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...by James Mason

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Appendix IV: Universal Order

The following quotes are excerpts from a 1987 video interview with James Mason conducted by Brian King.

"Myself and a few others were trying to convert the Nazi Movement from a Right Wing thing to a truly revolutionary movement– not of the Left, not of the Right, but truly REVOLUTIONARY. So I went on my own and I started SIEGE to expound this idea."

"My involvement and intensity with the National Socialist Movement continued and grew.. and some of us– certainly my quarter– grew more and more radical, more and more extreme... Manson began to look... better and better."

"Manson, who had been referred to as sort of a 'Right Wing hippie' type– that's incorrect but it sets a certain premise– seemed to me as a possibility of housing at least part of an answer."

"It was just like 1966 all over again. Nobody suggested to me I should contact George Lincoln Rockwell. I mean your pals and your buddies, and certainly not your parents or your family, [won't] suggest you join the American Nazi Party... And it would be just the same within the Party of that day, the early and mid 70's– nobody is going to walk up to and suggest you contact Charles Manson... nobody. So that was just something that occurred to me."

"It was under that title [N.S.L.F.] that I first approached Manson. And he looked at that, we exchanged much correspondence and many phonecalls and he– he's very forthright, he's not worried about sparing anyone's feelings or ego– simply said: "That's preposterous and it has to go... if you're serious." Of course I was and I am, and he said, "Here's what you have to go with– get rid of that title N.S.L.F. and use 'UNIVERSAL ORDER', because that is, after all, what we must have. We have to have complete balance, universal order– not a little bit of order over here, or some over here, because that still renders everything out of balance... it's like grabbing a control knob and turning it to the extreme one way or the extreme to the other way– it's no good. It's merely a reaction." And I thought about it and I said well, that's what Commander Rockwell was advocating– not extremism of any degree Left or Right, but the right balance. As he [Rockwell] called it, 'The Golden Mean'."

"The connection with Manson doesn't interrupt, or interfere with, or contradict in any way my National Socialist beliefs– it's an extension of them."

"Where there are hundreds of thousands of willing and dedicated hands, and millions of dollars in budget funds, you can afford to be sneaky and subversive, because time is on your side. But where there are only a few hundred individuals involved and next-to-no funds, why, you can't afford the luxury– you have to be direct. Even if it means putting your life and liberty on the line... This is what Commander Rockwell did; to some degree it's what Hitler did in the beginning, though he had the people behind him soon enough. We today are very, very much in a minority– we don't even qualify as a 'respectable' minority, we're so few– so we have to be direct, just to be heard, just to be felt... Manson and his people in '69 did this– it was the supreme sacrifice. You could say that they had willingly sacrificed their lives ...except .. they were miraculously spared. We all have to be prepared for that, just to be heard– just to be known. But through that, why, Manson today is one of the most widely known personalities in the world.., he did accomplish that much, which if you don't accomplish then nothing, nothing else, can proceed."

"We're trying to back away from old-fashioned anti-semitism and the 'Jewish Conspiracy' and all that... it's a Jewish/Anglo-Saxon conspiracy because if so many of the 'Anglo' types weren't wholeheartedly involved– and they outnumber the Jews in this thing by far– why, it couldn't have taken place at all. So we really don't differentiate any more– you're either part of the System or you're not."

"As far as we're concerned a member of our own tribe, or Race, is far more of a culprit than any alien, as we view the Jews... So now we're not the old-fashioned Jew baiters– you're either with the System or you're not, regardless of who you are.

"When those killings went down, especially after La Bianca, the word is that Elizabeth Taylor and Frank Sinatra went into hiding– took a dive. And to what further extent it might have gone we can only guess. If they (the killings) had continued what kind of panic might have broken out– that's up to anyone's best guess also..."

 

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