RE: [TSCM-L] {2748} Secret Printer Dots Raise Privacy Concerns

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I did not know about this issue with the basic green. I doubt that it
posed much of a problem. Many countries started to use multi-color
currency and place indicators in or on the paper such as holograms,
etc, to defeat the copier problem, etc. It is probably best for a
country to just change the colour and design of its currency every
five years. Any not turned in after six months would be without
value.

 In general, it was much easier with the old black & white copiers
because you could defeat many of them by using apple to medium bright
red colored paper. When you tried to copy something written on the red
paper, it would come out of the copier as a blank sheet. Some
defendants used it to screw with the plaintiffs in major lawsuits. As
part of the discovery process, a defendant in one case had to turn
over 50,000 plus sheets of company records. They copied the records
onto red paper and delivered them to the plaintiff. The plaintiff
objected and tried to get the court to order the defendant to provide
the records on paper that could be copied. The court refused. The
plaintiff was then left with the options of trying to get a handle on
the case using just the red colored copy, copying it over by hand, or
getting a typist to re-type it on white paper so it could then be
copied. It is virtually impossible to conduct any legal action with
just one copy of a file.

It has also been rumoured that the major players in counterfeiting are
countries, not individuals or gangs. At that level, you can afford to
purchase top-end equipment and don't have much trouble with inks or
paper. Also, you can use your national bank to handle the stuff so you
can avoid many of the international money laundering measures. Poorer
countries and developing ones like China can use it as a free ride by
using bogus US, UK, Canadian, etc. currency to pay their bills. Richer
countries like the US and Russia can use counterfeiting as a means of
destabilizing other countries by devaluing its money supply. The
classic in this area came about in WW II. The US supplied the UK and
Russia with war equipment and material by shipping it across the
Altantic and Pacific as well as up through the Mediterranean. Many
ships were sunk. Besides eqipment, Russia was also receiving crates of
US currency from the United States to help pay its bills (eg.,
purchase of war material from neutrals). A senior officer in the US
Treasury convinced Secretary Morgentheau that it would be simpler to
just give the Russians a set of US printing plates and let them print
the currency in Russia. Save the US the problem of shipping. All on
the understanding that records would be kept and that the plates would
be returned after the war. Guess what, the plates were never returned
and the Russians probably never stopped using them until the currency
design changed. I believe the plates were for the $100 bill.

Aside from stockpiling paper from other printers, might it just be
possible to trim the edge off one side of the paper if that is where
the idicators are located?

Reg Curtis

On Jul 15, 6:22 am, d..._at_geer.org wrote:
> regina..._at_hotmail.com writes:
>
> -+---------------------------------
>  | A final thought. Could not the machine's signature be
>  | either altered or eliminated by modifying the circuitry
>  | - or is it going to be another black box affair?
>  |
>
> Two questions:
>
> Is it now, or was it ever, true that the color copiers
> specifically blanked on the basic green used in US
> currency?
>
> Should I always print and store a few blank sheets of
> paper whenever I have access to yet another laser
> printer, like when I use a service like Laptop Lane
> in some airport?
>
> --dan
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Those fears are well placed. If a technology can be whored to subvert
your rights, IT WILL! There are plenty of examples out there of this.

James M. Atkinson wrote:
> http://news.aol.com/story/_a/secret-printer-dots-raise-privacy/20080714095809990001
>
>
> *Secret Printer Dots Raise Privacy Concerns*
>
> By Thomas Frank,
> USA Today
> Posted: 2008-07-14 09:59:16
>
> (July 14) - The affordability and growing popularity of color laser
> printers is raising concerns among civil liberties advocates that your
> privacy may not be worth the paper you're printing on.
>
> More manufacturers are outfitting greater numbers of laser printers
> with technology that leaves microscopic yellow dots on each printed
> page to identify the printer's serial number - and ultimately, you,
> says the San Francisco-based Electronic Frontier Foundation, one of
> the leading watchdogs of electronic privacy.
>
> The technology has been around for years, but the declining price of
> laser printers and the increasing number of models with this feature
> is causing renewed concerns.
>
> The dots, invisible to the naked eye, can be seen using a blue LED
> light and are used by authorities such as the Secret Service to
> investigate counterfeit bills made with laser printers, says Lorelei
> Pagano, director of the Central Bank Counterfeit Deterrence Group.
>
> Privacy advocates worry that the little-known technology could ensnare
> political dissidents, whistle-blowers or anyone who prints materials
> that authorities want to track.
>
> "There's nothing about this technology that limits its application to
> counterfeit investigations," says Seth Schoen, a computer programmer
> with the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "Some people who aren't doing
> anything wrong may have their privacy threatened." Schoen's tests have
> found the dots produced by 111 color laser printers made by 13
> companies including Xerox, Canon, Hewlett-Packard, Epson and Brother.
>
> The dots are produced only on laser devices and not ink-jet printers,
> which are most commonly used at home. But laser printers, which
> produce more durable images, are becoming increasingly popular as
> their price has dropped to as low as $300, says Angele Boyd, a vice
> president of IDC Research.
>
> Although laser printers made up only 4% of the 33 million printers
> sold last year in the USA, their sales have been growing by double
> digits since 2004, Boyd says.
>
> The technology began as laser printers were first produced in the
> mid-1980s and governments and banks feared an explosion of
> counterfeiting, Xerox spokesman Bill McKee says. "In many cases, it is
> a requirement to do business internationally that the printers are
> equipped with this technology," McKee says.
>
> The dots tell authorities the serial number of a printer that made a
> document. In some cases, it also tells the time and date it was
> printed, Pagano says. "The Secret Service is the only U.S. body that
> has the ability to decode the information," she says.
>
> Printer makers "cooperate with law enforcement" and will tell
> authorities where a printer was made and sold, McKee says.
>
> The Secret Service uses the dots only to investigate counterfeiting,
> agency spokesman Ed Donovan says.
>
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Those fears are well placed. If a technology can be whored to subvert
your rights, IT WILL! There are plenty of examples out there of this.<br>
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James M. Atkinson wrote:
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  <h1><b>Secret Printer Dots Raise Privacy Concerns</b></h1>
By Thomas
Frank,<br>
USA Today<br>
Posted: 2008-07-14 09:59:16<br>
  <br>
(July 14) - The affordability and growing popularity of color laser
printers is raising concerns among civil liberties advocates that your
privacy may not be worth the paper you're printing on.<br>
  <br>
More manufacturers are outfitting greater numbers of laser printers
with
technology that leaves microscopic yellow dots on each printed page to
identify the printer's serial number - and ultimately, you, says the
San
Francisco-based Electronic Frontier Foundation, one of the leading
watchdogs of electronic privacy.<br>
  <br>
The technology has been around for years, but the declining price of
laser printers and the increasing number of models with this feature is
causing renewed concerns.<br>
  <br>
The dots, invisible to the naked eye, can be seen using a blue LED
light
and are used by authorities such as the Secret Service to investigate
counterfeit bills made with laser printers, says Lorelei Pagano,
director
of the Central Bank Counterfeit Deterrence Group.<br>
  <br>
Privacy advocates worry that the little-known technology could ensnare
political dissidents, whistle-blowers or anyone who prints materials
that
authorities want to track.<br>
  <br>
"There's nothing about this technology that limits its application
to counterfeit investigations," says Seth Schoen, a computer
programmer with the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "Some people who
aren't doing anything wrong may have their privacy threatened."
Schoen's tests have found the dots produced by 111 color laser printers
made by 13 companies including Xerox, Canon, Hewlett-Packard, Epson and
Brother.<br>
  <br>
The dots are produced only on laser devices and not ink-jet printers,
which are most commonly used at home. But laser printers, which produce
more durable images, are becoming increasingly popular as their price
has
dropped to as low as $300, says Angele Boyd, a vice president of IDC
Research.<br>
  <br>
Although laser printers made up only 4% of the 33 million printers sold
last year in the USA, their sales have been growing by double digits
since 2004, Boyd says.<br>
  <br>
The technology began as laser printers were first produced in the
mid-1980s and governments and banks feared an explosion of
counterfeiting, Xerox spokesman Bill McKee says. "In many cases, it
is a requirement to do business internationally that the printers are
equipped with this technology," McKee says.<br>
  <br>
The dots tell authorities the serial number of a printer that made a
document. In some cases, it also tells the time and date it was
printed,
Pagano says. "The Secret Service is the only U.S. body that has the
ability to decode the information," she says.<br>
  <br>
Printer makers "cooperate with law enforcement" and will tell
authorities where a printer was made and sold, McKee says.<br>
  <br>
The Secret Service uses the dots only to investigate counterfeiting,
agency spokesman Ed Donovan says.<br>
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