Re: [TSCM-L] {5693} OnStar Tracking Continues Even After Subscriptioin Cancellation (your every move) from bernieS on 2011-10-03 (file.mbox)

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Technology Beck's OnStar Concerns Were Right - Tracking Continues Even After
Cancellation

Two years ago, Media Matters mocked Glenn Beck for his "conspiracy theory"
that OnStar had too much power with its ability to track cars, listen to
conversations and ultimately turn the car off. Well, it looks like his
concerns were accurate, as GM has just made a major announcement about the
GPS system.

Here's the video from Media Matters in 2009:

Wired <http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/09/onstar-tracks-you/> now
reports that even if you cancel your OnStar service, you are still being
tracked:

OnStar began e-mailing customers Monday about its update to the privacy
policy, which grants OnStar the right to sell that GPS-derived data in an
anonymized format.

Adam Denison, a spokesman for the General Motors subsidiary, said OnStar
does not currently sell customer data, but it reserves that right. He said
both the new and old privacy policies allow OnStar to chronicle a vehicle's
every movement and its speed, though it's not clear where that's stated in
the old policy.

"What's changed [is that if] you want to cancel your OnStar service, we are
going to maintain a two-way connection to your vehicle unless the customer
says otherwise," Denison said in a telephone interview.

The connection will continue, he said, to make it "easier to re-enroll" in
the program, which charges plans from $19 to $29 monthly for help with
navigation and emergencies.

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Continuing to collect information, Denison said, makes it easier OnStar to
provide information for organizations that request it:

"We hear from organizations periodically requesting our information," he
said.

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He said an example of how the data might be used would be for the Michigan
Department of Transportation "to get a feel for traffic usage on a specific
section of freeway." The policy also allows the data to be used for
marketing purposes by OnStar and vehicle manufacturers.

Collecting location and speed data via GPS might also create a treasure
trove of data that could be used in criminal and civil cases. One could also
imagine an eager police chief acquiring the data to issue speeding tickets
en masse.

Wired notes that blogger and forensic scientist Jonathan Zdziarski
<http://www.zdziarski.com/blog/> , who wrote about OnStar "spying on
customers" GPS location for profit" said he was canceling his service and
making sure he was fully disconnected. He wrote, "When will our congress
pass legislation that stops the American people's privacy from being raped
by large data warehousing interests? Companies like OnStar, Google, Apple,
and the other large abusive data warehousing companies desperately need to
be investigated."

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target="_blank">Wired</a> now reports that even if you cancel your OnStar
service, you are still being tracked:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Denison, a spokesman for the General Motors subsidiary, said OnStar does no=
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currently sell customer data, but it reserves that right. He said both the =
new
and old privacy policies allow OnStar to chronicle a vehicle’s every =
movement
and its speed, though it’s not clear where that’s stated in the=
old policy.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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program, which charges plans from $19 to $29 monthly for help with navigati=
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said, makes it easier OnStar to provide information for organizations that
request it:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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hear from organizations periodically requesting our information,” he =
said.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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>He said
an example of how the data might be used would be for the Michigan Departme=
nt
of Transportation “to get a feel for traffic usage on a specific sect=
ion of
freeway.” The policy also allows the data to be used for marketing pu=
rposes by
OnStar and vehicle manufacturers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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k
face=Arial><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'=
>Collecting
location and speed data via GPS might also create a treasure trove of data =
that
could be used in criminal and civil cases. One could also imagine an eager
police chief acquiring the data to issue speeding tickets <em><i><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>en masse</span></font></i></=
em>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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k
face=Arial><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'=
>Wired
notes that blogger and forensic scientist <a
href="http://www.zdziarski.com/blog/" target="_blank"
title="Jonathan Zdziarski's Domain">Jonathan Zdziarski</a>, who wrote abo=
ut
OnStar “spying on customers” GPS location for profit”&nbs=
p;said he was
canceling his service and making sure he was fully disconnected. He wrote,
“When will our congress pass legislation that stops the American peop=
le’s
privacy from being raped by large data warehousing interests? Companies lik=
e
OnStar, Google, Apple, and the other large abusive data warehousing compani=
es
desperately need to be investigated.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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