This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers, to the hackers and the crackers.
I see in binary, I speak source code, step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you
and a fag pwned.
In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho, cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold.
I was a dick with my 56, now with my cable I'm able to get that stable.
On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo. On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero.
In a flash, I'll screw you on burning Dreamcast. You need some ISO? Let me through my hard drive rifle.
Our exchange you could never stifle. In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug.
I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z.
Your CG, it's all gonna be free, whether we take it by force or we take it nicely.
You feel that rattling your bones? When I tell you we just hacked out Jones.
And NASDAQ leaves you flat on your back, cause I am he who loves to hack and crack.
Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack.
This is dedicated to the hackers and the crudents.
Serial codes, source codes, ISOs, RANS, SIFs, SIFs.
This is dedicated to the hackers and the crack.
Yes, you can believe it.
You are hearing me, Stank Dog, on Binary Revolution Radio episode number 191.
Finally coming to you today, April 10th, 2007.
We finally got a new episode up.
We had some delays there, some things that came up that were a little bit out of our control.
But we are back, at least for this week.
I'm not sure what next week's gonna hold, but I guess let's talk about that in a couple seconds.
First of all, I should mention that my co-host today is absolutely nobody.
I am doing this episode Millennium Falcon style, baby.
That's right, flying Han solo up in this biatch.
Got no co-host with me, so you are stuck with the dog on this episode.
And we do have a few topics to talk about.
I don't need no stinking co-host.
Although the show would probably be much, much better if I had one.
But, you know, we're gonna do what we can do.
And today actually literally is April 10th, a Tuesday.
I am recording this just before we go live because I did have an opening in my schedule to actually get one done.
So, a few things to talk about in housekeeping before we go there, though.
So, that we are in the process, or actually hopefully finished at this point, moving servers once again.
Yes, I know we did this, what, three, four months ago, two, three months ago.
But, well, quite frankly, the hosting company that we are slash were with was just not cutting the mustard.
They weren't giving us what we expected from the server, from the hosting, from the support side of things.
And physically the server was fine.
It had enough power to get by in the short term.
But we kind of, we knew that this was gonna be short term, maybe last another year or so on that server
before we were going to frankly have to look at possibly upgrading again as the site continues to grow.
So, we kind of killed two birds with one stone by finding another hosting company.
First of all, we upgraded the server once again.
We have even more power, more memory.
So, we should be good on this server for a good couple of years, if not longer.
So, hopefully we will be staying put if the second part of this equation comes into play.
And that is the fact that we went with a total managed solution when we switched servers this time.
That is to say that in the past we've been doing self-management.
Now, we all know Linux pretty well and I have a few years of experience self-taught in maintaining and managing this server over the years.
But we've gotten to the point where we've grown so big that the time that it takes to maintain a server like this
and the constant monitoring and watching of it is just something that is really starting to wear on me.
It's starting to dig into my time that I need to produce well to shows like this one.
I haven't done a lot of writing in a while and I've got a ton of articles in my head that I want to get down on paper.
Creating content for Hack TV, everything.
You know, it actually slows me down from actually producing content, which is what I enjoy doing.
So, when we switched to this last hosting company, we were looked for only managed services
and we had an offer of total management of the server.
And I guess long story short, without going into details, because technically we still have not canceled that server quite yet.
So, without going into details of who, where, and why, we'll just say that it did not live up to expectations.
So, we have shopped around and found a good deal from a company called Karo.net.
So, you will see probably us talking about that in the forums and on the sites occasionally.
Hopefully, our experience with them will be better.
I can tell you that so far, it is very much.
And they have taken very good care of us on working with us on this new server, giving us a good price, giving us great support so far.
So, you'll have to forgive me if I will be pimping them out for a while.
They are actually going to be kind of a sponsor, if you will, of the show.
So, that being said, let's move into the show itself and actually jump right into the mailbag.
And our first email.
Now, you've got to realize also that we're backed up on email.
So, we're going to have a pretty large email section on this week's show.
But our first email comes from Swooz, which is kind of a fun name to say.
Swooz, S-W-O-O-Z, who says,
Stank and featured co-host or substitute host.
First of all, you're owned, bitch.
You don't have a co-host this week.
It's just me, biatch.
There, get that out of my system.
Swooz says, I've been a faithful listener since episode circa 90
and have been listening to another internet radio podcast or whatever since 1996.
But have more recently switched to BinRev due to the lack of tech, tech talk,
and the emphasis on politics on the other show.
So, yes, the other show does put a lot of emphasis on politics and we try to avoid it here.
So, that's all well and good.
Now, you know, that being said, you don't have to switch to BinRev.
You can listen to both.
I mean, I still listen to other shows.
I'm not going to assume what you're referring to,
but I still listen to other shows sometimes when I have the time.
So, I appreciate the sentiment nonetheless.
Now, Swooz goes on to say,
I just wanted to write a quick note to say how much I'm anticipating the next episode.
Well, yeah, you might want to second guess that after you hear me talking all by myself for the next hour.
I check your website every night in hopes to listen to your hack cast before retiring for the evening and you are missed.
Idea for a show?
I like to see the show on buffer overflows, explanation of the stack,
and just good conversation going on about that.
Just a thought.
Keep up the good work, fellas.
Okay.
Well, thank you, Swooz, for that.
I appreciate it.
As far as the show topics now, we've discussed that exact topic in the past,
but the problem with it is it's just very, very difficult to explain verbally when we have just the radio as a medium.
That's really a topic that needs some visual aid, some illustrations and code possibly to really get the point across.
We are, however, going to give it a shot sometime.
It's on the list of things we've been wanting to talk about for quite some time.
We just haven't figured out exactly how to organize it and put it together into an episode of the show.
I know a lot of the longtime listeners have heard reference to my show novels, show notes that I write before every show.
I sit down.
I mean, even tonight, quite honestly, I'm doing the show by myself.
I could have completely lied and just flown by the seat of my pants,
but I did sit down and put together show notes that took me about a half hour, 45 minutes to put them together for even a show as short
and as straightforward as this, doing it by myself.
And when we have a more complex topic, it's going to take much longer because I will sit with the co-host
and we will organize and say, okay, what would be the best way to ease our way into the topic,
make sure everybody's brought up to speed, make sure we don't leave anybody behind.
You know, what do we need to explain before we explain the stack?
What do we need to explain before we talk about buffer overflows?
What do they have to understand?
What concepts and things do they have to know?
You can't just jump into buffer overflows.
So you've got to bring everybody up to speed.
Those are factors to take into account.
So that is something that a lot of people might not realize or take for granted,
that we put time into trying to make the show flow well.
We could just turn the mic on and start talking about it.
But that's not really what we like to do on BinRev Radio.
We try to be organized.
We may seem unorganized.
We may cuss a lot.
We may go off track sometimes.
But we do try to take some pride into putting together a show that flows,
that's organized, that gets the topics and points across.
And, you know, sometimes we fail, but at least we try.
So, yeah, it is on our list of topics to talk about.
I think we're probably going to have to yell at Verbal to co-host that one with us.
That's something that he would probably be really good at explaining.
So we did set the stage for this, however.
It was episode 167 where we talked about IP switching, about TCP IP, and some networking concepts.
So that would be a prerequisite episode.
So certainly go back and listen to that because that is something you would definitely need to understand
before we go into another deeper topic.
And we'll jump into the second email this week that comes from Virtual.
Virtual said that the last episodes get on the air because I did not see them uploaded on the website.
Also, do you need someone to do show notes?
I am new to the BR community, but I'm ready to pitch in.
So, two emails.
We'll go ahead and talk about it now.
The story with the show is pretty simple.
It's not all that complex.
As the regular listeners know, we've been basically handing switching co-hosting duties off for Season 4.
Season 1 and 2, I pretty much did myself.
I drove all of those episodes, co-hosted all of those.
Season 3 came along, and I kind of had a life change, new job, moving, that kind of thing.
So the show was handed over to Black Ratchet, who did the show for Season 3 and into Season 4.
And towards the end of Season 3, I think it was, and into Season 4, we kind of realized that he had some life-changing events
and same type situation and moving and whatnot.
So we both realized that it might be better if we started to split the show up and try to share the hosting duties.
And we've done that pretty successfully so far through the end of Season 3 and so far through Season 4.
And I had some deadlines, have some deadlines that are still ongoing right now as we speak.
And I knew in advance that this was going to be a rough month for me.
So we were going to tag out and let Black Ratchet take the show back over.
But unfortunately, he had an emergency come up at the last minute as well.
And normally when that happens, I will step in and fill in, even though I'm booked up or it's someone else's turn, I'll still step up.
And this was just a case where I simply could not do it.
I'm working late.
I'm not getting home until late into the evenings.
And it's just I haven't had the time to dedicate to putting together notes and topics and even physically recording.
It's just been that tight on time for me.
I've been traveling, which I do quite frequently for work.
So it's just been rough.
And that's the simple answer to why there haven't been a show.
Believe me, I take pride in putting this show out every week.
And then when we did occasionally miss one, for reasons explained earlier, I would try to fill in and do a double back-to-back episode and catch us up.
But not going to happen this week.
Sorry, guys.
You're stuck with this one episode and you're stuck with me for it.
So that's all there is.
That's the story.
And we will hopefully try to get back on some schedule.
I do not know what the future of the show is.
I'll be honest with you.
I do not know what we're going to do since it's kind of tough to do these every week.
I would have a tendency to think that at some point we are probably going to switch to biweekly format if we continue after season four.
So those are decisions that we are all working on right now.
So basically getting switched over to the new server reduces a lot of headaches for us.
So we will be talking about that within the DDP and figuring out who's available for what and take it from there.
So we will keep everyone in the loop.
Just tune in to BinRev Radio and we will let you know as soon as we possibly can.
And I think as far as the show notes go, that's another thing that I've fallen behind on.
I believe that I do have some show notes from Enigma who has sent me show notes and I just haven't put them all up yet.
So I think we're fairly caught up on those, but I appreciate the offer.
So that's something else I will have on my list of things to do.
Let me tell you, this is not a list.
This is like a novella of things to do.
This is just a complete, I mean, I don't know when I'll ever, ever get everything done that's on my list of things to do,
which is why it's always very helpful when people pitch in and help.
So I appreciate the offer.
In this case, I think we're okay, but I will keep your email address and get back to you if I decide to take you up on that.
And our next email this week, doesn't it suck to have to hear only my voice?
Like at this point is where, you know, somebody else would chime in with their thoughts and opinions and we, you know, have a little conversation.
But you're stuck with me.
And another thing that kind of sucks about this, I'm finding out, is that, like, you know, when someone else begins to talk,
that's when I'll take my opportunity to have a sip of my sweet iced tea.
Or in this case, I don't know why I'm still on this Kool-Aid kick, so I'm having some cherry Kool-Aid.
But I can't really stop and take a drink because you're going to get a lot of dead air, which is like the cardinal sin of radio.
Of course, I say um and ah a lot on the show, too, which is the other cardinal sin.
So, you know, who really cares?
But it kind of makes it a little bit difficult.
But I am going to take a sip of some cherry Kool-Aid and continue on to our next email from Prince Vegeta, who has emailed us before.
Prince Vegeta says, Dear host and that other guy.
Well, you got owned, too, bitch!
There is no other guy.
It's me!
Deal with it!
Prince Vegeta says, Unlike Linux, a Windows OS tends to...
Okay, also keep in mind, everyone, that these are emails from past episodes.
We've been gone for a few weeks, so these are going to be all over the place.
They're going to run the gamut of topics.
This one is...
Let's see, where was I?
Unlike Linux, a Windows OS tends to self-destruct after installing it.
So, from the moment you install it, it's in a constant process of alteration.
I mean that with more programs you install, and the more stuff you do, it starts to work slower and slower.
So, no matter what precautions you take when installing programs, the Winbox just dies, and you have to reinstall it at least once every two months.
Yowza!
Two months, man, that's rough.
I hate having to reinstall Windows.
I do it as rarely as possible, but I do know people that make it a thing they do every six months.
I've never heard two months.
That's kind of drastic, I guess.
But, anyway, Prince Vegeta goes on to say,
That means installing, configuring, etc., etc., lots of boring work.
One solution is VMware.
The other one is a drive cloning program.
I use two of these.
The first is called Drive Image XML.
It's free, and you can add it as a plug-in for your BART PE disk and run it straight off your BART PE Win CD in case something goes wrong with your PC.
Wow, did I just throw out, like, the entire fucking alphabet on that, or what?
I install Windows XP and all my favorite programs.
I consider all my settings just the way I like it.
I scan my disk for Vista, which is viruses, intruders, spyware, trojans, and adware.
That's an unfortunate acronym that I'm sure Microsoft hopes that doesn't stick.
I refragment, I defragment, excuse me, my drive, and I'll refragment my drive.
That would be extremely counterproductive.
I might make that as a joke, April Fool's program, a refragmenter.
Let's see, I defragment my drive.
I boot BART PE and back it up.
Six gigs of WinGoodness equals one two-gig backup file.
By the way, you need to store the backup file on another partition.
Because this copies my disk sector by sector, if I restore my backup, which takes about ten minutes, guess what?
All my programs installed and configured in my HDD is defragmented.
Great.
There's just one small problem.
The partition that you backup must be the same as the one you plan on restoring.
And I mean exactly the same.
So if you decide to permanently modify your partition size, you need to restore the backup, resize the disk, and make the backup again.
Yeah, that's also a common refrain I hear from people that are using Ghost and stuff like that.
I think more recent versions of Ghost are better.
But the very early version of Ghost, before Symantec bought it, also had that problem where they had to be identical with the drives when they were restoring them.
And there were also problems with Windows and their licensing issues where you were installing it to something that had even a fractional tiny bit of hardware difference.
It would unlicense itself and force you to handle that problem, which was a pain in the rear end.
Let's see.
Where was it?
So if you decide to permanently modify your partition size, you need to restore the backup, resize, and make the backup again.
The second program is not free, and it's called, okay, I'm not sure if I'm going to pronounce this, Acronis, A-C-R-O-N-I-S, Drive Image Something.
I guess he doesn't know the name either, so it's okay if I can't pronounce it.
I use this because it can also do Linux FS.
I guess it's better, but I like the free one.
For example, this week I want Slackware installed, but next week I need SUS.
It's a great way for switching OSes on a single partition.
For example, this week I want Slackware installed, but next week I need SUS.
Hope this was helpful for those who lose precious time reinstalling that bloated piece of trash, in parentheses, called Windows.
So, wow, boy, did I stumble my way through that email.
But, yeah, no other guy this week, so you got owned.
Everybody got owned an email this week.
But thanks for the tip.
This is obviously a follow-up on our virtual computing episode.
We talked about VMware.
We talked about virtual environments and all the different uses of them.
So, yeah, we talked about it on the show, and that's one of many uses that people can have.
Home users can take advantage of virtual PC, virtual computing, at a performance hit.
But businesses really, really love it, and it's become an even bigger buzzword each passing day because businesses that have the big cash,
they can buy like a nice big high-end box and run all these virtual images of all the environments that they could imagine
and have a lot of boxes for text testing and not actually have to have the physical boxing around cluttering up their data center
and, you know, paying for each individual box adds up.
It ends up being much, much cheaper if they can buy one high-end machine and then virtualize everything.
So, businesses love this a lot more right now.
Home users, certainly it has its uses, just like the one that Prince Vegeta described,
and a lot of testing we can do, a lot of, well, from the hacking standpoint or security standpoint,
you can do a lot of attack and defense methods on your own systems safely.
And if you screw something up, you know, you can simply go back to the image.
So, again, we've talked about a lot of that, so we won't go into that too much detail.
You can go back and find that episode.
The other thing is that, oh, man, what did I do here?
I cut my email all up.
But the other thing is that as PCs do become more and more and more powerful like they are right now,
the performance hit that users at home take is really dwindling.
I mean, you can certainly do a lot of stuff at home without having a huge performance hit.
So, it's kind of interesting that to see, I guess, how long it's going to take
before we can really start running a lot of virtual environments at home.
I'm sure people can email me and tell me, yeah, I'm running 3, 4, 5, 10, whatever.
I know Not Theory, of course, is a huge supporter and proponent of it.
He uses multiple environments.
But I think it's really going to roll out.
Right now, it's just people who are really realizing to see the potential of it.
But it's going to really roll out for common, everyday users.
I think probably within the next years as PCs become more powerful
and the prices continue to drop on the hardware,
virtual computing is definitely the wave of the future.
So, thank you for that email.
Next email this week comes from, well, we're going to call him KJ.
KJ says, live USB are easy.
Okay, and this is a follow-up to the episode I did with Ubix about USB key applications,
making your own USB key with lots of hacking goodness on it.
So, KJ says, live USB are easy to make them Linux live USB.
Linux distros can be as small as 30 megs,
and I'm not talking about a bash plus kernel plus GNU tools and that's it.
I'm talking about a whole full desktop with window manager, browser, office suite,
network monitor, partitioners, etc.
So, here is the rundown.
Gparted, USB live and is just 30 megs.
Damn small Linux, USB live is just 50 megs.
Puppy Linux, USB live is just 75 megs with Opera slash SeaMonkey.
And Pen Linux used for 128 meg USB.
You can also have a USB live derivative.
So, that is another cool tip.
And, like I said, I know we did the episode with Ubix
because Ubix has a few projects over on the Hack5 site
on making, like, a couple of killer USB drives.
Tons of apps that you can put on there, how useful they can be,
scripting a lot of things, which is very, very cool.
But I wouldn't mind seeing, like, a thread or two in the BinRev forums
of several different USB drive projects for several different purposes.
Like the one in this email.
You know, like, maybe another drive focusing on security apps.
Maybe one for productivity apps, etc., etc.
Kind of like a recipe book for USB devices
where you list the file sizes, like, exactly like we did in this email.
List the file sizes and all the files that you would put on there.
The size of the drive that you're dealing with.
Because, you know, the other thing is not everybody can go out
and buy, like, a 2-plus gigabyte USB key.
You know, and we don't all have the money, A.
And, B, you know, how much, it's kind of cool to see
how much leatness can be thrown onto a small drive.
Like, I know probably a lot of our listeners have
even 32, 64, or 128 megabyte keys laying around
or maybe that we even use on a daily basis.
But especially, I've got some old 64s, I think,
that are laying around here or there
that I can't really put big files on.
They're not too awful useful
unless you're just transferring some documents here or there.
But it would be cool to see within that limitation
what kind of a distribution or what kind of tools
or what kind of theme you could put on one key like that.
So within a limitation, list, you know,
what cool window manager you could put on there,
what cool apps you might put on there,
and see if you could put together, you know,
even maybe name it, maybe go so far as to pimp your USB key.
You can paint it, put logos, give it a name,
put the whole recipe out there.
We'll have a page dedicated to it.
Yeah, okay, I'm getting a little corny.
But point being, it would be kind of cool
to have like a recipe book of different people
and what they've done with their drives
and maybe learn from each other,
maybe take that and develop your own derivatives
and your own drives.
So they don't necessarily have to be live,
USB live, bootable, Linux ones.
They could be, you know, Windows apps.
They could be Linux apps.
Like I said, anything that you guys can think of
I think would be cool to read and see.
And, you know, a lot of people, you know,
most of the listeners of this show
do a lot of roll their own applications,
roll their own stuff.
But a lot of people, let's be honest,
a lot of people out there go out and search Google
and they just want step-by-step directions.
Copy file A, copy file B, copy file C,
install to hard drive, follow these steps,
install to USB key.
A lot of people want those written directions
simplified like a recipe that they can follow.
So I think that might be a cool thing
that a lot of people would be interested in.
Hey, maybe I'm wrong.
Who knows?
I've been wrong before.
I was wrong once.
Well, I thought I was wrong,
but I was actually mistaken.
Yeah, think about that recursion.
Next email this week
is from Killa Office Monkey.
K-O-M.
Killa Office Monkey.
Killa Office Monkey says,
Hello, random binrev hosts.
I have a question.
I asked this question in the forums,
but nobody could give me an answer
because of the number of connections.
The question I have,
is there a way to link, say,
five different interweb connections,
two Ethernet, three wireless,
to make them as one connection
so I can take five to six megabit connection
and use it as one big pipe?
Any suggestions?
Okay, first of all,
you got on, too,
because hosts with an S is plural
and I am flying solo.
So, eat it.
Let's see.
As far as the topic at hand,
let me,
I'm going to go ahead
and qualify this answer up front
by saying that I'm talking out of my ass here.
Okay?
But, that being said,
the first thing I would ask
is exactly where
and in what capacity
you're trying to do this.
What I mean is,
if you're asking about
whether you can soup up
like your home Windows box
to use multiple resources,
then the quick answer is no.
It doesn't really work like that.
If that's what you're shooting for,
I mean,
imagine like if you're war driving
and you get a bunch of
wireless access points
or you're in an airport
or someplace
with lots of internet,
wireless internet connections
that you could all use
at the same time.
You could compound them all,
use all that bandwidth.
Never heard of anybody doing that.
It's just not possible
for multiple reasons.
Now, I'm not saying
not completely possible.
I'm saying not easily possible.
And, pretty realistically,
I think I can say that.
It's for multiple reasons,
but mostly it's because
you have multiple IP addresses involved
because those are independent networks
that don't communicate
with each other.
You could possibly solve
the IP addresses
with multiple cards
and each card connecting
to a different network.
But even then,
asking those cards
to cooperate with each other,
the network stack
doesn't exactly work that way.
I don't think it could
exactly handle that.
You know,
you've heard probably
us talk about on the show before
having two network cards
in your laptop,
for example,
where one is bringing data in
and one is feeding data back out,
a man-in-the-middle type attack.
Those are two independent
connections of each other.
One's transferring data
to the other one.
They're not actually
doubling up the bandwidth
by connecting to the same network.
They're two separate things.
So,
it's not exactly,
if that's what you're shooting for,
then the short answer
is no.
You can't really easily do that.
Now again,
if anybody listening
knows otherwise,
by all means,
write in and let me know,
but I don't think there's
an easy way to do this
if there's even a way at all,
especially Windows.
Now,
on the other hand,
if you're talking about
running like a network data center
or something for a company,
then the answer is
kinda,
kinda yes.
And,
it's yes,
but I say kinda
because this is where
a lot of the higher end
networking equipment
comes into play.
I'm not sure about
the wireless part of this
again.
The wireless part
of your equation,
honestly,
wireless is really
just a different medium
that still stems
from some sort of
wired link.
So,
unless you have access
to control that
incoming wired link,
the wireless is just
another kinda segment
along the way.
It's kinda relaying it,
so it's not exactly
as easy.
Now,
it may be possible,
but I've just never seen
the two mixed like that.
So,
I actually would be
interested to hear
if anybody's ever
successfully mixed the two,
but I don't think that's,
it's certainly not common.
Now,
to the wired part
on the other hand,
yeah,
that's exactly what
data centers do.
You've got multiple
pipes coming in,
and,
you know,
if you need to have
more bandwidth,
you need to upgrade,
you add another pipe
and add another line,
add another line coming in
from the phone company
or whatever.
And,
you have redundancy
in there as well,
so,
yeah,
this is exactly
what higher end
data centers do,
but that's not exactly
your typical
Ethernet connection.
You said Ethernet.
That's not your normal
everyday Ethernet connection.
These are fat digital pipes
that are using
high end multiplexers
and switches
and T1000
and Decepticons
and shit like that.
It's something
that's very high end.
Again,
it's something
that's not simple
to set up
for a small office
or a home office
or something like that.
Not,
again,
in my opinion.
Unless you happen
to have some
high end equipment
laying around
that'll handle that.
So,
honestly,
that's the best
that I can really explain it.
I admit,
I'm not a networking guy.
I'm a programmer,
so I can get by
with my networking,
but I'm pretty sure
that both of those scenarios
are pretty rough
and it's certainly
anything is possible.
We're hackers.
We know that,
but as far as there being
a cheap,
easy,
simple,
not that you asked for it
whether it was cheap
or simple or anything,
but if anybody out there
knows that there's a cheap,
easy way to pull this off
that I'm missing,
by all means,
email and set me straight
because I just don't see it.
But,
hey,
what do I know?
And,
you know,
let's wrap up the email
this week
with our last email
from Stack Smasher.
Stack Smasher says,
any word on when,
if ever,
Freak Factor will be back.
Thanks,
and always keep up
the good work.
Wow,
thank you,
Stack Smasher.
All I can say is,
everybody listening,
email Not Theory
and yell at him about it.
It's sitting right
on the edge of done.
I mean,
it's right there.
We've been testing it.
I know Ratchet and I
have talked about it
on the show
and we're like,
we both have thought
it's right there.
It's so close to being done,
but we haven't quite
gotten through the testing.
We'll be up with Not Theory
when he gets time
to test it
and we'll run into
a little snag
and just some little
small glitch
that has to be ironed out
and just hasn't
quite gotten done.
But it's sitting right there
teetering,
ready to go
and it's just,
oh,
it's kind of frustrating.
So I don't want to put out
any more teasers
because it could come out tomorrow,
it could come out
in six months.
And truthfully,
now that we have switched servers,
once again,
I know he's going to start
yelling at me
and yelling at me
and I'm going to break down
and cry.
Oh,
I'm just so tired
of the abuse.
But,
you know,
it's all worthwhile
when,
you know,
we end up making
sweet,
sweet love down by the fire
and having makeup sex.
So,
kind of makes it all
worthwhile,
I guess.
And on that note,
why don't we switch
into our main topic
of the day.
And the main topic
of this show
is April Fool's Day.
Yeah,
sorry,
nothing as dramatic
as Stack Smashing
and some of the other things
we talked about.
But,
I think a lot of people
have some questions
about not only
our April Fool's stuff,
but,
ah,
April Fool's in general.
I had to take a drink there,
guys.
You guys,
it's rough to sit here
and talk non-stop
by myself.
Maybe,
maybe I should like
change voices
and pretend I have
a different co-host
with me.
Maybe I should do like a,
have Beavis co-host
or have somebody else
I'll do voices,
but,
that would really
strain my throat.
But,
let's talk about
April Fool's Day
a little bit
because it's really,
I know it sounds
kind of funny,
but it's really
one of my favorite holidays.
It's something I look
forward to every year
because,
especially because of the,
I don't know,
there's kind of a tradition
on the global interweb
for April Fool's Day
and it's growing
year after year.
A lot of people
are realizing
that it's kind of fun.
You got one day
that you can,
you know,
kind of trick people
and play some pranks
on each other
and stuff like that
and it's just,
it's more traditional
than anything else,
but,
you know,
everybody has fun with it.
Sites,
you know,
like Slashdot,
for example.
Slashdot always does something.
This year,
they kind of put up
some fake
dig this
knockoff
where they pretended
like they were
allowing their users
to dig
and vote up stories
and things like that
and not only
did they do that
but if you read
some of them
they were kind of funny
the notes
and the comments
that were on them
so Slashdot always
does something fun
so everybody always
checks them out.
I like Think Geek.
Think Geek
always does some
pretty funny stuff.
They always put up
fake products
and I'd be curious
to see how many people
actually try to buy them.
So every year
they'll make up
some fake products
that they'll put in there
as real items to sell
so that's always
really funny.
Some of those,
because when you think about it
if you wanted to make up products
you could make up
some pretty silly stuff
and make up
some pretty funny ones
and actually this year
I think
apparently one of the
fake items that they made
I think it was an
8-bit tie
is what they call it
which was like
this old retro looking tie
with these ugly
big block graphics on it.
I think I heard
from somebody
that that was actually
so popular
people were actually
trying to order it
that they're actually
going through
with making a real item
out of that
that they're actually
making a real tie.
Maybe that's a
continuous April Fool's joke
that that's not really true
but somebody told me
that that was actually
a real product now
because people
actually wanted
this ugly
8-bit tie
with these big
block pixels on it.
So that's kind of cool.
ThinkGeek always does
something fun like that
every year.
eBay
did some stuff this year.
They had what they called
quote unbelievable deals
like selling flying carpets
and I think there was one
where you could
get your face on
Route Rushmore
or something like that.
I don't know if that was
a buy it now
or if that was a bid on thing
but again
kind of the funny idea
you can make stuff up
and have some fun with it.
I don't know if
I'm not a big eBay user
to be honest with you
but I don't know
if eBay has done that
traditionally.
I just heard about it
this year
and I don't know
if they did anything
last year
if that's something
they do every year
or not.
So maybe somebody
who knows eBay
could email in
and let me know.
Google of course
is famous.
They always do
something every year
and this year
they did a couple things.
One of them
that was kind of funny
and made you
kind of do a double take
was that they offered
the ability
to print out
your Gmail
and have it delivered to you.
They could actually
mail you
your email
which is kind of
a funny concept
especially any of us
in the business world
that have actually
seen this happen.
Some high managers
that still to this day
refuse to use
the global interweb
refuse to use email
whether it's from
ignorance
laziness
whatever
or they simply
can't comprehend
or figure out
how to use
the computer machine
in their office
and they'll have
secretaries
actually print off
the emails
for them.
A lot of
high end executives
and big companies
don't have
their assistants
or secretaries
or what not
go through the email
weed through them
answer even some of them
and only deliver
the ones that they think
are important enough
to be dealt with.
So that's not
uncommon printing it out
but obviously
when you're offering
that to everybody
on the global interweb
who has a Gmail account
that's kind of different.
I was actually thinking
maybe I should
write a little
routine in there
write a little script
that would actually
print out Pi
and have them
send that to me
that would be
a nice long
print out
but I guess
if I could figure
out how to email
to get Pi
into an email
continuously
somehow I could
deserve it
but the other thing
that Google did
this year
was they announced
something called
I think it was
TISP
which was a
toilet internet
service provider
where you could
install the equipment
into your toilet
to get internet
access.
Now again
I'm sorry
I have issues
with Google
Google
guess what
we invented
war shitting
a long time ago
admit you stole
the idea from us
war shitting
was copyright
and trademark
or I guess
technically it was
open creative
commons license
so I guess
they can take
war shitting
but anyway
we invented
war shitting
a long time ago
so that was
our idea first
Google
thank you very much
let's see
as far as more
let's see
oh Blizzard
is another one
that I've always
liked
they've always
done some
cool jokes
I'm not a big
gamer but I am
a Blizzard fan
I think they make
great games
and honestly
I don't play
any of their
games right now
I can't get
into that world
of Warcraft
I'll get addicted
and I'll be up
all night playing
the freaking thing
so I've avoided
that
but I still go to
their website
on April Fool's
Day because I
know they make
great jokes on
the site
they even go
all out
they make a
nice page
fake art
screenshots
and what not
so this year
they introduced
a new item
called the
tin foil helmet
for World of
Warcraft
which was
kind of cool
and pretty
doggone funny
actually
so that was
kind of cool
and maybe on a
more hackerish
note
the Pirate Bay
which probably
people outside
of this community
might not even
care or notice
that they know
they did this
but they made
an announcement
that they would
be moving
to North Korea
to have some
protection in the
embassy there
because of their
recent drama
alright so yeah
yeah blah blah
enough already
we don't need to
hear about all the
April Fool's
jokes on the
global interweb
the tubes are
filled with
April Fool's
jokes but
you know the
only one that
really matters
is BinRev
right
what did Bin
Rev do
for April Fool's
Day because
you know it
seems that we
confuse the hell
out of a lot
of people so
let me clarify
it because
it's actually
kind of a funny
story truthfully
well
let's go back
a couple of
years actually
like I said
I've kind of
made April Fool's
Day a tradition
I've done that
for the longest
time we've
always played
some kind of
prank
and the
other thing
too is
pulling off
a simple
you know
a simple
prank
you know we
could easily
put up a
thing that
says you
know OMG
BinRev has
been busted
by the feds
and stank
dogs in jail
and you know
stuff like
that
we've never
taken the
easy way
out
we've never
done anything
silly like
that
you know
we did the
OMG ponies
last year
which was
kind of
funny
which totally
by coincidence
is what
Slashdot did
they went
with the
ponies theme
as well
it was a
couple of
years ago
actually we
did do a
not exactly
a stank dog
has been
busted
type thing
but what
we did
was
we made
the announcement
that I
had been
taken in
for questioning
not for
myself
but because
see this is
where you got
to throw a
little bit of
social engineering
everybody knows
that it's
April Fool's
Day
you've got to
figure out
some way
to cast
a little bit
of doubt
in there
because no
one's going
to believe
anything you
say on
April Fool's
Day
you put up
a thing
that says
stank dog's
been busted
blah blah
blah
it's not
going to sell
very well
everybody's
going to be
like yeah
ha ha
how obvious
April Fool's
joke
blah blah
well
we kind of
take a little
time each year
to try to
come up with
something a
little bit
creative
and unique
and that
one we did
was kind
of funny
because we
posted up
and said
that I had
been brought
in for
questioning
well that
could have
left it
right there
saying that
I was busted
or that
the site
was busted
or something
we didn't
do that
we actually
spun it
a little bit
to say
no I'm
not being
busted
I'm being
questioned
because one
of our
forum members
posted something
illegal on
the site
and I'm
being asked
to give up
that information
of who it
is
now
it's still
if that
was in
and of
itself
you know
just saying
that I'm
taking in
for questioning
is one
thing
but saying
that it's
because I'm
refusing to
divulge
information
on other
people in
the forums
what that
does is
it plants
that seed
of doubt
in people's
mind
because there
were people
and I'm
not going
to drop
names
but we
have a lot
of logs
from all
that too
for our
own fun
and internal
purposes
of people
who were
really freaked
out because
they started
thinking
well wait a
minute
I wonder
if it's me
I wonder
what I
posted
in the
forums
oh my
gosh
I need
to go
delete
this
oh I
need to
go find
and edit
that
people
started
really
freaking
out
in IRC
some of
them
legitimately
some of
them
were like
you know
what
it is
April
Fool's
Day
but just
in case
I'm
going to
go delete
stuff
when we
pulled
that
I got
more
PMs
from people
saying
that they
wanted
their
accounts
deleted
and they
wanted
their
posts
deleted
because
they
freaked
out
because of
the
whole
thing
and then
the other
little
extra
touch
that I
threw
in there
is
everybody
also
knows
that one
of our
other big
sites
is
oldschoolfreak.com
which is run
by Natus
so when it
started to go
sour and people
started to think
that maybe it was
an April Fool's
prank and it
wasn't real
after all
I sent a
quote unquote
text message
to Natus
a fake text
message to Natus
that he put up
on oldschoolfreak.com
I don't know if it's
archived over there
we might have to
dig it up for
reference purposes
where I sent a
text message
to Natus
from my
questioning
I was being
questioned
and I somehow
was able to get
a text message
off to Natus
to post on
oldschoolfreak.com
to let everybody
know that I
didn't cave
I didn't sell out
and drop docs
on everybody
I'm still holding
to the
you know
staying true
to the
users of the
site
not dropping
that information
which
truthfully
I would fight
pretty doggone
hard
if it ever
did come
to that
in real life
but let's
hope that it
never does
and
text message
kind of
would be
transparent
but to sell
it
once again
throw a little
bit of a
social engineering
into the
whole thing
not only did I
send Natus
a text message
I sent
of course it was
fake
it was emailed
to him
or we talked
about it over
the phone
I emailed it
to him
because
I know
what the limits
of a text message
are and how many
texts you can send
on one line
before it does
a line break
it's not a
continuous thing
it's not easy
to put everything
together like an
email
so I sent
it as though
it were in
four or five
different separate
text messages
because I didn't
have enough
space to type
it out
I also threw
in some
I won't say
leet speak
I threw in
some text
speak
because you
know when
you're typing
from those
thumb keyboards
you want to
take shortcuts
and you use
a lot of
initials and
what not
make all the
jokes about
my space
and teenage
girls texting
each other
you want
it's true
especially in
my circumstances
so I sent
a message
saying to the
effect of
don't have a
lot of time
to talk
of course
and abbreviated
and made
it look
chunked up
all chunky
because I was
abbreviating words
and shortening
the message
and keeping it
all short
and sweet
which further
sold the joke
so when that
went up on
oldskifreak.com
it kind of
reintroduced people
going wow
that looks
kind of real
like a real
text message
maybe it isn't
a joke
so most people
probably know
it is
but just
planting that
seed of doubt
helps and
makes the whole
process
makes it fun
having a little
fun with everybody
settle down
don't freak out
so sorry
that you're
without your
forms for a
day
or you can't
deal with
having the
Spongebob
Squarepants
theme on
there
you'll live
with it
for a day
a day and a
half
until I
came back
which kind of
brings us to
this year's
prank
which is
I gotta say
I pulled a
little
got a little
revenge for our
users if you
will
let me explain
the other thing
I do is
if I'm in
IRC or
something
you know
I try not
to lie
I try to
avoid lying
to people
I've never
come out
and lied
about any
of our
April Fool's
joke
if people
ask me
questions
I'll
use some
social engineering
skills to
sidestep the
question
redirect the
question
choose my
words carefully
and the
answer
for example
I was asked
directly in
IRC this
year
whether
the site
being hacked
this year
was my
April Fool's
day joke
which I can
honestly answer
and say
no
it is not
my
April Fool's
day joke
it is your
moderating team's
April Fool's
day joke
I had nothing
to do with it
I was completely
honest in answering
the question
and when people
ask me other
things I can
dodge the
question and
say no
I honestly
can say that
I did not
do that
one thing I
did admit to
and did up
front was
change the
form skin
to the
Spongebob
Squarepants
form skin
for a day
again
tradition
every year
we put up
some funny
skin of
some kind
we have a
little fun
doing that
and I
actually put
that up
probably
10 o'clock
10.30
the night
before
I went
to bed
and I
did it
in IRC
and I
purposely
was verbal
about it
I was
purposely
boisterous
saying
is it
April Fool's
I'm going
to go ahead
and pull
my prank
now
and go
to bed
and I
dropped
the skin
into place
so that
everybody
saw it
and that
plants
the seed
that
oh
that's
all he's
doing
this year
is changing
the skin
and then
I'm out
well that
is kind
of all
I was
doing
but of
course I
knew
that your
moderating
team
had much
bigger
and better
plans
for you
and their
plans
actually we
brought it
up in the
moderators
forum
a long
time ahead
even a couple
months ago
we talked
about it
and even
weeks ahead
when we
made a
decision
what we're
doing
truthfully
what I
was going
to do
was put
up the
Spongebob
and my
first idea
was maybe
I can put
up a
cease and
desist
letter
later that
evening
on April
1st
after Spongebob
had been up
all day
saying that
the Spongebob
people busted
me for
copyright
infringement
even though
it was up
less than
24 hours
so I
thought that
would be
pretty
transparent
but just
a little
fun thing
nothing
fancy
but the
mods
they came
up with
something a
little bit
better
and they
implemented
it about
a week
before April
Fool's Day
so the
actual prank
happened on
the 1st
but we had
to put some
time into
setting it
up
so Ponyboy
and Droops
and Seal
and Booter
and G.I.
Joe and
everybody on
the moderating
team
they all
had a little
hand on
this
they made
up a
user in
the forums
who went
by Switchblade
great name
Lee Tized
and everything
who came
in
had the
typical
skiddy
attitude
chest
pounding
I'm the
greatest
taxor in
the world
kind of
attitude
which
well you
know
sometimes
people do
that
so it
was an
easy sell
people
believed it
is real
lots of
replies to
his threads
that people
bought it
lots of
PMs from
people
complaining
about him
and the
mods
of course
behind the
scenes
pretending
that they
didn't know
any better
and one
of the
things that
we agreed
that we
would have
to do
to sell
it
is we
have to
treat it
as though
he really
were a
troll
so we
would let
the person
talk for a
little bit
knowing that
full and well
that was us
that was
posting
everybody
was taking
turns
posting
except me
taking turns
posting
and then
within a few
minutes
hours later
ban the
user like
we would
anybody else
who broke
the rules
but then
our good
persistent
hacker
switchblade
would go
back in
under a
different
email
create a
new
account
and come
back in
and continue
his
flamage
and talking
and trash
talking
and what not
and once
again we
would keep
handling it
and the
moderating team
had done that
quite well
I must say
and I even
stepped in
and said
okay guys
we're going
to handle
this the way
we do
here's the
rules of
the forum
again at no
time did I
lie or say
anything otherwise
but
played along
with it
tried to
sell the
prank as
best I
could
and then
switchblade
started making
his threats
against the
site about
how he
could own
us all
and take
BinRev
down
well this
is where
the story
gets fun
for me
and see
this is where
I'm looking
out
I'm looking
out for
the listeners
I'm looking
out for the
users of
our site
this is where
I stepped
in and said
okay
pulling a
prank on our
users is one
thing
but do the
mods really
think that
they're going
to get away
with pulling
this off
and be
immune from
an April
Fool's Day
prank themselves
no no no no
no no I
can't let that
happen
I'm trying to
look out for
everybody right
I'm trying to
look out for
y'all they're
not going to
be immune to
this
so I didn't
let anybody else
know about
this I just
came up with
the idea
myself that
said you know
what I'm going
to do the
mods are having
a lot of fun
at the expense
of the users
I did give
them one rule
I said they
can't put the
switchblade guy
in the newbie
HQ because I
do want to
keep that
clean and I
told them that
any of the
trash talking
stuff that he
does eventually
I want it moved
as quickly as
possible and
treated like we
would normally
do and move it
to the to the
bit box
well what I
did is on
April Fool's Day
that morning
the mods were
just having fun
still posting
whatnot posting
things right
coast made up a
fake hacked page
for us to put on
the site once I
got that from him
it was time to
implement my
April Fool's Day
prank and my
April Fool's Day
prank was to
you know they've
already created
switchblade they've
done all the hard
work all I got to
do is go in
abuse my admin
powers and ban
the entire
moderating team
under the name
switchblade of
course so I made
it appear as though
switchblade banned
the entire
moderating team
and Iron Geek as
well who was in
there talking a
little trash who
was also in on
it
so alright well
you know what's
good for the goose
is good for the
gander I had
country talk what
can I tell you
I banned all the
moderating team so
no moderators had
access to the
forums on April 1st
and actually well
into April 2nd
truth be told and
I changed the
admin password so
that even Seal the
forums administrator
could not get in
there sorry Seal had
to do it sorry I
had to have a little
bit of fun at
everybody's expense so
everybody that was
in the forums was
complaining and
wondering if
switchblade did he
really hack it you
had that believability
factor you had that
maybe it's true you
had all that stuff
going on and the
moderators didn't seem
to be doing anything
about it and then I
logged in and started
posting a switchblade
saying hey I've owned
all the moderators
accounts I started
changing their signature
files I started
reactivating the
switchblade accounts
saying that switchblade
had gotten root to the
site which also sold
the believability that he
had hacked the site it
made it possible it made
it believable which was
the only goal I don't
expect everybody to
believe it I expect
everybody to have fun
and laugh at it so I
think that was something
that we accomplished
pretty well so I went to
bed that night and agree
that yes I left the forum
skin up and the hacked
page up overnight I
didn't take it down till
the next day when I got
home from work so it did
go a little longer than
the first it went into the
second by a few hours but I
cleaned it up then gave the
moderators their powers back
to a nice little message
waiting for them I also
sent them all if anybody
cares just because I am an
ass I sent them all an
email from the administrator
as switchblade saying boom
headshot so they all enjoyed
that so moderators sorry you
got caught up in the crossfire
but you know what that's what
you get from messing with my
people only I can mess with my
people you see what I'm saying
here so anyway that was pretty
much what happened I even
went to sell the hacked page
a little bit better I got
on cleared the hacked page up
put my original page back for
a few hours so that people
saw that we were actually
trying to fix it because if
somebody hacked the site
everybody knows I'm going to
get on and investigate and
fix it and get it back up and
running if I left it up all
day it's obvious so I went on
there after a couple hours and
fixed it quote unquote fixed
it which meant put the original
page back and then a few more
hours after that I put up yet
another hacked page with new
comments on it as though
switchblade had re-hacked the
site so went back and forth a
few times to sell it as well so
I think a few people bought it
a little bit even if they don't
admit it and may not have
completely bought it everybody
had a little fun with it so I
thought that was pretty good
don't know what we're going to
do next year we got a year to
think about it got a year ahead
of time to come up with some
good ideas but be prepared
something's going to happen
keep your eyes open you have been
warned and you will forget by
next year so we'll see I guess I'm
going to go ahead and wrap up
with that I could go into some
other things I'll briefly again
talk about the fact that we move
servers once again so bear with us
if you do have any run into any
problems or any glitches any errors
anything like that for the most
part we are up and running on the
new boxes mail does seem to be
working it was a much smoother
transition this time Nick 84 and I
split the workload up and of
course the the support from
caro.net was really helpful
getting this box set up
initially configure it the way we
wanted so all that went fairly
well so we will probably go into
some more detail on that later but
right now we are very happy with
what we've got so I guess with that
I'll segue into the shouts I will
of course go ahead I'll give shouts
to Hesham and Russell and
everybody over caro.net for
helping us get moved over to the
new server the last host sucked
pretty bad so definitely give them
shouts out and to Natus to Thomas
Icom to Acidus all of them had
articles in the current 2600
magazine I noticed so I've got that
sitting here might be my reading for
tonight while you're listening to
the show because this is boy I got
to start mixing this to get this up
tonight that's how close I cut it
and that's how dedicated I am to get
BinRev Radio back on the in the
tubes I guess not on the air in the
tubes or something like that so yeah
as mentioned earlier binary
revolution radios hosting is
provided by caro.net so check them
out and that'll give me an easy site
of the week so I can be lazy and say
www.caro.net cool because they're
their own data center which I also
like a lot their own data center so I
don't have any more resellers which
are our last host that was one of the
problems is they're a reseller so they
don't have physical access to a lot of
things and frankly they don't care
they well anyway that's a long story
we'll go into that later email us if
you have feedback of any kind radio
at binrev.com as always our closing
music from tonight nice treat MC
Frontalot my good friend this is the
title track from his new album it's
called secrets from the future go order
the new album frontalot.com it is
awesome I've been listening to the
advanced copy for a while now the gold
it is available on the site to order
now so go buy this album it's really
good it's got some great tracks on it
this is the title track secrets from
the future and closing the show out we
lied I guess that makes me a liar last
week our closing phrase last time we
said next week obviously it wasn't next
week just what three weeks later a
month later but we will close out the
show this week to tell you that
hopefully we'll see you next week
same hack time same hack channel
get your most closely kept personal
plot put it in the word block for the
password block socket deep in the raw
with extraction precluded by the
ludicrous length and the strength of a
reputed little dictionary attack proof
string of characters this imperative to
what all that is beverages of privacy the
the NSA and homeliness you better pgp the
raw because so far they ain't impressed
you better take the pgp and print the
hex of it out scan that into a tiff
then if you secret out for your data
scramble up the order of the pixels
with a one-time pad that describes the
fun time had like a thick soul boot
wearing stomper who dance to produce
random clap trap all the intervals in
between which set in tandem with the
stomps themselves we gotta see the mouth
unguessable and no complaint about the
cypher that's redressable best of all your
secret nothing that could date could
extract it by twenty twenty five a
children speak and spell could crack it
you can't hide secrets from the future we
fast you can try but i bet that in the
future they laugh at the half fast schemes and
algorithms amassed to enforce cryptographs in the past
you can't hide secrets from the future we
fast you can try but i bet that in the future they
laugh at the half fast schemes and algorithms amassed to enforce cryptographs in the past
and future people do not give a damn about your shopping your visa number SSL to cherry
popping hot ramp for action websites that you visit
more password protected partitions no matter how illicit and this it would seem
is your saving grace like amazing haste to people to forget your name your face
your lit in this list of indefensible indiscretions in fact the only way that you can pray to make impression on the era ahead is if instead of being notable you make the data describing your face
describing you undecodable for script kiddy sexting in that relic called the internet seeking latches on treasure chest that they could reckon seconds would be in yet get a chance to queue up for disassembly to discover and crack the cover like a cumberland they'll glance you over i guess and then for a bad moment you'll persist you exist almost seem like you're there don't it but you're not you're here your name will fade as friends will that since the future they don't know our crypt to bury it and still you can't hide secrets from the future
in the past
now it's an enigma machine my code yelled out it hot long into a tin can with a thin string and that ain't it
And now the river's a mess to enforce cryptographs in the past.
Now it's an enigma machine.
A code yelled out at hot bong into a tin can with a thin string.
And that ain't all you do to broadcast clear text of all intentions.
Send an email to the government pledging your abstention from vote fraud this time, next time.
Can't promise you don't get a visit on the deep off in a piranet.
Be honest, you ain't hacking those.
It'd be too easy setting up the next president, pretending that you were through with reason.
When you're nothing but warming up to do list in your diary.
Better keep for a long time.
In the long time, better be tiring into the distribution of electrical brains.
That's a guessing every unsalted hash that ever came.
They got alien technology to make the rainbow tables.
Get in an afternoon, a dance, and have them secrets.
Don't resist the loving codes of the mathematical calculation.
Heart of your mystery sent free-fall into palpitation.
Computernal rise up in the dump for free agent.
Nobody knows the future.
Now go find out, be patient.
phonedal rise up in the dump for free agent.
You're a delegate.
I can't hide secrets from character with mind.
You can try with the myth that you can perturb the map.
Half-life schemes and are looking out this way.
Parades from the picture.
You have had secrets from the picture.
Parades from the picture.
A hunter that you can throw the map.
From the secrets from the future.
no, no, no, no, no, no, no