This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers, to the hackers and the crackers.
I see in binary, I speak source code, step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you
and a fag pwned.
In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho, cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold.
I was a dick with my 56, now with my cable I'm able to get that stable.
On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo. On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero.
In a flash, I'll screw you on burning Dreamcast. You need some ISO? Let me through my hard drive rifle.
Our exchange you could never stifle. In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug.
I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z.
Your CG, it's all gonna be free, whether we take it by force or we take it nicely.
You feel that rattling your bones? When I tell you we just hacked out Jones.
And NASDAQ leaves you flat on your back, cause I am he who loves to hack and crack.
Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack.
This is dedicated to the hackers and the crudges.
Serial codes, source codes, ISOs, RANs, SIPs, SIPs.
This is dedicated to the hackers and the crack.
Hello everyone and welcome to Binary Revolution Radio, episode number 157.
I am Stank Dog and this is the very first episode of season 4 of the radio show.
But you're about to hear a little bit of deja vu because I am going to very shortly play you
the recorded episode that we did live this past weekend at Hope No. 6 in New York City.
We did the first episode of season 4 in front of a live audience.
It was recorded and we are going to stream it to those of you who were not fortunate enough
to attend the conference.
But the episode was actually recorded on Friday, July 21st.
But we are going to stream it to you, the listeners, on Tuesday, July 25th.
A little bit of a delay.
Anyway, I'll go ahead and warn you up front that we had, well I shouldn't say we, I should
say they, the wonderful camera crew there at the Hope Conference, I guess for some reason
or another decided to stop taping about an hour and 10, hour and 15 minutes into the show.
Right at a very, what I thought was a very cool point of the show.
Our special guest was in the middle of speaking so I apologize for that.
But we're going to go ahead and play you what we did get from them and I'm pretty sure that
the rest was lost.
I'm going to try one other avenue and maybe see if I can get the complete version to fill
this out some other time.
But until then, enjoy the first and only ever, so far, episode of Binary Revolution Radio in
front of a live audience.
All right, wait, let's make sure, we gotta, we gotta start this off right, so, do a little
browsing here.
Oh yeah.
One, two, one, two.
Check, check, check.
Hello.
All those other numbers.
We're just warm bodies.
One, zero, one, one.
Test, test, that one's on.
Everybody else?
Yeah, I'm cool.
I think we're on.
All right.
And, let's test the tunes.
This is because Natus is lame.
Music match, huh?
Hey, it comes with Dell.
What are you going to do?
Micah, micah, check.
Biatch.
I was just making fun of music match.
Are we calling this the, uh, indecent version of Binary Revolution?
Oh, there's no such thing as a decent version of Binary Revolution radio.
Oh, the language, my ears.
Any sound coming from?
You hear this?
I want you to bump this.
Do your dirt, dawg.
Do your dirt.
Pump it.
You can fill a stadium with cats,
some shit cracked by radio.
Liquid sky will never die.
Before the crackings and the hackers,
life was wagging.
Software we could never stack for.
People floored by these evil whores.
All the best shit we could never afford.
The internet and MV3, they set us free.
I'm downloading Windows and me,
playing now on FTP.
You bitches will never find me,
because I'm everywhere, see?
Yo, dawg, you got something new?
Hit me off on ICQ.
I'll help you back and jive.
I got some top-knock shit on iDrive.
We shut one site down, we multiply.
Like a phoenix from a different place, we rise.
Then you got the squares.
Yo, dude, you're stealing, don't you care?
LOL, bitch, I got a terabyte of wares.
I like my files, simple, rare.
I'll download 700 segments from a thousand sites.
I'll drink coffee, snort speed, I'll stay up all night.
I'll have the company's night.
I'm going to give it a little time for someone trickled.
Those ISPs, find me, please.
Alright, so...
The theme song.
I have to start this off right.
Hello, and welcome to Binary Revolution Radio...
Oh, wait, sorry.
Episode 157.
So, for those of you who don't know,
and all we're doing here,
we've got some pictures, screen shows,
so you have something else to look at besides me,
because he can only take so much of looking at me.
These guys, on the other hand,
feel free to stare at them.
I think the longer you stare,
the more they'll take off.
But, you know.
So, for those of you who don't know,
feedback,
this is Binary Revolution Radio.
This is the first episode of Season 4
of the radio show.
Oh, yeah, there's going to be some good stuff,
so Spontaneous Laughter is highly encouraged.
Go to BigCock.com,
just so everyone knows.
And there will be,
anybody who has any asthma,
has heart problems,
pregnant women who may be nursing,
any of that,
you might want to step out,
because there will be some language issues in this,
I'm sure,
because that's one of the great things
about doing an internet radio show.
One of the things that we've always been...
I've known from day one
that this is the medium
and the only medium
that we can really do something like this,
not only for the content of the hacking
and the technology and stuff
that goes along with it,
but also because we can speak freely
and say what we want.
I don't have to deal with FCC regulations,
and I don't have to wait
for once every two years
to do an indecent version.
Every version is indecent
on Binary Revolution Radio.
So,
we started...
I'm going to do a little history kind of first.
I already look out here,
and I know a lot of people
are long-time friends of the show,
so we appreciate you coming out.
But for anybody
who's not familiar with the show,
we started Binary Revolution Radio
around the middle of 2003,
three seasons ago.
Fourth one is starting today,
like I said earlier.
But it actually kind of has some roots
before that.
Before Binary Revolution Radio,
I was on a show
that was started by
some good friends of mine,
Dual Parallel,
and that would be true.
Some of you guys will recognize
some of the pictures on there.
It started by one of my good friends,
Dual Parallel,
another good friend of ours,
Rax.
That was one of my...
That was...
That's a fresh picture right there.
Everybody,
this is just a side show.
Pay attention to us, please.
Yeah,
I'm warning you,
they might see some pretty explicit stuff.
There's no bare TNA,
I don't think.
Unless you...
Could be some of my TNA,
so just bear with us.
So,
yeah,
Radio Freak America
was a show
started by a good friend of mine,
Dual Parallel,
and...
I spoke too soon.
Actually,
actually,
on that picture,
Natas,
why don't you come on up here
with us for a few minutes.
This is Natas,
everybody,
who's also been on the show
several times.
And as you can see,
Natas is pretty fearless.
He has no fajir.
It was stuffed.
It was a shirt.
Oh, right.
Sure it was.
I swear to the bottle.
That's exactly what he meant.
So,
and of course,
who you see here,
this is the DDP.
These are some of my,
some of the guys
that we do a lot of our projects with.
Some of these guys that I,
we meet up with
at several of these conventions.
Great guys.
Intelligent.
Well,
for the most part,
you know.
Okay,
let's...
Wait,
who are you talking about?
Intelligent.
And then the...
No,
I'm just kidding.
No,
actually,
these guys are like
the heart and soul of the show.
Along with a lot of other people
that are out there,
I'm going to go through
and bring some people up too
because the cool thing
about the show
is that we bring people up
that are knowledgeable
in different subjects
about hacking.
Kind of to go back
and let's go back
to RFA again.
RFA was a show
that covered a lot
of different things.
And you've probably seen
some of the pictures pop up.
The slogan was
technology,
privacy,
and freedom.
Technology,
privacy,
knowledge.
Knowledge,
excuse me,
knowledge and freedom.
So,
and actually,
Rax,
of course,
was one of the founders
of that show.
So,
Rax,
thank you for helping
get the whole
internet hacking genre.
It started off,
you know,
back with
Hacker Mind
was a show
that was on
for a little while
and RFA,
which I loved
and I became good friends
with Duel and Rax
because of
the radio show.
And speaking of Duel,
how is that
for perfect timing?
And there's Duel
and I last
at the Hope No. 5
where he and I
kind of had been friends
from my articles
in 2600
from him on the radio show.
I supported what he was doing.
I thought it was a great thing
and we kind of
started building the show up
and I kind of wanted
a little bit more
structured type of show.
So,
kind of about halfway through it,
we decided we'd kind of
branch off two shows
and
that was my
elite Photoshop skill
she just saw there too.
We thought we'd start
a new show
that was
focusing only on
the technology,
only on the hacking,
the freaking,
some fringe things
like urban exploration,
any kind of
general technology
type topics
would fit on there okay.
We kind of had one rule
and the rule was
no politics.
And we've stuck with that
from day one
and that's one of the things
I've been most proud of.
I'm not going to bash
any presidents.
I'm not going to get up
and complain.
I might complain about
the government once in a while
but I'll keep it minimized.
I'll go off on a little rant
occasionally.
There's the money shot.
So we'll go into,
you know,
I'll go into some rants
and that's why I kind of
already warned you that
yeah,
there's going to be
some language issues
that you'll hear
once in a while
but it's because
we do have that freedom.
That's Natus again.
Natus is the star
of the show, man.
Natus is...
So I guess I lied.
There was A
but there was no T yet.
I don't think there's
any T unfortunately
but you know.
But feel free
if somebody wants to,
you know,
anyway.
Rax,
can you,
you want to come up
for a couple minutes?
Rax,
ladies and gentlemen,
one of the founders
of Radio Freak America.
No, no,
stay there,
stay there.
We got a mic here.
Another microphone
we didn't test.
I thought there was
two rules for BinRev.
No politics
and mandatory swearing.
No, it's not mandatory
because sometimes
I'll have a guest on there
that out of respect
and courtesy
I will not drop
the F-bomb.
But those are few
in front of you.
Who is this person
that you won't drop
the F-bomb in front of?
Because I don't think
they exist.
Fuck you.
His mother.
Apparently it's not me.
Episode 17
with Stank and his mom.
I'll tell you one,
Ilanka.
A very good friend of mine
and I out of respect
for her that she's
such a great person
that I don't like
to use that language
around her.
There you go.
There's your example.
Great comeback, right?
Yeah, right.
Anyway, Radio Freak America,
why don't you talk
for a few minutes
about that?
RFA.
Duel is in,
well, we don't want
to drop too much
to talk about it.
Right, right.
But I think people know
he's in Albuquerque
and I'm in Phoenix
and he shows up
to one of our 2600 meetings.
Really friendly guy.
Really friendly.
Creepily friendly.
I'm thinking,
this guy's a fed.
And he's going,
well, you know,
I'm thinking about
doing this and that.
And he said,
you know,
I wanted to do a radio show.
So yeah, that's cool.
So let's talk about it.
Figured it out.
Did it all through
over the phone.
The first thing was,
any trivia buffs out there?
We've probably covered
this too many times.
But first episode of RFA?
Air date?
Oh, man,
I should know this.
It's my site
that it's on now.
Yeah.
O2,
well,
the first bit
was recorded
O2-0-2-0-2.
First broadcast
was O2-20-02.
And came up
with the name
Radio Freak America.
By the way,
I'm wearing this
in honor of Duel here.
He is a true freak
in a sense.
And by freak,
I don't mean
a telephone enthusiast.
Anyway.
There are a lot of freaks
on RFA.
So we talked about
just what in that
we wanted to do.
So he was doing
the phone-freaking
kind of thing.
And I thought,
you know,
Radio Free America.
Well,
Radio Freak.
So that's why
it was Free K.
Capital K at the end.
It was Free Knowledge.
Keep Knowledge Free,
which was always my slogan.
So that's why
it was technology,
privacy,
freedom,
and knowledge
or something like that.
Anyway.
So we were going
to make these stickers up
for Hope
a couple of years ago.
And we just couldn't
fit everything on there.
So I cut knowledge
off of there.
So we did that
for quite a while.
We mainly did it.
We taught ourselves
all the stuff.
This is, you know,
pre-podcasting days
as we were doing
all these things.
And we just said,
yeah,
let's just throw it out there
and see what to do.
We'd come up with a show.
Unlike Stank,
who has show novels.
Right?
Yeah,
I don't have show notes.
We would like
shoot a little text pad
over to each other
just like three minutes
before we were going
to record.
Did everything
over the phone.
Used Audacity.
Played with all the stuff.
And just had kind of fun
and started talking
about the various things.
So it started really
as an outshoot
of our Phoenix 2600 meeting.
And worked on it.
Yeah,
that was last night.
Anyway,
started doing that.
I actually had
the opportunity
and I can't talk
too much about it.
Started doing actually
a local on-air
in Phoenix radio show
on the dark side
of technology.
And had hopes
of taking that,
syndicating that
didn't quite make it
with that.
But possibilities,
I might be able
to do something else
with a non-traditional
air broadcast
kind of thing
for that.
So anyway,
that's about it.
And then Stank
started showing up
and it's like
a stray cat.
You feed him once
and he keeps coming back.
Keep coming back.
That's exactly...
Can't get rid of me.
Can't get rid of you.
Can't get rid of me.
Hey,
thank you for coming up here.
And actually,
Wernermute,
why don't you come on up
because it's kind of
where you come into
the story here.
Wernermute,
also a good friend of ours
from RFA Days
who's been around
for quite a while.
Someone who we're
very proud of right now
going out there
getting the education.
So he's kind of been
out for a little while
so we're glad
to have him back today.
But Wernermute started
on Radio Freak America
what,
somewhere around the 30s?
Go back.
Hacker Mind, baby.
Hacker Mind.
Oh, Hacker Mind.
Yeah, Hacker Mind Days.
I don't know.
Raise your hand.
And actually,
you and I met
from Hacker Mind originally.
Did anyone raise your hand?
Hacker Mind,
that show ring a bell?
Well, Hacker Mind,
really quick.
That show was
Screamer Chaotix
and Dash Interrupt.
They had the show.
That was really
one of the first
hacking online radio,
you know,
Shout Cash radio shows.
I got down with that
and I became
really good friends
with them.
Met them at Hope
back in 2002,
H2K2.
You know,
really, really
made a good friendship there.
And in the mix
on the forums,
met Stank,
met Duel,
got together
and around episode 25,
I want to say,
I came on
Radio Freak America
because at that time
Hacker Mind was going
to go,
was kind of teetering
and it was,
then it was going
to falter
and it just stopped,
they stopped recording
eventually.
So,
oh well,
that'll be missed.
But I got onto RFA.
I think the first episode
we did,
I was a little worried
because Rex and Duel
were,
I didn't really know
them that well
and anything but that,
but it was cool.
What we did,
we talked about
amateur radio
because at the time
I was really into
amateur radio,
still am.
And that was a lot
of fun.
Did a little
internet radio
linking project.
We talked to some
different repeaters
around the country
and you know,
then pretty soon
it turned into
like episode 100
of that show
and Duel didn't
want to keep going
with it as much.
So BinRev came around.
Well,
real life,
real life of course
happens is something
we've always said
on the show
and it's worth
repeating here
in front of everyone
live.
Real life is greater
than hacking.
Real life things
come first.
Family,
taking care of kids,
getting your job
and finances
and things like that
in order.
So that always
comes first.
The time that it
takes to do
a weekly show
like this
and some others
are going to
certainly attest
to this in a few
minutes as well,
to do it well
and to do it right
and consistently,
it's not an easy
thing to do
especially when we
are so,
we do take a lot
of pride
and put a lot
of time into
doing the research
to getting people
on the show
to talk about
these particular topics.
It even takes a long
time to do it
bad, right?
Well,
thank you for adding
that in there,
yes.
You would be the
expert on that,
right?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, see,
I'll turn it back
on you.
We started
BinRev Radio
somewhere around,
I want to say
it was in the
70s,
60s or 70s
episodes of RFA.
Duel and I
had spoken,
you know,
it was all
on the down low
and that he was
probably,
you know,
he was running
out of time
to do the show
regularly,
so we kind of
took BinRev
in a different
direction.
And as much
as I loved RFA
and I loved
being on it
and I actually
got Bland on
the show
and Bland and
Duel,
unfortunately,
neither one
could make it
but both
great friends
of mine,
so if you're
out there
watching where
the camera's
at,
you know,
thanks a lot
for hanging
in there
and helping
out with a lot
of the stuff
that we've done.
They're really
good friends.
We kind of
all talked
about,
you know,
the future
of the show
and,
you know,
maybe we should
keep RFA going
and new hosts
or whatever
and I didn't
really feel right
about that
because,
you know,
that was the
show they
created
and kind
of wanted
to go
in a different
direction
format-wise.
With BinRev,
you know,
and again,
I talked to
Duel and
Everybody's
Blessings
and all that
kind of stuff
and we
continued doing
both shows
until we
had a good
transition set up
but Wintermute
and I decided
that,
you know,
we're going
to start
this new show.
I sat down
and write my
show novels
as they're so
accurately described
where I get
very verbose.
I type a lot
of,
started off as
what a lot
of hacker shows
start off with
now,
which is a lot
of news topics
and opinions
thrown in,
which we tried
to get away
from very early.
I wanted to be
more educational
to shows
and actually
teach processes
and teach
types of hacking.
So we kind of
went in that
direction
pretty quickly
but in the
beginning,
Wintermute
and I,
we would
co-host the
show together
pretty regularly
and then we
started kind of
mixing in
other people
onto the show.
So,
actually,
maybe now
and we'll
get Slipmode
up on the show
who's also
been doing
an internet
radio show
and have
him talk
about in
the now
and he can
kind of
attest to
what it
does take
to do a
radio show.
Thank you,
Wintermute,
for coming up.
Appreciate it.
Slipmode.
Slip.
Do it again.
Well,
I'm Slipmode.
Actually,
at the last
HOPE conference
about this
time on a
Saturday,
I was doing
a speech
about Hacker
Radio
for the HOPE
conference back
then.
Some of these
pictures,
I'm sorry,
some of these
actual pictures
are from that
presentation.
Dole and
myself were
sitting up
there.
So I do
a show,
well,
I did a show,
I haven't done
it in a while,
again,
it's life,
but I did it
for about four
years and it's
called In the
Now.
And I started
a little bit
before Radio
Frequent America,
I think I was
doing it a year
before that.
I don't,
when did
Hacker Mind
start?
I started
about 2001.
About the same
time.
So I wasn't
familiar with
Hacker Mind
at the time,
but we were
doing a show,
me and a buddy
of mine named
VR,
and he's just
a guy I've
known forever
and we always
talked about a
lot of very
interesting topics
and I said,
hey,
why don't we
talk about it
and let people
listen to it
and just see
what they feel
about it
and if they
want to talk
about it
and we also
include many
other guests
on the show
to talk about
the things
we're interested
in and those
things were
obviously,
you know,
concerned with
technology,
you know,
there's a lot
of factors
and things
that are going
on around us
in this world
that we don't
exactly have
control of
and it's
impacting our
lives and it's
very important
that people
stay abreast
of it and
know about it
and we try
to do our
best to talk
about those
things and get
out there and
kind of raise
a mental
awareness so
then it got
people thinking
and once you
start thinking
maybe you could
turn it into
action and
that's what we
tried to do
so we did
that show
until June
of 2005
and I ended
up getting
really busy
I was going
to school
while I was
doing the show
but I ended
up getting
really busy
and wanted to
take on
other projects
so I wouldn't
mind doing it
again in the
future but
things got
busy and I
hope to do it
again in the
future but you
can always check
it out at
slipnet.org
and yeah
and I've been
on a couple
RFA episodes
I've been on
a BinRev episode
I've been on
Default Radio
and if you
want to you
can go to
slipnet.org
slash files
you can check
out the old
PowerPoint presentation
which actually
talked a lot
about all these
shows that were
going on at the
time and the
talk was mainly
about awareness
and all the
people that were
out there trying
to spread awareness
and the various
methods that they
were using and
how hackers have
evolved to a
next level of
communicating other
than BBS's now
it's just open
forum and
conversation shout
cast and
mb3 and all
that stuff so
and that's a
great segue
thank you slip
appreciate it
great segue
to a lot
of other
shows that
are out
now and
again download
that presentation
absolutely it's
got links to a
lot of that
stuff but it
actually has
kind of snowballed
since then with
with BinRev
Radio and as
you can already
tell from the
way the show
is going so
far I don't
have to do
much I mean
I get great
people to come
on and do
the talking and
I just stand
back and act
like I did
something so
it's kind of
snowballed a lot
of shows have
since come up
so many and
we've always you
know again I
believe very
strongly in
internet as
a medium to
to get it's
kind of our
last and I'm
not going to
get on a
soapbox and
preach or
anything but
it's last place
where you can
say whatever you
want to say
you can say
fuck snitch
shot pussy
whatever you
want to say
make up words
like I just
did you can
say them
and fuck
shit snot
cock pussy
I don't know
what to say
what are the
seven words
I don't know
but you can
say not only
the language
but you don't
do it just
because you
like to say
oh look I'm
cool I said
the F word
you know
whatever
but you can
actually go
into rants
and talk about
things and I
don't have to
worry about my
show getting
taken off the
air I don't
have to worry
about losing
advertisers I
ain't making
no money
I'm paying
out my nose
for the bandwidth
for this show
we have at
our peak had
somewhere around
7 or 8 thousand
downloads of each
weekly show
so a lot of
people I hope
are enjoying
the show
and getting
a lot out
of it
and we've
been doing
it every
week we
have never
missed an
episode that's
the story and
I'm sticking
to it
there were a
couple delayed
was there
some technical
difficulties along
the way but
we for the
most part made
the show and
so many shows
have also come
up since then
many of them
that I also
listen to I
don't know if
anybody else is
out there maybe
by show of
hands I'm a
programmer for a
living so I
sit behind code
all day long
I'm a code
monkey I sit
there in my
headphones and I
listen I need
something to
listen to so
we support and
want other
people to make
shows it's
something we've
always done I've
been on in the
now I've been on
RFA I've been on
all these shows we
all help each other
out it's a very
supportive community
and that's one of
the things I really
want to emphasize
is it's a whole lot
of fun oh yeah
it's a blast so
yeah we we have
created one of our
sites you might have
seen the logo
scroll by at some
point DDP hack
radio all hacking
all the time 24
hours it's streaming
we have actually
scheduled shows
binary revolution
radio comes out
every Tuesday at
I don't even know
what time our show
comes out Tuesday
night 930
there you go
every Tuesday 930
to 11
there you go and
we have certain
shows in certain
slots and then now
there's base net
there's several shows
we have a whole
scheduling grid and
when they're not
playing the last
four or five episodes
of each show will be
played in reruns
some speeches some
of the talks that we
can download and put
on mp3s we're
working on putting
some other stuff
up there content
wise so all that
out there and not
only that but we
have a site
hackermedia.org
which is run by
super droops if you
saw droops flying
along there he's
and actually that's
only growing a
redesign should be a
relaunch of that
site completely soon
and that has links to
several different
technology hacking and
non-related non
hacking just very all
technical related
stuff that might be
of interest to
hackers so
hackermedia.org and
ddphackradio.org if
you're interested you
might check those
out and follow up
with some of those
so started off the
show focusing on
technology we've
done for I guess
it's better to just
give some examples
we've done episodes
on rainbow tables
we've done episodes
on SQL injection
we've done episodes
on different
operating systems
different security
tools I mean we've
done 156 episodes
before now so
anything you might
be interested in
we've probably done
at least some episode
on it or we'll be
doing something on
the future and
that's where if
anybody wants to be
on the show or has
something that we
think we've missed
by all means get in
touch with us we'll be
glad to put people on
the show and that's
the kind of turn that
we've really taken with
the show in season
three when Black
Ratchet took over so
why don't you talk a
little bit about what
you've done with season
three I did stuff with
season three
Black Ratchet ladies
I don't even remember
what it was right but
it was well I forced
it on you well no you
didn't force it on me
around March Stank you
know calls me up and
says hey you know real
life is rearing its ugly
head would you be
interested in taking over
the show and I said
me what's wrong with
you and I always have
little things cropping
up at the last minute
so I suggested that
myself and Strom
Carlson take it over
and Stank was
apprehensive about it
but we took it over
and we took it over
and we ran it for a
full season or three
quarters of a season
until I had to
run off
real life
got real life
shook its little hand
and I got a ring on my
finger and I'm married
now so
I had to give it up
but I had a good
excuse
god apparently you
don't know me
so yeah I mean the
changes to really we
kept mostly to the
original format
Stank the only thing
like the three he said
the three things you
need to do is you need
to keep the theme song
do the email and
something else and I
think we did all three
I think that was one
of them
same hack time
same hack channel
that was at the outro
same hack time same
hack channel
and so
but we implemented
some things
we actually did
some live shows
and we actually did
a lot of live shows
because we were
both very bad
procrastinators
and it was
it was just
they worked out
for the most part
there was
we kind of started
to fire on all
cylinders right
toward the end
go figure
but everything
kind of worked out
and we turned it
back over to Stank
and Stank took it
over again
well I enjoyed
them
I enjoyed them
myself
and his real life
his real life
came in again
I took over here
towards the end
I was able to get
some free time
back again
to take over
while Mr. Ratchet
became Mr. Ratchet
and Mrs. Ratchet
so that was very cool
and we I guess
I was kind of going
to save the announcement
for the end
but I mean I guess
we can go ahead
and say that we are
going to continue
there's been rumors
that we were going
to end it
with this episode
of the show
and that is not
going to be the case
I have talked
with Ratchet
I've talked with Droops
and between the three
of us
and possibly some others
we all realize
that real life
does get in the way
and without going
into detail
I travel a lot
for work
and real life
comes in a lot
sometimes I just
physically can't
really record
a show easily
so between the three
of us
we're going to
keep the show
going
and we're kind
of rotate
maybe a month
on a month
off
or just fill in
whenever somebody
else can't make it
so between the three
of us
I feel confident
that we can
keep the show
going
with a little
help from
everybody out
there as well
of course
so I am happy
to announce that
and one thing
I'd like to say
is that when
listening to the
BinRev shows
I mean I did my show
there's a lot
of other shows
I've seen up there
but the one thing
I really liked
about BinRev
is that they've
actually brought
in a lot of
interesting people
to interview
so on my show
you get to hear
my voice all the time
it's nice to hear
someone new
and it's nice
to change things
up
and they've brought
some really good
people on the show
so it's a great show
come on
I'm the ebonic redneck
nobody wants to hear
me talk
my voice is not
I'm not Howard Stern
I don't have the radio
voice
I'm not
WNBC
I can't
you're mister
oh my throat
is so dry
I need some
sweet iced tea
yeah I don't have
it's New York City
where am I going to
get sweet iced tea
in this freaking town
why don't you swear
yeah I know
that's the only place
I have found it
that's the only place
he's eaten all week
so
no see no true
southerner drinks
canned
sweet tea
you have to have
fresh brewed
you get desperate
enough
okay
well I might
I might get that
desperate
we'll see
yeah
right now I don't
have a cup of
45 grams of sugar
so it's pretty good
so
tea ain't nice
and there's
look there's
how can you not
love this guy
come on
alright so
that's the future
of the show
so what are we
going to do
with the show
today
so we've given
you a little bit
of history
I'm not going
to go into
listing a whole
bunch of other
shows
they're out there
if you want
to find out
does anybody
remember the
cookie lady story
by the way
is that
anybody who's
been listening
for a long time
okay never mind
that's inside you
alright
we have
also
also stick around
we've got some
some things to hand
out towards the end
of the show
and for some
audience participation
we've got some
stuff we'll hand
out as we go
along
do you see that
spindle
stank burns
the entire
porn collection
oh
and this
this is a
20th
if you've seen
what's on the
screen
wait till you
see what's on
the DVD
yeah
well and
you know
it's all
bukkake
front
Natus
introduced us
all to
bukkake
so
you gotta
thank Natus
for that
no
they got
prawn on the
internet
there's your
prawn
that's as
close as
you can get
so
and actually
prawn's a topic
for the show
there's nothing
wrong with a little
prawn
in moderation
you know
that's what
they make
anyway
every five
minutes
yeah
exactly
that's what
they make
lube for
well
there's one
other show
there's one
other show
I do want
to mention
and that's
a show
that Not Theory
and I
developed
mostly Not Theory
I just kind of
stood along
and went
yeah that's cool
that's cool
and that show
was Freak Factor
which was
something else
when BinRed
was kind of
taking off
we kind of
didn't really
it was very
rigid and structured
and had a set
format to it
and we kind of
wanted something
a little bit
more freestyle
and
I tend
I tend to
stick to the
hacking topics
I'm not a
phone freak
everything I've
learned about
freaking has been
from these guys
which is
a lot from
them
but you know
that's not
my forte
so
one thing
I did
always
I've always
appreciated
the freaking
subculture
for lack
of a better
word
you know
the things
that freaks
find interesting
so
Freak Factor
I thought
was a great
idea
it was
the world's
first
reality
what was it
yeah
world's first
internet hacking
reality show
and
it sounds
like somebody
over here
has listened
to it
how many
people here
have heard
this show
show
oh
wow
man
you're all
correct
you guys
don't know
the cookie
lady story
but you've
listened to
Freak Factor
where is
that show
not there
I think
I lost
it
the cookie
lady story
oh please
do you really
want to hear
the cookie
lady story
quick
well it's not
that much
of a story
I mean I wish
I could tell
you that I
laid the pipe
or something
but there's
not
that doesn't
go that far
unfortunately
you could just
lie like
anybody else
would
oh yeah
okay
yeah
oh yeah
we did it
lots of times
it was great
no my
2600 meeting
that I attended
in Fort Lauderdale
had a
everything
I called it
the everything's a cookie
store
I don't know why
because all they
sold is cookies
so they're the same
girl that always
seemed to work in the
cookie store
every time we had
our meeting
so I'd walk over
to the everything's a
cookie store
and I'd just
mack on the girl
practice my social
engineering skills
which is something
you should do
anytime
everywhere
whatever you're
no matter who
you're talking to
just try to talk
try to get information
just practice
social engineering
so I'm over there
I'm macking on this
girl
she's a hot
chick
but I'm over
there macking
but after about
two meetings
down there
she started to
hook me up
with some free
cookies and free
food
so every time
I would go
there
first thing
I'd go over
there
and get a
bag of cookies
so our 2600
meeting
always had free
cookies
from the
everything's a
cookie store
so when I
left
the cookie
girl was nice
enough to make
me that cookie
that will
rotate around
again
because I was
moving
which is why
I turned the
show over to
Black Ratchet
so she made
me that nice
cake saying
goodbye
which was
very nice
of her
and then I
made the
pie
no it's a
joke
I did not
for the record
no
because she
might
no she'll
never see
this
but if she
did
so I'm
sorry
anyway
freak
factor
anyway
freak
factor
yeah we
kind of
wanted to
do something
free form
and like
you guys
said it
was pretty
free form
we just
you know
we kind of
by free form
you mean
call
Walmart
PA
well that
was kind
of the
problem
let's call
Walmart
15 times
an episode
and try to
get on
the intercom
yeah
are we on
the intercom
I don't
know
let me hang
up a
call back
I think
we are
did you hear
that click
I think
we just
got hung
up on
this is
awesome
for those
who haven't
listened to
the show
we accidentally
it was
originally supposed
to run
from like
9 till
midnight
or something
and we
weren't
going to
tape it
yeah
and we
let it
run one
night
till about
5 a.m.
because
everyone
forgot to
shut it
off
and there
were people
on at
5 a.m.
still trying
to call
one of the
Walmarts
oh
jeez
yeah
so
anyway
so we
did it
for a
couple of
weeks
or did
we do
it
for a
couple
of months
no
we did
it
several
months
it
went
like
15
12
15
episodes
somewhere
in that
range
yeah
too long
but the
funny thing
is at
first when
we started
doing it
people like
this is the
worst show
ever
it's terrible
everybody
listen closely
okay listen
closely
to this
part of
story
it can't
last
there's no
reason to
have it
on the
air
horrible
and then
as soon as
we decided
you know
what
nobody likes
the show
we'll take
it all
we got
letter
where's
freak
factor
how am I
supposed to
call
Walmart
that's
just kind
of
annoying
do we
still
get
letters
about
it
I
don't
know
hopefully
by now
it's
died
out
I
miss
it
personally
you know
I miss
it too
had I not been
banned from
New Phone
we would still
have the show
if anybody
wants to
donate
enough
terminations
hey there
you go
why don't
you
yeah
if anybody
wants to
give us
D.I.D.s
for the show
we'll put it
back online
and have
the weekly
clusterfuck
that's fine
by me
I think
we're
allowed
to use
that kind
of potty
mouth
that's a
good idea
I already
work at
Walmart
that would
be the
one
that would
be the
one episode
that they
don't call
Walmart
let's call
Rite Aid
let's call
Lowe's
dude
see
hackers are
the type
of people
that would
still sit
there and
try to get
on the
intercom
at Walmart
instead of
walking over
to the
intercom
at Walmart
and saying
what they
want to
say
so
Freak Factor
coming back
soon
you know
like I
said
all we
need is
D.I.D.s
we can
get it
back online
but I'm
too lazy
to search
I've
been banned
from a
whole
bunch
of
providers
at this
point
it's not
worth it
for me
yeah
we've
exhausted
a lot
of our
efforts
so if
anybody
does
have
any
suggestions
we'd
be
glad
to hear
those
as well
so
let's
see
here
we are
now the
show runs
for an
hour and
a half
normally
that's why
we're on
it's the
last show
at the
end of
the day
here
end of
the night
I should
say
is because
we run
an hour
and a half
every week
actually
we originally
started
to do
and it
was going
to be
a one
hour
show
because
we were
putting
this
in a
rotation
on
Rant
Radio
another
great
site
if you
but I
digress
so
probably
the second
or third
episode
we realized
that we
talked too
damn much
we're not
going to be
able to
contain
ourselves
in one
hour
so
because
we end
up
rambling
and going
off into
these
stories
you know
how about
the
I can
do the
deadly
halon story
if anybody
remembers the
deadly
halon story
because that's
that's really
one of my
I love
telling the
story
I'm
going to
tell the
deadly
halon story
I used
to work
does anybody
know the
deadly
halon story
they've
heard the
radio
episode
good
so a lot
of you
haven't
heard it
so this
is going
to be
great
I got
okay
hold on
I'm going
to I'm
going to
come down
here
I'm going
to come
down
and well
I want
to make
sure I
act it
out
and give
it due
justice
all right
so I
work I'll
start here
I used
to work
third shift
which I'm
sure a lot
of hackers
can relate
to that
I worked
third shift
for a
we'll call
it a computer
company
general terms
doing third
shift
operations
which means I
was a tape
monkey
now I'm a
code monkey
I'm a monkey
it doesn't
matter what
so my
job was
pretty much
come in
third shift
and they
literally told me
it's a dream
job if you
actually sit
back and think
about it
they actually
literally told me
you can sleep
we don't care
just make sure
those tapes
get swapped in
so I went in
I had the
timex data link
watch which was
uber elite
tapes would take
you load six
of these tapes
this was an old
mainframe
or actually an old
as400 which is
what I presented
at hope last year
load these six
tapes up there
tape cycle takes
almost an hour
on the dot
that's pretty
convenient
bam every hour
set my alarm
so I'd be asleep
bring in my
pillow and my
blanket
boss didn't even
care as long as
I got the stuff
done
so and I was
going to college
at the time
I was working
some day jobs
at the time
etc etc
so I'm pretty
exhausted
I come in there
load my tapes
up do a couple
other parts of
the job
run some stuff
and load the
six tapes up
then I'd head
back in the
office
bam out go the
lights
the only thing
I got is the
dim green
green and black
glow which is
where I have
that whole
connection to
black and green
that everybody
hates
and I'd be
there asleep
and then I'd
hear the beep
beep beep
you know
my watch would
go off
and I'd get
up
I'd walk
in
swap out
six tapes
put the other
six tapes
go back in
and I'd go
to sleep
so I'm
actually out
there
and I hope
the camera
can keep
with me
here
I'm actually
out
in the
room
now
I was
gosh
I'm old
now
we'll leave
it at that
but I was
probably
20-ish at
the time
21
somewhere around
that range
I hadn't
seen heavy
metal computers
I hadn't
seen a room
full of big
servers
I'd seen
racks and
stuff like
that
but I'd
never seen
these big
heavy metal
mainframes
and stuff
like that
so I was
kind of
intimidated
by the
whole thing
and to
make it
worse
inside this
data center
which was
uber cool
raised floors
pressure sensors
all this
bullshit
in the
floor
I didn't
know what
any of
this stuff
was
and
I find
myself
always
wondering
in the
back of
my mind
on the
inside of
every one
of the
doors
was a
sign
that said
warning
deadly
halon
I don't
know what
the fuck
halon is
I never
heard of
halon
before
I never
even seen
these big
things
who has
halon
like I've
got that
in my
house
somewhere
you know
so I
don't
know what
halon
is
all I
know
is
a big
word
you
fuck
around
with
right
deadly
means
fucking
deadly
you know
I don't
play
when it
comes to
deadly
means
that's
your
ass
right
so
there's
this
big
sign
that says
warning
deadly
halon
and I
see
these
tanks
and the
tank's
got the
whole skull
and cross
bones
I'm
I don't
want to
get close
to that
shit
right
pipes
running up
into the
ceiling
whatever
I didn't
know what
it was
I asked
I was told
that you
know if
the things
catch on
fire
or something
the halon
kicks in
sprays
and puts
it all
out
and I
said
oh they
got the
signs
that the
halon
well if
you know
if it
happens
you just
leave
oh no
problem
with that
part of
it
so this
is what
happens
one night
I'm
in the
middle of
a cycle
my alarm
goes off
I wake
up
I'm
dragged
I mean
literally
I'm
just
got the
tapes
in my
hand
and these
tape
loaders
I don't
know if
you've
seen
they're
about
shaped
like
this
are
about
right
to
that
level
so I
walk
in
I
got
six
tapes
in
this
hand
I
pull
these
tapes
out
I
put
them
all
in
I
got
six
tapes
six
in
this
hand
I'm
getting
ready
to
away
I
took
off
I
hit
the
door
like
OJ
fucking
Simpson
BAM
I
spin
through
the
door
I
could
have
tried
out
for
the
NFL
that
night
and I
would
have
been
first
string
on
any
NFL
team
I
was
outside
running
through
the
parking
lot
before
the
tapes
hit
the
ground
I
was
scared
that's
the
only
time
in
my
life
when
I
have
been
scared
shitless
I
didn't
know
what
fuck
am I
doing
what
are
you
doing
okay
so
the
good
thing
about
this
is
self
preservation
is alive
and well
so I've
got that
going
for me
okay
so that's
cool
I
know
that I
will
save
my ass
if the
need
arises
so I'm
out there
and I'm
out of
breath
just from
telling
the
story
I
actually
was
in
a
little
better
shape
then
I'm
out
there
I
don't
know
what
to
do
I'm
sure
as
shit
not
going
back
in
that
room
I
can
tell
you
that
alarms
going
off
and
everything
I
run
over
to
another
building
that
was
also
part
of
our
property
I
get
on
the
phone
keep
in
mind
this
is
about
3
30
AM
I'm
on
the
phone
calling
up
my
boss
alarm
tell me
you
run
freaking
out
still
because I
didn't
know
what
to
go
and
my
boss
like
what
come
out
oh
no
that's
the
fire
alarm
it's
been
going
off
all
day
so
he
says
just
go
in
there
and
set
it
off
I'm
not
going
I
sat
over
there
for
a few
minutes
thinking
do I
really
like
this
job
that
much
that
I'm
going
to
go
back
in
that
building
so
yeah
I
finally
balled
up
I
go
over
pull
the
door
open
is
everything
all
right
I
don't
even
know
what Halon
smells
like
bad
ass
for all
I
know
I
don't
know
what
it
smells
like
so
I
open
it
up
I
look
in
there
the
alarms
hit
the
reset
button
tiptoe
down
into
the
room
everything
seems
fine
12
tapes
scattered
of
course
I
didn't
label
them
so
I
had
to
start
all
the
way
back
over
so
that's
the
deadly
Halon
story
that's
been
like
on
season
one
that
everybody
yeah
that's
the
funniest
thing
and
yes
another
thing
in case
you
can't
tell
I
don't
mind
telling
stories
at my
own
expense
I
realized
I
was
a
complete
chicken
shit
one
time
in my
life
I
want
that's
the
one
time
where
I
wish
I
would
pay
every
dollar
that
I
had
to
stand
above
the
whole
scene
and
watch
myself
if
there
I
wish
there
were
security
cameras
or
something
because
I
would love to have seen the look on my face because I know it was pure terror so anyway that's that story you all got to hear stank drop the f-bomb what's that you all got to hear stank drop the f-bomb that story a couple of times all right well let me see how we're doing on time here because we actually have a guest 2346 okay so we've got a little bit more time actually I want to I want to I've already been down here so I'm going to mess up the cameras here and head down and talk because we've got some other people that I want to acknowledge here and head down and talk because we've got some other people that I want to acknowledge here.
logos x.
Logos x everybody who does come to the forums binrev.com forum this is the task base.
This is the guy that's going to make sure you obey the rules don't post the dirty prawn no weightlifter pictures no goat sees no lemon party any of that shit no no no no not going to have it no tub girl no all off limits that's the bland inquisitor rule just put a tiny url he won't know for a while so um actually I see logic x a good friend of the show here
does a great show
called Anti-Meme
if you haven't seen that one
been on RFA
a few times as well
so
good to see him here
couple of guys here
from my
BinRev 407 meeting
in Orlando
if anybody ever comes
down to Orlando
down to
South Florida
Fort Lauderdale
Boca area
there's a meeting down there
that's very active
that Logos is active in
and several other people
if you ever come down to Florida
we've got several meetings
starting up there
and kind of spreading out
or if you want to start your own
I think there's actually one
here in New York
Slicko
don't talk about the meetings
the 2600 SWAT team
will kill us
oh no
see the thing is
a lot of them are combo meetings
so I mean
we don't care what they call it
you know
as long as people are meeting
with an agenda
and a positive
see like someone said earlier today
someone
said that
you know
it's just a gathering
well
you can gather anywhere
you can gather with your friends
anywhere
and talk about
your fucking
MySpace bullshit
or talk about your
you know
whatever
your blog
go cry about it
in your blog
I don't care
you know
whatever
but
working on projects
I mean
a lot of the stuff
we actually
accomplish stuff
which was one of the things
I'm the most proud of
I mean
our meetings
that
I gave a presentation
earlier today
five o'clock
somebody
got stuck
because of the plane
I had a presentation
that I gave
it was something
I made up for a meeting
I mean
I've got content
for our meetings
we give presentations
we work on projects
we do programming together
we actually work on
accomplishing something
which is really what
binary revolution
is all about
so I guess now
I'm going to get on
a soapbox a little bit
because I
because I can do that
binary revolution
is kind of
we set out
to change the mindset
of hacking
because
hackers for years
and I'm not going to
pull any punches
or kiss any ass
or anything here
but hackers for years
have been assholes
to each other
they really have
they're all a bunch
of egotistical
one up
everybody's trying to
outdo
everybody else
and we're not
we're all the same
people
we should be on
the same team
we should be
working together
we're fighting
the mass media
and some of the
stuff that they do
we're fighting
against the
the fishers
that are out there
that are getting
called hackers
or calling themselves
hackers
people out there
that are stealing
credit card numbers
and they're getting
into trouble
and committing fraud
all kinds of stuff
going on out there
we want to get away
from that kind of stuff
we shouldn't be
infighting with each other
we shouldn't be
having this whole thing
where oh well
my group is better
than your group
my show is better
than your show
no we can all
coexist
so I don't mean
to be a whole
you know
can't we all
get along
but seriously
can't we all
get fucking along
is that really
so hard
so binary revolution
we started off
with the radio show
and the forums
and everything
started off
on stankdog.com
which was just
my site
where I was
headed
I've been in 2600
I don't know
10 times
or something like that
I don't know
I would put
the articles
that I've written
on the site
for people
that download
I'd put up
forums
to discuss
them
and
it kind of
started growing
and I didn't
like the fact
that it was
on my site
so
and it's actually
racks that came up
with the name
binary revolution
racks are creative genius
the revolution
will be digitized
and that's what
we set out to do
is like
we're going to
put everything
under bin rev
and we're going
to try to get
the community
back together
no more of this
infighting
or if you do
want to get
into this
infighting bullshit
you do get
into this
infighting bullshit
get the fuck
out
and that's
kind of my
motto
I had this
little hiatus
like last year
some people know
I kind of
pulled away
because I got
a lot of shit
for the way
I run things
and I'm a
forum Nazi
and a fascist
and all this stuff
I'm sorry
no goat seat
fuck off
you don't like it
fuck off
it's that simple
so my whole
philosophy now
is
stifu
or get to foe
it's that simple
shut the fuck up
or get the fuck out
because the revolution
is going to continue
with or without you
I want it to be
with everybody
I want everybody
to be on the same
page with this
and I want everybody
to participate
even if it's just
little things here
and there
being on the radio
show
writing an article
for the magazine
we do Hack TV
a video show
we've got all these
different things
that we're doing
plus
we'll help you
promote anything else
and this is probably
a good segue
right now
to
it's not just
us and our projects
and DDP this
or whatever
we do a lot of
other things
for people
that we support
and actually
this will segue
into our
special guest
tonight
people that
we all know
I'm not going to go
over this cliche
that hacking
is about freedom
it's about freedom
of information
it's about sharing
knowledge
and sharing things
and people that are
producing stuff
for the love of it
I mean I love
hacking
I absolutely
love hacking
we won't go into
the definition
of what hacking
is
but it's
who I am
it's what I do
it's what all of us
do
so
anybody that has
a passion for
something
and they're putting
it out there
for the community
and sharing
and bringing people
together
that's the kind
of people
that we support
so we host
some websites
for people like that
we assist
in other people's
projects
I go on other
people's shows
and things like that
and our special
guest tonight
who's sitting out
in the audience
look around
there might be
somebody out there
is somebody
that I've been
a fan of
for a while
I have
I have two
I have a lot
of weakness
but I have two
glaring weaknesses
one is art
what was that
cookie lady
one is art
I can't draw
stick people
my stick people
are retarded
they absolutely
can't
I can't even
draw anything
I can't draw
a circle
with a compass
I can't do
anything artistic
and second
I can't do
anything musically
I just don't
have that skill
so I'm not
that good at it
so I have a lot
of respect
for people
who can do
those things
so some of
the graphics
that you've
seen up there
have been
from some
great people
Cypher X
who's fantastic
and does a lot
of our logos
Logan 5
who did a lot
of the design
and layout
of our magazine
and stuff like that
but there's a
musician that I've
been following
for several years
who's commonly
referred to as
the father
of nerdcore
hip hop
if anybody
doesn't know
who I'm talking
about
he's actually
the
I think
it's the
579th
most
best
rapper
something like
that
and that
person
is
rocks
no
that
person
is
MC
front
a lot
right back
there
can you
come on up
with
thanks a lot
I appreciate
it
man I'm
sweating from
counting the
podium
okay
MC front
a lot
ladies
how many
people have
already heard
of MC
front
have a seat
bud
so
now see
I told you
we'll have
actual content
not just me
ranting and
pounding and
everything but
MC front
I see
product placement
special physical
media
there we go
now some of
you who have
been listening
to the show
for several
years know
that we've
already closed
out with
some of
MC front
lot's music
that's one of
the other
things we've
done with
the show
from day
one
and you
can tell
me some
of these
people I
know that
you're
friends with
so feel
free to
help me out
with some
of these
I know
Brad sucks
is the one
that we've
used a lot
compressor
who you've
actually worked
with
compressor
which we
might actually
talk about
that I don't
know if that's
off the limits
but we might
talk about
compressor
several I
mean too
many to
listen but
several of
them have
been from
MC front
a lot
and tonight
we'll have
another special
closing number
from MC
front a lot
off that
new album
so stick
around for
that but
I thought
we'd ask
some questions
and actually
anybody that
has some
questions I'm
going to go
ahead and
start off
but if
anybody has
any questions
feel free
to jump
in
first of all
for those
who aren't
familiar
what is
nerdcore
and what
is nerdcore
hip hop
well that's
an excellent
question
I thought
you were
going to
be black
oh yeah
I meant
to be
black
for this
but then
I had a
bunch of
stuff to do
earlier today
and then
actually I
should really
just start
and say
thanks for
having me
up here
and I
like that
this convention
exists and
I'm looking
forward to
hanging out
here all
day tomorrow
and I
really kind
of love
the way
that net
radio is
shaping up
too I
love that
folks who
don't have
that sort
of cheesy
radio voice
cheesy radio
personality can
put talk
radio together
and have
like real
interest
programming
and like
people who
actually are
interested in
hacking can
talk about
hacking every
week for a
long time and
actually pull an
interesting show
off and I'm
into that
because you're
not just I
mean you're
sort of
hacking the
industry
standards
and the
whole shape
of media
at that
point not
to sound
grandiose
well but
you're doing
a similar
thing with
the whole
I mean
independent
publishing of
music has
taken off
for years
now but
with the
onset of
file sharing
and peer
to peer as
much as
they want
to bash
it that's
a very
common thing
that you'll
hear about
on the
show the
closest thing
we'll actually
get to
politics is
talking about
some of that
stuff and
the freedom
of music and
people who
you know
how is it
I mean how
do you
you have to
be able to
spend a lot
of time to
make music
I know that
how do you
pull it off
how do you
do that
sure well you
know basically
anyone who
doesn't have a
job has enough
time to make
a bunch of
music that's
that's not so
difficult getting
people to be
able to hear
it has up
until really
recently been
just like a
big pain
in everybody's
butt because
there's you
know these
companies and
they have the
deals with the
radio stations and
they mostly have
a lock on
which 20
records everybody
in the country
gets to hear
every year and
then that just
fell apart
and like out
of those 20
how many end
with Simpson
yeah you know
that music's not
interesting to
everybody but
it's interesting
to a bunch of
people and so
it made sense
for their
business model
and now all
of a sudden
they're like
anybody who's
interested in
some weird
song about
getting peed
on at a
Star Wars
convention
can email
does everybody
know that
about
we don't need
anybody who
hears that
and thinks
that that's
something that
their friends
would also
find titillating
and or amusing
can email that
to their friends
and just sort
of create a
web of music
distribution
themselves
that has
completely
subverts
the music
companies
the downside
being nobody
has to pay
to receive
email with
my song
in it
but that
ends up
working out
anyway
because you
build fans
who are
like real
fans who
didn't get
the media
push to
them on
the top
40 or
whatever
who came
to it
because
they're
naturally
interested
in being
really into
it
and then
they stop
by and
like donate
some money
or buy
a CD
or a t-shirt
all my
indie rock
friends who've
been struggling
at this
for a long
time
had told me
that the
music industry
was the t-shirt
business
and that
actually
is true
but eventually
you guys
will figure out
how to
hack into
the t-shirts
and pirate
those
and then
I'll be
out of luck
but for now
well and actually
there's a funny joke
of course we know
you're joking
there's a funny joke
on the first track
of this album
about
your somebody
releasing the album
on BitTorrent
right
well you know
it's
because this
you've all
you've put this
stuff
actually can we
back up
I don't want to
say
because I don't
know this is true
but Song Fight
was that like
the beginning
of
that was the
beginning
of the Penny Arcade
guys heard
the first song
I did on Song Fight
which was
Yellow Lasers
and then they
linked to it
which promptly
like destroyed
Song Fight's
ability to have
internet
connected to their
web server
and then
after that
a bunch of people
had heard of me
like anybody
who's ever heard
of me pretty much
it's because
Penny Arcade
picked me up
after Song Fight
Song Fight is
this great thing
if you haven't
heard of it
they invent
song titles
and then all
of these amateur
bands write songs
that have that title
so every week
they'll post like
ten songs
called Yellow Lasers
and everybody votes
on who came up
with the best song
for that name
and nobody wins
anything
it's very indie
I mean somebody wins
but you win a great
big bowl of steam
hot cup of nothing
and you've created
most of your work
how I originally found
you was also
through Song Fight
lots of great music
that we've picked up
through there
there's even
knockoff
Brunt a Little Squad
and with some other
friends of the
they're like the guys
in the second issue
of Dark Knight
who like paint
themselves like Batman
and go around
chopping the hands off
or Batmite
no
no they're not like
Batman
I would never say that
see now
that's a geek
reference
that you know
that's nerdcore
Batmite and Scrappy
should probably have
a strangling contest
with each other
well and
there's one line
one of my favorite lines
from one of your songs
is from
I believe it's from
Bragadaccio
that says
and I'm sure
everybody can relate
to this
it says
I hope I get the
recited
it says
I sap
clock cycles
from sucker MCs
as they struggle
to parse
sap clock cycles
from the sucker MCs
who else is going
to get lyrics
like that
I mean
is that not
beautiful
I mean
I sap
I mean
not like
I'm so bad
I'll pop a cap
in your ass
or I'm gonna
you know
I'm gangster
I'm gonna
shoot your mama's
baby daddy
whatever
it's
I sap
clock cycles
from sucker MCs
like you
who struggle
to parse
that's the kind
of stuff
that you know
we need to be
supporting
there's more
stuff like that
out there
come on
I don't
I mean
seriously
we got
Jessica Simpson
and all the
crap that she's
doing
and she's
shallows
he's a huge
Ashley Simpson
fan
if you ever
seen his
room
just because
I went to
the concert
I'm a fan
I've seen
the poster
in your room
don't even
go there
and the picture
under your bed
I'm just glad
he hasn't brought
up my obsession
with American Idol
you need to go
on American Idol
my mom
when American Idol
first came out
my mom
was really excited
to introduce me
she's like
you should go
on this show
you should go
and wrap
MC Fun
a lot
on this show
wouldn't that
be
maybe you could
win
first of all
I was like
already
I don't know
28 at that point
I'm like
mom this show
is for children
they only have
children on it
B
it's on Fox
the most distasteful
of media
conglomerates
and C
they would
hate me
you want to
watch people
hate your son
on national television
you did just
release an album
now like you
kind of said
releasing all
this stuff
for free
and the music
industry
and t-shirts
and stuff
like that
let's go ahead
and put this
out there
and just
be done
with it
you're selling
the album
I am now
selling a record
yeah
so but
at least half
of those tracks
are still freely
downloadable
off the website
all the old
demo versions
of them
are on the
website
the couple
of the real
tracks off
the CD
are on the
website
you can get
them all
on iTunes
and whatever
and you can
of course
pirate it
if you are
intent on
doing that
that's the
sort of
the
that's not
yeah
that's not
piracy and
hackers are not
really the
you know
so
I know
but as
music listeners
like we've
all kind of
fallen into
this bizarre
giant honeypot
of music
appearing free
on your hard
drive
if you type
it into
Google
so it's
like
we're all
casually
like borrowing
music
even if we
buy CDs
afterwards
the
jokey
first song
that you
mentioned
charity case
kind of
addresses that
it's like
in this world
where anybody
who can rub
the two
sides of their
keyboard together
actually that would be hard
anyone who could rub
two keyboards together
they have the foldable ones
we'll go with that
there we go
can get music
for free
and so if you're
selling music
you're basically
just sort of
have your hand out
you're like
please support me
by trading me
your donation
for my like
free gift CD
that you get
it's like the PBS tote bag
or something
and on a certain scale
that works out great
like my fans
are really generous
and they like to have
the you know
this thing that
you can't quite get
on BitTorrent yet
which is
this is really the extent
of the CD right now
it's just like
hello
tiny piece of paper
unpiratable
excuse me
we're not going to
call the DMCA
ink or something
that's right
your scanner will explode
but
and I'm going to
I'm going to put
MC Frontlot
on the spot right now
I'm going to commit him
to something
without his knowledge
but
you can't get it
autographed
like you can get it
tomorrow
downstairs
that's right
I will be downstairs
signing stuff
selling stuff
shaking hands
oh that's not the same
that's not the same
you think you thought of that
I was going to do that
so my hand wouldn't get tired
yeah
so we'll have
a whole stack prepared
and you don't even
have to stick around
you can just put them
on there
and I'm sure
no I'll be hanging out
if you guys want to hang out
oh and you know
as long as we're
plugging appearances
if any of you
are still in town
Sunday night
I have a show
at
Club Midway
on Avenue B
and you should check it out
it's at like
930
actually the show
starts at
830
there's two people
in front of me
they're both really good
yeah
you suck
for making it so late
because I can't make it
18 plus
I literally scheduled it
then because
I misread his email
that said
he was going to be in town
I did this show
just for you
but you guys
can benefit
at his expense
but
we are still
going to be down
there tomorrow
so come down
and hang out
chat
get some CDs
t-shirts
that kind of good stuff
but I mean
still
you've been putting up
new tracks
even since they came out
there's the
Doggy Fresh
I am always working on stuff
so there's always stuff
on the website
it's not like
you know
it's different
supporting an independent
artist who's
putting it out
at a reasonable price
you've got a reasonable
price for our special
one time offer
for the Sixth Hope
attendees
so
he says
silently
nodding his head
we'll figure that out
between tonight and tomorrow
so
but
really
it's not like
you're not going
into the store
and getting raped
for 20 bucks
for the new
why am I stuck
on
there will be
no rape involved
if you buy my record
I can
but if you put in
a couple extra bucks
almost guarantee
if you put in
a couple extra bucks
Natus will be around
okay
now
if Natus gets tired
I will step in
on an occasion
for a break
but
other than that
what do you guys
have against
that lemon party
picture
that's kind of hot
that's like
my background
on my laptop
actually
that was the
funniest episode
of Freak Factor
in my opinion
where we called
the internet
we called the internet
and there's a
what a segue
well there's a website
let me give you the background
Ron's got to hear this
I don't know if he knows
the story
you've got to tell the story
there's a website
called calltheinternet.org
and it's just a phone number
I don't know if there's
really any other content
on that site
no
I just found it
and called it
and thought it would be funny
yeah so he calls it
and you know
these guys are just like
hello this is the internet
so we really have
no idea what they're
there for
now I had
I had called this number
like for weeks
before the show
and I would just call them
just to be an ass
and go yeah the internet's slow
can you reboot it for me
just to annoy them
just over and over again
and then we decided
let's do something on the show
and see how long
we can drag them on
yeah so we keep
pushing these guys
and pushing them
and we finally ask
if they can go to
you know different websites
and then of course
lemonparty.org comes up
so
because our internet
was down
so we asked them
to read
naturally
briefly had no access
to lemon party
the content's so dynamic
we wanted to know
what was there that day
so
we mentioned the site
and there's a pause
and then all of a sudden
without really missing
too much of a beat
the guy says
well there's three
elderly gentlemen
enjoying each other's company
it was great
these guys
were the greatest sports
they were so cool
to play along
if for some reason
they see this
that was really fun
I was cracking up
laughing at that
yeah that was definitely
the best
because I think
we even pushed them
and went like
what do you mean
enjoying
how exactly
we made them go
in 10 minutes
in describing this picture
oh yeah
that was just the intro
to the description
he just kept going
and going
what do you mean
you guys can download it
we would if the website
was up
oh
maybe you can't download it
we'll work on that
oh man
how do you like them apples
well let's go back
a little bit
to music
and some of the other
artists that we supported
because I know
you're friends
with a couple of them
some of them
I mentioned earlier
like you've done
the collaboration
with Compressor
which I thought
was a great
I love that
I did that
I did that actually
he was on Song Fight
around 2000
and I was on Song Fight
2001
and he wrote me
an email
and he's like
demanding a collaboration
you guys know
who Compressor is
nobody's too young
to remember Compressor
and he
the whole time
we did the collaboration
he would not
break character
on Compressor
all the emails
were like
in all caps
with no punctuation
like
is good vocal
now to make
more synthesizer
in part
two
you know
and
and we did
the whole track
that way
and I did
I had no
I
and I
I suppose
I should say
that I have
still have no idea
whether or not
he's just a short
bald dude from Ohio
yeah I was gonna say
isn't he from like
Indiana or Ohio
or something like that
I should say
that I still have no idea
he actually stopped by
while I was living
in San Francisco
at the time
he stopped by
on his road trip
and he had the
compressor head
in his car
of course
he like
doesn't really
like sleep
too far away
from that thing
and we took
a picture
like across the street
from my house
and he put it
put it on
and he crushed
an American donut
oh and for anybody
who doesn't know
it's compressor music
dot com
I think with a K
compressor music
dot com
I believe
something like
you type compressor
in the internet
you'll find him
eventually
you can call
the internet
and ask them
yeah
now
is he still around
do you keep in touch
with him
ever since then
yes
I keep in touch
with him
and he does
tons of different
internet stuff
not his compressor
oh he broke character
finally
he has
bizarre
like
issues
surrounding people
knowing what he does
kind of like
a bunch of the people
in this room
and those three guys
from the NSA
in the back
who like
slink down in their seat
when you point at them
homeland security
on the right
yeah everybody's got issues
so
that's okay
I respect that
I didn't want my face
on the internet
for like three years
of four years
of doing MC Frontalot
yeah you were
you actually had that
on the page for a while
that you were proud
of the fact that
there were no pictures
if you used to search
for Frontalot
MC Frontalot
there were no pictures
out there
it's not true anymore
yeah for years
you couldn't
couldn't find out
what I looked like
just by casually
checking the internet
I was proud of that
because people would
stick it on their blogs
I'd do live shows
and they'd put pictures
up and stuff
and I would write
them a nice letter
like I think it's funny
that nobody knows
and they would take it off
but I found out
eventually that
the legitimate press
has no interest
in people
with no faces
names
or dates of birth
so I just gave up
on all that
decided I'd rather
like occasionally
be covered
in the Lawrence
Kansas journal world
you know
well how
now you also do
you mentioned earlier
the Penny Arcade
you go do Penny Arcade
Expo every year
as well right
oh yeah
big nerd conventions
Seattle
it's a lot of fun
it's all gaming
basically
gaming oriented
I know a lot of people
here
I saw somebody playing
what is it
World of Warcraft
World of Warcrack
is that what they call it
over there earlier
so yeah
I think you've got
a lot of crossover
crowd here
so
Risk
is that like Risk
hey we're going to
play a little
Texas Hold'em
after the show's over
if anybody wants
to stick around
for some of that
I brought some
Texas Hold'em
with us
so play a little
hacker celebrity
poker
you know how to
play Texas Hold'em
oh yeah
alright see
there you go
are we celebrities
you can beat
MC Frontlot and
Bragg to all your
friends
can we get a CD
oh goody
yeah I'll put up
a CD
as my steak
rough
oh man
rough crowd
huh
I should have a tie on
so I can kind of
adjust it
I think you're making
MC Frontlot
great character here
now you've got to
finish that 40
for that comment
it was going to be
the one convention
I went to this year
where nobody yelled
chug chug
or where somebody
didn't bring up
Lemon Party
I knew that was
good
alright so
wait here
rank these in order
how's this for a
fucked up impromptu
question
Lemon Party
Tub Girl
Goat Sea
and the Weight Lifter
uh oh
wait
call up the Weight
Lifter
oh no
I can't do that
to these
hold on
I can't do it
I can't do this
I gotta take it off
are we off of there
okay
let me
dude hold on
what
hold on
is there just
something surreal
that I'm going to
show MC Frontlot
a picture of
of the most
disgusting thing
I've ever seen
in my life
there's basically
no chance
I haven't seen it
before
everyone go to
their happy place
let's see
sad girls in snow
uh oh
I don't know if we
have interweb in
here
oh yeah you know
what
owned
call the internet
I disabled my
interweb
you do not want
this
actually can we
just call the
internet
this is an act
of god
he's saving you
all right now
are you
can actually do
the internet
I'll just call
411
they'll know the
internet
call 311
they'll read it
for you
no problem
yes
okay first of all
let's do
yeah meat spin
is not going to
work
I can just rank
you chat while I
bring up the
prank are you
plugged in
do you guys want
to hear some
rapping I could
do some rapping
I brought I
brought this thing
oh yeah this is
DJ CPU version
0.3 alpha
let's see here
how's that can
you hear that
that would be
meat spin
meat spins
pretty high
okay
we're still not
up there right
I don't want
to totally
you didn't
you didn't hear
50 people
scream and
cringe and
I think we're
okay
go ahead
I'm gonna
unplug the
audio so it
doesn't
I was gonna
do the
porn song
since we're
on the
topic
if you guys
want to hear
it
you guys
still want
to hear
it
just got
hard pressed
underneath my
desk
no jest
it's time
from the
lie
confessed
it
the best
of times
got the
worst
of rhymes
I don't
think
I'm
the worst
of my
life
devoted
less to
lyrics
than it
is
to
my
struggle
for
pyrrhic
victory
in the
race
to be
the
interwebs
number
one
devotee
of
smutty
little
things
that
recur
on screen
a
risk
gator
hay
quintuplex
obscene
milfs
who shaved
themselves
so cleanly
twins
in positions
unseemly
my spleen
ain't the part
that gets
vended
I grabbed
a hold
and fapped
like a
minute
descended
probably
ought to
leave
it alone
spend
more time
stroking
on the
microphone
got a
boatload
of midgets
and they're
in command
of a
full grown
woman
on her
knees
and hands
got a
donkey
and a
farm girl
too
and the
brain
so dismaying
when he
starts to
spoo
I usually
have backup
singers
for that part
you gotta
click
close
put it
away
because
the
internet
is
f-i-l-t-h-y
that
is
f-i-l-t-h-y
should I do
the second
verse
yeah
let's
speed it up
a little
lurking in
past chance
on the
IRC
got DCC
doesn't expect
to leave
within it
ah dude
the mic's a
little off
looking in
past chance
on the
IRC
I got DCC
done
unexpectedly
with an
80 minute
X-FID
none's in
heat
part 3
bad habits
I'm so elite
that I had
that one
already
skipped to
the part
with the
fishnet
teddy
whipped it
out
but to
my
chagrin
one toss
from a
win
when the
boss
walked
in
said
nuh-uh
front
that
terminal
ain't
for a
latex
crucifix
spanking
a taint
in big
32-bit
color
while them
rosary beads
gets yanked
out
the
cruller
I said
you can't
fire me
I quit
opened up
the case
yanked out
the hard
disc
absconded
all with
the data
in hand
31 years
of hustler
scans
plans for
how to
construct a
love swing
all dot
binaries
dot
everything
archive
sent
spring
a
nine
to
two
receipt
from
our
real
doll
stripper
shoes
tools
for
an
online
poll
I ran
vote
once
and boy
is that a
crappy place
for hope
to stop
recording
again I
don't know
why but
right in
the middle
of MC
front lot
doing a
live rap
they decided
to stop
taping
or I
don't even
know what
happened
equipment
failure
laziness
could have
been
anything
several
people
checked
their
copies
of the
DVD
and it
all
ended
at the
same
place
so I
guess
that's
all you're
going to
get
unfortunately
for this
episode
I'm going
to see
if I can
dig up
one other
source
of audio
but I
don't have
a whole
lot of
faith that
that's
going to
come
through
either
and even
if it
did
it probably
would be
very
limited
audio
quality
so I
guess
that's
going to
have to
do it
for this
episode
now all
in all
the
hope
conference
itself
was
pretty
fun
I
did
another
presentation
actually
an
impromptu
presentation
so there
were some
I guess
weather
problems
and some
speakers
were not
able to
make it
in
or didn't
make it
in on
time
so I
believe it
was
five o'clock
Friday
there was
a speaker
who was not
able to
make the
time slot
so I
stepped in
and did
an impromptu
presentation
or actually
represented
something
I had
done
at
Interzone
recently
the art
of electronic
deduction
a presentation
that I had
done in front
of about
thirty people
or so
at Interzone
and in front
of a handful
of people
at both
the BR561
and again
at the
BR407
meetings
and I
think it
went even
better
at Hope
the audience
was very
receptive to
it
I made
it clear
that it
was more
of a fun
interactive
presentation
and got
a lot
of great
feedback
on that
and the
room
kind of
grew
as the
talk
went on
which was
interesting
so I
had put
a sign
up out
front
to let
people know
that there
was something
going on
so hopefully
they enjoyed
that presentation
and I
will not
be streaming
that as an
episode of
the show
because we
have talked
about it
before
and you
can download
that
and any
and all
of our
presentations
from the
websites
either
stankdog.com
or at
digitaldogpound.org
so I guess
we're going to
have to wrap
the show
up with
that
again
my apologies
I really
couldn't do
much about it
it was out
of my
hands
so
unfortunately
they either
had some
equipment
malfunctions
or just
got tired
of recording
or whatever
the case
may be
I don't
know
but
it's
personally
kind of
sad for
me even
because there
was a special
moment that
I kind of
wanted to
have on
tape
on video
for a
while
myself
and that
was
ending
the show
that I
care for
so much
and have
been sharing
with everybody
for so long
we ended
in something
that I was
really really
proud to see
and that was
closing out
the show
with our
catchphrase
that we
always end
with
and having
the entire
crowd
audience
say that
and do that
along with me
and close
the show
out
and I'm
never
going to
get to
see that
so that
kind of
sucks
so believe
me
no one's
more bummed
about this
than I am
but life
goes on
so we
are going
to close
it up
this week
and send
some shout
outs
I mean
gosh
just so
many
I don't
even know
where to
begin
shouts
to the
guys
from
fbill
radio
to
seal
stoner
savant
really
cool
guys
we
met
up
with
their
eyeball
cypress
who
was
really
quiet
dj
moses
to dr
you know
who you
are
to mc
front a lot
of course
and brandon
very cool
guys
vaguely
qualified
productions
oh wow
very very
nice people
I didn't know
what to expect
there and was
was treated
very well
in general
I mean
I met
so many
people there
so I
apologize
if I'm
leaving
anybody
off
to
Bill
over at
no starch
press
to
Jason Scott
just
everybody
that was
there
of course
the DDP
to
to Zach
and Stan
everybody
shout out
so we are
going to go
ahead and close
the show
out with
the song
that you
heard
right at
the end
of the
show
that kind
of got
cut off
that was
mc
front a lot
performing
a song
from his
new album
called
the porn
song
or the
porn song
as I
refer to
it
the porn
song
he was
doing a
live version
there
kind of
no background
no band
etc
but we are
going to
close out
with the
album version
which we also
played there
after the
show
so we hope
you enjoy
that
and I guess
I'm going to
have to do
this by
myself
this week
and tell
everybody
that we will
see you
next week
same hack
time
same
hack
channel
click
close
you've got to
click
close
just got
hard pressed
underneath
my desk
no jest
it's time
for the
life
confess
that the
best
of times
got the
worst
of rhymes
and I
don't think
I'm the
first to
find my
life devoted
less to
lyrics than
it is to
my struggle
for
pyrrhic
victory
in the race
to be
the interwebs
number one
devotee
of smutty
little things
that recur
on screen
risque
to hate
quintuple X
obscene
milk
who shape
themselves
so cleanly
twins
in positions
obscene
my
spleen
ain't
the
part
that gets
offended
I
grabbed a
hold
in fact
like
I'm in
it
descended
probably
ought to
leave it
alone
spend more
time
stroking
on my
microphone
got a
boatload
of
midgets
and
they're
in
command
of a
full-grown
woman
on her
knees
and hands
got a
long
hard
donkey
and a
farm
girl
too
and the
brain
so
dismaying
when it
starts
to
screw
you gotta
click
close
put it
away
cause
the
internet
is
F-I-L-T-H-Y
lurking in
past chance
on the
I-I-C
got D-C-C
done
expectedly
with an
eighty-minute
ex-vid
nuns
in heat
part
three
bad habits
and so
elite
that I
have
that
one
already
skipped
to the
pot
with
the
fishnet
teddy
whipped
it
out
but
to
my
chagrin
one
toss
from
a
win
when
the
boss
walked
in
said
nuh
front
that
terminal
ain't
for a
latex
crucifix
spanking
a
tank
in big
32
bit
color
I quit
opened up
the case
yanked out
the hard
disc
absconded
all with
the data
in hand
31 years
of hustler
scans
plans
for how
to construct
a love
swing
all die
binaries
dot
everything
archives
since
spring
of
92
receipt
for my
real doll
strip
of shoes
tools
from an
old
Polaran
boat
once
tub
girl
or
goats
and man
go
lands
galore
explore
for hours
diaper
playing
Roman
showers
glory
whole
video
deep
as it
gets
and
pegs
of an
air
such
she off
the red
capped
on the
cam
from a
hijack
feed
half a
terabyte
so what
you need
got
pennies
in the
front
pennies
in the
back
red
on
brown
on
blonde
on
black
ganged
up
tied
up
all
alone
every
delectation
to which
I'm
prone
got the
Japanese
schoolgirl
tentacle
love
got the
furries
in a
flurry
they've been
yiffing
it up
got a
craigslist
poster
trading
pool
for
pee
got a
deep
dark
dungeon
full of
hot
put it
away
cause
the
internet
is
F-I-L-T-H-Y
click
close
put it
away
cause
the
internet
is
F-I-L-T-H-Y
click
close
you got
to
click
close
backslash
on my
keyboard
step
bounce
field
don't
turn
cause
it's
all
built
dead