BlackB
November 2nd, 2000, 13:39
Wow, another message on ASProtect. Maybe we 'd start to call this msgboard the "ASProtect discussion forum".
Anywayz, I wanted to give a short comment on all this "ASProtect" stuff: I'm starting to see myself and all other reverse engineers as "we-work-and-give-advice-for-nothing"-employees of Alex S.
ASProtect is very interesting, studied it a lot too, but I refuse to write anything more about it. There has been written enough, and everybody with a little bit of common sense and some work can find out how it works, and can remove it.
But now, what happens? Everytime the author changes even the slightest thing, new tutorials are written and new discussions are started. So what does the author do? Read all the stuff and improving the protection. He brings out a new version, and we, who seem to LOVE to work for free for other people, start to reverse engineer (nothing wrong until now), and publish how to remove the protection. Author reads those papers to and improves again....you see, i'm starting to believe that we have put hundreds of more time into his product then he, himself has put in it. But don't forget people, that we don't earn a penny with it, and he does.
Now, don't misunderstand what i'm saying here. I 'm the first to give information for free. You see, my site about reverse engineering is 100% commerial-dirt free, and I never want to earn money with it. Nor with my site, nor with cracks I write, nor with tutorials I write.
I suggest you start discussing ASProtect via email, and write tutes about it for personal use, or just to give to a limited amount of people, and certainly not to publish it, or to mail the author how you removed it.
And you know, I hate ASProtect. Not because it's hard to crack, but because an application wrapped with it just sux to use:
1. app becomes pretty much slower (just compare the asprotected and non-asprotected versions of TheBat!)
2. if you only want to try an app, or if you bought it legally, it really sux that you have to disable your softice
3. personally, some asprotected apps crashed when using borland c++ v5.02. (due to the internal debugger it has? or was it just my system? dunno, but i think asprotect is suspect nr. one.)
Comments on this non-prepared maybe lame comment are welcome. but i mean every word of it
greetz
BlackB
ps: Alex, if you wanna know how I remove your protection, it 'll cost you about 500$ :P
Anywayz, I wanted to give a short comment on all this "ASProtect" stuff: I'm starting to see myself and all other reverse engineers as "we-work-and-give-advice-for-nothing"-employees of Alex S.
ASProtect is very interesting, studied it a lot too, but I refuse to write anything more about it. There has been written enough, and everybody with a little bit of common sense and some work can find out how it works, and can remove it.
But now, what happens? Everytime the author changes even the slightest thing, new tutorials are written and new discussions are started. So what does the author do? Read all the stuff and improving the protection. He brings out a new version, and we, who seem to LOVE to work for free for other people, start to reverse engineer (nothing wrong until now), and publish how to remove the protection. Author reads those papers to and improves again....you see, i'm starting to believe that we have put hundreds of more time into his product then he, himself has put in it. But don't forget people, that we don't earn a penny with it, and he does.
Now, don't misunderstand what i'm saying here. I 'm the first to give information for free. You see, my site about reverse engineering is 100% commerial-dirt free, and I never want to earn money with it. Nor with my site, nor with cracks I write, nor with tutorials I write.
I suggest you start discussing ASProtect via email, and write tutes about it for personal use, or just to give to a limited amount of people, and certainly not to publish it, or to mail the author how you removed it.
And you know, I hate ASProtect. Not because it's hard to crack, but because an application wrapped with it just sux to use:
1. app becomes pretty much slower (just compare the asprotected and non-asprotected versions of TheBat!)
2. if you only want to try an app, or if you bought it legally, it really sux that you have to disable your softice
3. personally, some asprotected apps crashed when using borland c++ v5.02. (due to the internal debugger it has? or was it just my system? dunno, but i think asprotect is suspect nr. one.)
Comments on this non-prepared maybe lame comment are welcome. but i mean every word of it
greetz
BlackB
ps: Alex, if you wanna know how I remove your protection, it 'll cost you about 500$ :P