This is a list of ALL Surveillance List Forum Issues in the month of December 1996
Vol One 1996 Iss#1
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MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL! IN THIS ISSUE... Lot's of intro's, info and requests...
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01)List Begins (TEMPEST info request)
02)TEMPEST Info Reply - Where to find...
03)Intro
04)Idea for List Topic...
05)Intro
06)Intro
07)Info Request
08)Video Body Bug
09)Intro
10)Screenwriter
11)Intro
12)Intro
13)Intro
14)Intro
15)Intro
16)Intro
17)Competitive Intelligence Suggestions?
18)Intro
19)Intro
20)Intro
21)Industrial espionage help...
22)Satellite tracking info request...
23)Intro
24)Intro
25)Intro
26)Intro
27)Intro
28)Intro
29)Intro
30)Intro
31)Intro
32)Intro
33)Intro
34)Intro
35)Intro
36)Intro
37)Intro
38)Intro
39)Intro
40)Intro
41)Interesting Privacy Related Article...
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DON'T BE A LURKER.... GET INVOLVED... YOU ARE A MEMBER... MAKE THE MOST OF IT
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1.) From: alexb@echo-on.net (Alex)
Subject: List begins... (TEMPEST INFO REQUEST)
I am uncertain if participation in the list has begun but I decided I would
fire off a message saying hello to everyone on the list who is either a
professional or someone interested in the field. I fall into the latter
category.
After first coming into contact with codex information via the usenet feeds
and then their website, I have become more than intrigued by the available
material in this field.
One area that concerns me greatly was from a sample report I received from
Codex/Spy King regarding Tempest Monitoring capabilities that might or
might not exist.
Has this issue been addressed in the media as of yet? Are there not
concerns of the inherent abuses that might occur with such technology?
Where can we get the report from the professor who published about Tempest
back in 1985/6. I understand this report has been banned or removed by NSA
officials.
With the rapid increase of the surveillance society, I fear the freedoms
and liberties most North Americans have become accustomed to may soon
disappear in a sea of technology, information databases, and surveillance
mechanisms.
Is this the Golden Age of the 21st century??
Brought to you by:
Alexander S. Bosika
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2.)From: spyking@thecodex.com
Subject: Where to find TEMPEST Info
Joel McNamara has recently created a great page loaded with TEMPEST info
at: http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/tempest.html - One of the things missing
is Professor Moller's paper which is an update on van Eck's work. I have
this paper and have agreed to provide it to Joel. He'll be placing it on
the site soon. You'll also find some pic's of my TEMPEST demo for the
Discovery Channel at http://www.thecodex.com/tempeav.html
P.S. The "Surveillance List" signed up over 500 members the first day. Let's
ALL get involved... Don't be a LURKER...
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3.)From: wavz@intr.net
Subject: Surveillance List
randy s long Best address....
Webmiester/inventor for DetectiveWorld.com - soon to be launced cyber
assistant (info bots) for the field of private and special investigations.
my motto is - If you have a computer - you have a problem...
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4.)From: "Vincent Padua"
Subject:surveillance list
My name is Vince Padua.Currently I attend Fresno State University majoring in Computer Science.
My main thrill in computing and the like is computer/network security. I think on the list besides
surveillance and countersurveillance we might discuss ways that computers are "hacked" and the
measures we might take against industrial espionage. Industrial espionage is becoming quite popular a
nd it might be a good topic of discussion to cover ways that corporations carry out such measures and
what others might do to combat them. Outside of that I'm
always interested in anything regarding security, technology etc.
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5.)From: Tony Cordwell
Subject: SURVEILLANCE LIST
HI THERE
I AM A PRIVATE DETECTIVE IN TASMANIA AUSTRALIA AND AM INTERESTED IN
PRIVACY PARTICULARLY MY OWN. IT IS MY BUSINESS TO KNOW OTHER PEOPLES
BUSINESS SO ANY TOOL TO HELP ME DO THAT IS WHAT I NEED.
Tony Cordwell
(Postal) 94 Glen Dhu Street, South Launceston, Tas, 7249,
Australia.
(E-mail) ac_cordwell@postoffice.stpatricks.tas.edu.au
(Amateur Radio) vk7zac@44.136.221.46
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6.)From: Tim Cummings
Subject: Intro
Tim Cummings, President of Acropolis Investigations "For All Your Surveillance Needs"...
We specialize in Workmans Comp , Personal Injury Fraud,
Check out our home page @ http://home.earthlink.net/~ais/
Thanks
Acropolis Investigative Services
5713 Boutall Street Suite #1
Metairie, LA 70003-2029
http://home.earthlink.net/~ais/
504-888-3398
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7.)From: TEDREDLICH@aol.com
Subject: Re: The Surveillance List
I am in the security and surveillance business in the conventional manner. I
am interested in covert equipment and detection especially in the laser audio
detector that was mentioned in the newsletter. I have several state and local
law inforcement agencies that ask for help and seem to be more ignorant than
myself as to what is available. Need help in that regard. Sign me up!
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8.)From: Spysociety@aol.com
Subject: Video Body Bug
I've been a surveillance equipment dealer for a little over a year now. My
main line is the Video Body Bug, which is self explanatory.
Thank you,
Daniel
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9.)From: Scott Howarth
Subject: Surveillance List
Alarm & Security System Designer/Installer.Work on surveillance projects and e
quipment with City of Brandon (Manitoba, Canada) Police Service.
Scott Howarth
LiveWires Communications
howarths@docker.com
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10)From: "Sansfi"
Subject: surveillance list
I've been looking high and low for just a list like this because I am
a screenwriter. To add realism to my scripts I need to learn the real
thing from people who know the stuff.
Sansfi
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11)From: Ron Smalley
Subject: Intro
Company:Intersek Status.
Director: Intersek SystemsLtd.
Postal Address: Box 83 Silverdale.
Auckland, New Zealand.
Ph 00 64 9 4263622.
Business: Installation Security TV. Counter surveillance Work. Intruder
detection equipment. Alarm Monitoring. Contrived equipment for investigators.
Some consultant work.In business 20 years + in NZ. previously working in the UK.
Rgds Ron Smalley.
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12)From: alfaomeg@cadvision.com (Richard L. Banting)
Subject: Intro
We are Alfa-Omega Investigations International Inc of Calgary and
6 other cities. We also are engaged in electronic cameras and
covert installations where legal. I am a former RCMP officer
and have 18 years experience.
Rich
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13)From: PRV8EYE@aol.com
Subject: Intro
Gus Morrow
Top Secret Research and Investigations
P.O. Box 1475
Oceanside CA 92051-1475 (northern San Diego County)
private investigator
CA lic# PI 17173
Specialize in locating missing people
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14)From: "Neal Fischer"
Subject: Intro
Name: Neal Fischer
E-Mail: nfischer@fcpa.fujitsu.com
Background: Full time laser printer engineer.
Part time hacker, computer programmer, web wizard, techno gadget fiend.
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15)From: mulder@tolstoi.saccii.net.au
Subject: Intro
Into Electronics and modifying/creating etc nearly all types of gear.
Interested in Surveillance gear and techniques have used many times
for Anti-personnel / debugging / creating for. Also heavy into
computers and radio interception of all types.
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16)From: Mp1100@aol.com
Subject: Intro
Would like to be included on surveillance list. Am commander for Vice unit
and do a great deal of surveillance. We do covert and overt surveillance.
what better way to see what the competition is doing. mp1100@aol.com
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17)From: Mk90659@aol.com
Subject: CI Suggestions?
We are a marketing services company in Canada using competitive intelligence
to grow our business. Walking through a clients door at the right time is
critical in my business. We are just closing a two million dollar project
that we landed through CI over a year ago. Currently most of our resources
are dedicated to dumpster diving, its cheap, legal and very effective. We
are looking to expand our capabilities and are always looking for new ideas.
I welcome any suggestions.
Best Regards,
Glen Thomson
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18)From: Mike Fink
Subject: Intro
I am an avid radio monitoring hobbyist interested in everything
from Hf thru satellite.
DX Equiptment:Drake SW8 with an Eavesdropper dipole
30Mhz+ Equipment:Bc9000xlt,Pro2006,Mvt7100,Pro43 and Bc200xlt
Mike's S.Florida Scanning & DX page:http://www.shadow.net/~mikef
E:mail:mikef@shadow.net RCMA member FL-389
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19)From: "Matthew DiTarando"
Subject: Surveillance List
Please add me to the list. I am a Staff Sargeant in the USAF.
Stationed in Tokyo, Japan. 27 years old, male.Working on first degree
part-time. Computer hobbyist.
Matthew DiTarando
matty@ykt0.attnet.or.jp
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20)From: MARIO
Subject: Intro
My name is Mario Kfouri, I used to work in the security business.
My interest is specially focused on the means of surveillance & counter-
surveillance. I would like to stay updated on the hardware & the latest
news.Thank you MK
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21)From mmaiden@capecod.net
Subject: Industrial espionage help...
I AM THE PRESIDENT OF AN EXPORT FIRM ECHO EXPORT INC.
ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO I, MEANING MY COMPANY. WERE THE VICTIMS
OF CORPORATE PIRACY. WE CURRENTLY DO BUSINESS IN LATIN AMERICA,
AT THIS POINT ALMOST EXCLUSIVLY. WE DEAL PRIMARILLY IN DISSPOSABLE
MEDICAL ITEMS.(I SEE I AM BEGINNING TO GET LONG WINDED) IN SHORT,
AT A CRUCIAL JUNCTURE IN NEGOTIATING WITH A BIG PLAYER IMPORTER
ALL OF OUR INTERNATIONAL PHONE AND FAX NUMBERS WERE ESSENTIALLY
STOLEN AND FAXED TO A COMPETITOR. TWO DAYS AFTER RECEVING A LETTER
OF INTENT AND ONE DAY PRIOR TO SIGNING A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR ACCOUNT
WE RECEVED A FAX FROM THE C.E.O OF THE IMPORT CO. EXPLAINING THAT
HE HAD BEEN APPROACHED BY AN INDIVIDUAL WITH WHAT APPEARED TO BE
AN IDENTICAL PRODUCT WHICH HE WAS OFFERING AT ABOUT ONE THIRD OF
OUR PRICE. THEREFOR HE WAS TERMINATING NEGOTIATIONS WITH US.
BANG- WE LOOSE.
IF I HAD BEEN AWARE, AND HAD TAKEN SECURITY MEASURES, THIS MIGHT
WELL HAVE NEVER HAPPENED. LIVE AND LEARN,TRUE? PERHAPS I MIGHT LEARN
SOMETHING FROM YOU AND OTHERS WHO HAVE AN INTEREST IN HOW BEST TO
PROTECT THEMSELVES.
HOPE TO BE HEARING MORE SOON.
THRESHOLD
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22)From: "Lorenzo Castillo Sanchez"
Subject: Re: Info request
E-MAIL : informant@intelligencia.com
(I got this one from "www.iname.com" where you can choose many fun
alternative email addresses)
PERSONAL INFO : I'm a very concerned citizen when it comes to privacy.
I'm attending college now and I live in Asia.
QUESTIONS : Is it quite true that you can keep track of a person anywhere
in the world by utilizing satellite tracking devices ? If it is, how does
it work and what can I do to use it to my advantage and how can I protect
myself from it ?
COMMENTS : I LOVE the Codex Website on the net ! I found the writings on
TEMPEST very informative and I wish I had seen the Discovery Channel show
when they aired sepcial segments on TEMPEST. Keep up the good work and keep
concerned citizens informed !!
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23)From: Larry Braden
Subject: Intro
Name: Larry Braden, Senior Investigator
E-Mail at Braden@rmii.com or visit our home page at
http://www.AngelFire.com/co/WestCoPI
We have a small but total PI business. Have been in business for three
years (with over twenty years experience). We are proud to say we are
members of both:
1) The Professional Private Investigators Association of Colorado and the
2) National Association of Investigative Specialists
Respectfully,
Larry Braden
Montrose Investigations
Montrose, Colorado
also co-supervisor of
http://www.ppiac.org
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24)From: John Stangel
Subject: Intro
I own a company called International Bodyguards. We are involved in all
aspects of protection including but not limited to personal, business,
and government.
John Stangel, Owner
International Bodyguards
2313 Lockhill-Selma #200
San Antonio, Texas 78230-3003
E-mail global@netxpress.com
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25)From: ILQQK4DOE@aol.com
Subject: Re: The Surveillance List
I am a licensed PI in MA. I specialize in Bank account location and data
searches.I will be looking forward to hearing from you.
Jerry
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26)From: allamosa@roanoke.infi.net (happydog)
Subject: Intro
Hi, my name is Doug Graham and I'm a Private Investigator in the Roanoke
Valley of Virginia. I have completed the Personal Protection Specialist
training and am enrolled in the Advanced Firearms Training to be an armed
bodyguard also.
I particularly like surveillance if it has to do with observing from a
comfortable location such as hotel lobbys and restaurants. I don't
particularly like to observe from a car or other cramped places where I
can't stretch my legsoccasionally. It's all part of the business so there
is going to be some bitter with the sweet.
E-Mail allamosa@roanoke.infi.net
Phone (540)384-7360
Fax (540)384-7040
Pager (540)983-2829
Mail 3114 Carvins Cove Road, Salem, VA 24153-3356
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27)From: "Eric V. Olson at the University of Arizona"
Subject: Intro
Electronics and Electro-optics Engineer with an interest in surveillance
technology.
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28)From: Ed Wheeler
Subject: Intro
Ed Wheeler
ed@ncpi.com - Chief of Security
30 Years in security - Central Station and Patrol Services
15 Years in Law Enforcement - Sheriff Dept.
Security Consultant for a school district
Covert Bugging and De-Bugging - Sheriff Dept
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29)From: "Douglas C.Harvey"
Subject: Intro
I am retired from the Military. Retired as a Brigade Commander.
Commanded a Military Police Company for 3 years and 6 months. Served as
a Battalion Commander for 3 years. Currently work in different phases of
Law Enforcement including Surveilance and do some private Corporate
Surveilance. List sounds like it might be interesting. Best of luck
Regards
Doug Harvey
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30)From: Donintel@aol.com
Subject: Intro
Active in police intelligence and police investigative systems for the past
18 years at the Federal, State, and local level. Very interested in the
application of surveillance technology to intelligence systems, in
particular, creative-innovative applications of technology that can make life
harder for the bad guys. Very concerned/sensitive to the dangers (to our
freedoms) inherent to the technology. Reside in Reston, VA.
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31)From: Cryptoboy1@aol.com
Subject: Intro
Secure Communications Technician for the U.S. Air Force(Secure Data/Voice).
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32)From: "Craig Shevlin"
Subject: Intro
Good Day,
Please include me in your discussion group on surveillance, measures and
counter measures. My name is Craig Shevlin, 27 years in government
security oversight.I would be interested in being part of your proposed
discussion group.
Sincerely,
Craig S. Shevlin
2038 Midshipman Drive
Stafford, VA 22554-2426
Shevlin@staffnet.com
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33)From: BrK
Subject: Intro
Name: Brian Karas Background: Digital Electronics,
LAN/WAN Telecommunications, Improvised munitions.
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34)From: Brian Poirier
Subject: Intro
I am a private investigator in Houston,Tx, and thus am always willing
to learn and share facts that could aid inthe investigation field.
Brian
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Brian Poirier
Paladin International, Inc.
5106 Center St
Houston, Tx 77007
Phone: (713) 864-5000
Fax: (713) 864-3400
Steelsun@wt.net
Http://member.aol.com/paladinpi/home.htm
#Gumshoes ID:Steelsun
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35)From: Bret Watson
Subject: Intro
Computer Security Advisory Services
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36)From: Bob Mather
Subject: Intro
Mather / Associates Investigations
Specializing in small business theft issues.
Sub Rosa surveillance, Employee theft, Shoplifting, CCTV camera systems
Serving Sacramento to the Oregon Border
916-347-1821
Member CALI
License#17141
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37)From: ALV11@aol.com
Subject: Intro
I would love to join the list. Involved with eletronic surveillance
in a law enforcement capacity as a Technical Surveillance Officer.
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38)From: Bill Fischer
Subject: Intro
Bill Fischer @ Electronic Countermeasures Inc.
65 - 31 Avenue South West
Calgary, Alberta, T2S 2Y7 CANADA
(403) 233-0644, Fax: (403) 233-8849
MailTo:bill.fischer@T8000.com
URL: http://www.t8000.com/eci/eci.htm
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39)From: Jimmie Mesis
Organization: National Anti-Piracy Association
Subject: subscribe-surveillance list
Our firm conducts over 200 hours of surveillance per week.
We specialize in covert video assignments. With over 35,000
documented hours of surveillance experience, I lecture and teach
professionals on the secrets and tricks to surveillance and acquiring
great video, night or day.
Jimmie Mesis, LPD #4774
Eastern Associates, Inc.
30 Two Bridges Road, Suite #330
P.O. Box 10781
Fairfield, NJ 07004
201-808-1004 v
201-808-8530 f
jim@easternpi.com
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40)From: Hal Finney
Subject: Intro
I have been interested in on-line privacy issues for many years.
I have recently gone to work for PGP, Inc., which makes encryption
and other privacy protection software.
Hal Finney
hal@rain.org
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41)From: SpyKing@thecodex.com
Subject: Interesting Privacy Related Article...
Excerpted from the Wall Street Journal Tax Report
Their Rolls-Royce sparked suspicions at the IRS. Ever wonder what
arouses the IRS's curiosity and provokes a criminal investigation?
One answer, based on a recent federal appeals-court case, is flashiness.
The case involves a couple
who drove their sparkling Rolls-Royce, which they had purchased for
$158,000, to a restaurant in Exeter, N.H.
A passing IRS employee spotted the luxury car parked outside the restaurant,
according to the court's ruling: "His curiosity engaged, he wrote down the
license plate number with the intention of identifying the car's owner and
examining his or her tax returns." The court said the employee's curiosity
led to an audit of the couple's returns and eventually a conviction by a
jury. For unrelated technical reasons, the court vacated the sentence and
sent the case back for further proceedings.
Moral: "If you're going to flaunt it, remember: 'Big Brother is watching,"
says Michael S. Insel, a New York tax lawyer at Kelley Drye & Warren.
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Vol One 1996 Iss #2
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IN THIS ISSUE - Intros, Info & Questions... Don't Be a LURKER! Post Something!
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01) Copy Machine Coding?
02) Surveillance Equipment - Fiber Optic?
03) Parabolic Microphone Question
04) Intro - Australia
05) ESI School Question
06) Intro - Satellite Communications
07) TSCM Equipment Upgrade
08) Intro - Research/Threat Assessment
09) Intro - Cryptography
10) Intro - Micro Video Recorder
11) Trade Shows
12) Intro - PI/LEO
13) Intro - Germany
14) Intro - RDF Equipment
15) Intro - Intelligence Web Site
16) Intro - Being Tailed...
17) Intro - Vehicle Surveillance Systems
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DON'T BE A LURKER.... GET INVOLVED... YOU ARE A MEMBER... MAKE THE MOST OF IT
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01)From: SpyKing@thecodex.com
Subject: Copy Machine Coding?
In a recent case in New York City, the U.S. Secret Service arrested several
Columbia University students for counterfeiting. According to several news
articles the gang was producing counterfeit $20.bills on an expensive full
color copier that belonged to the University and was located in the printing
office.
According to one source the Secret Service traced the bills back to Columbia
University because of a hidden code that is transmitted/imprinted onto
all documents that have been copied. The buyer of that particular copier was
registered and on file with the manufacturer. It was simple to trace back...
Does anyone on the list have info on this subject? Is it ONLY the expensive
full color copiers? Could the same technology be used on laser printers?
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02)From: rkdixon@esper.com
Subject: Surveillance Equipment
Does anyone have any experience with using fiber-optics in installing a
covert surveillance set-up. What I am looking for is the ability to monitor
through a wall, around a corner, etc., with minimal opening, flexible setup
and connection to a video camera/monitor or even eyepiece. I know that a
company makes an item called a Borescope which has a rod which can be
inserted into a duct, etc. to examine the inside, but I don't know what type
of lens (focal length, etc.) it uses. It would be very helpful to be able
to inspect inside walls, attics, ducts, etc. without requiring access, as
well as the obvious surveillance benefits.
I know that similar systems are used in medical applications and even to
examine piping, etc., although these systems require major bucks and the
piping systems are way too large in diameter.
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03)From: "Luna H. Chiu"
Subject: Parabolic systems
Question: Can the Parabolic Ear/Mic systems pick up sounds through walls/
structures--or is it only for receiving open-air sounds? How good is the
quality of sound you get?
Luna
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04)From: "Dean"
Subject: Post - Intro
I joined the list as surveillance & technology have been a personal
interest for some time. I'm currently studying for a degree in
Justice Studies, my major being Security & Intelligence (most people
don't believe me when i tell them that part) I'm looking forward to seeing
how discussions on various subjects will unfold.
Dean
"I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent"
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05)From: Rick Pedersen
To: "'spyking@con2.com'"
Subject: ESI School?
Hi,Thanks for including me in the "list". I'm not in the security/surveilance
field, but have a great interest in learning all I can.
QUESTION: What does anyone know about ESI (Executive Security International)
school in Colorado. I would love to attend some type of school. They are no
longer eligible for VA vocational program. Did VA change eligibility requirements?
Is there a question of legitimacy of this school? I'm former military and believe
I can complete any training or school. Just want to be
sure my money is well spent,
Rick Pedersen
1731 Caroline St.
LaCrosse, WI 54603
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06)From: "Hadsall,Richard"
Subject: Intro
I am Vice President Operations for a satellite telecommunications company
serving the Commercial and Government arenas world wide.
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07)From: Robert Harnell
Subject: TSCM Equipmment Upgrade
Please add my name to your list. I have been active in electronics for
the past 18 years but for the past 6 years specifically in
investigations. I have been involved in electronic sweeps with a
professional in the field,and now wish to open my own office to offer
investigative and countermeasure services. I presently own a REI
frequency scanner but wish to upgrade or add other equipment, what would
you suggest? What about telephone line verification equipment? What are
some of best out there that will really do the job at a reasonable
price?
Thanks
Regards
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08)From: EWW2000@aol.com
Subject: Intro
Emerald Worldwide is a research firm that provides specialized consulting
services to a myriad of business clients. We also provide industrial espionage
threat assessment. Basically, we identify problems and then we solve them.
We look forward to participating in the dialog.
Bill
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09)>From alpha1@pobox.com
Subject: Intro
Background:Programmer specializing in building applications to make powerful
cryptography easier for the casual user. Designed and lead the development
of PGPn123, an easy-to-use PGP (Pretty Good Privacy) interface for Windows
platforms. Ported DOS PGP to Windows and made it publicly available.
I am interested in surveillance techniques as they apply to computer
systems. The weakest part of most cryptographic systems seems to be not the
algorithm itself, but instead, the potential for physical breech of the site
where the keys/passwords are maintained. One matter of special interest is
the so-called TEMPEST attack, as well as keyboard bugs, either of which
could render useless the cryptographic system on the subject computer.
Preventing and detecting either of these attacks is essential when
attempting to avoid such a disaster.
If I can be of assistance in any way, please do not hesitate to ask,
and if you have anything to offer on these points, it would be appreciated.
Lynn
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10)From: JKreines@aol.com
Subject: Intro
Sure, put me on the list. We manufacture a tiny pocket sized DV format video
recorder for covert and POV use. Analog composite and S-video inputs, for
use with any camera.
Jeff Kreines
DeMott/Kreines Films
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11)From alexb@echo-on.net
Subject: Surveillance Trade Shows
One of my favourite movies of the past was the one with Gene Hackman (yet
the title of the movie escapes me) where he plays a character involved in
the surveillance business. He happens to go to a trade show to look at the
latest technology. Ah, the movie with Hackman was "THE CONVERSATION".
Does anyone know if these type of trade shows are open to the public or the
interest hobbyist both in the USA and/or Canada? I'd be interested in
looking at the latest gadgetry available.
Pin hole cameras are common place now. I can see that the surveillance
business will become a growing field in the future because of all the
computerization and information being accumulated.
Should anyone have a list of trade shows related to the field, please post
dates and/or details (price to attend) and where they are being held. New
York State specific shows such as the Buffalo area would be interest.
I am impressed by the calibre of participants in the group already! We not
only have investigators but police officials and people involved in
intelligent matters of a higher order. This group is definitely one that
will thrive with content and good information. I certainly hope that the
balance sways over more to those who are merely interested in the field to
even things out with the professionals that are present.
Brought to you by:
Alex
Thoughts that transcend political boundaries...
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12)From: Located@aol.com
Subject: Intro
Greetings:
Please include me as a new member for the surveillance list. I am owner
of Discovery Investigative Services. I have owned and opearted DIS for 3
years. In addition, I am a California Police Officer and have been for 10
years. I have an Associate Degree in Criminal Justice. My california PI
license is 17480. I can be reached at 1-800-393-7794 and Pager Number
510-720-9800. Fax: 510-7299.
Michael Weisenberg
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13)From: Jack-za@t-online.de (Markus Matheis)
Subject: Intro
Hi,
My name is Mark and as you might know I live in Germany. I've worked for
Security on a American military installation here in Germany,I hope this
explains my interest in the subject.
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14From: "Stephen Douglas"
Subject: Intro
We manufacture and sell radio direction finding equipment, electronic
surplus and military communications equipment.
Stephen Douglas K6HZT
http://www.dfsystems.com
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15)From: everett@ionet.net (glen wicker)
Subject: Intro
Hey guys,
Sounds like a great list to get involved with, I get a lot of questions from
students on the newest surveillance in the CIA or how much eaves-dropping do
the FBI really get away with. My intelligence page along with its monthly
Communique Newsletter go all over the world, put me on your list.
Glen
http://www.ionet.net/~everett/index.shtml
Intelligence Web Link
everett@ionet.net 918.664.1350
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16)From: Lennie Scott
Subject: I'm being tailed...
I have been on two jobs where coworkers have followed me home, ran
credit checks, etc. I don't know these people. I am interested in
getting security for myself and my finances. Why would strangers want
to look you up?
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17)From cardoc@hhs.net
Subject: Intro
Edward E. Dunlevy
Vanguard Inspection Services
P.O. Box 695 Keeney Row- Dunlevy Lane
Republic, Penna. 15475-0695
Phone/Fax AC412-246-9804
E-mail- cardoc@hhs.net
URL- http://www.pennet.com/cardoc
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18)From qzar@magicnet.net
Subject: Intro - Vehicle Surveillance Systems
HI, My name is Zac,
My sceciallity is electronic surveillance equipment. I got into the business
from electronics a few years ago when a freind of mine, who owned an investigation
business asked me if i could build a bug. well it has grown from there.
I have a FL investigators licence and i am currenty attached to Brown and
associates investigation agency. My car has a variety of surveilanvce systems
installed in it and i am currently working on new ideas. I would appricate any
ideas for new systems.
Thanks about it
Zac
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IN THIS ISSUE...
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01) Intro - NannyCam
02) Intro - Polygraph
03) Intro - Spain
04) Intro -
05) Re: Copy Machine Coding...
06) Intro - Australia
07) Intro - Canada
08) Intro - Alabama
09) Telephone Surveillance Question
10) Surveillance Devices Casings - Question
11) Intro - Tech
12) Re: Copy Machine Coding
13) Laser Listening Device
14) Intro - Greece
15) Doppler RDF System
16) Ultra Thin Batteries
17 Re: Fiber Optics
18) New DEA Product?
19) Downloadable Digital Micro Recorder
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1)From: Greg White
Subject: Intro
Presently have a company called NannyCam that rents hidden camera/VCR
combos so that they can monitor their nannys/babysitters/housekeepers.
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2)From: "Dan Seiler"
Subject: Polygraph
Hello,
I am a retired Maryland State Trooper. I was a polygraph examiner for over
ten years when I retired from that agency in 1991. Upon retirement I
formed a detective and polygraph agency. I am a federal and state court
qualified expert in the field of polygraph. I am glad to be a member of
this list. If I can help anyone please drop me a line or get more
information on my web site.
Dan Seiler
Cops, Inc.
cops@fred.net
http://www.fred.net/cops/html/cops.html
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3)From: juanh@erols.com
Subject: Intro
Born in Madrid (Spain), involved in the security planning and operations
of major events since 1980 until today, including World Cup Soccer 1982,
World Cup Basketball 1986; Middle East Peace Talks in Madrid; European
Security Conference in Madrid; Barcelona Olympics 1992; World Cup Soccer
USA'94, Atlanta Olympics 1996; and many others.
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4)From: fts@cris.com (Chester J. Karma, esq.)
Subject: Intro
Chester J. Karma, esq. fts@cris.com
Network/Internet/Security Consultant http://www.cris.com/~fts
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
The Dan & Scott Show - LIVE Weeknights via RealAudio - www.radiofun.com
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5)From: "Peter J. Lasky"
Subject: Re: Copy Machine Coding
>In a recent case in New York City, the U.S. Secret Service arrested several
Columbia >University students for counterfeiting. According to several news
articles the gang was >producing counterfeit $20.bills on an expensive full
>color copier that belonged to the University and was located in the printing office.
>
>According to one source the Secret Service traced the bills back to
Columbia University >because of a hidden code that is transmitted/imprinted onto
>all documents that have been copied. The buyer of that particular copier
was registered >and on file with the manufacturer. It was simple to trace back...
>Does anyone on the list have info on this subject? Is it ONLY the expensive
>full color copiers? Could the same technology be used on laser printers?
I had some information about that copy machine. It can be connected
to a computer, plus it can print on either side of the paper. The
capabilities of that piece of equipment are immeasureable. Anyway the
copier costs roughly $15,000 and must have a federal license to own or
do anything with. If I can find the Info I had on it I'll scan and
send to you.
Pete Lasky
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6)From: Bret Watson
Subject: Post: YAI (yet another intro)
Impressive - this list...
I'm Bret Watson,
I own Bret Watson & Associates (obviously).
We cover many things, but specialise in security audits - computer &
information security. We also do a computer security advisory service.
But enough of the advertising... back o the normal program.
Cheers,
Bret
Bret Watson bwa@usa.net
fax/phone +61 9 454 6042
Computer Security Consultants
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7)From: alfaomeg@cadvision.com (Richard L. Banting)
Subject: Intro
We are Alfa-Omega Investigations International Inc. of Calgary
Alberta Canada and we have 6 offices with numerous international
contacts. We also are a data source for other companies to get
info from Canada. Also, we sell and install electronic equipment
which includes doing sweeps and a cell phone taping machine.
Rich
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8)From R0819@aol.com
Subject: Re: The Surveillance List...
I have twelve years of law enforcement experience with the last seven of that
being in narcotics investigation. In March 1996, I moved back to my hometown
(Mobile, Al.) and started a private investigation business. Things have not
slowed down since.
All of the experience and technical knowledge I gained as a law enforcement
officer has easily transferred to working investigations for the private
sector. It will be good to discuss different surveillance techniques used
around the country and be exposed to the different types of equipment
available.
Rick Weatherby
R0819@aol.com
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9)From: Dexter Romanez
Subject: Telephone surviellance
I generally do your typical insurance surviellance work. Background
checks and follow the mark and wait till he or she does something they claim
they can't do. (such as Scuba diving, weight lifting, walking, working, etc.)
But on a personal level, I've always been extremely interested in
gadgets. (Preferably the cheaper kind that simply gets the job done.)
My question is as follows:
If someone has a scanner can they listen in on your telephone
conversation, if your on a portable phone which has a factory built in
scrambler?
I would greatly appreciate any information anyone can give regarding
this particular question.
Thanks
Dex
dromanez@ix.netcom.com
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10)From: "Tedy"
Subject: Post
I am in electronic surveillance gear for about 10 years, including bugs,
antisurveillance devices etc. (not video). I'll apreciate if anyone can
provide or sell me plans of devices,and I need a provider of cases-plastic
and/or metal for my gear.
Thanks,
Tedy,
tedi@netvision.net.il
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11)From: Trace Carpenter
Subject: Intro
I am a licensed private investigator and former police officer.
I specialize in electronic surveillance and countersurveillance.
Although I work for anyone, many of my clients are other investigators
who don't have the electronics background that I have and understanding
of high-tech surveillance.
Sincerely,
Trace Carpenter, P.I.
Tech @ Large
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12)From: TROOPA5@aol.com
Subject: Re: Copy Machine Coding
Responding to the coding of copy machines; one question comes to mind, is
this electronic code mandated by the federal government or is it a choosen
path taken by the manufacturers of color copiers. Now I don't want to sound
like a paranoid anti-governmentalist, but if it's a mandate by the federal
government, I think "BIG BROTHER" is going a little too far. This might help
convict a few counterfeiters in the US, but the main counterfeiting stage of US
bills is held in countries other than the United States. Other than detecting
counterfeiters, I can see no other purpose of this coding, although I'm sure
there are many.
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13)From: Ron Smalley
Subject: Laser Listener
Has any one used / tested ! the Laser Window Bounce Listener, advertised
byInformation Unlimited in Popular Science ? I have not been able to contact
the company from NZ, nor could a friend in USA get any answer on the
0800 221 1705 number. I had arranged for him to collect one on my behalf
without luck. Anyway in the mean time, I would like to know something of
its performance, also if the laser beam is visible or IR.?
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14)>From: "Anastasios D. Panos"
Subject: Intro
Panos & Associates,, P. 0. Box 19063, Athens 117 10, Greece
Ph: +30-1-923.7420, Fax: +30-1-923.2787 Mobile: +30-93-214.287
Contact: Anastasios D. Panos (Intelnet,WAD,CII,ASIS,NAIS,ISDA,IPC)
Specialised but not limited to: V.I.P. Close Protection, Due Diligence,
Counterfeit Investications,Insurance Fraud, Covert Video Surveillances,
Technical Support Systems
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15)From: SpyKing@thecodex.com
Subject: Doppler RDF System
I came across these specs for the new Doppler RDF System if anyone's
interested.
RADIO DIRECTION FINDING SYSTEM
The DDF6000 processor-display offers accuracy of 2 degrees over it's
operating range of 125 to 1000 MHZ when configured with a DDF605X
8-element fixed site antenna and a receiver of the Icom R7000 class.
These antennas include Doppler's RF summing circuitry in a weather sealed
unit built into the antenna hub. The DF sensitivity is typically -130dBm for
CW and -126dBm for pulse type signals in this configuration.
The commutation frequency is selectable from the front panel from 300,
600, 1200 and 2400 Hz, and the corresponding modulation tone is filtered from audio
output delivered to the built-in monitor speaker.. Other front panel controls
select the number of bearings over which the output data is continuously
averaged from the preceding 1, 2, 5, 10, or 20 to reduce multi paths errors,
provide the necessary calibration settings, and switch in (or out) the
built-in 20 BB RF attenuator.or.r...
The output data can be viewed on an LED compass rose and on a 3 digit
LED display is also available in serial form from two data ports at the rear.
Doppler's proprietary "Bearing Track" software is included in the fixed
station DF package; it facilitates fast data acquisition from multiple
sites and provides real time triangulation of signal source locations on digital maps.
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16)From: SpyKing@thecodex.com
Subject: New Ulralite Batteries
I came across this announcement if anyone's interested. These batteries are
SUPER thin and could have some great applications for surveillance work (body wires,
Trojan horses, Throwaways, etc.)
"Ultralife Batteries, Inc. has enhanced its range of THIN CELLS by expanding
the number of cell sizes available and reducing the thickness of cells to as
thin as 0.019 in. (0.5mm).
The ultra-thin, flexible Thin Cells - primary batteries utilizing Ultralife's
high-performance lithium-manganese dioxide chemistry - are used in diverse
applications, from smart cards and security devices to asset tracking/management
systems and communications equipment.
Thin Cells provide a cost-effective and energy-efficient solution for
applications requiring the thinnest possible batteries.
ULTRALIFE BATTERIES, INC."
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17)From SpyKing@thecodex.com
Subject: Re: Fiber Optics
Here's some literature from a manufacturer. This company is online.
There are several others...
The new FLEXIBLE FIBEROPTIC BORESCOPE is the perfect inspection and diagnostic tool.
With the ability to look for contraband, trace bullet trajectory, make visual
checks under vehicles and look into rooms, etc., you will save an incredible
amount of time and potentially save an officer's life. The flexible scope allows
access into many areas normally inaccessible without disassembly or careful removal
of other obstructions. This medical grade fiberoptic scope uses a halogen fiberoptic
light source and fully illuminates the area to be inspected. The scope system is
fully portable and lightweight. The light source will work off a 12V vehicle battery,
portable rechargeable battery pack or 110V.
The flexible scope systems are available in various lengths starting at 26 inches
and can bend to a 1-1/2" radius. Only 5/16" in diameter, the flexible scope system
allows entry into the tightest of spaces. The scope can be used in conjunction with
a video camera for documentation during evidence gathering and/or viewing on a television screen.
Contact VISION TOOLS
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18)From: spyking@thecodex.com
Subject: New DEA Product?
Allegedly being developed for the DEA...
The Personal Command System (PCS) is a field-deployable laptop computer
system that automates surveillance and tracking information of a "tagged"
suspect vehicle(s). The PCS can access remote command center computer data
bases by digital radio or cellular telephone. The PCS contains digitized
street maps of different cities and states. It accepts, as input, electronic
location/time messages generated by a tracking tag covertly installed on a
suspect's vehicle.
The messages are translated into icons that are superimposed on the digital
map for operator viewing. The PCS also can display the location of agents
tracking the suspect vehicle and transmit/receive digital video images, such
as a new photograph of a suspect or vehicle. The PCS enables operators to
perform digital communications to other PCS operators and the command center.
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19)From: SpyKing@thecodex.com
Subject: Downloadable Digital Micro Recorder...
Small Talk is a micro-miniature audio recorder that addresses a need of a law enforcement
agencies to record conversations with concealed devices. It uses high-density, solid-state
memories and digital signal processing elements in a recording module that measures 2.1 x2.5x 0.2 inches.
Compared to tape recorders, this solid-state audio recorder is smaller, more reliable, and less susceptible
to detection. Its very small size results from the minimization of components and the use of advanced
packaging technology.
Small Talk can record intelligible speech for more than 3 hours and can download all the recorded data
to a portable computer (PC) in less than 1 minute. The PC stores the data on its hard disk, decompresses
the data in real time, and plays the data back on a speaker. The DoD is sponsoring the development of
Small Talk in collaboration with law enforcement agencies. ESL Incorporated of Sunnyvale, California,
is the developing contractor.
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IN THIS ISSUE...
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01) Intro - United Kingdom
02) Intro - Australia
03) Re: Smalltalk?
04) Re: Copy machine coding
05) Intro
06) Re: ESI Training School
07) Re: Telephone Surveillance
08) Vehicle Tracking Systems?
09) Re: Telephone Surveillance
10) Re: Vehicle Tracking Systems
11) SSN Search Demo
12) Scrambler Warning
13) Bug a Caddy?
14) Intro
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1)From: Ian Bennett
Subject: Intro
Ian Bennett (Managing Director)
Inside Information Limited
4-5 The Triangle
Bitterne park
Southampton
Hampshire
England
SO18 1FZ
We design and manufacture a wide range of surveillance equipment. From cheap
low cost items for the ordinary man in the street to more specialist equipment utilising frequency
hopping and broad spectrum modes. We specialise in covert video equipment.
I hope the list will help me to follow trends and see what new technological
developments influence the products we design and sell.
Ian Bennett
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2)From: "Investigators(Australia)"
Subject: Intro
My name is Frank Church and I have been an Investigator for 27 years.
Lots more in my Web page. Hope that 1997 will be a fantastic year for you.
Investigators (Australia) Pty Ltd Est 1969
Please visit us on http://www.investigatorsoz.com.au
Based in Adelaide South Australia but covering all of
Australia and New Zealand for Investigations,
Process Serving and Security.
"Australia, not just a Country. A way of life."
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3)From WWMason@aol.com
Subject: Re: Smalltalk
Is the digital micro recorder available? Where? What cost?
+++ Moderators Note+++
"ESL Incorporated of Sunnyvale, California, is the developing contractor"
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4)From juanh@erols.com
Subject: Re: Copy machine coding
Regarding the color copier subject... it could be an addition to the
toner of the copier. There is an American company based in New Jersey
that created a series of special quimical product, totally invisible
except under laser light. The product reacts under laser light and
changes the frequency of the light response (so the paper printed with
this toner addendum could react to laser in many frequencies and
colors). It's really cheap stuff (2 cents per copy) and can be added to
anything that print including inkjet printers. The primaru targets of
these products is obviously counterfeiting (money, packaging, products
licensed, clothes.. you name it...
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5)From fyinc@information4U.com
Subject: Intro
Chris Miller
Over 17 years of corporate investigative experience.
FYI Investigations, Inc. TEL: 800-809-2419
12 Westerville Square, Suite 250 FAX: (614) 890-9095
Westerville, OH 43081 E-MAIL: fyinc@ix.netcom.com
WEB PAGE: http://www.netcom.com/~fyinc/solutions.html
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6)From JEasom1046@aol.com
Subject: Re: ESI SCHOOL
I myself have not attended the Executive Security International school in
Colorado, however, I am familiar with others who have. I am told this
paticular school provides training but no support. I attended the Executive
Protection Institute located in Berryville, Va. some ten years ago, and, am
still able to make contact at will for technical support. From electronic
devices to local referrals worldwide for assistance with protective details,
to advanced training. The training I received at the Executive Protection
Institute was fast paced, hands on seven full days and nights. The training
was very professional with much emphasis on the stress related to this
field. I would recommend the Executive Protection Institute to anyone who
wishes to excell themselves in the protective field.
jerry easom, PPS
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7)From: trever.kb9nhu@juno.com (Trever C. Trader)
Subject: Re: Telephone Surveillance
>My question is as follows:
>
>If someone has a scanner can they listen in on your telephone
>conversation, if your on a portable phone which has a factory built in
>scrambler? I would greatly appreciate any information anyone can give
regarding this particular question.
>
>Thanks
>Dex
>dromanez@ix.netcom.com
Dex,
Yes, You can still listen in on telephone conversations that are
scrambled, the company that I recently started, "Were Watching", sells a
speech inversion kit that will unscramble the cordless phone scrambling
methods. They will decode anything with the inversion. We also carry the
encoder, that way if you are using a cordless phone, a 2-way radio,
anything to tx/rx with, you can use the two in conjunction and you're all
set. So if you are interested, drop me an e-mail...
Trever C. Trader
KB9NHU
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8)From: Roy Rutherford
Subject: Vehicle tracking systems
I too am former law enforcement, now a private investigator. I am
interested in a good vehicle tracking system. The last one I used was a
Birddog and it did a great job. I am not in the position to spend 14K
on a system. Are there now less expensive, equally good systems??
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9)From: CrACKeD
Subject: Post Re: Telephone surviellance
> From: Dexter Romanez
> Subject: Telephone surviellance
> My question is as follows:
>
> If someone has a scanner can they listen in on your telephone
> conversation, if your on a portable phone which has a factory built in
> scrambler?
>
> I would greatly appreciate any information anyone can give regarding
> this particular question.
>
> Thanks
> Dex
First of all, I'm going to assume you're dealing with a telephone using
the popular audio frequency inversion type of scrambling, not spread
spectrum or some other form of digital scrambling. There are plenty of
descrambler units on the market, the first that comes to mind is the SS-70
scrambler/descrambler kit sold by Ramsey Kits (1-800-446-2295), which is
very inexpensive and should get the job done well. Another unit that comes
to mind is the Colt VS-1 descrambler, but since it was originally designed
for use with C.B. radio I would think twice before using it to descramble
cordless telephone audio. I'm sure someone else can give you a lead or
two, but you've got a couple for now.
CrACKeD
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10)From: SpyKing@thecodex.com
Subject: Re: Vehicle Tracking Systems
NavTech has product info at:
http://www.navtechgps.com/vehtrk.htm
CTI has product info at:
http://www.affordnet.com/cti/
CyberNet Systems has product info at:
http://www.cybernet.com/products/wireless/vehicles.html
Provided FYI only and is NOT an endorsement of these systems.
Hope this helps...
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11)From: SPyKing@thecodex.com
Subject: SSN Search Demo
Checkout: http://www.americanautomated.com/
They offer a FREE demo
This is provided for info only and is NOT an endorsement.
"Locate Anyone, Anywhere in the U.S. immediately and
confidentialy using only the subjects Social Security Number.
Fully Interactive, receive the results of your search NOW.
No need to wait for a human to process your report.
Data returned may contain Current and Previous addresses, Aliases,
Phone Numbers, and even Year of Birth.
Information is collected on demand from Public Record and
Private Databases and is not directly maintained by AAS."
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12)From: Ron Smalley
Subject: SCRAMBLER WARNING
I was asked to check a proprietary brand of telephone scrambler, " speech
inversion type". They worked well if listening on the line. However , recorded ,
scrambled messages were descrambled when played back, possibly because of the
audio and bias frequency mixing. If recommending these to a client, it may
by wise to carry out some checks.
Ron Smalley, Intersek Status,
Auckland, New Zealand.
rons@ns.planet.gen.nz
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13)From: "Sammy Piazza"
Subject: Bug a caddy?
Hello from northern California:
My Wife And I attended the I.O.N Convention (Investigators On-Line Network)
last April in Scottsdale AZ. I am intrested in locating anyone who also
attended I.O.N convention? If so please drop me a line at Shuffleking@msn.com.
I am in the information business. My company is Alpha Omega Information
Brokers & Process Servers. I have a Web Site at web-law.com/process/piazza.html.
I intend to launch a counter-surveillance business that deals with hardware
sales and TSCM. Co-incidently there is an ALFA-OMEGA INVESTIGATIONS in Canada
that loged on a couple of days ago. Hello Alberta!
Can anyone out there tell me the best way to "bug" a car for audio & video
and tracking. ie: 1977 Cadillac Coupe De Ville? Thanks...Sammy
**************************************************************************
14)From: Tom Hughes
Subject: Intro
Computer Tech and Owner of Computer Store
Have been in countersurveillance For 8 Years
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Vol One 1996 Iss #5
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IN THIS ISSUE...
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01) Voice Changers
02) Re:Factory Scramblers
03) Intro - Engineer
04) Re: Vehicle Tracking Systems
05) How Santa Knows...
06) Re: Scramber Warning
07) Re: Laser Listening Device
08) Intro - Denmark
09) Question
10) Need Help in Australia
11) Re: Cordless Telephone Surveillance
12) Telephone Analyzer/Modification Question
13) Audio Quality of Formats?
14) Intro - Isreal
15) Intro - Puerto Rico
16) Intro - Voice Recognition/Conversation Content Analysis
17) Re: Laser Listening Devices
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1)From: PRV8EYE@aol.com
Subject: Voice Changers
Surveillance suppliers used to list several models of telephone voice
changers in their catalogs but now they have disappeared. Did they not work
well? Did the changed voice sound human or synthesized? Any recommendations
on brands?
Gus Morrow
Oceanside CA
CA Lic# PI17173
prv8eye@aol.com
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2)From: Jim Ray
Subject: Re: factory scramblers
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>If someone has a scanner can they listen in on your telephone
>conversation, if your on a portable phone which has a factory built in
>scrambler?
I wouldn't put too much faith in factory scramblers on voice equipment to
repel anything beyond a casual snooper. Encryption was never the phone
companies' strong suit, as the "cloning" problem makes obvious. Part of this
problem is due to simpleminded US government regulations* on the technology
(which, BTW, could be circumvented by all but the most simpleminded crooks).
For stronger voice or email encryption, or for work of almost any kind in
the southern FL area, you can contact me. As you can see from this message
(if they don't edit my PGPsignature out) strong encryption also allows for
useful identity authentication. It is worth looking into, if you like
keeping your secrets.
* ITAR Section 120.17 (IV) & 121.1 (XIII) 22 USC 2778 & 2779
JMR
regards, Jim Ray
Despite almost every experience I've ever had with federal authority,
I keep imagining its competence. -- John Perry Barlow
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3)From: brozenske@juno.com (Barrie L Brozenske)
Subject: Intro
I am an electrical engineer with interest in the technology side of
surveillance. I am involved professionally in communications systems,
but not specifically in interception technology, or other survelliance
specific areas.
Regards,
Barrie Brozenske
brozenske@juno.com
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4)From: "Stephen Douglas"
Subject: Re: Vehicle Tracking Systems
14k for a Bird Dog?!? They don't even work that well! That incidently
is the reason that I offer the Roanoke Doppler DF in kit form for
$128.00. If you have the skill to put it togther yourself, you can't
beat the deal.
Check it out at:
http://www.dfsystems.com
Thanks all,
Stephen Douglas K6HZT
http://www.dfsystems.com
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5)From: CrACKeD
Subject: How Santa Knows
Sung to the tune of "Santa Claus is Coming to Town"
You'd better watch out,
You'd better not cry,
You'd better not pout;
I'm telling you why.
Santa Claus is tapping
Your phone.
He's bugging your room,
He's reading your mail,
He's keeping a file
And running a tail.
Santa Claus is tapping
Your phone.
He hears you in the bedroom,
Surveills you out of doors,
And if that doesn't get the goods,
Then he'll use provocateurs.
So--you mustn't assume
That you are secure.
On Christmas Eve
He'll kick in your door.
Santa Claus is tapping
Your phone.
[Supposedly written for and sung at a US Department of Justice,
Office of Legal Counsel Christmas party]
CrACKeD
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6)From: Lucky Green
Subject: Re: SCRAMBLER WARNING
>I was asked to check a proprietary brand of telephone scrambler, " speech
>inversion type". They worked well if listening on the line. However ,
>recorded , scrambled messages were descrambled when played back, possibly
>because of the audio and bias frequency mixing. If recommending these to a client,
>it may by wise to carry out some checks.
To quote from "Applied Cryptography", the seminal book on the topic:
"There are two kinds of cryptography in this world: cryptography that will stop
your kid sister from reading your file, and cryptography that will stop major
governments from reading your files. This book is about the latter."
Any product advertized as "scrambling" device falls invariably into the former
category. [It might, depending on her age and intelligence, work against your
kid sister.]
The use of spread spectrum technology can make interception more difficult,
assuming (a big assumption) the system uses frequent hops, but spread spectrum
technology can not put interception beyond the reach of a moderately resourceful
opponent. There is only one way to keep your communications private. By using
proven encryption technology.
Often you will hear about devices that use "proprietary" algorithms and methods.
They typically are described as "unbreakable". You can safely ignore them. Very
few of these systems would pose a challenge to my little sister. See the Snake Oil
FAQ for more information on this topic:
How can you secure your communications? By using software or devices that employ proven encryption
methods such as 3DES and IDEA. There are several software-only solutions, with PGPFone leading the
field.
One of the problems with software-only solutions is that they typically require a fast multimedia computer. T
he advantage is that PGPFone is freeware.
The more solid approach is to use a hardware device. There is a wide variety of such devices to choose from.
Virtually all fall into the kid sister category, with a few notable exceptions.
First, there are the STU-III compliant telephones manufactured by AT&T and Motorola.
The STU-III's are state-of-the-art devices, certified by the USG for communications up to the Top Secret level.
Needless to say, STU-III's are not available to the general public. If you have access to an STU-III, by all means use it.
There are similarly looking phones, using the Clipper chip or Fortezza cards. Both use what is called "key escrow".
A copy of the decryption key is kept in a database for "lawfully authorized" parties to access. Meaning that the contents
of your communication are available to the highest bidder.
The only other device I am aware of that falls into the latter category is the CS8191 by Communication Security C
orporation.
The CS8191 uses 3DES and 2048 bit Diffie-Hellman. This is a no-compromise device that I can in good conscience
recommend for any application. The device is the size of an external modem. It fits underneath a phone. I have tested
it and can attest to the voice quality and the security of the underlying cryptography. The only drawback is that the
system costs $1,000 per end. I don't know how much an STU-III sells for, but I doubt it is any cheaper.
You might be able to get other devices for less. If your thread model involves only a casual eavesdropper, such devices
might suffice. If your thread model involves industrial espionage, litigation, or foreign governments, get the real thing.
Disclaimer: I have extensive experience in the fields of computer telephony and cryptography. I have no interest,
financial or otherwise, in the companies mentioned in my post. I know Eric Blossom, the CEO of Communications
Security Corporation professionally. If you talk with him, say hello from Lucky.
-- Lucky Green PGP encrypted mail preferred
Make your mark in the history of mathematics. Use the spare cycles of
your PC/PPC/UNIX box to help find a new prime.
http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm
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7)From: ILQQK4DOE@aol.com
Subject: Re: Laser Listening Device
to: Panos/Greece.
I am familiar with information unlimited in New Hampshire. Be advised that
the products that they sell ar not legal to possess in this area even in
parts form, which brings me to my next point they sell you the stuff in its
basest form. Unless you have a higher degree in satelite engineering there is
a good bet that you are not going to be able to assemble their stuff. One of
my staff has a masters from MIT in computer engineering and he could not get
half their stuff assembled. I hope this helps. Good luck.
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8)From: ole.worm@post2.tele.dk (Worm, Ole)
Subject: Intro - Pi-Consult Investigations and Security Denmark
Dear List members,
I have subscribed this list since December 25, 1996 and read all the
contribution with interest. Allow me to introduce myself and my firm.
My name is Ole Worm and I am a full time investigator / security
consultant, founder and owner of Pi-Consult Investigations and Security Denmark.
Pi-Consult is founded in 1987 and we are able to undertake every kind of
investigation, surveillance, tracing, interviewing, background check,
pre-employment check, debt collection, courier service, VIP protection
service,property protection, loss prevention, mystery shopping etc.
Further details can be supplied on request.
Pi-Consult and our employees are authorized by the Danish Police
under the law of security companies (law no. 266 of 22 may 1986).
All tasks are considered strictly confidential and all our employees are
bound to general professional secrecy.
PS Our specialty is loss prevention and video surveillance. . .
Best regards
Ole Worm
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pi-Consult Investigations and Security Denmark
Vester Voldgade 83, DK 1552 Copenhagen V.
Tel. (+45)70209905 <> Fax. (+45) 53708511
E-mail: pi-consult@post2.tele.dk.
http://www.profil.com/piconsult/picuk.htm.
=====================================
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9)From: Nick Golas
Subject: Question
My question is what has happened to Milton William Cooper of "Behold a Pale
Horse" fame?
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10)From: Filmgroup1@aol.com
Subject: Need Help in Australia
Independant film production company based in New York, prepping for movie shoot in Sydney, Australia.
Looking for PI/surveillance consultant - preferably local to Sydney area but over i'net is fine. Offering
substantial/prominent credits.
Daniel (filmgroup1@aol.com)
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11)From: EWW2000@aol.com
Subject: Re: Cordless Telephone Surveillance
In a message dated 96-12-28 04:26:00 EST, you write:
>If someone has a scanner can they listen in on your telephone
>conversation, if your on a portable phone which has a factory built in
>scrambler?
>I would greatly appreciate any information anyone can give regarding
>this particular question.
I heard about someone using another "scrambled" cordless phone to decode the
intercepted audio from a mark.
Good Luck.
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12)From: Robert Harnell
Subject: Telephone analyser
I would be interested in knowing if anyone out there has used or is
using the TSA-1 Telephone analyser from TSA. What do you think of this
unit? Will it do the job? If so, what are some of the drawbacks if
any? Will the unit work on the new digital telephone systems.
One other question. I would like to know if anyone can tell me
how to internally modify the Meridian digital telephone set (made by
Northern Telecom) to be able to record conversation via the bix bloc.
Thanks
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13)From: miklas@bway.net
Subject: audio quality of formats
Could you put these in order of audio quality? Is there a book that
compares the formats? I would like to know what my options are in terms of
$=quality. I realize Dolby NR makes a difference and some have it and some
do not. Also it does depend of what source sound I'm recording, for example,
orchestra music or movie production dialog. The third factor are the
compression schemes of digital tape recorders... So, without the limitations
of certain companies machines, how do they stack up?
analog audio cassette Cr02 tape
analog audio cassette Metal tape
analog mono linear VHS VCR Hi-grade Tape
analog Hi-Fi stereo AFM VHS VCR Hi-grade tape
analog Hi-Fi stereo Betamax VCR Hi-grade tape
analog Hi-Fi stereo Hi-8 VCR Hi-grade tape metal or metal evaporated
analog S-VHS video tape Hi-Fi stereo AFM? Hi-grade tape
analog stereo 3/4" Umatic SP VTR Ch.1&2 Hi-grade tape
analog 1/4" NAGRA audio tape 7 i.p.s./15 i.p.s.
analog 1/2" audio tape -two track or 8 track
analog 1" audio tape -24 track
analog 2" audio tape 48 track
digital 2" audio tape digital 48 track - 16bit? 20bit? superbitmapping?
analog BetacamSP video tape Ch.1&2 linear
analog BetacamSP video tape Ch.3&4 AFM
Digital Betacam video tape /stereo 4 tracks /component 4:2:2 video sampling
Digital S video tape /stereo 4 tracks/ 4:2:2 v.s.
analog Betacam SX video tape Ch1&2 Linear
analog Betacam SX video tapeCh.3&4 AFM / 4:2:2 v.s.
analog 1" video tape- with mono/stereo tracks
minidisc digital recordable CD- compressed audio, 16-bit?
Digital Audio Tape (DAT) 16bit 44.1khz or 48khz
A-DAT Digital Tape- sampling rate? 44.1khz?
DVD digital CD- 96khz sampling rate/ uncompressed?
DVD digital video -AC-3 Dolby 5.1 Channel compressed
DVPRO digital video tape 16bit 48khz compressed component 4:1:1 v.s.
DVCAM digital video tape /4 stereo digital channels component 4:1:1 v.s.
DV/miniDV digital video tape= 12 bit 4 Ch. compressed component 4:1:1 v.s.
DV/miniDV digital video tape =16bit 48khz compressed component 4:1:1 v.s.
D-1 digital video tape - sampling rate? no compression 4:2:2 v.s.
D-2 digital video tape - sampling rate? compressed
D-3 digital video tape - sampling rate? compressed
D-5 digital video tape - sampling rate? compressed 4:2:2 video sampling
thanks for your help.
-miklas
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14)From: Ziv Dascalu
Subject: Intro
N E T W I Z A R D
Active Network Protection for the Enterprise
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Phone: +972-4-9590660 Fax: +972-4-9590661
The Kochav Tower 5th Floor, Yukneum, ISRAEL
Mailing Addr:P.O.Box 251, Yukneum 20692,ISRAEL
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15)From: ERIC C HART
Subject: Intro
Eric C. Hart - intell@coqui.net (home.coqui.net/intell/)
Licensed Private Investigator in Puerto Rico past ten years
Prior law enforcement experience for twenty years.
We specialize in surveillance and covert operations.
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16)From: GaltJohn22@aol.com
Subject: Intro
Well, since everyone is introducing themselves, I'm
Hal Popplewell, Chairman of the IntelliSys companies -
we develop large scale artificial intelligence systems for
government agencies and industry. As you might imagine,
voice recognition and conversation content analysis is of
interest to government and industry alike.
We are looking for sponsors right now for a new knowledge
based system which will detect falsehoods in large/complex
sets of transcripts and other documents. Further uses will
include codification of law into expert system rules and
assessing evidence bases as they are built to find weaknesses
etc.
- Hal
hep@itsy.com -or- GaltJohn22@aol.com
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17)From: SpyKing@thecodex.com
Subject: Re: Laser Listening Device
>Has any one used / tested ! the Laser Window Bounce Listener, advertised
>by Information Unlimited in Popular Science ? I have not been able to contact
>the company from NZ, nor could a friend in USA get any answer on the
>0800 221 1705 number. I had arranged for him to collect one on my behalf
>without luck. Anyway in the mean time, I would like to know something of
>its performance, also if the laser beam is visible or IR.?
Information unlimited DOES have a web site. Are located at: http://www.amazing1.com/index.html
Regarding their Laser Window Bouce System, I bought one about a year ago for a few hundred dollars
to test it. It is a Kit. You MUST be technically proficient to construct it. The device DOES work but we
found it useless for field applications. It is VERY limited (50 feet) in range. I use it as a demonstration
tool in a conference room setting. IMHO that's ALL it's good for... We also found some design flaws (IMHO)
which we corrected. It improved performance slightly but not enough for field work with the manufacturers
supplied components...
Laser eavesdropping systems are out there... AND they are VERY difficult to use.
If you're serious about acquiring one, I would research everything on the subject, find an experienced tech
and build one... I've been working on one for years but it's not where I want it to be...
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Vol One 1996 Iss #6
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IN THIS ISSUE... Membership is now at 900+ worldwide... Let's ALL contribute
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01) Re: Cordless Telephone Surveillance
02) Re: Voice Changers
03) Intro - Wired/Wireless
04) Re: Bug a Caddy
05) Re: Cordless Telephone Surveillance
06) Intro - Australia
07) Vehicle Tracking Question
08) Police Eavesdropping Question
09) Re: Parabolic Microphone Question
10) Alternative to TEMPEST
11) Intro - Rhode Island
12) The Best Bug detector?
13) Intro - California
14) Intro - Canada
15) Intro - Sources eJournal
16) Intro - Alabama
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1)From Ukfan1a@aol.com
Subject: Re: Cordless Telephone Surveillance
I've got more questions on the cordless phone eavesdropping subject:
Everyone I talk to in the Usenet newsgroups say that the new 900 mhz
spread-spectrum cordless phones cannot be cracked. I know that the speech
inversion models can easily, but the new technology with the spread spectrum
would appear much harder.
Has anyone heard of a way to break the spread-spectrum yet? And if so, who
offers it?
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2)From: CrACKeD
Subject: Re: Voice Changers
The Edge Company sells both a portable voice changer that connects inline
with your telephone as well as a complete telephone with the voice changing
technology built in. Both offer 16 levels of different masking levels
which sound quite convincing. I've heard them change a high-pitched voice
into a deep and threatening voice. The Edge Company has a web site at
www.edgeco.com and pictures of their products should be available there. I
believe that XANDI Electronics sells the same units I've just described,
but I'm currently not able to tell if they're still in business or not.
CrACKeD
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3)From: "Israel Rosencrantz"
Subject: Intro
I work in computer network management and security in both wired and
wireless networks. I also am an amateur radio operator and am very
interested in wireless technologies and security.
Israel Rosencrantz (KB2ZSC)
[http://www.planet.net/peterr]
<> When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. <>
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4)From: SpyKing@thecodex.com
Subject: Re: Bug a Caddy?
>Can anyone out there tell me the best way to "bug" a car for audio & video
>and tracking. ie: 1977 Cadillac Coupe De Ville?
>Thanks...Sammy
Aside from the common surveillance transmitters that are available, consider some exotic installations...
I've experimented with a DC powered TX hidden under dashboard that is activated by pager with a time
out mechanism... Naturally, the tone alert is de-activated.
I'm also experimenting with modified cellular telephone with ring de-activated, automatic answer, encryption
and FET microphone. You don't have to worry about your LP. It's anywhere you are... Just dial up, listen,
hang up when finished... Video transmission is also possible with this method... Tracking is possible with
various software on the market...
Provided FYI only ;-)
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5)From: ljmart@prtc.net
Subject: Re: Cordless Telephone Surveillance - DS-8000
Hello everyone:
If what Dexter Romanez was refering to was voice inversion
let me say this. I own a "secure" Motorola telephone model VST 350
When I tune the frequency that is being used all you hear is a
Donald Duck like sound that is totally unrecognizable both the
conversation and who is speaking. I also own a AR8000 hand held
scanner with a DS-8000 chip installed inside the scanner.What
this little chip does is to unscramble anything being said.
You turn this feature on and off using the LOCAL key and tune
the invertion freq. using the DIAL key,very simple.
I don't know if is still available in the US. Don't even know if
is legal..
PS Every one home knows about the scanner the, chip etc etc..
Hope to hear about all of you soon..Luis
+++Moderator's Note+++
Info on the DS-8000 Chip? Source? Mods? Etc?
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6)From: Elementary Investigations Pty Ltd
Subject: Intro from Australia
Dear members,
My name is Johan Erlandsson, I am a private Investigator/Counter Espionage
Consultant based in Sydney.
My main line of business is TSCM and counter espionage. I have a good deal
of experience with technical surveillance methods and know most of the tricks.
I joined the list to learn what others out there know and hopefully share
some of my experience with others.
Kind regards
Johan Erlandsson
lmntry@ozemail.com.au
Ph(612) 9774 3883
fax(612) 9771 2286
Mobile 0418 975567
PO Box 6
Padstow NSW Australia 2211
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7)From: zac
Subject: Intro/VTS Question
Hi all,
You have all probably seen my surveillance vehicle on my web site: www.magicnet.net/~qzar
But I am working on the next gen tracking device and would like your serious input. I have made a tracking
system that is planted on a vehicle and will display the vehicles exact position on a map on a monitor in your
vehicle. Yes it does work... BUT...
The transmitter unit that goes on the subjects vehicle is about the size of a good sized remote control and has
an effective range of 1-2 miles. the unit can run from its own batteries but it will not last very long ( Although
it could be attached to the car battery ). The unit must have at least partial view of the sky ( It receives signals
from the GPS satelites ) What I want to know is, the transmitter part costs around $500 - $600. Is this going to
be too expensive to be worth it? ( The whole system will cost around $4000) let me know what you would want
in terms of range and cost.
If you havent already, check out the car on the web site, its really unique.
Thanks
Zac Adams
E-MAIL qzar@magicnet.net
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8)From sasoda@eagledesign.com
Subject: Intro/Eavesdropping Question
Hi i've been a member of this list since the beginning. I didn't
send an intro earlier due to the fact i'm not a professional in this
field as it seems so many of the others are. Anyway I'm very interested
in material of this nature and would like to ask a question.
Recently a student of mine had his phone tapped by the police at the
request of his parents (he is/was a minor) to determine if their son was
in fact smoking marijuana. The tap was in place for roughly six months,
this seems overly long since I got the impression that the desired info
could have easily been obtained in six days, so why leave the tap in
place for so long? My guess was that they wished to find out who was
supplying him with the substance. Is such a tap legal? What, if
anything, can the police do with the information gained by this?
Till next time,
Carlos Bermudez
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9)From: SpyKing@thecodex.com
Subject: Re: Parabolic Microphone Question
>Question: Can the Parabolic Ear/Mic systems pick up sounds through walls/
>structures--or is it only for receiving open-air sounds? How good is the
>quality of sound you get?
>
>Luna
The parabolic microphone CANNOT pickup sound through walls/structures, etc.
It is a line of sight open air device... here are some product specs on one of the most popular parabolic
microphones, the Dan Gibson model... provided FYI only, this is NOT an endorsement...
"Parabolic Microphone
Pick up and magnify signals up to 75 times that of a normal omnidirectional microphone while remaining
virtuaily impervious to overload.
Dynamic capsule provides pick-up from the entire 18-3/4" shield.
Unwanted background noise is minimized giving the highest signal-to-noise ratio
possible.
A specially developed plastic reflector makes this microphone highly desirable for use in the most difficult and
demanding situations.
Perfectly suited for sound recording on video tape, it pick up voices and sound that your regular video
camera cannot record.
Electronic model: This model can be used separately for listening without the use of a tape recorder.
Recommended for voice recording as well as music and nature sounds. Complete with built-in microphone
capsule, equalizer- amplifier in handle, earphone, aiming sights, effects/voice switch and vinyl carrying case.
Specifications:
Capsule: 600 ohms dynamic
Shield: 18-3/4' (47.6 cm)
Microphone cable: 3" (3.3m) diameter- 2 conductor and
shield 6' long (1.83m)
Frequency response
output: 150 to 20KHz 5dB
pseudo balance red or white-live
black -100 ohms to ground
Output level: -42 dbm at 1 KHz
earphone Odb 5db-20db
Output impedance: 150 - 600 ohms
150 ohm earphone
Electronics: 21.C., 2 transistors, 3 diodes
Power supply: Bipolar, normal voltage
9 volts, range 8 to 10 volts,
current 5mA at 10 voits
3 mA at 8 volts
Battery life M1604 60 hours.
Weight (excl. case): 2 Ibs, 10 oz
(incl. earphones)
Earphones: high impedance to conserve
energy,
600 ohms (min. 150 ohms)
Case: Vinyl and styrofoam
Operating temp: -15F to 122F
-28C to 50C "
Hope this has been of help... if you want to listen thru walls use a contact microphone...
SpyKing
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10)From: Elementary Investigations Pty Ltd
Subject: Alternative to TEMPEST
There has been a lot of talk about Tempest monitoring lately. Tempest
monitoring for the majority of us is out of the question due to expense and
the lack of knowledge about the topic, not to mention the illegality of it.
For those of you interested in an alternative which is reliable and very
effective and if law permits in your area, I have just the thing.
Our technical staff at Elementary have developed a computer chip for an
anonymous client which is mounted on a card similar to the video card in
your computer. This card transmits every signal put out by your computer
tenfold. Monitoring the "on screen activity" is merely routine from there.
Not exactly tempest monitoring, but for what it's worth, it's a very close
substitute for now. Shielded computers have no added security when this
method is employed, they are as vulnerable as any other.
The unit can be purchased for around US$2500. 00.
I hope this information is useful to some of you.
Regards
Johan Erlandsson
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11)From: Matthew Wolfe
Subject: Intro
I am a licensed PI in the State of Rhode Island and am interested in
learning more about surveillance measures and would like to share some
of my methods with others in the field.
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12)From: MrNSPIRE@aol.com
Subject: The best bug detector?
Question: Can somebody help me find/recommend a 'telephone/car bug
detector'? Are they expensive? Are they complicated to use?
Thanks,
Mhagan
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13)From: Chuck Restivo
Subject: Surveillance list
My name is Chuck Restivo, and I am a computer scientist interested in
cryptography, and analysis of algorithms.
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14)From: Jason E.J. Manaigre (ratak@GargSec.mb.ca)
Subject: Intro
Security consultation/Education right now and maybe a Counter Spy Shop
through CCS International in our Area, (Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada)
Looking forward to quality posting...
___________________________________________________________________
GarGoyle Securities
Intrusion Assessment Systems
Security Consultation/Education/Curriculum Development
Project Management/Research/Analysis World Wide...
Member of CITDC (Canadian International Trade Development Council)
Email: ratak@GargSec.mb.ca (Jason E.J. Manaigre)
Web: www.GargSec.mb.ca
Email for PGP key with phrase 'Get Public Key' as Subject
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15)From: Josh Rinsky
Subject: subscribe-surveillance list
I work for an on-line investigative journal entitled SOURCES eJOURNAL
and a hard-copy, intelligence newsletter entitled SOURCES BRIEFINGS.
The eJournal covers topics of information, disinformation, intelligence,
and security.
The BRIEFINGS covers topics of security, international and national
intelligence issues, and world government issues.
Both publications have surveillance and counter-surveillance related
articles.
I am looking to begin a product review page within SOURCES eJOURNAL
covering spy tools of the trade and counter-surveillance equipment.
Thank you,
Joshua Rinsky
sales@dso.com
+++Moderator's Note+++
Sources eJournal is a first class publication and a wealth of info...
They even printed an article I wrote on TEMPEST a while back ;-)
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16)From: Leah
Subject: Intro
Leah Wesolowski
Private Investigator
Adoption Search Specialist (leahwes@iquest.com)
ACME Information
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Madison, AL. 35758
(205)464-0506 Office Hours 10:00 AM to 7:00 PM CST
(205)464-0230 fax 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
Check out our web site: http://iquest.com/~leahwes/
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Vol One 1996 Iss #7
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IN THIS ISSUE... Happy New Year... To you and yours...
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01) Working out the Bugs ;-)
02) Intro - ChildSearch
03) Re: Eavesdropping Question
04) Intro - Malaysia
05) Re: Eavesdropping Question
06) Fine TEMPEST Web Site
07) Useful Resource
08) Intro
09) Request for Contacts
10) Re: Bug a Caddy
11) Learned Something Already!
12) Need Help
13) Intro/Surveillance Question
14) Intro
15) Surveillance Article
16) Telepohne Logging Software
17) Intro
18) Telephone Harrassment Help
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DON'T BE A LURKER.... GET INVOLVED... YOU ARE A MEMBER... MAKE THE MOST OF IT
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1)From: spyking@thecodex.com
Subject: Working out the bugs ;-)
This is our seventh issue and I hope the bugs (no pun intended) are
worked out. In one short week we've grown to over 900 + subscribers
worldwide... There is a LOT of talent on this list... I hope ALL will
participate and contribute... I'd like to know how you like the
format? OK? Or is there a better way? Let me know...
If anyone is missing issues let me know and I'll send (limited time offer).
If anyone is receiving double posts let me know... If for some reason you STOP recieving list let me know...
So far we've sent list daily. Frequency will depend on YOU... No posts... No responses... No list...
I'll try to keep each issue under 25k daily. I know some folks have trouble with jammed mailboxes...
Please remember to send posts to spyking@con2.com not me directly.
I hope everyone will send an intro (most haven't) and we'll post it
Let the other members know your area of expertise...
aside from trading info this is a great network tool... If you've got
a unique product, talent or service we'd like to know... we all need help in
different areas from time to time... make the most of it...
I will moderate at a MINIMUM... but I will do my best to keep the list
focused on our common interests.
If you haven't visited the Codex Web Site yet you'll find it at:
http://www.thecodex.com I've bookmarked a ton of sites on various topics
pertaining to this business and I'm especially proud of the search page.
I think you'll like it... That's my plug... I won't make one again...
Happy New Year. I wish all the best to you and yours... I'm headed for
Times Square and a few parties... Let me know if you see me on TV...
I'll be the one disguised as a pedestrian ;-)
SpyKing
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2)From: Brandon
Subject: Intro
Organization: Child Search
Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Brandon and I work with
Child Search/National Missing Children Center
(see http://www.childsearch.org).
We are a volunteer based effort to locate and recover missing children
throughout the world (primarily in the USA). I am offering this response
in hopes of encouraging volunteers from among the ranks of those of you
that are adept at locating missing persons. If any of you have time,
materials or equipment that can be of assistance to a child in need,
we would love to hear from you at:
dr.b@childsearch.org
281-288-7800
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3)From JEasom1046@aol.com Mon Dec 30 22:02:40 1996
Re: Eavesdropping Question
TO: Carlos Bermudez
Regarding your question, I know of no Law Enforcement agency that would /
will employ a Title 3 wiretap on a juvenile's telephone on the mere suspicion
of a parent alone simply over the smoking of marijuana.
Most likely the truth would be that the parents consulted with the police,
who in turn directed them to Radio Shack and told them what equipment to
purchase to install on a phoneline owned by them. As for the length of time
the device was on the phone, I know from experience that Title 3 is for a
specific amount of time, which can be extended if enough evidence is gathered
to substantiate the need for more information. In all likelyhood the parents
blamed it on the police in order to save face with their child.
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4)From: "Tawfek"
Subject: Surveillance List...
My name is Tawfek Mokhtar.
I am currently employed by a telecommunication company in the R&D department.
I graduated from Polytechnic University in Brooklyn, N.Y. in E.E., Comp. E.
Hopefully the joining the list will enable me to keep up with the current
state of the art which so rapidly expanding. Thanks.
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5)From: Jean-Pierre Forest
Subject: Re: Eavesdropping Question
Every Country or State may have their own law regarding the Interception
of Telecommunications, In Canada an authorization to intercept is
normally provided for a period of 60 days after which another
application has to be made to the courts again to justify the second
authorization. Six months seems to be a long time to have a place under
electronic surveillance for what appears to be a relatively minor
offence. I doubt that the Police would waste valuable time and
expertise on a question if a minor is smoking pot. There is however
nothing wrong into tapping your own telephone, which the parents could
have done themselves, tell all their kids that the phones may be
monitored to which they probably would forget in a week and still talk
candidly on the phone.
J.P.
+++Moderators Note+++
Checkout: http://www.epic.org/privacy/wiretap/wiretap_stats.html
They give a breakdown of Title III Eavesdropping Jobs in the U.S.
from 1968 thru 1995 both Federal and State... Epic states 19,000!
Another interesting fact is that since 1968 only 27 of 19,000 warrant
requests were refused... NONE have been refused since 1988 according to EPIC
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6)From: Jim Ray
Subject: Fine TEMPEST website
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http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/tempest.html
Has excellent information on tempest attacks. The same guy who put this
together also authored a fabulous PGPfront for Windows with anonymous
remailer support called Private Idaho. It can also be found on his site.
JMR
Regards, Jim Ray
DNRC Minister of Encryption Advocacy
"In local news, the city of Miami discovered that it was $68
million short and was forced to seriously consider cutting back
such municipal operations as the City Hall Drive-Thru Bribe
Window." -- Dave Barry, 12/29/96
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+++Moderators Note+++
I absolutely agree Jim. EVERYONE should checkout Joel's Site...
It's a wealth of information and resources... We DID mention this
before in a previous issue... but the site is worth mentioning twice...
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7)From: admin@asianenergy.com.au
Subject: Useful Resource
Saw this resource list on the net. Thought everyone would be interested.
"Security On Line (SOL)
http://www.u-net.com/mbp/sol/
New Products
Company A-Z Listing
CCTV Listing
Full Product Guide
Companies seeking Agent / Distributor
Associations
Exhibitions and Events
SOL is an Internet site that has been developed to meet the specific needs
of the security industry. Anyone who is anyone in the trade should
seriously consider being listed here.
SOL is big! with over 450 premier companies already listed providing
anything from contact details to full on line catalogues of information.
The power of SOL is its ability to provide company and product information
that you require, quickly and efficiently, saving hours of phone calls and
product sourcing.
SOL could be compared to a virtual exhibition, with companies promoting
there goods and services nationally and globally. Each company with there
own stand in the form of a unique web page.
For those companies that would prefer not to use on line time, a CD (PC
BASED) version of the site will be available latter this year.
Please take a look at SOL and email me with your comments.
Chris Lloyd (Marketing Manager)
e-mail mbpchris@aol.com"
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8)From: John Sims
Subject: Intro
C3i, Inc.
Electronic Security Command
Communications, Command, Control, and Intelligence Specialists
http://www.netside.net/~c3i
c3i@netside.net
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9)From: ILQQK4DOE@aol.com
Subject: Re: Request for Contacts?
>PI CONSULT
>I periodically get requests fro BI in your country send me info via
>ILQQK4DOE@aol.com
+++Moderator's Note+++
I THINK he means "for PI"... ;-)
PI members of the list... Please send him your info directly...
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10)From: ILQQK4DOE@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bug a caddy
Take a closer look at the lack of a catalytic converter . If you are not
after the local. The older models supply enough room to hide Pee Wee
Herman. I have 30 different way but think about it the old fashioned way
still works the best, Tail-em close
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11)From: ILQQK4DOE@aol.com
Subject: Re: ?
Thanks! No really thanks for the info. Hell Ive been here two days and
learned 2 things. It usually costs me 200.00 for that kind of odds.
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12)From: MikeRowley@aol.com
Subject: Re: Need Help
I am interested in securing my back yard from intrution so that my children
can play there. I want to hook security cameras to show on all tv's in the
house on pip as well as a monitor in my office or on my computers desktop.
I want to be able to scan the backyard at random.
I need methods to secure my office files from others as they contain
confidential stuff.
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13)From: John.Martin@ccmail.fingerhut.com
Subject: Intro/Surveillance Question
Hello, My name is John, better known as JJM. I'm a network analyst for a
prestige firm in the northwestern part of the USA. I'm interested in the
encryption/decryption of data on the network and legal surveillance mechanisms.
I found this site to be very informative since joining. I have been a member
since it's inception. My initial questions would be what is the laws requiring
tapping someone's phone? What would be required to tap a phone? What equipment
is available tap a phone? What data encryption mechanisms are available today
besides the FIREWALL solution?
Thanks,
JJM
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14)From: diablo
Subject: Intro
Hey everybody, how's it going? My name's Jeff. And I, unlike the
majority of you, am not a professional in this field, or in fact in any
field. I'm a student with a keen intrest in all aspects of intelligence
gathering and analysis. I've done 5000 pgs.+ of reading on the
intelligence process in general (not much, but decently impressive for a
student, no?). Anyway, I joined the list to learn more about the
profession(s) and possibly establish contacts to help me out later in
life.
Thank you
Jeff Winston
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15)From: spyking@thecodex.com
Subject: Interesting article
Wall St Journal 12/30/96 Obscure Treasury Unit Helps DEA Uncover Scheme
From the beginning, it was The Case That Didn't Add Up. It started with a
woman in St. Louis who wanted to pay Federal Express $38 to ship a package
supposedly containing a $2 paperback book to Los Angeles. The company called
the local Drug Enforcement Administration office.
Ralph Moore, a DEA agent, got a search warrant, opened the package and found
$10,000 in cash.
He checked his records: The woman was on welfare. He searched her house and
found a new car, $25,000 stuffed into a coat pocket and papers showing the
woman owned seven buildings.
"Follow the money" is supposedly an axiom for federal investigators, but in
November 1994 Mr. Moore was discovering how tough that is to do in drug cases
where suspects are rich and financially savvy. So who was Mr. Moore going to
call? He noticed a DEA memo about an obscure unit of the Treasury Department,
the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network.
The St. Louis case became a prime example of how Fincen, the nation's
smallest intelligence agency, brings the latest in high-tech firepower to
the never-ending battle against money-laundering schemes. The agency,
created in April 1990, uses a staff of 200 analysts and agents to offer state-
of-the-art computer tracking and analysis to state and federal agents and
prosecutors, giving them more time to work the cases from the street.
The DEA's Mr. Moore desperately needed the help. The woman who had mailed
the package had a boyfriend who made $20,000 a year working for an electric
company. The agent found he had more than 30 different accounts in one bank.
Bank records showed hundreds of thousands of dollars flowing through them
in patterns that never repeated themselves.
Enter James Petrakis, a graying, 47-year-old Fincen investigator, who flew
out from Washington. Mr. Petrakis designed a computer program for the case
that could follow the money as it flowed through companies -- some phony,
some real -- and through people who transferred ownership of some 30 pieces
of local real estate that seemed to be involved.
There were gaps in the digital portrait that emerged, but the general
outlines were stunning: Mr. Moore had uncovered a family-run drug-
distribution business that appeared to have stashed between $5 million and
$7 million in various investments and purchases in St. Louis banks.
Because the business also trafficked in guns, the Treasury Department's
Bureau of Alcohol, Tax and Firearms was working on the case, too. Robert
Nosbisch, the top bureau agent, agreed that tracking the money was going to
be key. "The objective in a case like this is to get anyone who has a
significant role into jail and take all of their assets," he says.
Mr. Moore's chief suspect, a short, hot-tempered man named William Y.
Jones, "was too good," he recalls. Mr. Jones had a way of anticipating the
federal agent's moves. "It was almost like a chess game. As I would move a
piece, he would move a piece," the agent adds.
There were other odd things. Although Mr. Jones was 43 (in 1995), his
credit records and other personal history only went back to 1985. Before that,
he had no records. Mr. Jones's biggest drug moves usually happened on
government holidays, when the DEA and ATF staffs were slim. Mr. Moore had a
theory: Mr. Jones was probably a federal informant, a man who had worked with
federal agents in drug cases before.
"We needed to become unorthodox," Mr. Moore recalls. When wiretaps led them
to a $1 million stash of Mr. Jones's cocaine in a car, they seized the drugs
and the car, too. Later they heard Mr. Jones say on his tapped cellular phone
that federal agents didn't steal cars. One of his drug partners, Mr. Jones
concluded, must have double-crossed him.
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16)From: Fireman
Subject: phones
Can you tell me if there is any software on the market that would allow
me to use my modem on the house line to track/log outgoing calls?
Thanx
Mike
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17)From: caldwell
Subject: Intro
ISC
The Caldwell Group
I have been an investigator for almost twenty years now. My speciality
is corporate investigations (embezzlement, proprietary info, espionage,
etc.). As such, I am frequently placed in the position of a security
consultant. I recognize that there are certain investigators out there
who specialize in electronic surveillance/counter-surveillance
techniques and often bring them in as consultants as well. I do not try
to be "all things" to all people, feeling that I can best help my client
sometimes, by merely knowing which expert to call.
That's why I joined here. I look forward to working with some of you in
the future on questions I can't answer.
G Caldwell
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18)From: Owen Morgan
Subject: Telephone Harrassment Help
Hello, I am in need of some assistance. I have been receving prank phone
calls. They call and then hang up. I have used the number at the beginning
of the phone book that will trace the phone call, but you can't findout who
is doing it. I know after 3 times the police are supposed to be alerted,
but I live in a very small county and they didn't do anything about it
until we called and asked, then strangely enough they seemed to stop. I
caught them once when I put them on speaker phone and they didn't catch on,
but didn't recognize them.
Is there any thing I can do to findout who they are so I can turn them in
to the police? It is very annoying right now we get the calls a little,
but have cooled down from 3-4 calls an evening. I have also gotten caller
ID, however this can be curcumvented very little effort. Please can anyone
help?
Owen Morgan
ddraig@kuntrynet.com
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