Cathy O'Brien at the Granada Forum, October 31, 1996
Introduction Our speakers today are interesting people who really have a very controversial story to tell. And it is something that you would call 'mind-boggling'. Mark Phillips is from Nashville, Tennessee, aka Gore Country. His vocation has been primarily in the advertising field. He was oriented to medical telemetry, electronics, commercial aviation and national tourism. His skills were in the area of subliminal marketing tools for a subcontractor to the Department of Defense. The area of hypnotism used to be a joke, but now we find that it is no longer the entertainment thing that it used to be. It's a very sophisticated business. It is being done on a much larger scale. His work with the Department of Defense made him a subliminal persuasion expert. He is recognised in the media nationally and has been interviewed by many people on the subject of mind control. And he is also best known for his help in the recovery of our second speaker, who is Cathy O'Brien. Cathy comes from Michigan. She is formerly also with the US Department of Defense. The "MKULTRA-Monarch-CIA-mind control slave", was the expression used. She was a victim of pedophilia in this horror story that was a terrible thing from beginning to end. But thank God it didn't work. As you listen to the two speakers, ask yourself this question: Is it meant that the leaders of our country take their oath of office and say, "So help me God"?
Let's give a warm welcome to our speakers this evening. Mark Phillips: Thank you John. And thank you all of Granada Forum. You folks really represent what I fantasize will happen all across this great land. As a matter of fact, around the world. You've heard a number of speakers in the past that have enlightened you on a variety of subjects. The one tonight this is very apropos that it be Halloween this is probably the worst story you've ever heard. I spent a great deal of time trying to not want to believe this. But unfortunately, the evidence is that support not only Cathy O'Brien's story, and the other evidences that Senator John DeCamp from the Nebraska cover-up Franklin cover-up as it's known support what you are going to be hearing tonight. In addition to that, there has been a tremendous amount of information that has surfaced over the past three years, that has come from people who have been on the front lines. Not only therapists, but we have got generals and colonels from all branches of the military, and members of intelligence that have provided us with literally tons of documentation not only supporting Cathy's story but thousands of others just like her. Cathy O'Brien is not unique. I wish she were. Because if she were, I would not be in front of you tonight. Because it would mean that this problem went no further. Unfortunately, that is not the case. What has happened to Cathy O'Brien is happening all around the world, and it's happening in day-care centres, it's happening in homes and not homes of Appalachian people who lack any education, or any written language skills, who have been practising incest for years this is happening as a result of a very coordinated effort that has come out of the intelligence communities, again, from around the world.
I can't, nor can Cathy, discuss what we may surmise are other victims, other than the ones that are the most obvious ones, like Timothy McVeigh. And again, it is not our experience, we have no proof, we only have Mr. McVeigh's admissions and some other information that would support it. We've spent about five and a half years on the lecture circuit with law enforcement and mental health. Now that was done to protect us. It was also done to ferret out as much information as we could regarding other survivors, as well as ferreting out information through law enforcement, or I should say cooperative law enforcement who are like you all, they're free-thinkers and they knew something was going on but they didn't understand it. I will attempt to give you some background on myself so that you'll have some understanding of how I was able to do what we've accomplished, Cathy and I. But our main concern, of course, remains the same focus, and that is to get this information out to the populace of this country and all the other countries that are affected, and we don't know of many that aren't. And also to affect Cathy O'Brien's institutionalised daughter, Kelly. Who, by the way, went into an institution when she was eight years-old, right after I rescued them, and she remains in that institution, or an institutionalised setting to this day. I don't know how many of you all can imagine being a child and being raised in a mental institution. But I can assure you, it is not a pretty sight. Even though Kelly has not been mistreated as she had been prior to going in to the institution.
You see, I'm sure each of us understands, those of us that read the Bible and understand its literal interpretation about "the sins of the father", understand what "multigenerational abuse" means. In this case, multigenerational abuse and that begins by the way at birth involves horrendous sexual, and psychological and physical abuse that is put on these children by their care-givers. Adolf Hitler knew that these people who are abused become very, very receptive to external control of their mind. They also develop some incredible abilities like forty-four times visual acuity. Now I know that it doesn't take a rocket scientist pardon the pun to figure out how we could use somebody with forty-four times the average person's visual acuity. It's called Special Forces. Special Forces individuals are screened very carefully.
Well, I was sworn to secrecy on the things that I witnessed, on the equipment that was developped, and I can assure you that in 1967 all the way up through 1973 when I was involved in this research as a Defense Department subcontractor, the equipment that I saw then was 25 to 30 years ahead of anything known on this planet in the private sector. I don't know if I was even seeing a portion of what was actually available. I don't know if what I was witnessing represented even a small percentage of what was actually occurring. But I was put into that job after months and months and months of psychological examinations because they knew I could keep a secret. I was given a Defense Department clearance. I knew about the Heinrich Himmler studies for Adolf Hitler, and I knew that Adolf Hitler wanted to develop some very serious people to put in places to control various regions in what he called, and what George Bush called, and Nero called, the New World Order. You see, Adolf Hitler was not the first, nor was George Bush, to fantasise about this hideous idea of totalitarian government, enslaving the entire globe through mind manipulation. Now, mind manipulation comes in a lot of forms. You folks in this room are not falling into one big huge trap, and that is, information control.
Now the corruption that we are talking about here goes beyond, I hope, most of your limits of experience. It certainly went beyond mine.
Now there are a lot of survivors out there. There are a lot of survivors in various levels of recovery. Cathy is, again, the only one that we know of that is vocal, that has written a book, that's been validated and we haven't been locked up. Now, I want everybody in this room to understand that neither Cathy or I are suicidal, and we just came back from Arkansas and I want to tell you Cathy and I were invited over there, spent 4 days with the investigators, because they had found one chapter of her book that they were actually able to validate. I said, "Well, give it to me in print." And they said, "Well, we can't do that." And I said "Well, okay, can I use this recording?" I was only joking... They patted me down before I went in. But no, these people are what I consider friends, of yours and mine. Now, if there any CIA operatives in this room, you don't have to hold up your hand, but I'll tell you where I stand, I want you to come see me alone, particularly if you're trying to disrupt what we're doing, because this information that Adolf Hitler was developing, we developed through Project Paperclip.
Most operatives do not know who they are working for. There are over 86,000 of them in this country. Now you divide that by 50 and see what you come up with. This place is crawling with Big Brother. The KGB never had that many functioning operatives in high levels as we do in this country. "1984", George Orwell's book, really was a grim prophecy that has come true. Most people are saying, "We've got to stop this New World Order from taking over". Its already here. We're in it.
Mind control, whether it be trauma-based mind control to develop a totally robotic human being, is one type. Fortunately, it requires a great deal of horrible trauma that somebody's got to put on to these people. And it requires something more that just pushing a button or a console. There is equipment available now that we cannot protect ourselves from. And the amazing part about this equipment is that it is available to everyone in this room. I don't quite understand the philosophy about making pain-field generators and another device called an MDD1, which uses a dual-coil electromagnetic pulse system, which affects our cerebral cortex stops logical thought. You couldn't balance your checkbook if one of these things was turned on nor could you think to turn it off. Any more than Cathy O'Brien could have thought to have walked away from her victimisation. This is not the 'beaten wife syndrome'. This has nothing to do with an economic situation. This has something to do with robotic mind control.
I'm not into this. I was hired because I could keep secrets. This is against my programming. But I can assure you of this it would be against God and everything that I am if I didn't get up here and talk and present Cathy O'Brien so that she can present her story. Cathy and I are really humbled by the number of people that we see who would have done the same thing. And people come up and say, "Oh man, we really appreciate what you are doing". And I say, "Well thank you. I appreciate hearing that". I even appreciate it when I hear people say, "This is hard to believe. I'm going to look at this book and I'm going to look at these documents". I tell them, "Please, please do this". Look in the back of our book and you'll get a thumbnail sketch of some books that you can get that are written by doctors, intelligence officers and a number of other concerned professionals who present the elements of what Cathy experienced.
Psychiatry is the youngest of all the healing arts and it is the most primitive of them all. The information that therapists are provided with by their lobby has been carefully screened. Information on rehabilitating victims of mind control is not only scarce but it has required some incredible efforts by some brave individuals who wound up getting sued because they could not violate the civil rights of the individual that they were treating.
You see, a sociopath is a very outgoing individual. Leaders. Unfortunately, sociopaths have no conscience, no expression of soul. They do not relate to anyone else's pain except that it gives them pleasure.
They see an ad for fried chicken, they can smell it. Now, I dreamed as an ad-man to be able to produce ads like that. I worked real hard just to get somebody to go, "Nice ad". But nobody ever drooled on any pages that I ever put out. And I used subliminal. I used a form of neurolinguistics. Those of you who don't know about neuro-linguistic programming should learn. Tony Robbins is an advocate of neuro-linguistic programming and he teaches it. Matter of fact, he taught George Bush and he taught Bill Clinton. And there's nothing wrong with Tony Robbins, he's not a bad guy. He's a smart businessman. And any smart businessman these days knows the value of neurolinguistics or the language of the unconscious. To me it's the subconscious. The language of the subconscious provided many of the codes, keys and triggers to unlock all the rest of the doors in Cathy's mind that pertained specifically to her abuse. It gave me information like bank account numbers first. And by the way I am nothing more than a hacker. And instead of going around and looting the bank accounts and having to hide for the rest of my natural life in luxury, I took them to the FBI. Not because I knew they were clean or dirty, it's because I didn't want them to kill me over it. I provided everything that's in this book over a period of three and a half years to every state federal and local law enforcement agency that was directly involved with this case. And the names of over a thousand agencies and people are in this book. I wanted to get this before Congress, like happened in the 95th US Congress in 1977, when the wife of a Canadian cabinet member had gone in to a mental hospital in Montreal, where Dr. Ewen Cameron was practising, and she came out as a vegetable. The cabinet member was incensed on trying to find out what had happened to his wife. They put her through horrific electroshock tortures and every other conceivable torture drugs, hypnosis. Unfortunately, many, many others were involved in Dr. Ewen Cameron's experiments. Of those recovered ones, I'm in touch with two and these people are highly functional and one of them will be doing the same thing we are in the very near future.
By the way, in one of the diaries it's got Bill Clinton's home phone number, it's got Dick Thornburgh on a coke deal for $20,000, and the list goes on.
This book is information. It is truth. And it is truth that will set us free. I am absolutely intent on the idea that the information contained in this book will indeed reach the eyes of those who can see. And the information on this video will reach the ears and eyes of those who can hear and see truth, so that they will get out and wonder why Sirhan Sirhan had the same psychiatrist Jolyon West as Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh. Now, this guy's real popular. He's right down here at UCLA. He was also the first person to call me on my unlisted, unpublished, fake name telephone, out in the boonies, outside Anchorage, Alaska, after I had rescued Cathy and her daughter. And a woman by the name of Margaret Singer, who may be a friend of one or two of you out there, but I don't miss a chance to bring out the fact that she was the one that sent another character in on us up there.
I apologise to everybody who buys our book and reads it. Because I tried to make my portion of it informative enough to where it wouldn't hurt you. And I told Cathy that she had to include enough detail in the book such as anatomical details of her alleged abusers so that we could get them into court and make them drop their pants. That kind of leads me into the presenter for the second oldest profession now who was first? It's a long debate in the intelligence community whether prostitutes or spies came first. At this point I would like to introduce Cathy O'Brien. The person who rescued my spirituality. I wasn't a bad guy but I needed that extra push, and I'm mighty proud to have been with her for over eight years now. I want to thank each and every one of you for coming out here tonight, to arm yourselves with knowledge about a tool that's being covertly used to usher in what Adolf Hitler and George Bush term New World Order... That is, mind control. I've enjoyed talking with quite a few of you earlier this evening, pertaining to how mind control has affected some of you or some of your loved ones. Mind control is very prevalent in this country and around the world. These criminals that are in control of our country operate on the philosophy that secret knowledge equals power. Many government secrets and personal reputations were staked on the belief that I could not be deprogrammed to remember those things that I was supposed to forget. They were wrong. For, as intelligent as these perpetrators are, they are limited in their thinking by their own immorality. They don't have wisdom. They don't think deep. And they never consider the strength of the human spirit.
I know that I am extremely fortunate to have survived my CIA, MKULTRA, White House, Pentagon-level trauma-based mind control victimisation. Now that I'm in control of my own mind, and ultimately my free will, I'm telling. I'm telling everything that I witnessed and saw and heard and photographically recorded behind the scenes of this New World Order effort. By telling their secrets, their power is eroding. I also speak out to give voice to the many, many mind control victims and survivors out there who can't think to speak out and tell what they know and what they've endured. I speak out for the sake of my daughter, Kelly, who is now 16 years old and is a political prisoner in the custody of the state of Tennessee, where she is being denied any rehabilitation, due to the political affluence of her abusers. She is counting on Mark and I to get this word out on her behalf. For Kelly's sake and for your sake, Mark and I have gone to great lengths with the facts and the truths that are listed in our book, Trance Formation of America. Trance Formation of America is self-published uncensored so that you can have the facts that you have a right to know and a need to know. These truths have been covered up and kept from us for a long time under a blanket of so-called national security. This is the same blanket of national security that has prevented us from obtaining justice despite the extensive evidences and documentation we have. We have over 27,000 documents and evidences: government insider testimony, medical records, more than enough evidence for any legal procedure in this country, including congressional. But this blanket of national security has stopped us from obtaining justice. It's time for truth to prevail. It's time that these truths were brought to light for the sake of humanity as we know it.
I realise that my experience was extreme that the extensive, total robotic, absolute mind control I endured is more limited than the kind of mind control that is proliferating in society. Mind control has kind of a sliding scale, where you've got the total robotic mind control on one side and you've got mind control that is proliferating such as in occultism in this country, or Global Education 2000, where children are losing their freedom of thought and their ability to critically analyse. There are so many different aspects of society that are affected by mind control in varying degrees. It's imperative that this information gets out and as I explain my victimisation, it certainly can be applied to all different facets of mind control and mind manipulation. And as Mark and I have heard so many, many times from people who have read the book and who have heard us speak out, that this is a thread that is tying things together. All of a sudden this whole New World Order is making sense. The erosion of constitutional values, the erosion of morality in this country, all of a sudden it begins to make sense when we learn about mind control.
I tell you this so you can understand that my sexuality was confused at infancy. It was put into an area of my brain that's much like survival, like eating and drinking would be. I tell you these facts so that you can be better armed and understand what's happening in society, and name names. Mark and I name names in our book. Not so that I can say that I was in the White House with so and so, I mean I miss the whole glamour part. But this is so you know who the problem is and where these problems lie.
So if I'd seen my father at the dinner table, I didn't remember sexual abuse, but as soon as he unzipped his pants, the part of me, the part in my brain that knew how to deal with that abuse, the neuron pathways actually physically opened up so that that part of my mind could deal with my father again and again and again as needed. I certainly had a lot of experiences within that compartment that dealt with my father's abuse, but I did not have a full range of perceptions, I had a very limited perception, a very limited view. Therefore, I'm so glad it's not termed 'personality' anymore.
I developed another compartment to deal with the child pornography that my father was subjecting me to. He was earning his living as a worm-digger on a sixth grade education and supplemented the family income with child pornography that was being distributed through the local Michigan Mafia pornography ring.
Dissociative identity disorder persons also develop a 44 time visual acuity. Very often that's why you see them wide-eyed, with the whites around their eyes, because they are actually taking in more of their surroundings than the average person, 44 times more detail than the average person sees. That certainly makes them perfect marksmen for mercenary operations or for intelligence.
I never perceived his political affluence, I only perceived him as another abuser like my father, because Gerald Ford also sexually abused me as a child and sexually abused me right on through my mind control victimisation until Mark rescued my daughter Kelly and I in 1988. Gerald Ford is not a pedophile per se, he is what I refer to as trysexual he'll try anything, any age, anybody, anytime, anywhere, just as long as he had control, because he had a perversion of power in addition to his interest in mind control.
Once my father agreed to sell me into the project I was taken routinely to Mackinac Island, Michigan, which is a political retreat where the Michigan governors mansion is located. It was a Bohemian Grove of sorts, where the politicians met and discussed New World Order controls and mind control. Mind control of the masses... Mind control in the school systems... How to use occultism as a trauma base...
It was at Mackinac Island, Michigan, when I was thirteen years old that I was dedicated to the Senator who had become my owner in this mind control project. That is US Senator, Robert C. Byrd. Senator Byrd is a Democrat from West Virginia, and again you'll notice as I reveal any names that this doesn't have anything to do with party lines Democrats and Republicans both are involved, because it is not about party lines, it is about who's for a New World Order and who's not. Nevertheless, Senator Byrd has been in office, he's still in office today, he's been head of our Senate Appropriations Committee, which means he held the purse strings of our country. He decided where money would be spent. And I know, from having witnessed and experienced and saw so much behind the scenes, that Senator Byrd was appropriating money in directions that would allow for New World Order controls. Not only that, but my father, for having sold me into this project, was granted a lucrative military contract for making camshafts for military automobiles and all. My father became extremely wealthy on a sixth grade education.
You know that part of my brain that I said would open up to deal with my father's abuse again and again? They changed that, so that they decided when, where and how that particular compartment in my brain would be opened and accessed. They replaced the triggering mechanism with hypnotic codes, keys and triggers, hand signals, there's also phone tones that can open those neuron pathways and give access to the compartmentalised memories as well.
Global Education 2000 was designed to increase our children's learning capacity while decreasing their ability to critically analyse. That way they would just readily accept whatever they were told without any question and just take all the information in.
It was while I was at Catholic Central that Gerald Ford went into the office of President. I had been conditioned by that time to believe that I had no place to run and no place to hide. This is a phrase that is used to lock in mind control victims of varying levels, that there is no place to run, no place to hide, we're watching you. I certainly felt like I had no place to run and no place to hide. Who would I turn to? I couldn't turn to my parents. I couldn't turn to my church. I couldn't turn to my school. I couldn't turn to the local politicians. And now I couldn't even turn to the President of the United States! I truly felt locked in. Which was exactly what they wanted for total control of my mind.
It is my experience that the CIA's so-called "war on drugs" is no more than the CIA eliminating their competition as they take over the drug industry worldwide. They took their 'war on drugs' to our street corners and turned our streets into a blood bath. The country music industry provided the cover for distributing the cocaine, so Senator Byrd wanted me to be within the country music industry. Besides that, he fancied himself an entertainer of sorts and he fiddled on the Grand Ole Opry from time to time. When I was first sent to Nashville, he was playing on the Opry that night and he had a musician behind him, a guy named Wayne Cox. Wayne Cox later told me that playing music behind Senator Byrd wasn't the only way that he backed him, but that he backed him politically as well. After the Opry that night I endured an occult ritual again... Occultism is oftentimes used as a trauma base for mind control. Who can comprehend that kind of a trauma? Blood rituals, absolutely horrible, and it is a perfect trauma base for mind control, for the compartmentalisation of memory.
After this blood ritual, I was programmed that Wayne Cox would be my first handler in MKULTRA mind control. As my handler, Wayne Cox would follow Senator Byrd's directions and instructions. Above all, he would be subjecting me to more trauma sufficient to satisfy the numerous compartments that Senator Byrd wanted developed in my brain for mind control programming, so that I could carry out various operations during the Reagan-Bush administration. I endured numerous occult rituals after that. Wayne Cox at that time was working directly under the direction of Louisiana Senator J. Bennett Johnston and he took me to his home town in Chatham, Louisiana. J. Bennett Johnston, at that time, was heavily involved in mind control operations because he was running a band of mercenaries out of Louisiana. At that time this band of mercenaries were going in and out of South America. There were a lot of arms deals going on. And most importantly, when the aeroplanes would fly these guys down to South America, they would come back full of cocaine, which was being distributed on our streets. Wayne Cox was triggering these mercenaries into operation by showing them a severed hand from another one of his victims, which re-traumatised them into the occult ritual that they had already endured and accessed a specific compartment of their brain. And he told them that J. Bennett Johnston wanted them to "give him a hand". He would then give them instructions and the guys would follow them through.
I delivered this cocaine to a remote airport on Ouachita Forest, which I have since identified as Mena Airport. I also delivered a little packet of information and a small quantity of cocaine, a personal stash from J. Bennett Johnston to Bill Clinton. I delivered it to Bill Clinton and he cut out two lines of the coke, and he did inhale! That certainly wasn't the only time I saw Bill Clinton using cocaine.
Around this same time, J. Bennett Johnston subjected me to some other mind manipulation that involved, instead of an occult theme, an alien theme. Now these guys who were manipulating my mind and programming me for mind control purposes, and these criminals in control of our country as well, claimed to be gods, demons and aliens in order that I feel totally helpless, in order that I felt they were beyond my realm to affect. It certainly worked at that time. J. Bennett Johnston told me that he was an alien. He told me that he'd been part of the Philadelphia Experiment, and when the ship disappeared it came back a spaceship. This is in keeping with an air/water mirror theme that NASA uses quite frequently. A reversal. Because, again, the subconscious mind doesn't have any reasoning capacity.
I'm not saying that there's no such thing as aliens... That would be foolish of me. But what I am saying is that it was my experience that these were people claiming to be aliens. If there is a reality out there pertaining to any alien influence, we need to sort out the government misinformation and disinformation and mind manipulation techniques that they are using. I know for a fact that the plan is to make all of us feel totally helpless, that what's happening is beyond our realm to affect because we've been taken over by aliens, that our Independence Day is dawning. So, beware of that.
Superstition begins where knowledge leaves off, and they have been keeping knowledge from us for a long time. People have all kinds of belief systems and I'm sure each one of you has various and different belief systems as well. Regardless of what your belief system is, it is imperative that you know that these criminals are people. They are within our realm to affect. They need to be held accountable for their actions and their crimes against humanity.
As soon as Kelly was born, Senator Byrd figured I'd been traumatised enough by that time and ordered that we be transferred back to Nashville Tennessee, to carry out operations during the Reagan administration. But being within the country music industry, we had a second handler, his name was Alex Houston. Alex Houston is a ventriloquist, stage hypnotist in the country music industry. Above all, he carries out criminal covert CIA operations that fund the black budget, and this certainly included bringing in large quantities of cocaine and distributing them throughout the United States and Canada. He was working at that time and provided a cover for me to be taken throughout the United States, Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean for these criminal covert operations. As my handler, he took me to various military and NASA installations for mind control programming, for specific operations that I was forced to participate in. These operations I won't have time to get into tonight, but are detailed in our book Trance Formation of America. And they involve such leaders as the president of Mexico at that time, De la Madrid, and ex-president Salinas.
It's also interesting to note that this Lampe, Missouri operation is where the country music industry was more conveniently relocated, you know, right there in Branson so that it would be closer to Clinton's cocaine operations. Lampe, Missouri was also the place where I heard George Bush and Bill Clinton talking. From the point of view I had, they certainly were friends, they didn't recognise any party lines between them. That's a smoke and mirrors illusion for the public. It's not something they adhere to because they had exactly the same agenda, and that was for bringing in this New World Order.
It was also discussed, in the groundwork for NAFTA, that by the time George Bush went into the office of President, Salinas was going to become the president of Mexico, and they together were going to be bringing in NAFTA, which was the beginning of New World Order controls. I was forced to participate in the criminal groundwork for NAFTA, the opening of the Juarez Mexican border to free trade free trade of drugs, the free trade our nation's children. It's absolutely appalling, the criminal roots of NAFTA. Again, this is detailed in the book.
I understand that good people don't think that way. They don't have criminal minds. They don't think to look for that kind of criminal activity. Just like these guys are limited in their thinking by immorality, good people are blinded from that kind of criminal activity, until their eyes are opened to truth.
It was my experience that Ronald Reagan answered to George Bush. Not robotically, not under mind control, but willingly because George Bush was respected for what he knew about bringing in the New World Order.
In 1983, I heard Ronald Reagan and Brian Mulroney discussing the New World Order. Senator Byrd had acted in the capacity of a pimp and prostituted me to Reagan and I was present at this White House cocktail party. Now Ronald Reagan certainly provided a wonderful smoke and mirrors illusion for all of us. For those of you who don't want to believe that he's involved in all of this... He told you he is an actor. And he did a real good job of it for a long time. That was his role. That's what he was supposed to do. Nevertheless, I heard Ronald Reagan telling Brian Mulroney that he believed the only way to world peace was through mind control of the masses.
The ramifications of mind control are far-reaching. I also know that under mind control there's no free thought. Without free thought there's no free will. Without God-given free will there's no soul expression. What kind of a world peace can we have without any free will or soul expression without any spirituality?
I'm appalled at what I was forced to participate in, but I am relieved that this information is getting out, that people are passing the book hand to hand so that hand in hand we can take back our country. This information is information that you have a right to know, and a need to know, and their controlled media are not going to suppress truth... Truth prevails.
So, it was very telling to us that these animals loved Mark. Additionally, when he came in and rescued us, we were under the gun of the CIA... Everything was very curious to say the least. I was 30 years old. I was supposed to be killed, as most mind controlled slaves are at the age of 30. Besides, I was considered too old for sex by that time. So, I was supposed to be wiped out. Mark came in and rescued me from certain death and rescued my daughter from a fate much worse than death, and took the time to rescue our animals. He packed up all those cows and horses and guineas and chickens and loaded them up on these different trailers and brought them to safety as well.
Mark took us to the safety and serenity of Alaska. Since we were safe for the first time in our lives, experiencing love for the first time in our lives, memories of our past began flashing on our mind-screen. As these memories flashed and I started to remember what had happened to me and to my daughter, particularly during the Reagan-Bush administration, I became enraged. I was enraged at what my daughter had been through, the tortures I had endured and what the plan was for humanity as a whole. I'd have been blinded by that rage, immobilised by that rage, if it weren't for Mark's wisdom in telling me that the best revenge is total recovery. Because through total recovery, by photographically recording all of those events, I could expose these people for exactly what they are, for what their plans are and for what I witnessed behind the New World Order, to be able to get help for my daughter who was in desperate need of help at that particular time.
In my daughter's case it was respiratory failure, so that in the event that she ever had cause to remember which they never expected could happen but in espionage that can happen... So they won't have to take the old cyanide pill anymore, like spies used to, instead they would simply go into respiratory failure or circulatory failure and no information would be released at all. Since my daughter was being raised genetically and through mind control to be in espionage, she had that program in place and it went into effect. Because of the medical attention that she needed she became quickly thrust into the illegal and immoral custody of the state of Tennessee, where she remains today. The violations of laws and rights that proliferated in her so-called 'legal' case were extensive. We had one clean district attorney that went in and told the judge that he was violating constitutional rights and human rights in my daughter's case. He cited law after law after law and the judge interrupted him and said, "But laws do not apply in this case for reasons of national security".
For Kelly's sake and the sake of so many other mind control survivors out there, we need to lift this veil of "national security". We need to repeal the 1947 National Security Act. This isn't national security, it's threatening the security of our nation when it covers up such crimes against humanity as mind control, when it covers up the CIA's so-called 'war on drugs', when it covers up the selling out of our country to New World Order controls. That's a national security that has nothing to do with the security of our nation. This "national security" has kept information pertaining to mind control from all of you for far too long. We've got to get this information out. We've got to arm others with knowledge on mind control, because knowledge is our only defense against mind control. We need to get this information out in detail so that we can all be more effective in our particular areas of taking back our country, and ultimately, taking back our world... For Kelly's sake, for the sake of all the other mind control survivors and victims that I know are out there, there's many of them, and for the sake of humanity as we know it.
Thank you. Questions From The Floor Question: What name did you go under when assigned to Robert Byrd? Cathy: Cathy Houston. I had Alex Houston's name at that time. Mark: When I rescued Cathy and her daughter, Alex Houston her handler was on vacation at Boys Town. What a place to vacation! I suppose it would be if you were an alleged pedophile. We have a picture of his den wall and he's got the keys to Boys Town hanging on his wall. Now I don't know what this fellow was doing up there, but there are a number of people that said that he was molesting them and they came out in court and said that he was molesting them. In the Franklin cover-up he is mentioned as a "molester".
Mark: Jonestown was an MKULTRA project. Now that's right out of the government printing office, right out of the FOIA. You can get this information just like I did and you can look in the book and you will see government headings from the "Freedom of Information Act Government Printing Office", of various investigations done by Congress, the 93rd Congress, the 95th Congress, and so on and so forth. If you go to your library and access those under those headings, you will come up with this information. But let me give you a little information about Jonestown. In French Guiana, the money for Jonestown came through a Mexico City bank and it was traced directly to the Central Intelligence Agency. Jonestown was not a mind control project. Mind control had long since been perfected. Jonestown was a biological weapons project. And the worst part about this whole thing is there are two other projects twice the size that had been going on in 1977 and they are still going on today. Now, that is very much reminiscent of the house of prostitution for little children that were being used in Washington DC that you read about even in your... I don't want to call them "newspapers" anymore... There was a house of prostitution that these congressmen were using that was using little children in there. Well nobody ever thought to ask, "What happened to all the little children that were being used?" I'll tell you: they were moved right down the street, two and a half blocks away, to three other houses of prostitution that still operate to this day!
Mark: Information control, folks, is mind control. Need I say more? What you hear and what you see is all you have to base your decisions upon... We're being brainwashed.
Mark: No, I see a direct correlation between Satanic activity as well as blood traumas and other horrific types of abuse that is used as a part of their religious belief. But I don't down-play the subject of Satanism, it's just that when you say, "aliens did it", "demons did it", I can't do anything about a demon, I can't do anything about an alien. I can do something about a human being that says they're a demon or says they're an alien. And you all can affect those kind of folks too. But I don't know of any way to go after a demon, nor an alien. I'm not saying there's not aliens and I'm not saying there's not demons, but I want to tell you all something: every single patient up until about 1982 that was presenting with dissociative identity disorder was diagnosed with demons and they went right off the edge. And if that didn't get them, the "how does that make you feel?" got them, or "your session is up" got them, when they were right in the middle of an abreaction that's re-experiencing the trauma. So the poor patient was either going to be subjected to an exorcism by a good intentioned in most cases religious person, or an exorcism of sorts from their therapist. Because they didn't have any other information, they didn't know what they were looking at. They didn't realise that the brain stem was scarred, very much like they have in multiple sclerosis, and that you can get people to retrain the brain right through the auditory (sic). But you can't say, "Let me get that demon out", or "Oh, gee, I hope the alien doesn't come and get you tonight", because you are reinforcing program. So, no, I'm not downplaying Satanism, I'm not downplaying any sort of religious belief. What I am downplaying is a belief that it's something other than human beings.
Cathy: Mind manipulation in the media is extensive and they are controlling us by controlling our information, the same way that they're controlling children through the information that they are being fed in the school system. And to answer another question: yes, it is in our school systems now. And the computers have actually been changed, where the history has been altered and people like Thomas Jefferson are even left out of history in order that our children be brought up with socialistic values. So, just as our children are being manipulated in the school system, all of us are being manipulated through the media. We need to be especially careful that when trauma occurs in this country, we are not losing any more of our freedom, because they know that the traumatic effects on your mind are making you more susceptible and more suggestible and receptive to whatever controls they want to implement.
Mark: I have heard there are. I don't personally know anybody under mind control who are working for the CIA or the FBI. I know a lot of them that are under information control. I do know that the CIA and FBI recruits Mormons with favouritism, who have just come off of their mission. Now, these gentlemen are very receptive to taking orders, they are highly suggestible and they are ones who I know are being manipulated. There is a disproportionate number of Mormons in both the FBI and the CIA. I did not find that to be an indictment of the Mormons. As a matter of fact, we'll be in Salt Lake City speaking on the 13th of November, addressing a number of concerned Mormons because of this very subject.
Cathy: Yes, absolutely. Michael Aquino is a primary mind control programmer of mine. Mark: By the way, he's a litigant too. He sues everybody that ever talks about him. Including Linda Blood. Except us. He got on national television and said: "Yeah, I know that Mark Phillips. He is gonna be the destruction of all organised religion in this country." Well, now there's an indictment! Cathy: Michael Aquino is the founder of the occult Temple of Set that is proliferating on our military bases. He was with the psychological warfare division. Some of his power is eroding thanks to the exposure that he is getting through people like Linda Blood. It was my experience with Michael Aquino that he does not believe in the power of Satan, he does not believe in spirituality at all... That's not a part of what he does. What he does believe in is the power of trauma on the human mind and the compartmentalisation of memory through high voltage stun guns.
Mark: Whoever asked me that question, I hope they bought our book...
Mark: Then it wouldn't be mind control. It would be foot control, or finger control or eye control. There is no conscious awareness under mind control. You cannot think to get out of it. There's no reason to get out of it because you don't even think that you're being abused. You don't think. That's the simplest analogy I can give you. You are a reactionary robot.
Cathy: With love. A lot of patience. Mark: The modality for doing that is in our book. It's a fifteen step one and no therapist can legally do it. I can, and I'm not going to do it any more.
Mark: Two reasons. How many people in here believe in God? Alright. Those that have your hand up know half of the reason. The other reason is, we followed a very careful path to the proverbial barn. We did not make some of the mistakes that some of our predecessors have. It's not that I'm any smarter, its just that I listen well and I know how to trust, therefore I know who to trust, even those that I have not seen. Cathy: Another reason: they've got so many fires to stomp out now, with people bringing truth out. We're just one of many. And besides, stopping us is not going to suppress the truth.
Cathy: Yes. There is a chapter in the book pertaining to Bohemian Grove and some of the meetings that went on there between the politicians and world leaders that were involved. That is a place that needs to be exposed for exactly what it is.
Mark: I can tell you from personal experience, I can't tell you all the places I've been, I wonder why I'm still alive today. But her? It remains a total mystery to me and it always will. Now her body bears the scars. She has some of the things that they can't take away, that they can't deny. Like Mr. Byrd... If he were undressed before Congress and the nation, there are things he can't deny, and Mr. Cheney as well. But there are undeniable scars that this lady carries that are not on her mind, they are on her brain stem, all over her body, thousands of stun gun scars, and a vaginal mutilation that defies the worst horror story you can imagine. Those are things that people don't do to themselves. I had a CIA boy who was palming himself off as an enforcement officer with the DEA who was on assignment to the US Customs, Florida... That should have been a tip-off. He said: "You know, FBI believes she had that done to herself." I said : "Of course she did. With a pocket knife, moron!" I said: "How in the world would anybody even find anybody evil enough to do something like that?" And I tracked it down. It's an ancient Egyptian practice taught to Michael Aquino. And I understand from her that he is alleged to be the one that told her handler, Alex Houston, how to use carving knives to do it. He bragged that he was a 'carver'... He carved people.
Cathy: Oh yes, I could for a long time. I wish we had more time. The details are in the book. Mark: I need to bring up the Ronald Reagan situation. I've got my wall in my office covered with invitations from Ronald Reagan, from George Bush, and some other presidents, one I don't even want to mention. But I was invited to dinners and inaugurations and all sorts of things through my relationships with people in the community and the State Department. When I heard this information, I wasn't shocked about Ronald Reagan because when I was with Ampex Corporation in the early seventies, Ronald Reagan was governor of California and he was in big big trouble because he had encouraged a MKULTRA mind control experiment to be instituted in the Vacaville Prison here in California. And it made the Congressional Record. And Ronald Reagan is the governor who is the only governor of any state in the United States that got caught instituting trauma-based, chemical-based, frontal lobotomy, and so on mind control in our prison systems. Now it is rampant. As a matter of fact, this is the one subject that you can get more information out of Congress on than any of the rest of them.
Mark: It is all under the guise of MKULTRA. I was part of the Duke studies in 1967 and '68, working with the paranormal. Most of the people I saw at that time were of Soviet origin. As a matter of fact, I didn't know we had a Cold War going on. I really didn't. There was a huge exchange of information. I was constantly sitting down to the table with KGB agents and they were identified as such and handed me cards. I couldn't even understand, the first time somebody handed me a card I said, "well this is the end of me". He said, "Do you have a card?"
Cathy: Wayne Cox was Kelly's father. He's her father because genetically they wanted her to have the capacity to be able to kill, because she was being brought up in espionage for those kind of purposes. But it's interesting to note, David Icke, a dear friend of ours stated it eloquently: "Just as knowledge is neither good nor bad, it depends who has control of it". By that same token, genetics, for as powerful an influence they are, they are not stronger than the human spirit. Kelly's soul is just so beautiful and her loving capacity is enormous and the love that she operates from is extensive. She wants this information out for humanity's sake. So in spite of the genetics and who Kelly's father is, she's absolutely a beautiful child.
Mark: I got the answer to that three ways. There's a catalogue company called Budapest out of Washington that's a catalogue of spy books and ours will soon be in it, hopefully. There are a number of books in there, I can't remember the title now, but the New York Times reads that catalogue and orders those books. They are done by Stockwell and every other name you can imagine, and Philip Agee. Philip Agee I don't have a lot of respect for at all except, George Bush stood up on national television and said that he hated him more than any man on earth. I just couldn't help but love the guy.
Cathy: That's an excellent question... The effects of marijuana on the brain are not conducive to mind control. Mark: It doesn't mean you can't be traumatised and put under mind control, it just means it screws up the programming... Cathy: Because it actually opens neuron pathways in the brain. It expands thought. I'm not going to stand here and speak pro-marijuana but I am anti-anti-marijuana because we see all these ads on TV, and even Dole and Clinton in their campaigns are saying "guns, violence and marijuana", as if it is so violent. Because it is not conducive to mind control. They want it off the streets more than they want their drugs, like cocaine, off the street. Marijuana is especially targeted. I don't promote the use of marijuana as a band-aid for mind control because, again, knowledge is our only defense against it.
Mark: Yeah right! I'll tell you one. Bob Clement. I grew up with him. Matter of fact, when his father was governor, I used to go up with him. I remember I was highly traumatised by something I saw at the governor's mansion, which I'm not going to tell on Bob, because it didn't have anything to do with him. But we've got a number of clean Congressmen and Congresswomen that are helping us from behind the scenes. That's part of that 50% equation that we're still here. The information that we released, we released to every member in Congress at the same time and I had four Congressmen, one in particular, hand carrying every one of these packets to respective Congresswomen and Congressmen. That took a lot of effort on their behalf and a lot of nerve, since at that time I did not have all of that information validated, but they had received information from members of the Justice Department and US Customs that Cathy O'Brien was a valid case. And they were able to validate more than half of what was in that packet. George Bush was handed a packet and he was nasty with me. He said that I threatened his life, which is the farthest thing from the truth because the Congressman that delivered it happened to be a lawyer most of them are unfortunately he had read the stuff they were trying every way on earth to indict me for everything you can imagine, but this particular Congressman said that he would wear a sandwich sign before the news media if that was going to be the case.
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