over some Asian
19-year-old, you know, down there, we can, we can do that with, uh, with skill and expediency.
And buy some, buy some schoolgirl panties out of a vending machine.
Yeah, you're, you're definitely going to need to look for some of those coming to you in
the mail, because we, as soon as we find the, the mythical panty machine, we're probably
going to clean the fucker out.
You guys are going to go max out your credit cards buying panties out of a vending machine.
Oh, shit.
I, I'm going to be scared.
If I see a package that comes from Tokyo, I'm going to be scared to open it.
I'll probably...
You guys are a little bit like you, sushi?
Oh, it's, I'm probably going to get, like, something like fucking panty Sars or some
shit like that.
I mean, fucking, I mean...
You're going to get the, you're going to get the flu, coochie variant.
Oh, shit, man.
All right, well, anyway, let's, let's close up on that note.
Uh, you guys have a good time.
I would like to close on a, on coochie flu.
There you go, the coochie flu's always good stuff.
Oh, man.
All right, well, we are going to move on and talk about a couple other things and do a
little bit of email, but definitely thanks to Mr. Dual Parallel and Mr. Blandin Quizzer,
both alive and kicking, so it's good to have you guys on the show, and, of course, we talk
off the show as well, but I'm sure a lot of people like hearing from you guys, so let
them know that you're okay, enjoy Tokyo, and we will talk to you guys later.
All right, thanks a lot.
Say it a lot, thanks.
Talk to you later.
All righty.
All right, so Penis is back, I mean, Droops is back on the show.
Sweet.
And, um, yeah, this has been kind of a fun show with lots of different, uh, people on
this time, but, uh, some very, very, um, very, very fun topic as it turned out.
I didn't think it was going to be so, uh, off the wall, but it turned out pretty fun.
Uh, before we completely leave out of this, we're kind of talking about, um, survival skills,
urban survival, we kind of talked about even, you know, roughing it if the need be, uh,
uh, and that's kind of what you're going to be doing.
You've got something coming up there in, uh, Mississippi sometime soon, right?
Well, not anytime soon, but yes, certainly, uh, something coming up.
Well, when I say soon, it's next year, right?
It's, uh, not this year, but next year, around, uh, Thanksgiving, we're going to have
HayCon.
HayCon?
And it's going to be a HackerCon out in the field.
Thus the name Hay.
Which makes no sense.
Is that what the Hay comes from, or is Hay an acronym for something?
No.
No, I'm going to be making a little bed on some hay and camping out.
Oh, okay.
But, uh, we're trying to find a barn, but, uh, we're going to have a HackerCon with no
technology of sorts, where it's all about the mindset of the hacker, not the actual computers.
There's, I mean, no one uses their computer when they go to a con anyway.
Yeah, right.
Well, unless you're presenting, and then just bring it on a disc.
But we're going to have, uh, people camping out.
There's not going to be any admission charges.
Just get your stuff to, uh, Mississippi and do what we can come up with.
All right.
Sounds good.
And you said that sometime next year, around when?
Uh, Thanksgiving.
Thanksgiving.
So HayCon, BarnCon, whatever it ends up being, you will keep us informed of that, I'm sure.
Oh, yeah.
And it's HayCon.info.
Really?
Have you already got that registered, or?
Oh, yeah, buddy.
Oh, cool.
All right.
Good deal.
Don't say the main name that you're not registered.
Oh, exactly.
Um, well, we do sometimes, but, because we don't care.
But anyway, um, yeah, I guess to summarize the whole flow or main topic today is that,
yes, we're hackers, we're in closely in tune with technology and all that kind of stuff,
but don't lose sight of the real world.
It's out there.
It exists, and you better be able to adapt and deal with it when change happens, which
it inevitably does.
So, we can reduce our dependence on a lot of things, on some things, and have emergency
backup plans ready, et cetera, or just preparation for change being the right state of mind.
Now, normally we would go on to some email here, but quite honestly, we don't have any
time.
We had such a full show this time.
Um, I will make, I will briefly, I want to at least mention that I got an email from
Lentium, uh, who pointed out that I have been making, uh, been having some problems with
the audio.
No one else has told me this, but basically I had forgotten to change the setting in Audacity.
I just installed it on this new box, um, when I took over for Ratchet, when he took his
little hiatus there, so I didn't even notice it, didn't pay attention.
I was just throwing the stuff on the box to get it going.
So, Lentium, thank you for pointing that out.
Hopefully you'll notice a difference in this, uh, this episode.
What setting is it?
Um, the audio on the, uh, normalization, I had it set to negative three decibels box
check, so simply unchecking the box took care of it.
It was a little bit off-center, so to speak.
Good deal.
So, um, thank you for that, Lentium.
And other than that, let's close out the show with some shouts.
Um, I've actually got quite a few, so why don't you start off the shouts this week, Droopy?
I just want to shout out to all the Info Crew.
The Info Crew.
Is that crew with, like, a K, like, Crush Groove crew, or?
Yes.
All right.
It's K with a crew.
Gotcha.
Well, I, um, have to give shout outs to the gang down in Houston, the Houston 2600
slash BinRev meeting, whatever they are.
They just meet, like, every week, and they were really cool guys, and, uh, I was down
there recently, and they were very, uh, accommodating and welcoming to me, and I appreciate that.
So, big, big shouts to all those guys.
And to the BR843 meeting in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, who had a huge first meeting
from what I heard.
Pretty, pretty good turnout for that, so good luck with that, guys.
And let me know if there's anything I can do to help out.
And I have to give shouts to Iron Geek, who sent in an email, a lot of information about
Vista.
I was hoping to get him on that Vista episode, and we didn't get the timing worked out.
But shouts to him.
He did send me an email with a lot of good Vista information.
Unfortunately, we didn't have time to do it this week.
So maybe we'll do a part two of that Vista Beta 2 review sometime soon, and maybe get him
on.
Uh, site of the week this week is, uh, as we kind of mentioned earlier, it's Tokyo, T-O-K-Y-O,
dot, Duel is a Noob, D-U-A-L-I-S-A-N-O-O-B dot com, Duel is a Noob dot com.
And, uh, by the time you're listening to this, the fireworks are settling down, and Duel Parallel
and Bland Inquisitor are on their way to Japan first thing in the morning, so keep up with
their blog, and they'll let you know what's going on.
Uh, if you have any feedback of any kind, um, or you like us just randomly shouting out
Penis during the show, whatever works, uh, send the radio, send us email to radio at
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Closing music this week is from Jesse Dangerously.
It's a track called Outfox that I like, so that's going to do it.
Droops, anything else in the, uh, closing part of the show here you wanted to bring up?
Uh, you got it, buddy.
Penis?
Penis.
See you guys next week.
Same hack time!
Same hack channel.
One, two, three, four!
That people are under the assumption!
When you go step with this guy and the whole world steps against life.
It's like, get right, live the rest of this life.
And don't bring anything else to the fifth side.
It looks like I'm not myself, I just might.
Break my toe, break, ooh, break it, oh, this my face hurts.
Danger, take control, I hate to make the bad situation worse.
Girl, your friend don't give a shit, your ass is facing first.
Try the dice and send your face first to the nurse station for dirt.
Work in my patients, gonna see how all my patients work.
Get comfortable to lay in some dirt.
Armament, see how you like it, and if you want it permanent.
Now I'm psychic and mad, but not the violent side.
When I ignite the mic, it's my dynamite.
Sing a silent night, styling like a hot curler.
Back burner, keep it on like a pilot light.
Brining on the mind of cash, shining with my diamond mind.
Biding my own fine divine, shining on the final line.
I don't find my time, achieve mine.
Deep time while I'm asleep, I can't keep an eye on every guy.
That's the mind, that's me too wide.
Why should I redeem?
I'm speaking of mine, on the fly, it's people that keep on the mind.
I'm achieving and I'm achieving.
My hot wings, please.
You never outfoxed me.
I said I was a pacifist and had the road boxed me.
You're not clever at all because I figured that I'd be just killing it with rhymes.
I'm feeling like a hobby.
You never outfoxed me.
You better outfoxed me.
I said I was a pacifist and had the road boxed me.
You're not clever at all because I figured that I'd be just killing it with rhymes.
I, I, I'm killing it.
Really, that's what you're dealing with, yeah.
I'm revealing the illegitimate hair.
Do you ever think about when you're out of here?
I'm thinking about getting in there without a care, but I know how to share.
I've been through beavers and cuffs.
It's time to eat and a thug.
Give it at me when I'm leaving the club.
We can discuss.
You're going to be dumb, kid.
Take your heat and it up.
I don't need to say I'm sleeping, disgust.
I might sleep and catch a breeze in the bus.
Leave on the bus before I give you up the reason to bust.
Feeling a seasonal funk.
That's what me cool want.
Imagine that you'll prove I'm a school of freezing you fall.
You sneeze and you cough.
But I'm nothing to sniffle at.
You make a lot of noise but don't connect like a whipple bat.
Then you're still a triple bat.
That's me in high school.
Sucks that.
You were good at that.
How do you think you made a rap rhythm?
You heard that?
Yes, I'm sure you have.
Well, you should be concerned with that.
If you ever want to earn a rap and earn respect.
So then I'm burning your ass.
And if you're smart, then you're burning your ass.
Before we lay you out, I'm burning your ass.
On the Terminator X.
Speaking with the hands until we burn away the flesh of it.
Learn to make the best of it.
Perforated rest.
If you're smart, you're burning yourself.
Burn out the best.
You never outfoxed me.
You better outfoxed me.
I said I was a path of incident as it rose.
Do you not clever as I'm because I figured it out?
I'm just killing it from ground to build a sound like a hobby.
You never outfoxed me.
You better outfoxed me.
I said I was a path of incident as it rose.
Do you not clever as I'm because I figured it out?
I said I was just killing it with rights.
You just got your ass kicked.
Try to play by the pacifists.
Don't call the faggot by a gay rights activist in broad daylight.
Hey guys, after this my place.
Four for less than an impression pacifist.
You got your ass kicked.
Try to play by the pacifists.
Don't call the faggot by a gay rights activist in broad daylight.
Hey guys, after this my place.
Overlessing in aggression and happiness
Under the assumption
That peace is soft assumption
I don't want to help, I just want to chill
Under the assumption
That peace is soft assumption