Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2002 15:03 -0400
From: Bux Commco 
To: 'Brian Oblivion' 
Subject: Violation/THEFT of Copyright and trademark data.

The information and diagrams displayed on your site is a violation of
my Trademark(s) and copyrighted information.
http://www.guerrilla.net/reference/tnc_diag/tnc_radio_intface.html

If the violation is not removed within 10 days, You will be contacted
by my attorneys at BRADFORD & Assts for further litigation!

73 de Buck Rogers K4ABT


From: Brian Oblivion [mailto:oblivion@sinister.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 10:57 PM
To: Bux Commco
Subject: Re: Violation of Copyright and trademark data.


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Bux,

Can you please explain how I violated your copyright information if I
didn't doctor up the diagrams or remove your name or callsign from any
of them in any way?  How do the original manufacturers feel about some
of the diagrams you blatently ripped off from their technical manuals?

I usually post a link to the site I archive information from, in this
instance, it was just off some generic server that I guess had archvied
your information already.  At that point I figured the information was
in the public domain, as it is basically transcribed right out of the
manufacturers manuals.

Archiving the information seemed like a good idea because it could only
help people if multiple copies of the same information were available at
various locations on the net, eliminating a single point of failure.

If we can come to an arrangement other than just pulling this
information off of the site, let me know.  Otherwise I will pull the
page and let people that had come to use the site as a resource know why
they are no longer there.

Brian


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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 08:16:33 -0400
From: Bux Commco 
To: 'Brian Oblivion' 
Subject: BCC: BradFORD@AsstLAWn;     Violation/THEFT of Copyright and
    trademark data.

You know very much better, as each of the drawing contain my Trademark,
and have the embedded copyright statement in the binary.  Add to that,
all the OEMs who I have drawn I/O of their devices have provided me with
signed permission statements, which is more than you have done. 

You did NOT ask for and have not provided links or conspictious statemts
of credit to the author(s). Therefore you are in violation of at least
58 counts of copyright and trademarks thefts.

These drawings are copyright by BUX Commco, and CQ Magazine.

Your actions are blatent theft and dissregard of our work and research!

I have today contacted Hoyt Bradford and associates to pursue theft of
copyright and trademark violation(s) of more than 58 counts.

73 de Buck Rogers K4ABT


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From: Brian Oblivion [mailto:oblivion@sinister.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 11:35 AM
To: Bux Commco
Subject: Re: BCC: BradFORD@AsstLAWn; Violation/THEFT of Copyright and
trademark data.


>
> You did NOT ask for and have not provided links or conspictious 
> statemts of credit to the author(s). Therefore you are in violation of
> at least 58 counts of copyright and trademarks thefts.
>

You are right, I didn't ask for your permission, as I've already said, I
obtained these images, not from your site, but from another site that
also archived the informative images.  As I didn't doctor up the images,
I didn't feel that your copyright was violated.

However that is all water under the bridge and you didn't answer the
primary question in my last email:  Can we remedy this now or is it all
sour grapes?

>
> Your actions are blatent theft and dissregard of our work and 
> research!
>

Acutally they are the contrary, as I found the illustrations useful
enough to mirror them and display for others free of charge and gain no
monetary benefit from them, nor do they cause you any monetary damages.
You should be humbled.  It isn't like they are being sold in a book.
Did you have to pay any money to view the images on my site?  No, you
did not.  Do I have to pay any money to view them off of your site?
No, I do not.

As a matter of fact, people viewing the images on my site could follow a
url embedded in some of the images to your site, increasing _your_ site
traffic.

> I have today contacted Hoyt Bradford and associates to pursue theft of
> copyright and trademark violation(s) of more than 58 counts.
>

Brian

PS: 9 days and counting, or are you not a man of your word?


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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 12:41:21 -0400
From: Bux Commco 
To: 'Brian Oblivion' 
Subject: RE: BCC: BradFORD@AsstLAWn;     Violation/THEFT of Copyright and
    trademark data.

1)
I am a MAN of my word.
2)
You have yet to ask permission.
3)
You have yet to place a prominent link to the source!

We've been advised to to reserve further comment, and to allow this to
go to the courts, if you have not made suitable changes by July 11th,
2002 @ 3:00PM EDST.


73 de Buck Rogers K4ABT


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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:18:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Oblivion 
To: Bux Commco 
Subject: RE: BCC: BradFORD@AsstLAWn;     Violation/THEFT of Copyright and
    trademark data.


Buck,

My comments are threaded below:


> 1)
> I am a MAN of my word.

I'm glad to here that, as am I.

> 2)
> You have yet to ask permission.

Buck, from the onset you have been nothing but hostile and aggressive,
threatening litigation.  You made yourself out to be beyond the 'ask
for permission stage' which is why I have not come right out and done
so, and why I keep asking if we can come to agreement where I put a link
on the page in question, the information remains up, and we both walk
away happy.

If this is not a possibly just say so, and I'll take the page down
immediately.  Otherwise provide the link you want to be posted on the page
in question.

> 3)
> You have yet to place a prominent link to the source!
>

See above.

> We've been advised to to reserve further comment, and to allow this to
> go to the courts, if you have not made suitable changes by July 11th,
> 2002 @ 3:00PM EDST.
>

Try and answer this last email so we can rap this up immedately.

Brian


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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:23:46 -0400
From: Bux Commco 
To: 'Brian Oblivion' 
Subject: RE: BCC: BradFORD@AsstLAWn;     Violation/THEFT of Copyright and
    trademark data.

The ball is in your "COURT"!