Re: [TSCM-L] {5125} Re: {5085} the best way to find digital recorders

From: James M. Atkinson <jm..._at_tscm.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 19:03:24 -0400
The OSCOR does not have this capability.

You can take the rod antenna that I describe in my previous posts and mix it with a 100 MHz oscillator, and then tune the OSCOR to the signal.

If you have one of the OSCOR that still has the loop antenna input you can also inject the signal into the loop antenna input with mixed results. Mixing it to a higher frequency will give better results then a direct injection.

-jma



David Rom wrote:
hi 

which part of the OSCOR 5000 full kit can work for this solution?


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On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 7:01 PM, James M. Atkinson <jm..._at_tscm.com> wrote:
The loop antenna that you describe will help a little, but as the frequencies get lower and lower the geometry of the antenna starts getting cumbersome, things start getting larger, and is you use a sideband antenna is is very easy to saturate the entire band that you are trying to filter, the specific frequency you are seeking is not finely dialed in, and it can be tricky to use for this.

Yes, the loop and bandpass filter will work, and I have used them in the past like this. But I got vastly better results when I wound a single bar antenna of a very specific frequency, and tunes it so that essentially it was a huge filter itself. Then I ran it into a small concentrator ring inside the frequency specific antenna, and then  outside of the antenna passed the signal into a BPF attached to a ultra-low noise pre-amplifier.

cptkaos wrote:
How effective would a bandpass filter (say 32.0 KHz - 32.9 KHz) be
when used with a loop antenna with the range of 20 Hz to 50 KHz?

On Oct 18, 2:51 pm, "James M. Atkinson" <..._at_tscm.com> wrote:
  
The optimal electronic way is to use a magnetic antenna, in the form of
a small loop of ferrite core with a very sharp bandpass filter at 32.768
kHz. A good rule is that if you can "hear" the timing crystal on a
digital from 2 feet away you should be able to "hear" any magnetic
radiation coming off a digital recorder.

A very sophisticated digital recorder that presents miniscule amounts of
RF energy will often provide a considerable magnetic signal if you know
what to watch for.

The spy is going to deal with a very large and very heavy enclosure to
keep this leakage down, but since most spies obsess on keeping their
devices small they compromise the detection of magnetic signals.

I have some very nice stick antenna's that I have made that are resonant
right at 32.768 kHz, and they are easy enough to build and impedance
match to a 50 ohm filter, and then to a 50 ohm pre-amp, but get the
preamp well away from the antenna and use double shielded cables for
everything.  It does involve thousands of loops of wire, some careful
use of capacitors, a ferrite loop, and a piston cap to settle it right
on frequency.

-jma





David Rom wrote:
    
Hi TSCM experts
      
what is the best way to fins digital recorders in while we sweep a room?
      
David Rom
      
GD Intelligence Security LTD.
      
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