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From: "James M. Atkinson" <jm..._at_tscm.com>
Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] {3019} "the men from the boys"
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There are three kinds of TSCM teams.
The first kind of team is "equipment light", in which the TSCM "team"
has less then $50,000 in equipment which they bring on site, which
usually includes only one, prime piece of sweep gear with a half
dozen smaller pieces of gear. May or may not include a spectrum
analyzer, and may or may not include computer controlled instruments.
Sweeps rarely take more then 4-5 hours, and the fee is usually around
$500 total or less for 2000 feet. Usually less then a couple of
hundred pounds of equipment, or a couple of brief-cases that you can
carry in the back of a car truck or back seat and can check on most
airlines as checked baggage. Typically an ex-cop, or person who lacks
a formal technical background but knows enough to think they know
what they are doing. There around around 800-1200 companies like this
in the country.
The second kind of team uses between $300,000 and 500,000 in
equipment, often with two independent, stand alone systems so that
they can operate in two different parts of the building, and they
have plenty of redundancy between the two (or more) system so that an
equipment failure does not result in a failure of the overall project
because they can fall back on using a single system. Almost all of
the equipment they use is computer controlled, and they generate hard
copy reports for everything they do. Frequency coverage is usually up
to 18 or 22 GHz, but they are usually limited to only one spectrum
analyzers. Sweeps are usually cursory and rarely take more then 12-16
hours on-site for 300 feet of space. Usually a couple of stacks of
sweep gear, but usually less then 1000 pounds (not including
suitcases or transit cases). Enough equipment to fill the back of an
large SUV (Yukon or Suburban), with the back seat down. This is a
typical government sweep team, where the sweeper has a technical
background but lacks a scientific background (maybe a dozen companies
like this in the country).
The third type of team brings $2,000,000 or more (much, much more) of
equipment to every sweep, usually has quadruple overlap where they
can run 4 or more stand-alone systems in different parts of the
building, have multiple identical high end spectrum analyzers
(usually over $100k each), they documents everything they do, see,
and measure, and it is virtually impossible for any kind of bugging
device to get by them as everything is qualified, analyses, and
evaluated in minute detail. A simple sweep of a single room 250 sq
foot room takes three days+, and they can spend a full week clearing
a couple of thousand feet. AT the end of the sweep they know where
every wire is, what is connected to anything, and what is on top of
every ceiling tile. If there is a soda can in the ceiling, or an old
wiring block they will find and document it, and figure out why it is
there. They check for any current flow of any kind, on any connector,
and any radiating signals from below 10 Hz to well over 40 GHz (325
GHz is common). Usually a couple of tons of equipment (not including
cases). It is not uncommon to bring 5 or 6 tons of equipment to the
sweep, plus ladders, lights, and other support gear. Large van, box
trucks, and trailers are usually used. The hard copy records of the
project is often thousands of pages long, and they can account for
anything, and everything on the job site. Usually they have a strong
technical and scientific background (there are around three companies
like this is the country).
The value of equipment is basically 25% below what you can currently
sell it for on E-Bay... not what you bought it for, or what you think
it is worth. The equipment does not include what you are leasing,
what you borrowed, or what you can lay your hands on, what you are
going to buy if you get the job, or borrow from your employer... it
is only what you actually own right now and can have rolling down the
street from your office in 10 minutes or less.
-jma
At 12:48 PM 11/23/2008, socalsweeps wrote:
>Please excuse this repost from another list. I felt it was
>interesting enough to merit a post here.
>
>"Kevin Murray's castoff's / surplus / junk is selling for 36 times the
>cost of a basic REI CPM 700, one of the most popular pieces that
>private investigators and beginning sweepers use to perform their sweeps.
>
>I wonder what the value of the gear in each of his teams kits is?"
>
>
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