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Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] {5695} OnStar Tracking Continues Even After
Subscriptioin Cancellation (your every move)
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Wouldn't a 50-Ohm dummy load act as an=20
(inefficient) antenna and potentially allow=20
communications if the vehicle is very near a=20
repeater tower? That's why I suggested shorting the RF/antenna connector.
At 03:02 PM 10/3/2011, you wrote:
>Un-screw the cable that goes to the antenna,=20
>then attach a 50 ohm load to both the antenna=20
>and cable, and it will render it useless as a=20
>tracking device. The optimal thing to do is to=20
>find out where the control module is located and=20
>remove the entire module, or add a kill switch=20
>to the dash that kills the module, but the airbags firing reactivates it.
>
>-jma
>
>
>
>bernieS wrote:
>>What's the best specific technique (besides=20
>>contacting OnStar) for ensuring that a=20
>>vehicle's OnStar radio transceiver cannot send=20
>>data to OnStar? Short-circuit the RF/antenna=20
>>connector? That technique might be the least=20
>>disruptive the vehicle's internal data network.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 02:34 PM 10/3/2011, Roger wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Technology Beck=92s OnStar Concerns Were Right =AD=20
>>>Tracking Continues Even After Cancellation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Two years ago, Media Matters mocked Glenn Beck=20
>>>for his =93conspiracy theory=94 that OnStar had=20
>>>too much power with its ability to track cars,=20
>>>listen to conversations and ultimately turn=20
>>>the car off. Well, it looks like his concerns=20
>>>were accurate, as GM has just made a major announcement about the GPS sy=
stem.
>>>Here=92s the video from Media Matters in 2009:
>>><http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/09/onstar-tracks-you/>Wired=20
>>>now reports that even if you cancel your=20
>>>OnStar service, you are still being tracked:
>>>OnStar began e-mailing customers Monday about=20
>>>its update to the privacy policy, which grants=20
>>>OnStar the right to sell that GPS-derived data in an anonymized format.
>>>Adam Denison, a spokesman for the General=20
>>>Motors subsidiary, said OnStar does not=20
>>>currently sell customer data, but it reserves=20
>>>that right. He said both the new and old=20
>>>privacy policies allow OnStar to chronicle a=20
>>>vehicle=92s every movement and its speed, though=20
>>>it=92s not clear where that=92s stated in the old policy.
>>>=93What=92s changed [is that if] you want to=20
>>>cancel your OnStar service, we are going to=20
>>>maintain a two-way connection to your vehicle=20
>>>unless the customer says otherwise,=94 Denison said in a telephone inter=
view.
>>>The connection will continue, he said, to make=20
>>>it =93easier to re-enroll=94 in the program, which=20
>>>charges plans from $19 to $29 monthly for help with navigation and emerg=
encies.
>>>
>>><http://www.theblaze.com/stories/onstar-announces-tracking-continues-eve=
n-after-cancellation/snapz-pro-xscreensnapz065-2/>=20
>>>
>>>[]
>>>
>>>Continuing to collect information, Denison=20
>>>said, makes it easier OnStar to provide=20
>>>information for organizations that request it:
>>>=93We hear from organizations periodically=20
>>>requesting our information,=94 he said.
>>>He said an example of how the data might be=20
>>>used would be for the Michigan Department of=20
>>>Transportation =93to get a feel for traffic=20
>>>usage on a specific section of freeway.=94 The=20
>>>policy also allows the data to be used for=20
>>>marketing purposes by OnStar and vehicle manufacturers.
>>>Collecting location and speed data via GPS=20
>>>might also create a treasure trove of data=20
>>>that could be used in criminal and civil=20
>>>cases. One could also imagine an eager police=20
>>>chief acquiring the data to issue speeding tickets en masse.
>>>
>>>Wired notes that blogger and forensic=20
>>>scientist=20
>>><http://www.zdziarski.com/blog/>Jonathan=20
>>>Zdziarski, who wrote about OnStar =93spying on=20
>>>customers=94 GPS location for profit=94 said he=20
>>>was canceling his service and making sure he=20
>>>was fully disconnected. He wrote, =93When will=20
>>>our congress pass legislation that stops the=20
>>>American people=92s privacy from being raped by=20
>>>large data warehousing interests? Companies=20
>>>like OnStar, Google, Apple, and the other=20
>>>large abusive data warehousing companies desperately need to be investig=
ated.=94
>>
>
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>"Leonardo da Vinci of Bug Sweeps and Spy Hunting"
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