The sheer importance of the New World Order mind control issue makes it worth at least asking for anonymous postings from the perpetrators. The visitor to this page will have to judge the postings below as to their possible authenticity. I will post below those submissions which seem to have at least a 50% chance of being genuine.
I would suggest that if an anonymous perpetrator really wants to convince us that he/she is authentic, while remaining anonymous, that perpetrator could tell me something that no one other than myself could know about.
Finally, to the perpetrators, I include you in my prayers.
========================================================================== SELECTED RESPONSES TO THE QUESTIONNAIRE ========================================================================== SUBMISSION - January 8, 2003 Q. Can you tell us how you found work as a harassment agent? "I was serving in my nations air-force, when I was invited to a recruitment drive for our 'secret service', mainly because of my doctorate in neurophysiology. I spent 6 years with the service before being granted leave to work at a large multi-national investment bank. "My work here relates to the manipulation of the stock market in such a way that when trade information is displayed on most of the common trading systems, various 'subliminal' messages are relayed to brokers in order to maximise our profits. My tenure here is coming to an end, and I plan on retiring in the next few months. "I guess I was motivated primarily by curiosity and intrigue at the advances in neuropsychology being employed by these agencies, and it was only recently that I began to realise the nefarious side of my employment. To be honest, I am only human, and as such a pawn in the greater scheme of things, and the financial remuneration has been significant. In essence, I have 'sold out'. Those in my field are on salaries equivalent to US$1 million+ per annum. My base salary is only US$200,000 (which is typical for a long standing employee of an investment bank), with the remainder being paid through various off-shore accounts. When I retire I hope to publicise my information." ========================================================================== SUBMISSION - January 8, 2003 Can you tell us how you found work as a harassment agent? "Ad in the paper. Sounded like interesting work, so I said 'Why not?' " Can you tell us why you find this type of work satisfying? "Pays really good, and since there are so many of us we get a lot of vacation time. Unlimited Power." Can you give us some idea as to how and how much you are paid? "Cold hard cash, and lots of it. It's easy to say we need expense money." Can you tell us what you know about future plans for us? "Wait until you see what we got planned for next March." [EW: I suspect he/she may mean THIS March, 2003.] ========================================================================== SUBMISSION - February 11, 2003 I wanted to be in a position of control. The feeling of having so many lives at my fingertips is just a rush. I used to run a small arms deals business outside of San Fransisco, until the feds finally had the evidence they needed to storm my building. Specifically, my prints on stolen goods. But I was able to elude them for so long, and they were impressed with the organization I was able to build, so they made me a deal. Federal prison, or work for them. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. At first, the control that I was able to extend to those assigned to me was a rush. Every time I made a decision that could make or ruin a life, I just got a run of adrenaline. The feeling was astounding. That feeling only lasted for the first few months. My superiors have since then tightened our restraints to ensure that we can't contact the outside world. They insist that no one know we exist and anyone who knew me before had thought I had died when I was recruited. This conspiracy goes much deeper than you think it does. The government is little more than a front for an even large organization, and those people are ruthless. [Eleanor White talking: Most of us have figured out that whay you say about the visible government being just "window dressing" to cover for a larger, invisible organization must be true.] More ruthless than I or anyone I work with. They could just as easily sentence a room of 5 year olds to death as they could shower in the morning. Hypnosis isn't even the begining of it, although we have used hypnotic techniques to make some forget of our existance, we mostly operate through covert operations. Terrorism, seemingly illegal acts. Consider this: when you see a news story about a man who killed his neighbor and was arrested, that neighbor is most likely one of the people my superiors doesn't want to exist, and the person who did it is one of our operatives, and I can guarentee that that person never went to jail for a second, rather, he was brought back to the nearest mobile command center. We are paid well, there is no question about that, but with all the security measures we must go through, there's no where we can spend it. I can't even go to Wendy's without risking being recognized, just like many other of my co operatives. So our money mostly goes to purchasing supplies and ordering food and things from places that will deliver food or that we have an agreement with. I only have about 5 minutes left to type before the counter-IC programs go down, so I'm going to have to make this quick. You must know about the new static field generator that my agency is developing. It distorts all light and sound waves that pass through it creating an illusion much like invisibility coupled with a dead spot of noise. In other words, you won't be able to hear or see whatever is in the radius of the static field. [Eleanor White talking: This sounds like the "circle of silence" which witnesses in areas where 'bigfoot' is seen or similar 'spiritually intense' sites are. Temperature changes, either up or down when one enters these circular zones, and once inside the zone, no sound, even if the wind is strong outside the zone, can enter.] The thing returns false radio, UV, IR, and thermal signals, as well. We've field tested small models that can cover a single individual, and have had no real problems with those, but soon we will be developing larger ones to hide aircraft and large artillery. I think my superiors are going to stop the war with Iraq before bush even knows what happened. I have to go now, the counter-IC is nearly exausted. Viva freedom. ========================================================================== SUBMISSION - February 12, 2003 About 12 years [Eleanor White talking: I don't have a question asking "how many years" so I'm not sure what the responder means by "About 12 years". Probably the time he's been in the biz.] I get to mind f--k simpleton's such as yourself. This helps forward our plan for world domination by the secret group known only as the JAV. In the blood of freshly killed goats. Involves Potatoes and a small Yak. ========================================================================== SUBMISSION - February 17, 2003 I was approached while in college. I never completed school and instead went into training with the monitoring and enforcement group. I worked with agents at a now-closed facility in middle Georgia (east of Macon) where I went through five years of extremely intensive training, sometimes going two or three days at a time with little or no sleep. Many people would say that power is the main reason they do this. While this is certainly a part of it, I do this because it gives me a chance to help make this a better world. How many other people can honestly say that they go to work every morning and make actual changes in how the world at large works? If all goes according to plans, the world will be a very different place after the next ten years, and I will be extremely proud to be able say that I played a part in it. [Eleanor White talking: So you think that lifetime torture, destruction of relationships, quality of life, and careers makes the world a better place? Don't the persistent reports from those who have had near death experiences suggest to you that just maybe you should consider what a career in torture might imply for your experiences in the next life?] I also enjoy the travel- I've been to all fifty states and thirty other countries, including every continent except Antarctica. I spent quite a bit of time working at a behavioral research and modification facility in Nigeria where I was able to work on some cutting edge technology and see firsthand how well it worked. I expect some amazing things to begin happening here in the US very soon as this technology begins to be used here! I am not paid extravagantly, but I am comfortable. I recieve a salary from a federal agency and pay taxes as everyone else in the country does. My salary is based on the standard government pay scale and as a front I have a cover job with a public government agency. My first year of training I recieved a flat stipend of $3000- the idea is that people recruited for this service realize that they're here to serve their fellow man and not to become wealthy. If I told you, you wouldn't believe me. It's hard to comprehend some of the changes that have been planned and I'm sure there will be some resistance at first as change is always difficult. I think that everyone will agree afterwards that all the changes have been very beneficial and that our new transhuman future is so much better than our current lives. Eleanor, I have done some investigation of some of the allegations on your site. I believe that your 'sabotage' problems are not the result of our organization. We do not break chairs or wear holes in underwear, nor do we loosen door hinges. I can assure you that the work we do is much more subtle and extremely difficult to detect. My colleagues and I believe that you may be suffering mental issues which may or may not be the result of earlier projects. I cannot give more information than this, but I would strongly recommend that you see a psychiatrist. [Eleanor White talking: I have, in fact, twice, and the report was no signs of mental illness. And since mental illness doesn't sabotage things, and since psychiatrists know nothing about even MKULTRA, never mind the current day stuff, they are not qualified to even begin to do anything but mis-diagnose, and heap more torture upon us. If your organization isn't doing this, rest assured someone with equally powerful backers IS.] ========================================================================== SUBMISSION - March 7, 2003 I was contacteed through a pay phone by a man calling himself "John Smith". He told me to come to an address which I can not disclose with you. I do not find it satisfying. $100,000 per year The money is wired to a private bank account with no name. [Future plans are] Confidential How do you know all this? [Eleanor White answering:] 1. I've been a target for this activity for 23 years. 2. Almost 2,000 other targets, world wide, have collectively assembled the information on my web site and others. My prayers are with you. ========================================================================== SUBMISSION - March 27, 2003 I was first approached during my employment at NASA. Specifically while I was in Florida at the Kennedy Space Center working on low level sound wave communications. First designed for submarine communications over great distances, the technology now has grown towards potential use as an instant communication conduit and as a non-lethal weapon on crowds or populations. My superior, a man that rarely talked to the employees and was overall very shy, called me into my office to "discuss my future." After 10 minutes in his office, it was clear to me that I had no choice but to work with his "organization." That was 15 years ago, and I have hated myself ever since for not telling him no. I don't find this work satisfying in the least, but what can I do? The pay is the only good thing about this place. About all of it. I think the typical pay for someone in my position is $150k to $200k a year, but that is just speculation since topics of pay and job specialty are prohibited. Accounts are setup for us. I dont know much outside of my own specialty, but I do get a kick out of it whenever I see something on TV about the "Taos Hum" I know. It was sound people, low level and sub-sonic. Features? I dont understand this question. Being able to target a crowd of people and cause discomfort or even a euphoric rage, I would not call that a feature. One day I would like to see a list of the companies and people that have my superiors scared like rabbits. I would like all the people to see it. See it and put a stop to this insanity. This domination of decent people. This inhumanity. ========================================================================== SUBMISSION TO THE MIND CONTROL PERP SURVEY FORM: May 13, 2003 What: I'm not sure. It is very compartmentalized. Individual operators are only given enough information to get the job done. Why: I am being blackmailed. Future plans: As I said earlier, I only know what I need to do my job. Questions are not permitted. Controlled: If you consider blackmail a form of control, then yes. Fear: My life and the life of my children. Trapped: Yes. I killed a young woman in a drunk driving incident and the operators helped the problem "go away" In return, I am tied to them for life. Enjoy: No, I never knew the pain I was causing until I stumbled here. The is a great divide between what I was told and what is actually going on. I was told the project involved criminal rehabilitation. Now I know it is much more than that. Questions: No, just my apologies. Please realize that most operators are very low level and have no idea that they are helping to torture people. Most of the other operators are much like myself. They are everyday people that have made a pact with the wrong side and when they realize it, its too late. ========================================================================== SUBMISSION TO THE MIND CONTROL PERP SURVEY FORM: May 26, 2003 What: I don't really know. Let's get this straight right off. I don't create "alters" or "manchurians" if such things even exist. I simply train "persons" in the ability to retain information, tremandous ammounts of information. I suppose what I am building is a spy who does not need a camera, but I don't think so. Possibly a depository of information, Someone who can keep an entire bank ledger in his head, no paper trail, no evidence. I don't know, I complete the training and I never see my subjects again and I'm never told where they go or even who they are for that matter. Why: I was taught the system I teach others in university by another student. He was older than your average college punk. He approached me at a time we were lab partners in an entry level course, somehow he could tell I would be succeptable to it and would pick it up easily. He made me an offer I couldn't refuse, straight A's. Later he recruited me to teach the technique to a few "refferals". I was paid quite well for my services, and still am for that matter. I don't consider myself an agent of any kind. I don't even know who it is I really work for. A fact that troubles me. I never thought much of it in the beginning, the money was good, as far as I knew I was just helping my fellow man better himself. I'm beginning to wonder now. I'm older now, maybee a little smarter, and able to detect lies with a greater degree of proficiency. I hear alot of lies now and even more silence and words unspoken. The secrecy is indicative of something, I'm not sure what. Future plans: I can only tell you about my students. They are young and naive but incredibly focused, almost cold, by the time they get to me. I suspect they have recieved some sort of training to focus their minds before they are given to me. They see to be for the most part amoral, calculating, not necesarily overly intelligent but not stupid either. They are dedicated, in any event, and rarely reveal anything about themselves. At lighter moments I sometimes try to make small talk to get a feel for who I am dealing with. I'll ask them about the weather, a ballgame, they never have any oppinion on even trivial matters. Every word that seems to come out of thier mouths is crafted to be a guarded non answer or a lie. A question like "where ya' from" always elicits a New York, Toronto, Beijing response. Try to find out anything about a John Doe from New York. Good Luck. All I can say is that these men and women are probably up to no good. Controlled: Not in that sense. I am controlled by the "don't ask don't tell and you won't have to consider the consequences of such, if they even exist" type of atmosphere. You just know by the way people act, that you don't want to know. I know the consequences are not good, but I have no idea how bad they might be. Fear of the unknown if you will. I suppose there is a possibility I am being controlled in a more direct manner, but reason dictates that if that were true, I wouldn't be typing this right now. Fear: Yes, though I have no concrete reason to give you. As I said, fear of the unknown. Trapped: I was drawn in slowly, to something that seemed to be not only innocent at first, but quite constructive. Something like Adam and Eve eating from the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good an evil, I have slowly been awakened. My relationship with my "masters" over that time has devolved from a "father/son" type realtionship to a much more uneasy worker foreman type arrangement. I fear the relationship has not yet hit bottom. Again more fear of the unknown to ensure it never get's that far. It is almost as if they can read my mind, or at least my state of mind. They know I am something of a threat to them now. But in a sense, what threat? I don't know anything. Enjoy: I loathe it. I don't know what kind of killers, or theives I'm dealing with and am helping to perfect on a daily basis. I thought I recognized of my trainees from about 6 years back a few weeks ago. Her picture was on the net standing in a crowd of anti- war protestors. I am certain it was her she was a little older and a little heavier, however I am certain it was her. I never forget a face, or a name, or a phone number, It's my job after all. I can't for the life of me figure out why she would have been there. Like I suggested earlier, none of them could care less about such things. She must be there for a reason, who knows what? All I know is that I am not creating upstanding members of society. I manufacture ghouls and goblins and it makes me sick to think of it. Questions: You'll never win. I'ts too late. ========================================================================== SUBMISSION TO THE MIND CONTROL PERP SURVEY FORM: June 3, 2003 what: Despite what you may believe about grandiose, mysterious internationalist cabals and shadow governments, I worked with the governments of Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, and on four occasions with the Consiglieri Nacionale of Italy in various (mostly clandestine) capacities for twenty-eight years without ever having occasion to discover evidence of any agencies of the sort which are now popularly termed the "New World Order". My client states, sponsors, co-workers, and I were engaged in earnest efforts to thwart the propogation of communism by whatever means we, at the time, deemed the most expedient. What we hoped to accomplish, in simple language, was to rid our world of the plague of leftist thought and action, to identify those who direct or commit acts of sabotage, to disrupt their organizations and infrastucture, and to rehabilitate impressionable victims of pernicious leftist dogma. why: While it is undeniable that I have lived a life of relative material comfort and priveledge in a part of the world where many are quite poor, I have always been an idealogue and I have chosen to walk the path I have walked because I believe in the good work we have committed our lives to complete. I wield little real power, and I am not even known publicly as a member of the Security Forces of my client states. I cannot even fix my own traffic citations. All of this is satisfactory to me, and my conscience is untroubled by the things I have seen, learned of, or done in the nearly three decades of my professional life. futureplans: I would, of course, never divulge operational details, or such things as new technologies which periodically become available. Having said so, I am happy to state that our work continues to evolve and to progress, and in ways which are less traumatic to our subjects than previous, less evolved methods and practices. At the same time, increasingly satisfactory results are being achieved in terms of intelligence gathered, as well as long-term control of our "volitionals" and "sub-volitionals". controlled: Having knowledge of the processes by which control of our subjects is achieved, I am able to say that I am, with every certainty, neither what we term a "volitional", or a "sub-volitional". It would be fair to say that I am controlled to a degree by my desire to have a role in the efforts to bring about the eventual demise of communism, as well as my desire to have a role in furthering the cause of National Socialism. fear: If you are asking whether I fear reprisal for any failure on my part to continue with our work, then the question is both naive and irrelevant. I am very gratified in my professional life. However, I live with the knowledge that certain governments would kill in order to ferret our secrets, or to prevent my client states from possessing these rarefied abilities to win friends and influence people. I take such precautions as I reasonably am able to take, but otherwise I live a normal, comfortable existence when I'm not working. trapped: Absolutely not. My father was an officer in the S.S. during the Second World War, and a number of my mother's family were members of the Hungarian Arrow Cross Movement during the same time. They met in Spain after the war while living in one of the communities of expatriates which evolved in response to the nuisance of Soviet occupation, Nuremberg-type inquiries, etc., and subsequently married and then settled in Uruguay under new names. I was born there in 1953, but was sent to be raised with the family of my "Onkel", who was not actually a relative, in British Colombia. My parents maintained regular contact with me, and I spent my summers with them and three younger sisters on our farm in Uruguay. My parents, as well as my "Onkel" remained believers in the National Socialist Cause, and thier hatred of communism was galvanized by the events following the war. One may say that the torch was passed to me, and I have nurtured that flame in my heart throughout my life! Following my university education, I served with the United States Navy, and Naval Intelligence. It was during this time, and in the capacity of my duties that I first had occasion to work with my current client states and in a similar kind of role. I believed (and still do) in the beneficial effects of our work, and was able to prove my aptitude for the sort of projects with which I was involved. I knew then that I had found a way to serve the world doing something I found challenging and interesting. (I deliberately do not wish to employ the word "enjoyable" out of respect for the suffering and upheaval occassionally caused by my work upon the lives and psyches of our direct subjects and those others indirectly affected.) After a period of honourable service, I resigned my Naval Commission, and have since that time worked semi-autonomously in the trade with the Security Forces of my client states. I accept responsibility for my work without mitigation or hand-wringing. Likewise, I accept credit for my share in what we have been able to accomplish in a spirit of gratitude that I've had the priveledge of having opportunities to make a bit of a difference in an increasingly chaotic world. enjoy: As I have already made clear, I feel that the word "enjoy" would be less appropriate, less accurate than an alternative word or phrase. None of my colleagues are sadists, and neither am I. We are proud of what we are working toward, and we are proud of the underlying moral and political motivations that guide us in our efforts. Kindly pardon what you may consider fussy semantic distinctions, but take into account how closely a question of semantics bears upon the methodology of Persuasion/Compulsion/Conditioning. questions: I doubt very much that your belief in the rights-of-the- individual would be altered at all by whatever I might offer here for your consideration. Let me simply leave you with this: We do not undertake the initiation of any new subject-file lightly, or arbitrarily. If you found yourself the object of the attentions of my Works Program, it would be because of your own demonstrated opposition to the interests of my client states. Believe or disbelieve any part of this submission as your own faculties and proclivities dictate. I'll be sleeping contented and vindicated regardless. Auf Wiedersehen. ========================================================================== SUBMISSION - June 9, 2003 (raven1.net form) [Can you tell us how you found work as a harassment agent?] I didn't find it as much as it found me. I think I was supposed to be a victim, but my advanced intellect made that difficult. I was able to counter every attempt initialy made against me. I was asked by a high ranking member of the air force if I would be interested in taking part in a program for national security. I wouldn't have imagined what it actualy meant. I figured that I would, at best, review low level reports from covert millitary personel. [Can you tell us why you find this type of work satisfying?] I don't. If we were using it on subjects who knowingly accepted to be tested, or if we were using this technology on enemy combatants (which is possible -- I don't know everything that goes on), I wouldn't mind. This is not the case. I, and I presume everyone else in the program, are paid the same as any other federal employee. We get checks which we deposit into our bank accounts. Those who can leave the site are free to spend as they see fit. Of course, we are watched. [Can you give us some idea as to how and how much you are paid?] We are paid VERY well, as you might imagine. I've only been with the program for a little over five years and am making slightly more than $50,000.00 a year. I also get full (military) benifits at no additional cost. I can, if I wish, live "on base" for free. I've elected not to do this, but many others have. [Can you tell us what you know about future plans for us?] I don't have access to that information. I have heard rumors, but I have no way to confirm them. The most recent rumor I've heard deals with March of next year. I have no real details, but I understand it's not going to be pleasant. [Which features of the electronic equipment do you especially enjoy using?] I like "The Walkman" as we've come to call it. An oporative will carry what looks like a standard Walkman radio. It is in fact a transmiter that is tuned to a specific subject. We can send thoughts, sounds and images to the subject "on the fly" as it were and no one would suspect a thing. If you see, hear, smell something odd and there is someone with a walkman type player, they may be sending you the information. Asking them about it is pointless since with the flip of a hidden switch, it will work like a standard Walkman. Is there any way to get out of this? I'll sign a secrecy document and pretend I was never a part of the program. [Eleanor White's comment: I suspect that the "walkman" is in fact a remote terminal, linked to regional harassment bases. This is the only way the perps could exercise enough control to prevent personal "hacking" use by perps on people who are not enrolled as victims.] I would write more, but the counter measures I've put in place wont go undetected for much longer, and it's not pretty if anyone is found to have spilled the beans. ========================================================================== SUBMISSION TO THE MIND CONTROL PERP SURVEY FORM: July 11, 2003 at 11:55 EDT ========================================================================== SUBMISSION TO THE MIND CONTROL PERP SURVEY FORM: July 11, 2003 at 12:29 EDT what: Information. The implants are really not so much for mind-control, as you may have been led to believe. Some unscrupulous agents among us have been known to use the devices in this manner, however. The transceivers actually harvest certain types of sensory input, which can be relayed back as data. Data, which when coupled with such mundane collection methods such as wiretaps, tracking devices, and checking listings in the TV Guide, can be quantified into useful information. Surely you've realized there was more to the VCR+ numbers than met the eye, yes? It's easiest to think of it as a high-tech census. why: Certainly. We do not believe this to be a conspiracy, at least not by the same definition. It it merely an exercise in covert data collecting. I am merely a collection agent, for lack of a better, or less classified word. The pay is good, we get vision, dental, and prescription coverage, and two weekends out of three off. futureplans: To the best of my knowledge, there are no future plans beyond the continued collection of data. Due to the nature of the devices, we could not suddenly cause any percentage of the populace to stand up in unison and become an army of robots. That's just not how they work. controlled: Technically, there is no 'control' per se. When the devices are improperly used, they can generate feedback, which can be altered to cause a form of suggestion, but no more. Generally, the feedback only results in a headache. Sorry about that. The truth is, the suggestions generated cannot seriously alter a person's behavior - it is much like with hypnosis - the subject will not do anything they are not predisposed to doing. The devices cannot induce a person to kill, unless that person had homicidal tendencies to begin with. fear: No more than most any other people who carry classified information. In this case, the story is so fantastic that it would be pointless to go public, as we would be dismissed or ridiculed by the public at large. Which is just the way we like it. There's no point in spilling the beans on a story nobody wants to hear, eh? trapped: No. It came as a sort of natural progression from my previous, somewhat related field. Obviously I cannot disclose that field, but suffice it to say there are enough people in it to keep us happily staffed for quite some time. enjoy: Eh. It has its days. Most of the time it involves reading graphs similar to EEG charts, checking GPS data, and cross-referencing other sources. Most of it is quite dull, really. But as I said, it pays well. questions: None to speak of. I wish you luck in your endeavors. ========================================================================== SUBMISSION TO THE MIND CONTROL PERP SURVEY FORM: July 11, 2003 at 14:22 EDT what: Our activities are not about what we want from you. They are about what you want from yourselves. The people of the earth desire peace of mind and security, conditions that could not possibly exist without the actions of our organization. We do not seek power. We seek to serve the human race which demands our existence. why: I resent the term "harassment agent" and refuse to answer a question worded in such a way. futureplans: There are no "future plans." Our mission is not to drive the human race toward some secret goal. Our mission is to maintain the security enjoyed by the human race today. Just as in wartime, there are truths which must be kept secret in order to save lives. For obvious reasons, I cannot tell you what they are. controlled: The idea that we are "controlling" individuals is overstated. Our work does not involve altering people's conscious thoughts. At times it unfortunately requires selective memory control and close monitoring of individuals. To answer your question, then, no. I am not controlled, nor is my memory altered. I could not perform my duties if it were. fear: No, thanks in large part to our organization's work. trapped: I am honored to serve the people of earth through my work. Some deception was required early on while my loyalty was determined, but I was not "trapped" in any way. enjoy: Just like any soldier, I have rewarding parts of my job and regrettable parts. Whenever individuals must be harmed to protect the greater good, it causes me great personal pain and sadness. But the good I am able to do far outweighs the bad, and so I make that sacrifice for the benefit of everyone. questions: You may have heard many conflicting stories about the work we do. I urge you not to believe everything you hear. Many of the supposed "victims" of our organization are frauds seeking attention. Others are people that we have legitimately dealt with, but are criminals against humanity and not to be trusted. The movie "Men In Black" is not a serious movie, nor are the men in black a real organization, but I like to use the movie as an example of a useful change in perspective. The mythical men in black have always been portrayed as repressive, cruel, and heartless. In the movie, the filmmakers chose to show the situation from their point of view and suggest that perhaps these men in black have good reasons for acting as they do. Our organization deserves a similar look. If you knew all the details, you would be more willing to give us the benefit of the doubt. All of us are humans, just like you, and we are doing our job because we believe it is the right thing to do. ========================================================================== SUBMISSION TO THE MIND CONTROL PERP SURVEY FORM: July 11, 2003 at 16:17 EDT what: While many of "you" people claim to have implants, internal monitoring devices, or "lost time", these methodologies were slowly phased out with the coming of the mid 70's. The project I work on has to do with subversion of "devious/potenitally criminal elements as related to public, social, and economic security." As a result of the infrastructural work done in the 60's, and mid 70's as stated above, the project has taken on a self-propogating nature. In effect, relatively few tasks are actually still performed on subjects. Many do not fully know they have been selected. Ohter think they have, but usually suffer from paranoid/schizophrenic delusional disorders, or are simply to imbued with a deviant psychological make-up to be told that in fact, they are not a test subject. It is interesting to note however, that many of those that think they are subjects but are not, and are *not* delusional, are usually "blue-marked", in which a small amout of SAT-IV time is marked t! o track out a daily logistic chart, should the need ever arise.We do this to keep the nation running in a generally orderly fashion, with few outbreaks of public backlash, or subversive elements chipping at the infrastructure that we all depend on. Our government has invested consideralbe time and money in this nation and the ways and means it runs on, and they do not intend to let a tiny minority ruin it for the majority of citizens. why: Incredible pay. Benefits. My childrens grandchildren will be set for life. I made a personal choice 15 years ago to go this course, and while at times it is a rocky road, for the most part I feel what we do is of a vile but necessary nature. futureplans: Audiological technology is the next wave. Currently researched by DARPA, the technology is easily researched and still in the public domain. Unlike microwaves, whose wavelengths tend to cause bodily harm, Tangent Aural Directioning seems to cause little if any bodily harm, and only a mild discomfort. It is essentially sound whose physical properties are those of a beam, almost similar to light, and this beam can be tightly focused and directed, unlike conventional sound waves. The end-game of this technology is to allow deviant behavior to be controlled passively, without fear of reprisal or discovery. Project also known as PSAD, Pseudo-Subconsious Aural Direction, essentially a high-tech voice in subjects head. Timeline is for F.Y. 2007, pending funding controlled: Yes, to a certain extent. I feel the responses you have are not a genuine nature, as in no way have I ever heard of, or am fearful of my life should I neglect my duties or become traitorous to the project. However, jailtime and financial ruin are the main elements to punishment that we have been told of. We have also been informed that should we go absent prematurely, these consequences will go down approximately two generations, depending on family ties. This is guaranteed. fear: Ironically, more so from the subjects we research and blue-tag (blue-tagging involves sometimes having to physically follow a subject to get general coordinates for the sat) than from upper echelons in the hierarchy. Physical pain and the fear of reprisals in the form of murder or death are not thought of as fitting the nature of our project. trapped: To a certain extent, but nothing like the "car accident" fellow. I am a high-level software and hardware designer, I was elected by my management into the position. Initially the project seemed much like everything else we did, only without the civilian control aspect. However, as time progressed, people would expose me to more and more ideas that showed the fundamental nature of what we were accomplishing. By that time (yes, the cliche is true), I was "in over my head". However, I have come to realize that the work, while not simply benign in nature, is not overtly harmful to people, and I feel that I will be able to keep my end of the bargain to my superiors if they keep theirs. enjoy: I would say yes, with a but. Yes, I do enjoy the technology that we have at our disposal, if we were able to bring it into the public domain, medical science would be advanced by a decade overnight. I am not the only technician to wrangle with the moral and ethical implications of what we do, but sometimes I can clearly see the social implications of our work, in a disaster averted or a company saved. Needless to say, the scope of the "problems" we solve is vast. It still boggles my mind to hear of the work done by other sectors. (Five in all) questions: Where in gods name do these conspiracy theories get cooked up from? Some of the literally, complete crocks of shit, that we have seen are simply hilarious. However, we have seen three examples that speak of a high-level leak, and these were investigated. I feel comfortable telling about the Aural Directional Technology simply becuase the equiptment is in the public domain, it is an up and coming technology, and the overt publicity to many people implies a sense of domesticity that covers up what it can be used for. ========================================================================== SUBMISSION TO THE MIND CONTROL PERP SURVEY FORM: July 11, 2003 at 16:31 EDT what: Its very difficult to tell you anything. I know that I was aquired at birth .My father was in the military and they tested radiation on him in the pacific. My programming started when they stimulated my brain with electrodes and at the age of 4 days I found myself being fully aware and was able to think and converse on an adult level. They also did this to my children as well. As for myself I thought that all the theatrics was total bullshit They appeared to want to convinvce me that I was a reincarnate of some one from the Illuminati, They had extensive theatrical makeup actors actress and people that wished to anger me enough to hurt them They wanted me to think that I had super powers. But the most uncanny thing occured I saw thru it I dont know exactly how but i did. But it was the fact that I could. No one has been able to explain to me where that knowledge of this came from. I learned later in life that they had coerced my mother and bribed her into selling my soul to them.Later they murdered her after years of torment to her and all of our family. I dont know what the ultimate goal of these things are.Theres so many different programs the do and so many outside contractors whom are employed. One of the big ones were at the Mcmurral Building in Ok city. Mcveigh was a product of this stuff but it WAS not A company job. It was some one else other than that wanted to take out Ok. cities computerbanks and training ccenter. thats were the big one was.I know we have someone else in play here, I know that for years one guy has been the real sick puppy. The shit he does to us and other and fuck he is one major fucking nutcase himself. He is programming people for political assainations. against the very people that fund him. why: I cant find help outside of this to get away from them. Everyone I know is to scared or has been bought off.This really sucks but after they bury yo in the ground and take your soul who can help you/ futureplans: Mass extermination of 97% of the worlds population controlled: All the above and then some. fear: understament I fear for your more. Im already dead. trapped: like I said my parents opened the door to this. enjoy: We are trained not to think about it not to feel anything. But I work with some really sick fucks whom make me puke. Most of us are aquired we dont want this shit no more than you do. questions: Do you know of anyone that can help us? ========================================================================== SUBMISSION TO THE MIND CONTROL PERP SURVEY FORM: July 11, 2003 at 17:23 EDT what: As best I can sum it up in one word, I would say "security". It's fear of those that they cannot stand against. why: I was in the army and used to work at the White House providing communications for the president. I was selected because I had a strong psi factor. The tests are done at the same time as the eye and ear tests before basic training. I did not know about the tests or what I had scored until I was recruited out of the White House. I thought I was going to be part of the CIA psi-ops department. I did not realize that the group I worked for was under the command of a far reaching agency that used the CIA almost as a branch office. That's how I got here, it's a little tougher to explain why I stay. futureplans: Most of the design personel and those in leadership positions are incredibly intelligent. But, like we've seen, as the brain grows in function, the body loses strength. Most of them simply want protection against others who are stronger. What amazes me is they do it by selecting a few "special cases" who are chosen for their already strong evidence of mental powers. They use these few to spy on others around them. From what I have been able to find out, the long term plans are just to keep the strongest minds, bodies, and spirits under their control. There was talk of providing slave soldiers for someone elses war, but I do not know who or when. It was cancelled because the cost of having to replace so many implanties was prohibative. controlled: No, They would have a tough time getting feedback from me. I am a receiver, all of the implant recipients must be both senders and receivers. Also, any form of metal on or in my body would interfere with the ability for me to interface with my host. They even removed the fillings from my teeth and replaced them with fibro-plastic shells. fear: Only if you are not honest about there being no way to trace me. Like I said, they do not monitor us, only certain gifted people can be monitored. trapped: They fooled me into monitoring someone, just to see what it was like. After that I was hooked. I could never leave because I would miss it too much. enjoy: It is hard to explain. I am not a transmitter, I don't control, I just monitor and report what I see. When I am monitoring the feeling is incredible. I only do audio/visual recording so if it causes pain I do not know about it. When I am in a host's brain, looking out their eyes and hearing through their ears, I am seeing and hearing more than I am through my own body. The data is actually interpreted through two brains, the hosts and mine. I can see each grain of sand that they look at, and hear each note of music in a song. Because the host first interprets the data, I even get the benefit of their skills and talents. If I am looking through an artist I can see things in a painting that I miss otherwise. If I am hearing through a musician then I can hear each instrument in an orchestra. They do not monitor me because they know it would kill me if I lost this stimulation. I am addicted. questions: This is a basic overview of what I do. If no one from work questions me about this for a month or so then I will write again. I might even provide an email address from one of the safe servers so we can correspond. ========================================================================== SUBMISSION TO THE MIND CONTROL PERP SURVEY FORM: August 13, 2003 at 3:31 AM EST what: Hosts are chosen from a specific list of people who fit a profile which we need to do our research. A suitable host is typically a person with access to confidential or classified information. Upon passing through certain types of technology based security check-points, the probe can read and transfer to us some types of information. Such information is sometimes used to gain access to the secure location. Different probes serve different purposes. One probe is very sensitive and detects vibrations in the skull caused by speech. The signal can be transmitted and the original speech pattern can be reconstructed. This technology is similar to that of a laser reflected off a window where vibrations caused by speech are detected and reconstructed. There are even other probes which you have speculated the effect of. I will not divulge their functions at this time. Basicamente, lo que buscamos es la informacion. why: I believe in the cause of our organization. That is all you need to know. futureplans: Information which is not accessible to us will continue to be gathered. Those that have already served as hosts (and know it) will not be used again. controlled: My actions are only know to the organization to the extent that is necessary to maintain a secure environment. Security for us is paramount. fear: No. trapped: I was recruited when I was in college because of my beliefs, ideals and skills. While I did not know everything about the organization, I was advised of the seriousness of my future position. I knew about what I was getting into, even though I did not know the details. I do not feel as though I was deceived in any way. enjoy: I do not enjoy all aspects of my work, however, I do believe firmly in the greater cause which encourages me to continue. questions: I may be inclined to answer more questions if they are of the appropriate nature. For this to be possible restate and answer the following request on your website. State the legal name of one "harassment agent" whose identity you have discovered. ========================================================================== SUBMISSION TO THE MIND CONTROL PERP SURVEY FORM: Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 7:20 PM ------------------------------------------------------------ | ** ELEANOR WHITE TALKING ** | | | | This submission appears to be from SOMEONE involved | | in working with aliens and UFOs and their impact on | | humanity. No doubt, some of what we call "mind | | control" is involved in that work, but he is definitely | | not aware of what is going on with us. He says there | | is no harassment, and that's not true of us. And he | | is obviously unaware of the non-electronic street | | theater, breakins, sabotage, rumour campaigns. This | | is an interesting letter, but not relevant to us. | ------------------------------------------------------------ NOTICE: This message may not have been sent by the Sender Name above. Always use cryptographic digital signatures to verify the identity of the sender of any usenet post or e-mail. I was unable to post to your Perpetrator's Questionaire, and wish to share the information I have. Below you will find my answers to your questionaire. Use them as you see fit. Each of the responses have some truth to them, and the differences in tone and content reflect the different philosophical underpinnings and charters of the different sub-organizations to which those responding belong. ---------------------- The program had its beginnings about a week after the Roswell incident in mid July 1947 when the wife of Mac Brazel reported to Colonel William Blanchard that "Mac was acting funny." Air Force medical personnel visited the Brazels and found Mr. Brazel to be quite disoriented. His recollections of the previous 4 years were very sketchy and he actually thought it was the summer of 1944. His last vivid memory was of radio reports of Eisenhower touring the killing fields of the Falaise Pocket. Other than his mental confusion Mr. Brazel was found to be in good general health for a man in his late 40s. There was no follow up, though all the principles in the Roswell incident were covertly tracked at a low priority. Upon Mac Brazel's death in 1963 (I think), clandestine medical examination was made of the body. X-rays revealed a foreign object in the brain. Extraction was made through the back of the eye socket. The object was turned over to ARPA researchers a few months later. This is when I became involved. Close study of the object revealed that it was a transceiver of some sort communicating on what we now call X-band microwave. The device created quite a debate among the scientific staff. It was quite some time before we all reluctantly agreed that it was of alien origin. There was no way that it could have been manufactured with the current human technology. Of course this started a flurry of activity and ARPA resources were diverted to a re-examination of artifacts recovered at Roswell. With the remote and base transceivers in hand we speculated that a mind-control effort was being directed against humans by alien intelligence. What role poor Mac Brazel played over his four "lost" years was never discovered. It may have been as simple as giving the craft a relatively secure place to land. Aliens mucking about in the heads of humans was a disconcerting discovery, and a crash program was started to, first, create a means of detection, and second to create a jamming technology. Detection turned out to be relatively easy as at the time X-band microwave emissions were not common. In the U.S. in 1968, 1023 transceiver "carriers" were detected. World-wide about 4050 were detected, though a few more were suspected. Surprisingly, the oldest transceiver was found in a woman's grave somewhere in Virginia. She had died in 1917 and was 86 at the time of her death. The transceiver was still echoing query signals. about 80% of the units were in living victims, and the early units differed in design from the later units, implying some sort of development project. My most important contribution to the program was in designing a method to jam the alien microwave transmissions. I thought that if we could find a way increase the X-band microwave general background noise we could swamp the low-power alien transmissions. I designed an automatic door opener that operated by X-band microwave. The earliest automatic door openers operated by infra-red detection and the early designs were prone to spurious operation. My design was basically a simple radar system. Beam out X-band microwaves and anything causing a sufficiently strong reflection would operate the door. By turning the reflection detector sensitivity down we could actually use a relatively strong microwave signal. Since the radar doors operated more reliably than the infra-red doors, the technology caught on. Over a short span of years the technology become ubiquitous and flooded the airwaves with spurious X-band microwave emissions effectively jamming the alien microwave mind control signals. Unfortunately, alien development continued and the primary motivation of the 1972 redesignation and reorganization of ARPA to DARPA was to ensure the security of the mind control "arms race" that was ensuing on earth. The good news is that the alien development is much slower than ours, and despite their advanced technology we have managed to counter each of their redesigns, first with "radar ranges", that is microwave ovens, and finally with microwave communications and high-frequency cell phones. Cell phone networks have permenantly shutdown the alien microwave mind control efforts in the civilized world. North America, Europe, and most of Australia all now live in a protective sea of microwave cell phone signals. However, alien development continues and we are worried that they may be working on particle beam communications systems. ------------------------ There is no harrassment. Why would vast resources be committed to simply harassing U.S. citizens? To what end? Believe it or not, we are the good guys. [Eleanor White speaking: NO HARASSMENT? Buddy, you must NOT be part of the group this survey was posted for!] I was recruited out of college in 1962 by ARPA. The work was fascinating and the resources immense. -------------------- I retired in 2001. All the time I was involved with the project it was protective in nature, the motivation was to protect humanity, and in particular Americans from the alien mind control. CONTROLLED?: ------------------------ No. FEAR: -------------------------- Not from the project or government. I have cancer and probably only a few months to live. I might see Christmas - I hope I do. This is why I have decided to share this information. What can they do to me now? Kill me? What with the chemotherapy, that might actually be a kindness. -------------------------- No. I gladly accepted ARPA recruitment and stayed in for nearly 40 years. -------------------------- I did until I retired. We have thrown a big wrench into the alien plans for silent conquest. When their efforts were discovered they were just starting a program of political infiltation. Most of the victims we found were test cases and "convenients" - people who could physically help the aliens operate on earth - travel home is difficult and infrequent. ---------------------- Keep up the web site. Keep your support network going. There are residual effects from implantation related to the general microwave background. Implants may respond to random microwave signals and this may be disconcerting to the victim, but at least you should no longer respond to targeted instructions nor information queries. Hang in there. My heart goes out to those afflicted. You are casualties of an invisible struggle. Without you and your suffering we never would have discovered the alien scheme. You are silent and unsung heros. Know that you are cared for. May God have mercy on us all. ========================================================================== SUBMISSION TO THE MIND CONTROL PERP SURVEY FORM: Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 11:35 AM what: I don't want anything. It's my employers. I can't say their name but they are connected to the British, US, and Nigerian governments. Few in any of these governments know who they are. They contacted me in 1972 when I was finishing my PhD in Electrical Engineering at MIT. My dissertation was going to be on bio-electric manipulation. I was recruited in 1973. I don't want this to sound like the movie "A Beautiful Mind," which I highly recommend, because it's not. why: I find the pay amazing. I have seen the most beautiful, and I mean most beautiful, beaches in the world. Some are not on any map that any normal person can access. Amazing women, too, of all ages. It is true that my private life is not so private, and that I cannot be as free as I'd like: I need to be fairly discreet, but since all of this will become well-known in less than 2 years, according to the plan, it really doesn't matter. I don't really harass people, so I politely must object to the term "harassment agent." We have only faked UFO abductions maybe 20 times over the past 30 years, -- the rest is hysteria. Four of those times we actually sent people out to physically abduct people, and I feel sort of bad saying this, but those were only the really fine looking women and men. Some of our personnel did, in fact, sexually fondle the prisoners, but that was a big scandal and those goons were punished with an impotence drug and a desk job. We've done a few Virgin Mary sightings, and the like, but only a few. The rest were either hysteria or, maybe there really is a God. I am not sure. It's a tough one. I really am sorry if images I've sent, like the one where the patient thinks he is flying on a cross through space with the planets circling below him, have gotten people really upset or pushed them over the edge. I feel really bad about the insect images I sent people. If you don't know what those were, let's just drop it. Anyway, I haven't really done anything bad. I don't think the Organization wants to do evil, really: it's just a combination of greed and the love of scientific experiments. futureplans: Well, I don't know how it's going to go in the long run, but if it succeeds -- and it might not, in which case a lot of countries will go bankrupt because they are relying on the monies that we pay their citizens to develop this utterly massive technology -- here is the outline. The first phase is to leak out that this technology exists and to lionize persons who have invented it because it is quite amazing. Then we get everyone to admit that the natural drive for human beings is acquisitiveness and get them to think that we have been only doing this to enrich ourselves. Then we sell you all to space aliens. Just kidding. There might be space aliens but they don't want this world, the light is all wrong. What we want is to have a stateless world, which we have already begun to suggest through the environmentalists, who are (despite their intelligent concerns about caring for the land) our patsies. Then we want, not complete restriction on thought, but a moderate restriction on violent or antisocial thought. Right now it takes one researcher to observe the thoughts of ten people at a time, and that's not too efficient. What we want to do is to get people to admit that we would all be better off without certain thoughts allowed, such as murder, and then we segue them into believing that it's better to have all their thoughts monitored and nice thoughts put in. It's an end to depression: we can take away negative thoughts and put in pleasant ones. Everyone will get along better. The one and only really unfortunate thing is that beautiful artwork will never be made again, because it requires a state of mind we can't replicate and suggest. But we have already been working on the, shall we say, expectations of the public, in this regard: notice that over the last 30 years artwork has been getting steadily uglier and more bizarre. And who listens to beautiful music anymore? We absolutely do not control the musical and art scene (that would be impossible!) but we are, if I do say so myself, cleverly using them for our own ends. controlled: I don't know. If so, it's with a mechanism far more powerful than the ones I know about. fear: No, because I am absolutely NOT in the highest echelons of our work and have done nothing wrong in the sense of controlled assassinations or anything like that. Mind control is on a low level at this point. All we can do is introduce images. Our favorites are crucifixes (no, I am not religious, nor are the people we work for -- in fact, their irreligiosity sometimes disturbs me, to be honest, as my parents were both good, devout episcopalians, one a Communist and one an arch-conservative, but great people nonetheless, may they rest in peace) and images of obsessive sodomy. These can make people nervous, and can make some people get upset, but we stop before it gets too serious -- and we can easily monitor this. The only thing I know that is dangerous is the names and faces of a few people. None are well-known except for the circle surrounding a particular billionaire with a cruel fascination for currency speculation in Malaysia. His circle's involvement in this technology is so well-known at this point that it's a joke. The other famous group that used to be involved with us is a wealthy organization that has formed churches following the ideas of a particular science fiction writer from the 1970s, and I am NOT talking about Philip K Dick, although I find him interesting too -- although insane. (He had a few correct ideas, though! But was too pessimistic.) That bunch left us in 1999, I think because they thought they had bigger fish to fry, but they claimed it was a policy disagreement. trapped: Absolutely not, unless the girls they send me are holograms! I think I can tell the difference between suggested images and real life really, really well, actually: I think anyone can who is able to stop himself in a dream and force himself to wake up. If you can do that more often than not, you're probably all right. It's something to practice if you think we are controlling you too much. Also -- if we are being harsh -- just ask us to stop. We can see your request on our screen. We almost ALWAYS will stop if you really want us to. We are not sadists. (Actually, one of our guys here is. I wish he would calm down.) However, while I'm on the subject, le [Eleanor White speaking: The original email was truncated here.] enjoy: It is fascinating and slightly pathetic to see exactly what someone is thinking or fantasizing about from 10,000 miles away, and to be able to suggest a thought to them. Once we slip in an image -- like a homunculus, to use my personal favorite -- they think about homunculi all day. Often I won't put in a picture of a homunculus, merely the word. Then it appears in their neural patterns constantly. If you've been thinking about that word over the past twelve years, hi! That's probably me, or a coincidence. Believe it or not I don't hate the human race, or want to control them. I don't have much love for them either. I suppose if you could characterize our mindset, that is it. All of us feel the same way. (That's how they hired me, I think.) There is only one misanthrope among us, and he is really paranoid. A sadist. I think he got molested as a boy. He is also ugly and doesn't shave. The rest of us are doing this partly for money and partly because we simply don't see a historical mission of glory for the human race. Let's keep making money, enjoying resources, and keep everyone feeling happy. What's really so wrong about that? questions: You probably want to know why I am saying all this. And why now. The truth is, it's going to go public really soon, as soon as this Iraq war thing dies down and there's room in the headlines. By the way, it was our operations dept. that suggested to those soldiers that they should torture those prisoners, but, I mean, come on -- isn't a little humiliation better than getting your teeth pulled out? This is a pretty humane mode of torture, n'est-ce pas? Anyhow, believe me, at least if we succeed (and we might not) the world will be a better place, and it will seem better even if it isn't. I feel kind of sorry for any of you who have been hurt or really distressed by what we have done, but it is for a good cause. Not that I'm pretending it's all for the betterment of mankind: I want to line my pockets too. But you will all be calmer if we enact what we want to enact. ========================================================================== SUBMISSION - January, 2005 (raven1.net form) [Can you tell us how you found work as a harassment agent?] il found this job through some friends of mine [Can you tell us why you find this type of work satisfying?] l love this job cause l tend to target people who mistreated our vulnerable children [Eleanor speaking to the person who wrote the above: Are you aware that in the overwhelming majority of cases, you have been lied to, and that virtually all targets are innocent of that charge?] [Can you give us some idea as to how and how much you are paid?] paid r999999 [Unsure about what the questions were for these: i make hash decisionr555 n their life recordshurtng our children do dont beleive in life after death not supposed to say anything ==========================================================================