RE: [TSCM-L] {2931} Re: phones in the fridge from Perry Myers on 2008-09-27 (file.mbox)

From: Perry Myers <pe..._at_detectiveservices.com>
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Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] {2875} Re: phones in the fridge
From: "Perry Myers, CFE" <pe..._at_detectiveservices.com>
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Thanks Onion! The transcript was shown to my contact by an adversarial
person in the matter of a divorce. The conversation was with my contact an=
d
his son. His son would not willingly participate with the adversary. But
the son=B9s wife who he was living with at that time did have access to her
husband=B9s cell phone while he slept and showered. So if 3 way calling wa=
s
implemented while he was sleeping or showering, that would be a possibility=
.

Thanks again!

On 9/5/08 4:54 AM, "Its from Onion" <areda..._at_msn.com> wrote:

> Shown by who? =20
> =20
> The conversation with the other person could have been recorded by the 'o=
ther'
> person. The suspected perps could have set up 3-way calling or such as t=
hey
> had access to phone.
> =20
> The fact that your client does not know the security of the other side of=
his
> conversation, all is possible.
> =20
> Cloning? Mmmm.. don=B9t think. You would have to look at what is at sta=
ke.
> (i.e. divorce or national security)
> =20
> Start simple. Plenty of time to jump to conclusions later.
> =20
> Onion
> "surfing the net with a Jet Ski"
> =20
>> =20
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> =20
>> From: Perry Myers, CFE <mailto:pe..._at_detectiveservices.com>
>> =20
>> To: TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com
>> =20
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 2:01 PM
>> =20
>> Subject: [TSCM-L] {2874} Re: phones in the fridge
>> =20
>>=20
>> I got a call today from a respected (so far) business person who said h=
e was
>> shown transcripts of conversations he had on his cell phone with anothe=
r
>> person. I won=B9t share the details of the reason for the alleged cell=
phone
>> intercept but it was done according to my contact. Both sides of the
>> conversation were recorded so this was not a simple hidden recorder in =
the
>> car. My question is, any ideas on how we can prove this happened? If =
this
>> was a clone, is there a place in the Cell Provider=B9s records that may
>> indicate a duplicate Cell phone ID number was linking to their system a=
t the
>> same time? Any little evidence may help.
>>=20
>> The other person=B9s cell phone that was involved in this recorded
>> conversation was available to the suspected perpetrators so that they co=
uld
>> have done anything they wanted to that phone. But my contact always had=
 his
>> phone in his possession.
>>=20
>> Any advice of what to do to prove this through subpoena is appreciated.
>>=20
>>=20
>> Perry Myers, CFE
>> President
>> MSI Detective Services
>> 2406 W Fullerton Ave
>> Chicago, IL 60647
>> pe..._at_detectiveservices.com
>> WWW.DETECTIVESERVICES.COM
>> (773) 404-7400 x 200
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> >>=20
>>=20

Perry Myers, CFE
President
U-Spy Enterprises, Inc.
2406 W Fullerton Ave
Chicago, IL 60647
pmy..._at_uspystore.com
WWW.USPYSTORE.COM
(773) 529-2779

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hanks Onion!  The transcript was shown to my contact by an adversarial=
person in the matter of a divorce.  The conversation was with my cont=
act and his son.  His son would not willingly participate with the adv=
ersary.  But the son’s wife who he was living with at that time =
did have access to her husband’s cell phone while he slept and shower=
ed.  So if 3 way calling was implemented while he was sleeping or show=
ering, that would be a possibility. 
 
Thanks again! 
 
 
On 9/5/08 4:54 AM, "Its from Onion" <ared..._at_msn.com> wrote=
: 
 
<BLOCKQUOTE>Shown by who?   
  
The conversation with the other person could have been recorded by the 'oth=
er' person.  The suspected perps could have set up 3-way calling or su=
ch as they had access to phone. 
  
The fact that your client does not know the security of the other si=
de of his conversation, all is possible. 
 
Cloning?  Mmmm.. don’t think.  You would have to look at wh=
at is at stake.  (i.e. divorce or national security) 
  
Start simple.  Plenty of time to jump to conclusions later. 
  
Onion 
"surfing the net with a Jet Ski" 
  
<BLOCKQUOTE> 
----- Original Message ----- 
  
From: Perry Myers, CFE <a href=3D"mailto:pe..._at_detectiveservices.com=
"><mailto:pe..._at_detectiveservices.com></a>   
  
To: TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com   
  
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 2:01  PM 
  
Subject: [TSCM-L] {2874} Re: phones in  the fridge 
  
 
I got a call today from a respected (so far) business  person who said=
he was shown transcripts of conversations he had on his cell  phone w=
ith another person.  I won’t share the details of the reason for=
 the alleged cell phone intercept but it was done according to my con=
tact.   Both sides of the conversation were recorded so this was =
not a simple  hidden recorder in the car.  My question is, any id=
eas on how we can  prove this happened?  If this was a clone, is =
there a place in the Cell  Provider’s records that may indicate =
a duplicate Cell phone ID number was  linking to their system at the s=
ame time?  Any little evidence may  help. 
 
The other person’s cell phone that was involved in this recorded &nbs=
p;conversation was available to the suspected perpetrators so that they cou=
ld  have done anything they wanted to that phone.  But my contact=
always had  his phone in his possession.   
 
Any advice of what to do to prove  this through subpoena is appreciate=
d.   
 
 
Perry Myers,  CFE 
President 
MSI Detective Services 
2406 W Fullerton Ave 
Chicago,  IL 60647 
pe..._at_detectiveservices.com 
WWW.DETECTIVESERVICES.COM 
(773)  404-7400 x 200   
 
 
 
 
 
</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> 
 
Perry Myers, CFE<B=
R>
President 
U-Spy Enterprises, Inc. 
2406 W Fullerton Ave 
Chicago, IL 60647 
pmy..._at_uspystore.com 
WWW.USPYSTORE.COM 
(773) 529-2779 
 
 
 

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