MIND CONTROL & ABDUCTIONS by Martin Cannon.
[This is a transcript of taped talk given by Martin Cannon via telephone to the ufo contact center international group meeting in 1988]
All I can say is that I have been, for over a year now, pursuing a specific theory of UFO abductions which has royally ticked off everybody that I've come in contact with believer and skeptic alike.
This is a theory that, I think, designed to make me hate it. I'm primarily interested in the government's involvement in the UFO phenomena.
Specifically, it seems to me, and I might as well lay out all my cards on the table at once, it seems to me the abduction phenomenon might just be a ploy, that the aliens are a paper-mache mask, as I sometimes put it, for something else that's really going on.
All theories of UFO abductions that I've ever come across (excepting the entirely skeptical ones put out by people like Philip Klass), they all include some aspect of the concept of mind control. Now it seems to me that if people's minds are being controlled, and I think that this technology is in existence, then we have to ask the question: can we trust the participant's reports of what they are seeing, in terms of perhaps even the UFO's that they are seeing, but certainly the nature of the abduction experience itself?
Do we even have to assume that the little gray aliens exist simply because people tell us that they do, even if they believe that they exist?
BLACK DOG
Drawing from a very old example out of hypnotism, and Aileen being herself a hypnotherapist, can perhaps tell you more about this it was a very common practice, going back many, many decades, to see if somebody was under some hypnotism, they would introduce them they would take the subject, hypnotize them, and say that there was a small, black dog in the room, and he's coming up, and would you pet him.
And the subject will often actually see the dog just as thoroughly, just as concretely, as they would see any normal dog that you might get out of the animal shelter.
Now if the human brain can be tricked to that extent, then is it not possible that the ET's that people are seeing are of an exactly like substance to that dog?
I think it is. I have done a great deal of research into the subject of the government's involvement in mind control operations. They like people to believe that that was all something that they were doing back in the 50's and the 60's, and it was all to catch up with the Russians who had this huge lead in the field, but they stopped doing it around 1963 and they never really found anything it's all a lie!
I mean, basically, I've just come to the conclusion where I can say that right now. These programs went very, very far. We got there first. We were far ahead of the Russians. I even can give you a memo where Allen Dulles admitted that to the Warren Commission, of all places.
OCCULT GROUPS
It went back to World War II, possibly to the 30's, in fact I've just recently came across some information that occult groups have been doing experimentations with what they call electronic mind control, going all the way back to the 19th century. In fact there isn't a single technology of mind control that doesn't go back to that time.
And so, one of the problems, well, I should say that in researching this I have not only looked up, read every book available on this subject, some of which are EXTREMELY hard to find. I mean, I'm sorry to sound too paranoid but I'm really beginning to get the idea that somebody has been going around to the libraries and hussling them off the shelves, because I keep on finding, you know, there are certain books that I keep on looking for, and I find that they are not checked out, and they are not only the library shelves either! And I'm wondering what's happened to them.
But I think I've now amassed quite a library on the subject, and I've also gone to Washington, D.C. and I saw some 20,000 documents, these are de-classified CIA / Defense Department documents, as well as many interviews with scientists working on these programs back in the 50's and 60's, and these were all compiled by John Marks, for his book The Search for the Manchurian Candidate.
I would suggest that all of you people read that book, but you must understand that that book is incredibly conservative, and that the whole subject goes far, far beyond that. I don't know why John Marks wrote it the way he did. Certainly, there was much more information in his files than he allowed to come out in his book.
Another good book which I'm sorry to say is very, very difficult to get a hold of, and probably the best book on the subject, is called Operation Mind Control, and that's by Walter Bowart. But even then, after you've gone to that literature, you know, you have to search through a great deal of periodicals and scientific papers and so forth, and also conduct a great many interviews.
I've interviewed people who claim to have been under mind control, specifically in Vietnam. And what they describe is very, very similar to what the abductee's are describing in many respects. Not only that, I've spoken to abductees. And this is a subject on which I feel a certain amount of hesitancy in describing and talking about.
One abductee, I called her Veronica in an article I wrote in UFO Magazine (it's a long and extremely complicated and fascinating case), under hypnosis, and I did not hypnotize her, in fact she is the one who wanted the hypnosis and it was administered by a professional hypnotist. In the 4th hypnotic session she described one of her abductions, which as she dug deeper turned out not to have taken place at all in any kind of Unidentified Flying Object, but in fact took place in a house outside the Los Angeles area.
And of course, we kept zeroing in on the house and its location, and so on and so forth.
Now, I must state directly here that there is some possibility, of course, whenever there is a hypnotized subject it is often stated wants to please the hypnotist, therefore might confabulate details that would fit that hypnotists' particular thesis. I must say that Veronica came up with the CIA thesis long before I ever met her. She was saying that that was just one possibility among others.
It also seems to be a nagging possibility that other abductees that I have read about and talked to have come up with, although they didn't explore it. There is something about the idea of being in contact with alien beings that is extremely attractive to them, and they don't want to give it up very easily.
Anyway, to go back to the hypnotic session she had talked about I won't give you the details of this kind of terrifying session that she underwent in this man's house but, after the session, I found out later she was told under some sort of hypnosis, even though the hypnotist had tried to get her out of it, and she said that she was no longer in trance, but apparently she still was. But I said, "Well, okay, let's drive there."
And we did. And I got a location, we found the location, and she suddenly got very scared and we had to turn back. Well, I later did a little bit of detective work and I found out who lived there. I won't give the name, because there is obviously a certain possibility of lible involved, but I found out that the man who lived in that house was a scientist who worked on the CIA's mind control programs. These programs had projects like ARTICHOKE, BLUEBIRD, MK-ULTRA.
Not only that, while on the way there, Veronica described the interior of this house, including one specific unusual detail that almost nobody has in his living room, and I later found out from somebody who had been in that house, that she described it accurately. Unfortunately, Veronica now says that she can remember nothing of our conversation together and I didn't tape her admission of what was inside the house, so there is no way I can prove this, which is why I am very, very wary of mentioning names, and possibly giving way to a lible suit.
But I will say that for my purposes, and I can't prove it to anybody else, but it has been proved to me that in at least one instance this thesis is correct.
I must tell you right now that I am as loath as anybody else to give up on the alien hypothesis. I mean I grew up with it, I read alot of UFO books in my time. I've never been plugged into the UFO Network... I've never spoken to the actual researchers until just recently. And even then it's only quite tangential. Aileen is probably the one I know best. And so, it gets very, very difficult for me to give up entirely upon the idea of the aliens. And I know that people will get angry at me, because I am exploring another possibility. But it just seems that this is a path which has to be looked at.
DISPOSAL PROBLEM
I do know that from the internal CIA correspondence that I've looked at in Washington, that one of the problems they had, is that it was a "disposal problem" whenever they were experimenting on someone to see how firmly they could control that person's mind, even though they would try many techniques to get them to forget the session, as it were, it was almost impossible to make them forget entirely. Memories would come out, often-time in dreams, of what was going on.
One of the scientists who worked on it, I think that was Martin Warren, you may recall Martin Warren because he's mentioned prominently in Philip Klass' skeptical book on UFO abductions. Martin Warren what Philip Klass doesn't tell you is that Martin Warren was a CIA operative going back to the very early 60's...
But one of the things they mentioned in this context of people remembering, was they will remember any scenario that they are told. In other words, you can tell them: "Yes, something happened there... but you know...", you can fix the memory in other words, arrange a cover story. And so, yeah, the person might wake up in the middle of the night with this terrible, terrible feeling in that back of his head that he has been hypnotically told to forget something that happened to him. But as long as he misremembers that, then the actual truth of the matter will never come out.
Now I think that something very much like that happened to a man named Marty Kosky. Marty Kosky was a Finnish citizen. He was staying in Canada sometime in the mid to the late 1970's, and I have alot of material from him. He claims to have been a victim of mind control. Now, by the 1970's this whole technology was getting extremely baroque. In the 50's and the 60's, according to John Mark's informant, nobody knows his name, I don't even think John Mark's knows his name he was given the nickname "Deep Trance" according to Deep Trance the mind control was basically, the technology had to do with drugs and some with hypnosis. In the 70's it started to turn to things like implantations in the brain and microwaves. And the two of them can work together.
Now Marty Kosky claims, this Finnish citizen claims to have been a victim of the microwave experimentations happening in Canada. He had first, in 1977 or thereabouts, came out with a brochure that was, well you know, he learned English only a couple of years previously, and he wasn't a professional writer, and claimed to be microwaved in his brain, and so obviously you can tell that the pamphlet that he came up with was not very impressive, and people looking at it probably dismissed him as a nut.
LOONY TOON
Later, though, he came out with a still not particularly well-written, but much more convincing set of materials which I believe that Aileen might have copies of there, and we can certainly get some copies distributed to you people, if you're interested in it, in which he tells the story in greater length. He talks about being taken to a hospital, having things implanted in his brain, hearing of voices. Now I must say that even though this sounds like the story of an absolute Loony Toon, I know for a fact that this sort of thing does occur I mean, is technologically possible there was a scientist named Allen Fray in the late 60's, early 70's, who discovered that you can induce, with microwaves, voices in the brai