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Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] {3633} Re: P.U.N.K.D. Guide to Bugs (S)
From: Georg Curnutt <wilden..._at_gmail.com>
To: TSCM-L2006_at_googlegroups.com
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I am riding on my Pops stretched out socks here about TSCM. He was an
engineer for Ampex from its start until its end. I happened across a tiny
little sliver of a thing right outside SPAWAR here in San Diego. In the
middle of the sliver is a tiny lense. Upon close inspection it has a camera
and microphone array. It has a very short antenna so I presume it to be VHF=
,
or UHF. I have two Smart Phones, one an HTC Excalibur running Wndows 6.1 an=
d
a T-Mobile G1 (HTC). If I get this little gizmo next to my handset it does
disrupt the service; I can not call out or receive calls. I can get 3G and
Wifi. That is what the handset says.
Since I found the device I get a lot of interesting background noise. When =
I
talk on the phone sometimes I hear a voice say, "he said anarchy mark it". =
I
know when my Pops worked for the NSA they were very careful not to be
detected. Now days these scum seem to not give a bent turd whether they are
detected or not; very unbecoming of a spook! I am on a College Debate Team
and my duty is to run Anarchy. So all the flags I light up are in the name
of Education. Yet these bozos try to investigate me, and do, but my simple
array of technology picks them up as well. My Pops is turning in his grave!
One thing elementary that my Pops taught me is, where there is an antenna
and transmission so is there the same reception. Something like that. Like
he carried a modified ICOM 2 Meter and 10 Meter handheld and he would see a=
n
antenna and guess real close the length, and tune in and listen. He was the
best in the field in this, but I watched. If he really wanted to listen in
on somebody he would go to radio shack and buy the cheapest AM radio. He
would pop it open, do a little soldering and wire winding and boom, next
thing we knew we were listening to the neighbors on TV AND* * getting ghost
images of their living rooms on TV, via a $2.95 AM radio! My Pops was a HAM
from the 1920's. He was Navy, but with the Marine Raiders as a Radioman in
the Pacific, Guadalcanal and so on. He used radio to watch airplanes and
weather. He helped build the radio telescopes at Giant Rock/Goldstone; the
210' Dish and the Mars Dish. My Pops turned the later Airforce on to Radio
Telemetry at Edwards/Muroc in the 50's. My Pops was Robert M. Curnutt KB6HP=
G
(he let his earlier HAM expire). A lot of what you guys and gals do was
blazed by guys like my Pops. Keep it together man! Talk of, 'well, you know
we are all liars and sometimes need to spook the shit out of customers to
get paid' is pure shit! The customer is GOD. Never fuck over a customer. If
you ever fuck me, I will simply kill you. Peace. Georg Curnutt X-ARMY SOCOM
Ranger 3/75 (Underwater Intrusion Detection Project/ManTech) A little
respect for the profession please!
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Michael Dever <d..._at_bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> Hello Folks
> If I may jump into this discussion.... apart from the notification SOP an=
d
> forensics that people have talked about, I think what James (Greenwold) i=
s
> enquiring about is: what are the 'typical' sorts of devices one might
> encounter during a sweep.
> Obviously, this will depend a great deal on who your adversary is and wha=
t
> is the threat assessment (capability). We are not necessarily going to se=
e
> images or details about the types of 'sophisticated' devices used by
> intelligence agencies, but I would love to have a discussion about some o=
f
> the credible threats we need to be aware of, especially at the higher end=
of
> the spectrum. JMA has already published a great deal of generic informati=
on
> about frequencies and modulation etc. but it would be nice to better
> understand what credible threats are out there!
>
> Regards
> Mike
> Michael J. Dever CPP PSP
>
> *Dever Clark + Associates*
> GPO Box 1163
> Canberra ACT 2601
> Australia
>
> Voice: +612 6254 5337 || Mobile: +61419 252 839 || Email:
> d..._at_bigpond.net.au
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>
>
>
> On 27/04/2009, at 12:25 PM, TSCM/SO Group wrote:
>
> We document any discovered device or apparatus/technologies used to suppo=
rt
> a device. Video /Stills, whatever works best.
> Most of the time the find or remnants thereof will end up on a lawyer’s
> desk; we want to answer all questions they may have through documentation
> and imaging.
> Police reports are obtained at client request, if so, that will go with t=
he
> find. If the find is a gov device different OP takes effect.
> Corporate and domestic scenarios are handled differently. If domestic, It=
s
> up to the attorney.
> that retained us. Corporate; its up to the client
> hope this helps
>
>
>
> Mitch Davis
> TSCM/Special Operations Group
> 20 Music Square West,Suite 208
> Nashville,TN 37203 USA
> 615 251 0441
> Fax 615 523 0300
> mit..._at_tscmusa.com
> www.tscmusa.com
> *"**maintaining a higher degree of excellence"**
> *******************************
> Tools for investigators at www.covertworx.com
> ------------------------------
> *From:* TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com [mailto:TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *bts
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2009 10:45 AM
> *To:* TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [TSCM-L] {3622} Re: P.U.N.K.D. Guide to Bugs (S)
>
> Okay we have done this funny in a couple different ways. This one and
> about a year ago when I asked if any one had pictures of devices they had
> found.
>
> Now if it is at all possible, can someone actually answer the question?
>
> It is SOP to photograph devices as they are found. The government job I
> had 30 years ago has advanced devices that are now made obsolete by Matte=
l
> Toys. The few devices I have found over the years are recorders and cell
> phones that every one knows about. I have never seen anything that I wou=
ld
> consider a state of the art device.
>
> Can any one show me an example?
> --
> James Greenwold
> Bureau of Technical Services
> P.O. Box 191
> Chippewa Falls, WI54729
>
> 715-726-1400
> http://www.tacticalsurveillance.com
> t..._at_charterinternet.com
>
>
>
> On 4/25/09 11:19 PM, "James M. Atkinson" <jm..._at_tscm.com> wrote:
>
> (S) Highly classified guide to the identification of bugs.
>
> (S) Please do not distribute to non-cleared personnel
>
> -jma
>
>
>
>
>
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> No enterprise is more likely to succeed than one concealed from the
> enemy until it is ripe for execution. - Machiavelli, The Prince, 1521
>
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> >
>
>
--
Georg "WildEndeavor" Curnutt
P.O. Box 86053
San Diego, California 92138-6053
619 519-4494 Cell Phone (USA)
619 573-6329 Message Service
http://www.garageband.com/artist/WildEndeavor
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I am riding on=
my Pops stretched out socks here about TSCM. He was an engineer for Ampex =
from its start until its end. I happened across a tiny little sliver of a t=
hing right outside SPAWAR here in San Diego. In the middle of the sliver is=
a tiny lense. Upon close inspection it has a camera and microphone array. =
It has a very short antenna so I presume it to be VHF, or UHF. I have two S=
mart Phones, one an HTC Excalibur running Wndows 6.1 and a T-Mobile G1 (HTC=
). If I get this little gizmo next to my handset it does disrupt the servic=
e; I can not call out or receive calls. I can get 3G and Wifi. That is what=
the handset says.</span><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span=
" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Ap=
ple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-s=
ize: 18px;">Since I found the device I get a lot of interesting background =
noise. When I talk on the phone sometimes I hear a voice say, "he said=
anarchy mark it". I know when my Pops worked for the NSA they were ve=
ry careful not to be detected. Now days these scum seem to not give a bent =
turd whether they are detected or not; very unbecoming of a spook! I am on =
a College Debate Team and my duty is to run Anarchy. So all the flags I lig=
ht up are in the name of Education. Yet these bozos try to investigate me, =
and do, but my simple array of technology picks them up as well. My Pops is=
turning in his grave!</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style=
-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class=
="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="=
font-size: 18px;">One thing elementary that my Pops taught me is, where the=
re is an antenna and transmission so is there the same reception. Something=
like that. Like he carried a modified ICOM 2 Meter and 10 Meter handheld a=
nd he would see an antenna and guess real close the length, and tune in and=
listen. He was the best in the field in this, but I watched. If he really =
wanted to listen in on somebody he would go to radio shack and buy the chea=
pest AM radio. He would pop it open, do a little soldering and wire winding=
and boom, next thing we knew we were listening to the neighbors on TV <spa=
n class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;">AND</spa=
n><b> </b> getting ghost images of their living rooms on TV, via a $2.9=
5 AM radio! My Pops was a HAM from the 1920's. He was Navy, but with th=
e Marine Raiders as a Radioman in the Pacific, Guadalcanal and so on. He us=
ed radio to watch airplanes and weather. He helped build the radio telescop=
es at Giant Rock/Goldstone; the 210' Dish and the Mars Dish. My Pops tu=
rned the later Airforce on to Radio Telemetry at Edwards/Muroc in the 50=
9;s. My Pops was Robert M. Curnutt KB6HPG (he let his earlier HAM expire). =
A lot of what you guys and gals do was blazed by guys like my Pops. Keep it=
together man! Talk of, 'well, you know we are all liars and sometimes =
need to spook the shit out of customers to get paid' is pure shit! The =
customer is GOD. Never fuck over a customer. If you ever fuck me, I will si=
mply kill you. Peace. Georg Curnutt X-ARMY SOCOM Ranger 3/75 (Underwater In=
trusion Detection Project/ManTech) A little respect for the profession plea=
se!<br>
</span></font><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:40 P=
M, Michael Dever <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:d..._at_bigpond.net.a=
u">d..._at_bigpond.net.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_=
quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex;">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hello Folks<div><br></div><div>If I may=
jump into this discussion.... apart from the notification SOP and forensic=
s that people have talked about, I think what James (Greenwold) is enquirin=
g about is: what are the 'typical' sorts of devices one might encou=
nter during a sweep.</div>
<div>Obviously, this will depend a great deal on who your adversary is and =
what is the threat assessment (capability). We are not necessarily going to=
see images or details about the types of 'sophisticated' device=
s used by intelligence agencies, but I would love to have a discussion abou=
t some of the credible threats we need to be aware of, especially at the hi=
gher end of the spectrum. JMA has already published a great deal of generic=
information about frequencies and modulation etc. but it would be nice to =
better understand what credible threats are out there!</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>Mike<br><div> <span style="border-c=
ollapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;font-s=
tyle:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;li=
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an></b></span></font></div>
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/span></div></span></div></span><br> </div><br><div><div>On 27/04/2009, at =
12:25 PM, TSCM/SO Group wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color=
:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-varia=
nt:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-=
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ottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font =
size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font=
-family:Arial;color:navy">We document any discovered device or apparatus/te=
chnologies used to support a device.<span> </span><span>Video /Stills, wh=
atever works best.</span></span></font></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom=
:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size=
="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:Arial;color:navy">Most of the time the find or remnants thereof will en=
d up on a lawyer’s desk; we want to answer all questions they may have th=
rough documentation and imaging.</span></font></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom=
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="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:Arial;color:navy">Police reports are obtained at client request, if so,=
that will go with the find. If the find is a<span> </span><span>gov</spa=
n><span> </span>device different OP takes effect.</span></font></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom=
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="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:Arial;color:navy">Corporate and domestic scenarios are handled differen=
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attorney.</span></font></div>
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t-family:Arial;color:navy">that</span></font></span><font size="2" color=
="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;co=
lor:navy"><span> </span>retained us. Corporate; its up to the client</spa=
n></font></div>
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:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size=
="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:Arial;color:navy">hope this helps</span></font></div>
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:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size=
="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:Arial;color:navy"> </span></font></div>
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:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size=
="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:Arial;color:navy"> </span></font></div>
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:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size=
="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:Arial;color:navy"> </span></font></div>
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ottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font =
size="3" color="navy" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:12pt;fon=
t-family:Tahoma;color:navy">Mitch Davis<br>
TSCM/Special Operations Group<br>20 Music Square West,Suite 208<br>Nashvill=
e,TN<span> </span>37203<span> </span>USA<br>615 251 0441<br>Fax 615 523=
0300<br><a href="mailto:mit..._at_tscmusa.com" style="color:blue;text-dec=
oration:underline" target="_blank">mit..._at_tscmusa.com</a><br>
<a href="
http://www.tscmusa.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:unde=
rline" target="_blank">www.tscmusa.com</a></span></font><font color="na=
vy"><span style="color:navy"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top=
:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt=
;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
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:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy;font-style:italic">"</span></font>=
</i><i><font size="1" color="navy" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-=
size:7.5pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy;font-style:italic">maintaining a h=
igher degree of excellence"</span></font></i><i><font size="2" color=
="navy" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;=
color:navy;font-style:italic"><br>
</span></font></i><font color="navy" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-=
family:Tahoma;color:navy">******************************<br>Tools for inves=
tigators at<span> </span></span></font><font color="navy"><span style=
="color:navy"><a href="
http://www.covertworx.com/" style="color:blue;=
text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><font face="Tahoma"><span st=
yle="font-family:Tahoma">www.covertworx.com</span></font></a></span></fon=
t><font color="navy" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;co=
lor:navy"></span></font></div>
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margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman=
"><span style="font-size:12pt"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="cen=
ter">
</span></font></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-le=
ft:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Rom=
an'"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10pt;=
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2=
" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma"><span>=
</span><a href="mailto:TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com" style="color:blue;=
text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com</a><=
span> </span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com" style=
="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">TSCM-..._at_google=
groups.com</a>]<span> </span><b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behal=
f Of<span> </span></span></b>bts<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b><span> </span>Sunday,=
April 26, 2009 10:45 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span><=
/b><span> </span><a href="mailto:TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com" style="co=
lor:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">TSCM-..._at_googlegroups=
.com</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b><span> </span>[TSC=
M-L] {3622} Re: P.U.N.K.D. Guide to Bugs (S)</span></font></div></div><div =
style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.00=
01pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
<font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">=
</span></font></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin=
-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman'">
<font size="1" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Ar=
ial">Okay we have done this funny in a couple different ways. This one a=
nd about a year ago when I asked if any one had pictures of devices they ha=
d found.<br>
<br>Now if it is at all possible, can someone actually answer the question?=
<br><br>It is SOP to photograph devices as they are found. The governmen=
t job I had 30 years ago has advanced devices that are now made obsolete by=
Mattel Toys. The few devices I have found over the years are recorders =
and cell phones that every one knows about. I have never seen anything t=
hat I would consider a state of the art device.<br>
<br>Can any one show me an example?<br>--<span> </span><br>James Greenwol=
d<br>Bureau of Technical Services<br>P.O. Box<span> </span>191<br>Chippew=
a<span> </span>Falls, WI54729<br><br>715-726-1400<br><a href="
http://ww=
w.tacticalsurveillance.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" =
target="_blank">
http://www.tacticalsurveillance.com</a><br>
<a href="mailto:t..._at_charterinternet.com" style="color:blue;text-decora=
tion:underline" target="_blank">t..._at_charterinternet.com</a><br><br><br><=
br>On 4/25/09 11:19 PM, "James M. Atkinson" <<a href="mailto=
:jm..._at_tscm.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_=
blank">jm..._at_tscm.com</a>> wrote:</span></font></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom=
:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size=
="1" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial"><br>(=
S) Highly classified guide to the identification of bugs.<br>
<br>(S) Please do not distribute to non-cleared personnel<br><br>-jma<br><b=
r><br><br><br>-------------------------------------------------------------=
---------------------------------------<br> James M. Atkinson =
=
Phone: (978) 546-3803<br>
Granite Island Group =
Fax: (978) 546-9467<br> 127 Eastern A=
venue #291 Web: <a href=
="
http://www.tscm.com/" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" ta=
rget="_blank">
http://www.tscm.com/</a><br>
<a href="
http://www.tscm.com/" style="color:blue;text-decoration:und=
erline" target="_blank"><
http://www.tscm.com/></a><span> </span>=
Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 E-mail:<sp=
an> </span><a href="mailto:jm..._at_tscm.com" style="color:blue;text-dec=
oration:underline" target="_blank">mailto:jm..._at_tscm.com</a><br>
<br> <a href="mailto:jm..._at_tscm.com" style="color:blue;text-decoratio=
n:underline" target="_blank"><mailto:jm..._at_tscm.com></a><span> </=
span> <b><span style="font-weight:bold"><span> </span> Linked=
In Profile:<span> </span><a href="
http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesmatk=
inson" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">htt=
p://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesmatkinson</a><br>
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e;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><
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in/jamesmatkinson></a><span> </span></span></b>-----------------------=
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