This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers
I see in binary, I speak source code
Step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you in a fag pose
In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho
Cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold
I was a dick with my 56
Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable
On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo
On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a Nero
In a flash, I'll screw you on burning dreamcast
You need some ISO? Let me through my hard drive rifle
Our exchange you could never stifle
In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug
I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z
Your CG, it's all gonna be free
Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely
You feel that rattle in your bones?
When I tell you we just packed out Jones
And NASDAQ leaves you flat on your back
Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack
This is dedicated to the hackers and the criminals
Serial phones, source codes, ISO, RAN, SIP, SIS
This is dedicated to...
Hello, and welcome to Binary Revolution Radio, episode 158
Season 4, episode 2, I guess it is
Today's date, August 1st, 2006
Happy August
And I'm Black Ratchet
Your show host for this evening
With me is Natus
And Savant
Yo
How's it going?
Say hi, Savant
There we go
I didn't give up
I'm old and rusty
I didn't introduce each person by themselves
I didn't introduce each person at the same time
Hey, this is my second episode this season
Woot, right?
I'm two for two
Natus is the new co-host, everybody
It's going to be the Natus show
I would listen to a show if it was all Natus
All the time
You guys should...
Think about it
Eric, right after BinRev?
No, no
The only way I would watch a Natus show
Is if it was a video show
So I could just see him, you know
Hanging with his silly, crazy Gumby gold
Like Reality Night TV
Oh, man
There we go
Natus TV
We're going to have to shoot this at the conference
We know what we're going to do
We're going to shoot at DEF CON
Three or four episodes all at once
And it'll just be the best of
Natus goes gambling
Loses his shirt at the blackjack tables
No, I'm not winning
Actually, well, for...
I got to be positive
Yeah
For blackjack, it's...
I mean, I walked out of there
And I won, like, tons of...
Well, I didn't want a ton of money
My friend did
But I won shit
And I was like, wow
This is actually
Not that bad
Yeah, it was awesome
Yeah, it kind of makes up
For all the money I lose
On, uh...
Slots
Yeah, definitely
I don't play the slots
Yeah, slots
Slots will just suck your money right out
Although, the true story
The first time I went gambling
I went with my
Well, my then-girlfriend
Now Mrs. Ratchet
And, um...
We went down to Foxwoods
Which is in Connecticut
It's a casino
Run by the Indians
You know, we stole their land
But we gave them casinos
So it's all good
And, um...
Like, I had no clue
How to do slot machines
So...
I see it as
You know, three coins
And, you know, 75 cents
And I'm like, oh, shit
Well, that's kind of expensive
And I didn't know
Like, you could put me
Like, 25 cents
50 cents
Then 75 cents
So I'm sitting there
I'm popping in 75 cents
75 cents
And...
All of a sudden
I win
And it's like, you know
Like, 50 bucks
So, like, I'm sitting
Yeah, it was crazy
It was amazing
And she's, like, sitting right next to me
Like, you did not just do that
And I'm like, oh, yeah
I'm playing those 75 cents slots
So it's, like, a lot more
You know, you could insert, like, a quarter at a time
And it'll be a whole lot cheaper
And your money will stay longer
Oh, really?
I was like, oh
That was a slots noob
Yeah, but, you know
Every noob has his day
Yeah
Yeah, that was my
I think, like
I actually won, like
Quite a bit of money
I think I
I think I won, like
I was up $100 in the night
On slot machines
Which is just unheard of
Hey, would
Would you be my pony at DEF CON?
Can I bet on you winning?
I'm not going to DEF CON, though
Unfortunately
I'm a noob
No, well, it was actually pretty funny
Because I
You know, I won, like, $100
And I was feeling pretty good about myself
And then I realized that
I had a class
Because I was in college
And I was like
Oh, shit, that's two $50 books
So
Nice
Basically, the next day
I bought two Cisco books
For $50 each
Because it was a Cisco class
And I was like
Oh, crap
Easy come, easy go
Right
I was at the casino in Montreal
A couple weeks ago
And $125 on craps
In about, like, 20 minutes
When did you come and do a crop, though?
Uh, I don't know
Don't worry about it
Alright, well
Every time I go to Vegas
The only gamble is that
I'll actually have money when I leave
I mean, other than that
Because, you know
There's beer to drink
I mean
It's just how it is
Yeah, important things first, man
Yeah, that's what it is
Right?
Priorities
So next week should be fun, though
It always is
It's DEFCON
Yeah, I'm not
Yeah
Seriously, I'm
I'm
It's
What are we talking about this episode, though?
What are we talking about this episode?
Actually, we're just going to talk about DEFCON the entire time
We're like, man, can't wait for DEFCON
I'm not going
Right
Yeah, that's what I want to be
Actually, this episode is the Hope Wrap-Up episode
Last week you had the Hope episode
But we didn't actually talk about Hope that much
Which I find quite ironic, myself
So, you know
Yeah, that's what this is for
We're going to talk about Hope
And Hope's cool
And however we want you to go
And if you didn't go
You're a noob
Yeah, seriously
But, um
Missed out
Yeah
Anyway, for those of you listening to the show
We all, last week
We hoped you enjoyed it half as much as we did making it
So, it was actually pretty cool
Everyone was sitting there
And chat-chatting away
And Frontalot was there
It was pretty neat
I didn't really say much, though
I said about two things the whole show
Yeah, you didn't say much, man
At least I was, like, playing with, like
I played up with the snide comments
You know, I was like
Oh, man, I'm not going to talk at all during this episode
Unless I make rude comments, so
I stepped up
Good job
You know, this week we're actually more or less back to normal
I'm doing the show this week
However, next week and the week after that
And for a while
Droops will take it over for a bit
I'm not sure if we're going to do a DEFCON special next week
Is Droops going to DEFCON?
Does anyone know?
Uh, I don't think he is
Because it's real life
Oh, real life
Sucks
Wait, what's that?
I think Drew's got some real life stuff, so he's not going to be there
There's no Wikipedia entry for real life
Oh, okay
I'm going to check that right now
That's not going to do
Right, 404
Um, no
Like right now I'm actually going to
There is?
Yeah
I'll see, because I just made it
Because it's Wikipedia
That was, yeah, right
Someone's listening
Poof
Yeah, we're not live, by the way
There's not going to be call-ins
They don't try to call in
There's no
888-9-BINREV
Nonsense like that
Yeah, we're acting
Yeah
We're not hackers
But we play one on BINREV Radio
I'm not going to dictate the entire article
If you want to see it
Go to Wikipedia and type in real life
It was a first for me, too
I'm actually going to have to check that out during the show
I don't know
Okay, well, cool
I just didn't want to ramble
Sounds good to me
So
Oh, actually, before we go
Well, we are rambling already
So I think we should all go into email right now
Our first email tonight comes from El Jefe
For those of you who are pronouncing it in America
El Jefe
Dear Stank Dog
Please add the telephonic craptacular episode 156.5
Of BINERY REVOLUTION RADIO
To the BINERY REVOLUTION RADIO
Which ran on DDPHACK RADIO stream
July 18, 2006
To the archive directory
My collection just won't be complete without it
The last three years of shows
Have been very informative and entertaining
Thank you for continuing to produce new shows
Sincerely, El Jefe
Dear God, what the hell was that?
I don't know what the heck that was
Either we just got hit with an artillery strike
Or someone has some leftover 4th of July fireworks
Was that at your house?
Yeah, it was crazy, man
I just saw this really bright fashion
Just just, boom
I was like, what the fuck was this?
It was crazy
I was like, Jesus
I'm hiding under my desk now
Maybe it was El Jefe
Maybe it was
Well, we don't even know what the episode
He doesn't even know what the answer is
So imagine what he's going to do
When he actually finds it out
Alright, so that happened about like
10 minutes into the episode
So we'll just have to edit that out
Anyway, El Jefe
It's out there
It's in certain places
Certain people have it
But I think Stank wants to keep it as an Easter egg
So if you want to add it to your own personal collection
Find it yourself
That or, you know
Bother Stinky
So
Even if you're going to be at DEF CON this week
Go bother him there
Because he's going to be there as well
Alright, our next email is from
Manuel O'Kelley
Or O'Kelley?
O'Kelley?
I guess it's kind of like an Irish name
Ah, it looks like O'Kelley
O'Kelley, yeah
I was inspired by Senator Stevens' net neutrality speech
So I slapped together a little nerd hop MP3 remix of his speech
It is actually the first Fruity Loops work I have ever done
So I hope it's not horrible
Manuel O'Kelley
And I was like, oh, cool
And I'll go and actually download this
However, I looked at the email
And there's no attachment
There's no link
And I sat there scratching from my head for like 15 minutes
Going like, what gives?
Well, man, well, if you want to resend it back in
Either directly to me or to Droops
Or just send it to radio at pinrev.com
We're always looking for closing music
So, you know, send it in
Get your 15 seconds of fame
You know, be famous for a while
We'll give you shouts
We'll give you props
And everything else
So, come on, send
Yeah, you've got to include the file, though
Yeah, I was like, no
I was like, oh, sweet
Because they actually did something similar on Hope
Where they remixed everything
And the internet's tubes
And they were like, you know
Wrapping it all up and everything
Okay
Does everyone
I think I'm the only one personally
Who thinks that the internet is a bunch of tubes
Am I the only one who doesn't think this?
Or does think this besides Senator Stevens?
If I admit to this now
Then I may also be admitting to years of Freudian therapy
After seeing the shirts at Hope
With the fallopian tubes
I had no official comment at this time
I don't know
I just like the whole
The internet is tubes
Well, yeah, it is
I mean, I think he's kind of using it in the wrong context
But yeah, I think I agree with that
Okay
Yeah, he's making it sound like
He's talking to toddlers, though
Right
Well, maybe that's how it was explained to him
Well, maybe, yeah
Senator, the internet is full of tubes
Oh, that sounds like a good soundbite
I'll go use that
Owned
No
Yeah
Anyway, our next email is from Circuit
Which I actually, like
For the longest time when I was looking at this
I always thought it was pronounced secret
But then I realized that the R and the K were reversed
So I guess it's Circuit
I'd like to begin and state that I'm a frequent listener of the Binrev
Stankdog, I saw your Hope 5 speech on TN3270
Thanks for clarifying its basic functions
Thanks for providing a resource that I can listen to at binrev.com radio
When I need a break from the normals and their textbook knowledge
I think it should be mandatory that passing lockpicking, cryptography, and endmap scanning tests
Should be a requirement for all IT workers
Peace out, Circuit
Thank you for your time and patience
Have a nice day
So, the thank you for your time and patience and have a nice day
Really made me go, what?
Me too
I thought, oh, you wrote that in there
No, no, that was part of the email
I thought that was your comment back
I'm looking at the thing right now
And I was just like, huh
It was sort of like talking to an IVR menu or something
It's like four things down, too
Four lines down from the piece out
Actually, speaking of IVR menus
I'll kind of save this for my personal hacking stories
But I didn't write that in
So I'm just going to have to remember that in my head
And hopefully it won't fall out between now and then
So, thanks, Circuit
And always great to have fan mail
And I'll make sure
StankDog's probably seen it
So just because we're reading it doesn't mean that he won't
Because he's all into, you know, keeping the passwords and the infos or the email accounts
So he occasionally checks it
And I'll make sure he sees this
I don't know
What's up with him saying that they should all have to pass a lockpicking test?
You're just fearing because you can't pick locks
I don't know
I guess it'd kind of be an interesting thing
I agree with, like, you know, basic security and map and all that kind of stuff
That doesn't actually
That actually kind of makes sense
Lockpicking?
Well, I mean, in my IT career
I've only had to lockpick once for a
For a valid actual, you know, task
Where
Someone
It could have been me
It could have been one of my coworkers
Lost the, you know, the chassis intrusion key
For a computer
And they have to be locked
So I'm like, oh, I bet I could open this
And half an hour later
I actually did manage to open it up
So I was like, yeah, I'm actually a rock
Of course, I don't know my rock sword
You said you screamed, I'm a rock sword, didn't you?
I was screaming, yeah, bitches
Yeah, how do you like that, huh?
Huh?
Your past keys can't save you now
I've had to use it
Actually, last year after DEF CON
When I missed the SensePost talk
Just to freaking learn how to pick locks
I come back from DEF CON
A couple days later
And I'm all excited
Because I want to see my roommate
Because I haven't seen him in a couple days
And want to tell him all this cool new stuff I learned
And he's at work
Because it's Monday
And my house keys are still inside
So after about 20 minutes
Of swearing, cursing
And shaking my fist at the sky
I remembered I had a lockpick in my bag
So two minutes later
I was in the AC
Nice
Now it has nothing to do with my IT work
But hey, it sure as hell came in handy
Actually, I didn't have a lockpicking sec
I just used two
Two
What is it?
Paperclips
That's the word I'm looking for
One of those complicated words
And I picked the lock
And I was like, yeah
Of course, it wasn't like any type of
You know, great, insane master key
It was also like
It was
You know, HP Vectra
Chassis Intrusive Lock
Which was
Probably like bought
Like at five cents
At some Malaysian market
Was it a wafer lock
Or was it like a padlock?
Hmm?
Was it a wafer style lock
Or was it a padlock?
It was a
I believe it was a wafer lock, actually
Oh, okay
I think
I don't know
I always get those confused
Mainly because I don't
Pack locks that often
Because it's
I never took a test
To become an IT worker
For
All that stuff
For lockpicking
We'll call it
The Dark Dante
Hacker Test
Yeah
I'm here for the ESS
Right
Oh, Nattish, man
I thought you were going to
Like, you know
Completely like go on
And say
Oh, the ESS
Is located on the fifth floor
I was waiting for you
I see
Because like
No, you do it like
Infinitely better than I do
Okay
Anyway
So that sort of
Wraps it up for email
We didn't actually get
Too much email
Or that
Or my
Email client
Wasn't downloading
The things correctly
Who knows
So let's go into
Personal hacking stories
So
Well
I guess technically
The personal hacking story
We all have
Is that
We all went to Hope
Yeah
We somehow pulled that off
Yeah
Down in New York City
Yeah
New York City
The big app
So how was your hotel
Hey, how was your hotel
Black Ratchet
Dude, my hotel rocked
Because the hotel
Pennsylvania
That was the first time
I stayed there
And it really sucks
No, no
It wasn't worse than that
I imagine hell
To be
Only marginally worse
Than the hotel room
That we had
I will admit
Going into the hotel
Pennsylvania
I was not impressed
Yeah
I can now see why
They like catered
To hacker conventions
Because you know
Everything's broken already
What else can they do
I mean
I don't know
The lobby's nice
And everything
It looks good
But
Elevators have TVs
It's also
Yeah
The friggin TV elevators
Yeah
I got to find out
That
What was going on
I don't know
I think it was like
You know
Some stock was up
And they had good
Profit reports
And I was like
Yeah
Good for them
Then they got onto
The 18th floor
And I was like
I'm out of here
Yeah
The whole time
They were just
Talking about
What's going on
In the Middle East
And all that
And those things
And it was just
Really annoying
After like three days
Israel owns Lebanon
Yeah really
That's all it was
The whole time
Well no
I mean
I got onto an elevator
And it was CNBC
But they were like
You know
Every once in a while
They were talking about it
But they were actually saying
During the stay
On Friday at least
They were saying
Oh you know
Stocks are up 15%
Because they're cool
And stuff
And profits
And reports
And the Fed
Lowering and raising rates
Step three
Profit
So
So your room
Wasn't that bad then
Yeah no
My room wasn't bad
But I was going to
Stay at the Hotel Pennsylvania
I stayed at the
A little place
Off of Times Square
It was
Oh
Yeah it was a small hotel
I mean
But there was
You go into the lobby
And the lobby looks okay
However their main elevator
Was closed
So I'm like
And we go into like
The back
And it's like
The service elevator
And the first day
Like I do not lie
There was this
Huge hole
On the top of the elevator
And you could see
All the cables
And wires
And everything
And I'm like
Oh dear god
I should not look at this
Yeah but did you take pictures
Oh no I didn't
Because I'm a noob
I would love to see that
There's some
Photoshop foo in there
No I mean
It wasn't a good view
I mean the hole
Wasn't like
You know incredibly gaping
But you could like
See all like
The police system
And like
Oh man
I don't want to see that
Out of sight
Out of mind
I have like
The ostrich syndrome
Syndrome going on
Well yeah
With an elevator
That's bad
How many stories was it
It was
I was on the third floor
I think I went all the way
Up to like ten
But like you know
Once you got past the elevator
Like I got one of the
Newer rooms
And
There's like two
There was like two rooms
The cheaper rooms
Were on the floors
That weren't redone
And I got one of the
Slightly more expensive rooms
On the rooms
That were redone
And it was
It was a tiny room
But like you know
Everything was nice
It was
It was very impressive
Like it was clean
I got a nice plasma TV
I was like shit
Oh shit
I'm just home
Nice
I remember reading that
And thinking that there was
No way that you could have
Been at Hope
Or at Hotel Pennsylvania
Excuse me
With a plasma TV
No no
Our TV didn't even turn on
Oh really
Yeah
Oh that's crazy
Do you mind
If we talk for a moment
About the hotel room
Because
It was
There's awful
There's pretty fucking awful
And then there's
I don't know why
We didn't
Demand a better room
Sooner
Yeah
And what
We had
The better rooms
We had
One of the better rooms
Too
Because I mean
If you had
Just one of the
Single rooms
With just one bed
It was like
It was so bad
Little known fact
Hotel Pennsylvania
Is actually a converted
Prison
Yeah
No
That's not true
That's what it should be
Well
If you were there
You'd remember
How friggin'
Humid it was
It was just
Unbearable
You could practically
Swim through the air
In front of the hotel
And so that required
That we rent our
Air conditioner
Almost non-stop
Problem was
It had a gigantic
Leak in it
And so
We got back
The first night
And half the floor
Is soaked
Now fortunately
My backpack
With my laptop
Is on the bed
And I don't think
Anything electronic
Got destroyed
But it was soaked
That's the point
When we should have
Demanded another room
We didn't
Yeah
And unfortunately
Unfortunately
There was only
Two beds in the room
And there were
Three people
Staying there
Me, you, and Lance
And so I brought
An air mattress
And unfortunately
I slept in the puddle
My air mattress
Was on the puddle
Were you
No, come on
Nat
If you can admit it
You were actually
Just wetting the bed
You know
Okay
I never saw it
Actually leak
Anyway
So like
There was a leak
In the
There was a leak
In the air conditioning
Like where was
The actual air conditioner
Was it like
Linking from the
It was just
Beneath the window
And it was leaking
I guess
Slightly above
The giant rat trap
Like a little bit
North of the rat trap
You're going to be
Shitting me
There was a giant
Rat trap
Oh yeah
Oh my god
Definitely
Dude, I'm so glad
I did not stay there
The bathroom faucet
Never turned off
Once all the way
Almost the entire time
We were there
The one good thing
About the hotel room
And I will give them this
Was that the shower
The water pressure
Was such that you could
Sandblast the Statue of Liberty
And all the
Picking crap on it
With the water pressure
I mean it was almost
Uncomfortable
But still
It was the one thing
That worked
Too bad it was
It was uncomfortable
My chest was like
Red
Dude, my shower
Had like nice
Slate floors
And it had like a
Drain right in the
Bottom of it
Oh
It was all
Shiatsu
Yeah
So
Next time I'm sleeping
On the plane
And my air conditioner
Didn't leak
My air conditioner
Had like a digital
Thermostat to it
They could keep it
Like heat locker
Temperatures the entire
Time
And I was like
Yeah
Good shit
Seriously
I wanted to go down
To Chinatown
And buy like
Half of a pig
And hang it up
In my room
Because it would
Work great
It would really
Freak out the maid
Too
I was like
Yeah
I like to think
That I would have
Drank less
If it weren't so hot
And I couldn't
Sleep in my own room
So
I just stayed out
All night at the bars
That's my story
Dude
I was like
I was all set
I mean like
Friday night
After the
BinRev conference
I was like
Oh man
Oh we can go out
And I can like
Stay out until the
Wee hours in the morning
And I was like
2 a.m.
I was like
Fuck I'm tired
I feel old
Yeah
I was kind of
Wondering what happened
But
I figured
You have your reasons
Yeah
I'm going back
To the hotel
I'm like
Dude
I'm going to
Come with you
And go to my hotel
Because it was
Really close
I'm not saying
I'm staying
At Stank Doug
Room
Right
Were you there
For the
White Castle
Experience
Oh
The White Castle
Okay
We'll get into that
Later
We're going to
Talk about
The presentations
And such
So
Okay
We're talking
About
General impressions
So the hotel
Pennsylvania
Sucks
And no one
Should ever
Stay there
Ever
Agreed
Okay
All right
So
Okay
What were the
General impressions
Of the convention
How about that
Huh
I gotta say
I was
Well I mean
I guess we could say
Kind of compared to
Defcon
I mean
I liked everything
I mean
It was
It was more or less
What I expected
I expected
Compared to Defcon
A little less
Skill level
Which
You know
Actually I was
Pleasantly surprised
A couple of times
And
A little more
You know
Socialization
And political
Activism
And all those
Sort of like
You know
Fruity subjects
But
I went
I definitely
Treat this as
More of a
Social outing
Than a
Technical conference
But
I gotta say
It's
If you're
If you want to go
It's in New York City
It's lots of fun
I would
Definitely recommend
Going to anyone
Who hasn't been before
I guess
Go ahead
I thought there were
Some good presentations
Too like
There were a bunch
Of phone related ones
That was cool
I don't think
There's maybe like
Two phone related ones
At Defcon
Oh the real
I didn't actually see
I haven't paid attention
To Defcon schedule
I'm curious what they have
For phone related stuff
I know Greyer
Is doing one
Greyer is doing one
Phone phishing
And then
I thought there was
One more
Maybe on
Yeah
Yes if memory serves
I believe he's
Working with
Secure Science on that
Shameless plug
Well hey
You know
I think he's
Fronting us
So I gotta give
Him props for that
Appreciate it
Alright so
I mean
I think we can all
Agree that
The general convention
Was good
Yeah
You know
As a west coaster
Specifically
Traveling as far
As I had to travel
I think that
The inconveniences
Of how much
Or how little stuff
I could actually
Bring to and from
And all the pains
Of being on a plane
For the better part
Of two days
I think that
Yeah I had some
Socially I had some
Great great experiences
And there were some
Blow your mind
Talks
Including yours
Which I know
We'll get into
In a little bit
But I think that
Defcon is generally
More worth
The inconvenience
And mostly that's
The blazing heat
The ridiculous
Prices
And being
Pacting with
6,040 other guys
Well there you go
I mean
It's more of
I gotta say that
I know exactly
What you're talking about
Because as an east coaster
I have to do the same
Exact thing for Defcon
And I'm
Honestly I'm not sure
If I would actually
Go to Hope
If I was on the west coast
And that's my
If I had to choose
Between
For a
For a social outing
I would definitely
Go for Hope
But as for
If I had to choose
One for
Technical prowess
I would definitely
Choose Defcon
Yeah
We're totally
Bad mouthing Hope here
Emmanuel's like
Fuming
No no no
I don't mean that
Well let me just say
That I thought
This is reduction value
Comparatively
There was
It looks like
Defcon was a much
More expensive
Presentation
I don't mean that
To knock Hope
In any way
However
In terms of
Social interaction
I think you nailed it
Aside from the
Hotel inconveniences
Like having to
Travel 18 floors
To have a cigarette
You know
I've met a lot
Of great people
And shared a lot
Of great stories
And all the
Hacker legends
That we've read about
In our childhood
Were there
Were presenting
Were friendly
To talk
Yep
So you know
When people ask me
How it was
I say you know
It wasn't the best
Con I've ever
Been to
But it was
A damn good
Con
Indeed
You know what
I think was
The best part
Now that I
Think about it
That you could
Like pretty much
Always get a seat
It's a lot
Different than
Defcon
With Defcon
You have to
Like wait an
Hour
Before the talk
Outside of the
Talk
To get in
And get a seat
Hopefully
One talk
For me
Is gone
And that was
Actually
Black Racket
Talk
I woke up
Five minutes
Too late
And jammed
Up there
And it was
Standing room
Only
And I had
To take a spot
On the floor
On the side
Yeah me too
I had to stand
Back
But still
It's better
Than Defcon
Because Defcon
Is pretty bad
Maybe Defcon
Will be better
This year
Though
You never
Know
Now
It's going
To be at
The Riviera
Yeah
That's my
Big hope
When I
Actually hear
People start
Talking about
I'm going to
Hope that
They're going
To say
Oh it
Actually
Didn't suck
This year
For seating
Because that
Was my
Major complaint
Basically
If you
Weren't
At the
Hotel
With the
Alexa Spark
And you
Didn't have
Access to
The closed
Caption TV
It was like
It would
Have been
Crazy
I would
Have missed
Tons of
Talks
But the
One cool
Thing that
I did
Like about
Hope
Is that
You had
You know
You had
Two conference
Rooms
Constantly
Going
And technically
You had a
Third which
Was their
Impromptu
Track
And so
You had
A and
You had
B
Plus
What they
Did
Downstairs
Is they
Set up
Hammocks
And chairs
So
And they
Streamed
A and
B
Because
For those
Who don't
Know
Hope
You have
Stuff on
The 18th
Floor
Of the
Hotel
Pennsylvania
And then
You actually
Have a
Sort of
A marketplace
And a
Gathering
Spot
And the
Lock
Picking
Demonstrations
And the
Public
Terminal
Cluster
All on
The
Second
Floor
And with
This
Segways
I didn't
Actually go
On the
Segways
I didn't
I suck
I'm really
Bad at
It
They had
Segways
This year
You could
Actually ride
But on
The second
Floor
They had
The segways
And they
Had all
That kind
Of stuff
But they
Also
Had two
Extra
Areas
Set up
With chairs
And you
Had hammocks
This year
That you
Could lay
Down and
Watch what
Was going
On one
Screen
You could
Watch area
A
And then
On the
Other
Side
You could
Actually
Watch
What was
Going
On area
B
Which was
The two
Conference
And I
Got to
Say that
Actually made
A lot
Of sense
Because that
Was one
Of my
Major
Complaints
For DEFCON
When I
Was at
The Alexis
Park
I'm not
Sure if
It's going
To change
This year
But
And that
Makes so
Much sense
To just
Have a
Second room
With a
Big screen
And it's
Just broadcast
Totally
It's not
Really going
To be
That
And I
Was actually
Curious how
Many people
Were actually
Using that
I mean
Before the
Talks
Actually got
Started
They were
Playing stuff
Like hacker
Videos
And they
Were playing
The Kevin
Mitnick thing
On Dateline
And what
Else were
They playing
Like you
Know random
Just like you
Know computer
Geek type
Things that
Only we
Would find
Funny
But it
Was it
Was pretty
Cool it
Was a
Very well
Thought out
Idea
And I
Think they
Got it
From the
Chaos
Computer
Congress
Or something
Like that
I think
They mentioned
That off
The hook
Well no
The Chaos
Computer
Congress
Which is
Their
Convention
Oh
Their actual
Conference
My mistake
I'm
Yeah
Chaos
Computer
Club
Is actually
Puts on the
Chaos
Computer
Club
Maybe it
Was like
Chaos
Computer
Club
Conference
Who knows
But yeah
It was a
Really cool
Idea
Okay
So Natus
Favorite
Presentation
I'm definitely
Going to have to
Say Project
MF
Alright
And
Actually
Yeah
We can
Talk about
That
I actually
Did not
Get to
See that
Because I
Was lame
And I
Actually
Had something
To do
Saturday
Night
And I
Had it
All planned
Out
They were
Going to
Do it
Saturday
At 4pm
And I
Was like
Okay
Cool
I can
See that
And then I
Can run
Off and
Do my
Thing
And I
Get there
At 4pm
And he's
Not there
And the
415
They said
Okay
We're
Posturing
This till
8pm
Because he's
Stuck in
Traffic
And I'm
Like
Fuck
So I
Did not
Get to
See it
Yeah
You know
What it
Was apparently
The problem
Was that
The trains
Were out
In Queen
And so
Those were
Fibers
From
Yeah
And so
The trains
Were down
So we
Probably
Had to
Drive
Or something
So he
Got
Owned
Yeah
They would
Have to
By
Con
Yeah
For those
Of you
Who didn't
Weren't
Paying
Attention
To
News
Like this
Was all
Over the
New York
News
And like
Apparently
Queens
Which is a
Giant section
Of New York
City
Was without
Power for like
A week
And I was like
Oops
It's funny
When we were
Flying in
On Thursday
Night
You look
Out the
Right side
Of the
Plane
And you
Can see
Entire
Several
Mile
Blocks
Of power
Grids
That were
Just blinking
In unison
Or like
Fading in
And out
It was like
Watching a
Milk drop
Visualization
Oh my god
That must have
Been crazy
It was pretty
Wild
It didn't
Ensure me
That we were
Going to
Land in
Safety
Okay so
Syvon were
You at
Project MF
I was
I was right
Next to
Natus
And Gene
Eric
And that
Was without
A doubt
My favorite
Presentation
Okay so
You two can
Go babble
On them
So what
Exactly was
Project MF
You want to
Talk about it
You talk
About it
Okay
Project MF
For those of you
Who were not
There
Have not seen
The website
Project MF
Dot com
Was
Fiber was
Basically
Listening to
PhoneCrips
Dot com
Recordings
That Evan
Doorbell
And that
Whole crew
Had made
Regarding
MF
And other
Just specifically
Cool recordings
Of the sounds
That old
Switching systems
And carriers
Used to make
And he decided
Well hey
Why couldn't I
Do this with
Asterisk
It's got
Some level
Of MF
Support
And so he
Hacked it
And just
Weeks into it
And he finally
Got it working
The Wednesday
Before the conference
Basically
You take
Three network
Cards
One to your
Local LAN
One to your
Asterisk box
And then the
Other two
Basically simulate
Both sides
Of a trunk
And use a
Crossover cable
And he's
Essentially
Recreated
These
Goodie
Tandems
To
Insanely
Intricate
Detail
To where
They actually
Are blowing
2600
Across the line
The entire
Time
He made
A comment
In his
Presentation
That he
Tried to
Do it
Over his
Local area
Network
And took
Down his
LAN
A few
Times
Trying to
Figure that
Out
Before he
Realized
That he
Needed
Two extra
Nigs
But now
You can
Actually
Call up
This
DID
And blow
2600
And then
Keep
The number
You want
To call
And start
And it
Will
Actually
With a
Certain degree
Back
Your seat
Make that
Call for
You
It's
Pretty
Wild
Stuff
I
Gotta
Say
That
And it's
Awesome
And it's
Cool
Because it's
Using VoIP
So I
Can set
Your caller
ID
That was
Funny
When he
Did it
During the
Presentation
Yeah
It's like
New school
Meets old
School
Right
So wait
He basically
He MF'd
His caller
ID
No
It was
Just
That default
To zero
Yeah
All zeros
That'd be
Pretty cool
You could
Probably
Do that
Though
Huh
That's
A good
Idea
Yeah
We could
I mean
Go ahead
Oh yeah
Well I mean
I know
That
That's how
They used
To do it
Like back
And when
You had
Single frequency
And multi-frequency
Trunks
They would
Basically
MF the
Sequence
When the
Call was
Being set
Up
Like I
Think
I think
The way
It was
Was it
Would
MF the
Call
ID
Right after
The number
Went through
So
It was like
Yeah
I'm sure
You could
Do it
Between the
First and
Second ring
If I recall
Correctly
Well that's
Transmitting it
To the
Caller
I believe
There was
Some way
Of actually
MFing it
To the
Switch itself
Like with
The calling
Party number
As it were
Oh interesting
So
Yeah
So basically
Fiber optic
Set up a way
Using asterisk
To
Blue box
And
Correct
You know
MF
And all
That kind
Of stuff
And
Set up
With clicks
And clunks
And you know
Finally be able
To find a
Use your
Blue box
After these
So many
Years
When it
Was
You thought
It was
Retired
And one
Of the
Cool thing
He added
In there
Was
You can
Blue box
Through the
Certain
Control code
Like
NPA
102
XXXXX
And it
Would give
You like
A milliwatt
Test
He's got
Quite a few
Of the old
Cool stuff
In there
For
Posterity
Let me pull
The code
Right now
Yeah you got
A responder
Type 105
Milliwatt
Turn
Milliwatt
Scanning
And then
Some internal
Custom stuff
That you can
Do as well
Can I
Get that
One to
One and
Dial my
Local
Up
And say
Yeah
Testing
Operator
Give me
Control
Trunk
Right
I feel like
What
How do
Your music
Box sir
Well
Good for
Fiver
Optic
Yeah
It's cool
That he
Came back
After all
These years
Yeah I thought
It was crazy
When I actually
Saw him up
There
Yeah me too
Yeah I was
Like wow
Guess he is
Still around
Cause I
Was actually
I was just
Like reading up
On him
Like literally
A month before
I was actually
Checking out
His wikipedia
Article and all
That stuff
And I was
Like man
I wonder
Where the heck
He is today
And sure
Shooting
And I see
Up on the
Hope thing
Going
Fiber
Optic
Will be
There
Oh
I don't
Right
Guess he
There he is
Read this book
That was written
Back in the
90s called
Masters of
Deception
The gang
That ruled
Cyberspace
And it
Pretty much
From a
Narrative
Fictional
Style
Point of
View
Covers
The whole
Foundation
Of the
Masters of
Deception
How they
Split off
In the
Legion of
Doom
And ultimately
The hacker
War
That
Let's
Them
Being
High
In the
Media
And the
Crash
Of AT&T
92
And how
They basically
Got accused
Of it
And he
Eventually
Went to
Prison
Like the
Whole story
Is in
Let me see
How many
Pages
This is
It is
A little
Under
250
I think
226
Yeah
I mean
It's a
Quick read
I read it
On the
Plane
Over
To New
York
Last time
For
Shmoo
And I
Gotta say
I love
It
I read it
Every year
Yeah
Me too
For example
They didn't
Is it still
Available
Like Amazon
Or something
Oh yeah
Yeah
You can
Get on
Amazon
For as
Cheap
As
$3
Shipped
If you
Buy a
Used
Copy
Oh crap
I'll have to
Check that
Out
Just so
Everyone
Knows
They actually
Didn't crash
AT&T
They were
Just blamed
For a
Crash
In AT&T
Yeah
It was a
Software bug
If I recall
Correct
Yeah
It was a
Software bug
On number
Four
Electronic
Switching
Systems
Because they
Had like
The split
Second
Of
You know
If you
Sent them
A
Packet
A certain
Packet
Within
Like the
Split
Is basically
Just caused
This giant
Chain reaction
Of these
Packets
Getting sent
To all
The number
Four
ESS's
Around
It was
Like whoa
Okay
Oops
Bring back
That crossbar
System
A little
More
Reliable
All right
And I
Gotta say
I was
Really looking
Forward to
Project
MF
And that
Would
Probably
Been my
Favorite
Presentation
But
As it
Stands
Right now
Because I
Didn't
Actually see
It
My
Favorite
Presentation
I have
To say
Was the
RFID
There's
This person
I think
She's from
The EFF
She basically
Implanted
An RFID
In her
Arm
And she
Demoed
For us
And she
Demoed
How easy
It was
To actually
Clone it
Because they
Were kind
Of saying
Oh it's
Impossible
To be
Cloned
And this
Guy said
Well
No
Not really
And he
Just weighs
This little
Thing around
It
And he
Gets a
Number
And he
Pops it
Into
This
Machine
And he
Ways
A little
Reader
Against it
And it
Pops out
The same
Number
Whoa
Yeah
I'm sure
You'll cover
This
But what
Were her
Thoughts
On that
Once she
Realized
That her
Body
Had been
Owned
Well no
She said
That this
Is exactly
The same
Reason
This is
Exactly
The reason
I got
It just
To prove
This is
Possible
Wow
She was
Rather cool
About it
And it
Was
Pretty
Interesting
Her story
Was like
I think
It was
Annabelle
Newitz
I think
Her name
Is
I forget
What it
Is
I don't
Know how
To say
She's
The one
Who
Interviewed
Me
And lucky
And Strom
And stuff
A long
Time
A long
Time ago
For that
Wired
Article
Oh that
Was her
Yeah
That was
She works
For
I don't
Know if
She still
Works for
Wired
But she
Worked
For Wired
And she
Was part
Of the
EFF
And stuff
That's
Pretty
Cool
Yeah
She
Seemed
Rather
Groovy
I met
Her
Later
On
Stank
Introduced
Me to
Her
It
Was
And
She
Basically
Said
I
Just
Want
To
Prove
That
This
Is
Actually
a
Problem
And
She
Was
Rather
Cool
About
It
Like
They
Were
Talking
About
This
Company
And
How
She
Was
Like
Oh
Okay
Let me
Go
Find
A
Doctor
So
I
Can
Actually
Get
This
Implanted
And
She
Finds
A
Doctor
At
UCLA
And
She
Goes
And
He
Says
I've
Never
Interacted
With
This
Company
Before
I
Visited
Their
Website
Once
And
It's
Like
His
Docs
Are
Right
On
The
Website
Saying
Oh
Yeah
It
Was
Funny
She
Like
She
Held
Up
Her
Arm
And
She
Like
Had
It
Circled
Of
Where
You
Had
To
Scan
It
Just
To
Make
Sure
It
Would
Work
During
The
Demo
It
Was
Impressive
I
Had
To
Say
And
It's
Interesting
With
The
Fact
That
You
Can
Actually
Have
This
Implanted
And
Not
Know
What
The
Hell
Was
Going
on
Were
They
To
The
Chip
In
Her
Arm
It
Wasn't
That
Type
Of
Chip
It
Was
A
Passive
One
Rather
Than
An
Active
One
Which
Is
Part
Of
The
Problem
Of
The
Security
But
They
Were
Talking
About
And
Apparently
There's
This
Company
That
Is
Actually
Starting
To
Mandate
This
For
Employee
Control
Of
Like
Access
To
Certain
Are
And
Such
And
They
Said
The
Guy
Who
Was
Hacks
It
Was
Saying
They're
Actually
Pretty
Smart
They're
Actually
Not
Controlling
Their
Outside
Doors
With
This
Because
They
Actually
Do
Realize
How
Insecure
It
Is
So
I'm
Like
Well
If
They're
Actually
They're
Mandating
Employees
Get
RFID
Implanted
Inserted
Into
Their
Skin
Into
Their
Body
Forever
Like
For
Something
That
They
Realize
Isn't
That
Good
Yes
Wow
I don't
Know
What
Kind
Of
Health
Care
They
Have
Apparently
Their
Health
Care
Is
Actually
Going
To
Be
Covering
All
These
Small
Surgeries
And
Apparently
It's
Simple
Enough
Where
It's
A
Small
Incision
You
Pop
It
Right
In
And
She
Came
Home
With
A
Band-Aid
And
That
Was
It
Wow
Yeah
It
Was
Pretty
Freaky
I
Will
Admit
But
Can
You
Take
Them
Out
Is
It
Hard
To
Take
Them
Out
Yeah
She
Says
It's
About
The
Size
Of
A
Grain
Of
Rice
And
You
Have
To
Dig
Around
To
Find
It
And
I
Any
Time
You
Left
The
Area
It
Would
Lock
The
Screen
And
Any
Time
You
Walk
Back
It
Would
Unlock
It
I
Mean
Yeah
Security
Implications
Aside
That
Would
Be
Cool
I
Sorry
Oh
Of course
It
Would
Be
Cool
We're
Computer
Geeks
Yeah
I
Mean
Even
If
It
Would
Say
Hello
Joshua
Something
Like
That
Would
You
Like
To
Play
A
Game
Owned
You
Drop
Your
Own
Ducks
Dude
It's
Not
A
Secret
Oh
It
Isn't
No
It's
Not
A
Secret
Okay
Alright
Well
I
Mean
I
Couldn't
Pay
My
Vote
It
Was
A
Secret
Right
Yeah
True
Okay
So
Other
Presentations
Savant
You
Did
You
Did
Track
Splates
Now
Actually
I
I'm
Going
To
Cop
Something
Here
I
Didn't
Actually
Show
Up
For
That
I
Was
In
My
Little
Bed
Because
I
Was
Passed
Out
Of
Sleep
I
Mattis
Saw
It
Right
No
I
Was
I
Was
Sleeping
Too
You
Guys
Like
Didn't
Wake
Me
Up
Oh
That's
Okay
Gene
Eric
Saw
It
Right
No
He
Didn't
See
It
I'm
Just
Giving
You
Hard
Times
Yeah
Just
In
Our
Defense
It
Was
At
10
A.M.
I
Know
I
Wouldn't
Have
Gone
To
It
If
I
Weren't
Presenting
To
It
And
I
Knew
That
If
I
Fallen
Asleep
That
Night
I
Would
Not
Wake
Up
In
Time
For
The
Presentation
So
I
Just
Stayed
Up
All
Night
How
Many
People
Were
Actually
In
The
Seats
Do
You
Have
Any
Idea
How
Many
Seats
Were
In
There
I
Would
Say
The
Seats
Were
Maybe
Two
Thirds
Full
Oh
It's
Not
That
Bad
Actually
Especially
10
A.M.
Blew
My
Mind
For
A
Sunday
10
A.M.
Presentation
When
Everybody
Was
Hung
Over
We
Made
It
For
The
Presentation
Before
And
There
Weren't
That
Many
People
But
Right
As
It
Creeps
Towards
Time
People
Were
Just
Pouring
In
And
We
Were
Shocked
So
I
Was
Pleasily
Surprised
Thank
You
To
Everyone
Who
Did
Go
I
Know
That
I
Saw
Beave
In
The
Front
Row
And
He
Was
Quite
Supportive
So
Thanks
Beave
Really
Appreciate
It
Yeah
I
Think
It
Went
Pretty
Well
Tell
Us
What
Was
Your
Presentation
About
What
Is
Tracksploits
Isn't
Tracking
Exploits
Like
The
Name
Might
Imply
At
First
But
More
Using
Exploits
To
Track
Fishers
And
Other
Online
Criminals
It
Basically
Went
Over
Some
Various
Things
That
We
Had
Done
With
Cracking
The
IP
Obfuscation
In
A
few
IRC
Daemons
Goes
Over
Some
Of
The
Other
Hacking
Fishing
Crews
Excuse
Me
That
Use
They
Lead
Trails
Like
They
Use
The
Same
Handle
In
Their
IRC
Code
Or
In
Their
Botnet
Code
As
They
Will
On
Their
My
Space
Page
Or
On
Their
DVNR
Page
With
Screenshots
Of
Their
Desktops
Which
Also
Include
Their
Handles
And
Everything
Else
Basically
A
Forensic
Look
At
How
We
Use
Some
Hacking
Exploits
To
Sort
Of
Own
These
Guys
Owning
The
Owners
Into
The
Ownies
Exactly
Like
Fishing
The
Fishers
Even
That
Was
Definitely
A
Cool
Concept
And
Stank
Dog
Covered
Some
Of
That
Stuff
On
That
One
Talk
Yeah
I
Read
My
presentation
Because
Stank
Dog
Did
Such
An
Awesome
Job
Talking
About
Screenshot
Analysis
And
Metadata
That
Was
Also
One
Of
My
Very
Favorite
Talk
Yeah
That
Was
Good
Too
And
That
Wasn't
Even
A
Schedule
Yeah
I
Gotta
Say
That
Was
Up
There
I
Mean
Yeah
I
Mean
For
Those
You
Don't
Know
On
We're
Sitting
There
Friday
And
We're
Actually
Looking
Forward
To
This
Talk
And
You
Know
It's
Me
Stank
I
Think
You
Were
There
Natus
Logos
X
Was
There
Zero
DB
And
This
Guy
Comes
On
And
Says
Yeah
This
Talk
Has
Been
Gonna
Give
A
Presentation
I
Have
One
Of
My
Old
Presentations
Still
On
My
Laptop
And
The
Guy
Is
Like
Oh
Really
Yeah
Sure
You
Can
Do
That
So
You
Stank
Was
The
Hero
Of
The
Hour
And
On
5pm
On
Friday
He
Did
His
Art
Of
Digital
Deduction
Which
I
Thought
Was
Pretty
Whiz
Bang
Because
I
Seen
The
Presentation
But
I
Never
Actually
Saw
Him
Give
It
And
Yeah
Everyone
Sort of
Let out
Of
The
Richard
Stallman
Keynote
I
Think
Who
Was
Talking
And
They
Actually
Toward
The
End
He
Had
A
Pretty
Full
House
Yeah
Everyone
Came
In
And
It
Was
Very
Much
Interactive
Talk
Because
He
Would
Constantly
Ask
Questions
To
The
Audience
And
People
Were
Shouting
Answers
Back
And
They
Were
Picking
Up
Stuff
That
He
Actually
Didn't
Pick
Up
On
The
First
Place
And
No
One
Else
Did
On
When
The
Previous
Time
He
Gave
It
So
It
Was
Good
Shit
I
Will
Admit
Yeah
It's
Way
Better
Watching
The
Presentation
Than
Just
Looking
At
The
Powerpoint
Because
I
Mean
I
Had
Seen
The
Powerpoint
But
Powerpoint
For
Wimps
Yeah
Fuck
Powerpoint
Dude
Real
Men
Just
Give
Their
Talks
By
Without
Powerpoint
Slides
Like
Myself
They
Turned
Their
Laptop
Around
At
The
Audience
Occasionally
Yeah
They
Turned
The
Laptop
Saying
Look
Okay
For
Those
Who
Didn't
Know
I
Gave
A
Talk
I
Was
Phone
Freaking
101
And
I
Was
I
Was
Shocked
That
We
Had
A
Completely
Full
House
I
Would
Say
About
Probably
250
300
People
Just
Like
The
Entire
It
Was
Standing
Room
Only
I
Didn't
Actually
See
Another
Talk
Like
That
The
Entire
Week
And
True
Not
Even
Thelma
Yeah
So
I
Was
Getting
There
It
Was
Like
You
Know
The
Guy
Before
Me
Wrapped
Up
15
Minutes
Early
I
Mean
I
Was
Like
Oh
Sweet
I
Have
Enough
Time
I
Okay
I
Just
Reboot
And
I
Make
Sure
That
It
It'll
Sense
The
LCC
Projector
There
So
It
Reboots
And
I
Start
Seeing
The
Dell
Logo
Up
Onto
The
Projector
And
I'm
Saying
Okay
It
Works
I
Get
To
The
Ubuntu
Screen
To
Log
In
And
It
Says
Goes
Back
To
A
Blue
Screen
Meaning
It's
Not
Getting
A
Signal
Or
A
Bad
Signal
I'm
Like
Shit
So
250
People
There
250
300
People
And
I
Just
Sit
There
And
I
Turn
My
Laptop
Around
Saying
You're
Not
Seeing
My
PowerPoint
Slides
And
I
Just
Did
The
Entire
Talk
Without
Any
Visual
Aids
You
Know
Actually
I
Think
It
Was
Almost
A
Good
Thing
Though
Fiber
Briefly
Mentioned
In
One
Of
His
Talk
That
He
Didn't
Put
Up
Any
Slides
Because
He
Wanted
His
Presentation
To
Be
Appreciable
By
The
Blind
Community
Because
They
Were
The
Pioneers
Of
The
Freaking
Scene
And
So
I
Think
That
Holds
Very
True
To
Your
Presentation
As
Well
That
You
Still
Heard
Everything
You
Needed
To
And
Got
All
That
You
Could
Have
Just
From
Not
Seeing
Anything
Well
I
Try
To
Definitely
Always
Emphasize
All
Of
My
Points
By
My
Talking
I
Just
Don't
Ramble
On
And
Just
Say
Look
At
My
Slides
I
Mean
The
Only
Time
That
Really
Drove
Me
Nuts
Was
I
Had
A
Couple
Of
Really
Cool
Diagrams
That
I
Actually
Stole
From
Strom
With
Like
How
A
Phone
Call
Goes
Through
And
How
Internet
Call
Goes
Through
And
I
Had
A
Couple
Of
Maps
When
I
Was
Describing
Bell
System
History
Of
Oh
Here
Here's
The
Layout
Of
The
Original
Bell
Operating
Companies
And
This
Is
How
It
Looks
Today
With
Verizon
Over
In
These
States
And
Quest
Over
In
These
States
And
I
Mean
For
The
Most
Part
It
Really
Wasn't
I
Really
Didn't
Lose
Much
But
The
Fact
That
I
Like
Every
Once
In
A
While
I
Scroll
And
I
Hit
A
Diagram
And
I
Basically
See
The
Audience
And
This
Is
Where
I
Showing
You
A
Diagram
But
I
Don't
Have
It
Right
Now
So
You
Just
Gonna
Have
To
Take
A
Look
At
It
Later
And
I
For
The
Most
Part
I
Think
People
Liked
It
I
Think
There
Was
A
Couple
People
Who
Were
Grumbling
Over
The
Fact
That
Didn't
Have
Slides
But
What
You
Going
To
Do
Those
Are
The
People
That
Obviously
Haven't
Read
Anything
And
Needed
Your
Talk
In
The
Slides
To
Understand
Yeah
I
Think
It
Went
Well
I
Met
The
Infamous
Rebel
From
Off
The
Hook
Fame
Oh
God
He
Just
Wanted
He
Was
In
The
Front
Row
Of
My
Presentation
He
Was
Jumping
Around
Every
Time
I
Mentioned
Something
Like
Oh
I
Know
That
And
Oh
Man
As
Captain
Crunch
Dude
Captain
Crunch
Was
Like
Two
Rows
Behind
Him
And
He
Was
Jumping
Around
To
Every
Time
I
Started
Talking
About
Certain
Things
I
Was
Like
Oh
Man
This
Is
My
Prison
Day
Leave
Me
Alone
Take
Questions
Later
Hey
Josh
How
Everything
Was
Having
Crunch
To
You
Crunch
Was
Very
Cordial
When
I
Met
Him
And
I
Started
Speaking
With
Him
About
The
N2
Carrier
And
Mulwina
That
Had
Gone
Down
Recently
And
He
Really
Liked
Talking
To
Me
And
I
Asked
For
My
Phone
Number
So
I
Gave
It
To
Him
And
Yeah
I
Heard
From
Him
Quite
A
Bit
That
Weekend
How
Many
Times
Did
He
Ended
Up
Calling
I
Think
He
Ended
Up
Calling
Somewhere
Between
15
And
20
Times
Oh
The
Best
Part
Is
That
Somehow
He
Figured
Out
The
Hotel
Room
We
In
And
He
Called
The
Hotel
Room
Right
At
10
O'clock
When
Your
Presentation
Was
Going
On
And
I
Was
Trying
To
Sleep
And
So
I
Get
Up
And
I
Answer
The
Phone
You
Know
Cause
You
Guys
Aren't
There
So
I
Answer
And
I'm
Like
Hello
He's
Like
Hi
This
Is
Captain
Crunch
Is
Joshua
There
And
I
Was
Just
Like
He's
Doing
A
Presentation
Right
Now
And
I
Hung
Up
And
I
Unplugged
The
Phone
Cord
From
The
Wall
And
I
Didn't
Have
My
Phone
Charged
Very
Well
This
Weekend
And
So
Call
Stopped
Going
Through
At
A
Certain
Point
Oops
Yeah
Alright
Another
Previous
Presentation
That I
Like
I
Don't
Think
Anyone
Else
Actually
Saw
This
Because
It
Was
That
Friday
At
10
AM
And
I
Think
There
Was
Me
And
About
10
Other
People
In
The
Room
Giving
This
But
It
Was
Actually
A
Two
For
One
Special
It
Was
A
Project
It
Was
A
Talk
By
Cheshire
Cat
Or
No
I
Sorry
Cheshire
Cat
And
Yeah
Because
There's
Another
Guy
Out
There
Called
Cheshire
Cat
And
I
Was
Like
Who
The
Heck
See
But
Cheshire
Cat
And
He
Talks
About
Why
Flash
Sucks
And
I
Was
Like
Yeah
Let's
Go
Do
This
And
He
Said
He
Talks
Why
Flash
Sucks
And
Why
You
Shouldn't
Use
It
Closers
And
Just
You
Know
There's
A
Bunch
Of
Alternatives
To
It
And
He
Covered
It
Very
Well
And
Actually
Outlined
A lot
Of
The
Good
Stuff
But
Actually
After
That
And
I'm
Completely
Drawing
A
Blank
On
His
Name
And
It
Really
Driving
Me
Nuts
That
There
Was
This
Guy
And
He
Did
A
Talk
On
Treating
Or
I
Wouldn't
Say
Treating
But
Attempting
To
Fix
Illiteracy
Via
The
Web
And
How
It
Is
Using
Text
To
Speech
Engines
And
Various
Dictionaries
And
How
To
Actually
Attempt
To
Start
Teaching
People
How
To
Read
Via
The
Web
And
It
Was
Pretty
Cool
I
Gotta
Say
He
Had
A
Bunch
Of
Good
Ideas
I
Mean
I'm
Not
Sure
How
The
Text
To
Speech
Engine
Would
Actually
Handle
People
Spelling
On
The
Internet
But
It
Was
A
Good
Attempt
I
Will
Say
And
I'm
Drawing
A
Blank
On
His
Name
And
I
Thought
I
Had
It
In
My
Palm
Pile
But
I
Guess
I
Don't
I
Have
To
Find
It
And
What
Really
Bums
Me
Out
Is
That
He's
Not
Mentioned
In
The
He's
Not
Mentioned
In
The
Guide
Because
It
Was
Just
Cheshire
Catalyst
Presentation
On
The
Schedule
And
He's
Not
Mentioned
On
The
On
The
Website
Or
Anything
And
He
Basically
Ended
His
Presentation
Like
This
Is
Really
Pretty
Much
Just
An
Idea
At
This
Point
But
I'm
Really
Looking
For
People
To
Help
Me
Out
And
I
Swear
I
Have
His
Contact
Information
Written
Around
Here
Some
Place
But
It's
Lord
Only
Knows
Where
Any
Other
Memorable
Presentations
I
Sure
Enjoyed
The
Live
Taping
Of
In
Rep
Radio
Season
4
Episode
1
Definitely
A Lot
Of
Fun
Well
Since
Everyone
I
Didn't
Mention
That
One
Since
Everyone
Was
Actually
Listened
To
That
Last
Week
So
I
Think
Everyone
Knew
About
That
But
Actually
Let's
Go
Talk
About
The
Bin
Rev
Get
Together
Afterwards
Oh
White Castle
Oh
White Castle
So
After
The
Show
Stops
It
Was
Stank
Myself
Actually
All
Of
Us
Plus
About
Like
I'd
Say
Probably
Good
You
And
We
All
Started
To
Head
Out
And
You
Know
We
Didn't
Know
Where
To
Go
And
I
Heard
I
Mean
Someone
Says
Where
Are
We
Going
And
I
Remember
Stank
Mentioning
Earlier
In
The
Day
Saying
Oh
Man
I
Know
No
One
Wants
To
Go
But
I
Really
Want
To
White
Castle
To
Get
Sweet
Iced
Tea
Because
I
Southern
Boy
And
Apparently
White
Castle
Is
Crazy
Down
There
And
So
I'm
Saying
Oh
I
Guess
We're
Going
To
White
Castle
Afterwards
So
We
All
Start
Going
To
White
Castle
And
Stank
Start
Saying
Oh
Man
We're
Going
To
White
Castle
I
Didn't
Expect
This
Is
All
Ratchet
Is
Idea
I'm
Like
Damn
What
Is
Wrong
With
You
Yeah
He
Like
Pins
It
On
Me
That
We're
Going
To
White
Castle
So
You
Can
Get
A
Sweet
Iced
Tea
I'm
Like
Yeah
Whatever
So
We
Trekked
Down
I
Don't
Even
Know
Where
The
Hell
It
Was
To
Be
Honest
With
You
I
Think
It
Was
Somewhere
Along
7th
Ave
That
We
You
Know
20
People
We
All
Just
Start
Heading
Down
To
White
Castle
It's
This
Little
Hole
Guy
Comes
In
And
I
Think
You
Talked
To
Him
More
Than
I
Did
Savant
So
Yeah
I
Talked
To
That
Guy
Quite
A
Bit
Stank
Did
Too
Stank
Was
Beatboxing
For
Him
Oh
Yeah
True
Yeah
This
Old
Drunk
Guy
I
Wouldn't
See
He's
Too
Old
Probably
He
Looked
Like
He
Was
In
His
40s
And
He
Is
Tanked
And
He
Gets
A
Drink
And
He
Just
Starts
Talking
To
All
Of
Us
And
Like
Saying
Man
You
Guys
Ever
Want
To
See
Good
Tree
Country
Go
Down
To
North
Carolina
That's
Where
I'm
From
And
Yeah
I
Do
I
Think
We
Should
Like
Totally
If
We
Get
The
Show
Notes
We
Should
Totally
Link
That
You
Decorated
Him
With
Some
Cell
Phone
Bling
That
You
Had
Yes
From
The
Quarter
Machine
There
From
The
Quarter
Machine
Oh
Yeah
They
Give
Out
Like
50
Cents
Had
24
Pieces
Of
Cell
Phone
Bling
And
I
Was
Putting
It
On
My
Smartphone
And
The
Elastic
On
This
Was
Just
Crap
Maybe
It
Was
So
Humid
Or
Whatever
But
It
Turned
My
Phone
Into
A
Gummy
Mess
And
So
There
Mingo
Fashionable
And
Gene
I
Believe
Gene
Eric
Asked
Me
For
One
And
This
Guy
Was
Standing
There
Ranting
He
Was
In
The
Booth
Across
From
Me
He
Was
Like
You
Gotta
Give
Me
One
Right
Here
Come
On
I
Stick
It
On
There
And
It
Falls
Off
No
Give
Me
Another
One
And
Throw
It
On
There
And
He
Wore
For
The
Remainder
Of
The
While
He
Did
His
Rants
He
Kind
Of
Like
Gwen
Stefani
He
Had
One
On
His
Forehead
Between
His
Eyes
And
One
On
His
Chin
He
Had
Two
On
Him
Looked
Exactly
Like
Gwen
Stefani
Just
As
Attractive
Too
And
Actually
The
Other
Thing
That
We
Did
I'm
Not
Sure
Who
Gave
It
To
Them
But
They
Were
Making
These
Things
Earlier
In
The
Day
At
Hope
Called
LED
Throw
E's
And
They
Were
Like
A
Magnet
An
LED
And
A
Just
One
Of
Those
Like
Hearing
Aid
Batteries
And
They
Would
Like
The
LED
Would
It
Was
A
Huge
LED
And
It
Would
The
Pattery
Would
Power
The
LED
And
You
Could
Use
The
Magnet
To
Stick
It
Some
Place
And
He
Sees
This
On
Somebody's
Badge
Or
Someone
Was
Holding
It
And
He's
Like
Oh
Man
That's
The
Coolest
Thing
Ever
And
The
Person
Gives
It
To
Him
And
He
Thinks
He's
The
Coolest
Shit
Ever
Because
Of
This
Person
Little
LED
He
Has
So
We
Leave
And
We're
Actually
We're
Milling
Out
Front
We
Got
Shooed
Away
By
NYPD
It
Was
Actually
Pretty
Funny
As I
Come
Out
After
The
Meal
To
Have
A
Quick
Smoke
There's
This
Guy
And
This
Girl
Who
Was
In
Dire
Straits
And
They
Had
A
Flat
Tire
So
I'm
There
You
My
Cali
Style
My
Board
Shorts
And
Sandals
And
I'm
Like
Hey
Man
You
Need
Some
Help
Because
You
Look
Like
You're
Sweating
A lot
Over
This
And
I've
Done
It
Before
You
Can
Use
Vans
So
Standing
Out
There
While
This
Guy
Is
Changing
Tires
And
They
Come
On
Over
The
Security
System
There's
Like
Speakers
And
A
Camera
Right
Over
The
White
Castle
And
This
Is
Ref
IDA
31337
We
Are
Watching
Recording
For
Audio
And
Sound
I'm
Like
We're
Just
Changing
A
Tire
I'm
Shouting
At
The
White
Castle
Storefront
And
Yeah
Eventually
They
Were
All
Stayed
And
He
Bummed
A
Cigarette
Next
Time
You
Hear
On
The
News
That
Someone
Is
Talking
Smack
About
Hackers
And
How
They're
Stealing
Your
Money
Or
Identity
At
Least
Think
Of
Us
We're
Not
All
Bad
And
Then
We
Got
Ushered
Away
By
Police
The
Cop
Actually
Came
By
And
He
Says
You
Guys
Wait
For
Someone
Inside
And
I
Said
Yeah
We
Got
A
Bunch
Of
Friends
That
Are
Actually
Inside
And
How
Long
I
Said
I
Mean
I
Don't
Know
I
Mean
Do
You
Want
To
Leave
Now
And
He
Just
Like
Looked
At
Me
Funny
Like
I
Was
Actually
Acquiescing
To
Him
Because
I
Don't
Think
He
Gets
That
Too
Often
Oh
Yeah
If
You
Could
Do
That
Be
Great
And
I'm
Like
Oh
Sure
Yeah
We'll
Leave
And
We
Skedaddle
Everyone
Out
Actually
The
Fun
Part
Was
This
Aston
Martin
Pulls
Up
And
You
Can
Tell
Yeah
You
Remember
That
The
Aston
Martin
Actually
Pulled
Up
And
It
Was
This
Really
Expensive
Sports
Car
For
Those
You
Who
Don't
Know
And
These
Two
People
Get
Out
They
Go
Into
White
Castle
I
Just
Thought
That
Was
Incredibly
Ironic
You
Should
Take
A
Picture
Of
Them
Stepping
Out
In
Front
Of
The
White
Castle
That
Is
The
Definition
Of
Irony
Yeah
I
Think
Two
Or
Three
People
Actually
Did
Take
Pictures
Of
Them
Actually
More
Of
The
Car
And
Of
As
They
Just
Give
Us
The
Cold
Shoulder
And
I
Think
Someone
Actually
Called
Oh
Sure
Yeah
You're
Cool
You're
Going
To
White
Castle
I
Completely
Do
Not
Know
Who
Yeah
No
They
Were
Taking
Pictures
And
Everything
And
I'm
Sure
It
Was
Pretty
Surreal
For
Them
But
I
Mean
You
Put
Like
You
Know
Expensive
Sports
Car
In
The
Middle
Of
This
Ghetto
Setting
In
Front
Of
White
Castle
I
Mean
Of
People
Are
Going
to
Look
What
Are
You
Talking
About
Yeah
For
Those
Who
Want
To
See
The
Crazy
Old
Guy
We
Have
Tiny
Url.com
Slash
Zulu
Four
Nine
Alpha
And
That's
The
Crazy
Old
Guy
At
White
Castle
Who
Was
I
Actually
Sadly
The
Picture
Is
Blurry
Enough
That
You
Can't
Actually
See
The
Bling
I
Don't
Think
Yeah
If
You
Know
Where
To
Love
You
Can
Kind
See
It
Smacked
Dab
In
His
Forehead
And
His
Chin
Yeah
Alright
So
Getting
Back
To
Hope
Since
We're
Talking
About
White
Castle
What
You
Think
Of
The
Area
They
Had
Yeah
I
Gotta
Be
Honest
I
Wasn't
My
Only
They
Didn't
Have
My
Talk
When
I
Went
To
Buy
It
So
I
Didn't
Hang
Out
There
Too
Much
Yeah
Actually
No
That
Was
Actually
Upstairs
There
Was
Two
Vendor
Are
With
The
18th
Floor
We
Could
Actually
Buy
DVDs
Of
The
Talks
Which
Was
Pretty
Cool
Because
They
Actually
Tried
To
Have
The
D
Burnt
Of
Talks
Within
About
Like
An
Hour
Of
It
Actually
Going
There
And
Apparently
There
Was
A
Run
On
Savant's
Talks
And
He
Can
Never
Actually
Buy
It
I
Actually
Didn't
Attempt
To
Buy
Mine
I
Wanted
To
Know
One
Security
Guy
Said
You
Looked
Like
You
Were
Wasted
And
I
Was
Like
Well
Hey
That
Was
A
One
Time
This
Weekend
I
Was
Totally
Lucent
Save
For
The
Fact
That
I
Been
Up
36
Hours
So
I
Don't
Know
If
Anybody
Saw
Feel
Free
To
Tell
Me
What
Sucked
Constructive
Criticism
Is
Always
appreciated
If
You
Liked
It
Wouldn't
Mind
Hearing
That
Yeah
If
You
Saw
My
Talk
And
You
Completely
Hated
It
Feel
Free
To
Tell
Me
I
Want to
Know
If
They're
Going to
Put
These
Videos
Up
Online
Or
Anything
Yeah
I
Think
You
Can
Buy
The
Videos
I
Know
They
Put
The
Audio
Up
And
I
Think
They
Put
The
Videos
Up
By
The
Next
Hope
Or
Something
Oh
Yeah
Oh
They
Sell
Video
CDs
I
Know
They
Sell
I
Think
The
DVDs
Are
Replacing
The
Video
CDs
This
Year
And
That's
What
They're
Trying
To
Do
And
I
Think
Eventually
They
Put
All
The
Old
Stuff
Up
And
Like
Including
Videos
So
Like
You
Condense
Down
To
Whatever
Boy
I
Would
Sure
Like
To
Get
A
Copy
Of
Project
MF
On
DVD
Yeah
I
I'm
Working
On
It
Yeah
There
Was
Actually
Another
Vendor
Area
That
Was
Down
On
The
Second
Floor
They
Had
Like
A
Book
Cellar
And
That
Was
Like
The
Only
Decent
One
There
And
Like
I
Thought
It
Was
Pretty
Crappy
Yeah
The
Assholes
From
Time
Think
Thought
You
Know
We're
Trying
To
Squat
A
Table
Saying
Yeah
You
Know
We're
Anarchists
Yeah
Actually
The
Funny
Part
Was
There
Was
Apparently
This
I
Don't
Know
Who
Was
Telling
Just
Like
You
Know
Anarchists
You
Know
Government
Sucks
Type
People
And
They
Were
Really
Obnoxious
And
They
Were
Really
Assholes
And
Apparently
They
Found
Out
That
These
People
Were
Like
This
All
The
Time
And
Friday
Like
They
Saw
One
Of
The
People
Were
There
From
There
And
They
Actually
Set
Up
Their
Little
Booth
And
Then
They
Saw
Him
Two
Hours
Later
And
One
Of
The
Guys
Getting
Arrested
At
Hope
This
Year
Two
Yeah
I
Don't
Know
What
To
Make
Of
This
I
Mean
It's
The
FBI
And
You
Know
Me
I'm
Actually
Kind
Of
Pro
Government
For
A
Computer
Geek
And
Apparently
For
Those
Of
You
Who
Don't
Know
Steve
I
Don't
Even
Know
What
His
Real
Name
Is
Steve
Rambam
Okay
So
Steve
Rambam
Otherwise
Steve
Rambam
Was
Giving
A
Talk
On
Basically
He
Got
This
Guy's
Home
Address
And
He
Got
His
Name
And
He
Was
Going
To
Give
A
Presentation
Of
All
The
Digital
Fingerprints
You
Can
Pull
Up
If
You
Actually
Know
What
You're
Doing
And
Apparently
It
Was
Pretty
Like
They
Called
It
A
Digital
Proctology
Exam
And
He
Pulled
Up
Information
Of
You
Know
His
Current
Cell
Phone
Provider
His
Mortgage
Titles
Deeds
For
Property
Amazing
Stuff
900
Pages
Worth
Of
Information
And
The
Funny
Part
Is
Apparently
This
Guy
I
Don't
Know
Where
He
Lived
Exactly
But
Apparently
There
Was
Another
Guy
In
Alabama
Spoofing
His
Social
Security
Number
And
They
Found
It
Because
I'm
Like
Whoops
But
Anyway
Right
Before
He
Was
Supposed
To
Give
This
Presentation
The
FBI
Came
In
And
Said
Yeah
You're
Coming
With
Us
And
They
Took
Him
Away
And
Apparently
What
Happened
Is
He
Was
He's
A
Private
Investigator
And
What
The
He
Was
Apparently
Working
For
Someone
Who's
Accused
Of
Money
Laundering
And
He
Went
To
Like
One
Of
The
Key
Witnesses
House
And
They
Say
He
Introduced
Himself
As an
FBI
Agent
Or
Provided
The
Illusion
That
He
Was
So
He
Got
Whisked
Away
To
Processing
For
Impersoning
A
Federal
Agent
Which
Is
One
Of
Those
Major
No
So
Yeah
It's
One
Of
Things
You
Don't
Want
To
Do
And
Everyone
Saying
Oh
You
Know
He
Never
Would
Do
This
And
This
Is
Kind
Of
Bullshit
And
They
Saying
Oh
These
People
Don't
Speak
English
I
Bet
But
Yeah
That
Was
Pretty
Cool
And
Actually
A
Lot
Of
The
Coverage
Was
Initially
Was
Done
By
Brian
Krebs
Of
The
Washington
Post
And
For
Those
Who
Don't
Know
He
Actually
Blogged
From
My
hotel
Room
At
The
Last
Year's
Def
Con
And
Because
It
Was
His
First
After
Conference
He
Gave
The
Tour
And
Said
You
You're
Welcome
To
Hang
Out
At
Our
Room
If
You
Want
And
He
Came
In
He
Was
Sitting
There
Blogging
And
If
You
Look
At
One
Of
The
Post
From
July
31st
2005
You'll
See
I'm
Sitting
In
The
Hotel
Room
With
One
Strom
Carlson
With
Like
You
Know
Apparently
The
Room
Is
Full
Of
Phone
Freaks
And
Pay
Phones
Hey
Didn't
We
Meet
him
Josh
Yeah
Actually
He
Comes
With
Lance
Right
Yeah
He's
Been
The
First
Rapport
On
Quite
A
Few
Issues
That
Secure
Science
Has
Been
In
Really
Great
Guy
Yeah
He's
A
Really
Nice
Guy
I
Met
Him
And
Actually
What's
Shocking
To
Me
Is
He
Remembered
Me
Where
I'm
Going
Up
On
The
Escalator
On
Friday
Afternoon
And
He
Says
You
Know
I
Just
See
This
Guy
Behind
Me
And
He
Says
You're
Black
Ratchet
Right
And
I'm
Like
Yeah
I
Look
At
Him
Funny
I'm
Like
Oh
Brian
Krebs
And
He
Remembers
Me
And
We
Chit
Chatted
For
Like
10
Minutes
And
You
Know
We
Just
Stop
Behind
See
My
Talk
You
Know
It's
Pretty
Fun
And
I
Was
Just
Impressed
That
He
Remembered
Because
Considering
That
I'm
Just
A
Random
Guy
That
He
Met
At
A
Hotel
Room
Which
Sounds
Really
Bad
I
Sound
Really
Bad
Especially
Because
It
Strom
Yeah
Exactly
That's
Why
He
Remembers
But
Yeah
He's
A
Really
Groovy
Guy
And
If
You
Ever
Have
A
Chance
To
Meet
Him
I
Mean
He's
Pretty
Cool
For
Technology
Journalists
He
Actually
Gives
The
Hacking
Scene
A
Very
Fair
Shake
Did
Any
Of
You
Stop
By
The
Ham
Radio
Station
They
Had
Set
Up
No
But
I
Saw
Winter
Mute
There
Pretty
Much
The
Whole
Time
Yeah
Winter
Mute
Yeah
He
Actually
Was
The
Control
Op
For
A
While
He
Started
Like
The
First
Day
He
Talked
To
Bernie
S
And
Said
Oh
Yeah
You
Know
I
Have
My
radio
License
And
Bernie
Was
Like
Oh
Geez
I
Have
All
This
Other
Stuff
Do
You
Do
You
Actually
Want to
Run
The
Radio
Station
So
He
Was
Sitting
There
At
The
Entire
Conference
And
Apparently
He
Did
A
Good
Job
They
Were
Talking
To
At
The
Hope
Conference
And
You
Could
You
Know
It
Was
A
Very
Nice
Introduction
To
Amateur
Radio
For
Those
Who
Didn't
Know
And
I
Think
It
Actually
Apparently
They
Got
13
New
Amateur
Radio
Licenses
Out
There
They
Ran
A
Test
Session
On
Sunday
Morning
Which
I
Actually
Was
Planned
To
Go
To
But
I
Never
Studied
And
So
I
Didn't
Take
My
Test
To
Upgrade
My
License
But
Apparently
There
Was
Like
13
People
There
Was
Like
20
People
Who
Took
The
Test
Or
Like
15
To
20
And
A
Good
Like
75
To
80
Of
Them
Actually
Passed
The
Test
So
There
Was
A
Fair
Share
Of
New
Ham
Radio
Guys
At
The
Hope
Conference
And
I
Made
Conference
On
I
Actually
Made
Contact
With
The
Amateur
Radio
Station
I
Borrowed
Someone's
Hand
Helped
Radio
And
Contact
Them
About
Chinese
QSL
Card
And
If
You
Don't
Know
What
A
QSL
Card
Is
Go
Back
To
Our
Amateur
Radio
Show
I
Don't
Even
Know
What
Episode
Is
130
Something
I
Think
Alright
Well
I
Think
We
Kind of
Roughly
Talked
About
Hope
Does
Anyone
Else
Have
Any
Fun
Stories
Besides
The
Crazy
Alcoholic
Guy
I
Was
Pretty
Tired
The
Whole
Time
Oh
I
Don't
Think
I
Don't
I
Don't
Think
I
Told
You
This
Part
I
Don't
Think
I
Actually
Did
Once
We
All
Left
White
Castle
You
Know
It
Was
Stank
Zero
DB
Myself
And
Not
Theory
Stank
Zero
DB
And
Not
Theory
Were
Going
To
Crash
At
Their
Hotel
Room
And
I
Was
Going
To
Head
Back
To
Mine
And
We
See
This
Guy
Crossing
7th
Avenue
And
We
Look
At
Him
Is
That
The
Guy
And
We
Couldn't
Tell
And
All
A
Sudden
We
Passed
Them
And
Look
At
His
Left
Hand
And
It's
Glowing
Green
And
That's
The
LED
That
He
Had
So
We're
Like
Oh
My
God
It's
The
Guy
That
Was
Pretty
Funny
We
Had
A
Nice
Hoot
Over
That
Wasn't
He
Asking
People
For
Change
So
He
Could
Get
Back
Underneath
The
Bridge
Hopefully
Unless
Somebody
Stole
Damn
Man
That's
What
New York
Does
They
Put
Your
Clues
Underneath
Bridges
Kind of
Like
Las
Vegas
I
Almost
Got
Mugged
Actually
Outside
Of
The
Restaurant
In
Hotel
Pennsylvania
Oh
Really
Yeah
I
Was
Having
A
Quick
Smoke
And
Saturday
Night
And
This
Guy
Comes
Up
To
Me
And
He
Is
Like
How
Do
You
Like
The
New
Bloomberg
Lounge
And
I
Was
Like
What
And
He
Was
Like
Oh
You're
Not
From
Here
Are
You
And
I'm
Like
No
He's
Like
Oh
Bloomberg
Lounge
You can't
Smoke
Inside
No
And
I was
Like
Oh
Well
Sorry
Man
You know
I'm
From
California
So
I've
Never
Been
Able
To
Smoke
Inside
Except
When
I
Was
A
Weed
Hike
And
I
Was
Like
You
Know
Yeah
That's
Not
Going
To
Do
It
He's
Like
Give
Me
Some
Money
I
Don't
Really
Have
Money
I
Came
With
A
Cart
I
Don't
Have
Money
For
You
He's
Like
Give
Me
Some
Money
Damn
I
Don't
Have
Any
I'm
Sorry
He
Like
Starts
Pacing
Around
In
This
Giant
Like
Crip
Walking
Circle
In
Front
Of
Me
He's
Like
Walk
You
Know
I
Have
A
New
Boat
He's
Freaking
Out
And
Eventually
I'm
Like
Okay
Dude
I'm
Out
Here
And
Just
Shuffle
My
Feet
Quickly
Back
Into
The
Side
Street
Of
The
Restaurant
But
Yeah
He
Was
About
To
He
Must
Get
On
Drugs
Naturally
Crazy
Yeah
Well
I
Mean
That
That's
Pretty
Freaky
Man
When
I
Told
Some
Of
The
People
Back
In
The
Restaurant
They're
Like
Yeah
Well
You
Welcome
New
York
Nobody
Cares
Like
Oh
Okay
I
Guess
This
Is
Every
Day
Yeah
It
Is
New
York
State
Of
Mind
There
Is
That
Knows
He
Knows
New
York
The
New
York
Expert
Unique
New
York
I
Don't
I
Was
I
Was
Got
To
Say
I
Was
Impressed
By
New
York
Although
Walking
Down
2
A.M.
With
Stank
And
Not
Theory
And
All
That
Guy
Back
To
My
Hotel
Was
A
Genuinely
Scary
Experience
Like
It
Was
Like
Crazy
Down
There
You
Are
We
Yeah
No
Seriously
We're
Walking
Down
7th
Avenue
Well
I
Wasn't
Expecting
It
What
Really
Freaked
Me Out
Is
All
Of
A
We're
Walking
Down
7th
Avenue
And
We
Crossed
The
Street
And
We
Get
To
A
New
Block
And
Apparently
It's
Like
The
Porno
Block
And
It's
Got
Like
Adult
Videos
And
Crazy
Ass
Lingerie
And
Nurses
Uniforms
Up
In
All the
Storefronts
And
Women
Hanging
Out
Front
And
We're
Like
Hmm
I
Wonder
Who
They
Are
Yeah
It's
Like
Whoa
Did
You
Get
Approached
Though
I
Got
Approached
That's
A
Good
Old
New
Yorker
Oh
No
I
Didn't
This
Chick
Was
Like
Six
And
Half
Feet
On
Her
Stiletto
Boots
And
She's
Like
Hey
Baby
You
Want
To
Have
Some
Fun
You
Want
To
Hang
Out
And
I'm
Like
You
Know
What
No
I'm
Good
I
Just
Need
To
Find
A
Bathroom
Oh
God
I
Know
Fair enough
Money
Yeah
Right
This
New
York
Yeah
You
Can
Be
Anywhere
You
Want
Baby
Fifty
Bucks
Oh
Man
Oh
Man
New
York
New
York
What a
Wonderful
Town
Right
But
Actually
It was
Pretty
Funny
Because
We
Were
Walking
Along
The
Block
And
All
Of
A
Look
Across
The
Street
And
There
Is
A
Hotel
That
I
Was
Originally
Going
To
Stay
Out
And
I
Was
Like
Oh
My
God
This
Would
Have
Been
Crazy
Walk
Out
In
The
Middle
Of
The
Morning
And
Just
See
All
These
Porn
Stores
And
Yeah
It's
Just
Like
The
Interweb
Oh
I
Just
State
That
If
You're
Ever
In
The
New
York
Area
There
There's
An
Irish
Pub
There
Not
Too
Far
From
The
Hotel
Pen
Called
Pier
Nanag
Don't
Go
There
Ever
Met
In
My
Life
You
Know
There's
Cock
Blocked
And
Then
There's
Like
Just
Execution
Style
Assassinated
I
Had
A
Bad
Experience
There
The
First
Night
I
Was
There
And
So
I
Am
Defaming
Them
From
Their
Customer
Service
I
Don't
Even
Want
To
Know
What
The
Bartender
Was
Doing
Let's
Just
Say
It
Involved
Me
And
Jean
And
A
Couple
Lovely
Young
Ladies
Whom
We
Had
Charmed
Into
Spending
A
Good
Portion
Of
Time
With
Us
And
We
Were
About
To
Go
Hang
Out
With
Them
Some
More
And
They're
Right
Behind
Us
And
We
Step
Out
To
Have
A
Cigarette
And
This
Jersey
Fuck
Who
Was
Faking
His
Irish
Accent
And
We
Called
Them
Out
On
A
Couple
Times
Locked
The
Door
Right
Behind
Us
After
4
A.M.
Last
Call
And
Smiled
At
Me
Or
Some
Other
Equally
Fake
Accent
And
So
We
Were
Left
To
Return
With
Our
Tails
Between
Our
Legs
And
So
Yeah
Don't
Drink
There
That
Guy
Will
Shoot
You
Down
Oh
Geez
Here
I
Was
Thinking
You
Trying
To
Pick
Up
The
Irish
Bartender
Man
Yeah
Wow
Someone
Just
Launched
Another
Artillery
Strike
At
us
Right
Crap
Hey
Brad
What's
Your
Address
Seriously
Are
They
Still
Are
They
Lighting
Fireworks
Inside
Your
House
Again
Yeah
I
Think
So
Man
It
Was
Just
Like
This
Really
Bright
Flash
Of
Light
And
Boom
Like
A
Quarter
Stick
Of
Dynamite
It
Crazy
Should
No man
We should
Like
You know
Hack into
NORAD
Whistle
Some
Missiles
Off
Okay
Well
Hold
On
Yeah
That
Was
The
Other
Bum
Thing
That
Happened
At
Home
Apparently
Mitnick
Got
Owned
By
A
Virus
And
Not
Just
Any
Virus
The
Actual
Human
One
So
He
Actually
Couldn't
Make
The
Conference
He
Tried
To
Get
On
CNN
The
Next
Day
After
The
It
Was
On
CNN
He
Tried
To
Get
Like
A
Plane
It
Was
On
CNN
Dot
Com
Sorry
Action
Yeah
It
Was
Like
Front
Page
News
It
Was
Like
You
Know
Hacker
Couldn't
Make
It
To
Hacker
Conference
Or
Something
I'm
Like
What
The
Heck
Is
This
And
Yeah
Oh
No
Hacker
Gets
Taken
Down
By
Virus
And
I'm
Like
What
The
Hacks
Up
With
This
It
It's
Got
Mitnick's
Picture
On
There
And
He
Was
Like
Oh
You
Know
Kevin
Mitnick
Tried
To
Make
It
To
The
It
Was
Like
They
Called
Like
The
World
Hacking
Conference
In
New
York
Wow
Man
I
Guess
I
Went
To
A
Pretty
Famous
Place
And
He
Was
Trying
To
Get
On
To
The
Plane
In
Columbia
Where
He
Was
And
He
Couldn't
Make
It
He
Got
Taken
To
The
Hospital
Because
He
Had
A
Stomach
Flu
I'm
Like
Ouch
He
Wasn't
That
Especially
In
Columbia
Here
We
Go
Yeah
Man
Ah
I
Don't
Know
If
You
There
We
Go
The
Celebratory
Post
Hope
Bottle
Rockets
Yeah
Man
I
Bet
That
Intimidated
The
People
Down
Of
Mine
Considering
They're
On
The
Opposite
Coast
Yeah
Man
I
Just
Launched
The
Intracontinental
Ballistic
Bottle
Rocket
At
You
Boys
Take
That
Perhaps
A
Nice
Game
Of
Chess
So
I
Yeah
It was
Pretty
Cool
With
The
Whole
I
Was
Like
CNN
I
Was
Seeing
Mitnick's
Picture
Up
There
And
Saying
Yeah
He
Got
Taken
Down
I'm
Like
Ouch
I'm
Like
I was
Talking
This
In
The
IRC
Room
And
I
Was
Like
I'm
Surprised
Like
Mitnick
Didn't
Have
These
Super
Elite
Human
Antivirus
Installed
On
Somewhere
I
Don't
He
Got
Social
Engine
He
Got
Seed
Downgrading
Yeah
Alright
So
That
Was
Hope
I
Think
We
All
Had
Everyone
Had
A
Very
Good
Time
And
I
Think
I
Don't
Know
Who
Wasn't
There
That
We
I
Think
Most
Of
The
Troops
Was
There
Troops
Wasn't
There
Troops
And
But
He
Had
That
Real
Life
Stuff
Coming
Up
So
We
Can't
Late
For
That
Yep
Who
Else
Wasn't
There
Not
Theory
Was
There
For
Friday
Night
And
That
Was
It
Though
He
Kind
Of
Wimped
Out
For
Weekend
Yeah
Not
Theory
Was
Like
Mr.
Houdini
He
Shows
Up
And
Then
He
Wee
It
Like
Poof
He's
There
And
He's
Gone
It
Was
Cool
Though
A lot
Of
People
Got
To
Meet
Dakota
He
Came
Down
Where
Was
Thursday
Night
No
That
Friday
Night
Right
Thursday
Night
Yeah
He
Was
There
Thursday
Yeah
I
Couldn't
Make
It
Friday
Night
So
I
Couldn't
Meet
Him
I
Was
Like
Oh
You
Didn't
Get
To
Meet
Him
Damn
No
I
Didn't
No
I
Wasn't
There
Thursday
Oh
Really
Damn
I
Actually
Got
Off
The
Train
And
A
Little
Before
New
York
City
And
He
Picked
Me
Up
There
And
Hung
Out
With
Him
For
A
Little
Bit
Before
Going
Down
On
Thursday
Night
Now
With
Him
And
Not
There
Good
Shit
Yep
Okay
So
Yeah
Good
Time
Was
Had
By
All
And
Really
I
Mean
We
Were
Kind
Of
Bad
Mouthing
Hotel
Pennsylvania
And
Kind
Of
Making
Fun
Of
Hope
Compared
To
Def
Con
But
I
Gotta
Say
It
Was
A
Fun
Time
And
I
Would
Definitely
Go
Again
Yeah
I
Must
Say
Once
They
Master
The
Travel
Between
The
West
And
East
Coast
A
Little
Faster
Than
Yeah
I
Definitely
Make
The
Next
One
Yeah
Once
Savant
Gets
His
Transporter
Going
Yeah
He
Gets
To
Beam
Up
He's
Like
Yeah
How
About
That
Shit
I
Would
Say
We're
A
Personal
Helicopter
No
Screw
That
It's
Could
An
SR-71
Be
There
In
Like
Five
Minutes
Yeah
Make
PayPal
SR-71
Do you
Have
Me
Sweet
We
Get
The
Bin
Ref
SR-71
What
Is
It
No
What
Did
I
Always
Want
I
Always
Wanted
The
Austin
Powers
747
That
He
Had
With
All
The
Psychedelic
Colors
On
It
Did
You
Hear
Google
You
Get
Like
A
Bin
Rev
747
With
A
Huge
Bin
Rev
Logo
On
The
Tail
Did
You
Hear
That
Google
Bot
A
747
Yeah
Aren't
They
In
Like
Some
Type
Of
Legal
Battle
Over
It
I
Don't
Know
Actually
I
Just
Heard
That
They
Bought
It
And
They
Were
Planning
On
Ripping
Out
The
Inside
And
Converting
It
For
The
CEO
And
Like
The
Important
People
At
Google
Well
Apparently
Like
I
Remember
Hearing
This
Some
Apparently
They
Bought
It
From
Someone
And
That
Person
Apparently
Leased
It
From
Somebody
Else
And
That
Other
Person
The
Person
They
Leased
It
From
Wants
It
Back
Or
Something
Like
That
It
Says
No
You
Can't
Do
That
It
Yeah
It's
It
Anyway
Announcements
Def
Con
Is
At
The
Hotel Riviera
This
Week
Friday
Through
Sunday
I think
It
Is
And
Are
You
Are
You
Guys
Going
I'm
Not
Going
No
I'm
Going
No
I'm
Not
Going
I think
Yeah
I'm
Lame
I could
See
On
The
East
Coast
Unlike
Natus
I don't
Have
My
Personal
Weirjet
Taking
Me
Places
Yeah
And
If
Anyone's
Going
To
Black
Cat
As
Well
Hit
Me
Up
On
The
IRC
Channel
I'd
Love
To
Meet
Up
With
Some
More
You
Guys
Who
Are
Going
To
Be
There
Earlier
In
The
Conference
So
We
Can
Have
Like
A
Pre
Con
Or
Even
If
You're
Just
In
Las
Vegas
Early
Let's
Get
Together
And
Have
Some
Drinks
Oh
You're
Going
To
Black
Hat
Oh
I
Hate
You
A lot
That'd
Be
Sweet
If
I'm
Working
I'll
Be
Sure
To
Give
A
Detailed
Report
Yeah
Definitely
I'm
Going
To
Pump
You
For
Infos
Yeah
So
And
Also
Black
Hat
Which
Is
Apparently
When
Is
Black
Hat
Happening
We'll
Talk
To
The
Announcements
Two
Days
Prior
To
Def
Con
So
Let me
Pull
Up
My
Hand
New
Calendar
Here
Which
Is
Wednesday
And
Thursday
Yeah
That's
Second
And
Third
Yeah
I
Think
Oh
Yeah
True
Second
And
There
First
Because
It's
The
First
Today
On
Tuesday
Yeah
So
Tomorrow
And
The
Day
After
If
You're
Going
To
Black
Hat
Send
Shouts
Out
To
Savant
There
Yeah
Come on
Speaking
Of
Shouts
I'll
Send
Shouts
Out
To
Everyone
I
Met
At
Hope
And
Everyone
That
Came
To
My
Talk
And
Didn't
Get
To
See
My
Slide
So
Definitely
Shouts
Out
Are
We
Doing
Shouts
Already
Yeah
Come
On
Well I
Think
That's
About
It
That's
All
In
The
Show
Novellas
Right
Here
We're
Actually
Running
Out
Of
Time
I
Don't
Want
To
End
It
I
Had
Fun
Yeah
Well
Wait
Maybe
We
Can
Get
You
On
Black
Ratchet
You
Did
Not
Talk
For
One
Second
About
The
Newest
Program
That
You
Had
Written
For
Me
And
That
For
Cubed
Oh
Well
I
Think
We're
Going
To
Actually
Have
To
Talk
About
That
Later
Because
We
Are
Definitely
Running
Show
On
Time
Here
But
Yeah
I
Mean
I
Had
To
We
Did
Kind
Of
Like
Gloss
Over
Personal
Hacking
Stories
Because
We
Were
Just
Technically
All
Our
Personal
Hacking
Stories
We're
Talking
About
Hope
So
We
Sort
Glossed
Over
That
But
We'll
Talk
About
That
I'm
Coming
Back
I'm
Going
To
Be
There
Maybe
I'll
Show
On
A
Troops
Episode
Or
Something
But
If
You
Want
To
Go
To
My
Website
It'll
Probably
Be
Info
Posted
On
There
By
Then
Black
Ratchet
Dot
Or
And
See
My
Latest
New
Toy
That
I
Whipped
Up
For
Savant
It's
On
The
For
Yes
It is
On
The
For
As
Well
My
Shouts
Are
To
Everyone
Who
I
Met
At
Hope
And
Especially
Big
Thanks
To
Everyone
Who
Dragged
Their
Asses
Out
Of
Bed
To
See
A
Talk
At
10
A.M.
On
Sunday
So
Big
Problem
Namely
Not
Addison
I
So
Yeah
Addison
Do you
Have
Any
Shouts
I
Have
Shouts
To
Everybody
Word
Takes
The
Cop
Out
Okay
Email
Radio
Open
Rev.com
If
You
Want
To
Talk
About
Hope
I
Sure
They'll
Squeeze
On
Next
Week's
Show
I
I'm
Not
Even
Sure
What
The
Show
Next
Week
Is
Going
To
Be
About
So
Droops
Will
Be
Here
I
Will
Not
Be
Let's
See
And
Closing
Music
I
Didn't
Actually
Put
Closing
Music
Tonight
So
It's
Going
To
Be
Whatever
I
Download
Off
The
Interweb
At
That
When
I
Decide
To
Post
Produce
Post
Production
So
It's
Your
Favorite
The
Bar
High
On
This
One
So
I
Don't
Know
How
We
Are
Going
To
Do
This
With
The
Whole
Two
People
Here
I
Guess
You
Have
To
Say
It
In
Unison
Or
Something
So
See
You
Next
Week
Same
Hack
Time
Same
Hack
Channel
Half
The
Time
Half
The
Three
Sigma
Slow
Three
New
rone
Two
One
Five
We'll be right back.