News of "killer chip" from Liu Si Guang on 2009-05-20 (file.mbox)

From: Liu Si Guang <liusi..._at_gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 04:32:54 -0700 (PDT)

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Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] {2565} Re: GM Black Box
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Onstar CAN be used as a listening device and a GPS tracker from remote.
Like any cell phone, it merely needs to be reprogrammed from remote. A
trivial feat.

bts wrote:
> The box has been used for more than a couple decades. The purpose is
> accident reconstruction. It has a very short buffer, less than 30
> seconds, for which all active controls are monitored. There is no
> contained transmitter, It requires a special wired interface to
> download this info to a laptop. It tells when the brakes were hit,
> the RPM, what gear, lights on or off, etc.
> The procedure for download involves usually tearing up the carpet
> somewhere to find it.
>
> Then there is wireless monitoring.
> GM has Onstar and Ford has its own system, This system call query the
> car for airbags, transmission, oil, tire pressure etc. All thing
> connected to normal maintenance. GPS is accessed after a call is made
> by you.
>
> To anyone's knowledge that I have found, under normal operation.....
> On star can not silently call the vehicle like an infinity
> transmitter. Any call would produce a ring.
>
> The call that unlocks the doors is isolated from the audio. The system
> that lets them listem in after you ran into a tree, is a call out
> first initiated by the onboard sensors.
> --
> James Greenwold
> Bureau of Technical Services
> P.O. Box 191
> Chippewa Falls, WI54729
>
> 715-726-1400
>
> t..._at_charterinternet.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4/11/08 10:25 AM, "TSCM/SO Group" <Mit..._at_tscmusa.com> wrote:
>
> The "black box" is not a hoax, it can be found on various GM
> products. Its key features are more geared towards elements
> conducive to air bag deployment, hard braking, acceleration, top
> speed and other items more relative to performance, history and
> crash analysis. The "box" is not used for live reporting. Its
> merely a housing that stores on board data for retrieval at a
> later date
> M
> Mitch Davis
> TSCM/Special Operations Group
> 20 Music Square West,Suite 208
> Nashville,TN 37203 USA
> 615 251 0441
> Fax 615 523 0300
> mit..._at_tscmusa.com
> www.tscmusa.com <http://www.tscmusa.com>
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Onstar CAN be used as a listening device and a GPS tracker from remote.
Like any cell phone, it merely needs to be reprogrammed from remote. A
trivial feat. 
 
bts wrote:
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 The box has been used for more than a couple decades.  The
purpose is accident reconstruction.  It has a very short buffer, less
than 30 seconds, for which all active controls are monitored.  There is
no contained transmitter,  It requires a special wired interface to
download this info to a laptop.  It tells when the brakes were hit, the
RPM, what gear, lights on or off, etc. 
The procedure for download involves usually tearing up the carpet
somewhere to find it. 
 
Then there is wireless monitoring. 
GM has Onstar and Ford has its own system, This system call query the
car for airbags, transmission, oil, tire pressure etc.  All thing
connected to normal maintenance.  GPS is accessed after a call is made
by you. 
 
To anyone’s knowledge that I have found, under normal operation..... 
On star can not silently call the vehicle like an infinity transmitter.
 Any call would produce a ring. 
 
The call that unlocks the doors is isolated from the audio. The system
that lets them listem in after you  ran into a tree, is a call out
first initiated by the onboard sensors. 
-- 
James Greenwold 
Bureau of Technical Services 
P.O. Box 191 
Chippewa Falls, WI54729 
 
715-726-1400 
 
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:t..._at_charterinternet.com">t..._at_charterinternet.com</a> 
 
 
 
 
 
On 4/11/08 10:25 AM, "TSCM/SO Group" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Mit..._at_tscmusa.com"><M..._at_tscmusa.com></a> wrote: 
 
 
 <blockquote> The “black box” is not a hoax, it can be found on
various GM products. Its key features are more geared towards elements
conducive to air bag deployment, hard braking, acceleration, top speed
and other items more relative to performance, history and crash
analysis. The “box” is not used for live reporting. Its merely a
housing that stores on board data for retrieval at a later date 
M 
 Mitch Davis 
TSCM/Special Operations Group 
20 Music Square West,Suite 208 
Nashville,TN  37203 USA 
615 251 0441 
Fax 615 523 0300 
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mit..._at_tscmusa.com">mit..._at_tscmusa.com</a> 
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degree of excellence" 
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