The 911 Terrorists did there job magnificently they induced =
an
over-abundance of terror in the US populace. Citizens have their cons=
titutional
rights waived all in the name of protecting society. The brown skinned foll=
owers
of Islam are now the new negro's of the early 1900's deep south so that the=
y
and anyone associating with them are the enemy. More lives have been =
lost
in the name of religion than any political war, this is unfortunate but sad=
ly
true. All warriors have their form of GOD on their side. We will never know=
if
Gitmo will be a black stain on the American conscience or the best thing si=
nce
sliced bread. Always remember once a right has been removed (ahem tem=
porarily)
it will NEVER be returned.
I've served with the civil service and their priority was em=
pire
building and not necessarily getting the job done even if it meant spending
more time packing things up and locking them up and then the converse rathe=
r
than taking breaks at the prescribed time.
From: tscm-..._at_googlegroups.com
[mailto:tscm-..._at_googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James M. Atkinson
Sent: March-14-10 6:55 PM
To: tscm-..._at_googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] {4879} Remington Shotguns - Federal Business
Opportunities: Opportunities
Ah, no...
The problem is not so much that which is listed is the various manuals,
regulations, and texts that you mention, but with the interpretations they
somehow demonstrate a great and grand government conspiracy.
There is sufficient probelms with government corruption that can be s=
hown
in explicit examples, documentation, and evidence without trying to take
unrelated references and trying to weave it into a grand conspiracy.
For example, some people talk breathlessly about Area 51, HAARP, black FEMA
helicopters and American concentrations camps may provide loads of airtime =
to
well known cranks and crack pots, but when some actually starts digging int=
o
the "proof" provided the whole legend starts falling apart.
Yes, FEMA does have helicopters (ridden in them), huge underground command =
and
control facilities (been in many of them), and sure enough they do have hug=
e
expansive locations designations as resettlement areas (where do you think =
they
parked the mobile homes after Katrina?), they even have huge... and I mean =
HUGE
networks of cave and tunnels (that I have been in) where they warehouse pre=
tty
much anything that could be needed in a massive scale disaster. They even h=
ave
(gasp) rooms full of pornographic magazines, adult videos, books, posters,
toys, intimate supplies, and so on to ensure that people have suitable
stimulation after a disaster in order to reproduce (well, ok they also have=
the
same stuff down in the missile silos for other reasons... but either way it
helps to break up the boredom from doomsday).
There are in fact huge numbers of highways they can be used for evacuations=
,
large stocks of supplies pre-positioned, warehouses full of both food (eate=
n
some of it) and body bags (zipped corpses up in them), and semi trucks (dri=
ven
some) that sit 24 hours a day with hot engines (burned hand on same) ready =
to
roll out in a convoy in mere minutes.
There is also some fairly impressive corruption (seen it) that exists when
there is a huge budget (show me the money) and resources ($8.75 per sheet
engraved letter head), and very often the least trained (3 day course),
politically connected (show me the money) lackey leading the organization
(i.e.: how many horse shows do you need to judge to be able to mobilize the
evacuation of a major city that is being destroyed).
Corruptions tends to start with one bad person, engaging is one bad act and
getting others to join in. Then they get the people who did bad things to c=
over
for them and protect the organization. This leads to the proverbial single =
bad
apple making the whole bushel rot where the corruption started with one per=
son,
and pretty the corruption becomes widespread and part of the organizational
behavior.
Pay less attention to the black helicopters, and more attention to the blac=
k
budgets. Concern yourself less with martial law, and more with civil
procedure. If someone is concerned about... and I mean really concern=
ed
about their freedom and how justice can be so perverted, then register your
concern when you vote... vigorously question your political leaders, and
aggressively hold them responsible for both their promises and their action=
s.
But please, please, please... do not imagine a conspiracy based imagined
"federalization powers", but rather pay closer attention to slow
eroding of civil rights over many years, of public servants breaking the la=
ws
and not being held accountable, and of the judiciary looking the othe=
r
way when it is politically expedient for them to do so.
Look towards how the NYPD defecated all over the civil rights laws for week=
s
before and after the RNC, and how the prosecutors office in NYC corrupted
anything resembling a legal system (and who have never been held accountabl=
e)
in the name of good politics. Thousands, and thousands of people were arres=
ted
(illegally), never given a trial, never given a hearing, never appeared bef=
ore
a court, never allowed to post bail, and never had any recourse merely beca=
use
they were coming out of a coffee shop just as police were using sections of
fencing to scoop up people illegally. Some of these people had the living h=
ell
beat out of them (some on the Navy brig ships), and yet nobody was actually
held responsible.
It is a fallacy to think that we live in a free country... True, we do get =
to
vote, and true we do get certain freedoms, but many of the things that are
"guaranteed" by law are not actually provided, or are so er=
oded
that they are worthless. The next time you try to fly somewhere, refuse to =
be
searched and see what happens, or try to get a cell phone or utilitie=
s
set up without coughing up a social security number, or show up near a fede=
ral
building, and start taking photographs and watch how fast you rights start =
to
disappear. For that matter, watch what happened when you go to the airport =
and
start taking pictures of the security checkpoints, or pictures of bridges i=
n
NYC, and so on.
I heard a report on public radio last week where they were able to dig up
deeply hidden records form the FBI that show that the bureau performed over=
8
million wiretaps in 2009 with one carrier alone, but actually had les=
s
then 2000 actual court orders. This means that for every legal wiretap ther=
e
was 4000 illegal intercepts or wiretaps by the FBI.
There is a very definite line between what is a real conspiracy, and that w=
hich
is a fantasy conspiracy... take care not to confuse the two.
There is plenty of illegal bugging, wiretapping, and breaking the law by
federal law enforcement people, but beware of anything other then hard numb=
ers
and specific actions that prove out specific illegal activities.
Worry less about macro level corruption, and more about micro level corrupt=
ion.
It always starts with a single bad apple, and grows to the bushel, and then=
to
the orchard... and rarely the other way around.
Also, please do not troll the list... but along those same lines, all are
welcome to speak on the list, and all opinions and voices are genuinely val=
ued.
Just remember that the topic of the list is TSCM, and issues related to TSC=
M.
-jma
John wrote:
You talk about "federalized" yet two o=
f
the three cites are state government related and don't pertain to the feder=
al
government.
Furthermore, a review of these provide for arrest power to those who guard
water supplied, arrest power for those who guard national cemeteries, and
arrest power to certified law enforcement officers. I don't find any =
of
these to be very conspiratorial nor to they provide any evidence whatsoever=
of
your theory of a metamorphosis of all federal employees into federal agents=
.
There are enough real "bogeymen" lurking around the corner. =
No
need for me to invent more.
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6=
:26 PM,
Its from Onion <areda..._at_msn.com=
>
wrote:
This is after about 10 minutes. I=
got
tired of looking. You need to read the whole post.
&nb=
sp; Regardless
of where we might have stood on the issue of federalization, we all agreed =
that
screening would not improve if the job status of screeners were not
improved-through better pay, better benefits, and real job protections.
Ultimately, there is no other way to recruit the best employees and to keep
them on the job.
State of CA - http://www.bsis.ca.gov/=
forms_pubs/poa.pdf
&nb=
sp; STATE
OF CALIFORNIA - BUREAU OF SECURITY AND INVESTIGATIVE SERVICES POWER T=
O
ARREST TRAINING MANUAL
Water master's power of arrest (WA) - <=
a
href="http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=90.03.090" target==
"_blank"
title="http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=90.03.090">http://a=
pps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=90.03.090
&nb=
sp; The
water master shall have the power, within his or her district, to arrest an=
y
person in the act of violating any of the provisions of this chapter and to
deliver such person promptly into the custody of the sheriff or other compe=
tent
officer within the county and immediately upon such delivery the water mast=
er
making the arrest shall, in writing and upon oath, make complaint before th=
e
proper district judge against the person so arrested.
Superintendents of national
cemeteries - http://e=
cfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div8&view=te=
xt&node=32:3.1.1.4.18.0.11.9&idno=32
&nb=
sp; Are
authorized to arrest any person who willfully destroys, cuts, breaks, injur=
es,
or removes any tree, shrub, or plant within the limits of
&nb=
sp; the cemetery.
&nb=
sp; A
certified reserve law enforcement officer has the same power of arrest gran=
ted
to a law enforcement officer pursuant to SDCL...
CONSTITU=
TION
OF THE STATE OF MONTANA - http:/=
/data.opi.state.mt.us/bills/mca/46/23/46-23-1012.htm
&nb=
sp;
[snip]
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